~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04655 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 18:52:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 18:55:08 -0500 From: Lane Trippe Subject: usna-net: Re: Home stretch - looking for advise To: USNA Net boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D3_01BDBD7D.E7672460" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01BDBD7D.E7672460 charset="iso-8859-1" Anybody hear news/requests that may help us Plebe parents prepare for = the imminent PPW? Any upperclassmen parents have = tips/ideas/recommendations about (a) PPW, (b) visiting the Yard, (c) = visiting Annapolis? PLEASE SHARE! Just had call # 3 - like rain on a parched field - it was well within an = hour of the scheduled time. I'd say they're doing great! Gus said he's = been assigned his sponsor...a Marine major who LIVES ON THE YARD. (That = doesn't seem quite fair...or to the point, but Gus says he wants to try = it out.) He's hoarse...but they must all be hoarse from screaming = rates, yes? Can't wait for Friday 1215!!! I'm proud to bursting of our = midshipmen...looking forward to meeting Gus's buddies, classmates, = brigade members...heck, everybody up there. How extraordinary to be = surrounded by so much talent, dedication, good spirit and discipline! Lane - K.A. Gus HAIK 02 11/F. ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01BDBD7D.E7672460 charset="iso-8859-1"

Anybody hear news/requests that = may help us=20 Plebe parents prepare for the imminent PPW? Any upperclassmen = parents have=20 tips/ideas/recommendations about (a) PPW, (b) visiting the Yard, (c) = visiting=20 Annapolis? PLEASE SHARE!

Just had call # 3 - like rain = on a parched=20 field - it was well within an hour of the scheduled time. I'd say = they're=20 doing great! Gus said he's been assigned his sponsor...a Marine = major who=20 LIVES ON THE YARD. (That doesn't seem quite fair...or to the = point, but=20 Gus says he wants to try it out.) He's hoarse...but they must all = be=20 hoarse from screaming rates, yes?

Can't wait for Friday = 1215!!! I'm=20 proud to bursting of our midshipmen...looking forward to meeting Gus's = buddies,=20 classmates, brigade members...heck, everybody up there. How = extraordinary=20 to be surrounded by so much talent, dedication, good spirit and=20 discipline!

Lane - K.A. Gus HAIK 02=20 11/F.

------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01BDBD7D.E7672460-- *** USNA-NET post by: TRIPPE Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05953 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 20:24:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 18:26:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Torres To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Midshippers Hello everyone! we had a wonderful call from our son, Andrew. Today was his 18th birthday and he has a touch of the dreaded plebe hack. The packages my friends and I sent had not yet arrived, so I called Dolly at Midshippers -- it must have been 3:30 p.m. Eastern time and I left a voice mail message, asking for some cupcakes and gatorade powder to be delivered, and noting that it was probably too late ofr today...tomorrow would be fine. But guess what! I just got e-mail from midshippers that the package was delivered a few hours ago! Dolly is totally swell!!! (Where's Dan when we need him? 6 more days to go!!!!!) Anita *** USNA-NET post by: TORRES Leonard&Anita 02 TORRES Andrew ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA11102 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 22:23:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 23:26:43 -0400 From: Marilyn Szwarc To: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: The Call I agree with the sentiments expresed today -- it is great to hear from your child -- especially when they seem to be doing so well! Things can be tough but not impossible -- I can't help but wonder if the detailers have been trained especially well -- perhaps they have been told to be tough but don't be, shall we say, jerks... My daughter is a training cadet at the Air Force Academy so I get to hear the "other side" -- she is sensitive to the problems these kids deal with -- she, in fact, is dealing with a cadet whose friend back home died this past week -- she told me that all she has done is to be a good listener. In my mind, this is a result of the good training that the trainers experienced (not to say that my daughter is a pretty great kid -- but I'm somewhat biased) I really believe that our kids are doing well because of the kids that are training them! I am anxiously awaiting Parents' Weekend -- my son told me that we would be shopping for ....TUPPERWARE -- help me, I'm in some sort of alternate universe! Marilyn Szwarc *** USNA-NET post by: SZWARC Douglas 02 SZWARC Marilyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA11319 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 22:46:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dwight Fanno" To: "usna-net" Subject: usna-net: the call/tupperware Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 20:44:09 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Hi there, We also had a positive call from our son Peter (02) this morning. He has commented how the 2nd set detailers seem more professional, and say unusual things like "good job!" once in a while. They are being treated with a little more respect, he says. Still tough, but he feels like there is more of a purpose. Marilyn asked about Tupperware: It is sold by distributors, like Avon, so you need to find a representative. I buy Rubbermaid containers sold most places (large grocery stores,etc.). Are many of you Plebe parents eating in King Hall on friday?. Our son doen't want to. Just wondering if that was common. Hardly wait till PPW. Patti Fanno *** USNA-NET post by: FANNO Peter 02 FANNO Patti ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11423 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 23:17:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: dcarter@pop1.trib.com Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 22:19:01 -0600 To: From: Dan Carter Subject: usna-net: the call/tupperware Just a Reminder . . . There are only 5 days remaining until Parent's Weekend! we went to the friday night dinner in king hall with the mids. would recommend it, especially if you have never eaten there. it truly is marvelous to see and perhaps understand a bit about how things go on the yard. several mice live in bancroft hall along with the mids, therefore tupperware is handy to store the care packages. don't be surprised if you make a stop at the super to purchase some chocolate bars, gatprade, etc. take time to thank the detailers when you meet them. it has been hard work but satisfying work for them taking care of the plebes. ==================== carpe dium Dan http://w3.trib.com/~dcarter/alumni.html *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11500 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 23:34:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 23:36:41 -0500 From: Lane Trippe Subject: usna-net: Re: Tupperware & then some To: USNA Net boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01BDBDA5.3C920D20" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BDBDA5.3C920D20 charset="iso-8859-1" I want to remind you all that there's more to the food = packaging/anti-rodent universe than Tupperware and Rubbermaid. (By the = way, I believe Rubbermaid at your local Wal-Mart, hardware store, = drugstore chain, is less expensive than Tupperware.) Consider those = Zipper (NOT 'Ziploc') bags....in the freezer weight -- absolutely = impervious to air/vermin/insects. With Gus' last care package, I sent = him a 1/2-box full of these and apparently they've come in VERY useful.=20 Any more hints from Heloise et al.? Lane. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BDBDA5.3C920D20 charset="iso-8859-1"

I want to remind you all that = there's=20 more to the food packaging/anti-rodent universe than Tupperware and=20 Rubbermaid. (By the way, I believe Rubbermaid at your local = Wal-Mart,=20 hardware store, drugstore chain, is less expensive than = Tupperware.) =20 Consider those Zipper (NOT 'Ziploc') bags....in the freezer weight -- = absolutely=20 impervious to air/vermin/insects. With Gus' last care package, I = sent him=20 a 1/2-box full of these and apparently they've come in VERY=20 useful.

Any more hints from Heloise = et=20 al.?

Lane.

------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BDBDA5.3C920D20-- *** USNA-NET post by: TRIPPE Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11608 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 00:16:04 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 01:18:20 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: site for parent's weekend and beyond (midshippers) go to www.navy.nadn.mil/4thReg/local check out parent's week end for schedule and tips.. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18010 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 06:48:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 06:51:23 -0500 From: Lane Trippe Subject: Re: usna-net: site for parent's weekend To: USNA Net , Dolly Pantelides X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Dolly (who is, as Anita suggests, a wonderful person and a great resource...), Your link ... www.navy.nadn.mil/4thReg/local ... doesn't work for me. Is this the same as the 4th Reg./Class of 2002 page at: http://www.nadn.navy.mil/4thReg/homepage.html ?? Or is there another great info source out there....? Thank you. Lane Trippe (Midn 4/C K.A. Gus HAIK 02/11) *** USNA-NET post by: TRIPPE Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21690 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 08:19:25 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: dcarter@pop1.trib.com In-Reply-To: <00d601bdbda7$d0f44760$ca3c37a6@lane> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 07:21:23 -0600 To: From: Dan Carter Subject: Re: usna-net: Re: Home stretch - looking for advise plan on spending as much time as you have on the yard prior to liberty, you'll enjoy it. you can watch am and noon formation thurs if you are there. value the liberty time with your mids, it will go quickly. typically pictures are taken of mids right after fri liberty begins, but very few take advantage of it. these picts are for local newspapers. the plebes are tired of lines, etc. and are ready to go eat a good meal and to ressssssssssst. on friday night it is not uncommon for the yard to be thriving of people at midnight, the mids willll not be late reporting back, so they get back early and then you can walk around and bs each other. Just a Reminder . . . There are only 4 days remaining until Parent's Weekend! ==================== Carpae Dium Dan http://w3.trib.com/~dcarter/alumni.html *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29556 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 13:36:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 11:37:37 -0700 From: Stew Wilson To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: KING HALL DINNER Hi Network --- Has anyone else noticed the differences in the prices quoted for the dinner at King Hall? In the PPW Handbook sent out a couple of weeks ago it was $7.50, in the packet received this week it was $12.00, and now I read Dan's message that it is $10.00. Question of the day--which is correct? I'm still hoping to convince our son (Todd Wilson, O-27) to go, but ....... We are glad just to be going as we didn't decide until last Sunday to do it. Fortunately there were still good prices to be found. When you make air reservations, be sure to check Cheap Tickets, Inc. You'll be amazed at what they can do. See you there! Stew & Kay Wilson GO NAVY--BEAT ARMY!! *** USNA-NET post by: WILSON Todd 02 WILSON Stew&Kay ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02377 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 15:41:37 -0500 (CDT) From: "Janet Ferrara" To: Subject: usna-net: Plebe Parent Weekend Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 13:45:38 -0700 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01BDBE1B.D54F9980" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Info: VM Online This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BDBE1B.D54F9980 charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, All! I have seen on the Usenet that a lot of the plebes think the 2nd set detailers are more professional. The first set were supposed to be harder and the 2nd set were supposed to be of a different "mind set" SO, = it appears to be working! I'm glad, that the plebes noticed a difference! Dan Carter is right! Please try to go to King Hall for the dinner, = (whatever it costs!), it will be one of the best experiences you'll have = at the Academy, and take your cameras! You'll have a chance to meet many = of their friends this way, and maybe some of their wonderful = upperclassmen that you have been hearing so much about. The plebes all need lots of deodorant, hand soap, (maybe some foot powder for athletes foot), lots of shoe box sized plastic containers, = (they ask for Tupperware, but Rubbermaid is just as good and easier to obtain = on short notice) Stick Stain removers, powdered drink mixes, (but not tea, = as it is a diuretic), Power bars, granola bars, shoe polish, white and = black (eventually) maybe some brasso (if allowed, verify this is okay = with your son), rags for polishing their brass and shoes. If you are going out for a steak dinner, go to the "Outback Restaurant" = I think it is in the city of Parole, about 20 minutes from Annapolis, all = the MIDS love the food there! (me, too) The time will go by so fast-zip- then it will be time for him or her to = go back.=20 I wanted to prepare you for something that might happen on Sunday night. = As a joke, (also tradition) the upperclassmen may be playing Christmas Carols = from their rooms, (very loudly) just to remind the plebes that the next time they see = their families will be Christmas, (which is not true, because they do get 4 = days off for Thanksgiving. (but there is no Thanksgiving music is there?) My husband, Tom, my daughter Christine (20 now) Mike and I were standing by = the Rotunda outside on the top level (near Brancroft) when the music = started. I have a great picture of Mike standing with his hands on his hips = laughing (the Chapel in the background) We could see several MIDS hanging out of their windows and shouting things in good fun. I got a little depressed at that moment, but Mike thought it was hilarious!! I have this picture on my desk at work, because it reminds me to "take all of this with a grain of salt" and laugh at it, as my own son did!=20 Parents Club members bring your name badges from your clubs with you and = wear them, you'll run into people from your state, guaranteed! I know = how surprised I was to see so many people from Calif. (my state) Look for Mike Ferrara, Company 15, say hello, he's the really tall one = (6'3") in white (haha). Note to Marilyn SZWARC: Talk about alternate universes! You'll also get = to see the plebes rooms and see that they can really make a bed (rack!), = neat and trim! Another revelation! Wishing I could be with all of you for the fun!=20 Janet Ferrara (Mike Ferrara, Company 15, 2nd set Detailer) Class of = 2000 ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BDBE1B.D54F9980 charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi, All!
I have seen on the Usenet that a lot of the = plebes think=20 the 2nd
set detailers are more professional. The first set were = supposed to be
harder and the 2nd set were supposed to be of a = different=20 "mind set" SO, it
appears to be working! I'm glad, that the = plebes=20 noticed a difference!

Dan Carter is right! Please try to go to King Hall = for the=20 dinner, (whatever it costs!), it will be one of the best experiences = you'll have=20 at the Academy, and take your cameras! You'll have a chance to meet many = of=20 their friends this way, and maybe some of their wonderful upperclassmen = that you=20 have been hearing so much about.

The plebes all need lots of deodorant, hand soap, (maybe some=20 foot
powder for athletes foot), lots of shoe box sized plastic = containers,=20 (they
ask for Tupperware, but Rubbermaid is just as good and easier = to obtain=20 on
short notice) Stick Stain removers, powdered drink mixes, (but not = tea, as=20 it is a diuretic), Power bars, granola bars, shoe polish, white and = black=20 (eventually) maybe some brasso (if allowed, verify this is okay with = your son),=20 rags for polishing their brass and shoes.

If you are going out for a steak dinner, go to the = "Outback=20 Restaurant" I
think it is in the city of Parole, about 20 = minutes from=20 Annapolis, all the
MIDS love the food there! (me, too)

The time will go by so fast-zip- then it will be time for him or = her =20 to go back.

I wanted to prepare you for something that might happen on = Sunday=20 night. As a
joke, (also tradition) the upperclassmen may be playing = Christmas=20 Carols from their rooms,
(very loudly) just to remind the plebes that = the=20 next time they see their
families will be Christmas, (which is not = true,=20 because they do get 4 days
off for Thanksgiving. (but there is no=20 Thanksgiving music is there?) My
husband, Tom, my daughter = Christine=20 (20 now) Mike and I were standing by the
Rotunda outside on the top = level=20 (near Brancroft) when the music started. I
have a great picture of = Mike=20 standing with his hands on his hips laughing
(the Chapel in the = background)=20 We could see several MIDS hanging out of
their windows and shouting = things in=20 good fun. I got a little depressed
at that moment, but Mike = thought it=20 was hilarious!! I have this picture
on my desk at work, because = it=20 reminds me to "take all of this with a
grain of salt" and = laugh at=20 it, as my own son did!

Parents Club members bring your name badges from your clubs with = you and=20 wear them, you'll run into people from your state, guaranteed! I know = how=20 surprised I was to see so many people from Calif. (my state)

Look for Mike Ferrara, Company = 15, say=20 hello, he's the really tall one (6'3") in white=20 (haha).

Note to Marilyn SZWARC: Talk = about=20 alternate universes! You'll also get to see the plebes rooms and see = that they=20 can really make a bed (rack!), neat and trim! Another=20 revelation!

Wishing I could be with all of you for the fun!

Janet Ferrara (Mike Ferrara, Company 15, 2nd set = Detailer) Class=20 of 2000

------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BDBE1B.D54F9980-- *** USNA-NET post by: FERRARA Tom&Janet 00 FERRARA Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02590 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 16:22:59 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 17:25:13 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Class of 2002 doing great! Tango Co. update As of today, there are 81 midn of the 1231 inductees who have decided to pursue another career. There were about 89 at this time last year in a class of 1175. Training schedule has Midn in companies A-H (1-15 plts) going to an Oriole baseball game on Tuesday night at 7:30 pm and companies H-P (16-30 plts) going on Wednesday for the 3:00 game. You might catch a glimpse of on TV? Monday night is also character development speaker night...Commandant of USMC and Thursday night is the Chief of Naval Operations. Both of the gentleman are Academy Grads and will not only talk about character but pride and honor of being an Alumnus. GO NAVY - BEAT ARMY! SIR ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02639 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 16:32:50 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: dcarter@pop1.trib.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 15:34:49 -0600 To: From: Dan Carter if you can't tell, we parents of the detailers would like to be there with you this week. it was memorable and enjoyable. As Janet says, (Mike Ferrara, Company 15, 2nd set Detailer) Class of 2000, look for the second set detailers and wish them well. They to have a long journey ahead. (Chris Carter, Company 20, 2nd set Detailer) ==================== Carpae Dium Dan http://w3.trib.com/~dcarter/alumni.html *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05617 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 19:07:32 -0500 (CDT) From: PBombach@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:07:50 EDT To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Dinner in King Hall Just to add positive emphasis to doing dinner in King Hall. Your plebe has seen enough of King Hall, but this atmosphere is totally different. If nothing else, tell them to humor you and the rest of the weekend is theirs. It was a most enjoyable evening. The food was good and as mentioned, it was a great time to meet roommates and their parents. The year that we went, there were only 2 mids and 4 parents at our table for 12. We had double the food and boy did our plebes enjoy it. Also, we had no detailers in sight. This is one of the few times to get to do dinner like this. Until you see the size of King Hall from a table perspective, it's hard to imagine. Also, our plebes felt very 'grown up' being able to tell us where to sit, what they do with their covers etc. This was probably the only time in those 6 weeks that THEY were in control--not their parents, not their detailers. Are there any parents of Lucky 13's out there? That's G 13 until you get the hang of it this coming weekend. Have a great time. *** USNA-NET post by: BOMBACH Pam 99 BOMBACH Brent ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12239 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 21:10:36 -0500 (CDT) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:11:02 -0400 Subject: usna-net: phone check in ... X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5-6,12-13,15-16,19-20,23-24,26-27,31-32,35-36,39-42,44-47 From: iudoc@juno.com (james e wilson) We heard from our son (Jacob, 2002, H-15) around 1630 on Sunday. The schedule showed him calling at 1400 on Saturday. Honestly, after the hour and a half passed, we just assumed something was up and that he would either get a hold of us, or we'd see him next Friday. From his perspective, he didn't even know there was a schedule, so he had no sense of late/early. All is well .... sprained ankle healed up, looking forward to company basketball championship one evening this week where the whole regiment comes to cheer (this would be far more than ever showed for his high school games!), and the motivational speakers, and the Orioles trip this week. He's Hotel company, so it's not real clear how they will divide up for the ball game; evidently not as neatly as just by 15/16 platoons. Got his marksman ribbons, but missed on sharpshooter .... ("not bad for a kid who's parents wouldn't even let me make my legos into weapons!") Got his sponsor family today ... a couple from Arnold (?) who have no kids; he will be there only mid. He has made a friend in the brigade who is from Anapolis, and thinks that will be nice for him as well. Thanks for the zip lock bag tip. We had been sending our goodies in the rubbermaid containers, packed in a shoe box. It has worked real well, and he has appreciated it. He says ...."I've got so much to tell you ..." and we will be so happy to listen. How will he have changed? It's time for us to be coming to grips with that ... because this experience must surely change him ... confidence, pride, commitment. We are so proud of all these young men and women .... plebes and detailers!! We will arrive at USNA mid thursday afternoon (can't get sports/work schedules to free us earlier) .. and plan to be out there for PEP early. Thank you so much, especially you parents of upper mids. Your encouragement and sharing has gotten us off on the right foot. We hope to pass it on one day! The USNA-NET has been wonderful ... and we hope it grows! Joyous travels, plebe parents. Hope to see some of you there. We'll be wearing our Ohio Parent's Club Badges ..... Jim and Ann Wilson (Jacob, 02, H-15) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] *** USNA-NET post by: WILSON Jacob 02 WILSON Jim ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27778 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:54:10 -0500 (CDT) From: PBombach@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:52:42 EDT To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Plebe parents who live apart Dear parents, Some of you couldn't understand why you weren't getting mailings regarding your plebes. If you have parents living separately, the Academy database can only accommodate one primary parent. Don't view this as a 'slight'. I work in an admissions office of a private school, and my database is very limiting also (it's that computer software thing). One of our plebe parents has been persistent in getting to the bottom of the problem. The following is what she found out. (If you know of any of these situations going on right now and you have a parents club, please contact a club officer and clue them in). Re: dealing with plebes who have parents living apart -- both of whom are actively involved in parenting -- The USNA midshipmen database is structured only for one primary parent address (holds a designated primary parent or both parents living together...but only one address/number). Until the database format can be modified (quite an undertaking), Martha Blair has been dealing with this by having the plebes fill out a "2d parent address" form during I-Day. HOWEVER, this past I-Day, apparently due to Martha's illness and absence, this was not done. SO.... all plebes with parents living apart are in the same boat: no mailings from USNA to one of the two parents. Martha said that between now and about end-September, she will contact company officers to have plebes fill out these forms, make additions to her lists (as authorized by plebes) and send a copy to Babs Miller for her own database. As you'll note, the plebes must give permission for the duplicate mailings. Another item that is only slightly related is that the plebes have to sign forms as to how they want their grades handled. As parents, we're used to receiving those high school grades. Well most of these kids are now over the legal age of 18. If they don't fill out the forms correctly, you will not see their grades. This can create all kinds of problems. One scenario was that a mid was being separated due to academics and his family didn't have any idea. The plebes may have already signed the forms on I-Day, but they can always change it. You might want to actually discuss this grade reporting issue with your plebe this parents weekend and explain why your being informed is important. This is not like a 'regular' college where they can flunk out and return the next semester. Also as parents, you can be supportive in keeping them aimed in the right direction, encouraging extra instruction (EI) etc. have a good time..... *** USNA-NET post by: BOMBACH Pam 99 BOMBACH Brent ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27809 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:54:46 -0500 (CDT) From: PBombach@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:54:52 EDT To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Room at the Loew's Annapolis All points bulletin..... A central Ohio parent has an extra room at the Loew's that they won't need this weekend. Anyone interested, please call Tina Jacobson 614-459-7089. The room is $100 per night. I don't know which nights she has the room. *** USNA-NET post by: BOMBACH Pam 99 BOMBACH Brent ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03349 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 22:33:25 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 23:35:35 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: requests for D.C. travel If you have the opportunity to talk to your Mids and you are planning or think that you might what to travel to Washing, D.C., then they must put in a request "chit" to travel outside of the 23 mile limit for the duration of Parents' Weekend. Also make sure that you allow yourselves enough time to return from liberty..Have seen it and been stuck in traffic so many times with 900 mids and their parents all trying to return as close as possible to midnight. Allow yourself at least 45 min to avoid this panic.. GO-NAVY!!!BEAT army...'71-'72. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03789 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 23:12:29 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 00:14:25 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free) To: Lane Trippe CC: USNA Net , PBombach@aol.com Subject: Re: usna-net: Brigade organization References: <002a01bdbbd2$6d64f0e0$5a3837a6@lane> Although "Brief Points" is an OK book (too many generalizations and inaccurate data), would suggest the "CANDIDATES & PARENTS GUIDEBOOK". Will get send you specifics tomorrow. Not sure of Title and author. Lane Trippe wrote: > Thanks for the detailed explanation! Look forward to getting 'Brief Points' > and to seeing the system in person over PPW! Lane. > > *** USNA-NET post by: TRIPPE Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane > > _________________________________________________________________ > Need someone for a job? Advertise help ads free in Jobbank. > http://www.west-point.org/service/jobbank/ > > WP-ORG Virtual Web Services to get personal "www.your-domain.com" > http://www.west-point.org/service/virtual/ > > WP-ORG, PO Box 609, Moneta, VA 24121 > Homepage: http://www.West-Point.Org > Mission: http://www.west-point.org/about.html ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04312 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 23:59:17 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 01:01:24 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: [Fwd: Class 2002 update] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F6CCA2D1FA87551AAE381940 fyi --------------F6CCA2D1FA87551AAE381940 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 00:38:15 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free) To: JDBldrInc@aol.com, usan-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: Class 2002 update References: <12515b74.35c4ee07@aol.com> The Brigade of Midn used to be at 4,500 midn. Has since been mandated by law (also applies to other services academies) to a year end strength of 4,000 beginning the first day of academic classes.. With 4,500 mids, there were also 36 companies compared to 30 now. Company 35-36 were S Co. (Sierra Co). The next letter in the alphabet was T (tango) and so you were assigned to Tango Company if you decided that USNA was not for you. That lingo has stayed! JDBldrInc@aol.com wrote: > Hello! > Thanks so much for your post. We really appreciated the info, and look > forward to using your service soon, too. We've heard about the great things > you do! We really have been wondering how many have left this summer. Glad > our plebe wasn't among them. He actually seems to be content with his choice. > > The memo started out with "Tango Co. update". I hope this isn't a stupid > question, but you're probably used to them from us plebe parents by now. > Anyway, what is Tango Co.? > > Sam > Troy 02 --------------F6CCA2D1FA87551AAE381940-- ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14597 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 08:13:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 08:15:48 -0500 From: Lane Trippe Subject: usna-net: Tango Terminology To: Dolly Pantelides , USNA Net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 O.K... Tango Co. That's a (welcome) clear-cut, rational, historically grounded etiology for the phrase. Or... (in the mind of a tortured plebe parent, so-o close to PPW) Let's see...Tango Co. ... context of separation from NA ... 'it takes 2 to tango' ... we know the Academy's 110% supporting each of these kids ... so ... ergo, these must be mids who have decided they don't want to 'tango'. Q.E.D. *** USNA-NET post by: HALK Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16210 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 10:04:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Emily Ferguson" Organization: Evangelical Christian School To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 10:08:58 +0700 Subject: usna-net: Many thanks X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Emily Ferguson" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal I would like to thank everyone for the great information that this serve has provided to our family. It has been very encouraging to myself and my husband. We hope to see or meet some of you at parent's weekend. Does anyone know if the midshipman will be allowed to use the phones at the ballgames? Are the midshipman allowed to have fans now? Do they need them? Do they have their school schedules yet? And last but not least are we the only ones who have not heard from a sponsor family yet? Many thanks, Emily *** USNA-NET post by: FERGUSON J.W. 02 FERGUSON Bill&Emily ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16305 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 10:21:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 10:24:06 -0500 From: Lane Trippe Subject: Re: usna-net: Sponsor vacuum To: Emily Ferguson , USNA Net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 No...you are certainly NOT the only plebe family not to hear from your mid's sponsor. Moi, aussi. I am reassured, however, by Gus's telling us in last phone call that he has a sponsor -- Marine Major who lives on the Yard. I believe we will be afforded an opportunity to connect with sponsors/sponsor families at PPW. (If not, I will respectfully go a-looking...) Note--to Pam Bombach--this may be another lapse related to the 'one-parent address problem' in the database... Please check with sponsors/Babs Miller to learn if THEY, too, get their parent info only from (the temporarily crimped) USNA database. See you on and about the Yard...although I think, at the outset, we will have eyes only for our mids! Lane. *** USNA-NET post by: HALK Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22698 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:29:45 -0500 (CDT) From: PBombach@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 15:26:46 EDT To: emily@ecseagles.com Cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Many thanks Emily, We did not hear from our son's sponsor family until the first semester was almost over. In fact it might not have been until the spring. Our son however was out to their house quite a few times. He told me about the family and what they had provided to him. (His sponsor family has 3 children of their own, 7,15,17, and the dad is a Navy Captain, USNA '74). As the plebe mom, I had wanted to get the sponsor thing going for him during that plebe summer, but I restrained myself and forced myself to realize that he had to make this connection-not me--these were to be his family. This was now his 'life', not mom arranging things for him. Since the beginning, the sponsor family has been a wonderful constant in my mid's life. I sent them a basket at Christmas that plebe year thanking them for caring so much for our son. After Herndon in the spring, we took them to dinner near their home in Severna Park. Since then we are in regular communication by email. Our mid has relied on his sponsor family for rest, food, transportation, shelter, storage, logistical support, family interactions and wonderful insights into the academy and the military in general. They have been another unexpected bonus of the USNA experience. Remind your plebe to make the contact, they will receive the sponsor names and phone number. Also, you might encourage them to get the call made, but you can't do it for them. The mid has to call the sponsor because the sponsor can't call in and reach a plebe. >>my comments for the day<< *** USNA-NET post by: BOMBACH Pam 99 BOMBACH Brent ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02253 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 18:05:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Kris Hefner To: "'usna-net@navy-usna.org'" Subject: usna-net: Ballgame Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 19:09:29 -0400 Hi all! I am listening to the Orioles game from their website = http://www.theorioles.org We are staying close to the phone in hopes = they get to call. Kris has promised that he will if at all possible.=20 We will be staying at the Courtyard Marriott and will arrive sometime on = Thursday evening. We plan to be on the yard by 5:00 am. Kris has made = reservations for us to have dinner at King Hall on Friday night. I know = there are alot of activities planned throughout the weekend but I'm not = sure if he will want to do anything but sleep, eat pizza, and watch = movies!!! We are prepared to do whatever he wants. I just want to be sure I am at the Naval Academy Store in time to get a = Class of 2002 totebag! I bought the t-shirts on I day but missed the = hats. I was told that the totebags would be available this weekend. =20 Is anyone planning to purchase a printer at the Mid store? I'd like to = know what is available since I may be able to purchase a better one at a = better price. Does anyone know what the specs are on the laptops that = they will be issued? I'd appreciate any help. see you this weekend Deb Hefner =20 *** USNA-NET post by: HEFNER John&Deb 02 HEFNER Kristopher ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22436 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 22:47:17 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 23:48:59 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free) To: DolfnJudy@aol.com, "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: usna-net: [Fwd: Class 2002 update] References: <9b4ab139.35c769a6@aol.com> Hi Dolf.. Reverse your tables below...1-2 = A co. (Skip the letter J) Next, understand that the alphabetic names for companies are only used during the summer transition. They do not exist after plebe summer. Their platoons numbers become their actual company numbers during the academic year. Not quite sure, will research, but I believe , that the reason there is also no "J" Co. was in honor of that Company being wiped out in some battle. Anyway, when the brigade was at 4,500 there were 36 companies during the academic year. Now, the brigade size is at 4,000 and 30 companies. So, when there were 36 companies (1-2= Alpha Co. 3-4= Bravo etc.) 35-36 = Sierra Co. The drop out company then became Tango Co. and the term still exists today even though the summer companies now only go up to Papa Co (29-30) Brigade is also made up of two regiments broken down into 6 Battalions of 5 co's each for a total of 30 co's. First Regiment is (Port- Co's 1-15 ) and Second Regiment is( Starboard Co's16-30 ). 1st Battalion is co's 1-5; 2nd Battalion is co's 6-10 etc. Probably more than you want know but that's how it works. Hope this helps. DolfnJudy@aol.com wrote: > Dolly, > > << Company 35-36 were S Co. (Sierra Co). >> > > Thanks for the informative message. I guess I don't understand something. > There are 26 letters in the alphabet. Therefore, there must be two companies > per letter. I'd assume that it breaks out as follows: > > 1- a-b > 2- c-d > 3- e-f > 4- g-h > 5- i-j > 6- k-l > 7- m-n > 8- o-p > 9- q-r > 10- s-t > > That still doesn't do it. Therefore I know that I'm confused. I'd like to > present a clear FAQ on this subject. However, I can't write one if I don't > understand it. Can you explain it again to me so I can write an FAQ which > clearly explains this "useful" bit of information? ! > > Thanks again for your help with this and the many other questions on USNA-NET! > (:>) > > Best regards, > > Dolf ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA22523 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 23:09:39 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 00:10:07 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free) To: Emily Ferguson CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Many thanks References: <199808041450.JAA11095@argon.west-point.org> Officially, Plebes are not allowed to use phones at the ball game.. If they do and are caught, would result in disciplinary action. All the Midn were issued small fans. Yes, they do help! As far as courses go, the Midn have been notified of placement/validation of courses if any but actual schedules will not be done until computer issue (Aug 13-14?) and the move academic year room assignments. All of the Midn have been assigned sponsors and have been given their numbers to call and introduce themselves. Emily Ferguson wrote: > I would like to thank everyone for the great information that this > serve has provided to our family. It has been very encouraging to > myself and my husband. We hope to see or meet some of you at parent's > weekend. Does anyone know if the midshipman will be allowed to use > the phones at the ballgames? Are the midshipman allowed to have fans > now? Do they need them? Do they have their school schedules yet? And > last but not least are we the only ones who have not heard from a > sponsor family yet? Many thanks, Emily > > *** USNA-NET post by: FERGUSON J.W. 02 FERGUSON Bill&Emily > > _________________________________________________________________ > WP-ORG will be down on Wednesday, 5 Aug, from 5pm to 9pm CST > for T1-circuit maintenance. > > WP-ORG, PO Box 609, Moneta, VA 24121 > Homepage: http://www.West-Point.Org > Mission: http://www.west-point.org/about.html ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27667 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 23:05:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 00:09:33 -0400 From: Marilyn Szwarc To: Famnet , "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: Car Transport To all of you who have been waiting with baited breath, our car made it to our daughter safe and sound. She is thrilled to be mobile and I am thrilled that I didn't have to spend 3 days on the road! If anyone wants information about the agency that we used, just ask. We have no financial interest in the company -- we just had a good experience with it. One car down in Pennsylvania. Marilyn Szwarc Meghan USAFA CS15 2000 Doug USNA soon to be 2nd Company 2002 *** USNA-NET post by: SZWARC Douglas 02 SZWARC Marilyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12281 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:56:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:59:56 -0400 From: Marilyn Szwarc To: Famnet CC: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: Car Transport I've had many requests for the service that I used. It is called Auto Driveaway. It is a national company with local offices -- there is one in the Pittsburgh area. I paid $325 to have the car driven from my home to C-Springs -- they met my daughter at her sponsor's home. They will also transport by truck but it was around $900. I was very satisfied with the service -- it arrived on time and in good condition. And, please note, I have no financial interest in this company! Again, my daughter and I are happy it is there and that I didn't have to spend 3 days in a car! Marilyn Szwarc *** USNA-NET post by: SZWARC Douglas 02 SZWARC Marilyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19947 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 14:27:09 -0500 (CDT) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:30:01 -0400 Subject: usna-net: Plebe liberty & leave X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5-6,8-9,12-16 From: iudoc@juno.com (james e wilson) Does anyone know what the leave schedule is (was or will likely be) for plebe's on Labor Day weekend As a Lutheran minister weekend travel is going to be very difficult for me ... trying to be back for Sunday morning and limited weekends off. But if they'll have leave on Labor Day monday, I could go over Sunday after worship and visit with him Sunday night and monday. All advice appreciated.. Otherwise, it's his mother making the trip ... and my next visit on Thanksgiving. And .... do I understand right that our plebe mid will be able to stay with us overnight (barring restrictions, etc) saturday at the Army/Navy Game? When and where will he likely need to report when leave is over? Thanks all .. Jim Wilson (Jake 02) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] *** USNA-NET post by: WILSON Jacob 02 WILSON Jim ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19970 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 14:27:39 -0500 (CDT) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:22:33 -0400 Subject: usna-net: PPW Update from Wilsons X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-4,8-9,23-24,32-33,35-37 From: iudoc@juno.com (james e wilson) Got home at about 0300 from the most remarkable, emotional weekend. Jake is fine! About 8 pounds lighter ... but looking good in the white uniforms. His experience has been good ... very difficult but filled with purpose and, to our surprise, a great deal of humor! We laid on the hotel bed and laughed till we cried over some of the crazy things they did and were subjected to. Positives included: getting there early on Thursday to rest and do mid store calculator things; finding the Bells in the dark for PEP and finding "our" mid in the mass of well conditioned bodies; good weather for the formal parades, worship at the Chapel, sunday lunch at the Officer & Faculty Club was perfect and he loved it, being downtown on Saturday night with all those parents and mids and realizing that we're not alone; standing on "his favorite place" and knowing that he'll be there often thinking and praying, taking so many pictures; praying together on Sunday in the parking lot amidst all the tears (I day we tried, but only tears came out), the Alvin and the chipmunk Christmas music ("Theodore, why aren't you smiling?!), seeing familiar faces from central Ohio, hearing Jake say "I know I made the right decision, it's hard but I want to be here," touring the YP so we know what that will be like, and seeing his room. And, I just love those flyovers! Negatives included: seeing his room (what a pit ... even though clean and well stowed!), meeting his anguished roommates and parents who will consider separation, the Holiday Inn (final straw was an unwillingness to allow us to extend stay through the afternoon for even a few hours), cash flow, our son's five messages on sponsor's voice mail with no reply, and the mass emotions as Sunday liberty ended. Real men and women most definitely do cry ... it was hard for us, and gutwrenching to watch others. How do we put this all into words? We can't, but you mostly likely understand since you've been there. Now .... how many days till Thanksgving? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] *** USNA-NET post by: WILSON Jacob 02 WILSON Jim ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00626 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 20:05:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:08:00 -0400 From: Marilyn Szwarc To: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: Parents' Weekend I would imagine that all of us parents of Plebes are decompressing. I was exhausted from the weekend -- we were active but every time my son came close to a bed, we lost him for a few hours! Another favorite pastime was spending time in the shower -- we stayed at a B&B and there were 4 families with Plebes -- I have a feeling that the innkeeper's water bill will spike for this weekend! My son GAINED weight -- that might be a sad commentary on my cooking! He said that he was always hungry -- I had sent him lots of care packages -- he said that he didn't always have time to eat the food in them! We also laughed at his stories -- it was reassuring to me that he has retained his sense of humor -- I think that all of the Plebes need to find humor in their lives -- it keeps them sane -- and it will also make for fun class reunions in the future! I think my hair got singed during the flyby! USAFA flybys tend to be high because of either Colorado Springs regulations or because the glass blew out of the press box one time -- my feeling is that the Navy's flybys are that low because Navy pilots are crazy -- and I say this as the wife of a former Naval aviator! It was great -- my daughter at USAFA is envious -- she wishes that she were there to share in the flyby excitement -- or fright, as the case might be! Marilyn Szwarc *** USNA-NET post by: SZWARC Douglas 02 SZWARC Marilyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA21054 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 05:06:02 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 06:07:40 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free) To: james e wilson CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Plebe liberty & leave References: <19980810.153001.9102.2.IUdoc@juno.com> Greetings from Midshippers! Normal procedure for liberty when holiday falls on a Monday is town liberty on Sat & Sun but only yard(campus) liberty on Monday for plebes. Army Navy liberty could change but if weekend/overnight granted, would have to report back by Sunday, evening meal formation. Will verify if otherwise. james e wilson wrote: > > Does anyone know what the leave schedule is (was or will likely be) for > plebe's on Labor Day weekend As a Lutheran minister weekend travel is > going to be very difficult for me ... trying to be back for Sunday > morning and limited weekends off. But if they'll have leave on Labor > Day monday, I could go over Sunday after worship and visit with him > Sunday night and monday. All advice appreciated.. > > Otherwise, it's his mother making the trip ... and my next visit on > Thanksgiving. > > And .... do I understand right that our plebe mid will be able to stay > with us overnight (barring restrictions, etc) saturday at the Army/Navy > Game? When and where will he likely need to report when leave is over? > > Thanks all .. > > Jim Wilson (Jake 02) > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > *** USNA-NET post by: WILSON Jacob 02 WILSON Jim > > _________________________________________________________________ > WP-ORG, PO Box 609, Moneta, VA 24121 > Homepage: http://www.West-Point.Org > Mission: http://www.west-point.org/about.html ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29003 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:04:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:06:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: HOME After an 18 hour drive to our home we are back and I would like to refect on the weekend for a moment. As everyone else the going from place to place looking in the face of every Plebe thinking "Is that MINE?" I am pretty tired and really happy when I did spot mine. Of course he knew were we were as we were the ones with the 2 purple balloons. That was our way of letting him know WE WERE THERE!! The first hug was awsome and immediatly followed by me touching his knee and asking "What's WRONG with your knee?!" The knee brace I spotted wasn't on there when he left 6 long weeks ago! "Just tendonitis, Mom, I'm fine!" The entire weekend was like being in a dream or a movie set and I want to go back, RIGHT NOW!! But the one thing that stands out in my mind the most was the last hour we spent together. As many others we too needed to check out of the hotel room before Mass on Sunday, so we had no where to go to spend time together. We went to lunch after noon Formation and then to Barnes and Nobels for Starbucks coffee while we waited for the 1 hour photo to develop the pics. The jets didn't ruin the camera afterall! After getting the pictures Brad said lets got to the Yard I want to go somewhere. We parked and entered Memorial Hall (side doors ONLY) and up the ladder we went. Brad showed us several displays and then we sat at the chairs and that is when Brad began to speak of all the reasons "why" he is there. How those in that Hall gave their lives for his freedom and future and how he will be there for those both past and present. He spoke with the age and wisdom of a 70 year old man who has been is 3 wars! I was truly impressed. Until that point my son was the same son I hugged at the airport, a little thinner, looking GREAT in white, still smiling, still wanting Big Macs but now so much older! I have to say the entire Yard drips with pride and honor as does my 18 year old son. As we had a tearful goodbye Brad hugged his little brother and Cody said "Bye Aught 2, love ya!" Brad said " I love you Aught 7!" Yes we too might have 2 sons from this wonderful place. With that Brad entered Mother B, wiped a tear with the "ammo" I placed in his pocket (add ammo to the Mid Family Jargon book), turned sharply right, "BEAT ARMY"!! I hope everyone can look and the pride and honor the USNA has placed in the hearts of our mids and use that to get though these very long weeks and years. I cry for the pride I feel and the contentment of knowing my son made the right choice. The Pattersons: Todd, Nancy and Cody (07?) &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16688 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:24:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Diane L Brown" To: Subject: usna-net: visitation Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:24:11 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Greetings!! This is the first time I have written, but I have learned alot by reading everyone else's messages. I gather that we are a little different from most of the other parents writing. My son went for two years to New Mexico Military Instititute before he was accepted to the Academy, so not only is he a little older (20) but I am a little, and I do mean little, bit use to him being away from home. I still miss him like crazy, but am so proud of him for sticking to his dream. I so enjoyed the week-end. Nate has lost about 10 lbs. but does he look great!!! He didn't want to stop at all this week-end. We went to a movie, Baltimore (inner Harbor) twice and D.C. once. I'm exhausted. We are not used to the humidity so that took some getting used to. Nate had written and spoken of how beautiful is Annapolis and he wasn't wrong. I've always known I was an easterner at heart. Anyway, I would like to go back for another visit before the holidays and am trying to find the most opportune time. Do the plebes get Columbus day off and if so, would they have town liberty on both Sat and Sun? I am familiar with how popular that week-end is in the east but I think that might be a great time for us to go. Any help or advice?? We are now busy getting ready for son number 2 to go away to college for the first time (August 20 to Southern Utah University). It is certainly different getting him ready. Thank you for all the input, Diane Brown (Nate Bastar 02) *** USNA-NET post by: BASTAR Nathan 02 BROWN Diane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20910 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:53:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Date-warning: Date header was inserted by clstad.iss.csupomona.edu From: JHowland@csupomona.edu (Joyce Howland) Subject: usna-net: Plebe Schedules X-Sender: JHowland@pop.as.csupomona.edu To: usna-net@navy-usna.org We saw our plebe's academic schedule during parent's weekend. Since they picked up their books, they must know what courses they are taking. We saw our plebe's books in a bag with his name on it when we visited his room on Sat. Joyce Dr. Joyce E. Howland Director, Office of Student Affairs College of Environmental Design California State Polytechnic University, Pomona 3801 W. Temple Ave. Pomona, CA 91768-4084 Phone: 909-869-2670 E-mail: jhowland@csupomona.edu "Creativity takes Courage" Henri Matisse *** USNA-NET post by: HOWLAND Joyce 02 FERNANDES Von Patrick ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23430 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 19:54:02 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 20:55:49 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free) To: Diane L Brown CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: visitation References: <0d09e1426200b88UPIMSSMTPUSR04@email.msn.com> Hi Diane...Greeting from MIDSHIPPERS There are 3 holidays prior to Thanksgiving leave(wed-11/25-sun-11/29) Labor Day - Mon (no classes) 9/07/98 Columbus Day - Mon (no classes) 10/12/98 Veterans Day - Wed (no classes) 11/11/98 When Holiday falls on Monday (yard liberty only for plebes) , Saturday & Sunday Town Liberty for all classes. Columbus Day Weekend, best weekend to come. Right after their 8 week exams(9/28-10/02) and right before Homecoming Weekend(10/15-18/98). ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01587 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 22:09:25 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: dcarter@pop1.trib.com Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 21:11:44 -0600 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: Dan Carter Subject: usna-net: ACADEMIC YEAR 1998-1999 (UNOFFICIAL) Induction Day Class of 2002.....07/01/98 Independence Day....................07/04/98 Academic Assembly Retreat...07/21/98-07/22/98 Plebe Parents Weekend..........08/07/98-08/09/98 Reform the Brigade.................08/14/98-08/18/98 Delayed Graduation................08/14/98 Academic Boards.....................08/19/98-08/20/98 FIRST SEMESTER, FALL 1998 Classes Begin............................08/19/98 Labor Day (No Classes)...........09/07/98 Football v Wake Forest (A).....09/12/98 Preregistration for Spring........09/14/98-09/22/98 Formal Parade...........................09/18/98 '99 Parents Weekend................09/18/98-09/20/98 Football v Kent State (H).........09/19/98 Football v Tulane (A)................09/26/98 Academic Reserved Period.......09/28/98-10/02/98 Formal Parade...........................10/02/98 Football v West Virginia (H)....10/03/98 Grades Due...............................10/06/98 Midshipmen Academic Performance Reports Due.......10/09/98 Football v Air Force (A)...........10/10/98 Columbus Day (No Classes).....10/12/98 Alumni Homecoming Weekend.................................10/15/98-10/18/98 Formal Parade........................10/16/98 Football v Colgate (HC).........10/17/98 Football v Boston College (A).10/24/98 Academic Reserved Period.....11/02/98-11/06/98 Football v Rutgers (H)............11/07/98 Registration for Second Semester.................................11/09/98-11/25/98 Grades Due.............................11/10/98 Veterans Day (No Classes)....11/11/98 Midshipmen Academic Performance Reports Due............................11/13/98 Football v Notre Dame ..........11/14/98 Football v SMU (H)................11/21/98 Thanksgiving Leave (After Last Class/Military Duty)..11/25/98-11/29/98 Football v Army (A)................12/05/98 Classes End.............................12/09/98 Reading Days..........................12/10/98-12/11/98 Final Examinations..................12/12/98 Final Examinations..................12/14/98-12/18/98 Christmas Leave (After Last Class/Military Duty) ....12/18/98-01/05/99 Delayed Graduation..............12/19/98 Grades Due............................12/22/98 Christmas Day........................12/25/98 New Year's Day......................01/01/99 Academic Boards....................01/04/99-01/07/99 SECOND SEMESTER, SPRING 1999 January Intersessional............01/05/99-01/07/99 4/C Majors Briefings...............01/06/99-01/07/99 Classes Begin...........................01/08/99 IDS............................................01/11/99 Martin Luther King, Jr. (No Classes)....01/18/99 Service Assignment Night......01/29/99 2/C & 3/C Preregistration.....02/01/99-02/09/99 Academic Reserved Period Begins...02/12/99 President's Day (No Classes)...02/15/99 Academic Reserved Period......02/16/99-02/19/99 Grades Due...............................02/23/99 Midshipmen Academic Performance Reports Due..........02/26/99 Spring Break (After Last Class/Military Duty) ....03/05/99-03/14/99 4/C Majors Selection...........03/15/99-03/19/99 4/C Preregistration..............03/22/99-03/26/99 Academic Reserved Period..03/29/99-04/02/99 Grades Due...........................04/06/99 Midshipmen Academic Performance Reports Due..........04/09/99 Formal Parade......................04/09/99 International Ball..................04/10/99 NAFAC..................................04/12/99-04/15/99 Formal Parade (Tentative)...04/12/99 or 04/13/99 or 04/14/99 Registration............................04/13/99-04/23/99 Formal Parade........................04/23/99 Classes End.............................04/29/99 Reading Days...........................04/30/99 Reading Days...........................05/03/99 Final Examinations..................05/04/99-05/07/99 Final Examinations..................05/10/99-05/11/99 End of Semester Period TBD..05/12/99-05/13/99 May Intersessional...................05/14/99-05/17/99 Grades Due...............................05/14/99 COMAPS/MAPRS Due............05/17/99 Academic Boards.......................05/17/99-05/20/99 Precommissioning Period/Commissioning Week ...........05/18/99-05/26/99 Graduation Day........................05/26/99 Memorial Day...........................05/31/99 Induction Day Class of 2003.....07/01/99 Date of last revision: 10/07/97 ==================== Carpae Dium Dan http://w3.trib.com/~dcarter/alumni.html *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24385 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:31:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Kris Hefner To: "'Dolly Pantelides'" , Diane L Brown Cc: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: RE: usna-net: visitation Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:31:27 -0400 Oct 9-11 is good for the mids but bad for parents trying to find a hotel = room. There is a big boat/sailing show?? in Annapolis that weekend. I = did find a room at the Days Inn (Riva Road) for $129 per night. Deb Hefner -----Original Message----- From: Dolly Pantelides [SMTP:midshippers@go-navy.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 8:56 PM To: Diane L Brown Cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: visitation Hi Diane...Greeting from MIDSHIPPERS There are 3 holidays prior to Thanksgiving leave(wed-11/25-sun-11/29) Labor Day - Mon (no classes) 9/07/98 Columbus Day - Mon (no classes) 10/12/98 Veterans Day - Wed (no classes) 11/11/98 When Holiday falls on Monday (yard liberty only for plebes) , Saturday & Sunday Town Liberty for all classes. Columbus Day Weekend, best weekend to come. Right after their 8 week exams(9/28-10/02) and right before Homecoming Weekend(10/15-18/98). *** USNA-NET post by: HEFNER John&Deb 02 HEFNER Kristopher ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03425 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:12:31 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 23:14:04 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free) To: Kris Hefner CC: Diane L Brown , "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: usna-net: visitation( 1-877-3go-navy) References: <01BDC6E9.3B775D80@ip64.netassoc.net> Greetings from Midshippers...you are almost right. I forgot that is also the annual BOAT SHOW WEEKEND, however, there are still rooms available but usually at a three night minimum(Friday, Sat & Sun and a premium price>>about $159/night. As a service to parent's and Midn we try to hold rooms around town on a regular basis. Most at reduced rates when possible, depending on weekends desired and demand. Will be glad to assist ! Kris Hefner wrote: > > Oct 9-11 is good for the mids but bad for parents trying to find a hotel room. There is a big boat/sailing show?? in Annapolis that weekend. I did find a room at the Days Inn (Riva Road) for $129 per night. > > Deb Hefner > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dolly Pantelides [SMTP:midshippers@go-navy.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 8:56 PM > To: Diane L Brown > Cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org > Subject: Re: usna-net: visitation > > Hi Diane...Greeting from MIDSHIPPERS > > There are 3 holidays prior to Thanksgiving leave(wed-11/25-sun-11/29) > > Labor Day - Mon (no classes) 9/07/98 > > Columbus Day - Mon (no classes) 10/12/98 > > Veterans Day - Wed (no classes) 11/11/98 > > When Holiday falls on Monday (yard liberty only for plebes) , Saturday & > Sunday Town Liberty for all classes. > > Columbus Day Weekend, best weekend to come. Right after their 8 week > exams(9/28-10/02) and right before Homecoming Weekend(10/15-18/98). > > *** USNA-NET post by: HEFNER John&Deb 02 HEFNER Kristopher > > _________________________________________________________________ > WP-ORG, PO Box 609, Moneta, VA 24121 > Homepage: http://www.West-Point.Org > Mission: http://www.west-point.org/about.html ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06080 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:08:20 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: dcarter@pop1.trib.com Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 19:10:49 -0600 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: Dan Carter Subject: usna-net: http://www.usna.com/sources.html the usna alumni has a page you will be interested in reading. among other things, it has recent USNA related articles that have been published. these articles will keep you infomed. check them out. :-) ==================== Carpae Dium Dan http://w3.trib.com/~dcarter/alumni.html *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10126 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:58:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Kris Hefner To: "'usna-net@navy-usna.org'" Subject: usna-net: Phone calls???? Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:03:23 -0400 Has anyone heard if we will be getting calls from our plebes this Saturday? Deb Hefner Kris '02 *** USNA-NET post by: HEFNER John&Deb 02 HEFNER Kristopher ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13039 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:53:02 -0500 (CDT) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:51:16 -0400 Subject: usna-net: Phone & email X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,6-7,10-14 From: iudoc@juno.com (james e wilson) Sorry, Hefners, no word on phone calls. But we got an email from Jake this afternoon ... 1445. Said he has just gotten it up and running ... and sent us a very brief update. He has made his room change, and has enjoyed a pleasant week. Said they had a banquet, and he made the holocaust trip. He also noted his detailers are preparing them for the onslaught of the brigade next week. Hope you all here on the e-mail in the near future. We sent him a note back around 1800 and at 2300 haven't heard. Not expecting that quick of a turnaround ever, but it will be fun to see how it actually works. Again, thanks friends. Jim & Ann Wilson (Jake, 02) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] *** USNA-NET post by: WILSON Jacob 02 WILSON Jim ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13074 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:57:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:58:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: Kris Hefner cc: "'usna-net@navy-usna.org'" Subject: Re: usna-net: Phone calls???? In-Reply-To: <01BDC7CF.6289D600@ip109.netassoc.net> Under the 4th Class Regiment Homepage there is a heading called Phone Times, it has not been updated since before August 1st. Has anyone gotten an email yet? &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA13124 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:00:51 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: dcarter@pop1.trib.com In-Reply-To: <19980814.225604.13094.1.IUdoc@juno.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:03:18 -0600 To: iudoc@juno.com (james e wilson) From: Dan Carter Subject: Re: usna-net: Phone & email keep in mind that as the brigade reforms, there will be huge traffic on the email outfit. i don't remember the exact number, maybe 250,000 per day, at least it is large. sometimes your email turn around will be seconds or minutes, sometimes in days. don't read anything into it. just enjoy the access with the plebes. a word to the wise, be careful what you put into the email messages. >Sorry, Hefners, no word on phone calls. > >But we got an email from Jake this afternoon ... 1445. Said he has just >gotten it up and running ... and sent us a very brief update. He has >made his room change, and has enjoyed a pleasant week. Said they had a >banquet, and he made the holocaust trip. He also noted his detailers are >preparing them for the onslaught of the brigade next week. > >Hope you all here on the e-mail in the near future. We sent him a note >back around 1800 and at 2300 haven't heard. Not expecting that quick of >a turnaround ever, but it will be fun to see how it actually works. ==================== Carpae Dium Dan http://w3.trib.com/~dcarter/alumni.html *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA13147 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:01:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Janet Ferrara" To: Subject: usna-net: E-mail Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:04:57 -0700 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BDC7BE.CF8BC800" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Info: VM Online This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BDC7BE.CF8BC800 charset="iso-8859-1" Our son, Mike, class of 2000, called us last Friday night and said that = his e-mail was down (we haven't heard from him since) hasn't worked for = him in several weeks. They do have occasional problems with their servers and they do have = more than one server. Which means some Mids will be able to send and = receive e-mail and others won't. Since they reformed the Bridage today, = more people will be back to work and should get servers running again = soon. Sometimes Mike says they get their mail 2days or more days after = I send it. Hopefully, things will improve soon. =20 Janet Ferrara ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BDC7BE.CF8BC800 charset="iso-8859-1"

Our son, Mike, class of 2000, called = us last=20 Friday night and said that his e-mail was down (we haven't heard from = him since)=20 hasn't worked for him in several weeks.

They do have occasional problems = with their=20 servers and they do have more than one server. Which means some Mids = will be=20 able to send and receive e-mail and others won't. Since they = reformed the=20 Bridage today, more people will be back to work and should get servers = running=20 again soon. Sometimes Mike says they get their mail 2days or more = days=20 after I send it. Hopefully, things will improve soon. =

Janet = Ferrara

------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BDC7BE.CF8BC800-- *** USNA-NET post by: FERRARA Tom&Janet 00 FERRARA Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27738 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 09:53:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Kris Hefner To: "'usna-net@navy-usna.org'" Subject: usna-net: Phone Calls/E-Mail Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:30:33 -0400 Hi! Kris just called at 9:15am! He was on his way to a briefing at = 9:50 in Alumni Hall. He has his computer up and running and I just = received 2 e-mails from him that were sent this morning. (He said this = is my good morning hug that I used to get when he was still at home!) He = is moved into a new room and has 2 roommates now instead of 1. He said = the upper classmen are impressed with the Plebe's new computers. I have = Internet phone software installed on my PC and am taking Kris a copy = when I go over next week. I have to be in Washington on business Monday = and Tuesday, Aug 24-25 so my husband and I are going over early on = Saturday and stay in Annapolis so we can see Kris. Kris has phone cards from Sam's Club that are about .16 cents per call = anytime day or night. Does anyone have a cheaper solution? The phone = cards come in 120 or 500 minutes. You dial an 800 number, type in your = card number, and then the number you are calling. Not too bad but a = direct call would be better. The 800 number lines from ATT are .25 = cents per call. =20 Time to send his e-mail address to family and friends. =20 Deb Hefner *** USNA-NET post by: HEFNER John&Deb 02 HEFNER Kristopher ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06424 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:47:03 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: dcarter@pop1.trib.com Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 11:49:34 -0600 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: Dan Carter Subject: usna-net: phones received the following from my son, you may be interested. Brigade, Please read this message if you are thinking about purchasing a new cellular/wireless phone contract or are about to come up on the end of your existing contract. This message applies to the Brigade of Midshipmen, as well as any military or civilian faculty and staff. The products covered in this message are available to any authorized users of the Brigade Services Division facilities (USNA Store, Tailor Shop, Barber Shop, Cobbler Shop, Omega World Travel office). First of all, welcome back from what I hope was a great summer. This message is being sent to inform you about a new cellular phone contract that was just awarded by the Brigade Services Division earlier today. This contract will be structured similar to the Omega Travel contract, which is also administered by the Brigade Services Division. We have selected Sprint PCS as the "authorized" or "preferred" provider of cellular/wireless services for the Brigade. Like the Omega contract, you are not required to use this company for your cellular services. However, we have negotiated a contract that should provide you with a better overall value than what you could find on your own as an individual consumer. Sprint PCS is an innovator in the digital/PCS technology and has a superior product to offer its customers. Since the contract was just awarded today, the company will not be in a position to sign up new customers for a few more weeks. The intitial setup process will take no longer than 1 month, but should be completed sooner. Keep your eyes open for additional e-mail messages, flyers, and other informational displays. We will ensure that company representatives will be available during the initial period, as I'm sure there will be many questions about the service they are offering. Please let me know if you have any questions about this contract. Again, you are highly encouraged to delay negotiating a cellular/digital phone contract until you have had a chance to review the offerings covered by this contract. R, LT Brian Lester ==================== Carpae Dium Dan http://w3.trib.com/~dcarter/alumni.html *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06838 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 13:34:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 13:35:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: Dan Carter cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: phones In-Reply-To: I am actually bouncing emails with Brad at this moment. This is almost as exciting as Parent's weekend!! Nancy &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07359 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:56:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:58:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: USNA Net Subject: usna-net: Son # 2's words ^Memorial Hall has great meaning to my 2nd son ('07 with any luck and hard work) ************************************************************************* MEMORIAL HALL by, Cody Patterson Sunday August 9, 1998 I look at the great building, mouth dropped open. Little boys and girls called this building the big building. The elderly USNA grads called it their classroom. My brother and I called this building Memorial Hall. I walked up a big flight of stairs and walked in the right door. I looked at the right and left walls. They were covered with little displays. I walked up one more giant flight of stairs. As I entered the top level, my thoughts were of wow and wonder. Two chandeleirs hang from the ceiling. I looked all around and saw paintings and bronze sculptures of many Naval heros. I read each and every story about the Navy men, commanders, Commodores, Admirals... Not all Navy men have to be high ranking to be heroic. Records of who died before and after graduating from the Academy. From that point on and every single second and minute, I know what I want to do. Go to the USNA! &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13333 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:34:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 17:35:58 -0700 (PDT) From: GO NAVY To: usna-net@NAVY-USNA.ORG Subject: usna-net: Email! I love the companionship of this list. Just this morning, I woke up and wondered, "Where is the mail?" "Where is the phone call?" "Where is the e-mail?" And a little while ago we got a phone call or two and e-mail. Parent's weekend was wonderful. Whatever doubts or fears I had before, are simply gone. The detailers, the USMC gunny, the Navy Lt. are wonderful role models.The other plebes and their families are remarkable. I'm really glad we went back for PPW. I wish I had time to have met everyone of you -- but we were busy watching our son eat and sleep. Go Foxtrot! *** USNA-NET post by: TORRES Leonard&Anita 02 TORRES Andrew ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA20369 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 23:21:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 23:23:55 -0500 From: Lane Trippe Subject: Re: usna-net: Phone Calls/E-Mail To: USNA-Net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Just got a U3 ( UNEXPECTED & UNSCHEDULED & UNLIMITED) phone call from Gus. What a delight...to pick up the phone and hear his voice, unhurried and relatively unhassled. He also sent e-mail this evening. Says they have a bit of a 'rest' while the brigade completes reform, although no liberty until next weekend (IFF they pass their MAJOR room inspection....interesting twist to prevent undue hassling from upperclassmen: the upperclassmen don't get leave unless the plebes earn theirs!) It's wonderful to read impressions, anecdotes from PPW. I'll put ours on tomorrow, when more time. Would love to hear more. *** USNA-NET post by: HAIK Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA20432 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 23:25:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 23:27:35 -0500 From: Lane Trippe Subject: Re: usna-net: phones To: Dan Carter , usna-net@navy-usna.org X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I'm confused: surely, plebes are not allowed to have cell-phones...after all, they're prohibited from possessing anything that makes noise, yes? *** USNA-NET post by: HAIK Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05821 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 16 Aug 1998 19:49:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 19:52:12 -0500 From: Lane Trippe Subject: Re: usna-net: Request for feedback To: USNA-Net , Dolly Pantelides X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Dolly (I feel like I know you by now): You asked for ideas for "servicing mids": How about this? MOVIE PACKAGE(s) -- excursion for (1), (2), ... (squad) to go to the movies...Saturday afternoon matinee/Saturday evening...let's say to the Harbor 9 (or whatever it's called, in the Annapolis Mall). Would include: cab/van there and back, passes for N midshipmen to the movie of their choice, scrip good for med. popcorn and med. drink... Might be able to set it up with Harbor 9 management, van service which contracts with Loew's might be accommodating (they seemed very nice).... I'm going to post this also to USNA Net for more feedback/ideas. Many thanks for helping us keep wind in their sails. *** USNA-NET post by: HAIK Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06710 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 16 Aug 1998 20:23:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 20:24:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: Lane Trippe cc: USNA-Net , Dolly Pantelides Subject: Re: usna-net: Request for feedback In-Reply-To: <001c01bdc979$461d6800$f83737a6@lane> i think that movie packages are a great idea!! &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23511 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 12:28:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 12:29:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: USNA Net Subject: usna-net: EMAIL Hi everyone. Brad (19th) called at 9:30AM Sunday. He sid he could talk as long as he wanted, but there were many in line behind him, so he kept it short. He sent the first email on Saturday morning around 10AM CDT. His biggest news was that he MADE the Men's Glee Club. He was surprised since there were only 8 openings for Tenor 2's. He has moved into the 4th wing and has 2 new roommates, one from Alaska and one from Chicago. He still seems VERY happy and is looking forward to Glee Club practice tonight. He is still practicing baseball, I assume. He hasn't talked about baseball much since the moving, email and Glee Club is what is new at the moment. WOW, email!! He has sent probably 30 emails now. They are very short, but I very much LOVED getting a" goodnight" email last night and a "good morning" email today. He even had time to answer Cody's (brother age 13) computer problem email. I know it is hard to describe to those who are not used to emailing, but you can really tell HOW things are going by email. My Mom (she lives in Tampa, Florida) and I email every day. Since Brad left another Plebe Mom and I have been emailing regularly. I also email with a Wyoming Dad and a Kansas City Dad on a regular basis. Just email what you think and feel and before long it really will feel just like talking!! Happy 2002 Families and GO NAVY!!!! &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08819 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 20:49:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: dcarter@pop1.trib.com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 19:51:47 -0600 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: Dan Carter A friend sent this to me. Very nice. >>> > Many people will walk in and out of your life, but only true friends >>> > will leave footprints in your heart. >>> >>> > To handle yourself, use your head; >>> > To handle others, use your heart. >>> >>> > Anger is only one letter short of danger. >>> >>> > If someone betrays you once, it's his fault; >>> > if he betrays you twice, it's your fault. >>> >>> > Great minds discuss ideas; >>> > Average minds discuss events; >>> > Small minds discuss people. >>> > >>> > God gives every bird it's food, >>> > But He does not throw it into it's nest. >>> > He who loses money, loses much; >>> > He who loses a friend, loses more; >>> > He who loses faith, loses all. >>> > >>> > Beautiful young people are acts of nature, >>> > But beautiful old people are works of art. >>> > Learn from the mistakes of others. >>> > You can't live long enough to make them all yourself. >>> >>> > The tongue weighs practically nothing, But so few people can hold it. ==================== Carpae Dium Dan http://w3.trib.com/~dcarter/alumni.html *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27168 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:23:29 -0500 (CDT) From: JDBldrInc@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 20:24:23 EDT To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Baltimore Sun story The Baltimore Sun published an interesting story on 8-16-98 entitled "Introverts abandon ship". SunSpot - Maryland News http://www.baltimoresun.com/cgibin/editorial/story.cgi?storyid=900000174117 Sam Troy 02 Jeff & Sam, Boring OR - JDBldr Inc@aol.com *** USNA-NET post by: DICKEY Jeff&Sam 02 Troy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29673 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 07:05:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 08:09:19 -0400 From: Marilyn Szwarc To: Famnet , "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: Hurricanes For all of you on the east coast and those of us with kids at USNA, check out this website -- it has detailed updates and forecasts for Hurricane Bonnie. http://www.storm98.com/atlantic/bonniemap-c.html Marilyn Szwarc Meghan USAFA '00 CS15 Doug USNA '02 2nd Company *** USNA-NET post by: SZWARC Douglas 02 SZWARC Marilyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02414 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 07:26:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 07:27:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: Marilyn Szwarc cc: Famnet , "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: usna-net: Hurricanes In-Reply-To: <35E0066F.B39FF59F@fyi.net> Thanks! I used always watch about hurricanes and hope they didn't go to the gulf side of Florida because my parent's live in Tampa, but now I want them to go to somewhere very FAR away!! My son is on the East coast, USNA and my parents are still on the gulf! Maybe the hurricanes could go to Afghanastan!! Nancy &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02593 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 07:33:52 -0500 (CDT) From: DolfnJudy@aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 08:34:39 EDT To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: System Was Down Fellow USNA-NET Members, We recently experienced an outage on the USNA-NET listserver but the system is now running properly. The cause of the difficulty is currently under investigation. My thanks to two members who sent "heads up" messages yesterday which initiated the search for and ultimate correction of the problem. PLEASE, everyone, don't hesitate to contact me directly if you see something which appears to be out of order. "We can't fix what we don't know is broken!" (:>) Thanks again to our two "watchkeepers." Best regards, Dolf *** USNA-NET post by: BEIL Dolf&Judy Moderator ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02751 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 07:50:09 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 07:52:20 -0500 From: Lane Trippe Subject: usna-net: Hurricanes To: USNA-Net boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0081_01BDCE6A.F4AA5220" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01BDCE6A.F4AA5220 charset="iso-8859-1" They ALL seem to either come to or pass near New Orleans, a/k/a = Hurricane Central. (Most people down here seem to see them as a variant = on Mardi Gras parades--utterly disrupting, somewhat dangerous but a = tremendous source of entertainment. Having lived through several direct = hits from hurricanes, in northeast climes, I have a healthy respect.) I = agree, better anywhere else than hitting our boys & girls in = Annapolis...although it could be seen as an excellent training = opportunity. Does anyone know: how often has a hurricane hit USNA? In = recent times? ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01BDCE6A.F4AA5220 charset="iso-8859-1"

They ALL seem to either come to or = pass near New=20 Orleans, a/k/a Hurricane Central. (Most people down here seem to = see them=20 as a variant on Mardi Gras parades--utterly disrupting, somewhat = dangerous but a=20 tremendous source of entertainment. Having lived through several = direct=20 hits from hurricanes, in northeast climes, I have a healthy = respect.) I=20 agree, better anywhere else than hitting our boys & girls in=20 Annapolis...although it could be seen as an excellent training=20 opportunity. Does anyone know: how often has a hurricane hit = USNA? In recent times?

------=_NextPart_000_0081_01BDCE6A.F4AA5220-- *** USNA-NET post by: HAIK Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02910 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 08:08:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 08:10:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: Lane Trippe cc: USNA-Net Subject: Re: usna-net: Hurricanes In-Reply-To: <008401bdce94$de409ce0$553937a6@lane> I would LOVE to get some history on how often, or how many times a hurricane has hit USNA!! O.K. everybody that is your Sunday challenge! :) Nancy &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04966 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:24:23 -0500 (CDT) From: JDBldrInc@aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 11:24:38 EDT To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Instant Messages The following was copied from the West Point lists - I think it's good information for us too, especially for plebes who prefer to not leave the "safety" of their room to use a pay phone , as well as a $$ saver. We have AOL with the Instant Message feature so it didn't occur to me before that some of you might be missing out on a great time with your son/daughter: < We have been using ICQ to communicate with our cadet. The address is as > follows: http://www.mirabilis.com (Home Page)...OR.. > http://www.mirabilis.com/icqme.html (The page you'll need for downloads > and full explanation of how it works!) It will require both you and your > cadet installing it onto your system...Don't worry it is not hard to do, > just follow their simple instructions...... It has > several features that we especially like: > > 1. You and your cadet decide who you'd like in your ICQ circle by both > parties entering each others email addresses and names. (note you must > first subscribe and add ICQ to your system; a free download from above > address NOTE this is totally free if you're already online) > 2. We can have our own private chat line by simply clicking chat when > we see our cadet is online. Others (in your circle) can chime in by > requesting such. > 3. YES...we can tell if our cadet is online. On our computer his name > turns Blue when he's online and Red when he's off. I have my cadets name > floating on my screen at all times, if he or I decide to leave a message > or chat we simply click and type that request. > 4. If we are busy or need to be "away" from the computer, that too is > provided for with the system. > There are many other nice features, but the chat line is tops! Sam Troy 02 Jeff & Sam, Boring OR - JDBldr Inc@aol.com *** USNA-NET post by: DICKEY Jeff&Sam 02 Troy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07062 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 11:21:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Janet Ferrara" To: "USNA Net" Subject: usna-net: Netscape's AOL Instant Messenger Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 09:24:56 -0700 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01BDCE77.E44996E0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Info: VM Online This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BDCE77.E44996E0 charset="iso-8859-1" Has anyone tried using Netscape's AOL Instant Messenger available in = Netscape Version 4.72. I just set it up and would like to see if it works, but I need someone = to logon with me! It looks like I need other people screen logon's = (user names) to get this to work! Janet Ferrara, USNA Parents Club of So. Calif. Mike, Class of 2000 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BDCE77.E44996E0 charset="iso-8859-1"

Has anyone tried using Netscape's AOL Instant = Messenger=20 available in Netscape Version 4.72.

I just set it up and would like to see if it works, = but I need=20 someone to logon with me! It looks like I need other people screen = logon's=20 (user names) to get this to work!

Janet Ferrara, USNA Parents Club of So. = Calif.

Mike, Class of 2000

------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BDCE77.E44996E0-- *** USNA-NET post by: FERRARA Tom&Janet 00 FERRARA Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07478 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 11:25:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 11:25:37 -0500 (CDT) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: ditus@west-point.org Subject: usna-net: Testing routes (IGNORE) checking routing ... Please excuse intrusion. //WP-ORG *** USNA-NET post by: BOLANOS Expeditus 1990 47052 ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07522 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 11:29:38 -0500 (CDT) From: DolfnJudy@aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 12:30:33 EDT To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Voice on Internet - Allowed? Fellow USNA-NET Members, A recent message forwarded some information regarding voice communication over the internet which had been broadcast on the West Point listserver. The message was a good one and the information can be very useful. However, I am currently trying to explore whether this use of the internet fits within those allowed by DOIM, the USMA computer management. As you can imagine, there can be a significant bandwidth consumption issue with large numbers of cadets (midshipmen) using voice and possibly even video capabilities which are now available. Bandwidth costs money and there is a finite capacity on existing lines. Also, there is the issue of restriction of phone traffic for the first year students to be considered. I am exploring this issue with the USMA folks and wonder if anyone would like to do the same with the USNA computer staff. One of the things that we absolutely DO NOT want to do is to encourage any actions by ourselves or our children which is in any way in conflict with the Academy regulations. If you have knowledge of this issue or are willing to work on it, please send me an E-Mail directly. Best regards, Dolf *** USNA-NET post by: BEIL Dolf&Judy Moderator ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22146 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 22:39:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:43:08 -0400 From: Marilyn Szwarc To: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: Labor Day Weekend Are many Plebe parents going to be in Annapolis for Labor Day Weekend?? There is a JV football game on Sunday, just in case you are looking for something to do! My daughter is coming in from the Air Force Academy for the occasion. A friend of mine who has a junior said that it is a good weekend to be there because the Plebes have 2 days where they can be out late. Looking forward to meeting all of us who survived Plebe Summer! Marilyn Szwarc Doug '02 USNA 2nd Company Meghan '00 USAFA CS15 *** USNA-NET post by: SZWARC Douglas 02 SZWARC Marilyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02422 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:21:09 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:22:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: USNA Net Subject: usna-net: emails I am sorry that some of you are unhappy about the "I Love My Mid" advertisement. Just delete it and reply to THEM ONLY to be removed from future mailings. I personally do not appreciate having so many emails from others asking to be removed. I didn't mail it to you so please don't respond to me. There are a few of us who have a Mid that has a NEW computer that has already gone in for repair. I haven't had email to speak of for over a week from Brad. Every time I log on and see that I have 6 or 7 new messages I can only hope it is an email from a loved one only to find out that it is someone complaining. We have much larger things to be concerned about: the safety of our country, the hurricane that is going to hit the East coast somewhere, floods in Texas and most importantly the status of our Mids/Plebes. Lets send positive message to this resource. It is supposed to be here to help us all cope with a difficult 4 years and to help us to stay informed. It is not to a "complaint board". Thanks and everyone, please have a wonderful day and BEAT ARMY!!! &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03620 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:35:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:37:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: USNA Net Subject: usna-net: Weather I have a "site" bookmarked that I visit frequently, it is the weather station at the Naval Academy. It gives current weather updated every few minutes 24 hours a day. They have added a "click" for hurricane Bonnie. The site is at: http://aws.com/cgi-win/wx.exe?annps I personally find the details of the weather interesting. You will know the kind of day/week your Mid is having as far as weather is concerned. Something to talk about, the weather! :) Nancy &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25053 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:22:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Menziesw@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:23:36 EDT To: usna-net@NAVY-USNA.ORG Subject: usna-net: Prayer-net Thank you so much for the information regarding sites to track Hurricane Bonnie. I haven't heard from my mid because his computer is down, but I am wondering if anyone has heard if the Yard is preparing in any way because of Hurricane Bonnie approaching? Also, as parent's of midshipmen we also have a prayer-net that is a similar site to this one. Prayers for our mid's are received and then sent out over email to those that have requested to be a part of prayer-net. If anyone is interested in becoming a part of the USNA-USMA Prayer-net just let me know and I will get back to you with the necessary email information. My email address is menziesw@aol.com I have already sent in a request for safety for all the mids at the Yard--prayer is one thing I can do as a mom on the west coast for my son on the east coast! *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29443 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:13:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:15:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: USNA Net Subject: usna-net: TOP (fwd) This is part of an article that my Mom in Florida found via internet regarding the preparations being made by the USNA for the reception of Bonnie! Nancy &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& _________________________________________________________________ =20 Ocean City under hurricane watch as storm rolls our way=20 _________________________________________________________________ =20 By: LAURA GREEN, Staff Writer _________________________________________________________________ =20 A hurricane watch was declared this morning for Ocean City, and may be extended to Anne Arundel County later today. =20 The watch -- signifying a threat of hurricane conditions within 24 to 36 hours -- was called for the Atlantic coast, from the Virginia-North Carolina border to Cape Henlopen, Del., said Butch Kinerney of the Maryland Emergency Management Agency. =20 Officials said the watch could be expanded later today to possibly include the county and other parts of Maryland. =20 But Mr. Kinerney cautioned that it is too soon to tell where Hurricane Bonnie will go. The storm, which has begun to speed up, could move anywhere at this point. =20 "It could track more up the ocean side, or it could track up the (Chesapeake) Bay," he said. =20 The 400-mile-wide storm, packing 115-mph winds, was wobbling toward the Eastern Seaboard this morning. It was expected to make landfall in the Carolinas. =20 Mr. Kinerney advised residents to monitor the hurricane's progress. =20 "Certainly, people in Anne Arundel County should watch this storm, especially those who live on the water's edge." =20 Bracing for any impact from the storm, the Naval Academy this morning moved its sailboats not being used for training to safer moorings in Round Bay, academy spokesman Elizabeth Kucik said. =20 Officials were to decide whether to move larger training sailboats this afternoon, she said. =20 By tomorrow afternoon or evening, Mr. Kinerney said the Annapolis area could see some rain. =20 "Our best guess it that it's going to give us some showers at the very least," he said. =20 Meanwhile, Ocean City police were taking a cautious approach. =20 High surf, strong waves and rip tides already being generated by Bonnie have led to warnings for swimmers. =20 "It is creating some hazardous surf conditions," said Jay Hancock, police spokesman. "If you are on the beach, stay near guard stands." =20 John Billet, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Sterling, Va., said the hurricane isn't expected to cause any weather change today. =20 Today was expected to be the last day this week with temperatures in the mid- to upper 90s, as relief should come quickly, Mr. Billet said. =20 =20 Temperatures in the upper 80s are expected tomorrow with a weak cold front arriving on Thursday, bringing temperatures in the 80s throughout the weekend. =20 Once again, the Maryland Department of the Environment asked residents to limit outdoor activity. The state agency declared a Code Orange for today, with moderately unhealthy air quality. =20 The Baltimore metropolitan area's maximum ground level ozone concentration yesterday was found in central Anne Arundel County. =20 Residents are asked to wait until dusk to fuel cars, avoid cutting grass with gas-powered lawn mowers and carpool when possible.---- =20 The Associated Press contributed to this story. _________________________________________________________________ =20 Published Aug. 25, 1998, [3]The Capital, Annapolis, Md. Copyright =A9 1998 [4]The Capital, Annapolis, Md. References 1. http://www.capitalonline.com/TOP.html 2. http://www.capitalonline.com/images/long_TOP.gif 3. http://www.capitalonline.com/ 4. http://www.capitalonline.com/ *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01981 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:34:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:32:50 -0500 From: The Reeds To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Introductory Message Hello! We have just subscribed. We live in San Antonio, Tx and our son, Eric, is in the class of 2002 at the USNA. We look forward to sharing our experiences with you. Pam and Ed Reed *** USNA-NET post by: REED Eric 02 REED Ed ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02785 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:38:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Kris Hefner To: "'Marilyn Szwarc'" , "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: RE: usna-net: Labor Day Weekend Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:40:49 -0400 Hi, We just go back tonight from Washington, DC. We spent the day with = Kris on Saturday (had lunch with his sponsor family) and stayed on the = yard with him all day Sunday. Monday night we drove over from Bethesda = and had dinner with him at the Dry Dock and went to Nimitz with him to = study! Lots of fun. We are going back for Labor Day. I am involved in = a special project and will also be in Baltimore quite a bit in September = so I am hoping to pop down to the Academy whenever Kris has free time. = He is doing great and is now on the Karate team. Their first practice = is this Thursday. The team attends our own Tae Kwon Do Tournament in = Charleston WV in February!!!=20 A great place to go for fun if they drop the 22 mile restriction is = "Dave and Buster's" at the White Flint Mall in Bethesda (about 40-45 = minute trip). It is great fun for the kids and adults! VIDEO = everything!!!!! Good food, too. You can make a day of it. We went = there during PPW and it was a great stress reliever for Kris. More tomorrow. I have to work in the morning! Deb Hefner -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Szwarc [SMTP:mszwarc@fyi.net] Sent: Monday, August 24, 1998 11:43 PM To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Labor Day Weekend Are many Plebe parents going to be in Annapolis for Labor Day Weekend?? There is a JV football game on Sunday, just in case you are looking for something to do! My daughter is coming in from the Air Force Academy for the occasion. A friend of mine who has a junior said that it is a good weekend to be there because the Plebes have 2 days where they can be out late. Looking forward to meeting all of us who survived Plebe Summer! Marilyn Szwarc Doug '02 USNA 2nd Company Meghan '00 USAFA CS15 *** USNA-NET post by: SZWARC Douglas 02 SZWARC Marilyn *** USNA-NET post by: HEFNER John&Deb 02 HEFNER Kristopher ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17969 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:27:59 -0500 (CDT) From: PBombach@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:29