~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02613 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:14:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:17:36 -0600 (CST) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: USNA Net cc: Courtni Wright Subject: usna-net: help I am sending this to get Courtni Wright the USNA Netserve. I don't know any other way to get her back "on line" Her computer crashed and she lost us! :) Thanks, Nancy Patterson &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12309 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 17:38:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 18:43:53 -0800 From: Art Organization: . To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: just joined Hi This is a just signed up "Hello". I am the mother of a mid in the Class of 2001. This looks like a great site. Gerri *** USNA-NET post by: BALL Arthur 01 BALL Gerri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23126 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:01:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 22:04:12 -0600 From: Lane Trippe Subject: Re: usna-net: just joined To: Art , USNA-Net X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Welcome, Gerri! I'm Lane Trippe in New Orleans - son is 2002 (plebe), 11th Co. What company is your son's (I'm presuming "Art" is a son)? Tell us more about where you're from, son's special interests, etc. The list's been a tad quiet lately...don't be fooled: we can be a lively bunch. Suggestion: when you respond to a Net question/query, copy it to the Net (unless it's personal or more individual than appropriate to Net) so we can keep the Net community knit. Best to you and yours, Lane. *** USNA-NET post by: HAIK Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08490 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 05:58:10 -0600 (CST) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:03:14 -0500 Subject: usna-net: Checkin' in ... X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-3,10-11,17-18,21-22,27-28,33-34,40-41,51-52,54-55, 61-62,64-65,72-79 From: iudoc@juno.com (james e wilson) Been a while since I've written ..... (Jim Wilson, Jake 2002, 15th), and it has been a tad quiet lately, so here's an update ... welcome aboard, Art! We get only a sparse e-mail or two from Jake. We understand the shortage, and know our son's personality pretty well. In fact, he has had server problems this past week, so he hasn't gotten anything from us for about 8 days. But he does call each Saturday, or Sunday, always from his sponsors. He was so busy in the last two weeks that he only checked his ground mail twice ... each time finding a host of goodies and letters. His sponsor family have turned out to be wonderful, and he loves going there. This week he even got to spend the night there, and go to church with them. He had been on leave with the volleyball team and they finished late Saturday, and didn't have to play again until mid afternoon Sunday. So they were given the choice to either go back or stay out. You know what they decided! He played VB at Univ of Maryland, and Navy crushed the tourney opposition. So much so, that the plebes all played and I guess did well. Our plebe "club sport" beat Drexel's varsity, to ice the tournament. Our bad news is that he will play VB at Rutgers the evening of the Army-Navy Game ... which seems like poor planning to me. They'll go to the game and then leave immediately after, without time for dinner or more than minimal visiting. We're disappointed, but sandwiched between Thanksgiving and Christmas as it is, it'll work. His class work is tough but he seems to be hanging in there with a 3.? something. He reports that the "wages of procrastinating anything is death." Has the hardest time with writing papers, which he did in HS by staying up late at the computer. He's learning to work in smaller segments of time, and seems like he's making progress. He'll fly home for Thanksgiving; we made the arrangements in July. But I'll pick him up for Christmas and take him back. He finishes early through a scheduling fluke, at 1300 on 12/15. His little brother (16) and I will take him back on 1/4, and will stay to watch Navy/Harvard basketball game ... and hopefully be able to watch the Fiesta Bowl together somewhere. He continues to tell funny stories, which is our barometer of what's happening. Halloween was a stitch with "trick or trash." He missed some of it for volleyball tourney. And he "assassinated" a 1/c at dinner ... which includes crawling on your hands and knees under the table ... putting mustard on his dress shoes ... and then getting back to your room before being physically apprehended by the wounded upperclassmen. Evidently the other plebes, noticing an "attempt" underway, do they all can to assist you. Sounds a little like you have to be there to appreciate it ... and his thrill came only after at least one other failed attempt ... and we didn't hear the consequences of that. He went out in a submarine, and loved the food but not the low ceiling. He's 6'2. In short, the "Jakeman" reports the good stuff ... and is quiet about the bad. From our parents group contacts, which have been wonderful, we know our experience is not the same as others, but not unusual either. Little "consoling" to date, (which we miss a little) but also not a great deal of communication. We just keep praying, and sending those cards and letters. A question ... what does one get a young man who has everything as it were ... for christmas? Birthdays? Lastly ... we live in Cols, OH. We had a USNA family from Kansas whom we met watching the parade on parent's weekend stay with us recently when driving to Annapolis. If that could help any of you, or those you know, just let us know. You'd probably deliver a care package for us, and we'll get to know another proud family of a future United States naval officer! We'd be glad to help; it's a humble aboude, but a serious offer. Is there a space limit on these communiques? Hope not. All's well. Hope it is with you and yours Jim & Ann Jacob, 2002. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] *** USNA-NET post by: WILSON Jacob 02 WILSON Jim ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09304 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 06:53:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 06:56:42 -0600 (CST) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: james e wilson cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Checkin' in ... In-Reply-To: <19981102.070315.10950.1.IUdoc@juno.com> Glad to get something on the net. Mustard on the shoes huh?? I will have to inquire as to how many times Brad has attempted that. Brad sends short in frequent emails. He does call every weekend, but not at a regular time. Saturday he called at 6:15AM, "Hi, did I wake you?" I felt it was OK to fib a little. I don't care IF he does wake me. Brad is so busy with the Men's Glee Club practices and preformances. He is also the manager of the Varsity baseball team. He said it was great, no drill and you could go to the ball field and sleep or study. That is in between "doing stuff". One of Brad's roomies got pneumonia and when Brad started feeling stuffy he asked the baseball trainer for something. He was given enough Sudafed to get him through the cold and never had to go to sick call. Brad doesn't get to his Sponsor family's much. He is often tied up on Saturdays getting things done that didn't get done during the week. The Glee Club practices 2 evenings a week and a couple of the performances have been on the weekends in DC. Academically he is fine. He and 14 others had a problem with a paper that the prof game them all zeros on, but they went as a group and got it taken care of so they were regraded. She failed to give them a small detail on the format and the only ones that didn"t get a zero were "NAPERS". I think that is what he called them. He along with the other Catholic Choir members are going to NYC Nov 13 - 15 to sing at St. Patricks Cathedral. They will also be going to New Orleans in Feb. Then in March the Men's Glee Club will go to Europe. So guess what Brad is getting for Christmas and his January birthday? Yep the $600 he needed for the Europe trip. Not bad 14 days, 5 cities ( 4 countries) all meals and lodging for $600. He is happy and anxious to come home. He will be flying home for both holidays. This past weekend he played tour guide for High School students and he was a goulish usher during the Organ Concert Friday night. Ohio isn't on our way to Annapolis, but thanks for the offer. We are in SW Missouri near Branson so our home is open if anyone is down here! I am proud of all our Mids and think we as paernts have the right idea. Be there when they need us and count on each other for the myriad of details our Mids leave out. I do love the mustard!! 23 days and counting!!! I miss Brad! Nancy and Todd P.S. Cody the brother too &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14265 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:49:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:52:45 -0600 From: Lane Trippe Subject: Re: usna-net: Checkin' in ... To: james e wilson Cc: USNA-Net X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Jim & Ann, thank you for "checkin' in". WOW. You made my day. Very similar experiences as to paucity of communication from our plebe, Gus 11th Co., and their tendency (which I admire and don't emulate often enough) not to talk about the negative, just to deal with it. I loved the tale of assassination. I've heard about this honorable tradition from Gus, but never knew someone who actually accomplished it! Have you also heard about the 'cannonballs'? (I can't think of the proper term) -- Apparently, on every table, there are one or two plates of a special 'dessert'. (Never on the menu, just always ominously present...I think they may use the same ones week after week...) These are round pastries about the size of a small fist, filled with an incredibly sweet paste like hard sauce (for plum pudding--without the whiskey). If you make a go for it, you elect to eat a plate full (or two) and then TRY to make a run for your room (or perhaps a bathroom) before 'losing lunch.' Some have made it. I believe the prize is carry-on for a week!? (Fortunately, for my mother's heart, Gus has not tried this...he really doesn't like very sweet stuff.) He has, however, done a 'beat Army' (I think that's the expression) several times: electing to drink at one go whatever the upperclassmen at table put in a waterglass...the description has made me laugh and cry. I didn't know one could drink mayonnaise. (I think the prize is the honor of having done a 'beat Army'.) Haven't heard any tales of trick or trash, except a brief description from the 2001 bulletin-board (not a bad place to visit if you haven't already: at www.usna2001.com ). Apparently, if the upperclass who visit your room don't get or like their treat, they 'rearrange' your room appropriately. This is certainly another opportunity for roommates to work together to see that their offering makes the grade, for the common good. Studying is obviously a huge priority--and time management. This is perhaps one of the biggest differences between our kids and freshmen at your basic civilian college. (I live in the neighborhood of three -- 3 -- colleges/universities in New Orleans, one of which is nationally reknowned as a party school...so I get to see a lot to compare!) You may find, as we did when Gus recently spent the weekend with my family away from the Yard, that Jake is actually a little uncomfortable, hard to relax, in civilian surroundings. Gus said he finds he now prefers military to civilian company. I don't know whether that is the universal & understandable adjustment to (and embrace of) military life, or Gus's own private reaction. Heard from his sponsor, a good guy-- a Marine instructor at the Academy -- that that's typical, and how he felt for a long time. I suspect it's true for many of the midns. I think they spend so much time incredibly focused & prioritized that being around us mere mortal civilians - who waste time prodigiously, and gossip, and carp & gripe - is annoying. It will certainly be interesting to see Gus 'home' on his former turf at T-time and Christmas. Mustard on the shoes, indeed! When I think of how Gus reacts to the slightest blemish on those shoes, it makes me LOL to think of a glob of yellow mustard...especially thinking about them in whites! Must go. Would love to hear from others whatever experiences/tales they can share. By the way if you, and others on the list, know of any young midns (especially but not only plebes) who could use a few home-made cookies (remember, not everyone bakes and not every midn has such voluble support from home), please send me their name/co./mailbox no. (I'm told that including the company no. speeds up mail delivery). Fondly, Lane. *** USNA-NET post by: HAIK Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15740 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:42:30 -0600 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [209.161.34.47] From: "Jeanne O'Hara" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Checking in Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:45:15 PST It was pretty fun to see all the latest news. I was pretty impressed with the notes about the table antics, especially the mustard shoes, drink mayo? I really haven't posted much on this list. My son is C2C Mike Deaver, exchange this semester from USAFA. Mike has really enjoyed USNA this semester. Especially the change in climate, how much humidity can one enjoy? Really though, kayaking in the bay has been fun for him. Friday he heads up to USMA to watch USAFA win. Bets anyone? LOL Talked with Mike on Sat. He really enjoyed the organ concert. You know, he even recognized Phantom, thanks to mom! Jeanne O'Hara Payette Idaho Proud Mom of C2C Mike Deaver, USAFA exchange ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: O'HARA Jeanne Marie 00 ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03224 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:38:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:38:28 -0600 (CST) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: "Jeanne O'Hara" cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Checking in In-Reply-To: <19981103044517.20570.qmail@hotmail.com> Glad to hear Mike is enjoying the "yard". My son, Brad '02 was one of the goulish ushers at the concert Friday night. He said it was great fun! I would guess he might have singled out a "zoomie" to scare! :) Nancy &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03300 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:41:14 -0600 (CST) From: "Sandi Stoker" To: "USNA-Net" Subject: usna-net: One more - checking in Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:41:13 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Since everyone else is "checking in", I thought I would do the same. Mike and I drove to the Academy over the weekend to see my son (Michael '00). From the Cleveland area it is a nice drive of a bit over 6 hours. And the fall folliage (although a bit past prime) was lovely. I am always awed by my first view of the Yard. I related to Mike that, had Michael chosen N D or U of M for his college choice, I would never have set foot on this inspiring and beautiful place. And yet, I feel such a part of it, and always will. Michael's choice has not only changed his life, but in many ways, mine as well. He had to stand watch over the weekend, so our time with him was limited to daylight hours and dinners, but I relished each and every moment. There was plenty of time for talking and catching up. We got into the Navy Store Saturday morning and I was able to get a really nice Jewelry box for Michael that will be part of his Christmas loot. Also a Swarovski crystal figurine that I have been looking at for the past few weeks (in Canada and again in the states) with a 36% savings! What a place!! I had not been there since the expansion and remodeling and it is Huge!! My son, like the majority of the Mids, is not a daily communicator. His e-mails are short and sweet, and his calls average about one a week (hey, I'm not complaining) His attentions are focused on "the job at hand" - his grades, and staying on sup's list. I greatfully accept whatever crumbs he throws my way! :>) BTW He ran in the Marine Corps Marathon in D. C. on Oct 25th and finished in a time of 3 hours 15 minutes. Not enough to qualify him for Boston, but I think the glamour of running marathons is over for him (It is his second). He had forgotten his vest with his assigned number when he packed to go to DC and was given a new vest once he got there - with number 1 on it. He said that whenever any group saw him and his #1 he was heartily cheered!! Made him feel great!! On Thursday evening his company (probably all of the companies) had a Halloween "party". My son laughed as he told us about the various costumes and antics. He went as "The Disco King". (Which was so funny since I had recently seen an old college beau and Mike had dubbed him "Disco Dan"!) Said that it was a really enjoyable time for all. The Yard was alive with people and events: A Concert that we missed, the women's soccer team played Army and, according to my son, beat them for the first time. Mids were everywhere, taking in the sun and warm temps. I could not have ordered a more perfect weekend - weatherwise. And, as I always find, and still amazes me, these young men and women are courteous and caring to everyone they meet. So many of the Mids we passed acknowledged us with a greeting. I wanted to hug every one of them and tell them the hug was from their Mom!! But, I would have looked pretty silly doing that!! Michael will be able to leave the Yard for Thanksgiving on Friday the 20th. He will drive to Cleveland and spend a couple of days with us before he drives to Michigan to see his father. He will be going to area schools for recruitment and PR. He will spend Thanksgiving with his father, so seeing him this past weekend was a real treat, but even after 2 full years of saying good bye to him, it was still so very difficult to watch him return to Mother B. I feel as though I lose him a little more each time. Wake up, Mom! Right? I already have lost him to the Navy (probably Marines). No funny stories of Plebe antics or such, Michael does not say too much, and I don't try to ask too many questions, don't want to sound like a nosy and prying Mom. He tells me what he wants me to know, and I have THIS service to help me learn about the rest. Believe me, an account of the walkover from a Mid's perspective would not sound anywhere as grand as the ones we have read here!!! So, that's my two cents worth. Mike and I had a wonderful time and the good news is that Nordstroms was out of his size in the pair of shoes Michael had wanted Mom to buy for him. (They were a mere $175, so Mom did not have to look the bad guy when she chose (and she would have) NOT to pay that much for a pair of ugly brown "wingtips"!!!!) :>) Sandi - Michael Stoker, Class of 2000 FYI - Because of the website that Mike and I put together for the Northeast Ohio Naval Academy Parents' Club (www.neonap.org) we were asked to (get this) participate in the formation of a Friends and Family Bicentennial Site for West Point. (Bicentennial is 2002) We have had a lot of fun in working with a group of about 6 others to get this site ready for the web. It was announced on November the 1st. Not quite done, yet, but still a nice site (and I think the best site that the Army in general has to offer-but that's just MY opinion!) If anyone is interested it's address is: http://www.west-point.org/family/bicent I created the background for the site (there really was not anything that we could pull from other Army sites that we liked) so I feel a special link to it. *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03767 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:08:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 08:11:23 -0600 From: Lane Trippe Subject: Re: usna-net: One more - checking in To: Sandi Stoker Cc: USNA-Net X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sandi, thank you. I was on the Yard for a few minutes, in the midst of those bright, courteous and helpful midns we do recognize from your wonderful recounting. Thanks for the time and care (and talent) it took to send us thirsty parents that deep drink of water. Lane. *** USNA-NET post by: HAIK Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04034 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:18:38 -0600 (CST) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:23:37 -0500 Subject: IUdoc: Re: usna-net: One more - checking in X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-7,10-14 From: iudoc@juno.com (james e wilson) --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: IUdoc To: jsandi@mail.com Subject: Re: usna-net: One more - checking in Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:20:46 -0500 References: <004901be072f$a270a060$2902d4cd@oemcomputer> Thanks for the newsy update .... I love hearing about what the "uppers" are doing ...and, like you, feel an odd kinship through all this process. Thanks for sharing! Jim & Ann Wilson Jake, 2002 --------- End forwarded message ---------- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] *** USNA-NET post by: WILSON Jacob 02 WILSON Jim ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12396 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:11:49 -0600 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [198.209.19.211] From: "Sherrie Bayer" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: checking in Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 07:13:36 PST I just thought I would check in also. Regarding assasination: My Mid told me about this several weeks ago. He says it usually occurs on Fridays. Things get really crazy because the weekend is near. According to Brett '02, a plebe gets a bottle of honey (I guess some use mustard) and crawls on the floor, under the table, whatever to get to the "chosen firstie." Other plebes create diversions so the assasinator is not discovered. If he is spotted crawling on the floor, uppers douse him with their drinks. However, if the assasinator makes it, he pours honey on those lovely polished leather shoes and returns to his spot at the table where he stands on his chair and announces, "Attention Company (number), Mr. So and So has been assasinated!" Brett has also had the dubious pleasure of downing a "Beat Army." He says the barbecue sauce and tabasco really make it sting. He and his roomies bought $40 worth of candy for "trick or trash." They had a few visits and then got the bright idea of trading nameplates with the uppers across the hall. After that they had very few visitors! He now has a shoebox full of fun size candy. I guess I won't have to send a care package for awhile. We get a phone call once a week--I'm thankful for 800 numbers--and a short email--usually replies to questions and some information just about every day. Brett has had his ups and downs, and I think it helps to have an outside perspective on things. We knew very little about military life--except for what we saw in the movies!! : -) So this has been an adjustment for all of us. We keep encouraging him and assuring him that he can do this! He said the happiness factor is now about 1/6--the number of days of leave (4) divided by the number of days remaining until leave (24 at that time). He also said you can feel the happiness factor beginning to sweep the brigade. I think they are all ready to come home and Brett's 3 younger brothers along with mom and dad are ready for him to be here too! It's just 3 weeks from tomorrow. Thanks for all the info and support. Sherrie Brett '02 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: BAYER Brett 02 BAYER Bing&Sherrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29892 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:33:01 -0600 (CST) From: Deb Hefner To: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: Another check-in! Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:39:18 -0500 Hi, I haven't written in awhile but couldn't resist after reading all of = the wonderful news from everyone. I had tears streaming down my face a = few times, too. Our son Kris, '02, seems to really be doing well. His goal is to make = the sup's list. He's looking forward to some extra leave. He plays = intramural basketball 3 or 4 times a week and also practices with the = Navy Karate Team. He has practiced Tae Kwon Do since he was 6 years = old. We have an 800# so he calls almost every night. I get a "good morning" = e-mail every morning. This is in place of the hug that I used to get = when he was here. It's great! I think we actually communicate more now = than when he lived here! I still miss him though, sometimes I will just = start crying for no apparent reason, usually when I read an e-mail or = hear a song, or just out of the blue. =20 My husband John and I have visited the Yard several times. It's nice to = know your way around so you can relate to places they are talking about. = We also have a complete wardrobe of Navy apparel. In fact, I plan on = doing most of my Christmas shopping at the Mid Store. The CDs of the = Navy Choir and Glee Club are wonderful! We are learning all of the Navy = songs. The Naval Academy Choir sang at our little historic Smoot = Theatre in Parkersburg, WV last year. We are hoping they will return = this year and we can host a few of the members for a night or two. =20 We are counting down the days till Thanksgiving break, 22 until we pick = him up on the Yard. We will have turkey and all of the trimmings at our = house. All of the family and friends are invited. I think Kris is most = anxious about getting home and driving his car! That was one of the = hardest things for him going in...not being able to drive. He is also = anxious to crank up his electric guitar and amplifier! Oh I can't = wait!!!! It's really great to hear from all of you and to know that we are not = alone. =20 Deb Hefner =20 PS...Sandi, cool web site for USMA! Our son Mike is USMA '94! He is = finishing his committment to the Army at Ft. Campbell, Ky and will be = out next March! *** USNA-NET post by: HEFNER John&Deb 02 HEFNER Kristopher ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA13293 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:37:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 02:43:00 -0800 From: Art & Gerri Ball Organization: . To: usnanet list server Subject: usna-net: checking in from Gerri Hi everyone: WOW what a great site. My friends are so tired of hearing what a wonderful mid I have. But I can brag and relate to everone here. Since I am new at this and just posted a "hello" last week some of you asked me to elaborate. Welll my son Arthur is class of 01, an enginering major and just made the boxing team to travel. I wish he would have picked a better sport , but has always liked the rough and tough.Wrestled in high school, but didn't want to wrestle at the academy and went into boxing. Doing much better academically then as a plebe, says he isn't as emotionally drained as he was when he was a plebe and can now get in a routine. He says he definitely has to get out of his room and to the library to study. His emails are sparce, but we both have downloaded AOL Instant messagener and talk a lot on that in the evenings. That is great because I can save and print our conversations for his dad and brother to read. I don't get to the yard as much as I would like and the invitation from a layover in Ohio is great. I drove up from St.Louis Mo for Hearndon last May and took my mother with me. A very long drive indeed, about 15 hours with stops. Anyone passing thru St.Louis is welcome to stay. Have a twin bed and a couch pull out, won't be the Ritz but we could talk "mids" all you want. Of course give me as much notice so I can clean"Ha Ha". It was funny to hear about the funny things. Arthur pulled the mustard trick when he was a plebel, I forgot if he succeed. He is pretty open about things. Getting a little stale on somethings at the yard. Very upset about the weekend policy, he is still "whinny" about that. I trys to get weekends but then some of his friends have problems and things don't work out. I think he is very homesick. Last saw him on June 26 when he headed back to the yard. Coming home for Christmas and Thanksgiving , have to get his xmas tickets asap,almost forgot. Arthur is determined to go Navy Seals, anyone else out there with any SEALS. I am newsletter editor for our local newsletter. Any tips would help for the newsletter . Well take care and I check regularly *** USNA-NET post by: BALL Arthur 01 BALL Gerri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA19665 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 04:22:32 -0600 (CST) From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" To: "Jeanne O'Hara" , Subject: Re: usna-net: Checking in Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:23:49 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Jeanne, Glad Mike is enjoying USNA. That's a real honor to be selected for exchange. You must be duly proud. I, too, will be rooting for a BIG FALCON win over Army, plus three more WAC wins!! Gregg USAFA '74 USNA Sponsor, '00, '01, '02 Gregg Steinhilpert steinhilpert@74.usafa.org www.usna.org -----Original Message----- From: Jeanne O'Hara To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 11:47 PM Subject: usna-net: Checking in It was pretty fun to see all the latest news. I was pretty impressed with the notes about the table antics, especially the mustard shoes, drink mayo? I really haven't posted much on this list. My son is C2C Mike Deaver, exchange this semester from USAFA. Mike has really enjoyed USNA this semester. Especially the change in climate, how much humidity can one enjoy? Really though, kayaking in the bay has been fun for him. Friday he heads up to USMA to watch USAFA win. Bets anyone? LOL Talked with Mike on Sat. He really enjoyed the organ concert. You know, he even recognized Phantom, thanks to mom! Jeanne O'Hara Payette Idaho Proud Mom of C2C Mike Deaver, USAFA exchange ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: O'HARA Jeanne Marie 00 *** USNA-NET post by: MITCHELL Zach 02 STEINHILPERT Gregg&Carrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26291 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 06:48:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 06:51:12 -0600 From: Lane Trippe Subject: Re: usna-net: checking in from Gerri To: Art & Gerri Ball , USNA-Net X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Art & Gerri: Glad to know that this "problem" of being proud to bursting of our midn sons and daughters doesn't go away, but lasts well into youngster year! We, too, have a 'rough & tough' son whose life goal (since age 12) has been to become a Navy SEAL...(only since 14 has he been focused also on attending the Naval Academy). What company is Arthur in? (Gus is 11th, on 7-0) If Arthur went back on June 26, does that mean he was a detailer? How did he enjoy that? (By any chance did he help train Foxtrot--11/12 company?) Your invite is lovely! If I drive up to USNA (would probably be for Herndon), I will call ahead! I don't think New Orleans is exactly a stopover for anyone driving to USNA, but all midns and family members are welcome to stay, visit, call when you find yourself here in New Orleans, or contemplating a trip. I'd love to show you around, visit, point you in some good directions if you're visiting or on business...Sincerely, Lane. *** USNA-NET post by: HAIK Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09952 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:31:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 02:36:26 -0800 From: Art & Gerri Ball Organization: . To: usnanet list server Subject: usna-net: from Gerri re:Herndon Joyce E Howland: Asked if I thought the drive to see Herndon was worth it. Most definetely!!!I was not sure I could go since my husband and younger son couldn't make and anyway Arthur was due home less than a week after that. Well let me tell you , he was so disappointed when he heard we weren't coming. HERNDON IS A BIG DEAL TO THE PLEBES. In a way , it is their graduation. It means a lot more to them, than I realized. So i found a way to go, and he was thrilled. We did get time to spend with him and Herndon, they pretty much had liberty that weekend and we loved it. Don't miss Sunday Services they were fantastic. It was Baccalarate (sp?) that weekend. WARNING. Check websites for activities. We missed an awesome Dress Parade, because Arthur forgot to tell us. Also he did not check email that weekend and missed the notice for dress whites for Sunday Services and was not allowed in If you can bring a lawn chair to Herndon, it is often Hot and long. DO NOT TRY TO GET A SEAT CLOSE TO THE HERNDON MONUMENT. To many spectators, and you get stepped on and everyone blocks your view. Up on the chapel steps is great or on the lawn next to the chapel. We got video's and it still is amazing to look at. Arthur never got to see the "before " pictures of Herndon all greased up before it was attacked. Also be sure to by the local papers that weekend. Some great pictures of Herndon for scrapebooks. Take a small cooler of drinks, water etc. it is a long afternoon. BUT BY ALL MEANS GO!!!! Gerri *** USNA-NET post by: BALL Arthur 01 BALL Gerri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25197 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:40:49 -0600 (CST) From: PBombach@aol.com Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:43:08 EST To: usnanet list server Subject: usna-net: Herndon Gerri Ball gave great comments and suggestions regarding Herndon. If at all possible, plebe parents 'should' attend. This is one of the few plebe activities that the parents can actually share with their mid. You will want to be in place by about noon for the 1400 action. This school year Herndon is on Friday, May 21, 1999. The formal dedication parade on Worden field is that morning and the Herndon assault is that afternoon. The schedule for Commissioning week activities is on the USNA website. As of now the schedule on the website is the one for last year, however the schedule remains about the same from year to year. This year Commissioning Week goes back to a Friday through Wed. week. Commissioning is on Wed., May 26. Most Firstie families spend the entire week in the Annapolis area, so housing can be tight. If you don't have housing for Herndon already, you do need to take care of that right away. Many of our local families have chosen to take Commissioning Week as a family vacation each year. There are activities each day, the mids are required to be at all of the activities, but there is still a lot of free time. Generally there is liberty each day and evening. The Blue Angels rehearsal and performance is a delight for anyone not used to seeing them perform. The plebe updates have been great reading. In addition to the current mustard and honey being used for King Hall assassinations, my Firstie had to use chocolate sauce during his plebe year. The last successful cannonball run (consumption) was done by a '99er. Somehow that kid never tossed his cookies. I don't think that he has ever had another cannonball though. This is 'X' (exam) week for the mids, so the plebes are probably busy with tests and papers. After this week, Thanksgiving holiday becomes very real. Enjoy those holidays. Pam Bombach Brent '99 *** USNA-NET post by: BOMBACH Pam 99 BOMBACH Brent ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25627 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:08:49 -0600 (CST) From: "Courtni Wright" To: "usnanet list server" Subject: usna-net: Re: first cruise Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:11:18 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 I'd really appreciate information regarding the events of my mid's first summer cruise. When do they have leave? When does the cruise begin? Are there required military training sessions? How much free time will they have? Should I plan on seeing him during the month of June or is late July/early August more realistic? When the mids are on the Yard, will they have free time on weekends? Thanks, Courtni Wright Ashley, '02 *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14119 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:47:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:48:50 -0500 From: "Joseph W. Bartish" Organization: ProBar To: USNA Net Subject: usna-net: Summer Blocks --------------7FFF9E37EE0262CB8E699A5D Hi = I am responding after reading Courtini's question regarding Summer Blocks. Your Mid has 3 Summer Blocks that cover the Summer time frame. It is luck of the draw, and there is no set rotation. The 1st Block could Cruise, 2nd Block Training, and 3rd Block Leave; or 1st Block, Training, 2nd Block Leave, and 3rd Block, Cruise; or it could be 1st Block, Leave, 2nd Block Cruise, and 3rd Block, Trainig. Unless the Mid has Summer SChool, the rotation could be anything like the above. Do not plan anything until you know your Mid's Summer Schedule. The one item that will be affected is Leave. Of my Son Jay's (LT, USN, '93) 3 Summer Blocks (Youngster, Flamer,and Firstie), the 1 item that was most impacted was Leave. Out of those 3 years, he actually had a full Leave Block once - his Flamer Summer! Under normal circumstances, there will not be much free time. The YARD supposedly passed out to each Plebe Parent the past few years, a Parents' Handbook. Evidently people have not read the document because items like these are covered therein. What I did when my son was accepted was devour everything that was sent regarding the YARD; in additon to doing additonal research on my own. Also, based upon experiences of our S/E PA Mids, our Parents' Club maintains our own 75-Page Handbook which we update annually, provide to all incoming Plebe Families, not just the ones that join our S/E PA Parents' Association, and encourage them to read and understand its content. Hopefully this will give some idea regarding Summer Blocks. The Blocks do get more complicated as your Mid advances along his/her tour at the YARD. Thanks :>) See Ya! Joe B, '93 Parent Go NAVY . . . Beat army! --------------7FFF9E37EE0262CB8E699A5D Hi = I am responding after reading Courtini's question regarding Summer Blocks. Your Mid has 3 Summer Blocks that cover the Summer time frame. It is luck of the draw, and there is no set rotation. The 1st Block could Cruise, 2nd Block Training, and 3rd Block Leave; or 1st Block, Training, 2nd Block Leave, and 3rd Block, Cruise; or it could be 1st Block, Leave, 2nd Block Cruise, and 3rd Block, Trainig. Unless the Mid has Summer SChool, the rotation could be anything like the above. Do not plan anything until you know your Mid's Summer Schedule. The one item that will be affected is Leave. Of my Son Jay's (LT, USN, '93) 3 Summer Blocks (Youngster, Flamer,and Firstie), the 1 item that was most impacted was Leave. Out of those 3 years, he actually had a full Leave Block once - his Flamer Summer! Under normal circumstances, there will not be much free time. The YARD supposedly passed out to each Plebe Parent the past few years, a Parents' Handbook. Evidently people have not read the document because items like these are covered therein. What I did when my son was accepted was devour everything that was sent regarding the YARD; in additon to doing additonal research on my own. Also, based upon experiences of our S/E PA Mids, our Parents' Club maintains our own 75-Page Handbook which we update annually, provide to all incoming Plebe Families, not just the ones that join our S/E PA Parents' Association, and encourage them to read and understand its content. Hopefully this will give some idea regarding Summer Blocks. The Blocks do get more complicated as your Mid advances along his/her tour at the YARD. Thanks :>) See Ya!

Joe B, '93 Parent
Go NAVY . . . Beat army!
--------------7FFF9E37EE0262CB8E699A5D-- *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18032 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:57:49 -0600 (CST) From: "Courtni Wright" To: "USNA Net" Subject: usna-net: Re: Summer Blocks Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:00:19 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE08FF.4BF6C9E0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE08FF.4BF6C9E0 charset="iso-8859-1" It's good to hear the realities of life from experienced parents. I've = found since becoming a plebe parent and reading the handbook thoroughly = that there's a big difference between the actual and the written word at = the Academy on many subjects not just summer blocks. In this case, the = handbook would lead us to believe that our mids have summer leave of a = designated number of weeks unless they attend summer school. The = Parents' Club web pages give the same impression. However, Joe B's post = makes it clear that a discrepancy exists between the statement of policy = and the practice of it. Reading the handbook does not appear to be the = answer in all cases. With the new superintendent making changes in many = areas, I suppose I'll have to wait and see what happens with summer = blocks. I certainly won't purchase any cheap nonrefundable airline = tickets. Courtni Ashley '02 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE08FF.4BF6C9E0 charset="iso-8859-1"

It's good to hear the realities of = life from=20 experienced parents. I've found since becoming a plebe parent and = reading=20 the handbook thoroughly that there's a big difference between the actual = and the=20 written word at the Academy on many subjects not just summer = blocks. In=20 this case, the handbook would lead us to believe that our mids have = summer leave=20 of a designated number of weeks unless they attend summer school. The = Parents'=20 Club web pages give the same impression. However, Joe B's post = makes it=20 clear that a discrepancy exists between the statement of policy and the = practice=20 of it. Reading the handbook does not appear to be the answer in = all=20 cases. With the new superintendent making changes in many areas, I = suppose=20 I'll have to wait and see what happens with summer blocks. I = certainly=20 won't purchase any cheap nonrefundable airline tickets.

Courtni

Ashley = '02

------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE08FF.4BF6C9E0-- *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22994 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:16:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:19:02 -0600 From: Lane Trippe Subject: usna-net: Looking for USNA pilot journal To: USNA-Net X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02E9_01BE0901.E9548400" X-MSMail-priority: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02E9_01BE0901.E9548400 charset="iso-8859-1" I am looking for the link to the (extraordinary) diary/journal of a USNA = grad (I believe he was 97 or 98?) as he progressed through pilot = training at USAFA and possibly one other airbase? He finished end of = August or early September of this year, and I think this was published = soon after. I believe I saw and accessed the site about 3-4 weeks ago. = Now I can't find the link or mention anywhere. 'Thought I saw it on = www.usna2001.com, but I've checked with the webmaster and it didn't ring = a bell. =20 At a seminar today (literally at the elevator) I ran into the father of = a USNA 97 grad now completing his pilot training, and I told him about = the journal... He was very interested and I told him I'd try to = recapture the link. Any info would be much appreciated. Thanks, Lane ------=_NextPart_000_02E9_01BE0901.E9548400 charset="iso-8859-1"

I am looking for the link to the (extraordinary) diary/journal of a = USNA=20 grad (I believe he was 97 or 98?) as he progressed through pilot = training at=20 USAFA and possibly one other airbase? He finished end of = August or=20 early September of this year, and I think this was published soon = after. I=20 believe I saw and accessed the site about 3-4 weeks ago. Now I = can't find=20 the link or mention anywhere. 'Thought I saw it on www.usna2001.com, but I've checked = with the=20 webmaster and it didn't ring a bell.

At a seminar today = (literally at the=20 elevator) I ran into the father of a USNA 97 grad now completing his = pilot=20 training, and I told him about the journal... He was very = interested and I=20 told him I'd try to recapture the link. Any info would be = much=20 appreciated. Thanks, Lane

------=_NextPart_000_02E9_01BE0901.E9548400-- *** USNA-NET post by: HAIK Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16823 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:51:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 08:56:30 -0800 From: Art & Gerri Ball Organization: . To: usnanet list server Subject: usna-net: Gerri:Summer Blocks Hi; Joseph B. was right about summer blocks after Plebe Year. It is luck of the draw and you won't know what plans to make till your Plebe gets his schedule. They had 4 blocks last year summer of 98. The blocks were 3 weeks long. I do know of a good number of mids who got 2 blocks of leave back to back. Arthur (01) was home the first six weeks after Plebe summer , then had his 3 block (NTT) Naval Tactical Training=(good accurate description in the handbook) back at the Yard. He said he had very little free time and was very tired. It is a three week introduction into the other aspects of Navy life, Marines, SEALS, Air, etc. Then after that he left for his cruiese which took him to Boston and New York harbor for three weeks. He had a weekend free but had a blast exploring New York as a young single Navy "guy", I think if we had been there to see him(which I thought about,) it would have put a damper on his weekend. It was great having him home for six weeks but sent him back to the yard very early in the summer and it has been a long time in seeing him. If you are going to Herndon in get your hotels ASAP, if you can't get close go a little ways and then just rent a car. Hotel rates are cheaper, and then if you rent a car, it works about the same. We could always find a place to park even if we had to walk to the yard. You can also usually park at the Stadium and get the shuttle in. But look into hotels NOW. Gerri Exams are here. I find the gift certificate program from the DryDock a great idea(not sure if Plebes, can go there by themself, check it out) I find that Arthur often skips meals to study, then is hungry, so he can then go to the DryDock and get food. They offter them in $5.00 increments and can be charged. Their phone number is410-293-2434 They will then deliver to the rooms. PLEBE parent's be sure that your mid can go to the DryDock. I think after their plebe summer they can. Arthur also exists on Gatorade and Instant Oatmeal cereal. But he has access to the microwave in the wardroom, that a plebe wouldn't be caught near. So be carefull with what you send.Gerri *** USNA-NET post by: BALL Arthur 01 BALL Gerri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17324 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:16:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:20:14 -0600 (CST) From: Nancy Patterson X-Sender: npatters@orionc0 To: Art & Gerri Ball cc: usnanet list server Subject: Re: usna-net: Gerri:Summer Blocks In-Reply-To: <36432A3D.59BE53FD@pop.primary.net> Thanks for the helpful info. I know Brad (plebe) and his roomies frequent the Drydock on Sunday's after Mass. Not sure IF he is supposed to but he has been doing it for some time now. Everyone has referred to this Parent Handbook. I have turned the house upside down and have no such item. Does ANYONE have any idea the easiest, fastest way to get one? Thanks and everyone enjoy your wonderful day! My Plebe will be home in 19 days so I am in the final countdown! I can't wait. :) Nancy &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& & Nancy A. Patterson & & npatters@mail.orion.org & & (417) 743-2327 & & :-) & & I <3 PURPLE & &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25227 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:24:44 -0600 (CST) From: "Jon Herrell" To: "Nancy Patterson" , "Art & Gerri Ball" Cc: "usnanet list server" Subject: Re: usna-net: Gerri:Summer Blocks Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:26:16 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 You may want to go to the Central Florida site at http://www.fla-homes.com/centfl~1.html and then go to the Plebe Parents Survival Guide section and look at our Plebe Parents Survival Guide or print it out if you wish. It is updated annually. Jon Herrell -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Patterson To: Art & Gerri Ball Cc: usnanet list server Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 9:36 AM Subject: Re: usna-net: Gerri:Summer Blocks >Thanks for the helpful info. I know Brad (plebe) and his roomies frequent >the Drydock on Sunday's after Mass. Not sure IF he is supposed to but he >has been doing it for some time now. >Everyone has referred to this Parent Handbook. I have turned the house >upside down and have no such item. Does ANYONE have any idea the easiest, >fastest way to get one? >Thanks and everyone enjoy your wonderful day! My Plebe will be home in 19 >days so I am in the final countdown! I can't wait. :) >Nancy > >&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& >& Nancy A. Patterson & >& npatters@mail.orion.org & >& (417) 743-2327 & >& :-) & >& I <3 PURPLE & >&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& > > >*** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy > >_________________________________________________________________ >Keep up the dream! Support the cause. > >Your financial contribution is needed to help continue WP-ORG's >work. Please visit http://www.West-Point.Org/donate/ >or contact feedback@west-point.org for additional information. > >Contributions should be sent to: WP-ORG, PO Box 609, Moneta, VA 24121 > > > *** USNA-NET post by: HERRELL Russ 96 HERRELL Jon ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09155 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:50:24 -0600 (CST) From: CMELLO5523@aol.com Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:53:06 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Herndon 1999 I called Annapolis Accommodations today to book a room for our visit to the Yard in May. (We've used them twice, and they have been very pleasant and helpful) I was told by the customer service person, "Breezy" that her boss had been informed that the date for Herndon was changing to the 24th. Does anyone else know anything about this. According to Annapolis Accd. they were in contact with the Academy today. I guess Herndon is usually the Monday before graduation. Is this correct? The Academy web page shows Herndon on the 21st on their calendar. However, I understand we're in the Navy now! And expect changes to schedules. Hopefully we can get the straight answer soon as I understand that time is of the essence for booking as soon as possible Mary Mello Charles, 02, 1st company *** USNA-NET post by: MELLO Charles 02 MELLO Mary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20172 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 13:19:40 -0600 (CST) From: "Greg Stimis" To: Subject: usna-net: New Members - Greg and Gale Stimis Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 13:23:51 -0600 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE0A51.DBD8CD80" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE0A51.DBD8CD80 charset="iso-8859-1" Was on-line yesterday and came across the NEONAP webpage. I read about = USNA-NET and thought it sounded interesting. After I signed up, I was = discussing the service with local USMA parents who have used it for some = time. The "Mom" loves it but advised that, on occasion, they have had = to verify information received. She said that information received from = Cadets (and, I'm sure, Mids) is sometimes "rumor-driven" and not always = accurate. As a matter of introduction: Our son (Robert) entered USNA directly from high school (Catholic HS, = Little Rock - all male) and turned 18 during Plebe Summer. He told us = that the Naval Academy Summer Seminar (which he attended the previous = summer) was one of the best recruiting tools that USNA offers, as he was = (almost) able to see what USNA is really like. He didn't seem to suffer = too much during Plebe Summer (physically and/or emotionally) and lost = less than 5 pounds. (He did follow the recommended Physical Training = schedule USNA provided prior to I-Day.) His roommates are from NY and = Indiana, so his horizons are certainly broadening. =20 He is in the 29th Company and is playing rugby (which he loves and we = don't yet understand fully). It seems to me that USNA really wants to retain everyone who is admitted = and wants to be there. We tried not to push him into choosing USNA and = often sang the virtues of NROTC (a real college life, with similar = benefits), but he was committed. =20 The separation hasn't seemed to bother him as much as it has Gale and = me. We are looking forward to hearing from other subscribers and have sent = information re USNA-NET to other Arkansas parents. Greg and Gale Stimis =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE0A51.DBD8CD80 charset="iso-8859-1"

Was on-line yesterday and came = across the NEONAP=20 webpage. I read about USNA-NET and thought it sounded = interesting. =20 After I signed up, I was discussing the service with local USMA parents = who have=20 used it for some time. The "Mom" loves it but advised = that, on=20 occasion, they have had to verify information received. She said = that=20 information received from Cadets (and, I'm sure, Mids) is sometimes=20 "rumor-driven" and not always accurate.

As a matter of = introduction:

Our son (Robert) entered USNA = directly from high=20 school (Catholic HS, Little Rock - all male) and turned 18 during Plebe=20 Summer. He told us that the Naval Academy Summer Seminar (which he = attended the previous summer) was one of the best recruiting tools that = USNA=20 offers, as he was (almost) able to see what USNA is really like. = He didn't=20 seem to suffer too much during Plebe Summer (physically and/or = emotionally) and=20 lost less than 5 pounds. (He did follow the recommended Physical = Training=20 schedule USNA provided prior to I-Day.) His roommates are from NY = and=20 Indiana, so his horizons are certainly = broadening.

He is in the 29th Company and is = playing rugby=20 (which he loves and we don't yet understand fully).

It seems to me that USNA really = wants to retain=20 everyone who is admitted and wants to be there. We tried not to = push him=20 into choosing USNA and often sang the virtues of NROTC (a real college = life,=20 with similar benefits), but he was committed.

The separation hasn't seemed to = bother him as=20 much as it has Gale and me.

We are looking forward to hearing = from other=20 subscribers and have sent information re USNA-NET to other Arkansas=20 parents.

Greg and Gale=20 Stimis =

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--------------496184633AB85B7E3C89F4BC-- *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05842 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:03:42 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: dcarter@pop1.trib.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 05:07:12 -0600 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: "Alan B. Sterneckert" (by way of Dan Carter) Subject: usna-net: Stumbles I thougt you'd find this of interest. In one of my assignments as a young infantry officer, I was sent to the 48th Infantry near Frankfurt, Germany. In those days our prize weapon was a huge 280-mm atomic cannon. Guarded by infantry platoons, these guns were hauled around the forests on trucks to keep the Soviets from guessing their location. One day Captain Tom Miller assigned my platoon to guard a 280. I alerted my men, loaded my .45 caliber pistol and jumped into my jeep. I had not gone far when I realized that my .45 was gone. I was petrified. In the army, losing a weapon is serious business. I had no choice but to radio Captain Miller and tell him. "You what?" he said in disbelief. He paused a few seconds, then added, "All right, continue the mission." When I returned, uneasily contemplating my fate, Miller called me over. "I've got something for you," he said, handing me the pistol. "Some kids in the village found it where it fell out of your holster." "Kids found it?" I felt a cold chill. "Yeah," he said. "Luckily they only got off one round before we heard the shot and took the gun away." The disastrous possibilities left me limp. "For God's sake, son, don't let that happen again." He drove off. I checked the magazine and found it was full. The gun had not been fired. Later I learned that I had dropped it in my tent before I ever got started. Miller had fabricated the scene about the kids to give me a good scare. Today the army might hold an investigation, call in lawyers and likely enter a bad mark on my record. Miller gave me the chance to learn from my mistake. His example of intelligent leadership was not lost on me. Nobody ever got to the top without slipping up. When someone stumbles, I don't believe in stomping on him. My philosophy is "Pick 'em up, dust 'em off and get 'em moving again." By Colin Powell from A Cup of Chicken Soup for the Soul Copyright 1996 by Jack Canfield, Mark Victor Hansen & Barry Spilchuk *** USNA-NET post by: ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23549 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:46:43 -0600 (CST) From: RPass17612@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:49:29 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: navy- notre dame game our son wes' 02 is in the color guard. we were all set to watch and tape the game today only to find out it would not be in our area. if anybody taped it and got the beginning with the color guard instead of a commercial, we'd love to have a copy of the tape. we would be more than happy to pay expenses. thanks so much. if the parents of the zoomie that was selling kisses for a $1 at halftime at the homecoming (colgate) game is on the net, i have a picture and would be ever so glad to share it with you. send me your address. He was such a good sport and had no trouble selling his kisses--the girls were waiting. we love hearing from other parents. lynn and jerry pass *** USNA-NET post by: PASS Richard 02 PASS Jerry&Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10969 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:01:07 -0600 (CST) From: DolfnJudy@aol.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:03:45 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Cc: latham@norfolk.infi.net Subject: usna-net: The Cycle Starts Again - '03 Officially Represented! Fellow USNA-NET Members, I'd like to announce that we have subscribed our first "official" member for the class of '03. As indicated by the enclosed message from his mother, Connor Latham has accepted his appointment to USNA. Via a copy of this message, I'm asking Sandy to tell us a little bit about herself and Connor by addressing a message to usna-net@navy-usna.org As you know, this is an exciting time for the new candidates' parents and there will be lots of questions raised regarding prospective plebe issues. In anticipation of this, a new listserver, USNA-PLEBE, has been established to handle that type of traffic. Experience has shown that the volume of traffic from enthused new parents can grow to be substantial. That is fine for some "old salts" but others find the message volume to be excessive. By adding a second listserver to handle this type of E-Mail, both legitimate needs can be properly served. Either or both (USNA-NET / USNA-PLEBE) will be able to be joined or not by everyone at their option! Hopefully this arrangement will go far to reduce the tensions produced by the "chatter vs non-chatter" issue which many of you have raised to me in private correspondence. I had intended to announce this new listserver in early January since that is about the time when I anticipate the volume of this type of traffic will begin to grow. By that time, I hope that a currently being developed automation effort will be in place to handle the add / change / delete functions. Fankly, this clerical task requires a GREAT DEAL of my time . . . which is in short supply! Also, this "no-brain" function is best handled by a web site. Please bear with me on introduction of USNA-PLEBE for another couple of months. We are making progress and I'd like to adhere to the original planned schedule for introduction of this capability. I'm just giving you some advanced notice . . . and letting you know that opposing desires for "reduced traffic" and "full participation" are being addressed! Again, I hope that you all join me in welcoming Sandy to the group. "The cycle begins again!" Hopefully our planned future environment will provide the needed capability to address the many signficant issues she and other '03 parents will be raising! Best regards, Dolf << Subj: USNA-NET Date: 11/12/98 3:17:55 PM Eastern Standard Time From: latham@norfolk.infi.net (Kevin J. Latham) To: dolfnjudy@aol.com Hi, Guess I did not actually say, but, yes , Conor has already accepted his appointment to the Class of 2003. Do I seem overly anxious or enthusiastic?!! Sandi Latham >> *** USNA-NET post by: BEIL Dolf Moderator ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Return-Path: by westpoint.west-point.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11759 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:54:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:56:45 -0600 From: Lane Trippe Subject: usna-net: On the threshold USNA To: latham@norfolk.infi.net Cc: USNA-Net X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE107E.40CDB7A0" X-MSMail-priority: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE107E.40CDB7A0 charset="iso-8859-1" WELCOME. I was in your shoes (a little less than) a year ago. My son = is now making his way thru the plebe year that your son (and you) will = soon experience. What an exhilarating, frustrating & forbearing time = lies ahead of you! Feel free to address any and all concerns to the = other parents on the USNA and (soon to start up) USNA-PLEBE Net! It's a = new and different world you're about to enter, unless of course you are = already a Navy (or other military) family. Perhaps, even if you are = military, it's still a very new world. Best to you. AND = CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR SON for his tremendous accomplishment, and = achieving what has no doubt been the goal of years of dedication and = discipline. (That dedication and discipline -- and physical = conditioning -- will get him thru plebe summer and the ensuing year.) = Look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Lane Trippe (son, Midn 4/C = (Gus) Haik, ' 02, 11th Co.) New Orleans, LA. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE107E.40CDB7A0 charset="iso-8859-1"

WELCOME. I was in your shoes = (a little=20 less than) a year ago. My son is now making his way thru the plebe = year=20 that your son (and you) will soon experience. What an = exhilarating,=20 frustrating & forbearing time lies ahead of you! Feel free to = address=20 any and all concerns to the other parents on the USNA and (soon to start = up)=20 USNA-PLEBE Net! It's a new and different world you're about to = enter,=20 unless of course you are already a Navy (or other military) = family. =20 Perhaps, even if you are military, it's still a very new world. = Best to=20 you. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR SON for his tremendous = accomplishment,=20 and achieving what has no doubt been the goal of years of dedication and = discipline. (That dedication and discipline -- and physical = conditioning=20 -- will get him thru plebe summer and the ensuing year.) Look = forward to=20 hearing from you. Sincerely, Lane Trippe (son, Midn 4/C (Gus) = Haik, '=20 02, 11th Co.) New Orleans,=20 LA.