~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA21447 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:20:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 12:27:28 -0800 From: Art & Gerri Ball Organization: . To: usnanet list server Subject: usna-net: Help:Boxing Parents Help -- Are there any boxing parents out there that can tell when Brigade Reginonals are/where? My son Arthur Ball Class of 02 is on the boxing team and won't know till after the Regionals whether he is coming home for spring break or going to Colorado, with the Boxing Club. Anyone know if this information is posted anywhere? I checked the USNA homepage but since this is a club sport I didn't see anything. Any great ideas for last minute airfares? Anyone driving from the Academy ot St.Louis or close? I could meet half way. Any ideas ? This maybe a fruitless search, since he may win and will go to Colorado. But I like a Plan B. Did anyone ever post a message reply about a shuttle or transportation from Washington, Dulles to the Academy. Thanks Gerri. Have enjoyed all the communications and thanks for the information about the Discovery Channel airing, our son Arthur was a plebe when they were there and they interviewd him at length and followed his company around Plebe summer. I was looking for when it would air. Keep us posted on new information. Thanks Gerri Ball *** USNA-NET post by: BALL Arthur 01 BALL Gerri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22008 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:38:16 -0600 (CST) From: PBombach@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:41:34 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Cc: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: DCA Shuttle Service I There is a shuttle from DCA that can be reserved for a transport to USNA. It is the Super Shuttle. I'll try looking for the number on the internet, because I haven't had a chance to locate it at home yet. The shuttle is $60 for one person, $5 for each additional. The shuttle picks up outside baggage claim and drives straight to the yard, or elsewhere that is prearranged. They do take credit cards. We have used the shuttle several times with no problem. I'll post more as soon as I find the phone number. Pam Bombach Central Ohio Club President Brent '99 *** USNA-NET post by: BOMBACH Pam 99 BOMBACH Brent ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22122 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:40:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:40:48 -0500 (EST) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: Some Cully cc: mszwarc@fyi.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: payback time REPLY In-Reply-To: <36D33ECC.4283@warwick.net> My son just received his wings and the day after, like you said, starts his 8 years of payback. This extended length of time it took him to get these wings is due to his placement in his graduating class. He had decided not to do much studying at the USNA and as a result, he did not leave for Pensacola until October, after commissioning. Had he done better in class and applied himself he would have been right in the first group. Can someone explain to me WHY the NAVY sends their grads to officer's training for 2 weeks in Pensacola? He was in San Antonio. Was sent for officer's training; back to San Antonio to pack then he goes back to Jacksonville. He will be sent to Brunswick Maine, his final billet, for survival training. Then it is back to Jacksonville so he can learn about P 3's, which is what he will be flying. All the rest of the stuff, I can appreciate, the 2 weeks at officer's school after spending 4 years at the USNA is just mind boggling to me. Wasn't the USNA good enough training? If someone who has been there can answer my question, it will be greatly appreciated. Thanks peace and hugs.............JO (john'97) *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER JO ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22336 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:51:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:51:17 -0500 (EST) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: Donna Floyd cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: returning from Spring Break REPLY In-Reply-To: <19990227170704.13989.qmail@hotmail.com> I was under the impression that no buses were provided for the mids. If I remember correctly, the sponsor helped out his mid in this situation. peace and hugs...........JO *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER JO ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA15580 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 20:50:56 -0600 (CST) From: GREGSTASEY@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:36:45 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Spring Break Just a quick note to wish everyone a wonderful and SAFE Spring Break !! I hope everyone gets to be with their Mid at least a few days. What do Mids like a Spring Break...hmmmm, no early morning rising, not making their bed, eating all day, sleeping all day, watching videos all day......in other words, the usual kid-home-from-college! - Ain't it great ?!! ENJOY !! Rita Schindeler-Trachta Austin, TX MIDN Jeremy Shamblee, 8th Co., '00 *** USNA-NET post by: SHAMBLEE Jeremy 00 TRACHTA Greg and Rita ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21893 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:31:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:37:54 -0500 From: Some Cully To: donnafloyd@hotmail.com CC: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: airport shuttle Dear Donna, My son's sponsor - she always has at least eight mids each year - picked up all of her sponsored mids from the airport, no matter what the time of day or night. She even made several runs back and forth and she is not unusal in this assistance. Has your son checked with his sponsor yet? Also, several mids have shared a cab and split the cost - it was all unplanned, they just looked around the airport for any mid who needed to share the ride. Kathy C. *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA18411 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:33:13 -0600 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [205.188.197.49] From: "Donna Floyd" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: herndon gathering Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 08:38:34 PST Well, everyone's been quiet about the gathering at Herndon and I had an idea. How about we meet at Herndon, with out folding chairs and coffee in hand (a picnic, maybe). This way we will get our "spot", we can save places for each other until the big event(as we will all want to explore and shop) and we don't have to worry about getting any inside accomodations. Of course, rain could pose a problem? Just a thought. Donna Daniel '02/11 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: FLOYD Daniel 02 FLOYD Donna ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA26075 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:17:33 -0600 (CST) From: BJSBURNS@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:22:52 EST To: donnafloyd@hotmail.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: herndon gathering Donna, Sounds good to us and I would not worry about the rain. Joyce *** USNA-NET post by: BURNS Steven R. 02 BURNS Bob and Joyce ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA28308 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:27:45 -0600 (CST) From: KSzerdy@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 22:31:01 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Herndon Dear Plebe Parents -- I'm enjoying reading all your plans for Herndon. We desperately wish that we could join you. We, too, are Plebe parents, but we have a second son graduating from high school just 21 hours before Herndon and as our oldest (Darren '02) has been in the limelight so much in the past couple of years, Nathan deserves his turn. Therefore, we made the decision to stay home( which is further complicated by the fact that I am a public school teacher and the 21st is the last day of school and it is a major no-no to skip out on the last day or postplanning). So here's hoping that you fellow Plebe parents will take good notes and share pics (on the net) and if one or two of you could keep an eye out for a 5'11" brown-haired, blue-eyed Plebe named Darren, we would appreciate your telling him we love him. (And to make matters more difficult, he does not get spring break this year as he has a crew meet in Tennessee through the 11th!) :-( GO NAVY!!!! Piecefully (I'm a quilter) yours, Kathy (Quilto) Szerdy *** USNA-NET post by: SZERDY Darren 02 SZERDY Kathline ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA28783 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:31:37 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: dcarter@pop1.trib.com Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:37:26 -0700 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: Dan Carter Subject: usna-net: links re:USNA Academy http://www.capitalonline.com/localweb/navalacademy.html http://www.militaryinfo.com/ http://www.history.navy.mil/ the above links are several interesting USNA related links you may wish to visit. Don't take any wooden nickels. Dan http://w3.trib.com/~dcarter/ http://w3.trib.com/~dcarter/alumni.html *** USNA-NET post by: CARTER Chris 00 CARTER Dan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA24861 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:05:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 07:08:50 -0600 From: Lane Trippe Subject: usna-net: THANK YOU, DAN To: Plebe Net , USNA-Net , Dan & Pat CARTER X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01BE6544.B0C90C60" X-MSMail-priority: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01BE6544.B0C90C60 charset="iso-8859-1" Dan Carter has provided another treasure! Thank you, Dan, for these new = sites. I always suspected there was a Navy Contact/Roster of Ships, = Bases and Sailors, but had never tracked it down. It is also a great = source of information & overview on types of ships, etc. The Navy = History site is similarly wonderful...I have only begun to explore it. =20 Note to midn parents who've ever had a seriously sick midn: the Capitol = Online site-- first site in Dan's list -- actually has a link to the = USNA Clinic/Hospital! First I've seen. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01BE6544.B0C90C60 charset="iso-8859-1"
Dan Carter has provided another = treasure! =20 Thank you, Dan, for these new sites.  I always suspected there was = a Navy=20 Contact/Roster of Ships, Bases and Sailors, but had never tracked it = down. =20 It is also a great source of information & overview on types of = ships,=20 etc.  The Navy History site is similarly wonderful...I have only = begun to=20 explore it. 
Note to midn parents who've ever had = a seriously=20 sick midn:  the Capitol Online site-- first site in Dan's list -- = actually=20 has a link to the USNA Clinic/Hospital!  First I've = seen.
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0059_01BE6544.B0C90C60-- *** USNA-NET post by: HAIK Kenneth 02 TRIPPE Lane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA26119 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:21:35 -0600 (CST) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "Lane Trippe" , "Plebe Net" , "USNA-Net" , "Dan & Pat CARTER" Subject: Re: usna-net: THANK YOU, DAN Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:27:26 -0600 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01BE6547.49FDB640" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BE6547.49FDB640 charset="iso-8859-1" Hi. I thank everyone for all the input in the last 3 weeks. I have = been pretty quite, but I have been setting up a new computer, a new = internet acount and recuping from yet another surgery. I should be up = and fighting/running now. Nancy ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BE6547.49FDB640 charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi.  I thank everyone for all = the input in=20 the last 3 weeks.  I have been pretty quite, but I have been = setting up a=20 new computer, a new internet acount and recuping from yet another = surgery. =20 I should be up and fighting/running now.
Nancy
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BE6547.49FDB640-- *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02 PATTERSON Todd&Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA28248 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:51:21 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: dcarter@pop1.trib.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 06:57:12 -0700 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: Dan Carter Subject: usna-net: herndon tapes in years past, herndon tapes have been available from: thornton studios 410-266-7424 2802 autumn chase circle annapolis, md 21401 i am not certain they are available this year, but for those parents not attending herndon, you may wish to check into the tapes. Don't take any wooden nickels. Dan http://w3.trib.com/~dcarter/ http://w3.trib.com/~dcarter/alumni.html *** USNA-NET post by: CARTER Chris 00 CARTER Dan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA01851 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:16:28 -0600 (CST) From: mlhaines@us.ibm.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 08:20:41 -0800 Subject: usna-net: Access to last year's Lucky Bag Content-Disposition: inline Just wanted to know if anyone can help me. My son, class of '01, got his Lucky Bag for '97/'98 and brought it home at Christmas. His sister used it to press some flowers and has ruined some of the pages. Does anyone know how I can order a new one? Does anyone know who I can call? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Michele Haines (Ethan '01 - 8th Company) Michele Project Manager, Integration Services Office: (818) 539-3332 t/l 396-3332 Pager: 1-800-946-4646 PIN 7136486 Internet address: MLHAINES@US.IBM.COM Lotus Notes address: MLHAINES@IBMUSM50 *** USNA-NET post by: HAINES 01 HAINES Michele ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA12726 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:52:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:52:37 -0500 (EST) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: Dan Carter cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: herndon tapes REPLY In-Reply-To: If all of those who are going to Herndon have a vcr in their hotel room, you can find out the local channel televising the climb and tape it yourself. My John's commissioning ceremony was obtained that way. Thornton could not have done a better job. He was in it 6-7 times and it was professionally done by the cameraman at no charge. If you think there will not be a vcr in your room.......bring your own. Sure wish I was going with you. peace and hugs..........GO NAVY...........JO *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER JO ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA13542 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:40:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:18:11 -0500 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: Blossom Hoag Subject: usna-net: 1996 Pin Seeing the note about the Lucky Bag reminded me that I have an extra 1996 "Mothers" pin--the sheild. I thought that I had lost mine and after the new one arrived, I found the original. If anyone is interested, please let me know. It has never been worn and, I believe cost $285. (I have the bill at home.) Best wishes, Blossom Hoag ('96, '98) --------------------------------------------------------------------- SAVE TREES: It's time to stop using envelopes when not necessary. ===================================================================== "The battle we have fought, and are still fighting, for the forests is a part of the eternal conflict between right and wrong ... So we must count on watching and striving for these trees, and should always be glad to find anything so surely good and noble to strive for." - John Muir, Nov. 23, 1895 ***"NEW MIT MAILING ADDRESS"*** MIT, E39 - 352 (617) 253 - 4059 77 Massachusetts Avenue Fax: (617) 253 - 5017 Cambridge, MA 02139 *** USNA-NET post by: HOAG Christopher/Ethan 98/96 HOAG Blossom ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA16171 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:26:31 -0600 (CST) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: BAD ! BAD ! BAD ! Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 15:31:05 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 TO ALL... READ THIS MESSAGE FROM YOUR MODERATOR. OK, I'll explain this once again so that even the most intelligent of our membership can understand it. DO NOT SEND THE SAME MESSAGE TO BOTH USNA-NET AND USNA-PLEBE !!! Do not COPY both USNA-Net AND USNA-Plebe !!! If you want to send a response to an individual member of the net and also want the net to receive a copy, just send the first and only message to the net and address the first line of the body of the text with the member's name. As in: "To Mike Zets and All," Everyone on the list will get the message including Mike and no one will get more than one copy. After just six hours today, I opened my mail box to find 32 messages and a dozen were duplicates, sent to BOTH Net and Plebe. In one case member A sent a message to Member B ("B" got one copy there) and then copied it to USNA-Net ("B" got another copy there) and also copied it to USNA-Plebe ("B" got the third copy there and 97 out of 110 of us got Two copies.) THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS. Please try to understand our structure. We currently have 110 USNA-Net members. That's everybody. Out of those 110 total members, 97 of them are ALSO on USNA-Plebe. No one is on USNA-Plebe that is not also on USNA-Net. So every time someone sends the same message to BOTH lists, 97 families get two copies. Besides defeating the purpose of two separate lists, we're driving up the message traffic on our server for no reason. The reason for TWO lists is that a few families do not want to be bothered with the higher message traffic that accompanies the Plebe stuff. When the current Plebe Parents become Firstie Parents in three more years, most of you will understand why a few may not want to hear about Herndon again this year. I might add that over half of the membership on USNA-Plebe are not Plebe Parents but just want to share experiences at all levels or love to hear anything about the Yard. I don't blame them, so do Sandi and I. I have been trying hard to encourage message traffic and open discussion of just about anything USNA related. I want you all to post whatever your little hearts desire. Just don't double up. Just don't double up. Mike *** USNA-NET post by: ZETS Michael Stoker 00 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA14894 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:41:02 -0600 (CST) RECP: Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 00:45:33 -0500 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: www.go-navy.com or Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free)- A Great Care Package Service & Personal requests hot line . X-Accept-Language: en To: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: History of Herndon: by MIDSHIPPERS Gray,granite obelisk; 21 feet high, matching gray, granite base, 71" x 71"; base of shaft, 48" x 48". The Herndon Monument was commissioned by the Officers of the U.S. Navy as a tribute to Commander William Lewis Herndon (1813-1857) after his loss in the Pacific Mail Steamer "Central America" during a hurricane off Georgia on September 12, 1857. Herndon had followed the long time custom of the sea that a ship's captain is the last person to depart his ship in peril. It was erected in its current location on June 16, 1860 and has never been moved even though the Academy was completely rebuilt between 1899 and 1908. Beginning in the late 1920s, the Herndon Monument became the center of what is known today as Plebe Recognition Ceremony. (Perhaps because it is the last rite of passage?) The ceremony evolved from the custom of Plebes on departing graduation exercises in Dahlgren Hall of reversing their uniform jackets and hats and snake dancing through the yard singing the ditty "Ain't No More Rivers," meaning the official end of fourth class year. Eventually the custom came to involve climbing various monuments in the yard and placing their hats on top. The tallest challenge was the Herndon Monument. As the ceremony evolved it became the only challenge and the only monument used in the ritual. The legend developed that the student who got his hat on the pinnacle of the obelisk first would become the first Admiral of his class. Although records have been kept in recent years, the legend has not proved true. Beginning in the mid-1970s it became a tradition that the Midshipman who first reached the top is carried by his classmates to the Superintendent, who observes the ceremony from the Chapel steps, where the triumphant Midshipman is given a pair of Admiral shoulder boards. When graduation exercises were held in Dahlgren Hall, the ceremony was among the last of the events of June Week (Commissioning Week). After 1966, when the graduation ceremonies were moved to the Navy-Marine Corps Stadium, it among the first of the events. Beginning in the 1950s, the upper classes decided to make the task more difficult and started the custom of coating the granite shaft with grease such as lard and cooking fat and digging a mud pit around its base. The latter custom has been discontinued, but the greasing continues. At some point, too, it became a custom to glue and/or tape a Plebe's "dixie cup" hat to the top of the monument so that it had to be removed before their standard visored hat could be put in its place. The monument climb is timed and a salute cannon is fired to signal the beginning of the ceremony and every fifteen minutes during the climb. The record time of one minute, thirty seconds was set by the class of 1972 (that's us) in 1969. The longest climb was in 1995 when the Class of 1998 took four hours, five minutes and seventeen seconds. BEAT ARMY!!! See you at HERNDON !! ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA05569 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:55:06 -0600 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [153.35.103.91] From: "Helene Martin Lynn" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: trying again Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 06:00:28 PST My last message didn't make it onto the board, so I am trying again. I'll be there to meet you all at Herndon, and looking forward to meeting you all. Lane Lynn, Seth '02, 3rd co. Go Navy! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: LYNN Seth 02 LYNN Helene ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA12789 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:34:34 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <010301be65fd$c0724c80$01a2bdcc@lane> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:58:13 -0500 To: Lane Trippe From: Blossom Hoag Subject: Re: usna-net: 1996 Pin Cc: Hi: I called it a "Mother Pin" because the Youngster class gets to design one side of their rings that they receive officially at the Ring Dance. That design is also made into a "Shield" (that's the word I couldn't think of yesterday) pin that the mids often give their mothers (sometimes girlfriends/fiancees). I asked for it just as a pin and then had inconspicuous loops put on the back to wear on a chain. The "Lucky Bag" is the "Year Book" for the Academy. I still have my father's from 1919! Best, Blossom Hoag >Blossom, >What is a "Mother's Pin"?? And what is a "Lucky Bag"? What does one have >to do to get a Mother's Pin...ordinarily? >Lane, in New Orleans --------------------------------------------------------------------- SAVE TREES: It's time to stop using envelopes when not necessary. ===================================================================== "The battle we have fought, and are still fighting, for the forests is a part of the eternal conflict between right and wrong ... So we must count on watching and striving for these trees, and should always be glad to find anything so surely good and noble to strive for." - John Muir, Nov. 23, 1895 ***"NEW MIT MAILING ADDRESS"*** MIT, E39 - 352 (617) 253 - 4059 77 Massachusetts Avenue Fax: (617) 253 - 5017 Cambridge, MA 02139 *** USNA-NET post by: HOAG Christopher/Ethan 98/96 HOAG Blossom ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA08103 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 06:08:43 -0600 (CST) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: New Parents' Club Website Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 07:11:04 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 To All... Please take a moment to check out the newest Parents' Club Web site brought to you by the Parents' Club of Connecticut at www.napcct.org. It has been written by Philip Trzcinski and George Minukas (and I suspect with a little help from Philip's other son, Barney). It was just published yesterday and I know that it will grow as they all have to be a valuable and information rich site. Congratulations to NAPCCT for the effort and a hearty WELCOME ABOARD! GO NAVY - BEAT army !!! Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net/USNA-Plebe Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org For a listing of ALL Parents' Club Websites see www.neonap.org/clublinks.html === *** USNA-NET post by: ZETS Michael Stoker 00 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA24359 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:32:19 -0600 (CST) From: "Philip Trzcinski" To: Subject: usna-net: Fw: Men's Glee Club Goes On European Tour Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:37:15 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BD_01BE670D.4865A7D0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01BE670D.4865A7D0 charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: Philip Trzcinski To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 5:14 PM Subject: Men's Glee Club Goes On European Tour I would like to introduce myself and my family to you. My name is = Philip Trzcinski, my wife's name is Molly and we have a son still at = home, Barney who is nine. I am involved in computer software = development, Molly is a full-time mom and Barney is totally engrossed = with computer activities most of the time. We live in Litchfield, CT in = an old Victorian home that claims most of our spare time and all of our = spare money!=20 =20 Our son, Nicholas is a member of the Class of 2000 and is very active in = the Men's Glee Club and other musical and dramatic arts activities at = USNA. He has been a member of the Glee Club's barbershop quartet for = the last two years which is called "Clean Shave". He considers the = opportunities in these areas at USNA to be first-rate. Nick is in 3rd = Company and shares a three-man room. He has been fortunate enough to = always have been assigned to one of the newly renovated wings of = Bancroft Hall, but without air-conditioning in any of Bancroft, I guess = it doesn't make that much difference! =20 The Men's Glee Club does both a Fall and Spring Tour somewhere in the = United States every year. The performances are usually held at college = or high school facilities and are well worth seeing. I try to let = everyone know where the Fall Tour will be next year. Since our son has = been at USNA he has toured with the glee club to the Northeast twice, = Texas and the west coast. =20 As of this date, the USNA Men's Glee Club has departed Annapolis for a = ten day European Tour. They will perform in Italy, Belgium and England. = The Men's Glee Club goes to Europe once every four years so that = everyone has at least one opportunity to go. =20 If anyone has any questions about the Glee Club, etc. don't hesitate to = ask. =20 GO NAVY!!! BEAT ARMY!!! =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01BE670D.4865A7D0 charset="iso-8859-1"
 
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Philip Trzcinski <philipt@erols.com>
To: = usna-net@navy-usna.org <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
= Date:=20 Thursday, March 04, 1999 5:14 PM
Subject: Men's Glee Club = Goes On=20 European Tour

I would like to introduce myself and = my family=20 to you.  My name is Philip Trzcinski, my wife's name is Molly and = we have a=20 son still at home, Barney who is nine. I am involved in computer = software=20 development, Molly is a full-time mom and Barney is totally engrossed = with=20 computer activities most of the time.  We live in Litchfield, CT in = an old=20 Victorian home that claims most of our spare time and all of our spare = money!=20
 
Our son, Nicholas is a member of the = Class of=20 2000 and is very active in the Men's Glee Club and other musical and = dramatic=20 arts activities at USNA.  He has been a member of the Glee Club's=20 barbershop quartet for the last two years which is called "Clean=20 Shave".  He considers the opportunities in these areas at USNA = to be=20 first-rate.  Nick is in 3rd Company and shares a three-man = room.  He=20 has been fortunate enough to always have been assigned to one of the = newly=20 renovated wings of Bancroft Hall, but without air-conditioning in any of = Bancroft, I guess it doesn't make that much difference!
 
The Men's Glee Club does both a Fall = and Spring=20 Tour somewhere in the United States every year.  The performances = are=20 usually held at college or high school facilities and are well worth=20 seeing.  I try to let everyone know where the Fall Tour will be = next=20 year.  Since our son has been at USNA he has toured with the glee = club to=20 the Northeast twice, Texas and the west coast.
 
As of this date, the USNA Men's Glee = Club has=20 departed Annapolis for a ten day European Tour.  They will perform = in=20 Italy, Belgium and England.  The Men's Glee Club goes to Europe = once every=20 four years so that everyone has at least one opportunity to = go.
 
If anyone has any questions about = the Glee Club,=20 etc. don't hesitate to ask.
 
GO NAVY!!!  BEAT = ARMY!!!
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01BE670D.4865A7D0-- *** USNA-NET post by: TRZCINSKI Nicholas 00 TRZCINSKI Philip ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA11049 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:29:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 19:38:18 -0500 From: Marilyn Szwarc Subject: usna-net: Suggestion To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Reply-to: mszwarc@fyi.net X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-priority: Normal For all of those who plan on attending Herndon -- and are traveling a distance -- Sam's Club has collapsible chairs for under $10 -- they fit in a duffel bag. My husband and I bought 2 and have taken them on the plane with us. They actually are comfortable -- as long as you don't wiggle too much! I know that my son is counting down the days! My daughter is one of the cadets in charge of Recognition -- USAFA's counterpart to Herndon. The C4Cs at the Air Force Academy will be recognized next Saturday -- 2 months before our kids climb Herndon. It never ceases to amaze me about the differences between Academies! Go Navy -- Beat Army -- and tie Air Force!!! Marilyn Szwarc Landrum, SC -- formerly of Bradford Woods, PA Emily UCCS -- Special Education Meghan USAFA '00 CS15 Doug USNA '02 2nd Company *** USNA-NET post by: SZWARC Douglas 02 SZWARC Marilyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA19048 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 15:14:12 -0600 (CST) From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Spring Break Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 16:19:59 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 For those of you who are lucky enough to have your Mid home for Spring Break, enjoy every minute of it!! We are pretty much snowed in here in Cleveland - along with a good part of the upper Midwest and East!! I spoke with my son last night. (Thank you, Greg and Carrie for taking him in for the night!) He left for Mexico this morning. During our conversation he said something that I thought I would like to pass along. He has done very well, academically, since at the Academy. Each semester he has improved. Here is the basic content of the conversation: When Michael was younger we lived in a community where there was a very prestigious prep school. His father had indicated that we might send him there, when he was old enough. We moved out of state before this could happen (and we would never have sent him away to school at that age). Michael felt that if he had gone to this prep school, he would, most likely, have ended up in some Ivy League school. (I believe that this might very well have happened.) His comment was "If I had gone to another college, I probably would be doing just as well, academically, but I would NEVER have learned as much as I have here." He truly values the scope of his education - as well as the difficulty of the classes he has encountered. He understands and appreciates the fact that every challenge he has experienced at the Academy has made him stronger - physically, mentally, and emotionally. I would imagine that many of your Mids feel the same way that he does. Michael is generally very "tight-lipped", it is like pulling teeth to get him to engage in something that might be considered a conversation. So when he opened up about this last night, I just knew that I should pass it along. Enjoy!! I certainly hope that the weather co-operates!! Oh, yes, and one more thing. Plebe parents. Don't be surprised if you have difficulty finding the floor in your Mid's room. It may just disappear while he or she is home!! Sandi Zets Westlake, Ohio *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA02601 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 10:49:46 -0600 (CST) From: Sdalziel@aol.com Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 11:54:54 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: USNA PARENT 01' Good Morning Everyone! Excited to experience this new connection with all the parents..... My husband & I are in Nashville, TN...our son Scott is in Co #26...class of 01' I am the secty/webmaster to the Tennessee Parent's Club homepage...please visit our site.... Tennessee USNA Parents Many thanks to Mike Zets for providing this new and exciting link to the USNA family! Look forward to more contact! Ken & Sue Dalziel Nashville *** USNA-NET post by: DALZIEL Scott 01 DALZIEL Ken and Sue ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA01082 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 21:38:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: I've Been Busy... Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:44:04 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 To All, Well, I hope that everything's going all right with everyone as our Mids start Spring Break. What a relief they must feel being able to get away from the Yard and the books for a few days. I hope that you parents don't mind not being able to find the floor of your Mid's room for a few days. Just wait until they return to the Yard to send in the bulldozer to clean up. The sheer joy of not being under absolute control for a few days usually causes them to forget everything that the Yard has beaten into them about housekeeping. Patience. If you're in the mood and have a moment to spare, please take a look at the completely updated and revamped Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ's) page on our website, www.navy-usna.org. I spent the day putting things down for all of the new members and also for the ol' timers out there. Hopefully, I've gotten it right this time. When the site was first up, I threw the FAQ's together in order to have something there. After a few weeks of operation, I think I managed to finally put up answers to some of the more frequent (and puzzling) questions that have crossed my keyboard, like... Member Privacy? Why Two Lists? How do I do... ? Can I... ? Why can't I... ? Where do I contact a Parents' Club near me? What's the phone number for the Yard? Plus a large list of links to Other USNA Related Sites. If you read the FAQ's before you got this message, IT'S ALL CHANGED! Thanks for taking the time to re-read them. Mike Zets Moderator USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe *** USNA-NET post by: ZETS Michael Stoker 00 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA21738 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 16:03:28 -0600 (CST) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org, usna-plebe@navy-usna.org Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 16:03:54 -0800 Subject: usna-net: Schottel's, Brian '01 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-22,24-38 X-Juno-Att: 0 From: william s schottel Greetings, I thought it was about time to introduce ourselves as we have been on the USNA-Net reading on all of the E-mail for several months and enjoying the conversations. It is also comforting to know we all share many of the same concerns. We are Bill and Donna Schottel of Belleville, IL.. Our son is Brian Schottel, Class of '01. We live just across the Mississippi River from St. Louis in Southern Illinois. We are members of the St. Louis Chapter of the Naval Academy Parent's Club. We are fortunate Mid parents indeed to have our son home for his first full Spring Break since he enlisted in the NAVY in 1996. Brian came to the Naval Academy by way of the Naval Academy Preparatory School (NAPS) in Newport, Rhode Island. His two previous Spring Breaks He was on the Baseball team at NAPS and then at the Academy and had commitments to that. We were fortunate enough last Spring Break though to watch him play baseball in Memphis at the All Service Academies Tournament. I would like to share my Herndon experience last year. If you are a Plebe parent and wondering if you should go. I will tell you Go!!!!!!!!!!! You won't ever regret it. The look in your Mid's eyes after they have completed the climb is well worth the price to get there. It was without a doubt one of the proudest moments in all of our lives. Wow what an experience to watch one of them pull the Dixie Cup off and replace it with the Midshipman's cover. I will never forget it. Good Luck to all of the parents and their MIDs. Enjoy Spring Break with your Mid. They deserve it. Plebe parents the wait is just about over, Herndon is almost here! Bill and Donna Schottel ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] *** USNA-NET post by: SCHOTTEL Brian 01 SCHOTTEL William&Donna ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA21948 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 16:10:35 -0600 (CST) To: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org, usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 16:11:30 -0800 Subject: usna-net: Semester Leave X-Juno-Att: 0 From: william s schottel Greetings, Does anyone out there know when the end of Semester Leave is scheduled? I have looked at the Naval Academy Web Site calendars, but they don't pin the exact dates down. My Mid couldn't take leave last year because of a sports commitment, but he informed me there is a Leave period. Bill Schottel, Brian '01 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] *** USNA-NET post by: SCHOTTEL Brian 01 SCHOTTEL William&Donna ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA10256 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:15:56 -0600 (CST) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Try it again X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-30 From: BILL C SCHOTTEL Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 00:21:47 EST Sorry folks, I was not clear in my previous message about end of Semester leave. Thanks to all who responded and tried to help me out. I'll try and make my question clearer. I was referring to a so called leave period that my Mid said is 4 to 5 days long. The leave period commences sometime after the end of the Spring Semester Exams and ends before the Mids are required to return to the Yard for Commissioning Week duties. He spoke of this leave period last year to me when he was a Plebe. Several of his buddies went on leave during this period and then returned for duty before Commissioning Week. He could not leave as he had a sports Commitment. He has brought the subject up during his Spring Break. He also said a lot of the Mids hung around the Yard last year and didn't take it. Maybe he is confused and its a long weekend or a special privilege. Sure like to know if anybody out there has heard about this or knows the answer. Thanks, Bill Schottel Brian '01 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] *** USNA-NET post by: SCHOTTEL Brian 01 SCHOTTEL William&Donna ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA26851 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 02:35:16 -0600 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [207.115.1.101] From: "Kay McGee" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Intersessional leave Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 00:40:49 PST To Bill and All: The May Planning Schedule (Thanks, Courtni!)lists May Intersessional from the 14th to the 17th. Mike says his starts after his last final on the 11th, but he didn't know about the return date, so Brian should check that out to be sure. Kay McGee (Mike '01) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: MCGEE Michael 01 MCGEE Kay ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA26504 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:54:31 -0600 (CST) From: BJSBURNS@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:48:26 EST To: schottel@juno.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Try it again Hi, Your son is correct according to our son who is a plebe and told us during the ride home for spring break that he will have leave during that period of time. I am not certain on the number of days, but 5-7 days I believe depending on when the finals are over for each Mid. Steven will be home later this evening and I will post further details if he knows more. Best regards, Joyce *** USNA-NET post by: BURNS Steven R. 02 BURNS Bob and Joyce ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA28466 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:07:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:24:56 +0100 From: JoAnn Selmo Organization: JMSelmo Inc To: listserve Subject: usna-net: Annapolis restaurants Looking forward to a trip to Annapolis, I am wondering if you would share your favorite restaurant recommendations, type of food, need for reservations or not etc. Thanks... JoAnn Selmo David '02, 20 *** USNA-NET post by: SELMO David B. 02 SELMO Don and JoAnn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA17229 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:04:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:02:26 -0600 From: Tom Worthing Organization: Hutchinson Community College To: Amy Worthing , Chris Worthing , Lorrie Dale , "Pike, Jeff" CC: Andrea Kinsey , Connie Worthing , Laura Worthing , Robert Dale , usna-net Subject: usna-net: Angels WE ARE NEVER ALONE!!! This is a true story that occurred in 1994 and is told by Lloyd Glen: Throughout our lives we are blessed with spiritual experiences, some of which are very sacred and confidential, and others, although sacred, are meant to be shared. Last summer my family had a spiritual experience that had a lasting and profound impact on us, one we feel must be shared. It's a message of love. It's a message of regaining perspective, and restoring proper balance and renewing priorities. In humility, I pray that I might, in relating this story, give you a gift my little son, Brian, gave our family one summer day last year. On July 22nd I was enroute to Washington DC for a business trip. It was all so very ordinary, until we landed in Denver for a plane change. As I collected my belongings from the overhead bin, an announcement was made for Mr. Lloyd Glenn to see the United Customer Service Representative immediately. I thought nothing of it until I reached the door to leave the plane and I heard a gentleman asking every male if they were Mr. Glenn. At this point I knew something was wrong and my heart sunk. When I got off the plane a solemn-faced young man came toward me and said, "Mr. Glenn, there is an emergency at your home. I do not know what the emergency is or who is involved, but I will take you to the phone so you can call the hospital." My heart was now pounding, but the will to be calm took over. Woodenly, I followed this stranger to the distant telephone where I called the number he gave me for the Mission Hospital. My call was put through to the trauma center where I learned that my three-year-old son had been trapped underneath the automatic garage door for several minutes, and that when my wife had found him he was dead. CPR had been performed by a neighbor, who is a doctor, and the paramedics had continued the treatment as Brian was transported to the hospital. By the time of my call, Brian was revived and they believed he would live, but they did not know how much damage had been done to his brain, nor to his heart. They explained that the door had completely closed on his little sternum right over his heart. He had been severely crushed. After speaking with the medical staff, my wife sounded worried but not hysterical, and I took comfort in her calmness. The return flight seemed to last forever, but finally I arrived at the hospital six hours after the garage door had come down. When I walked into the intensive care unit, nothing could have prepared me to see little son laying so still on a great big bed with tubes and monitors everywhere. He was on a respirator. I glanced at my wife who stood and tried to give me a reassuring smile. It all seemed like a terrible dream. I was filled-in with the details and given a guarded prognosis. Brian was going to live, and the preliminary tests indicated that his heart was ok, two miracles in and of themselves. But only time would tell if his brain received any damage. Throughout the seemingly endless hours, my wife was calm. She felt that Brian would eventually be all right. I hung on to her words and faith like a lifeline. All that night and the next day Brian remained unconscious. It seemed like forever since I had left for my business trip the day before. Finally at two o'clock that afternoon, our son regained consciousness and sat up uttering the most beautiful words I have ever heard spoken. He said, "Daddy hold me" and he reached for me with his little arms. [TEA BREAK...smile] By the next day he was pronounced as having no neurological or physical deficits, and the story of his miraculous survival spread throughout the hospital. You cannot imagine our gratitude and joy. As we took Brian home we felt a unique reverence for the life and love of our Heavenly Father that comes to those who brush death so closely. In the days that followed there was a special spirit about our home. Our two older children were much closer to their little brother. My wife and I were much closer to each other, and all of us were very close as a whole family. Life took on a less stressful pace. Perspective seemed to be more focused, and balance much easier to gain and maintain. We felt deeply blessed. Our gratitude was truly profound. The story is not over (smile)! Almost a month later to the day of the accident, Brian awoke from his afternoon nap and said, "Sit down mommy. I have something to tell you." At this time in his life, Brian usually spoke in small phrases, so to say a large sentence surprised my wife. She sat down with him on his bed and he began his sacred and remarkable story. "Do you remember when I got stuck under the garage door? Well it was so heavy and it hurt really bad. I called to you, but you couldn't hear me. I started to cry, but then it hurt too bad. And then the 'birdies' came." "The birdies?" my wife asked puzzled. "Yes," he replied. "The birdies made a whooshing sound and flew into the garage. They took care of me." "They did?" "Yes" he said. "One of the birdies came and got you. She came to tell you I got stuck under the door." A sweet reverent feeling filled the room. The spirit was so strong and yet lighter than air. My wife realized that a three-year-old had no concept of death and spirits, so he was referring to the beings who came to him from beyond as "birdies" because they were up in the air like birds that fly. "What did the birdies look like?" she asked. Brian answered, "They were so beautiful. They were dressed in white, all white. Some of them had green and white. But some of them had on just white." "Did they say anything?" "Yes" he answered. "They told me the baby would be alright." "The baby?" my wife asked confused. Brian answered. "The baby laying on the garage floor." He went on, "You came out and opened the garage door and ran to the baby. You told the baby to stay and not leave." My wife nearly collapsed upon hearing this, for she had indeed gone and knelt beside Brian's body and seeing his crushed chest and recognizable features, knowing he was already dead, she looked up around her and whispered, "Don't leave us Brian, please stay if you can. As she listened to Brian telling her the words she had spoken, she realized that the spirit had left his body and was looking down from above on this little lifeless form. "Then what happened?" she asked. "We went on a trip." He said, "far, far away." He grew agitated trying to say the things he didn't seem to have the words for. My wife tried to calm and comfort him, and let him know it would be okay. He struggled with wanting to tell something that obviously was very important to him, but finding the words was difficult. "We flew so fast up in the air. They're so pretty Mommy." he added. "And there is lots and lots of birdies." My wife was stunned. Into her mind the sweet comforting spirit enveloped her more soundly, but with an urgency she had never before known. Brian went on to tell her that the "birdies" had told him that he had to come back and tell everyone about the "birdies". He said they brought him back to the house and that a big fire truck, and an ambulance were there. A man was bringing the baby out on a white bed and he tried to tell the man that the baby would be okay, but the man couldn't hear him. He said the birdies told him he had to go with the ambulance, but they would be near him. He said, they were so pretty and so peaceful, and he didn't want to come back. Then the bright light came. He said that the light was so bright and so warm, and he loved the bright light so much. Someone was in the bright light and put their arms around him, and told him, "I love you but you have to go back. You have to play baseball, and tell everyone about the birdies." Then the person in the bright light kissed him and waved bye-bye. Then woosh, the big sound came and they went into the clouds. The story went on for an hour. He taught us that "birdies" were always with us, but we don't see them because we look with our eyes and we don't hear them because we listen with our ears. But they are always there, you can only see them in here (he put his hand over his heart). They whisper the things to help us to do what is right because they love us so much. Brian continued, stating, "I have a plan, Mommy. You have a plan. Daddy has a plan. Everyone has a plan. We must all live our plan and keep our promises. The birdies help us to do that cause they love us so much." In the weeks that followed, he often came to us and told all, or part of it again and again. Always the story remained the same. The details were never changed or out of order. A few times he added further bits of information and clarified the message he had already delivered. It never ceased to amaze us how he could tell such detail and speak beyond his ability when he spoke of his "birdies". Everywhere he went, he told strangers about the "birdies". Surprisingly, no one ever looked at him strangely when he did this. Rather, they always got a softened look on their face and smiled. Needless to say, we have not been the same ever since that day, and I pray we never will be. An Angel To Watch over You Oooo Some people ( ) come into our lives ) / and quickly go... (_ / oooO ( ) Some people \ ( become friends \_) and stay while... leaving beautiful Oooo footprints on our ( ) hearts... ) / (__/ oooO ( ) and we are \ ( ~ never ~ \_) quite the same because we have made a good friend!! Yesterday is history. Tomorrow a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why it's called the present! live and savor every moment.....this is not a dress rehearsal! (\ /) ( \ _ / ) ( \( )/ ) ( /<>\ ) TAKE THIS LITTLE ANGEL ( / \/ \ ) AND KEEP HER CLOSE TO YOU / \ SHE IS YOUR GUARDIAN ANGEL ( ) SENT TO WATCH OVER YOU ~~~~~~~ THIS IS A SPECIAL GUARDIAN ANGEL YOU MUST PASS THIS ON TO 5 PEOPLE WITHIN THE HOUR OF RECEIVING HER... AFTER YOU DO MAKE A WISH... IF YOU HAVE PASSED HER ON, YOUR WISH WILL BE GRANTED AND SHE'LL WATCH OVER YOU FOREVER... IF NOT HER TEARS WILL FLOW AND NO WISHES WILL BE GRANTED... Now don't delete this message, because it comes from a very special angel. -- Tom Worthing worthingt@hutchcc.edu Hutchinson Community College Home of the Blue Dragons! Hutchinson KS 67501 Laura, class of 99, USMA, Go Army! #15 Chris, class of 01, USNA, Go Navy! #11 *** USNA-NET post by: WORTHING Tom&Connie 01 Chris ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA23228 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:28:57 -0600 (CST) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: What's Appropriate? Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:24:24 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 To all... I just thought a gentle reminder was in order about what message topics are appropriate for posting to our Listservers. We are in the business of USNA Parenting, If it doesn't have something to do with USNA, then it should not be sent to the net. Messages about charitable causes Internet viruses, jokes, politics, religion, etc. are always inappropriate. We must remember that we are a diverse group of individuals who may not always share your beliefs and value system. What is touching and heart-warming to you may actually be offensive to other members. If you haven't read our rules, take a minute and re-read them. They can be found at www.navy-usna.org along with Frequently Asked Questions about this and many other matters. If you haven't been to the site within the past few days, it's been completely revamped and now includes many new links, schedules, phone numbers and other valuable reference material for USNA Parents. Check it out. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net/USNA-Plebe Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org For a listing of Parents' Club Websites see www.neonap.org/clublinks.html === *** USNA-NET post by: ZETS Michael Stoker 00 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA26042 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:31:05 -0600 (CST) From: "Courtni Wright" To: "listserve" Subject: usna-net: Annapolis restaurants Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:36:23 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 On the subject of restaurants, there are many of varied menus and prices. To appreciate the mids dining experience in Annapolis, I'd like to suggest Buddy's, located a few blocks from the Yard. It's neither fancy nor especially expensive, but it is definitely a must. My husband enjoyed the all-you-can-eat buffet; whereas, I found the crab cakes more to my taste. Although a bit heavy on filling and presenting an occasional shell bit, they were pretty good. Don't expect the greatest food or the speediest service. Do expect to find our mids sitting shoulder-to-shoulder chowing down on thick, juicy hamburgers and engaged in animated, unguarded conversation. Being able to peek into their world for a few minutes is worth the price of slightly watery soda and limp fries. Courtni Wright Ashley '02, 22 *** USNA-NET post by: WRIGHT Ashley 02 WRIGHT Courtni ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA29966 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:03:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:20:57 -0500 From: Some Cully To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: restaurants We have eaten in every restaurant in Annapolis - some are not worth your time and some are wonderful. Our favorites: 1. Chart House - just over the foot bridge from the Waterfront Marriot - it is right on the water. Reservations needed - it is elegant with a terrifc sald bar that is the best I've seen. A must to eat at some time during the 4 years. We save this for special times - PLebe Parents Weekend, Herndon, Easter etc. 2. Carrol's Creek and Lewnes Steak House are over there as well and are really good. 3. Pusser's Landing at the waterfront Marriot is great to go do on a sunny afternoon and eat outside on their dock - you can watch all the boats go by within several feet and watch the waiters help some to tie up to the restaurant slips. Food is good as well. 4. Two brand new restaurants just opened - Castlebay Restaurant and Galway Bay - both Irish in decor and menu. Galway Bay is quite good - expensive. Castlebay is more like a pub - smokey. In town. 5. O'Brien's and Griffins are also within walking distance and worthwhile - upperclass mid hang-outs. 6. Ram's Head Tavern is a very nice place with a micro-brewery atmosphere. Near Loew's Hotel 7.Reynold's Tavern - historic and small and Harry Browne's. Both very, very expensive but glad we did them once. 8. Mangia's - good Italian place in town, inexpensive and good food, a good place to go to when you take out your mids roommates. Fun Places - Outback, Fuddruckers, Chilli's. Buddy's BUT only there for Sunday Brunch otherwise the food is not worth the $. We also found Armadillo's disappointing and Cafe Normandy is inconsistent. Great Chinese food = The Canton Restaurant, located near Graul's (near the Stadium). Unassuming atmosphere but food is great, inexpensive and chefs are very accomodating. WE use them for take-out when we stay at the Hampton Inn and then we eat in the very nice facilities at the hotel. I hope this gives you some info - check out the following website: www.capitalonline.com/localweb/restaurants.html for complete listings, addresses and tel #'s. Go Navy! Kathy Cully Campbell Hall, NY Harold '99, 25th Co. *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA10734 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 07:42:27 -0600 (CST) From: PBombach@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:47:54 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Restaurants Maria's is a very good Italian rest. downtown behind the Market House. Northwoods is an excellent upscale rest. just east of Graul's and the stadium. If you have a car and want to try another upscale rest., Cafe Bretton in Severna Park, just off the Ritchie Hwy. Our son's sponsor took us there for several good dinners. For those Japanese food aficionados, the rest. on the west side of Main St. is very good. I just don't remember the name. It has a sushi bar that you can see from the front window. It's north of Ben and Jerry's I think. That's my addition to the good list that's being generated. Pam Bombach Columbus, OH Brent '99 *** USNA-NET post by: BOMBACH Pam 99 BOMBACH Brent ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA14968 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:19:28 -0600 (CST) From: "Anne Paul" To: "usna-net" Subject: usna-net: Hello! Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:46:08 -0900 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal New to this listserve, we are Jim and Anne Paul of Anderson, Alaska, a small town in the shadow of Mt. McKinley. We have been parents of mids for several years and have a few more to go - our daughter, Morgen, was a member of the class of '94. She is a SWO - a happy one, at that - who has deployed twice to the Arabian Gulf - once on the Nimitz and once as the FCO on the Port Royal. She is presently on her first shore assignment in Mayport, FL . Our older son, Jan, will graduate this May. He has chosen to be an NFO (his vision is not perfect) and will start flight school in Pensacola in July - after spending his leave here in Alaska assembling a kit car! Our youngest - son Scott - is a plebe. Maybe because he has always been used to taking orders from his parents and siblings - or because he had more knowledge about what to expect - he's been the least stressed by the plebe "experience". Our fledgling parents' club here in AK is mostly an information source, with our coordinator keeping us up to date on e-mail (from Fiji, no less, in the winter). It is very difficult and expensive for us to gather face to face. Our kids are all in FL for spring break. Jan and some buddies rented a motorhome in Ft. Lauderdale and drove down to Key West, where at last report, all were having a marvelous time. Scott and another plebe buddy went to Jacksonville to borrow a vehicle from Morgen to visit the beaches and Disney World. It's good that they all chose to go to a warm place that was really warm this week - the D.C. area (and most probably Annapolis) looks pretty bleak on the TV news!!!! To add some notes to the discussion about eateries in Annapolis. We liked Griffins - especially a lunch of their clam chowder on a chilly day. Another fun place to go - but it's a short drive out - is Hayman's Crab House. They have great seafood dinners, but their specialty is brown-paper-on-the-table crabs - wear a bib!! Great meals also at Ram's Head Tavern - and don't forget the Officer's and Faculty Club on the Yard. When your mid doesn't have much time - or can't leave the yard - Dahlgen is great - we've spent many fun hours - and met lots of great people there. When Jan was a plebe, someone told him that "straight out of Gate 3 - past the circles" there was a place called "Chicken Louie's" that had great milk shakes. When we visited him for Plebe Parents' Weekend, we discovered "Chick and Ruth's Deli" - an interesting hole in the wall - I can't even remember what the food was like - we have laughed since about "Chicken Louie's". Anne Paul Scott '02, 28th Co. *** USNA-NET post by: PAUL Jan William 99 and Scott W. 02 PAUL Jim and Anne ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA16938 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:13:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:17:54 -0600 From: Tom Worthing Organization: Hutchinson Community College To: usna-net Subject: usna-net: Parents club of Kansas Connie, my wife, and I have been on usna-net from its beginning and enjoy the information posted here. Our daughter is graduating from USMA in May while our son Chris is a member of the USNA class of '01. We have just taken over the duties of President of Parents Club of Kansas. I am interested in what other Parents clubs are doing and looking for other members from Kansas. We are open to ideas and suggestions. Do you have a web site for parents? Email me at home worthing@southwind.net -- Tom Worthing worthingt@hutchcc.edu Hutchinson Community College Home of the Blue Dragons! Hutchinson KS 67501 Laura, class of 99, USMA, Go Army! #15 Chris, class of 01, USNA, Go Navy! #11 *** USNA-NET post by: WORTHING Tom&Connie 01 Chris ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA05493 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:23:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Courtni Wright" To: "listserve" Subject: usna-net: Annapolis restaurants Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:36:23 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Status: On the subject of restaurants, there are many of varied menus and prices. To appreciate the mids dining experience in Annapolis, I'd like to suggest Buddy's, located a few blocks from the Yard. It's neither fancy nor especially expensive, but it is definitely a must. My husband enjoyed the all-you-can-eat buffet; whereas, I found the crab cakes more to my taste. Although a bit heavy on filling and presenting an occasional shell bit, they were pretty good. Don't expect the greatest food or the speediest service. Do expect to find our mids sitting shoulder-to-shoulder chowing down on thick, juicy hamburgers and engaged in animated, unguarded conversation. Being able to peek into their world for a few minutes is worth the price of slightly watery soda and limp fries. Courtni Wright Ashley '02, 22 *** USNA-NET post by: WRIGHT Ashley 02 WRIGHT Courtni *** USNA-NET post by: WRIGHT Ashley 02 WRIGHT Courtni ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA23658 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:44:21 -0600 (CST) From: Jhb317@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 23:49:47 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Anthrax vaccine Hello, I am sure quite a few of you have heard about the Anthrax vaccine and the concerns that some have over it. Does anyone have any information about the safety issues that have been raised? Our mids will have to take it sometime in the future. Carol Bringhurst *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA13223 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 23:58:52 -0600 (CST) From: "Anne Paul" To: "usna-net" Subject: usna-net: Anthrax Vaccine Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 21:02:50 -0900 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Hello Carol, The only thing I have read about the anthrax vaccine which will be given to those in the military who might be exposed to anthrax itself is that there will be a certain percentage of those vaccinated who will come down with the disease. Further, that percentage is generally expected to be higher than most vaccines we in the free world are used to, but still a very low number. You didn't ask for our philosophy on the subject, but thought I might share some with you anyway. Recognizing the risks, with people like Saddam and the various terrorist organizations out there, I would prefer my kids in the military to have the best opportunity to survive a "germ" warfare attack if one of the potential "harms" they might encounter if placed in harms way might be exposure to anthrax. For those who contract the disease as a result of being vaccinated, a consolation, certainly, is that they probably won't be on the battlefield and will have the best medical care available to help them fight it. I feel quite sure there are going to be two developments---first, there will be some GI's who do, in fact, die from the vaccination---second, there will be continual improvement of the vaccine and the process under which it is administered, reducing the above percentage steadily. I liken the whole issue to our having jet fighter pilots climbing into a vehicle which is loaded with tons of highly flammable liquid fuel, explosive rockets and bombs, flies at from just under the speed of sound to a few times over that, and must be lit it on fire prior to take-off (often off carrier decks)! While the military works very hard to make flying fighters as safe as possible, it is fundamentally an unsafe practice (as is vaccinating for anthrax)! However, it is also the best defense that we have for certain situations and only a very small percentage of our pilots don't make it back, even under hostile circumstances. Jim Paul *** USNA-NET post by: PAUL Jan William 99 and Scott W. 02 PAUL Jim and Anne ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA11717 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 04:08:04 -0600 (CST) RECP: Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 05:12:07 -0500 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: www.go-navy.com or Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free)- A Great Care Package Service & Personal requests hot line . X-Accept-Language: en To: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: leave early to return!! This is not meant to alarm anyone, but it calls for snow, sleet, freezing rain today in Annapolis. Have your Mids leave early and dress warm if possible . If they are stranded or anticipate being late, they should call the Main Office (410-293-5001) and let them know. Suggest flying in to Baltimore(BWI) vs Washington (Reagan Int.) if possible. Nick & Dolly '71-'72 BEAT ARMY!!! ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA22930 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 06:43:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 07:48:06 -0500 From: "Robert J. Beck-Coon" X-Accept-Language: en To: usna-net Subject: usna-net: Anthrax Vaccine I think it does a disservice to promote the idea that a current vaccine would actually cause the disease. The anthrax vaccine is a live, but attenuated virus, meaning that although it will invoke immunity to the disease it is not capable of causing the disease. For those interested, please see http://www.defenselink.mil/other_info/vaccine.html. Bob Beck-Coon Benjamin, 02 *** USNA-NET post by: BECK-COON Benjamin Philip 02 BECK-COON Robert ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA28918 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:54:25 -0600 (CST) From: Deb Hefner To: "'Robert J. Beck-Coon'" , usna-net Subject: RE: usna-net: Anthrax Vaccine Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 10:03:37 -0500 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by westpoint.west-point.org id IAA28913 Thankyou! Deb Hefner, Kris '02 -----Original Message----- From: Robert J. Beck-Coon [SMTP:rjbeck@iquest.net] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 1999 7:48 AM To: usna-net Subject: usna-net: Anthrax Vaccine I think it does a disservice to promote the idea that a current vaccine would actually cause the disease. The anthrax vaccine is a live, but attenuated virus, meaning that although it will invoke immunity to the disease it is not capable of causing the disease. For those interested, please see http://www.defenselink.mil/other_info/vaccine.html. Bob Beck-Coon Benjamin, 02 *** USNA-NET post by: BECK-COON Benjamin Philip 02 BECK-COON Robert *** USNA-NET post by: HEFNER John&Deb 02 HEFNER Kristopher ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA03837 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 22:34:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 23:50:00 -0500 From: Some Cully To: rjbeck@quest.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: vaccine website Dear Robert, Thank you for the website so that we can obtain the info we need. If our government didn't provide our military with this protection, it would be a greater problem. Kathy C. Campbell Hall,NY Harold '99, 25th Co. *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA06331 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 05:44:43 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin J. Latham" To: Subject: usna-net: Anthrax Vaccine Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 06:52:08 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 I'd just like to offer another opinion on the anthrax vaccine that all members of the military have been ordered to receive. My husband, Kevin, is a Naval Intelligence Officer and although the anthrax vaccine has not been administered in his command yet, he says that he will ABSOLUTELY take it when the opportunity comes. In fact, he said that he wished he could have everyone in our family vaccinated. If you knew Kevin, you would realize that he is in no way an alarmist or an extremist. (In fact, he believes that he lights WON'T go out on January 1, 2000.) Yet he thinks that there is a real need for members of the military to have the anthrax vaccine. Exposure to anthrax can mean death in three days. Seems like an easy choice to me. *** USNA-NET post by: LATHAM Conor 03 LATHAM Kevin and Sandi ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA27721 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:26:14 -0600 (CST) From: Sdalziel@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 23:30:18 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Looking ahead to A/N The Tennessee USNA Parent's Group is looking into possibly getting a group of seats together for the big Army/Navy game in Philly.....also a block of hotel rooms at a reasonably priced hotel not far from the stadium....not at all familiar with the city...first A/N game for many of us....can anyone offer some good do's and don't's about where to stay? Any suggestions appreciated.... Thanks in advance... Sue & Ken Dalziel Scott 01' *** USNA-NET post by: DALZIEL Scott 01 DALZIEL Ken and Sue ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA29747 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 23:56:22 -0600 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [207.115.62.14] From: "Kay McGee" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Looking ahead to A/N Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:02:07 PST To Sue,Ken and All: Last fall, I stayed at the Four Points Sheraton in Cherry Hill, NJ, partly because my parents were staying with relatives there. It was very nice, and with my Entertainment Book the price was much more reasonable than the hotels in Philadelphia. The 20 minute drive to the city was no problem. I had no trouble getting into town Friday afternoon, or getting to the stadium on Saturday morning. Kay McGee Mike '01 GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY! >From: Sdalziel@aol.com >To: usna-net@navy-usna.org >Subject: usna-net: Looking ahead to A/N >Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 23:30:18 EST > >The Tennessee USNA Parent's Group is looking into possibly getting a group of >seats together for the big Army/Navy game in Philly.....also a block of hotel >rooms at a reasonably priced hotel not far from the stadium....not at all >familiar with the city...first A/N game for many of us....can anyone offer >some good do's and don't's about where to stay? Any suggestions >appreciated.... > >Thanks in advance... > >Sue & Ken Dalziel >Scott 01' > >*** USNA-NET post by: DALZIEL Scott 01 DALZIEL Ken and Sue > >Visit OUR USNA-Net Website: www.navy-usna.org > >USNA Parents' Club Websites may be found at >www.neonap.org/clublinks.html > >We need NEW members! Tell your USNA friends, fellow Parents' Club Members and Officers about USNA-Net. Nag them into joining. They'll be glad you did. > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: MCGEE Michael 01 MCGEE Kay ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA05043 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:36:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:54:02 +0100 From: JoAnn Selmo Organization: JMSelmo Inc To: listserve Subject: usna-net: Rooms Last year the WISNAPA stayed at the Hawthorn Suites and they will again this year. They have a bloc of rooms for $119 and $129 (large double). They were pleased with the accomodations and the Hawthorn is close to easy public transportation---no need to drive a car to the game where the traffic and parking can be quite frustrating. JoAnn Selmo David, '02, 20 *** USNA-NET post by: SELMO David B. 02 SELMO Don and JoAnn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA29797 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:59:12 -0600 (CST) From: Jhb317@aol.com Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:02:58 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Air Fares The prices have dropped on fares from Houston to Annapolis, so you might want to check it out. I have already booked our flight for May, so Continental is giving us vouchers for our next trip. There is not a $75 charge, so it is worth checking it out. Carol B *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA00318 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:51:49 -0600 (CST) From: STereshko@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:57:34 EST To: Sdalziel@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Looking ahead to A/N Many clubs/individuals book rooms about 1 yr. in advance; especially if you want to be situated in downtown Phila.. If you're looking to secure a block of rooms, you may also want to consider either renting a separate function room that can be used as a hospitality suite --or-- rent a suite with adjoining sitting area for the same purpose. This is good for socializing with parents and mids. Might we also suggest that you use the internet to search for convenient hotels. www.yahoo.com is a good search engine to try and then you can make specifications as to the proximity to the city, airports, or stadium that you prefer. Yahoo also serves well for locating restaurants and their distance from your selected hotel. Go Navy... Beat Army!! Good Luck, *** USNA-NET post by: TERESHKO Daniel 02 TERESHKO Sue and Jim ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA07160 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:44:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:02:09 -0500 From: Some Cully To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Looking Ahead to A-N In the past, the Phillie hotels require a minimum of 2 nights stay. You can call the Navy sports offc. now and they will tell you what hotel the football team will be staying at. Last year. it was the Wyndham - a great place with the subway located right outside to take you to the stadium. Members of our Club who stayed there were pleased with the 10 min. train trip and saved the cost of parking and the harried traffic. The team stayed at the Doubletree previous to that - we stayed there and were right downtown in the best location! Although I usually make my reservation a year ahead, the travel agency in Bancroft Hall issues a listing of the Navy-Army hotels/motels with the best rates! When I realized that, I was able to make better reservations a month before, at $99. with breakfast included. I suggest that you ask your mid to get that info for you from the Bancroft Hall-based travel agency. The Hampton Inn out by the airport/stadium has a nice atrium for gathering and reasonable suites for partying. Hope this helps! Go Navy ! Kathy Cully Campbell Hall, NY Harold, '99, 25th Co. *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA05241 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 15:14:51 -0600 (CST) From: ACTIONCHEM@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 16:14:38 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: introduction Hello, We are Penny and Bob Hulbert. We live in White Plains, New York. Our only child, Eric, is in the class of 2002. Eric is in the 16th company and is on the sailing team on the j24. We were so happy to learn of the listserver ; getting information and generally communicating with our plebe has been tough. We look forward to sharing experiences with other mid parents and receiving any advice they can offer. Yours truly Penny Hulbert *** USNA-NET post by: HULBERT Eric 02 HULBERT Bob and Penny ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA10528 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 17:05:44 -0600 (CST) From: "gandy" To: Subject: usna-net: from Alabama USNA '02 parents Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 17:13:21 -0600 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005F_01BE73BE.1F5817C0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01BE73BE.1F5817C0 charset="iso-8859-1" We are (Cmdr. USNR) Wayne and Jackie Gandy of Guntersville, Alabama. = Wayne works for NASA in Huntsville, Al. Just before Jonathan was = sworn-in at the Academy last July Wayne completed his 20 years of = serving both active duty in the Navy's Nuclear Power Program (last = ship-- USS CAlifornia CGN-36) and as a Reserve officer in the = engineering field. Jackie works part time managing a garden center, does = volunteer work in the Master Gardener program of Alabama, she is a = Sunday school teacher at their church and she does various art projects = and volunteers in their children's school system. They live on a mini = farm and raise cows.=20 There are two more children at home Jeramy Elizabeth-16 in the = 10th grade who is into drama, music and dance and Jordan Michael- 10 in = the 5th grade who also excells in music and he recently just passed = over into Boy Scouts where he is now working toward Eagle. (He tells us = he wants to go to West Point instead of the Academy but we have a few = years to "change " his mind!). We are members of the Alabama USNA = Parents Club.=20 Our son is JONATHAN WAYNE GANDY, '02 in 30th company. He is a = member of the Drum and Bugle Corps, plays the contra bass, (tuba) and is = majoring in Systems Engineering. Right now he is looking forward to no = longer being a plebe! He has settled down and knows that he is "home" = for the next few years at Mother B! Our favorite trips are now the = ones that take us to Annapolis and to the airport to pick up our MID. = On the trip back to USNA while we were waiting for the call for Jonathan = to board, the pilot of the plane he would be on was also a USNA grad = and he came over, talked a bit of his experiences and then came back = again later to inform our son that he had been bumped up to FIRST CLASS! = Just as a courtesy, you understand! He loved it!Well, he is rather = tall and could use the extra leg space! We will be there to watch the triumphs (and falls) of Herndon! =20 Go NAVY!! =20 Jackie Gandy ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01BE73BE.1F5817C0 charset="iso-8859-1"
 
 
  We are (Cmdr. USNR) Wayne and = Jackie=20 Gandy of  Guntersville, Alabama.  Wayne works for NASA = in =20 Huntsville, Al.  Just  before  Jonathan was  = sworn-in at the=20 Academy last July Wayne  completed his 20 years of  serving = both=20 active duty in the Navy's Nuclear Power  Program  (last ship-- = USS=20 CAlifornia CGN-36) and as a  Reserve officer in the engineering = field.=20 Jackie works part time managing a garden center, does volunteer work in = the=20 Master Gardener program of Alabama, she is a Sunday school teacher at = their=20 church and she does various art projects and volunteers in their = children's=20 school system. They live on a mini farm and raise cows.
     There are = two=20 more  children at home Jeramy Elizabeth-16 in the 10th grade who is = into=20 drama, music and dance and Jordan Michael- 10 in the 5th grade who also = excells=20 in  music and he recently just passed over into Boy Scouts where he = is now=20 working toward Eagle. (He tells us he wants to go to West Point instead = of the=20 Academy but we have a few years to "change " his mind!).  = We are members of the Alabama USNA = Parents=20 Club. 
     Our son is JONATHAN WAYNE GANDY, '02 in 30th = company.   He is a=20 member of the Drum and Bugle Corps, plays the contra bass, (tuba) and is = majoring in Systems Engineering. Right now he is looking forward  = to no=20 longer being a plebe!   He has settled down and knows that he = is=20 "home" for the next few years at Mother B!  =     Our favorite=20 trips are now the ones that take us to Annapolis and to the airport to = pick up=20 our MID.  On the trip back to USNA while we were waiting for the = call for=20 Jonathan to board,  the pilot of the plane he would be on was also = a USNA=20 grad and he came over, talked a bit of his experiences and then came = back again=20 later to inform our son that he had been bumped up to FIRST CLASS!  = Just as=20 a courtesy, you understand!  He loved it!Well, he is rather tall = and could=20 use the extra leg space!
We will be there to watch the = triumphs (and=20 falls) of Herndon!  
 Go = NAVY!!
 
Jackie Gandy
------=_NextPart_000_005F_01BE73BE.1F5817C0-- *** USNA-NET post by: GANDY Jonathan Wayne 02 GANDY Wayne and Jackie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA28964 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 22:35:19 -0600 (CST) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Hello... Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 23:41:06 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 To all, For some reason (unknown to me - I'll find out soon) the following message was sent properly but bounced. It shouldn't have. Let's just pretend that it didn't. Debbie and Carl, you did nothing wrong. I guess we've got gremlins at work in Austin at the Host Server. Please reply to them directly at: daacaa@tempest.nac.net. Their message was: Thought it was time to be brave enough to leave a message. We are Carl and Debbi Anderson of New Jersey. We live in the northwest part of the state ( farm country), believe it or not New Jersey has some rural parts. Our oldest son Bjorn is a plebe in 21st company. His love is long distant running and has managed to stay on the X-country and track team without being cut. We have 2 other children. Sten is a senior, whose interests are tennis and awaiting college acceptances. Kiira is an 8th Grader who also loves running and gymnastics. Carl is a beginner to the computer, and has managed to handle email , due to his desire to talk to Bjorn. I'm not much better at it but I'm learning. I have enjoyed the conversations over the last few weeks. A lot of similarities. I also appreciate the advice form the upper class parents, keep it coming , we need all the help we can get. Bjorn has settled in, too. I noticed that he considers the academy home much more, this time he was home. It's a mixed emotion for a first child to leave home. Well I went on enough. We will be at Herndon, Grandmas in tow. Talk to you soon. GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY! ANDERSON Bjorn Gunnar 02 ANDERSON Carl and Debbi *** USNA-NET post by: ZETS Michael Stoker 00 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA26535 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:35:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Mids and Income Taxes... Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:40:33 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I had a question earlier from Dev & Laki Mahadevan from Houston, TX about whether or not they could still claim their Mid as a tax deduction... THIS IS NOT OFFICIAL but I have always understood it to be... You should consider your Mid to be a college student. Any money they make at the Yard (and perhaps from a job before they went to Annapolis) is considered Income and they will have to file an income tax return JUST LIKE ANY OTHER COLLEGE STUDENT. Now, here's the fun part. Does the parent or the Mid get the deduction? Here's what I have done for years. Ask your Mid to figure out his own taxes BOTH WAYS - both taking and not taking himself as a deduction. The difference is what you owe him if you take the deduction and he doesn't. The IRS will allow one of you to take the deduction BUT NOT BOTH! When you figure out your taxes BOTH WAYS, you'll probably find that YOU get a bigger tax savings than he does. If that's the case, I always took the deduction and sent a check to my "college" student in the amount of the "hit" he had to take to make up for it. The Mids gets a little bonus and Uncle Sam gets the least from the family. Again, this is not official but if there are any Accountants out there to back me up, now's the time to offer a little free tax advise. I know that you're busy this time of year but ask the spouse to send the email for you if you can't spare the time. :>) Thanks and I hope this helps. (For those parents who have daughters as Mids, please substitute Her or She in the above. I wouldn't want to be politically incorrect.) Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net/USNA-Plebe Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org For a listing of Parents' Club Websites see www.neonap.org/clublinks.html *** USNA-NET post by: ZETS Michael Stoker 00 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA05104 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:10:16 -0600 (CST) From: NevesPK@aol.com Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:15:07 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Midshippers.. I have been trying for two days to get to the web site for the "care package" people..I have left two messages on the machine ..you get no chance to talk to a real person.....Help I need to send a package to my mid ..PNeves (Douglas02) *** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA08742 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:18:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:36:41 -0500 From: Some Cully To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: care packages Dear Pamela, I like to recommend : Shelly's Flower Box on King George St., 800-736-0876 or 410-267-0876. They are considerate and their packages are really good - they take VISA etc. over the phone - also Lennon's Fudge on Main St.. 410-263-3032 - This is a favorite of Parents' Clubs when they order 'en masse' for a holiday. They also take VISA etc. Great cookies and fudge! Good Luck! - Kathy & Jim C. Campbell Hall, NY Harold, 25th Co. '99 *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA11665 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:23:57 -0600 (CST) From: JDBldrInc@aol.com Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:29:53 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Re: http://www.go-navy.com (midshippers) Pam, I tried to reach them on their site, too. Apparently they're having technical difficulties :( Here's another to try, taken from the Class 2002 website at http://www.usna2002.cjb.net I Love My Mid Care Packages http://annapolismag.com/ilovemymid/ 1-800-809-5276 email: carepaks@ao.com Good luck! GO NAVY! Sam Troy 02, 21st Co. Jeff & Sam Dickey, Boring, OR *** USNA-NET post by: DICKEY Jeff&Sam 02 Troy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA12354 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:48:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:07:19 -0500 From: Some Cully To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: taxes and mid dependency One of the most confusing situations that parents of midshipmen encounter is how to file their federal taxes for their mid's first year at the Naval Academy as well as the years that follow. In order to be certain on this issue, my husband and I located the official form that was given to us by the Academy when our son was a plebe. It listed the gov.'s exact monetary support to our son from I-Day until Dec of that year. Cash, food allowance, lodging, medical and dental care expenses were all listed. There was another section with itemized areas where we could list our support. As suggested on this form, our support at this time period did exceed the total support provided by the Academy, (the other dependency tests were met as specified by the IRS) and we were able to claim our mid as a dependent, especially in using the initial money deposit that was required for entering plebes. BUT the advice in this official form then stated that "although these same general calculations can be used for mid's other years at the Naval Academy, midshipmen pay and Academy support will be greater over the full years and that parents' support is unlikely to exceed "support by others" ". They suggested for further information or assistance, please call the officer in charge at the Midshipmen Financial Advisor Ofice, 410-293-3307. I trust that this is helpful to those who are wondering what to do. Go Navy! Kathy & Jim C. Campbell Hall, NY Harold,'99 25th Co. *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA12945 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:10:26 -0600 (CST) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:16:46 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Fellow USNA-NET Members, After Cathy Cully sent her note, I found this FAQ on the West Point Net and it should shed additional light on the subject. It appears that claiming your Mid as a dependent is OK for the tax year that your Mid entered the Yard as a Plebe. After that, it's doubtful that you could ever hope to claim your Mid again. Just another way of saying "Goodbye" as they leave the nest. They can't be you little babies if you can't deduct them on your 1040. The enclosed West-Point memorandum regarding income tax guidance for fourth class cadets is the current version of a message distributed to the WP plebes. In principle it should also apply to USNA Midshipmen. I have included the entire message for distribution to our Net. While it was written a year ago (the amounts may not be QUITE right today) the basic message is still VERY relevant. ========QUOTE================ MEMORANDUM FOR FOURTH CLASS CADETS SUBJECT: Income Tax Information 1. Many of you as fourth class cadets have questions concerning the income tax consequences of cadet pay and allowances. This memo provides information from the standpoint of both your tax return and your parents' return for 1997. It is very important that you share this data with your parents. 2. This memo is based on the tax laws and current rulings of treasury officials. It is, however, informative only and does not necessarily reflect the official position of the Internal Revenue Service or the Department of the Army. 3. All cadets at the Academy must file their own income tax returns. Each fourth class cadet who entered the Academy on 30 Jun 97 and remained through 31 Dec 97 has received or had credited to their account during 1997 base pay of $3,366.84. Cadets must report this amount as income from the Army. In addition, each cadet received a $4,600.00 pay advance to assist with the payments of uniforms, textbooks, computer, software and various school fees. 4. Your parent(s)/guardian(s) must have contributed more than half of your support for the year in order to claim you as an income tax exemption. "More than half the support" refers to dollar value, and not to the length of time support was furnished. Your parent or guardian may properly include the cost of board, clothing, lodging, medical and dental care, education, property and furniture, insurance, etc., they furnished you when they calculate their level of support. If you lived at home during the first six months of 1997, your parent or guardian may include a proportionate amount of the family food bill, utilities, rent or house payments, interest, taxes, etc., as part of your support. If you attended college, prep school, or high school prior to entering the Military Academy, your parents may also include the amount they paid for tuition, books, school supplies, and transportation to and from school as parental support. 5. In determining the value of support furnished from sources other than your parents, you must include both taxed and untaxed support amounts. This simply means that the portion of your taxable pay spent on your own support must be included, and in addition, the support provided by the Army in the form of food, lodging, education and their services must also be included. Even though the value of Army support is not taxed as income, the value must be considered when determining who provided more than half of your support. The following chart indicates values of support furnished by yourself and by the Army. MALO-T(1)SUBJECT: Income Tax Information Cadet Pay earned from 1 July through 31 December $3,366.84 Government Pay Advance 4,600.00 Subsistence (food) (95 days x $5.03 per day) 30 June through 30 September 477.85 (91 days x $5.15 per day) 1 October through 31 December 468.65 Room and Board (186 days at $15.33 [estimated]) 2,851.38 Education (the actual 1993 tuition cost per semester at the U.S. Military Academy) 12,354.00* TOTAL SUPPORT BY THE CADET AND BY THE ARM $24,118.72 * 1997 Estimate 6. In our opinion, if your parent has not provided at least $24,118.72 in support, then your parent may not be able to claim you as an exemption. If your parent has provided more that this amount in support, then your parent is entitled to claim you as an exemption. Under IRS regulations, if your parent can claim you, you cannot claim a personal exemption for yourself, and you will have to complete a worksheet to compute your standard deduction. 7. The question may arise whether an appointment to the Military Academy can be considered a "scholarship award" within the meaning of the income tax laws. The Internal Revenue Service has ruled that such an appointment is not a scholarship award and that the education provided by the Military Academy must, therefore, be included as an item of support furnished by the Army. 8. I trust that the information provided, although necessarily general in nature, will be of assistance to you and your family. The above information is provided to ensure that you and your parent(s)/guardian(s) have sufficient data to calculate income tax returns. 9. Any questions by your parent(s)/guardian(s) concerning the proper methods of calculating dependency should be resolved through independent legal counsel, Publication 17, and/or contact with the Internal Revenue Service. /original signed/ WARREN L. WRAY, JR. MAJ, QM Treasurer, USMA ===============END QUOTE=================== I hope this helps. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net/USNA-Plebe Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org For a listing of Parents' Club Websites see www.neonap.org/clublinks.html === *** USNA-NET post by: ZETS Michael Stoker 00 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA17063 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 18:27:21 -0600 (CST) From: "Greg Stimis" To: , References: Subject: Re: usna-net: Midshippers.. Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 18:36:30 -0600 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I have dealt with these people in the past and have found them to be very nice. Dolly and Nick Pantelides (sp - ?) run the business. Dolly is apparently the moving force and Nick is a grad ('72 I think) and currently working in the Candidate Guidance Office. Please give them a chance. Greg Stimis, Little Rock, AR ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 1:15 PM Subject: usna-net: Midshippers.. > I have been trying for two days to get to the web site for the "care package" > people..I have left two messages on the machine ..you get no chance to talk to > a real person.....Help I need to send a package to my mid ..PNeves > (Douglas02) > > *** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela > > Visit OUR USNA-Net Website: www.navy-usna.org > > USNA Parents' Club Websites may be found at > www.neonap.org/clublinks.html > > We need NEW members! Tell your USNA friends, fellow Parents' Club Members and Officers about USNA-Net. Nag them into joining. They'll be glad you did. > -- > Sir! The Days! > Sir, there are 58 and a butt days until Days until Herndon!! (990521) > -- > *** USNA-NET post by: STIMIS Robert 02 STIMIS Greg&Gail ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA03506 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:02:00 -0600 (CST) From: HeyNita@aol.com Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:06:57 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Salutations Hello fellow USNA parents! My husband Dewey and I (Juanita) Chauvin are proud parents of plebe Andrew Chauvin. We are adjusting to life with a midshipman, and cherish those phone calls. Andrew is doing well and is a member of the Men's Varsity Swim Team. We live in Simi Valley, California, belong to the Annapolis Parents Club of S. Calif. Thanks for the helpful info. on usna-net. Juanita and Dewey Chauvin *** USNA-NET post by: CHAUVIN Andrew John 02 CHAUVIN Juanita ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA07025 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 00:37:21 -0600 (CST) From: "Janet Ferrara" To: "USNA Net" Cc: Subject: usna-net: Midshipman requests assistance with accomodations Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:42:51 -0800 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BA_01BE7647.A6F0B120" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BA_01BE7647.A6F0B120 charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, everyone, The following Midshipman's (he is from Calif) request was forwarded to = me by a member of Annapolis Parents' Club of Southern Calif. She = requested I place this on our WebPages. I thought that might be risky = for the Mids, looking to stay with strangers. (I'm not paranoid, but = many other people can "look at" our website.) Whereas our USNA Net list = of Parents are a group of names that have been verified (they are = members of a Parents Club, or family or Mids at the Academy, or Alumni) = by our list moderator.=20 My husband, Tom and I would love to host these Mids, but we are not on = the route. The nearest city to us in Murrieta would be Victorville, = which is 1 1/2 hours drive (by car). I do know of a two families, one in = Apple Valley and one in Joshua Tree, that might be willing to help.=20 Thanks,=20 Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, Calif. Webmaster of Annapolis Parents Club of Southern California www.web2000.com/usnapcsc Michael Ferrara, Class of 2000, Co. 15 The request from the Mid follows: This summer, I am going to lead a group of Midshipman across the country by bicycle. We need some help, please. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- - The trip will begin on 27MAY99 and end in California on 20JUN99. There are approximately 7 of us riding. If your town is on our list and you would be OK with us staying 1 night, please contact me with your name, address, email address (if you have one), and phone number. Contact me at: Timm Heisey m002742@nadn.navy.mil PO Box 13069 Annapolis, MD 21412 (410) 570-9176 Thanks you, any help is appreciated. Towns in Route of the Trans-USA Bicycle Ride Annapolis, MD Washington D.C. Annandale, VA Fairfax, VA Chantilly, VA Lenah, VA Aldie, VA Middleburg, VA Upperville, VA Paris, VA Millwood, VA Boyce, VA Winchester, VA Chambersville, VA Hayfield, VA Gore, VA Capon Bridge, WV Augusta, WV Romney, WV New Creek, WV Mount Storm, WV Gormania, WV Red House, MD Aurora, WV Macomber, WV Fellowsville, WV Evansville, WV Thornton, WV Grafton, WV Pruntytown, WV Wendel, WV Bridgeport, WV Clarksburg, WV Nutter Fort, WV Wilsonburg, WV Wolf Summit, WV East Salem, WV Salem, WV Smithburg, WV West Union, WV Greenwood, WV Tolgate, WV Pennsboro, WV Ellenboro, WV Nutter Farm, WV Deer Walk, WV Dallison, WV Murphytown, WV Parkersburg, WV Belpre, OH Porterfield, OH Little Hocking, OH Torch, OH Coolville, OH Tuppers Plains, OH Chester, OH Pomeroy, OH Mason, OH Athens, OH Hebbardsville, OH Albany, OH Harrisonville, OH Rutland, OH Langsville, OH Salem Center, OH Wilkesville, OH Clarion, OH Roads, OH Jackson, OH Beaver, OH Givens, OH Zahns Corners, OH Piketon, OH Jasper, OH Elm Grove, OH Peebles, OH Lawshe, OH Seaman, OH Winchester, OH Fincastle, OH Macon, OH Sardinia, OH White Oak, OH Mt. Orab, OH Williamsburg, OH Batavia, OH Olive Branch, OH Willowville, OH Cincinnati (South Side), OH Milford, OH Terrace Park, OH Mariemont, OH Fairfax, OH Dayton, OH Delhi Hills, OH Norwood, OH Addyston, OH North Bend, OH Cleves, OH Hooven, OH Greendale, IN Lawrenceburg, IN Wilmington, IN Aurora, IN Dillsboro, IN Elrod, IN Versailles, IN Holton, IN Nebraska, IN Butlerville, IN North Vernon, IN Hayden, IN Seymour, IN Brownstown, IN Erie, IN Bedford, IN Hartleyville, IN Tarry Park, IN Bryantsville, IN Huron, IN Willow Valley, IN Shoals, IN Ironton, IN Mt. Pleasant, IN Loogootee, IN Cannelburg, IN Montgomery, IN Black Oak, IN Washington, IN Maysville, IN Wheatland, IN Fritchton, IN Vincennes, IN Lawrenceville, IL Bridgeport, IL Sumner, IL Claremont, IL Olney, IL Noble, IL Clay City, IL Flora, IL Xenia, IL Iuka, IL Salem, IL Odin, IL Sandoval, IL Shattuc, IL Ferrin, IL Huey, IL Carlyle, IL Beckemeyer, IL Breese, IL Aviston, IL Trenton, IL Summerville, IL Lebanon, IL St. Louis (South Side), MO Swansea, IL E. St. Louis, IL Clayton, MO Maplewood, MO Rock Hill, MO Glendale, MO Shrewsbury, MO Webster Groves, MO Oakland, MO Sunset Hills, MO Crestwood, MO Murphy, MO Pacific, MO Gray Summit, MO Villa Ridge, MO Union, MO Leslie, MO Gerald, MO Rosebud, MO Owensville, MO Drake, MO Mt. Sterling, MO Linn, MO Loose Creek, MO Taos, MO Jefferson City, MO Eugene, MO Eldon, MO Lakeland, MO Lake Ozark, MO Osage Beach, MO Linn Creek, MO Camdenton, MO Macks Creek, MO Preston, MO Hermitage, MO Collins, MO Humansville, MO Cedar Springs, MO El Dorado Springs, MO Nevada, MO Deerfield, MO Ft. Scott, KS Redfield, KS Uniontown, KS Bronson, KS Moran, KS La Harpe, KS Gas, KS Iola, KS Piqua, KS Yates Center, KS Toronto, KS Neal, KS Eureka, KS Reece, KS Rosalia, KS El Dorado, KS Wichita, KS Goddard, KS Garden Plain, KS Waterloo, KS Kingman, KS Calista, KS Cunningham, KS Cairo, KS Pratt, KS Cullison, KS Wellsford, KS Haviland, KS Greensburg, KS Mullinville, KS Bucklin, KS Kingsdown, KS Bloom, KS Minneola, KS Fowler, KS Meade, KS Plains, KS Kismet, KS Liberal, KS Tyrone, OK Hooker, OK Optima, OK Guymon, OK Goodwell, OK Texhoma, OK Stratford, TX Conlen, TX Dalhart, TX Hartley, TX Channing, TX Vega, TX Ford, TX Hereford, TX Summerfield, TX Black, TX Friona, TX Bovina, TX Farwell, TX Texico, NM Clovis, NM Portales, NM Elida, NM Kenna, NM Elkins, NM Roswell, NM Picacho, NM Tinnie, NM Hondo, NM San Patricio, NM Lincoln, NM Capitan, NM Fort Stanton, NM Nogal, NM Carrizozo, NM Bingham, NM San Antonio, NM Socorro, NM Magdalena, NM Datil, NM Pie Town, NM Omega, NM Quemado, NM Springerville, AZ Eagar, AZ McNary, AZ Vernon, AZ Show Low, AZ Carrizo, AZ Seneca, AZ Globe, AZ Central Heights, AZ Miami, AZ=20 Clay Pool, AZ Superior, AZ Florence Jct., AZ Apache Jct., AZ Route 60 through Phoenix (Mesa, Gilbert, Guadalupe, Tempe, Scottsdale, Gelndale, Peoria, Sun City, Youngtown), AZ Surprise, AZ Beardsley, AZ Wittman, AZ Circle City, AZ Morristown, AZ Wickenburg, AZ Aguila, AZ Gladden, AZ Wenden, AZ Salome, AZ Harcuvar, AZ Hope, AZ Vicksburg, AZ Bouse, AZ Parker, AZ Earp, CA Big River, CA Vidal Jct., CA Rice, CA Twenty-Nine Palms, CA Joshua Tree, CA Yucca Valley, CA Lucerne Valley, CA Apple Valley, CA Victorville, CA Adelanto, CA Phelan, CA Littlerock, CA Pear Blossom, CA Vincent, CA Acton, CA Ravenna, CA Saugus, CA Valencia, CA Piru, CA Fillmore, CA Santa Paula, CA Saticoy, CA Montalvo, CA Ventura, CA Carpinteria, CA Summerland, CA Montecito, CA Santa Barbara, CA Goleta, CA Gaviota, CA ------=_NextPart_000_00BA_01BE7647.A6F0B120 charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi, everyone,
The following = Midshipman's=20 (he is from Calif) request was forwarded to me by a member of Annapolis = Parents'=20 Club of Southern Calif. She requested I place this on our WebPages. I = thought=20 that might be risky for the Mids, looking to stay with strangers. (I'm = not=20 paranoid, but many other people can "look at" our website.) = Whereas=20 our USNA Net list of Parents are a group of names that have been = verified (they=20 are members of a Parents Club, or family or Mids at the Academy, or = Alumni) by=20 our list moderator.
 
My husband, Tom and I would love to host these Mids, = but we=20 are not on the route. The nearest city to us in Murrieta would be = Victorville,=20 which is 1 1/2 hours drive (by car). I do know of a two families, one in = Apple=20 Valley and one in Joshua Tree, that might be willing to help. =
 
Thanks,
Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, = Calif.
Webmaster of Annapolis Parents  Club of Southern = California
www.web2000.com/usnapcsc
= Michael=20 Ferrara, Class of 2000, Co. 15
 
The request from the Mid = follows:
 
 
  This summer, I am going to lead a group of Midshipman across = the
country by bicycle.  We need some help,=20 please.
--------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------
-
The=20 trip will begin on 27MAY99 and end in California on 20JUN99.
There = are=20 approximately 7 of us riding.  If your town is on our list = and
you would=20 be OK with us staying 1 night, please contact me with your
name, = address,=20 email address (if you have one), and phone number.

Contact me = at:
Timm=20 Heisey
m002742@nadn.navy.mil
PO=20 Box 13069
Annapolis, MD  21412
(410) 570-9176

Thanks = you, any=20 help is appreciated.

Towns in Route of the Trans-USA Bicycle=20 Ride

Annapolis, MD
Washington D.C.
Annandale, = VA
Fairfax,=20 VA
Chantilly, VA
Lenah, VA
Aldie, VA
Middleburg, = VA
Upperville,=20 VA
Paris, VA
Millwood, VA
Boyce, VA
Winchester, = VA
Chambersville,=20 VA
Hayfield, VA
Gore, VA

Capon Bridge, WV
Augusta, = WV
Romney,=20 WV
New Creek, WV
Mount Storm, WV
Gormania, WV
Red House,=20 MD
Aurora, WV
Macomber, WV
Fellowsville, WV
Evansville,=20 WV
Thornton, WV
Grafton, WV
Pruntytown, WV
Wendel, = WV
Bridgeport,=20 WV
Clarksburg, WV
Nutter Fort, WV
Wilsonburg, WV
Wolf = Summit,=20 WV
East Salem, WV
Salem, WV
Smithburg, WV
West Union,=20 WV
Greenwood, WV
Tolgate, WV
Pennsboro, WV
Ellenboro, = WV
Nutter=20 Farm, WV
Deer Walk, WV
Dallison, WV
Murphytown, = WV
Parkersburg,=20 WV

Belpre, OH
Porterfield, OH
Little Hocking, OH
Torch,=20 OH
Coolville, OH
Tuppers Plains, OH
Chester, OH
Pomeroy,=20 OH
Mason, OH
Athens, OH
Hebbardsville, OH
Albany,=20 OH
Harrisonville, OH
Rutland, OH
Langsville, OH
Salem = Center,=20 OH
Wilkesville, OH
Clarion, OH
Roads, OH
Jackson, = OH
Beaver,=20 OH
Givens, OH
Zahns Corners, OH
Piketon, OH
Jasper, = OH
Elm Grove,=20 OH
Peebles, OH
Lawshe, OH
Seaman, OH
Winchester, = OH
Fincastle,=20 OH
Macon, OH
Sardinia, OH
White Oak, OH
Mt. Orab,=20 OH
Williamsburg, OH
Batavia, OH
Olive Branch, = OH
Willowville,=20 OH
Cincinnati (South Side), OH
Milford, OH
Terrace Park,=20 OH
Mariemont, OH
Fairfax, OH
Dayton, OH
Delhi Hills, = OH
Norwood,=20 OH
Addyston, OH
North Bend, OH
Cleves, OH
Hooven,=20 OH

Greendale, IN
Lawrenceburg, IN
Wilmington, IN
Aurora, = IN
Dillsboro, IN
Elrod, IN
Versailles, IN
Holton, = IN
Nebraska,=20 IN
Butlerville, IN
North Vernon, IN
Hayden, IN
Seymour,=20 IN
Brownstown, IN
Erie, IN
Bedford, IN
Hartleyville, = IN
Tarry=20 Park, IN
Bryantsville, IN
Huron, IN
Willow Valley, = IN
Shoals,=20 IN
Ironton, IN
Mt. Pleasant, IN
Loogootee, IN
Cannelburg,=20 IN
Montgomery, IN
Black Oak, IN
Washington, IN
Maysville,=20 IN
Wheatland, IN
Fritchton, IN
Vincennes,=20 IN




Lawrenceville, IL
Bridgeport, IL
Sumner,=20 IL
Claremont, IL
Olney, IL
Noble, IL
Clay City, IL
Flora, = IL
Xenia, IL
Iuka, IL
Salem, IL
Odin, IL
Sandoval, = IL
Shattuc,=20 IL
Ferrin, IL
Huey, IL
Carlyle, IL
Beckemeyer, IL
Breese, = IL
Aviston, IL
Trenton, IL
Summerville, IL
Lebanon, = IL

St.=20 Louis (South Side), MO
Swansea, IL
E. St. Louis, IL
Clayton,=20 MO
Maplewood, MO
Rock Hill, MO
Glendale, MO
Shrewsbury,=20 MO
Webster Groves, MO
Oakland, MO
Sunset Hills, = MO
Crestwood,=20 MO
Murphy, MO
Pacific, MO
Gray Summit, MO
Villa Ridge, = MO
Union,=20 MO
Leslie, MO
Gerald, MO
Rosebud, MO
Owensville, = MO
Drake,=20 MO
Mt. Sterling, MO
Linn, MO
Loose Creek, MO
Taos, = MO
Jefferson=20 City, MO
Eugene, MO
Eldon, MO
Lakeland, MO
Lake Ozark, = MO
Osage=20 Beach, MO
Linn Creek, MO
Camdenton, MO
Macks Creek, = MO
Preston,=20 MO
Hermitage, MO
Collins, MO
Humansville, MO
Cedar Springs, = MO
El=20 Dorado Springs, MO
Nevada, MO
Deerfield, MO

Ft. Scott,=20 KS
Redfield, KS
Uniontown, KS
Bronson, KS
Moran, KS
La = Harpe,=20 KS
Gas, KS
Iola, KS
Piqua, KS
Yates Center, KS
Toronto,=20 KS
Neal, KS
Eureka, KS
Reece, KS
Rosalia, KS
El Dorado,=20 KS
Wichita, KS
Goddard, KS
Garden Plain, KS
Waterloo, = KS
Kingman,=20 KS
Calista, KS
Cunningham, KS
Cairo, KS
Pratt, = KS
Cullison,=20 KS
Wellsford, KS
Haviland, KS
Greensburg, KS
Mullinville,=20 KS
Bucklin, KS
Kingsdown, KS
Bloom, KS
Minneola, = KS
Fowler,=20 KS
Meade, KS
Plains, KS
Kismet, KS
Liberal, = KS

Tyrone,=20 OK
Hooker, OK
Optima, OK
Guymon, OK
Goodwell, OK
Texhoma, = OK

Stratford, TX
Conlen, TX
Dalhart, TX
Hartley, = TX
Channing,=20 TX
Vega, TX
Ford, TX
Hereford, TX
Summerfield, TX
Black,=20 TX
Friona, TX
Bovina, TX
Farwell, TX

Texico, = NM
Clovis,=20 NM
Portales, NM
Elida, NM
Kenna, NM
Elkins, NM
Roswell,=20 NM
Picacho, NM
Tinnie, NM
Hondo, NM
San Patricio, = NM
Lincoln,=20 NM
Capitan, NM
Fort Stanton, NM
Nogal, NM
Carrizozo, = NM
Bingham,=20 NM
San Antonio, NM
Socorro, NM
Magdalena, NM
Datil, = NM
Pie Town,=20 NM
Omega, NM
Quemado, NM

Springerville, AZ
Eagar, = AZ
McNary,=20 AZ
Vernon, AZ
Show Low, AZ
Carrizo, AZ
Seneca, AZ
Globe,=20 AZ
Central Heights, AZ
Miami, AZ
Clay Pool, AZ
Superior,=20 AZ
Florence Jct., AZ
Apache Jct., AZ
Route 60 through Phoenix = (Mesa,=20 Gilbert, Guadalupe, Tempe, Scottsdale,
Gelndale, Peoria, Sun City,=20 Youngtown), AZ
Surprise, AZ
Beardsley, AZ
Wittman, AZ
Circle = City,=20 AZ
Morristown, AZ
Wickenburg, AZ
Aguila, AZ
Gladden, = AZ
Wenden,=20 AZ
Salome, AZ
Harcuvar, AZ
Hope, AZ
Vicksburg, AZ
Bouse,=20 AZ
Parker, AZ


Earp, CA
Big River, CA
Vidal Jct., = CA
Rice,=20 CA
Twenty-Nine Palms, CA
Joshua Tree, CA
Yucca Valley, = CA
Lucerne=20 Valley, CA
Apple Valley, CA
Victorville, CA
Adelanto, = CA
Phelan,=20 CA
Littlerock, CA
Pear Blossom, CA
Vincent, CA
Acton, = CA
Ravenna,=20 CA
Saugus, CA
Valencia, CA
Piru, CA
Fillmore, CA
Santa = Paula,=20 CA
Saticoy, CA
Montalvo, CA
Ventura, CA
Carpinteria,=20 CA
Summerland, CA
Montecito, CA
Santa Barbara, CA
Goleta,=20 CA
Gaviota, CA


------=_NextPart_000_00BA_01BE7647.A6F0B120-- *** USNA-NET post by: FERRARA Michael 00 FERRARA Janet&Tom ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA27121 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:14:55 -0600 (CST) From: Sdalziel@aol.com Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 19:19:02 EST To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Fwd: usna-net: Midshippers.. boundary="part0_922407545_boundary" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_922407545_boundary Content-ID: <0_922407545@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> The following is a reply I sent to the mom who needed to get a care package to her mid... Thought perhaps there are others who might like to use this wonderful cookie service...they deliver this Sat, March 27th and then again on May 1. The United Methodist Church, Attn: Beverly Henry, 301 Rowe Blvd., Annapolis, MD. 21401. Chocolate chip cookies are only $2.00 per dozen. They would need the following information, along with your check for the amount of cookies ordered: Mids Name & Company#: Sender's Name: Sender's Address: Sender's Phone Number: Message you would like included on the card: Cookies are baked at the church and delivered fresh to the mids on the following remaining dates: March 27 & May 1. When I asked if I could pass this