~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA15098 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 06:23:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Dooby1424@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 07:31:58 EDT Subject: usna-net: Sprint Phones To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Good Morning To All! About the cell phone thing. My son has AT&T. It is a good service, but very expensive. He has been getting 600 minutes a month (no extra charge for long distance) at $90.00 per month. After Herndon this year, we took my daughter to the Sprint Store in Annapolis. They were terrific. Because she is in the military, they took $100.00 off the price of the phone ($129.00 value...cost to my Mid $29.00). The 600 minute plan is $60.00. This includes long distance. The phone will inform her when she is roaming, so that she will use a pay phone at that point. (i.e., - if she is in the middle of nowhere) She has been calling friends all over the country this summer. The reception is terrific. The Sprint Store is just down the street from Outback Steak House. Check it out! Go Navy! Judy Steffen - Tempe, AZ Jim ('01) - Company 28 and Beth ('02) - Compnay 13 *** USNA-NET post by: STEFFEN James 01-28 and Elizabeth 02-13 STEFFEN Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA07778 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:58:09 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:05:14 EDT Subject: usna-net: I DAY IS DONE! To: usna-net@navy-usna.org It's about 11pm here in PA and I have just read my email after walking in the door. I just drove home from I Day at the Academy....and I thought I would give you all some details and observations! It was wonderful ( what else).....it was really fun to see I Day without the worry and I had a great time talking to all kinds of people.....I even met some members from this group! I went down to lend support to and answer questions from Plebe Parents in our area (we had 37 plebes at I Day).....The yellow bags that we had given them were easy to spot and several of them said that many people asked them where they had gotten them as they wanted one too.....(that makes me happy....it was a good idea) Anyway, some details.....the rain held off untill almost the very last prospective plebe had entered Alumni Hall....not quite but almost .......and then it came down with a vengence......and then stopped......and then started.....and then , well you know the drill......Prior to the rain I had a wonderful time going up and down the line and talking to our are parents and others who had questions...they looked like a great group of mids for the class of 03.....and eventually the rain stopped and induction was held outside....I think they all looked very confident and ready to go,......I saw very few tears,just a great bunch on kids ready to tackle a program that will mold them into officers.....I m tired so I'm going to sleep now....I am sure that in the morning I will be able to better relate some of the cute stories I saw happening..... GO NAVY Congradulations '03 Dindy Peter 00/25 *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA25223 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:30:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:37:06 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sandy and all... Just for the record. The Baycam has been a part of the USNA-Net website since it was revamped in February. The time, temperature icon on the top of the Home page is a link to the Baycam site. Your USNA-Net website: www.navy-usna.org has links and features too numerous to mention. Those of you who have not, should take a closer look. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA07535 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 04:37:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Bep33@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 05:45:30 EDT Subject: usna-net: Magazine Article To: usna-net@navy-usna.org The July-August issue of the magazine "The American Enterprise" has a cover story entitled "Deep Inside America's Military Academies". The cover picture is of Georgia's Will Wiley '00. The magazine is currently on sale. Brad Powers *** USNA-NET post by: POWERS Joshua Dustin 03-2 POWERS Brad ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA17891 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 07:27:05 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 08:34:52 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: http://www.go-navy.com or Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free)- A Great Care Package Service & Personal requests hot line . X-Accept-Language: en To: Bep33@aol.com, "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: usna-net: Magazine Article References: <72e2ec6a.24af35ba@aol.com> Hi Brad! I have not read the article, but some have mentioned that it was not a totally positive story. Some misquotes, gossip, more negatives than positives.etc. We should remind all parents and their Midn not to interview unless cleared through the Public Affairs Office..410-293-2291. It is for there own protection. Sometimes there are hidden agendas . GO NAVY!!BEAT ARMY Dolly Bep33@aol.com wrote: > > The July-August issue of the magazine "The American Enterprise" has a cover > story entitled "Deep Inside America's Military Academies". The cover picture > is of Georgia's Will Wiley '00. The magazine is currently on sale. > > Brad Powers > > *** USNA-NET post by: POWERS Joshua Dustin 03-2 POWERS Brad > > Spread the word about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > REMEMBER TO SEND YOUR MESSAGES IN PLAIN TEXT (ASCII) ! > If you don't see this message at the bottom of > your postings, you're not sending in Plain Text. > > Our website is www.navy-usna.org ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA01394 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 14:26:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Greg Stimis" To: "Mike Zets" Cc: "USNA Net" Subject: usna-net: Cell Phones Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 14:36:39 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01BEC561.75FD80C0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BEC561.75FD80C0 charset="iso-8859-1" Back to an old topic - your message of 5/8/99 mentioned an AT&T plan for = $.10/minute. The best AT&T deal I could find on a cell phone is the = Digital One Rate for $89.99/600 minutes (which works out to something = like $105 after taxes, etc.). My son's sponsor has that service and = loves it. She travels all over the US and hasn't paid a roaming charge, = etc., ever. However, the Sprint people say that, as long as you = originate your call in a Sprint PCS digital area (which, I have heard, = Bancroft Hall is - although other parts of Annapolis aren't), they will = connect you to anywhere in the US - and their 600 minute rate is = $69.95/month. Even if he has to "roam" more often (due to the = geographical limitations of the Sprint PCS system), can't he recover the = cost of the roaming from the $20 he will save. Since he will certainly = originate the great majority of his calls from Bancroft, can't he save = money with Sprint (at the cost of some mobility). Also, they say that, = theoretically, my son could get a Sprint phone locally (A/C 501) and our = calls to him would be local. The down side is that, to check his = voicemail messages, he would have to make a long distance call (to A/C = 501). Since we do not plan to call him (except, of course, in case of = emergency) - Instant Messenger has worked VERY well - he will likely = get a 410 A/C phone. Your thoughts? Can you provide any more info re = the AT&T plan you are talking about. I'm going up to Annapolis for B&G = training on July 11 and will probably make a purchase then. Thanks in = advance. Greg Stimis, Little Rock (Rob, '02, 29) =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BEC561.75FD80C0 charset="iso-8859-1"
Back to an old topic - your message of 5/8/99 = mentioned an=20 AT&T plan for $.10/minute.  The best AT&T deal I could find = on a=20 cell phone is the Digital One Rate for $89.99/600 minutes (which works = out to=20 something like $105 after taxes, etc.).  My son's sponsor has that = service=20 and loves it.  She travels all over the US and hasn't paid a = roaming=20 charge, etc., ever.  However, the Sprint people say that, as long = as you=20 originate your call in a Sprint PCS digital area (which, I have heard, = Bancroft=20 Hall is - although other parts of Annapolis aren't), they will connect = you to=20 anywhere in the US - and their 600 minute rate is $69.95/month.  = Even if he=20 has to "roam" more often (due to the geographical limitations of the = Sprint PCS=20 system), can't he recover the cost of the roaming from the $20 he will=20 save.  Since he will certainly originate the great majority of his = calls=20 from Bancroft, can't he save money with Sprint (at the cost of some=20 mobility).  Also, they say that, theoretically, my son could get a = Sprint=20 phone locally (A/C 501) and our calls to him would be local.  The = down side=20 is that, to check his voicemail messages, he would have to make a long = distance=20 call (to A/C 501).  Since we do not plan to call him (except, of = course, in=20 case of emergency) - Instant Messenger has worked VERY well - he will = likely=20 get a 410 A/C phone. Your thoughts?  Can you provide any more info = re the=20 AT&T plan you are talking about.  I'm going up to = Annapolis for=20 B&G training on July 11 and will probably make a purchase then. = Thanks in=20 advance.  Greg Stimis, Little Rock (Rob, '02,=20 29)     
------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BEC561.75FD80C0-- *** USNA-NET post by: STIMIS Robert 02 STIMIS Greg & Gale ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA06489 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:12:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" To: "" References: <004601bec58b$5ffa0760$8ad5dacd@fyrd0> Subject: Re: usna-net: Cell Phones Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:14:58 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To Greg Stimis and all... I have an AT&T 6160 Nokia Digital Phone ($199 retail) and get 1,000 minutes per month for $119 plus about $12 in taxes. I travel across the country and have found that it works just about everywhere plus it supports my digital modem in my laptop for on-the-road email. The plan has no roaming charges (a BIG plus) and no long distance charges in the U.S. (bummer in Canada!) Sandi just picked up a Sprint Digital, mostly for emergencies and such. She pays $29.95 plus tax for 120 minutes per month - No long distance and no roaming charges inside the Sprint digital network which is most major US cities and along most major highways. She also does not get charged for calls (in or out) of less than a minute - great for short "Running late. Don't worry." messages, etc. I had a GTE MobileNet digital phone that I ended up returning after three months and terminating the service contract because of miserable service. It was almost unusable anywhere but at home. No service. No tech support. No nothin'. Stay away. A small reminder. Plebes can't have a phone. Period. No Walkman - No Music CD's. Pretty strick rules against such things. Also, Bancroft may be inside the Sprint digital network but from what I am told, the reception inside the actual Building is very bad. Michael had to hang out a window to get a clear signal most of the time when using a friend's phone to call. Sandi and I are enrolled in AT&T's Personal Network Plan. We get all of our long distance calls from home, all calls using our calling card and all inbound calls on our personal 800 number for 10 cents per minute. We even got a big break on inbound International calls on our 800 number from Michael this summer from Paris, France at 22 cents per minute (vs $3.00 / min using conventional rates). It's a great deal if you're willing to enroll in the entire plan. I said I have a phone and Sandi has one. Michael doesn't. He says he really doesn't need one. Instead, he uses our calling card and 800 number. He just can't receive calls which is A-OK with him. He'd rather pick the time when he wants to talk with the outside world. Maybe he's on to something there. Most Mid's don't have time to be bothered by family and girlfriends while they're at the Yard. Plus, I don't think he wants to be too easily tracked down by friends when he's away from the Yard. Hope this helps, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA06919 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:35:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Countdown Clock... Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 23:44:18 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... Okay, I decided that there are other things to look forward to at USNA besides Plebe Parent's Weekend. (As important as it is!!) My Mid is a firstie, so I thought that a countdown clock to Firstie Parent's Weekend (September 17-19) might be in order. Also, I know how much everyone loves the Army-NAVY football game in December, so there is a countdown clock for it, as well. Just go to the USNA-Net website at: www.navy-usna.org Click on "Countdown Clock" from the menu on the left. The army graphic is from the West Point website, but the Navy one I created this evening. Hope you like it. Sandi (Michael, Class of 2000, 10th Company ) Westlake, Ohio www.cyberdrive.net/~poetscorner *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA21526 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:51:30 -0500 (CDT) From: EFi3346410@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 17:00:10 EDT Subject: usna-net: Thought for Day To: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org, usna-net@navy-usna.org While the plebe parents would love to hear the sound of their plebe's voices or get and email from their plebe, the rest of us know that soon enough the voices do call and the emails do come. And soon enough the message is the same that college parents around the world get, "Send Money!" We send it and wonder "Did they get the money?", and the answer is yes, or you would have heard from them again! Lynn Fisher Jamie 02 25th St. Louis. *** USNA-NET post by: FISHER Jamie K. 02-25 FISHER Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA04319 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 21:15:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: UPDATE from the Front Office... Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:23:50 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... I hope that you've all had a safe and happy holiday weekend. Sandi and I have been very busy. Here's what been going on... NEW MEMBERS... We've been signing on new members like we're giving something away for free. (Actually, we are.) On Friday night, we had 298 members in USNA-Net. As of this writing, we are at 307. And it keeps on coming. I think that the Advertisements in Trident last week and this have brought in some extras that we wouldn't have subscribed otherwise. Most new members for the past month have been (You guessed it.) Plebe Parents. Let's all extend a welcome to those that have just signed on and exercise a little patience while they all get adjusted to how things run on our Lists. WEBSITE STUFF @ www.navy-usna.org... We've put up three countdown clocks to help pass the time between now and Plebe Parents Weekend, Firstie Parents Weekend and the infamous NAVY-army game. You can access them from the Main Menu on the main page. We added a description under the Time and Temp Icon on the main page as well. It seems that more than a few members did not realize this was Annapolis Info and that clicking on the Icon takes you to a 24 Hour LIVE view of the Boat Basin in Annapolis. For the early birds, don't miss watching sunrise. The view can be breathtaking at times. This week we also added the Plebe Humor page for those that will come to appreciate it over the next few months as the Class of 2003 finishes Plebe Summer and moves into the Academic Year. TIPS FOR THE WEBSITE... - The site is best viewed at a screen resolution of 600 x 800. Low resolution settings on your monitor will introduce Scroll Bars that go away in a higher resolution. - The site uses FRAMES which means that for the best performance you should be using either MSIE 4.0 or Netscape Navigator 4.0 or higher. (These browsers don't support frames: Web TV 1, AOL 2.5 / Windows, AOL 2.7 / Macintosh, Internet Explorer 2, Lynx 2.5, Mosaic 2.11, Netscape 1.1 or any of these that are earlier versions.) - While we're talking about AOL... A member noted that she could not view the countdown clock. AOL does not support Java Applets and they won't appear for you if you're using the AOL web viewer. Get a copy of MSIE or Netscape Navigator and use it instead. - Our site counter at the bottom of the Main Menu uses bitmap images for the numbers and is not visible in any version of Netscape. MSIE shows them rolling over as each new hit is made and plays a little computer sound each time. If you can't even see the counter frame, your screen resolution is set too low or your default text size is too big. ADVICE FOR THE NEW MEMBERS... - Read the Welcome Message at http://www.navy-usna.org/welcome.html. It contains very important information that you will be tested on later this week! (Only Kidding.) :>) - Read the Rules of Operation. We're very serious about them on these Lists. (Not Kidding.) - Read our Netiquette page. It will help a lot in understanding how and what to say in a posting. - Never send the same message to BOTH Lists. Everyone is on USNA-Net and most of those are ALSO on USNA-Plebe. - Don't send postings in RTF (Rich Text Format). Our server has trouble sending them on to the membership and some members don't have email programs that will show them properly. Send postings ONLY is Plain Text (ASCII) format. If you see Icons for BOLD, ITALIC or FONT at the top of your email composition screen when you are composing your message, it is being made up in RTF. Don't send it that way. - Don't send a message to a member AND to a List that the member belongs to - either directly or via "CC:" He/she will get it twice. Once from the direct address and once again as a member of the list. - Don't send a message to the list that contains an answer to a question or a follow-on to a conversation that has taken place "Off-Net." No one else on the list will know what you're talking about. - If a question should be answered directly to the questioner, then send the answer only to him/her. If you feel that the entire group could benefit from hearing the answer, then send it to everyone. - Remember that every time you hit the send button you're sending out about 300 email messages. RE-READ your message BEFORE you hit the send button. Check it to see that it says what you want and THEN send it. If you forgot something trivial, let it go. Don't send out a correction message unless it's really important. - Listen in on the posting for a while if you're unsure of how this all works. You'll get the hang of it soon enough. - Remember that we hail from across the globe and encompass many DIFFERENT political, religious and racial communities. Leave out religious references all together, at all times. It's not that we don't believe. It's that many of us believe VERY differently than others. OK! THAT'S IT. I guess I'm done for the week with business stuff. If you have questions about the above, drop me a line at mzets@mail.com. If you have questions for group, by all means, post them and you'll be surprised at the number of answers that you will get. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA17375 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:32:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [4.3.224.71] From: George Dodge To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Hello message Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 08:41:21 EDT Hello to all. This is a great service. We are are one of the new members that signed up since Friday and I have been eagerly reading all postings ever since. We are Barbara and George Dodge, the parents of Damien A. Dodge, class of 03, Company C, 6th platoon. We hail from Manassas, VA (only about an hour and a half to two hours from Annapolis depending upon Washington DC area traffic). We will be joining the Nothern Virginia Parents Club shortly. I am a retired Army Colonel now working for a Computer Services company (GRC International, Inc.) in Northern Virginia. Barb and I met in Vietnam where she worked for the American Red Cross (Nov 70 - Nov 71) and I was an Army helicopter pilot (Sept 70 - Sept 71) in the 101st Airborne Division (Airmobile). Our family has seen service in several of the branches over time. Barb's father served in the Army in the Pacific during WWII while my father served in the Army in the European Theatre. Barb's father died when she was a teenager and her step father began his service in the Army Air Corps at the end of WWII then shifted to the Air Force when that service broke away from the Army, served in the Korean War and finally retired from the Air National Guard. My mother's brother served in the Navy in the Pacific in WWII and my paternal grandfather, George Flint Dodge, and his brother were both Navy about the turn of the century. George Flint Dodge (Damien's Great Grandfather) trained on Admiral Farragut's old sailing ship and then was assigned to a Dreadnought battleship. He was on the ship that returned the body of John Paul Jones from France (where he was originally interred) to the United States (now interred in the crypt below the USAN Chapel). He used to joke about having sailed with John Paul Jones. Barb and I home schooled Damien through the 8th grade. We thoroughly enjoyed the experience and it helped solve the problem of changing schools when I was reassigned. He then went to Seton High School, a private school in Manassas, VA. Damien performed very well academically, played piano, took Karate lessons, and was a member of the weight lifting club, but did not play any varsity sports. He was afraid that the lack of a varsity sport would hinder his acceptance at the Academy but fortunately it did not. We look forward to reading the postings and hope to take an active part in all areas associated with the USNA. May God Bless you all. Barb and George Dodge (Damien '03) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: DODGE Damien A 03-C DODGE George and Barbara ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA25909 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 11:52:50 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: rjohnson@preferred.com (Unverified) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 13:03:48 -0400 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: Ron Johnson Subject: usna-net: New Parents Hi, my name is Ron, my wife is Sandy and our son is Cale. He is class "03" Company "E" 10th We are in Piney Flats Tn. We did not attend I-day and have enjoyed all the info we have received from other parents. We are looking forward to Parents weekend. Our e-mail is rjohnson@preferred.com Go Navy! Beat Army! *** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSON Cale Wayne 03-E JOHNSON Ray and Sandy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA27079 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:42:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "USNANET" Subject: usna-net: shuttle Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:49:50 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 On Sunday July 11 my 3/C Mid will be returning to BWI after 6 weeks and 6 days at home. Two questions: 1. Is the shuttle running?? 2. Where does he report? He has YP and then CSTS. Nancy Brad (02/Co 19 Men's Glee Club) Missouri *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 npatters@mail.orion.org *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA27882 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:17:29 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 14:25:07 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: http://www.go-navy.com or Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free)- A Great Care Package Service & Personal requests hot line . X-Accept-Language: en To: Nancy Patterson , "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: usna-net: shuttle References: <000901bec70e$c8422440$0310dfd0@default> Hi Nancy..There is regular shuttle service to Annapolis from BWI. He should report to 3rd wing Deck 0 > That is the Naval Academy Summers Program Office and they will direct him & assign berthing. GO NAVY!!! Beat Army Dolly Nancy Patterson wrote: > > On Sunday July 11 my 3/C Mid will be returning to BWI after 6 weeks and 6 > days at home. > > Two questions: > > 1. Is the shuttle running?? > 2. Where does he report? > > He has YP and then CSTS. > Nancy > Brad (02/Co 19 Men's Glee Club) Missouri > *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* > Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net > (417) 743-2327 npatters@mail.orion.org > *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* > > *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy > > Spread the word about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > REMEMBER TO SEND YOUR MESSAGES IN PLAIN TEXT (ASCII) ! > If you don't see this message at the bottom of > your postings, you're not sending in Plain Text. > > Our website is www.navy-usna.org ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA13473 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:51:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carbaugh" To: Subject: usna-net: platoon and company questions Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2099 18:03:46 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all, First I would like to thank everyone and especially Dolly for the sharing of information. It has really helped to imagine where my plebe is at any given moment. My guess is many of us plebe parents feel the same. I know it cannot be as I imagine, but somehow it does help to feel connected. I also want to thank everyone who responded to my earlier question about insurance. I will be meeting with my insurance agents to discuss options. At this time I have another question about the configuration of companies and platoons. We have been trying to figure this out and have guessed that perhaps each platoon has 2 companies? In other words, 1st and 2nd = A company 3 & 4 = B This appears true until late in the alphabet based on addresses I already have. I'm guessing one letter must be skipped somewhere. Perhaps some of the upperclass parents could help us lowly plebe parents figure this out....Thank you in advance for your answers. Glenda Carbaugh Brian03 30 Platoon P Company Go Navy....BEAT ARMY *** USNA-NET post by: CARBAUGH Glenda 03 CARBAUGH Glenda and Marty ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA20592 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:23:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Navymom02@aol.com Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:31:08 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: platoon and company questions To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Although I don't have an answer to your question regarding companies and platoons, I do have a funny point to make. You asked if they skip over a letter in naming companies. The letter skipped is J - the corresponding name is Juliet - which was the name of Custer's company which was totally wiped out in battle. They have since stopped using J-Juliet as a company anywhere in the military. Sad news is my daughter, Juliet, who aspires to the USNA class of 04, thinks perhaps she should change her name. Oh well!! Go Navy, Mary Cannici, NJ Rich, 02, 22nd *** USNA-NET post by: CANNICI Richard J. 02-22 CANNICI Richard and Mary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA22628 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:41:18 -0500 (CDT) From: rdropek@uswest.net Delivered-To: fixup-usna-net@navy-usna.org@fixme Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 19:53:37 -0600 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Brigade Organization Hi, Here's the Brigade Organization, from the smallest unit to the largest... Fire Team Squad Platoon Company Battalion Regiment Brigade During Plebe Summer, the companies are listed alphabetically, and Juliet Company may be skipped. Our son said there is no "J" Company because that was Custer's Company and no one wants to follow in those footsteps. Pam Dropek Sandy, UT Ryan, '01 22nd CO, Plebe Summer Weapons Detail *** USNA-NET post by: DROPEK Ryan Bradley 01-22 DROPEK Rich and Pam ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA03628 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:46:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "George F. Halcovage, Jr." To: Subject: usna-net: Correction of Company Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:01:11 -0100 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Just a quick note that my daughter's correct company is 11th Co. Sorry if my last email caused any confusion. I'm sure I'll get it all right by the time she reaches First Class. Have a great week! George Halcovage Barbara 03/ 11th Co. *** USNA-NET post by: HALCOVAGE Barbara M. 03-F HALCOVAGE George and Barbara ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA05787 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:46:21 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:53:56 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: http://www.go-navy.com or Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free)- A Great Care Package Service & Personal requests hot line . X-Accept-Language: en To: Nancy Patterson , "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: usna-net: shuttle References: <000901bec70e$c8422440$0310dfd0@default> <3780F883.7BC4F72A@go-navy.com> <000801bec715$df19c040$0410dfd0@default> Hi Nancy!! It is an airport shuttle. Called "Super Shuttle". For reservations, although not necessary..1-800-258-3826. Located between gates 3& 4 in baggage claim at BWI. They give Mids a reduced rate of $19.00 vs $28. If not in uniform, make sure they ask for Midn rate. Because of so many different report times, not cost effective for USNA to provide shuttle. Cabs run from $28-$35..Limos are best deal if you have a group of four or more. Might be some more out there not sure. They do not get reimbursed for travel expenses. Nancy Patterson wrote: > > Is that the USNA shuttle or an airport shuttle? Do you know the cost? > Thanks a MILLION!!! > Nancy > P.S. By the way do they get reimbursed for travel expenses, ie the > shuttle?? > *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* > Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net > (417) 743-2327 npatters@mail.orion.org > *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA07993 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 01:34:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:47:10 -0700 From: Susan Lemerande To: Dolly Pantelides CC: Nancy Patterson , "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: usna-net: shuttle References: <000901bec70e$c8422440$0310dfd0@default> <3780F883.7BC4F72A@go-navy.com> <000801bec715$df19c040$0410dfd0@default> <378199F4.C81B72B0@go-navy.com> Super Shuttle is good but only runs (as I recall) till 11 pm. On one trip, Ted's flight was due in at 10:35 or something like that so we thought he had it made. Ha! Plane late -- no shuttle! Luckily he found another mid in the same situation and they paired up and took a cab to Bancroft. Cost was ok once they split it. Anyway, research is worth its weight. Best to all! Susan Ted '01 17th (currently at home watching TV -- yippeee!) Dolly Pantelides wrote: > Hi Nancy!! > It is an airport shuttle. Called "Super Shuttle". For reservations, > although not necessary..1-800-258-3826. Located between gates 3& 4 in > baggage claim at BWI. They give Mids a reduced rate of $19.00 vs $28. > If not in uniform, make sure they ask for Midn rate. Because of so many > different report times, not cost effective for USNA to provide shuttle. > Cabs run from $28-$35..Limos are best deal if you have a group of four > or more. Might be some more out there not sure. > They do not get reimbursed for travel expenses. > > Nancy Patterson wrote: > > > > Is that the USNA shuttle or an airport shuttle? Do you know the cost? > > Thanks a MILLION!!! > > Nancy > > P.S. By the way do they get reimbursed for travel expenses, ie the > > shuttle?? > > *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* > > Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net > > (417) 743-2327 npatters@mail.orion.org > > *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* -- A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that is in your heart, chaff and grain together, knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, keep only what is worth keeping, and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. ----- Susan Lemerande lemonade@ivic.net *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA08362 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 01:55:32 -0500 (CDT) RECP: Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 03:02:46 -0400 From: Dolly Pantelides Organization: http://www.go-navy.com or Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free)- A Great Care Package Service & Personal requests hot line . X-Accept-Language: en To: Susan Lemerande CC: Nancy Patterson , "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: usna-net: shuttle References: <000901bec70e$c8422440$0310dfd0@default> <3780F883.7BC4F72A@go-navy.com> <000801bec715$df19c040$0410dfd0@default> <378199F4.C81B72B0@go-navy.com> <3781A66E.C8312687@ivic.net> Hi Susan..They must have changed. They now run 24hrs a day...Go NAVY!!! Dolly Susan Lemerande wrote: > > Super Shuttle is good but only runs (as I recall) till 11 pm. On one trip, > Ted's flight was due in at 10:35 or something like that so we thought he had > it made. Ha! Plane late -- no shuttle! Luckily he found another mid in > the same situation and they paired up and took a cab to Bancroft. Cost was > ok once they split it. Anyway, research is worth its weight. > > Best to all! > > Susan > > Ted '01 17th (currently at home watching TV -- yippeee!) > > Dolly Pantelides wrote: > > > Hi Nancy!! > > It is an airport shuttle. Called "Super Shuttle". For reservations, > > although not necessary..1-800-258-3826. Located between gates 3& 4 in > > baggage claim at BWI. They give Mids a reduced rate of $19.00 vs $28. > > If not in uniform, make sure they ask for Midn rate. Because of so many > > different report times, not cost effective for USNA to provide shuttle. > > Cabs run from $28-$35..Limos are best deal if you have a group of four > > or more. Might be some more out there not sure. > > They do not get reimbursed for travel expenses. > > > > Nancy Patterson wrote: > > > > > > Is that the USNA shuttle or an airport shuttle? Do you know the cost? > > > Thanks a MILLION!!! > > > Nancy > > > P.S. By the way do they get reimbursed for travel expenses, ie the > > > shuttle?? > > > *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* > > > Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net > > > (417) 743-2327 npatters@mail.orion.org > > > *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* > > -- > A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that > is in your heart, chaff and grain together, > knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, > keep only what is worth keeping, > and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. > > ----- > > Susan Lemerande > lemonade@ivic.net > > *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan > > Spread the word about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > REMEMBER TO SEND YOUR MESSAGES IN PLAIN TEXT (ASCII) ! > If you don't see this message at the bottom of > your postings, you're not sending in Plain Text. > > Our website is www.navy-usna.org ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA14326 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 02:21:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 00:34:22 -0700 From: Susan Lemerande To: Dolly Pantelides CC: Nancy Patterson , "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: usna-net: shuttle References: <000901bec70e$c8422440$0310dfd0@default> <3780F883.7BC4F72A@go-navy.com> <000801bec715$df19c040$0410dfd0@default> <378199F4.C81B72B0@go-navy.com> <3781A66E.C8312687@ivic.net> <3781AA16.FE2A5F7D@go-navy.com> Thanks for the update, Dolly. I have not checked on them since January when Ted returned from Christmas leave so it very well could have changed and I hope so. A traveler is really powerless when it comes to a late arriving airplane. If it were my son or daughter traveling, though, I'd still check on it. Seems as though they operated past 11 pm but not to Annapolis since it's kind of out of the way -- but I'm only going on memory and it is generally not a very good memory. Dolly Pantelides wrote: > Hi Susan..They must have changed. They now run 24hrs a day...Go > NAVY!!! Dolly > > Susan Lemerande wrote: > > > > Super Shuttle is good but only runs (as I recall) till 11 pm. On one trip, > > Ted's flight was due in at 10:35 or something like that so we thought he had > > it made. Ha! Plane late -- no shuttle! Luckily he found another mid in > > the same situation and they paired up and took a cab to Bancroft. Cost was > > ok once they split it. Anyway, research is worth its weight. > > > > Best to all! > > > > Susan > > > > Ted '01 17th (currently at home watching TV -- yippeee!) > > > > Dolly Pantelides wrote: > > > > > Hi Nancy!! > > > It is an airport shuttle. Called "Super Shuttle". For reservations, > > > although not necessary..1-800-258-3826. Located between gates 3& 4 in > > > baggage claim at BWI. They give Mids a reduced rate of $19.00 vs $28. > > > If not in uniform, make sure they ask for Midn rate. Because of so many > > > different report times, not cost effective for USNA to provide shuttle. > > > Cabs run from $28-$35..Limos are best deal if you have a group of four > > > or more. Might be some more out there not sure. > > > They do not get reimbursed for travel expenses. > > > > > > Nancy Patterson wrote: > > > > > > > > Is that the USNA shuttle or an airport shuttle? Do you know the cost? > > > > Thanks a MILLION!!! > > > > Nancy > > > > P.S. By the way do they get reimbursed for travel expenses, ie the > > > > shuttle?? > > > > *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* > > > > Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net > > > > (417) 743-2327 npatters@mail.orion.org > > > > *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* > > > > -- > > A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that > > is in your heart, chaff and grain together, > > knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, > > keep only what is worth keeping, > > and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. > > > > ----- > > > > Susan Lemerande > > lemonade@ivic.net > > > > *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan > > > > Spread the word about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > > > REMEMBER TO SEND YOUR MESSAGES IN PLAIN TEXT (ASCII) ! > > If you don't see this message at the bottom of > > your postings, you're not sending in Plain Text. > > > > Our website is www.navy-usna.org > . -- A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that is in your heart, chaff and grain together, knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, keep only what is worth keeping, and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. ----- Susan Lemerande lemonade@ivic.net *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA06447 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 02:41:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 00:53:46 -0700 From: Susan Lemerande To: Naval Academy Parents Subject: usna-net: Welcome! Just a word of welcome to all you new folks out there, especially Plebe parents. Scary, ain't it? Your sons and daughters have realized their dreams, met this goal and are now in the hands of people you don't know, doing more running and sweating and pushups and heaven-knows-what else than ever before. My Mid had gone through boot camp the summer before Plebe summer so it wasn't as awful for me (or him) as it was for others, but I know you must be worried a little, happy but sad, and counting the days till parents' weekend. Be sure to write letters and send sappy cards. Cheery stuff. I'll never forget the look on Ted's face when I finally got up close to him at parents' weekend -- he was glowing and the first thing he did was point to his shoulder boards, thrilled that his ranks were on his shoulders and not his collar. Last Friday we attended Marine boot camp graduation in San Diego for a good friend and Ted went in his whites. So many extremely young and frightened-looking recruits in BDUs looked at him and just did not know what to do, did not know what he was. Ranks on his shoulders was all they saw, I think, so they saluted, though with hesitance. They were babies, so unsure of EVERYTHING. It gets better. Again, welcome. Don't forget to announce your mid's birthday and email address so he or she can get greetings from all over the world (Moyra!) from people they don't even know. GO NAVY! Best regards, Susan -- A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that is in your heart, chaff and grain together, knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, keep only what is worth keeping, and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. ----- Susan Lemerande lemonade@ivic.net *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA13907 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 05:18:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "Rhonda Densmore" To: "USNA-NET" Subject: Fw: usna-net: Welcome! Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 05:29:51 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 ----- Original Message ----- From: Rhonda Densmore To: Susan Lemerande Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 5:25 AM Subject: Re: usna-net: Welcome! > Susan and All, > > In a previous message from Mike, our Webmaster, he stated that it is > STRICTLY AGAINST Navy policy to give out a Mids e-mail address without his > or her permission. There is something called The Privacy Act which forbids > this. I remember seeing something about it in the packet Dave received > prior to his I-Day. Susan, I don't mean to be critical. Mike stated that > our net could get in a lot of trouble if the Navy thought we were trying to > give out the addresses of Mids. > > I must be the only one up this time of day. I am watching the sunrise over > the harbor in Annapolis. As Mike mentioned, you can see this on the baycam > by clicking on the temperature at the top of the web page. It is gorgeous!! > > Wishing you all a good day, > Rhonda Densmore > Dave Tickle '02, 22nd > Trussville, Alabama (suburb of Birmingham) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Susan Lemerande > To: Naval Academy Parents > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 2:53 AM > Subject: usna-net: Welcome! > > > > Just a word of welcome to all you new folks out there, especially Plebe > > parents. Scary, ain't it? Your sons and daughters have realized their > > dreams, met this goal and are now in the hands of people you don't know, > > doing more running and sweating and pushups and heaven-knows-what else > > than ever before. > > > > My Mid had gone through boot camp the summer before Plebe summer so it > > wasn't as awful for me (or him) as it was for others, but I know you > > must be worried a little, happy but sad, and counting the days till > > parents' weekend. Be sure to write letters and send sappy cards. > > Cheery stuff. > > > > I'll never forget the look on Ted's face when I finally got up close to > > him at parents' weekend -- he was glowing and the first thing he did was > > point to his shoulder boards, thrilled that his ranks were on his > > shoulders and not his collar. > > > > Last Friday we attended Marine boot camp graduation in San Diego for a > > good friend and Ted went in his whites. So many extremely young and > > frightened-looking recruits in BDUs looked at him and just did not know > > what to do, did not know what he was. Ranks on his shoulders was all > > they saw, I think, so they saluted, though with hesitance. They were > > babies, so unsure of EVERYTHING. > > > > It gets better. > > > > Again, welcome. Don't forget to announce your mid's birthday and email > > address so he or she can get greetings from all over the world (Moyra!) > > from people they don't even know. > > > > GO NAVY! > > > > Best regards, > > > > Susan > > > > -- > > A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that > > is in your heart, chaff and grain together, > > knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, > > keep only what is worth keeping, > > and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. > > > > ----- > > > > Susan Lemerande > > lemonade@ivic.net > > > > > > > > *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan > > > > > Spread the word about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > > > REMEMBER TO SEND YOUR MESSAGES IN PLAIN TEXT (ASCII) ! > > If you don't see this message at the bottom of > > your postings, you're not sending in Plain Text. > > > > Our website is www.navy-usna.org > > > > > *** USNA-NET post by: TICKLE David Allen 02-22 DENSMORE Rhonda ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA15930 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 06:15:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Birthday Greetings. Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:23:58 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... Ok. Let me set the record straight about Birthday greetings, email etc. to our Mids. FACTS... 1.) Every Mid has a right to PRIVACY. USNA will enforce this right with vigor. 2.) Moms love to brag about their Mids and send lots of mail. 3.) Most Mids (especially Plebes) love getting mail. 4.) The USNA does NOT want information about Mids given out to the general public. We have a bit a problem with conflicting needs here. SOLUTION: If you are a relative of a Mid AND you know for FACT that your Mid would appreciate a greeting card or email on his/her birthday (even if it's from a stranger), then feel free to post his/her email address or PO Box to the other members of the net. Your Mid will probably get forty or fifty birthday greetings as a result. If, however, you're not sure, then DON'T SAY A WORD! It's better to say nothing than to cause a problem for your Mid. (Your Plebe MAY also get a lot of extra harassment from Upper Classmen over the mail and, if they find out it's his/her birthday, a lot of extra STUFF to deal with on that day. BUT it depends on his/her company and the Upper Classmen that find out. It varies widely.) That's the "Official" Moderator Response. (Personally, I think it's a great idea and one that will brighten your Mids special day. As the great Douglas Adams once said, it's "Mostly Harmless." Although, he was speaking of the entire planet, not just your personal center of the Galaxy, your Midshipman.) On a related note... In one of the postings in the past day or so, a parent gave out the name of a roommate of her Mid and asked to hear from the parents of that roommate. First, THAT is more of a violation of the Privacy Act than the birthday thing. The USNA guards all Mid related info (including who rooms with whom) very closely. Next, remember that there are about 4,000 Mids on the yard and we number just over 300 parents - less than ten percent. The likelihood of the roommate's parents being a member of the net is pretty slim. Maybe in a year or two the numbers will be different but for now it's unlikely to find the person you're seeking by asking, via the net, for them to respond. That's about it. If you have questions or comments about these matters, please respond directly to me at mzets@mail.com rather than discussing them over the net. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA17194 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:14:31 -0500 (CDT) From: KSzerdy@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 08:22:35 EDT Subject: usna-net: Plebe by Hank Turnowski -- a different perspective. To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Dear Plebe Parents, My son was a Plebe last year, and I could not stomach the book, Plebe, at that time. I started the book during his Plebe summer, but after about page 30 had to put it back on the shelf until a future time. I couldn't handle reading about those things Darren really didn't want me to know about at that time anyway. Some things are better not known by Moms still haunted by their departing Plebes' faces. Besides, many policies have changed at the Academy since 1971. The physical severity of some of the actions by upper class as portrayed in the book simply are not permitted on the Yard anymore. Also, according to a friend of mine who graduated with Turnowski, there are several inaccuracies in the book, such as the date on which USNA was founded! Just the other day, Darren gave me a copy of A Sense of Honor, and I think I'm ready to take him up on his invitation. Sincerely yours, Kathy, Orlando, FL (Darren, 02/11th, Crew) *** USNA-NET post by: SZERDY Darren 02-11 SZERDY Kathline ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA21342 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 08:11:58 -0500 (CDT) From: BJSBURNS@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:19:17 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Plebe by Hank Turnowski -- a different perspective. To: KSzerdy@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Dear Kathy and all, I too could not finish "Plebe" by Turowski. I thought it was poorly written, but every plebe I spoke with who read it liked it and said that although things are very different now, they could identify with some info in the book. On the other hand I really enjoyed the Return of Philo McGiffin, Sense of Honor, and Annapolis by Wm. Martin. Best regards, Joyce Burns *** USNA-NET post by: BURNS Steven R. 02-17 BURNS Bob and Joyce ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA19968 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:58:27 -0500 (CDT) From: jj.gw.houston@juno.com To: usna-net@navy-usna.org, usna-plebe-owner@west-point.org Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:59:30 -0500 Subject: usna-net: Academy Parents Prayer Net X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-3,5,7-9,11-29,31-37,39-43 X-Juno-Att: 0 The Academy Parents Prayer Net was formed as a spiritual support for cadets at West Point as well as midshipmen at Annapolis. Subscribers are mostly West Point parents with a few Annapolis parents. They have tried to make it general to 'academies' and would welcome other academy parents who wish to participate but I'm not sure how they would connect. Those of you who wish to join over 200 other academy families in prayer for our cadets/midshipmen and families are welcome to subscribe to the prayer net listserve. We have witnessed miracles in many lives and shared spiritual support in times of great need. The prayer-net was established as a listserver of the WPP-net on September 16, 1997. The impetus for a prayer-net came as a result of a request from a cadet for prayer for a seriously injured plebe. A message was posted with information that the Air Force Academy had a parent prayer-net. It has taken off from there. Dolf Beil was instrumental in setting up the listserver and in mentoring its management. We are indebted to his service and support. Thank you Dolf! MISSION STATEMENT: Prayer-net is a listserver devoted to providing a communication link between WP-org members (parents, grads, and staff) who desire to use the power of prayer to rally spiritual support on group issues as well as specific concerns e.g. illness or injury,in supporting members of the West Point and Annapolis communities. You may subscribe by sending your request to Ruth at < MnRMcDhu@ix.netcom.com> All prayer requests are posted through the moderator so as to protect privacy of parties involved. If you have questions or need further information, please feel free to contact Ruth at the above address. You will receive a monthly update of prayer concerns as well as reports of answered prayers. Glyndell Houston Joe '02/28 *** USNA-NET post by: HOUSTON John J. 02 HOUSTON John and Glyndell ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA20785 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:28:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael" To: , "USNA-NET" Subject: usna-net: Thanks Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:41:26 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mr. Stearns- Thanks from the proud Dad of a detailer. Michael Spinelli Joseph 01/9 Orlando, FL *** USNA-NET post by: SPINELLI Joseph 01-9 SPINELLI Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA01316 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:43:07 -0500 (CDT) From: USNADAD03@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:51:07 EDT Subject: usna-net: (no subject) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org To All: Looking for parents with plebes in the H Company. My name is Paul Napierkowski Philadelphia, PA . This is going to be some ride for the next four years. Go Navy Beat Army Paul Napierkowski Chris 03 *** USNA-NET post by: NAPIERKOWSKI Christopher 03 NAPIERKOWSKI Paul ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA14471 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:44:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1980 07:23:57 -0800 From: Stanford To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: reif points vs briefpoints Hello everyone. First I wanted to say that it was my mid who "corrected" someone by emphasizing that it is Reif Points, and caused such a commotion. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Secondly I have enjoyed all the information and pictures from the YP cruises. Tim will be flying back this Saturday for his YP cruise. I am hoping that someone on the east coast will send in stories and pictures. I know that I will not leasrn anything from Tim. Linda Stanford Tim 02/23 Indiana *** USNA-NET post by: STANFORD Timothy 02-23 STANFORD Linda ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA18655 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:35:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Navymom02@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:43:48 EDT Subject: usna-net: More Reading Material To: usna-net@navy-usna.org After reading dozens of posts regarding reading material, I wanted to add one more, particularly for parents of female mids. The name is First Class, Women Join the Ranks at the Naval Academy, written by Sharon Hanly Disher. I must confess, I have not yet read this, but my 17 year old aspiring candidate for the class of 04, Juliet, read it and felt it required reading for female Mids to be. She has devoured every single piece of material available and feels that Plebe was "awesome". Also, I remember reading, I believe in a newspaper article in the Capital, that Sense of Honor and the author Webb, were not thought well of by the administration at the academy. The article said Webb was an "unwelcome guest" at the signing he attended on the yard. Does this ring a bell with anyone? One more note, a friend gave my husband The Nightingale's Song, by Timberg, as a gift, at our son's graduation party. He never had the chance to open it until after we had dropped Rich off for Plebe Summer. Over the next few nights, I watched as the color drained from his face each time he began reading. He said he was terrified of the environment in which he had left his son, and finally put the book down, to be picked up again, only after Parent's Weekend confirmed our sons successful conclusion to Plebe summer. Of course, in reality, everything has changed at the academy, since the era of that book, and Mids are now challenged in different ways. Thank goodness, or how would we parents ever survive! Wishing you all great summer reading. Go Navy, Mary Cannici, NJ Rich, 02, 22nd *** USNA-NET post by: CANNICI Richard J. 02-22 CANNICI Richard and Mary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA11002 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:09:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1980 01:02:29 -0800 From: Stanford To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Re: YP Cruise....time of return? References: <37837FB1.4D7EDB60@neo.rr.com> achecca wrote: > > Hi Linda, > Our son is also flying back this Saturday for his YP cruise. Have you > made Tim's reservations for his flight home after his YP cruise? If so, > which day? Time? When will they be returning and when are they allowed > to leave the yard? We want to make the > reservations but need to be sure of the time they will be back so that > he will not miss his flight. Appreciate your help!! > Donna > Rocky 02/10Hi Donna and all Tim says that the YP cruise ends 3 weeks later, on the 26th. But I wouldn't trust that enough to make flight reservations. Does anyone know definately when they can leave the yard after the cruise? Tim will not be coming home afterwards. He has NTT. Yes I know that my computer date is off. It was only a few days off until my Mid and my computer engineering son worked on it. We plan to get a new computer the first of the year. Linda Stanford Tim 02/23 Indiana *** USNA-NET post by: STANFORD Timothy 02-23 STANFORD Linda ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA11138 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:14:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: RE: Question and Cell Phone Comment Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:22:35 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... This posting by Gerri was bounced. I am sending it along to you. You can reach Gerri at: ballpart@primary.net Sandi ==========================Original Message===================== Hi to everyone. I have been quietly reading all the postings and remembering all those emotions. Now with a 2nd Class Mid in the 28th company, it does get better but there are still those moments. Hang in there Plebe mom, you are in a class of MOM and DADs that is so awesome and elite, it makes your head spin to think of all the things are Mids are and will become. Always remember to ask about any Military reduce rates, etc. You would be surprised. Some are individual exceptions, like the time I got a refund on an airline ticket that was suppose to be non refundable, because I mentioned orders were changed and he could not come home. Just because the supervisor on duty had a brother at the Academy in years past and remembered those days. Sprint gave me a better rate on an international calling card when I mentioned that my son was on a training mission in Bahrain with the Naval Academy. He very quickly informed me that all military personal are entitled to a reduced rate and waived the credit card rule. It still amazes me the awe in peoples voices when they respond about the Naval Academy. Keep your chins up , mail going to your Plebes and mids and the rode will get easier. When you down, give someone in the USNA family a call or send a "sobbing" email to someone and we will be there to pull you up or just listen. There is nothing that would be new to any of us. We have heard it all or been thru. Now for my question. I know the Brigade reforms on the 20th of August. But when do the mids have to be back. Is it still the standard 1800 (6pm) report time or do they have to be back the day before . My Mid doesn't have a clue (and he is 2nd class) some things never change. Any HELP. I need to make airline reservations. Cell Phone comment. My son has a Sprint phone also and loves the service. He can get out on his cell phone from within his room in Bancroft. However, Sprint has a plan they don't advertise you have to ask for it and it is called the Student Plan or the All Nighter plan, It is 70 peak and 500 off Peak. for $24.95. It does cost 10cent a minute for long distance, But the only long distance is home to us and we have a 1800 and so it is long distance just airtime. Even so my home long distance on the weekends when he usually calls is only 5cents a minute. The only disadvantage I think is that Sprints off peak on this plan is 9pm on the week nights. But he very seldom makes calls that late on the weeknight. It works for us. He has a local 410 area code because that is how he keeps in touch with his friends up there and his sponsor. Thanks for the ear and as always for all the wonderful information. My mid is now on the first leg of PTROMID and will be back home in 3weeks if I get him a ticket home soon. Once again when do mids have to be back for the Brigade reform. You will soon learn that they do not want to go back a day before they have to. They treasure their time home . Gerri Ball (St.Louis, MO) Mid Arthur Ball 01 28th Company Boxing Team ==============End Original Message===================== *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA16942 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:10:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 21:21:59 -0400 From: Regina Marrero X-Sender: "Regina Marrero" (Unverified) To: "" Subject: usna-net: The Net Is anyone else getting messages from dates like 1969 and 1980. Marrero Family, 20th Company, 2002. *** USNA-NET post by: MARRERO Lucas 02 MARRERO Vito ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18158 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:26:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1980 02:16:34 -0800 From: Stanford To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: computer problems References: <4de01848.24b4ec5a@aol.com> CADeValder@aol.com wrote: > > Well, this will be a stupid question. My account on the computer lost all > addresses and favorite places so I'm in need of some clarification. If I > were to keep track on the Navy homepage(plebe summer) just what might that > be?!!! I know I had it at one time! I am an extreme novice and my son would > get a kick out of the massive listing on my favorite places - I put > EVERYTHING on there as to be able to find it again!!! Now it's all gone. > Thank you.. I actually had 2 people recognize me at the Yard by my > description of being the one pushing a double stroller!!! That was pretty > amazing!!! We had a great time. What a beautiful area! And a real treat > since I haven't left the county line in many years!! My little ones keep > asking where Andy is - they were very close. Love reading all the mail I > get now from this list. Take care! > > Chriss DeValder Byron, N.Y. > Andy Kindred (03) 01st (is that the right way to write it?) > > *** USNA-PLEBE post by: KINDRED Andrew Steven 03 DEVALDER Christine > > Spread the word about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > REMEMBER TO SEND YOUR MESSAGES IN PLAIN TEXT (ASCII) ! > If you don't see this message at the bottom of > your postings, you're not sending in Plain Text. > > Our website is www.navy-usna.orgDear Chris and all My son David is a senior at Valpo U with a double major in mechanicl/electrical engineering and possibly a minor in computers. He tried to fix the date on our computer, which was only off by a couple of days at the time. Then my Mid Tim tried to fix it. Tim deleted all our bookmarks and all my e-mail files. They laughed at me for printing and saving all thier e-mail to me. Ha! Computers never mess up! Ha. I know just how you feel. Good luck! Linda Stanford Tim 02/23 Ind. *** USNA-NET post by: STANFORD Timothy 02-23 STANFORD Linda ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA19356 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:39:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 20:52:12 -0500 From: Lyvia Monti X-Accept-Language: en To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Greetings from St. Louis Just want to say thanks for this wonderful services. Our son, Nick, '03 --Co A 2 PLT has begun his plebe year. Hopefully he'll get to use his talent with a trumpet in the D&B Corp. Any hints on the siblings that have been ignored for so long? I really appreciate being able to find out what books to check, where to look for pix from I-Day and knowing the validation tests took place for the plebes, delaying the REAL Plebe Summer until July 5. I've sent my first care package vis USPS. Do mids receive mail on Saturdays? Thanks for all support --present and future! Bob & Lili Monti St. Louis, MO *** USNA-NET post by: MONTI F Nicholas 03-2 MONTI Robert and Lili ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA20395 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:51:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Dates... Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 21:58:57 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 <<>> Vito, I have a copy of every message that has been sent to USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe since 1/23/99 stored on my computer locally plus we have copies of everything in the archives. No Dates are out of whack by more than a few minutes. Certainly not years. Sounds like you have a problem in your system or with your Internet Service Provider (ISP). Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA26302 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 21:22:32 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:28:58 EDT Subject: usna-net: care packages... To: usna-net@navy-usna.org During Plebe Summer I would say that it is a good idea to send them Priority.. after that it's up to you.....We live in Phila. and I know that when I send Peter stuff I always send it UPS.....I have taken it to the UPS place at 4PM and he will email me the next day that he got it.....I send it reg. UPS...although there is a UPS rule that says no p.o. boxes...I have never had it questioned...maybe just another one of those circumstances where it's special because it the USNA...I have also explained to people that the 21412 zip code is just for the NA and nothing else in Annapolis so it's not a problem.....it is interesting though that several times my husband decided to send something via Priority and it took 3 days to get there!!! I know they say 3 days....well....it was....whereas UPS was less than a day if you count 24 hrs.... It's up to you ..... I would try it a couple of different ways (after Plebe summer) and see which works best.... Dindy Liebert Peter 00/25 *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA28724 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 21:51:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 20:03:37 -0700 From: Susan Lemerande To: Mike Zets CC: "" Subject: Re: usna-net: Dates... References: <02f701bec8e5$7307a760$a101d4cd@sandi> I got one yesterday dated January 1980. I figured it was a problem with the sender's computer's clock, like the battery was dead and the computer always went back to Jan 1 when shut off. Or something. :-) Susan Mike Zets wrote: > <<>> > > Vito, > > I have a copy of every message that has been sent to USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe > since 1/23/99 stored on my computer locally plus we have copies of > everything in the archives. > > No Dates are out of whack by more than a few minutes. Certainly not years. > Sounds like you have a problem in your system or with your Internet Service > Provider (ISP). > > Best regards, > > Mike Zets > Westlake, OH > mzets@mail.com > Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers > Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org > > *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike > > Spread the word about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > REMEMBER TO SEND YOUR MESSAGES IN PLAIN TEXT (ASCII) ! > If you don't see this message at the bottom of > your postings, you're not sending in Plain Text. > > Our website is www.navy-usna.org -- A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that is in your heart, chaff and grain together, knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, keep only what is worth keeping, and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. ----- Susan Lemerande lemonade@ivic.net *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA00257 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:58:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [216.152.6.189] From: Kelly Fryar To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Just wanted to say thanks Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 21:06:55 PDT Thanks to everyone for all of the wonderful help in answering my question. This is a great service!! I love it!! Thanks a million Kelly Fryar _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: AMERINE Lee M 03-16 FRYAR Kelly ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA08800 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 02:41:00 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [209.156.112.211] From: Kay McGee To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Mid Mail Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 00:49:41 PDT To Lyvia and All: Mids can receive mail on Saturdays. However, I found out after spending mucho bucks sending a package Express Mail (to arrive Saturday) that my son couldn't get it until Monday because the Post Office isn't open on Saturday. Don't know if it's because it was Express, or because the package was too big. Maybe both. Mike Z. - I also received a message dated Jan. 1, 1980. No big deal, in fact it set me to thinking about what was happening then. Michael was a year old! Now 2nd Class at USNA - who would have thunk it? Kay McGee Bellevue, WA _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: MCGEE Michael 01-13 MCGEE Kay ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA25717 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:51:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pam Mann" To: Subject: Fw: usna-net: Academy Parents Prayer Net Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:52:21 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 4:59 PM Subject: usna-net: Academy Parents Prayer Net > The Academy Parents Prayer Net was formed as a spiritual support > for cadets at West Point as well as midshipmen at Annapolis. > > Subscribers are mostly West Point parents with a few Annapolis parents. > They have tried to make it general to 'academies' and would welcome other > > academy parents who wish to participate but I'm not sure how they would > connect. > > Those of you who wish to join over 200 other academy families in prayer > for our cadets/midshipmen and families are welcome to subscribe to the > prayer net > listserve. We have witnessed miracles in many lives and shared spiritual > support in times of great need. > > The prayer-net was established as a listserver of the WPP-net on > September 16, 1997. The impetus for a prayer-net came as a result of a > request from a cadet for prayer for a seriously injured plebe. A > message was posted with information that the Air Force Academy had a > parent prayer-net. It has taken off from there. Dolf Beil was > instrumental in setting up the listserver and in mentoring its > management. We are indebted to his service and support. Thank you Dolf! > > MISSION STATEMENT: > Prayer-net is a listserver devoted to providing a communication link > between WP-org members (parents, grads, and staff) who desire to use > the power of prayer to rally spiritual support on group issues as well > as specific concerns e.g. illness or injury,in supporting members of > the West Point and Annapolis communities. > > You may subscribe by sending your request to Ruth at < > MnRMcDhu@ix.netcom.com> > All prayer requests are posted through the moderator so as to > protect privacy of parties involved. > > If you have questions or need further information, please feel free to > contact Ruth at the above address. > > You will receive a monthly update of prayer concerns as well as reports > of > answered prayers. > > Glyndell Houston > Joe '02/28 > > *** USNA-NET post by: HOUSTON John J. 02 HOUSTON John and Glyndell > > Spread the word about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > REMEMBER TO SEND YOUR MESSAGES IN PLAIN TEXT (ASCII) ! > If you don't see this message at the bottom of > your postings, you're not sending in Plain Text. > > Our website is www.navy-usna.org > > > *** USNA-NET post by: MANN Joelle Jenssine 03 Mann Pam ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA27486 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:52:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael" To: "USNA-NET" Subject: usna-net: Navy-Army Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:04:17 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I'm looking for 2 tickets to this years Navy-Army game. The ticket office is out. If anyone has tickets they'd like to sell, please let me know. Thanks. Michael Spinelli Joseph 01 Orlando *** USNA-NET post by: SPINELLI Joseph 01-9 SPINELLI Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA28009 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:13:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dan Crestetto" To: "NAVY" Subject: usna-net: Last Year ARMY-NAVY Game Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:20:46 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by westpoint.west-point.org id LAA28004 Speaking of Navy-Army Games, did anyone record or know someone who did, the Army/Navy game in Philly last academic year? I think it was played last December 6. Please contact me at e-mail if anyone has any info on that game. Thanks again, and of course BEAT ARMY this year!!! Dan Crestetto. Jeremy, '02-30 *** USNA-NET post by: CRESTETTO Jeremy D. 02-30 CRESTETTO Dan and Barbara ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA01516 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:35:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Muskovac@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:41:51 EDT Subject: usna-net: Reading Material/Football Games To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I have read a lot of recommendations for reading material for Parents/Mids. I would recommend adding the "Shipmate" magazine, published by the Naval Academy Alumni Assoc. In addition to news of each class graduated from the Academy, there is a wealth of information relative to current happenings at the Yard, news of Alumni Chapters throughout the U.S. and other countries, etc. You do not have to be a graduate of the Academy to subscribe to "Shipmate". Pick up a free copy of the magazine at Parents Weekend from a NAAA staff member for review. If you are within decent driving distance of Annapolis, attend the Home Football games. Obtain season tickets or individual games when possible. The Brigade March into the stadium in an exciting event. The Tailgate parties are a truly rewarding experience. Particularly after each game, the Mids are quite hungry, and we prepare plenty food and drink for our Mid and her friends, especially the football players. When the Mids win, the upperclassmen go easy on the Plebes, if they lose, activities are normal. Hope 03 is well represented at the games this Fall. John Muskovac - Highland, Md Stephanie, 02/30 *** USNA-NET post by: MUSKOVAC Stephanie E 02-30 MUSKOVAC John and Catherine ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA02442 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:16:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 01:34:19 -0500 Subject: usna-net: Second Class Assignments From: "Gary D. Finley" To: USNA Listservers Hello, Our son just returned from a submarine cruise that was his first-block assignment. We thought that we would pass on two suggestions, and hopefully they will be useful. First of all, they need extra money. The Midshipman aren't use to having to purchase their meals, plus they are away for a long time. They need someway to pay for their stay in the BEQ or BOQ. The Academy does reimburse them for the lodging, but they have to have some means of paying for it. Secondly, the submarines are cold, and Thomas said that he should have brough a pair of long underwear, a shirt especially . We hope that the Second Class find their assignments as good as our son did. He was really pleased, and he got great insight into life on a submarine. GO NAVY/BEAT ARMY! Gary and Maureen Finley Kittery, Maine *** USNA-NET post by: FINLEY Thomas P 03-29 FINLEY Gary and Maureen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA20013 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:34:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 05:50:44 -0500 Subject: usna-net: FW: usna-plebe: Re: first phone call From: "Gary D. Finley" To: USNA Listservers ---------- From: "Gary D. Finley" To: Sherrie Bayer , usna-plebe@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-plebe: Re: first phone call Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 01:33:54 -0500 Dear Sherrie, We don't have a Plebe in Company 29, but we have a Second Class, Thomas Finley. That is so hard for us to believe. After reading the e-mails from parents of Plebes, it seems like yesterday that we were having the same concerns and going through the same things. Time has gone by so fast. Thomas is home now after coming home from a submarine cruise to Puerto Rico! He had a wonderful time, and he is trying to get into shape for NAPS detail that he has beginning on the 17th. It's great having him home. Good luck to your son with his summer assignments. The 3/c come up to our part of the country for their YP and the CSTS cruises. We see Midshipmen walking around, and we have the pleasure of bringing them to our home for a barbecue or taking them out to dinner. It's been a lot of fun. They are great young people, and we enjoy hearing all about them. Take care. GO NAVY/BEAT ARMY! Gary and Maureen Finley Kittery, Maine ---------- > From: Sherrie Bayer > To: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org > Subject: usna-plebe: Re: first phone call > Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 08:33:17 PDT > >Harriet and all plebe parents, > >It is very possible that the first phone call will not come until the >weekend of the 24th---after the plebes have been there a full three weeks. >It seems that's the way it was last year---someone out there correct me if >I'm wrong. Keep checking the usna homepage--plebe summer link for phone >times. If I recall correctly, phone times were usually on Saturday and they >were listed for Eastern time. So depending on where you live, you may need >to deduct hours from the posted time. If you will be away when the phone >call comes, shoot your plebe a letter giving the number where you can be >reached. Because time is of the essence and just for ease of calling we got >an 800 number for calling home. Because it is so easy to use, our son has >been very good about calling whenever he wanted to or needed to---but that >was during the Ac year. These 5 minute calls are only for plebe summer. >After the Ac year begins, your plebe can call whenever he/she has free time >and the only restraint is your pocketbook! We gladly pay the bill and call >it college expense! >Best wishes to all you plebe parents out there. Try to stay busy; it helps >the time go by more quickly. > >God bless you, >Sherrie Bayer >Brett '02/29-----by the way, anyone have a plebe in 29? > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > >*** USNA-PLEBE post by: BAYER Brett 02-29 BAYER Bing & Sherrie > >Spread the word about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > >REMEMBER TO SEND YOUR MESSAGES IN PLAIN TEXT (ASCII) ! >If you don't see this message at the bottom of >your postings, you're not sending in Plain Text. > >Our website is www.navy-usna.org > > *** USNA-PLEBE post by: FINLEY Thomas P 03-29 FINLEY Gary and Maureen *** USNA-NET post by: FINLEY Thomas P 03-29 FINLEY Gary and Maureen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA20974 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:09:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "Chris Hobert" To: Subject: usna-net: A Postcard!! Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:17:29 -0400 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BF_01BEC96E.23BE1D40" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BF_01BEC96E.23BE1D40 charset="iso-8859-1" I didn't get a whole letter from my plebe but a postcard (postmarked on = 7-06) let me know he is ok! He isn't big on writing, so I was surprised = to get that much. He varified the validation exams. He had already = completed those for calculus and English. I was happy to see the = tenative phone schedule posted. Thanks to everyone who is sharing both = general info and personal experinces. Sincerely,=20 Linda Hobert Browns Mills, NJ Christopher '03 ------=_NextPart_000_00BF_01BEC96E.23BE1D40 charset="iso-8859-1"
I didn't get a whole letter from my = plebe but a=20 postcard (postmarked on 7-06) let me know he is ok! He isn't big on = writing, so=20 I was surprised to get that much. He varified the validation exams. He = had=20 already completed those for calculus and English. I was happy to see the = tenative phone schedule posted. Thanks to everyone who is sharing both = general=20 info and personal experinces.
 
Sincerely,
Linda Hobert
Browns Mills,=20 NJ
Christopher '03
 
------=_NextPart_000_00BF_01BEC96E.23BE1D40-- *** USNA-NET post by: HOBERT Christopher G. 03 HOBERT Harry and Linda ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA22878 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:33:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 18:42:49 -0400 Subject: usna-net: interviews From: "Paul Neely" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Allow me to respond to the posting of July 3 suggesting that: a) journalists writing about the Academy often have hidden agendas, and b) all interviews with mids and parents should be cleared through Public Affairs. First, everyone has hidden agendas, although they may not be conscious of them. Public Affairs has a hidden agenda too -- to put the best possible light on the Academy, regardless of how well that conforms to any independent, objective truth. Journalists (and that has been my profession, until recently) often make mistakes, come in with wrong assumptions, play out bad preconceptions, and in the end do stupid things. All of which makes them just like other people. In general, however, they give an enormous amount of credit to the USNA. The vast majority of them do what amounts to nothing but puff pieces about the Academy and its midshipmen. Others do serious work showing the full range of the Academy experience, which may include some negative points, unless one is prepared to contend that the Academy is perfect. (For two examples of rather interesting journalism about the Academy, see: (1) a series about plebe year in the archives of the Baltimore Sun's website, with good articles and great pictures, and (2) a serious examination of the Academy, including some faults in its selection process, in the latest issue of Proceedings, the magazine of The Naval Institute. (Presumably, the poster of the original advice does not contend that The Naval Institute has a hidden agenda.) ) But it is especially bad advice to be so worried about the press that one avoids them. If your local newspaper calls because it wants to do a little story about its local boy or girl off at the Academy, for heaven's sake, don't freak out and call Public Affairs asking permission. The Podunk Gazette is not out to get the USNA. Work with them. Tell them as much as possible. Do a good job of telling *your* story, and more often than not it will become "their* story. One of the great faults of the press in general is that it's pliable for those who know how to bend it. Use the great story you have, and things will usually turn out just fine. Paul Neely parent of David '03/16 PS Contrary to some postings, it's also incorrect to refer to AUGHT '03. Aught means "0". AUGHT '03 would be "003". *** USNA-NET post by: NEELY David King 03 NEELY Paul and Linda ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA29695 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:39:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy765@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:46:52 EDT Subject: usna-net: YP Cruise To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Does anyone know how to find out when a YP reaches the Yard? My son, Steve is on YP684 and is supposed to be docking tonight or tomorrow. Any way to find out? I have been unable to "read" the summer cruise plot on the midshipper page. Thanks Nancy Rogers Steve, '02/26 *** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS Stephen J. 02-26 ROGERS Randy and Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA01738 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:58:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy765@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:07:00 EDT Subject: usna-net: YP Cruise To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Deb, Thank you for the YP Cruise information. It would be great if they get in at 10 am as you stated. I'm sure there is a lot of cleaning of the YP before they can leave. Steve has a flight out of BWI at 8:30 pm, but he's hoping to be able to get something sooner, unless he is charged the usual $75 for a flight change, then he may have second thoughts. That is great that a crowd is there to welcome the mids - it must make them feel terrific. Nancy Rogers Steve, '02/26 *** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS Stephen J. 02-26 ROGERS Randy and Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA03797 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:13:18 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Updated Weather Links Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:21:50 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... For those of you that can't get enough information about the yard, I have updated the website's main page to include the DETAILED Weather Conditions with Long Range Forecast PLUS I moved the Baycam Weather to another Icon (Camera) next to it so that you have twice as much information as before. Just go to www.navy-usna.org and click on the Time/Temp for the Detailed Stuff or the Camera for the Baycam. Hope this helps. Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org PS. I had to design the Camera from scratch since I couldn't find an image that was suitable. *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA03381 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:30:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 00:32:04 -0700 From: Jill Leverentz To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Hello I guess my very first statement is one of thanks. What a great service this list server is!!! Since joining I've been pouring over all the email we've received and learned a whole lot. As the old saying goes let me introduce myself or should I say ourselves. I/we are Jill and Jim Leverentz. We're members of the Annapolis Parent's Club of Southern California (new members). Our Plebe is Jamie C. Leverentz now of D-07, Class of 03. She is the youngest of our three children. Our oldest son, Mike is married and lives in Leamington Spa, England with his wife, Rebecca and two children, Eric & Rowen. He's working on his PhD in Bio Chemestry. Our middle son, Matt, is still keeping us company at home and works in a local computer factory trouble shooting and putting together computer systems for customers. Jamie, our daughter, spent the past ten months at NAPS in Newport, Rhode Island. So we're kinda used to (but not really) her being on the other side of the country from us. She is a left handed Volleyball Defensive Specialist. She should be kept busy on the volleyball court in Macdonough Hall this fall. Jim is a contracts specialist for a company here in California and I work parttime as an administrative assistant. Needless to say we're looking forward to that first phone call and Plebe Parents Weekend. Keep all those emails coming in. A quick question---when do plebes start varsity practice? jill *** USNA-NET post by: LEVERENTZ Jamie C 03-7 LEVERENTZ Jim and Jill ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA20893 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:07:09 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: thedwall#pop.iquest.net@192.168.16.128 Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 09:16:17 -0500 To: "Paul Neely" , usna-net@navy-usna.org From: Rick Thedwall Subject: Re: usna-net: interviews In-Reply-To: <199907082229.SAA17681@caladan.highertech.net> Paul Neely's insights into journalism are right on target! This is good advice that applies not only to Academy interviews, but any interaction with journalists (newspaper, radio, or television). Generally speaking, "the media" serves a very important purpose in our free democracy. There is no need to fear talking with reporters. Rick Thedwall parent of Craig '03 /23 Rick Thedwall WISH-TV Program Manager *** USNA-NET post by: THEDWALL Craig Steven 03 THEDWALL Rick ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA21573 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:40:11 -0500 (CDT) From: JMarti2902@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:48:46 EDT Subject: usna-net: Minnesota plebe parents To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I was just wondering, if any Minnesota Plebe parents had discovered this great service? If not I'll try to e-mail as many of you that I can. M.O.M. Elizabeth Martin *** USNA-NET post by: MARTIN Elizabeth 03-D MARTIN Mary and John ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA19745 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 18:04:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 18:09:32 -0500 From: susy tuthill Organization: MediaOne To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: hello message Hi! I am Susy Tuthill of Hinsdale, Il., a suburb of Chicago. It's been a week since I got back from I Day, where I left my son, James.(03-08 D). I never would have made it through the day, or the experience, without the help supplied by the Parents' Handbook provided by the Parents' Club of Northern Illinois. Thanks to all of those wonderful people! The president gave me this address, and I signed up this afternoon. I have happily spent almost 3 hours reading through your letters, information, and photos. WOW! I am the single Mom of three sons. James(19 years) is my oldest, and has wanted to go to the Naval Academy since third grade. It was his dream and his goal to be a career officer. So when on Febr 14, 1998, he received a letter from the Navy Foundation, he fell apart. I didn't know what the Foundation was then, but James did. It meant he would not be getting an appointment from the Academy. He told me his life was over, and had no purpose. He went down to the basement and played with his legos for the entire weekend. The same legos he had played with as a boy, making sailing ships, carriers, frigates, etc. He wouldn't eat or talk to me. I remember going into his room one night, just to be sure he was still breathing. At the end of the weekend, Sunday night, he came up to the kitchen and announnced he would accept the Foundation's offer. (For those of you unaware of the Navy Foundation, it offers young men and women the opportunity to spend a fifth year in high school, in exchange for an appointment the following year, provided certain criterion are met.) When reminded that he would be giving up a year of his life, to repeat classes in which he had already excelled, he answered, "what's a year compared to the rest of my life?" I knew then that James would do whatever it cost to get to Annapolis. He spent a post-graduate year at The Hill school in Pa. There were 4 other Navy Foundation students there. They formed a tight group, and endured a very structured, academicly tough, restricted year in boarding school. Looking back at it now, it really prepared him for plebe summer. I am so grateful to the Navy Foundation. Are there any other Foundation parents or graduates out there? I would love to hear from you. I also have 2 other sons, Andy (18 and entering Vanderbilt in the fall) and Matt (14 and going to be a high school freshman). My address is snoozet@mediaone.net. Mother of James Tuthill 03-08 D *** USNA-NET post by: TUTHILL James G 03 TUTHILL Susy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA09655 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:03:02 -0500 (CDT) From: JMarti2902@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 01:09:53 EDT Subject: usna-net: usna-net parent & plebe To: dafellman@prodigy.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org Dear Dave, I've been combing the net waves for info on the plebe's and discoverd a website that has parents and families of plebe's sending in helpful notes . I thought maybe you could forward this address to the 03 parents i if you wouldn't mind? usna-net@navy.usna.org Thanks Mary MOM Betsy *** USNA-NET post by: MARTIN Elizabeth 03-D MARTIN Mary and John ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA25109 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 06:58:47 -0500 (CDT) From: RobHEast1@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 08:07:09 EDT Subject: usna-net: 26th Platoon To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi everyone! I have read many, many wonderful and enlightening messages. Only 1 so far has had someone in the 26th platoon. Are there others out there? I'd love to hear from upperclass parents of the 26th company, too. Thanks, Robin Paul '03/26 N *** USNA-NET post by: HENDERSON Paul 03-26 HENDERSON Brad and Robin ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA25243 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:01:57 -0500 (CDT) From: RobHEast1@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 08:09:51 EDT Subject: usna-net: homepage To: usna-net@navy-usna.org It looks like I am unable to see the last link on the menu on the left. My last one listed is USNA-Plebe. Are there more? I can't seem to scroll further but can see the top of another blue dot. Thanks. Robin Paul 03/26 *** USNA-NET post by: HENDERSON Paul 03-26 HENDERSON Brad and Robin ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA28897 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:33:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Home page Visibility Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 08:42:36 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 QUESTION: It looks like I am unable to see the last link on the menu on the left. My last one listed is USNA-Plebe. Are there more? I can't seem to scroll further but can see the top of another blue dot. Thanks ANSWER: For aesthetic reasons I have not enabled scrolling in the Menu Area of the Main Page. To view the entire area in your browser one or both of the following will cure the problem on your end... Set your View | Text Size to "Smaller" or "Smallest" and/or In My Computer | Control Panel | Display | Settings in Windows 95/98, set your display resolution to 800 x 600 pixels. Hope this helps, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA11411 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:55:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:53:43 -0400 From: Dan Keefe Organization: Family To: USNA Navy Network Subject: usna-net: Army-Navy Tickets We are looking to purchase 2 tickets for the Army-Navy game. Navy has already sold out and we are on a waiting list for tickets from Army. If you have any suggestions for locating tickets we would appreciate the information. Thanks. Go Navy Sally and Dan Keefe *** USNA-NET post by: KEEFE Michael R 02 KEEFE Sally and Dan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA13160 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:58:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "A & A Mc" To: Subject: usna-net: Hi from Faribault, MN Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:05:49 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Hi to all other USNA parents. Our son, Ian McColley, belongs to the Class of 2003. We are from Faribault, MN, where it was hot, but not quite as hot as Annapolis over the 4th of July. We're hoping that experience with Minnesota humidity got Ian through the Annapolis humidity. But does Annapolis have mosquitos the size of dragonflies? Ian also has a brother, Pat who is a junior in high school. We received our first letter from Ian Friday the 9th. It was a long wait, but now our minds are at ease. The letter sounded quite optimistic considering, so we take that as an excellent sign that Plebe summer is survivable. We're happy to be on the net with you all. Have a nice summer. Maybe we'll see some of you at Parents' Weekend. Allyn and Allen McColley *** USNA-NET post by: MCCOLLEY Ian Benjamin 03 MCCOLLEY Allen and Alllyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA08496 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:29:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Rhonda Densmore" To: "USNA-NET" Subject: usna-net: Looking for you! Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:41:14 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01BECB57.9B53B460" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BECB57.9B53B460 charset="iso-8859-1" Good morning all! I would like to hear from other folks who have a Mid in 22nd Co. = Upperclass and Plebes. To the upperclass parents...did you know that = our company got "company of the semester" at the end of ac year this = past May. I had the privilege of having lunch in King Hall with my Mid = prior to the Herndon climb. Several Mids were recognized for one thing = or another. The company of the semester was a new thing and our Mids = are the first to be recognized as such. Congrats to them!!! Rhonda Densmore Central Alabama Area Coordinator=20 USNA Parents Club of Alabama Proud mom of Dave Tickle '02, 22nd Trussville, Alabama (near Birmingham) ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BECB57.9B53B460 charset="iso-8859-1"
Good morning all!
 
I would like to hear from other folks who have a Mid in 22nd = Co. =20 Upperclass and Plebes.  To the upperclass parents...did you know = that our=20 company got "company of the semester" at the end of ac year this past = May. I=20 had the privilege of having lunch in King Hall with my Mid prior to the = Herndon=20 climb.  Several Mids were recognized for one thing or = another.  The=20 company of the semester was a new thing and our Mids are the first to be = recognized as such.  Congrats to them!!!
 
Rhonda Densmore
Central Alabama Area Coordinator
USNA Parents Club of Alabama
Proud mom of Dave Tickle '02, 22nd
Trussville, Alabama (near Birmingham)
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BECB57.9B53B460-- *** USNA-NET post by: TICKLE David Allen 02-22 DENSMORE Rhonda ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA02400 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:53:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Jhb317@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:01:38 EDT Subject: usna-net: USAA To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello, Could someone send me the 800 number for USAA? I need to look into getting room insurance for my Youngster who just left today after being home for six weeks. TEARS TEARS He is sailing first and then has YP. He is ready to get back and is looking forward to the next six weeks. Carol Bringhurst Josh 02/19 Lightweight Crew *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA04465 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:22:05 -0500 (CDT) From: rdropek@uswest.net Delivered-To: fixup-usna-net@navy-usna.org@fixme Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:33:56 -0600 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Rates Someone asked about "rate evaluation" which was part of the Saturday morning list of activities for Plebes. Rates are the military of "professional" information a Plebe is required to know. It is information they are memorizing from "Reef Points" as well as other "pro knowledge" topics they will be tested on by detailers and upperclass throughout Plebe Summer and on into Plebe year. Here's a hint. Tell your Mid to make sure they know the general orders of a sentry. For Rhonda Densmore of Al, my son is a 2nd class in 22nd Company. He didn't mention they received "company of the semester" honors. That's great for a company with the knickname of "loose-loose double duce!" Feel free to contact me at my home email address if you want to correspond. Pam Dropek Sandy, UT Ryan, '01, 22nd Co. current doing weapons detail *** USNA-NET post by: DROPEK Ryan Bradley 01-22 DROPEK Rich and Pam ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA11884 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:59:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 06:48:19 -0500 From: woodmont@edge.net (Phillip L. Patterson) To: USNA-Net Subject: usna-net: Reef Points For those of us who might be interested in the defintion of the term "reef points", I have paraphrased it as described in the book "Sailing as a Second Language" by Fred Edwards, USMC, a Coast Guard licensed captain, instructor, and contributor to several major sailing and boating publications. Additionally, I added some personal comments. Reefing is the act of "shortening" or reducing the functional area of a sail. This is done in order to maintain a balance of sail aloft with the wind velocity and sea conditions. In dockside bull sessions, one might often hear, "it was blowin' so hard, that we were carrying only a storm jib (a small, very heavy canvas sail on the forestay) and had gone to the third reef in the main" (the sail which is attached to the aft edge of the mast and can be raised up and down thereby increasing or decreasing the exposed area). When a mainsail is "jiffy" reefed, often called "slab" reefed, the sail is partially lowered using "luff" (forward edge of sail) and "leech" (aft edge of sail) "earings" (lines attached or passed through grommets in two or three places up and down the fore and aft edge of sail) to secure or tie off the new "foot" (bottom) of the now reduced-area sail to the "boom" (the horizontal pole which connects to the vertical mast and forms the lower support for the mainsail. The boom, during gusting winds, is also quite able to crack an unsuspecting plebe, mid, or other seagoing citizen in the back of the head causing unplanned man-overboard drills - a good reason for reefing before bad weather sets in). The excess loose material along the foot of the sail is called the "bunt". It is secured by furling lines - either a single line laced around the bunt or by several short pieces of line called "nettles". These lines can be sewn to the sail, parallel to the boom, where they and their points of attachment are called "REEF POINTS". The furling lines can also hang on each side of the sail from grommets set in a horizontal strip of reinforcing material, a "reef band" which has been sewn into the sail. On our boat, we shorten sail to 1st reef between 16 and 20 kts, depending on sea conditions. If weather is deteriorating and gusts are spiking above 28-30 kts, we are already pulling down to the second reef and have furled a good bit of the genoa (the large jibsail on the forestay). If conditions continue to worsen, we go to the third reef and replace the regular genoa/jib with a very small, very flat, heavy weight storm jib and wish we were at happy hour somewhere in Annapolis. For further information, the stiffening strips, made from various materials, which are found in most mainsails are called battens. They vary in length from several inches to several feet. They are inserted into "batten pockets" (sewn-in sleeves) from the leech edge of the sail and go forward toward the luff of the sail. Some sails even have full length battens which go completely from leech to luff (commonly seen on many catamarans). These help maintain sail shape / efficiency in light air and can also aid in extending the useful life of the sail. Although, I suppose the above does not directly relate to being a USNA parent, some of you might have the opportunity to sail with your mid on the "knockabouts" or perhaps at a later date, on the 44's. A little "sailing" lingo might prove fun and even useful. If there are any parents out there who hear unfamiliar nautical/sailing expressions and terminology, Teresa and I would gladly check our reference library as forty-five plus years of sailing have resulted in a hundred or so books and manuals on the subject. I will happily try and post on the list-server ASAP as long as it can relate to Navy sailing, mids, bay info needed by parents, etc. and our moderator approves. It will, of course, be commercial free. For ten years we have kept a boat near USNA just over the Spa Creek drawbridge and live aboard when in the Annapolis area. We do try and time our vacation days so they fit USNA activities and we use any remote excuse to leave Tennessee and head for the bay. We wish all plebes and their parents "fair winds and following seas", Phillip and Teresa Patterson Alan, '00/19th, Trap and Skeet, Alpine Skiing - Craig, '02/10th, Varsity Lacrosse *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Craig E. 02-10 - Alan A. 00-19 PATTERSON Phillip and Teresa ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA03870 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:45:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" , "" Subject: usna-net: VIRUS ALERT !!! Read at once... Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:54:57 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all members of USNA Parents Lists... Please be advised that we have a confirmed infection of a member's computer with the HAPPY99.EXE virus. DO NOT OPEN ATTACHMENTS TO EMAIL. The virus is an attachment to regular email that is named HAPPY99.EXE. If opened it will display a very pretty fireworks display and say Happy New Year 1999. Complete information on the virus, how to tell if you're infected and how to get rid of the virus may be found on our web site at www.navy-usna.org on the FAQs page under the heading "VIRUS Information" This virus ran through the computers at the Yard last spring and spread to members through email received from their Mids. The good news is that no really serious damage is done by the virus but it will play havoc with your email, sending itself to anyone you send email to, including our lists. Unless you are sure that you are virus free, DO NOT POST MESSAGES TO OUR LISTS. Read the Frequently Asked Questions Section on VIRUS Information and follow the instructions there to the letter. It would probably be a good idea to print out the page for reference during the disinfection process. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA21294 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 02:21:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Bille To: "'Mike Zets'" Cc: "'USNA, mail list server'" Subject: usna-net: RE: usna-clubnet: VIRUS ALERT !!! Read at once... Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:15:11 -0600 Organization: @Home Mike, Here's a link that will provide specific information regarding the Happy99 Virus: http://www.sni.net/~billepf/flexnet/happy99.html - Happy99 Virus Information Here's a brief summary: You may receive an e-mail message from a friend or asoociate with an attachment named happy99.exe. If you execute the attachment, you'll see a window with some cute fireworks. You'll also rename and hide your wsock32.dll file. You will receive a new wsock32.dll file that will begin e-mailing copies of happy99.exe to everyone you send e-mail to. You may then receive messages concerning the "cute fireworks" from the unintended recipients of your e-mail. This is the tip that you've contracted the e-mail virus. Fortunately, this is not a very harmful virus as viruses go. You can recover fairly easily if you know your way around the computer pretty well and follow the instructions provided at the site listed above precisely. Paul Bille http://www.csn.net/~billepf proud father of Daniel '01/13th 10349 W Burgundy Ave (303)979-0197 voice Littleton, CO 80127-5533 (303)973-4281 fax COPA http://www.csn.net/~billepf/annapolis FlexNET http://www.csn.net/~billepf/flexnet DenGEO http://www.csn.net/~billepf/dengeo -----Original Message----- From: Mike Zets [SMTP:mzets@mail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 9:55 PM To: ; Subject: usna-clubnet: VIRUS ALERT !!! Read at once... Please be advised that we have a confirmed infection of a member's computer with the HAPPY99.EXE virus. DO NOT OPEN ATTACHMENTS TO EMAIL. The virus is an attachment to regular email that is named HAPPY99.EXE. *** USNA-NET post by: BILLE Daniel P. 01 BILLE Paul and Mary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA11463 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:09:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:17:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: rdropek@uswest.net cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Rates In-Reply-To: <3788E394.EFD56226@pop.slkc.uswest.net> Please clarify. I was under the impression that the title of that book was BRIEF POINTS not reef points. It is quite possible that I have been incorrect for the past 7 years. Can an alumni help. Thank you. :-) peace and hugs......Jo Oliver John '97 Long Island NY *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA19219 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:08:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:11:52 -0500 From: susy tuthill Organization: MediaOne To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: 4th reg Could someone please give the web site again for the 4th Regiment? I must have copied it wrong, because it won't go through. I have written http://www.usna.edu/4threg/ I must have left something out. HELP! I mailed my first care package today. FYI...if you send priority mail, and it's over 2 lbs (I couldn't help myself) it's more like $5 than $3. It's well worth the expense however! Aren't you excited about Saturday's phone call? I am very grateful to you all for describing the plebes life to me, and your obsevations at the Yard. Special thanks to Dolly (you are you?) for all of your FANTASTIC information. It's like having our own mole undercover! SUSY T Hinsdale, IL James 03-08 D *** USNA-NET post by: TUTHILL James G 03 TUTHILL Susy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA25535 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:49:00 -0500 (CDT) From: KKStuart@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:56:37 EDT Subject: usna-net: Army/Navy tickets -help To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi to all! My name is Karen Stuart, and I am in a slight predicament. I listened to my HUSBAND ! First, let me explain.... Although my husband is soon to be the XO of the IKE, he doesn't seem to know much about the Navy when it comes to the Naval Academy because he didn't go there - which leads me to my dilema. Our son is a plebe this year, and we wanted to get tickets for the games. My HUSBAND assured me that there would be plenty of time to buy tickets. Since he spends so little time with us, I usually never listen to him and just do what I want. This time, however, I thought I'd be a good wife and let him be in charge. OK. BIG MISTAKE. As most of you know, the tickets were sold out July 1st. Of course, if he had been at sea, I'd have bought the tickets while we were there for I-Day. OOOPS. Now, to save our marriage, he has to find at least 2 (two), preferably 4(four) tickets for the Army/Navy game. Would anyone out there care to help keep a Navy marriage together a little while longer???? If you know of anyone who has tickets to spare... please put me in touch with them. Thanks a million. *** USNA-NET post by: STUART Christopher 03-14 STUART Karen K. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA01885 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:38:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dan Crestetto" To: "NAVY" Subject: usna-net: Info Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:44:40 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by westpoint.west-point.org id MAA01844 All you want to know and desire to know about the Naval Academy is at www.nadn.navy.mil (The NADN stands for Naval Academy Data Network, not NADA) Dan Crestetto, Jeremy, '02-30 *** USNA-NET post by: CRESTETTO Jeremy D. 02-30 CRESTETTO Dan and Barbara ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA15018 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:37:53 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:44:55 EDT Subject: usna-net: Check out Chick & Ruth's to serve patriotic dish to nation (From the Annapoli To: usna-net@navy-usna.org, usna-plebe@navy-usna.org For those of you who are not familiar with Chick and Ruth's it is THE deli in Annapolis, has been run by the same family for years....is very mid fiendly (real old fashioned milk shakes are a draw from my son) and is very patriotic...as stated in the newspaper article, they say the Pledge of Alligence every morning...it is quite a place, the walls are hung with pics of famous politicians, stars, and mids....They also have gift certificates of sorts, I have gotten them for my mid so that he could venture in for a sandwich etc...He loved it....Anyway, although, there is nothing about USNA in this article, I can not imagine that it will not be mentioned on the show... and besides, like the Bay Cam, it will be nice to see a place that your mid sees all the time....(at least when on town liberty - for plebe parents ) I definately plan on watching!!!! Dindy Liebert Peter 00/25 Click here: Chick & Ruth's to serve patriotic dish to nation (From the Annapolis Capital July 10, 1999) *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA22098 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:33:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Jhb317@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:41:11 EDT Subject: usna-net: Virus To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I update my virus protection program once a week and I ran a scan of my C drive. All is clear. I assume I did not get infected. Right? Carol Bringhurst 02/19 Josh Lightweight Crew *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA23000 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:08:42 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [198.211.16.216] From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Hello Message Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:17:35 EDT To the USNA Family, Almost forgot our manners by not introducing ourselves. We are Anne & Dennis Kolb parents of Matthew (Matt) Class of 2003. We live in Port Jefferson Station, Long Island, New York. We like many of you are experiencing Plebe Summer and all it's excitement or should I say anxiety. We received one letter from our son and things appear to be going well. Through the grapevine we even heard he made church 2 Sunday's ago. We are anxiously awaiting his phone call this weekend and we appreciate the advise some of you have given for that occasion. Have a Great Navy Day, Anne & Dennis Matthew '03 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: KOLB Matthew V 03-D KOLB Anne and Dennis ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA23625 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:32:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:49:28 -0600 From: Larsen To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Helpful texts to have during academic yr Hi Navy Family, My son had thought about having us bring some useful texts to have as resources during the academic year when we see him on Parents' Weekend. Titles include Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, a college level grammar resource book, a dictionary, and a thesaurus. Yes, he knows the computer will have dictionary and thesaurus references, but he does prefer opportunity to access of hardcover material as well. Any suggestions on bringing resource texts? Cindi Larsen Eric '03/22 Racine, WI *** USNA-NET post by: LARSON Eric H 03-22 LARSON Loren and Cindi ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA00326 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:57:35 -0500 (CDT) From: rdropek@uswest.net Delivered-To: fixup-usna-net@navy-usna.org@fixme Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:08:36 -0600 To: USNA Net Subject: usna-net: Helpful texts Hi, Our son took calculus, chemistry, and physics books with him to the Academy and used them all during the last two years. Mids always have access to EI (extra instruction) from the Profs, peer tutors, and others, but our son found it helpful to have more than one explanation of a concept to which he could refer. If he was struggling with something as described in the text which was issued for his course, he'd look the concept up in the second book for a different perspective. However, now that he's finished engine math, we need the calc book back at home so his sister can use it for highschool! Pam Dropek Sandy, UT Ryan '01 22nd Co. *** USNA-NET post by: DROPEK Ryan Bradley 01-22 DROPEK Rich and Pam ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA03875 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:13:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Esher Family" To: Subject: usna-net: Greetings from the Eshers' Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:20:01 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01BECCAC.4E4C0A40" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BECCAC.4E4C0A40 charset="iso-8859-1" Hi and greetings from the Deep South, Mississippi. This is Bob and = Kathie Esher from Waveland, MS 39576, on the MS Gulf Coast. We are = located 3 houses from the Gulf, sometimes good-sometimes not so good! = Our daughter, Leslie Ann, is a member of the plebe Class of 2003. Leslie = loves soccer and is hoping to nail down or is it cleat down, a position = on the Navy Women's Soccer Team. We also have a son, Scott, who is a = Midshipman 1/c at Tulane University in New Orleans and is in the NROTC = program. Bob is an environmentalist and I am a Medical Technologist in = the Biloxi VA Medical Center. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BECCAC.4E4C0A40 charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi and greetings from the Deep South, = Mississippi.=20 This is Bob and Kathie Esher from Waveland, MS 39576, on the MS Gulf = Coast. We=20 are located 3 houses from the Gulf, sometimes good-sometimes not so = good! Our=20 daughter, Leslie Ann, is a member of the plebe Class of 2003. Leslie = loves=20 soccer and is hoping to nail down or is it cleat down, a position = on the=20 Navy Women's Soccer Team. We also have a son, Scott, who is a = Midshipman=20 1/c at Tulane University in New Orleans and is in the NROTC program. Bob = is an=20 environmentalist and I am a Medical Technologist in the Biloxi VA = Medical=20 Center.
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BECCAC.4E4C0A40-- *** USNA-NET post by: ESHER Leslie Ann 03-10 ESHER Robert and Kathie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA00814 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:21:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:44:18 -0500 From: woodmont@edge.net (Phillip L. Patterson) To: USNA-Net Subject: usna-net: King Hall/PPW Here is another thought on eating at King Hall during Plebe Parent's Weekend. If you plan to attend a few home football games during the coming years, try to eat a noon meal at King Hall (the day before the game) AFTER your child's plebe year. We have done so twice, 3c and 2c years, and had loads of fun. The antics and wild concoctions of food/drink created by upperclassmen, consumed by plebes, combined with an incredible noise level almost gave us a feeling of being back in the "Roaring 20s" college era. We were there on the Fridays before Navy/Air Force and Navy/Notre Dame. These two meals will go on our family record as "Noteable Events". I agree that some plebes will want to get clear of the yard ASAP, both of our sons did, reminding us that they could invite us to lunch at other times. However, if you will only have rare occasion to visit USNA due to time/distance constraints, and your mid wants to do the King Hall meal, by all means do it! Your mid will be very proud to have you as his/her guests and this pride is well deserved. After all, you are the proud parents/family of a young USNA Midshipman who has just successfully completed an incredibly difficult set of challenges, tasks, and physical training. Revel in it; after all, in forty-four months or so, you will find that there are no more Plebe Parents Weekends, Herndon Monument Climbs, YP cruise returns, Firstie Parents Weekends and Commissioning Weeks. Your mid will be in the fleet as an officer in the world's greatest navy or in the field with the world's incomparible marines. Your pride will remain, but the yard will somehow be a different place following graduation. As we approach Alan's "Firstie" year, we are drawing on the experiences of parents from '99, '98 '97, etc., and they all seem to say, "one wishes there were the same reasons and driving force to travel to The Yard as there were prior to graduation. SO GO! and GO OFTEN! You will not regret it! Have a great Navy week and don't worry, the mids will survive plebe summer and so will you! Phillip and Teresa Patterson, Tullahoma, TN Alan, '00/19th, Trap and Skeet - Alpine Skiing Craig, '02/10th Varsity Lacrosse *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Craig E. 02-10 - Alan A. 00-19 PATTERSON Phillip and Teresa ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA22767 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:24:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dan Crestetto" To: "NAVY" Subject: usna-net: King Hall Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:31:19 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by westpoint.west-point.org id JAA22762 Regarding the opinions on dining with your mid at King Hall: It is interesting to see some of the deep feelings of patriotism, pride, and professionalism come out when mids are able to show off their Navy, their Academy, their uniforms, and their shipmates at particular occasions such as dining in at King Hall, ship tours, and Yard tours. Take a moment to reflect on what it REALLY means to be able to attend the Naval Academy and be a part of the best Navy anywhere. These things may not show from your mid on the surface, but believe me, they ARE there. ENJOY, share, and respect the time that they are part of this. It is priceless and timeless. Dan Crestetto, Jeremy, '02-30. *** USNA-NET post by: CRESTETTO Jeremy D. 02-30 CRESTETTO Dan and Barbara ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA02968 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:40:25 -0500 (CDT) From: DCA01@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:48:08 EDT Subject: usna-net: Raffle tickets To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Do you have anymore information on the Army/Navy raffle tickets?? We have three couples in our club that did not get tickets in time. Nancy Aubel Erik '00/12 Dayton Ohio *** USNA-NET post by: AUBEL Erik 00-12 AUBEL Nancy and Dave ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA03451 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:51:48 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:00:28 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Raffle tickets To: DCA01@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Well......even though I told everyone to get tickets by 7/15.....by 7/8 they were out of tickets and I have 10 families as of now that don't have tickets...so I too would love to know about the raffle ticket business...... Dindy Liebert Penna. *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA03918 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:09:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "McFadden" To: Subject: usna-net: questions Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:16:39 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 begin 666 Phone Call Question.eml M4F5C96EV960Z(&9R;VT@9&5F875L=" M(#$U,RXS-RXR,#(N,C(U(&)Y(&5M M86EL+FUS;BYC;VT@=VET:"!-:6-R;W-O9G0@4TU44%-60SL-"@D@5'5E+" Q M,R!*=6P@,3DY.2 Q,#HQ.3HR,2 M,#3H@3F]R;6%L#0I8+4UA M:6QE2!-:6-R;W-O9G0@36EM94],12!6-"XW M,BXS,3$P+C,-"E)E='5R;BU0871H.B!B;6-F861D96Y 96UA:6PN;7-N+F-O M;0T*#0I(96QL;R!E=F5R>6]N92P-"E=E)W)E($)R=6-E("8@4F5N964@36-& M861D96X@9G)O;2!2961M;VYD+"!702!A;F0@;W5R('-O;B!286UI;B!I2!O;G-I=&4@=&AA="!W87-H97,@:70@9F]R('1H M92!M:61S+B @26X@:&ES('!O2!Y;W4@87)E('=O;F1E ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA04047 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:14:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "McFadden" To: Subject: usna-net: phone call question Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:21:38 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hello everyone, we're Bruce & Renee McFadden from Redmond, WA and our son Ramin is a plebe in co E/09. We love reading the emails and the support of this site. Question on the phone calls...after this initial call we're all enthusiastically looking forward to, can the plebes call again (before Parents Weekend that is) and is it assigned again like this first phone call? Also wondering about laundry. I am under the impression that there is a laundry onsite that does it. In his postcard our son mentioned having to hurry because he had laundry to do. ?? Lastly, Dolly you are wonderful. Thank you so much for your postings. I print them and put them in a scrapbook I am making. Invaluable information GO NAVY! Renee McFadden *** USNA-NET post by: MCFADDEN Ramin 03 MCFADDEN Bruce and Renee ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA11605 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:32:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Guidelines to Live By Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:41:21 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 When my son, Michael, was a Plebe, waaay back in 1996 we received in our mailings a wonderful page written by then Superintendent of the Academy, Admiral Charles R. Larson. (With whom I had the pleasure of having lunch with on I-Day!!) Today I added Admiral Larson's words to the USNA-Net website. You can access it by going to the Website: www.navy-usna.org Click on "Family Interests" from the menu on the left. When that page comes up, click on "USNA Guidelines to Live By" (Mike will say that I have way too much time on my hands...) Sandi Zets *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA22082 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:44:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [4.3.224.71] From: "George Dodge" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: phone call question Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:53:06 EDT Bruce & Renee, and other Plebe Parents with Phone Schedule questions. The posting of the Phone Schedule on 8 July and again yesterday on the usna-plebe list contains the phone schedule for the following weekend also. For some platoons, the time is the same, for others it is different so be sure to check. Check yesterday's messages or the messages for 8 July, when you find the Phone Schedule posting, scroll down to find the date and time for the second phone call. The 8 July posting (file v1999.n063.html topic #7) by Mike Zets was from Dolly and yesterday's posting (file v1999.n071.html topic #9) was my re-posting of her earlier message. So far the letters from the Plebes have confirmed the schedule for this weekend. Not familar with the Archieves? Go to http://www.navy-usna.org/ and select Message Archieves from the left hand menu, then under the heading Messages, select USNA-Plebe Archieves. Refer to your welcome message for the Logon ID and Password. Once logged on, the messages for each day are all contained in a daily files with the most recent at the bottom of the file list (the date of the files is located just to the right of the file name). If you are just newly signed on, I would suggest going back at least to 30 June and reading all the files posted after that date to get a wealth of information on what has been happening this plebe summer and read some reports on previous plebe summers. There is a lot of good advice contained in those postings. Congratulations to all and best of luck to your plebes. GO NAVY - BEAT ARMY George Dodge Damien '03/6 Manassas, VA >From: "McFadden" >To: >Subject: usna-net: phone call question >Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:21:38 -0700 > >Hello everyone, >we're Bruce & Renee McFadden from Redmond, WA and our son Ramin is a plebe >in co E/09. We love reading the emails and the support of this site. >Question on the phone calls...after this initial call we're all >enthusiastically looking forward to, can the plebes call again (before >Parents Weekend that is) and is it assigned again like this first phone >call? >Also wondering about laundry. I am under the impression that there is a >laundry onsite that does it. In his postcard our son mentioned having to >hurry because he had laundry to do. ?? >Lastly, Dolly you are wonderful. Thank you so much for your postings. I >print them and put them in a scrapbook I am making. Invaluable information >GO NAVY! >Renee McFadden > > > > >*** USNA-NET post by: MCFADDEN Ramin 03 MCFADDEN Bruce and Renee > > >Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > >Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: DODGE Damien A 03-C DODGE George and Barbara ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA23350 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:34:25 -0500 (CDT) From: NevesPK@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:42:27 EDT Subject: usna-net: Auto Insurance To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I kep reading about discount and "no charge" auto insurance for mids at the Academy and yet when I spoke to my auto insurance agent she tells me that just can't be...for one thing is would be discrimination against other college students?......you could take them off but then when they do have a car of their own it would cost more for insurance because they have a "lapse" in coverage? I would really appreciate more information particularly from parents in Oregon and California. It sounds too good to be true....Thanks! Go Navy! Pamela Douglas 02/22 *** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA24391 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:19:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [4.3.224.71] From: "George Dodge" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Information on ARMY-NAVY GAME Raffle Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:28:53 EDT To all requesting information on the Army Navy Ticket Raffle: Go to the USNA Alumni Association web site at http://www.usna.com/ Information link is to the right of the 1 July I-Day picture. George Dodge Damien '03/6 Manasas, VA _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: DODGE Damien A 03-C DODGE George and Barbara ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA26172 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:39:23 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:47:51 EDT Subject: usna-net: Question about PPW Handbook To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I probably should know the answer to this....but I don't and so I will ask if anyone can help. There are several divorced families in our Association, as I am sure there are everywhere. It seems that only one of the parents has received the PPW mailing. Can someone tell me to whom I should place a call requesting an additional packet be sent to the other parents? Thanks for you help Dindy Liebert] Peter 00/25 *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA27178 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:18:55 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [209.156.112.195] From: "Kay McGee" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Raffle tickets Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:27:49 PDT The raffle is through the USNA Alumni Association. I believe you have to be a member. Their website is www.usna.com and you can get information there. Kay McGee Bellevue, WA 98007 Mike '01/13th >From: DCA01@aol.com >To: usna-net@navy-usna.org >Subject: usna-net: Raffle tickets >Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:48:08 EDT > >Do you have anymore information on the Army/Navy raffle tickets?? We have >three couples in our club that did not get tickets in time. > >Nancy Aubel >Erik '00/12 >Dayton Ohio > >*** USNA-NET post by: AUBEL Erik 00-12 AUBEL Nancy and Dave > > >Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > >Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: MCGEE Michael 01-13 MCGEE Kay ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA00053 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:46:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Smcchic72@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:50:55 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Auto Insurance To: usna-net@navy-usna.org If your child is at USNA (or at NAPS, for that matter) and your automobile insurance is with USAA, they do not charge you for that child. Last year when our daughter was at NAPS, I questioned them at length to make sure that if she did drive a friend's car she was still covered and they assured me that she would be. Their theory for this "discount" is that these students do not have the opportunities to drive that "regular" college students do...however, we also received a discount for our older daughter who attends a college more then 50 miles from home and does not have a car on campus. Sherry Samar Jordan 03/16 Woodbridge, VA *** USNA-NET post by: SAMAR Jordan L 03 SAMAR Jack and Sherry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA11576 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:51:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gene & Ruth" To: Subject: usna-net: Navy Army tickets Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:01:07 -0400 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F9_01BECD83.9708D1A0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01BECD83.9708D1A0 charset="iso-8859-1" I am looking for 6 Navy/ Army tickets to buy. If you hear of any please = contact me at. swimva@erols.com . Thanks. Ruth = and Gene Lastfogel = Jennifer '03 24th CO = Richmond VA ------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01BECD83.9708D1A0 charset="iso-8859-1"
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------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01BECD83.9708D1A0-- *** USNA-NET post by: LASTFOGEL Jennifer L 03 LASTFOGEL Ruth and Gene ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA14890 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:53:24 -0500 (CDT) From: RAmes50695@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:59:21 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: questions To: bmcfadden@email.msn.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org There is an attachment to this EMAIL. Has anyone opened it? Is it a safe one or an infected one>>>>>>>>>>>>> *** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA15273 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:10:16 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Attachments... Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:19:24 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... RE<<>> NO ATTACHMENTS ARE SAFE ON THIS LISTSERVER AND ALL SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY DELETED WITHOUT OPENING. We have a strict rule against sending attachments and repeat offenders will be removed from the Listservers. Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA15649 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:33:19 -0500 (CDT) From: RAmes50695@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:41:30 EDT Subject: usna-net: (no subject) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org We bought season tickets for football season. When and how will we receive the actual tickets? Thanks in advance for your help. Judy and Dick Ames Erin Borozny 03/17 *** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA15694 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:34:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:44:44 -0500 From: woodmont@edge.net (Phillip L. Patterson) To: USNA-Net Subject: usna-net: Medical Care This past February, Alan tore his ACL (anterior cruciate ligament) while skiing for the USNA club team. The faculty sponsor got him immediate ER care, had him call home advising us of the injury and made arrangements for him to be seen by USNA Orthopaedics upon return to the yard. Alan was subsequently taken by van to a nearby AF base for an MRI (we were sent a copy of the report) and surgery was scheduled. One month later, Captain John Wilkens, USNA, performed a patellar graft on Alan's knee and our son made a remarkable recovery. I travelled to Annapolis for the surgery, and was EXTREMELY impressed with his care program. The procedure was done at Anne Arundel Hospital, Edwards Pavillion (named after a USNA graduate/mother) and I found the staff absolutely giving 24kt - Blue Ribbon care to our mids; another was there the same day as Alan. I was invited to take Alan to the private residence of a friend (a motel would have been approved as well) for a quiet overnight post surgery rest. After relating Dr Wilken's pre-op discussion, surgery, and post-op regimen to my wife, we both agreed that his care was considerably better than she had experienced at the well known St. Thomas Hospital (listed as one of the top ten in US). Last year, she had torn her ACL as well. Teresa even asked if she could go to Maryland and have Dr. Wilkens do a "fix-up" of her own not so successful procedure. But sadly for her, he and his staff are for active duty Navy only. My wife and I have spent more than sixty combined years seeing patients in both university and private sector environments. Our background includes Charity Hospital/Tulane Univ., Framingham Heart Study/Boston Univ., Children's National Medical Center/D.C., NIH/Bethesda, St Jude/Memphis, etc. We have seen some of the best and occassionally, some of the not so impressive medical care in our nation. Our opinion is that the mids' medical care is top quality and certainly, in the case of orthopaedic surgery, is as fine as we could obtain anywhere! We hope the experiences of other families is as positive as those of our own. GO NAVY!! Drs. Phillip and Teresa Patterson, Tullahoma, TN Alan, '00/Free 19th, Trap and Skeet, Alpine Skiing Craig '02/Tool Time 10th, Varsity Lacrosse *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Craig E. 02-10 - Alan A. 00-19 PATTERSON Phillip and Teresa ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA15446 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:08:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Allen Hinners" To: Subject: usna-net: new members Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:16:30 -0400 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007A_01BECDD1.2D773A80" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BECDD1.2D773A80 charset="iso-8859-1" Hi everyone, My name is Peg Hinners and my husband's name is Allen. Our plebe's name = is Allen but he goes by A.J. He is in L Co./21. We also have a = daughter still at home who will be a junior in highschool. We belong to = the Greater Boston Area Parents Club as NH doesn't have a club. We live = in Amherst, NH which is in the southern end of the state. I was told = about this network by a friend who has a youngster at the Acad. I think = it is great --- especially since I now know I'm not the only emotional = parent on the face of the earth! (from reading through the archives!) We've only received one very short letter from our plebe but we are = looking forward to hearing his voice this weekend in what I guess from = what I've read, will be a very short phone call. I don't care how short = it is, just hearing from him will be great. Also can't wait for parents = weekend --- four weeks seems like a long time --- but hopefully it will = go quickly. =20 Have no idea what is going on in our plebes life at this time since his = only letter was written the day after I-day --- another reason for = looking forward to the call as maybe we will get an update about his = life. I guess I will be on this site every day --- even if it's just to read = others questions, ideas and helpful answers. It is a godsend and I'm = really glad I joined it. Thanx for being there for us! Best regards, Plebe Mom, Peg p.s. Told another set of parents about this site as she had called with = a concern --- hopefully they will join it too. ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BECDD1.2D773A80 charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi everyone,
My name is Peg Hinners and my husband's name is = Allen. =20 Our plebe's name is Allen but he goes by A.J.   He is in L=20 Co./21.  We also have a daughter still at home who will be a junior = in=20 highschool.  We belong to the Greater Boston Area Parents Club as = NH=20 doesn't have a club.  We live in Amherst, NH which is in the = southern end=20 of the state. I was told about this network by a friend who has a = youngster at=20 the Acad.  I think it is great --- especially since I now know I'm = not the=20 only emotional parent on the face of the earth! (from reading through = the=20 archives!)
We've only received one very short letter from our = plebe but=20 we are looking forward to hearing his voice this weekend in what I guess = from=20 what I've read, will be a very short phone call.  I don't care how = short it=20 is, just hearing from him will be great.  Also can't wait for = parents=20 weekend --- four weeks seems like a long time --- but hopefully it will = go=20 quickly. 
Have no idea what is going on in our plebes life at = this time=20 since his only letter was written the day after I-day --- another reason = for=20 looking forward to the call as maybe we will get an update about his=20 life.
I guess I will be on this site every day --- even if = it's just=20 to read others questions, ideas and helpful answers.  It is a = godsend and=20 I'm really glad I joined it.  Thanx for being there for = us!
Best regards,
Plebe Mom, Peg
p.s. Told another set of parents = about this site=20 as she had called with a concern --- hopefully they will join it=20 too.
------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BECDD1.2D773A80-- *** USNA-NET post by: HINNERS Allen J 03-L HINNERS Peg and Allen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA25430 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:14:55 -0500 (CDT) From: RAmes50695@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:23:29 EDT Subject: usna-net: Fwd: Everything Happens For A Reason... To: usna-net@navy-usna.org --part1_df6ee6ad.24be0571_boundary We received this in a non-Navy email this morning. I passed it along to my Plebe. Thought you might to have a copy. Judy Ames Erin Borozny 03/17 --part1_df6ee6ad.24be0571_boundary Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: air-ya05.mail.aol.com (v60.14) with ESMTP; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:10:25 -0400 by aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id IAA03778; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:10:19 -0400 (EDT) by rly-st08.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id HAA23906; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:13:02 -0400 (EDT) [204.127.131.36]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (vx) with SMTP; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:12:31 -0400 (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990714094814.REUQ2808@default>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:48:14 +0000 From: "JuLs" To: "Kina Balmaceda" , "Sabrina Zane" , "NastyNotorius Yim" , "Annie Yi" , "Derek Wong" , "Emme Wong" , "Katrina Wilhelm" , "Nate Wharton" , "Amanda Wiggins" , "Leslie Vitin" , "Cis Valeria" , "Roach Udani" , "Melissa Ugale" , "Kawai Tunoa" , "Ronald Tran" , "Larissa Train" , "Hoochie Boochie Butt Kiss Tran" , "Patrick Tom" , "Vincent Todd" , "Leggs Thompson" , "Janice Tabuso" , "Shannon Stollenmaier" , "Spirit" , "Steve Spagnuolo" , "Sweet Sexy Thang Soares" , "Lexa Sin" , "Darcie Shiinoki" , "Purplepez Santiago" , "Sharon Sanchez" , "Leanne Sakoda" , "Flora Sakae" , "Johanna Saavedra" , "Chev Ryan" , "Annie Rowe" , "SideRide99 Roldan" , "Danny-Q Rescue" , "Sprout Remata" , "Nolan Quinabo" , "Stacie Polendey" , "Kozo Chef Pereira" , "Ryry Pascual" , "Ryan Parker" , "Father Mario" , "Susie Pak" , "Shrimpy Ozoa" , "Lollipop Kid Okamoto" , "Gloria Ortas" , "Jordane Nuttal" , "Scott Nordthrop" , "Ashly Nakao" , "Huggable Spice McCormick" , "J-Nut Spice Lurssen" , "Cassandra Luo" , "Keola Loo" , "Bea Lockwood" , "Babie Boy Spice Lin" , "Edwina Lee" , "Heather Anne Law" , "Taryn Lau" , "LauLau Lau" , "Pualani Lariosa" , "Cecilia Lam" , "Maria Lagunero" , "Leila Kuzma" , "St. Louis Guard Leader King" , "Hot Sexy Chic Kim" , "Kyla Kilantang" , "Patches Guevarra Medeiros" , "Jade Hashimoto Asato" , "Samantha Higa" , "Hai Au Ho" , "Chris Hori" , "Laura Joseph" , "Aaron Joyce" , "Kelsie Kamiyama" , "Kris Kaupalolo" , "Christina Graber" , "Sheri-Berry Go" , "Daniel Gardewin" , "Hoochie Gaspar" <205@alloymail.com>, "Kaililauloa Garcia" , "Gerbal Gandia" , "Reeses Pieces Galido" , "Kimberly Furuta" , "Kristen Fullenkamp" , "Lara Frank" , "Shaunte Ferreria" , "Karli-Marie Fernandez" , "Tweedle Duh Fernandez" , "Malia Escobido" , "Cynthia Edu" , "Porsche Dudoit" , "Pebbles Dow" , "Pocho Buddy DeYoung" , "What Flabs Dela Cruz" , "Ditzy DeCosta" , "Hanai Sistah De Lima" , "Lizzie Davis" , "Bohemian Craig" , "Lani Chu" , "Winston Ching" , "Tina Chai" , "Kay Cervania" , "Uncle Chris Casupang" , "Maire Butterfield" , "Michelle Caravalho" , "Jessie Bremus" , "Bamms Braxton" , "Space Cadet Borozny" , "Brownie Spice Bolante" , "Junchy Becera" , "Mr. Barros" , "Crystal Arios" , "Shruthi Aradhya" , "Baldo Alvarez" , "Hoku Alapai" , "Daniel Akemoto" , "Air-in Abragar" , "Hazel-Nut Abinsay" Subject: Everything Happens For A Reason... Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:44:56 -0700 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0097_01BECD89.B6890800" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01BECD89.B6890800 This was sent to me by my friend, HOPE... Read it... It's really good!=0D =0D EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON=0D =0D Sometimes people come into your life and=0D you know right away that they were meant to be there...=0D to serve some sort of purpose, =0D to teach you a lesson or help figure out who you=0D are or who you want to become. You never know who these=0D people may be but when you lock eyes with them, you know=0D that every moment that you are with them,=0D they will affect your life in some=0D profound way. And sometimes things happen to you at the time that may seem = =0D horrible, painful and unfair, but in reflection you realize that without =0D overcoming those obstacles you would have never realized your potential, =0D strength, will power or heart.=0D Everything happens for a reason!=0D Nothing happens by chance or by means of=0D good luck. Illness, injury, love, lost moments of true=0D greatness and sheer stupidity all occur to test the limits of=0D your soul. Without these small tests, life would=0D be like a smoothly paved, straight, flat road to nowhere.=0D Safe and comfortable but dull and utterly pointless.=0D The people you meet affect your life. The successes and=0D downfalls that you experience can create who you are,=0D and the bad experiences can be learned from....=0D In fact, they are probably the most poignant and=0D important ones. If someone hurts you, betrays you=0D or breaks your heart, forgive them because they=0D have helped you learn about trust and the=0D importance of being cautious to whom you open your=0D heart to. If someone loves you,=0D love them back unconditionally, not only because=0D they love you, but because they are teaching you to=0D love and open your heart and eyes to little things.=0D MAKE EVERYDAY COUNT!=0D Appreciate every moment and take from it everything that you=0D possibly can, for you may never be able to experience it again. Talk to =0D people you have never talked to before, and actually listen. Let yourself = =0D fall in love, even if it doesn't seem right because you are too young or too = =0D far, just follow your heart. Surround yourself with those who make you smile= , =0D laugh, and make you happy. Break free and set your sights high. Hold=0D your head up because you have every right to. Tell yourself you are a great = =0D individual and believe in yourself, for if you don't believe in yourself, no = =0D one else will believe in you.=0D Create your own life then let go and live it!=0D =0D Give this to a friend, a loved one, or anyone who you think needs=0D strength in their lives. And let them know you care.=0D =0D -------------------- =0D =0D = =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D
This was sent to me by my friend, HOPE... Read it... It's really =0D good!
=0D
 
=0D
EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON

Sometimes people come into your = life =0D and
you know right away that they were meant to be there...
to serve s= ome =0D sort of purpose,
to teach you a lesson or help figure out who you
are = or =0D who you want to become. You never know who these
people may be but when y= ou =0D lock eyes with them, you know
that every moment that you are with =0D them,
they will affect your life in some
profound way. And sometimes = =0D things happen to you at the time that may seem
horrible, painful and unf= air, =0D but in reflection you realize that without
overcoming those obstacles yo= u =0D would have never realized your potential,
strength, will power or =0D heart.
Everything happens for a reason!
Nothing happens by chance or b= y =0D means of
good luck. Illness, injury, love, lost moments of true
greatn= ess =0D and sheer stupidity all occur to test the limits of
your soul. Without th= ese =0D small tests, life would
be like a smoothly paved, straight, flat road to = =0D nowhere.
Safe and comfortable but dull and utterly pointless.
The peop= le =0D you meet affect your life. The successes and
downfalls that you experienc= e =0D can create who you are,
and the bad experiences can be learned from....In =0D fact, they are probably the most poignant and
important ones. If someone = =0D hurts you, betrays you
or breaks your heart, forgive them because =0D they
have helped you learn about trust and the
importance of being =0D cautious to whom you open your
heart to. If someone loves you,
love th= em =0D back unconditionally, not only because
they love you, but because they ar= e =0D teaching you to
love and open your heart and eyes to little things.
MA= KE =0D EVERYDAY COUNT!
Appreciate every moment and take from it everything that = =0D you
possibly can, for you may never be able to experience it again. Talk = to =0D
people you have never talked to before, and actually listen. Let yoursel= f =0D
fall in love, even if it doesn't seem right because you are too young or = too =0D
far, just follow your heart. Surround yourself with those who make you = =0D smile,
laugh, and make you happy. Break free and set your sights high. = =0D Hold
your head up because you have every right to. Tell yourself you are = a =0D great
individual and believe in yourself, for if you don't believe in = =0D yourself, no
one else will believe in you.
Create your own life then = let =0D go and live it!

Give this to a friend, a loved one, or anyone who you = =0D think needs
strength in their lives.  And let them know you =0D care.
=0D ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01BECD89.B6890800-- --part1_df6ee6ad.24be0571_boundary-- *** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA26657 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:43:18 -0500 (CDT) From: dlgunkel@mmm.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: 3M-CORPORATE To: USNA-net@navy-usna.org Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:53:30 -0500 Subject: usna-net: D&B Competition Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I am Don Gunkel, and along with my wife Judy, have the honor of serving as president of the NAPC of Central Texas, which covers the Austin and surrounding central Texas counties. We would like to share some tidbits of info about the USNA Drum & Bugle Corps(D&B), particularly with the incoming '03 parents. Our son, Bryan('00-17), is a first set D&B detailer, serving as XO(Executive Officer), and has been a part of D&B since his plebe summer. During plebe summer, the plebes are organized into their own D&B group and perform at the parades that are periodically held. Also, they provide the accompanying music(Anchors Aweigh, and Marine Hymn) at the various "formations" during the day. Up to this point, Bryan reports that the selection process has been at the forefront of activity, however by this time, this has concluded, and today(7/14), will be the first practice parade(P-rade in academese), with the first actual parade coming up on Friday. Those of you who live close by have the opportunity of witnessing these exciting events and parents who attend the Plebe Parents Weekend will have an opportunity also. I still get a "tingly" feeling when they start playing "Anchors Aweight". When the brigade reforms next month, the plebes will be added to the rest of the D&B and this group will represent the academy in many ways over the rest of the year. In addition to the parades and formations on the yard, they will perform at football games, both home and away-word is that a contingent will attend the Hawaii game in Honolulu this year, and the ones who don't go with this group will go to Houston for the Rice game. Bryan was fortunate in being able to attend the Notre Dame game that was held in Dublin, Ireland his plebe year, and also has participated in the Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans, Disney World in Orlando, and others. This activity satisfies the academy's requirements for organized sports participation, and, as you can imagine, is a great way to escape the doldrums of the yard as well! Every year there is a formal competition(including judges) between the Air Force Academy's D&B and ours just before the football game, and in years that the game is at "home", the Coast Guard Academy's D&B participates also. For those of you who plan to attend the Air Force game, and/or attend the D&B competition, be sure to get you lodging reservations NOW! This is because the annual boat show, which is the grandaddy of boat shows, attracts EVERYONE from the east coast and beyond will be taking place in the same timeframe. Two years ago, we had to make arrangements to stay in Laurel, about 25 miles away because I waited until about six weeks before the trip to start making reservations, and found everything closer was booked up! One final thing, in order to go on the trips, which are called "Movement Orders", or "M.O.s, the mid must be "SAT", which means having satisfactory marks in both academic and military conduct requirements. On a special note to the Monti family in St. Louis; Byan says Nick made it into D&B and is playing soprano bugle. Congrats! Don & Judy Gunkel Bryan ('00-17) Austin, Texas *** USNA-NET post by: GUNKEL Bryan Scott 00-17 GUNKEL Don and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA27056 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:57:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Muskovac@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:05:53 EDT Subject: usna-net: Football Tickets To: RAmes50695@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org You will receive your season tickets by mail approx 3-4 prior to opener. That is the time frame we received ours last year. John & Cathy Muskovac, Highland, Md Stephanie, 02/30 *** USNA-NET post by: MUSKOVAC Stephanie E 02-30 MUSKOVAC John and Catherine ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA04656 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:03:57 -0500 (CDT) From: RFALL@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:11:38 EDT Subject: usna-net: First Letter To: USNA-net@navy-usna.org Greetings to all: I saw the letter from Peg Hinners. Our son, Joe ('03 L/21) is in the same platoon. My wife and I received one short letter, dated July 2, from him. He wrote that he had a good roommate and that they had been given a lot to do. We really want to know if he received the care packages and if we are sending things he needs now. Since he played the trumpet in high school, we are also curious to know if he made the Drum & Bugle Corps. Receiving his first letter which sounded positive relieved some of our anxiety. Now we wait for the first call and/or the next letter. Thanks to all for all the posted information. Ray & Angie Faller Cincinnati, OH Joe '03, L/21 *** USNA-NET post by: FALLER Joseph Raymond 03 FALLER Ray and Angie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA04946 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:11:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:16:32 -0500 From: Susy Tuthill Organization: MediaOne To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Hurray! Mail! TO all of you wonderful partners in this adventure, I GOT MAIL! After reading about all of the letters you have received, and being terribly jealous, I got two today! One is the standard one-liner you all have described. "I will be calling at..." But I got a second one, dated four days later, written over three days. He said he never had enough time to write it all at once! I am so high on cloud nine, I must be showing up on the IFR radar screens! He spoke about being "fried" for something, and I knew what he meant. LOL. I am so with it, thanks to all of you! He said he can't wait to hear my voice. AH! He also said he loved me, and appreciates all I have done for him. He added, "I would gladly put up with all of your rules that annoyed me somewhat when asked to choose between your house and Bancroft Hall!" He added these points: 1. contact his sponsor, who is a friend of mine from college. 2.we're eating at McDonalds for PPW! 3.he is drilling with rifles, saying "very cool" 4.never send anyone else I love there! 5.pain is the norm ( I am cracking up) 6.He is in the church choir (who else has a Mid there?) 7.keep care pkgs small 8.he now owns $400 more clothes 9.drinks 10-12 canteens daily 10.food is "very good", but can't eat enough due to "plebe eating rules" 11.tell everyone "Hi" 12.can't wait for Thanksgiving, and wants a family reunion I also got a letter from his Delta Company Officer. It was a nice, reassuring leter, saying welcome to the family and telling me a bit about the detailers in Delta Company. I was impressed. That's all this time. I AM SO HAPPY! See you in August and we can laugh about all of this. I can't wait to meet the faces that go with your names! Susy Tuthill Hinsdale, Il James 03-08 D *** USNA-NET post by: TUTHILL James G 03 TUTHILL Susy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA07563 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:11:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "McFadden" To: Subject: usna-net: received call from our "mentor" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:18:51 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I just received a call from our mentor. I had not read about this service anywhere...apparently it's new, and volunteer parents of graduated mids sign up to mentor us new parents. I was on the phone w/this wonderful lady for over an hour. Everything I'm going thru and feeling---she's been there and understands. Being on the west coast, one of the questions I had for her was on the sponsor families. She said that we, including the plebes, will meet our sponsor families for the first time during Parents Weekend, and that if there is one thing she wishes someone had told her at the very beginning was to rely on the sponsor family more. She went on to say we should also let our plebes know this and encourage them to stay w/them as much as possible as it will provide a much needed break. Providing the family and plebe click (and if they don't, they can ask for a new family) they are with the same family for the entire 4 years. The sponsors not only pick them up from the academy but also from the airport and are a great support. Wanted to pass that on along to all of you. I am thankful and impressed with the support we're getting (including via this net site). Renee McFadden Redmond, WA (Ramin 09/03) GO NAVY! *** USNA-NET post by: MCFADDEN Ramin 03 MCFADDEN Bruce and Renee ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA07973 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:30:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "McFadden" To: , Subject: Re: usna-net: First Letter Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:37:50 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hi- I'll throw in my "two cents" on your care package question. Our son Ramin (03 E/9) did receive two care packages we've sent but in a very brief postcard wrote "no more please until further notice due to having to stowe it" but to keep the mail coming. So that's what we're doing and waiting until THE PHONE CALL to find out details on what to send and when. Regards, Renee McFadden Redmond WA -----Original Message----- From: RFALL@aol.com To: USNA-net@navy-usna.org Date: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 11:21 AM Subject: usna-net: First Letter >Greetings to all: > > I saw the letter from Peg Hinners. Our son, Joe ('03 L/21) is in the >same platoon. My wife and I received one short letter, dated July 2, from >him. He wrote that he had a good roommate and that they had been given a lot >to do. > > We really want to know if he received the care packages and if we are >sending things he needs now. Since he played the trumpet in high school, we >are also curious to know if he made the Drum & Bugle Corps. > > Receiving his first letter which sounded positive relieved some of >our anxiety. Now we wait for the first call and/or the next letter. > > Thanks to all for all the posted information. > >Ray & Angie Faller >Cincinnati, OH >Joe '03, L/21 > >*** USNA-NET post by: FALLER Joseph Raymond 03 FALLER Ray and Angie > >Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > >Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > *** USNA-NET post by: MCFADDEN Ramin 03 MCFADDEN Bruce and Renee ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA19347 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:31:46 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: rjohnson@preferred.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:43:02 -0400 To: USNA-net@navy-usna.org From: Ron Johnson Subject: usna-net: News Hi All Got a note today. Doesn't have much time to write. Said he was HANGING IN THERE. He said he made the dummer D&B. Said it has been pretty fast paced. Ron Tn. Cale 03 10th *** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSON Cale Wayne 03-E JOHNSON Ray and Sandy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA19810 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:52:55 -0500 (CDT) From: "ALICE M MOORE" To: Subject: usna-net: HELLO Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:02:09 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal I am so glad I found this site as I was searching the web for USNA (and I thought I found most of them). We are Alice and Mike Moore, parents of Chis, 11th platoon. We live in Severna Park, MD, which is about 15 minutes from the academy. I guess we are in a unique position because we are so close but yet so far. When the weather gets hot and humid I suffer just knowing how hot it must be Bancroft Hall. The advantage of course is that we are able to hear tidbits from people we know who work at the Academy. Chis is our middle child (daughter in college in Texas and also a daughter starting high school). Chris comes from a miltary family (father graduated from the USCG Academy and mother was active duty/reserve Navy-both retired) but has spent most of his life right here in the Annapolis area. Waiting with mixed emotions for the phone call this weekend. I hope he sounds better than when we saw him after the induction ceremony on I Day. thanks for being here, Alice Moore *** USNA-NET post by: MOORE Christopher M 03 MOORE Alice and Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA25502 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:21:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gary Lee Bender" To: Subject: usna-net: Mailing Bleach Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:45:37 -0400 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012D_01BECE42.3567A1A0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01BECE42.3567A1A0 charset="iso-8859-1" We are Jeannine & Gary Bender from Newburg,PA. We have just received = our second letter from our son Michael. He says things are going fairly = well and he is appreciative of the letters and care packages. However, = he has asked us to send him bleach. Does anyone know if it is safe to = send this in the mail? Also when sending care packages what have you = found to be better, standard delivery or priority mail?=20 =20 We appreciate everyone's stories and information. It's nice to be able = to relate to other parents who share similar interests. The E-mail = makes us feel closer to our son in Annapolis. =20 Thank You! =20 Jeannine & Gary Michael ,'03/10 E=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01BECE42.3567A1A0 charset="iso-8859-1"
We are Jeannine & Gary Bender = from=20 Newburg,PA.  We have just received our second letter from our son=20 Michael.  He says things are going fairly well and he is = appreciative of=20 the letters and care packages.  However, he has asked us to send = him=20 bleach.  Does anyone know if it is safe to send this in the = mail? =20 Also when sending care packages what have you found to be better, = standard=20 delivery or priority mail?
 
We appreciate=20 everyone's stories and information.  It's nice to be able to = relate=20 to other parents who share similar interests.  The=20 E-mail makes us feel closer to our son in Annapolis.
 
Thank You!
 
Jeannine & Gary
Michael ,'03/10 E 
 
------=_NextPart_000_012D_01BECE42.3567A1A0-- *** USNA-NET post by: BENDER Michael Adam 03-E BENDER Gary and Jeannine ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA00735 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:54:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:12:41 -0500 From: L B Baskin To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Auto Insurance References: As I understand our insurance situation, last year we dropped our son from our insurance with Texas Farm Bureau while he was in Annapolis since he was not a driver at those times. We had him reinstated for the few days that he was here, each time, I believe. At least it sure made sense to me. Leland B Baskin QUinn 02/06 Waxahachie, TX. *** USNA-NET post by: BASKIN Roy Quinn 02-6 BASKIN Leland B. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA09208 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:36:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Password Change... Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:45:28 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... It's time to put a little variety in your lives. From time to time, for security reasons, we change the access USER NAME and/or PASSWORD for the archives on all lists. Effective immediately the new information is... NEW USER NAME: brigade NEW PASSWORD: shipmate all lowercase - that's important! These apply to all lists. Print this out for future reference. You never know when I'll start charging for sending out the info for those that forget or misplace them. :>) Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA09706 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:51:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:04:39 -0700 From: Susan Lemerande To: Gary Lee Bender CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Mailing Bleach References: <01bece63$bc7941a0$96689dd0@bendergl> I've never heard about a need for bleach, so I yelled over to the other room where Ted is blissfully enjoying an inane movie with no one to compete for the remote ... and I asked him how you get bleach and why you need bleach. His response was everyone was issued a bottle and, after two full years, he still has much of his initial bottle left. So, obviously I can't really help here. He suggested Michael ask his Company 1st Lt. (normally the most laid-back firstie in the company) or his assigned second class mid to either pick him up some at the Midstore or take him down there to get some. I don't think I'd mail it, personally. As for the mail, I'm in California so I always send by Priority since it's usually only 5 cents (no kidding) more than first class, but I'm always advised by the clerk so send early in the week when possible. Hope any of this helps. Susan -- A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that is in your heart, chaff and grain together, knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, keep only what is worth keeping, and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. ----- Susan Lemerande lemonade@ivic.net *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA11821 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:08:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Muskovac@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:16:52 EDT Subject: usna-net: Plebe Choir To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Parents of Plebe Choir members: Singing in the Plebe Choir is a definite plus for your mid. Not only is it an outlet from the rigors of a Plebe, but they get to see "Real People" in church on Sundays. And some of those People are their parents!! Our Daughter was in the choir and we went to church every Sunday at the Chapel during Plebe summer. We sat up front in the pew just behind the Admiral to ensure eye contact with our Plebe. Occasionaly after the service, daughter met mother in the bathroom in the Chapel basement. The Plebe choir director, Dr. Talley is simply amazing. In a few short days, he transforms those scared rookies into a beautiful blend of voices that sound like the Tabernacle Choir. The Choir brought tears to our eyes each Sunday. If you have the opportunity to attend Sunday service at the Academy Chapel, you will be flabergasted at the quality of their performance, and excited to see your Plebe. From the Choir, they progress to the Glee Club, and great opportunities to travel to Europe, Kennedy Center in D.C. and many more exotic places too numerous to mention. Nuf said. John & Cathy Muskovac, Highland, Md Stephanie, 02/30. *** USNA-NET post by: MUSKOVAC Stephanie E 02-30 MUSKOVAC John and Catherine ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA27211 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:26:00 -0500 (CDT) From: KEVINCURRY@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 07:34:36 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Question about PPW Handbook To: LIEBERTCO@aol.com CC: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org, usna-net@navy-usna.org The key to getting material sent to both parents lies with the plebes. They can designate two addresses for material to be sent to. However, only, they can do in person at USNA. Our son did this activity on I-Day as we had researched it. Kevin & Michele Curry Ryan '03/26 *** USNA-NET post by: CURRY Ryan Kevin 03-26 CURRY Kevin T. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA05284 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:30:00 -0500 (CDT) From: KKStuart@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:38:10 EDT Subject: usna-net: Parent's Club???? To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi, my name is Karen Stuart. My son is in G-14, and although I am a Navy wife of 20 years, I am new at this Naval Academy stuff. I have been priveleged to live all over Europe & the East coast of the U.S. I can tell you the ins & outs of Naval Aviators (my husband flew FA 18's) and the life they lead. My husband is now the XO of the carrier Eisenhower and we start a new experience in the "ship" Navy. But more than anything this "Plebe" experience is the grandest adventure yet. My son wants to follow in Dad's footsteps & fly (As a mother, I'm not sure I like that). I feel somewhat at a loss because here in the Hampton Roads area, we seem to be lacking in a Parents Club. Seeing as my whole Navy life has revolved around one type of organized club or another to support my husband, I find myself at a loss when it comes to a club to help me support my son. I am very envious of those of you who speak of what YOUR parents' clubs are doing. The first thing I noticed at I-Day was a woman wearing a Texas pin (from a Parents' Club). My eye was drawn to that since I am from Texas. Does anyone out there know if I can join another Parents Club? I would very much like to have fellow parents and current information to help me support my son. Please let me know if anyone has any ideas. KKStuart @aol.com Va. Bch. Va. *** USNA-NET post by: STUART Christopher 03-14 STUART Karen K. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA05432 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:33:12 -0500 (CDT) From: HillVale@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:41:48 EDT Subject: Fwd: usna-net: Auto Insurance To: usna-net@navy-usna.org --part1_9d61325a.24bf3f1c_boundary --part1_9d61325a.24bf3f1c_boundary Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: HillVale@aol.com From: HillVale@aol.com Full-name: HillVale Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:40:45 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Auto Insurance To: baskin1@flash.net We also dropped car insurance on Rich July 1, 1998. When he comes home, even for the 6 weeks over the summer, our insurance person told us that he is covered if the car is covered. We never had to "reinstate" him. After this Plebe year, he would love just driving around alone with CD's blaring in his ear. A real feeling of freedom. This 6 week's was wonderful!!! Go Navy!!! Debby McCandless Winter Park, Fl. Richard '02/11th D&B soprano --part1_9d61325a.24bf3f1c_boundary-- *** USNA-NET post by: MCCANDLESS Richard Thomas 02-11 MCCANDLESS Rich and Debby ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA06861 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:18:03 -0500 (CDT) From: MrCid1@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:26:58 EDT Subject: usna-net: auto insurance To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I just dropped my mid from my auto insurance after reading the advice on that subject. You may really need to be persistent with your insurance co. like I had to. The deal is - it is industry wide policy that any one you give permission to drive your car is covered. At first they told me they could only give him a discount for a student more than 50 miles from home. They could not remove him from our policy unless he had his own insurance. Then, when I persisted, they researched it and found that any one attending a military academy is not a dependent and permanent address is no longer our home (for their purpose anyway) he could be dropped and coverage would continue under permission to drive. They really went around in circles, but finally called back and apologized profusely. Anyway, it means a big savings for us. Carol Cipriano New Hampshire Jason 02/15 *** USNA-NET post by: CIPRIANO Jason A. 02-15 CIPRIANO Al and Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA16787 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:20:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:38:15 -0400 From: Some Cully To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: auto insurance & allownace issue Dear members, We also did our research and discovered the industry wide policy - your insurance covers who ever has permission to drive your car. Since our son was not going to be driving at the Yard for the first two years, we dropped him from the policy BUT he still could drive when he was home during those rare times. In his 2nd class year, when he bought a used vehicle,( with some of the low interest loan offered to all 2nd class), he paid for his own insurance through the military insurance - really inexpensive. He also paid for his ring and his own cellular phone bills. He has become quite skillful in managing his financial affairs. In regard to a question someone asked about how much of an allowance to send = I am really surprised to hear that parents are thinking of/or are sending an allowance (not to be confused with gifts) to their mids or paying their bills - most of my son's friends prided themselves on their independence, knew they were in the Navy (not a civilain college) and learned to budget - basically the realities of life. The very few who received 'parental compensation' ( teased etc. if they made it known) and graduated with my son this May are still expecting mom & dad to contribute toward their bills . One mid told her parents that she had enough of rooming and wanted to be in a waterfront apt. (near the Marriot Waterfront) without room mates during her TDA. Her parents had enabled her to be dependent on them and they are footing her bills still - her high rent (three times her housing allowance) and her new car payments! Another, whose parents actually live close to the Yard, moved into his parents spare apt. for his TDA (temporary duty assgmt), pays no rent, expects his parents to buy all his new ensign uniforms and goes over to mom's kitchen for dining, including lunch - his parents had given him generous allowances and had purchased new uniforms when he 'outgrew' his by 30 lbs and his new sports car while he was in the Brigade. I believe in letting them learn to wisely budget - not to deny them the lessons that are important to their success in life - ( the need for us to still be needed may result in the desire to not end our children's dependence - or some of us feel that it is a sort of reward/payment for going to the Academy which in itself thwarts the real reward.) Our sons/daughters do learn to be financially resilient, creative and innovative - and are not poverty-stricken. . In their 2nd class year, many start to invest in portfolios - and take advantage of the super low interest gov. loan. My son and his friends met with financial planners who came to the Academy and have nice investments going since that time. How many of us could do that when we were in our junior yr. of college? Well, enough said I guess. Fly Navy, Kathy Cully *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA21028 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:19:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Moderator MIA... Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:27:45 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... Sandi and I will be heading out for some well earned relaxation for a couple of days beginning this afternoon. We will be back late on Saturday Evening. I'm taking this show on the road, so I will be available but don't expect immediate responses. We will only be checking in a few times each day via my laptop. Thanks for your understanding and STAY OUT OF TROUBLE! :>) Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA26215 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:48:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Menziesw@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:53:02 EDT Subject: usna-net: plebes who are uncertain about staying... To: usna-net@navy-usna.org CC: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org For those of you who may have a son or daughter who is uncertain about staying past plebe summer, there is a prayer list which you may join. It is called "Gray-Net" and is a listserver established to provide direct support for parents/families whose plebe is considering leaving the academy or is being separated. There are only about 50 members but all are very much interested, having gone through the process themselves...with various outcomes. To promote privacy and direct contact, a message is sent describing your situation to gray-net@west-point Several members respond directly to you and from then on, all correspondence is between you and the individual members with whom you correspond. If you are interested in joining this listserver, send your name, (email) address, plebe's name and year to the following address: gray-net-owner@west-point.org This listserver originally was established for West Point Cadets and is now including Midshipmen from USNA. It is a wonderful way to be supported through prayer! Janet Scott 00/10 *** USNA-NET post by: MENZIES Scott 00 MENZIES Will & Janet ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA27507 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:45:17 -0500 (CDT) From: dlgunkel@mmm.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: 3M-CORPORATE To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:55:40 -0500 Subject: usna-net: Op Info Content-Disposition: inline This is a bit early, but I want to share something that has been a nice thing the past couple of years for my son, Bryan('00, 17). This opportunity, however, is available only to youngsters and up, in other words, plebes are not allowed to participate in this program. What I am referring to is called "Op Info", and it is a program by which mids who apply and qualify can arrange to come home early at Thanksgiving. Usually, leave at Thanksgiving begins after classes on the Wednesday the day before, but "Op Info" participants are allowed to begin leave the Friday before Thanksgiving, thus allowing an additional five days of leave. The expectation of these mids is to work with the area blue and gold officer(s) to visit selected schools in the mids' home towns and provide insight into the issues of applying for nominations to USNA. Bryan assignment has been to visit his high school and talk to students about academy life and how to prepare for admission. I think he has averaged about 2 hours on each visit spent in this way. This is a very simple explanation, and there is obviously more to it than I present here. This is just something to be aware of, and mids who are interested should watch for announcements regarding this later on in the fall. Best regards, Don Gunkel Austin, Texas *** USNA-NET post by: GUNKEL Bryan Scott 00-17 GUNKEL Don and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA15765 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:12:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1980 06:39:15 -0800 From: Stanford To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: 7/15/99 Herndon Hi I got my Herndon tape and loved every minute of it. Saw my Timmy a couple of times. Linda Stanford Tim 02/23 Indiana *** USNA-NET post by: STANFORD Timothy 02-23 STANFORD Linda ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA02029 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:55:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1980 07:22:22 -0800 From: Stanford To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: 7/15/99 packages Hi Tim had told us during the academic year not to send packages, that the ones made and sent from Annapolis where just fine. We wanted to surprize him for his birthday and paid $10 for overnight delivery. And then we waited to hear from him. A week later we e-mailed him to see if he got it. Well! Tim never checks his mail unless he is e-mailed first. We were the ones that were surprized, and wasted $10. That was the last birthday surprize for him! He will be leaving for Boston on his YP cruise next week. Does anyone know specifics, as to how long they will be where? Thanks Go Navy! Linda Stanford Tim 02/23 *** USNA-NET post by: STANFORD Timothy 02-23 STANFORD Linda ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA02552 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:11:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "Stanford" , References: <12CF7413.31D0@mail.icongrp.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: 7/15/99 Herndon Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:17:34 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I got the Herndon tape and saw Brad in the beginning. He is part of those "rebels" in Free 19 that started the party early, therefore first at the base of Herndon. Stayed at the base & as a base for most of the climb. He is laughing while lard is flying in his face and all over everywhere. It was great to watch since I never saw him until it was over that day. I just wish it would have gotten here a few days earlier, Brad left on Sunday. He is leaving on his YP at 0430 tomorrow morning. He called today and said "I am ready to 'shove off'!" Nancy Brad 02/Free 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA02648 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:12:57 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "Stanford" , References: <12CF7E2E.5681@mail.icongrp.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: 7/15/99 packages Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:19:25 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Brad told me they leave in the morning July 16 0430. They arrive in Boston July 20 and NYC July 25. The should arrive back to Annapolis July 30 and have Pass and Review July 31 AM. Nancy Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA10758 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:13:27 -0500 (CDT) From: JMJSS@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:52:07 EDT Subject: usna-net: Fwd: Bravo 03 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org --part1_58926db.24c00667_boundary --part1_58926db.24c00667_boundary Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: JMJSS@aol.com From: JMJSS@aol.com Full-name: JMJSS Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:05:57 EDT Subject: Bravo 03 To: usna-plebe@navy Looking for parents of Rob Dolan - please contact me off line if you will. Thanks, Kay Gray --part1_58926db.24c00667_boundary-- *** USNA-NET post by: JORDAN Kevin J 03-B GRAY Kay and Fred ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA11460 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:20:49 -0500 (CDT) From: JMJSS@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:52:51 EDT Subject: usna-net: Fwd: bravo-03 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org --part1_986ff67d.24c00693_boundary --part1_986ff67d.24c00693_boundary Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: JMJSS@aol.com From: JMJSS@aol.com Full-name: JMJSS Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:58:36 EDT Subject: bravo-03 To: usna-plebe@ Hi everyone! I have been reading everyone's e-mail for the past several days and have learned many interesting things about our Plebes. My husband says I'm learning too much...........because I am worrying about him every minute of the day. I think we all have to take the info that other parent's are sharing and apply that to our own son/daughter to know how they are effected. I received a letter early last week (written on 4th of July) stating everything was no so bad, but was anxious to see what the next few days would bring...................haven't heard from him since, but today his girlfriend received her first letter (she was getting very anxious). He stated that is was not extremely difficult physically although PT was tough while going on. The major thing was that they had to memorize so much.....now they have to know 3 menus ahead and that there was no free time.....every minute is accounted for. He also said that there were several who wanted to get out already but the holding company had not been formed yet (I suppose he is reffering to Tango Co). He said it was not hard enough to quit. That is a relief to me, sounds like he is hanging in there pretty good. Oh, by the way he did say that their watches had been taken away and it was pretty tough not knowing what time it was! Thanks for listening! Kay & Fred Gray Kevin Bravo 03 --part1_986ff67d.24c00693_boundary-- *** USNA-NET post by: JORDAN Kevin J 03-B GRAY Kay and Fred ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA14183 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:57:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Dilyargo@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:42:24 EDT Subject: usna-net: phone call dilemma - what would you do? To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi! My Plebe, Lora Gorsky, (Company A, Platoon 01) had only a month to adjust to the fact that she'd be in the Class of '03, and what a whirlwind month it was! Many thanks to the NJ Parents Club for helping us with much last minute information. It was just 24 hours ago that I found this wonderful world of USNA-Net, and already I feel that my insights into this new culture have quickly grown. (True confessions: I'm not too cyber-savvy, so it took me a while to find you.) It was in that same 'information feast' that I learned of THE phone call schedule. Here's the dilemma - Both my husband and I will be away at work at the time our Plebe is scheduled to call. (And no we can't change the work demands at this late date.) I see that the schedule also lists Sunday, July 25th as another time for Platoon 01. Does that mean that if she can't get through this Sat., she'll be given another opportunity to try on the 25th? Should I just leave the phone off the hook this Sat. so she can't get through? We'd appreciate any suggestions. We were thinking that someone who's been living in this new culture a while would better be able to think this through with us. It seems we've been in this "Last Minute Mode" around here and this certainly is keeping with this new tradition! Thanks in advance for any advice! Diane Gorsky Bound Brook, NJ *** USNA-NET post by: GORSKY Lora M 03-1 GORSKY Joe and Diane ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA14674 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:11:55 -0500 (CDT) From: DCA01@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:52:37 EDT Subject: usna-net: Received from Parent Coordinator To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I received the following information as president of one of the Ohio clubs. Think this information might be of use to all of you. Nancy Aubel Erik '00/12 Dayton, Ohio Many parents and parents' clubs have contacted me regarding this very serious matter. I am sorry for the disappointing news regarding the sell-out of Navy tickets. This is the earliest time in history Navy has sold out of their allotment. Once the game is a complete sell-out (BY ARMY/NAVY and the VET) an official press release will be sent by each entity involved. Here are the options available at this time. You may contact the Army Ticket office at 914-446-4996 and place a ticket order with your credit card. There are no guarantees and you will be notified September 20th as to whether or not you will receive your tickets. If not, your credit card will be reimbursed for the charges. You may also contact the Veteran's Stadium at 215-685-1500, which will have public tickets available in late August. NAAA has asked that they move date up - an announcement will be forthcoming. AN has made official requests to both Army and the City of Philadelphia to "sell back" some of their inventory. Nobody should plan on this becoming a reality. The best course of action is to place an order through Army and pay attention to Philadelphia's on-sale announcement! I hope that this is helpful. Please note in your club calendars for next year that ticket arrangements should be made in April in the future to avoid sell-outs. Elizabeth Peltosalo Parent/Honor Chair Coordinator The Naval Academy Fund 291 Wood Road Annapolis, Maryland 21402 Tel: (410)293-1950 Fax: (410)293-1940 elizabeth.peltosalo@usna.com *** USNA-NET post by: AUBEL Erik 00-12 AUBEL Nancy and Dave ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA16857 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:36:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:46:06 -0500 From: woodmont@edge.net (Phillip L. Patterson) To: USNA-Net Subject: usna-net: Laundry detail while on leave (home0 Teresa always issues advance op-orders prior to mids arrival for any breaks. "At your departure, your rooms and my house should appear as you find them upon arrival". This partially works - Thanksgiving usually leaves lots of mess with the assurance that "shipshape" guarenteed post Christmas. Springbreak - long enough to get a Saturday cleanup (maybe even get a little help with rest of house). Summer break - worst of all - they tend to bring anything and everything not stored at yard and pile it in living room, dining room, bedrooms, etc. - and if summer is split leave, one gets to step over, crawl around and shove under table/piano all the stuff not needed for summer cruise. However, they always remind their mother, "Mom, I've already been through plebe summer once, ease up, we'll get it done". And, as she lovingly picks up their laundry, folds their clothes and straightens the cyclonic wreckage created by the off-duty Navy types, she retorts "Lead by example". Ha! She has been known to do a few batches of laundry while visiting Annapolis and always carries a supply of quarters if one of the guys needs something urgently washed. Teresa says that's OK, as she will not have these laundry requests forever. You mothers, ALL of you, are terrific and should be loudly applauded; your devotion to duty and stamina are truly remarkable! Phillip Patterson, Sr. Alan, '00/Free 19th, Trap and Skeet, Alpine Skiing Craig, '02/Tool Time 10th, Varsity Lacrosse *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Craig E. 02-10 - Alan A. 00-19 PATTERSON Phillip and Teresa ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA00861 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 06:30:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Suehagan@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:39:02 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: phone call dilemma - what would you do? To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Diane et al.. Do you have a phone number at work? At least she will be able to reach one of you. How about a cell phone? Pro's on the net will tell you it is important that your daughter gets a chance to hear a friendly, home-based voice. Will she know to call these numbers if she can't reach home? Good luck. Don Hagan Kevin, '03 , C-6 *** USNA-NET post by: HAGAN Kevin R 03-6 HAGAN Sue and Don ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA01637 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:12:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: , References: <7171fed7.24c01230@aol.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: phone call dilemma - what would you do? Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:18:38 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 QUICKLY get call forwarding added to your phone and have the calls from home forwarded to work, yours or his if possible. IF not have the call forwarded to another family member or close friend. Nancy Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA07058 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:55:00 -0500 (CDT) From: KSzerdy@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:03:54 EDT Subject: usna-net: Best way to send those homemade cookies and other ways to show your love To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Dear Chris and all, I found the best way to send those homemade-with-love cookies is to pack them in popcorn! The popcorn kept the cookies from breaking plus Darren loved eating the popcorn, too! Of course, you don't want to put on extra butter before you send! Oatmeal cookies are the best warm-weather cookie to send. I found the best recipe to avoid breakage is the one right on the Quaker Oats package. Also I discovered another effective way to ship was to just ship them right in the Quaker Oats package - of course you'll want to use the large so you can pack a decent amount of cookies in it. Just wrap each cookie in waxed paper. Another way to show your love to your Mid and help out Methodist Youth Missions is to order cookies from Calvary United Methodist Church in Annapolis. They offer this Cookie Factory Care Package Service as a "ministry" to our Mids. Darren absolutely LOVED their chocolate chip cookies and they are delivered fresh from the oven right to the Mids!!!!! At $2/dozen, what a bargain!!! Deliveries for this year will be made on September 18, Oct. 16, Nov. 13, Dec. 11, Feb. 5, March 4, April 1, April 29. You can contact Calvary United Methodist Church by sending your check and a list of the above dates and # of dozens of cookies you want sent to your mid on each of these dates to the attention of Beverly Henry, 301 Rowe Blvd., Annapolis, 21401. Also indicate any message you want on the card delivered with the cookies. And no, I am not a member of the church! Just a fellow Methodist Mid-Mom extremely grateful for the occasional break from the kitchen. And no need to worry about how to pack them here. Certainly in this case, what blesses one blesses all! Hugs to all, Kathy / Orlando, FL (Darren, 02/11) *** USNA-NET post by: SZERDY Darren 02-11 SZERDY Kathline ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA08467 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:45:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "Phillip L. Patterson" , "USNA-Net" References: <378F6FDE.EF1F155@edge.net> Subject: usna-net: Rooms and money Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:51:29 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I have to echo a "fellow Patterson" on the room of a Mid at home. Some stay tidy others do not. Thanksgiving, Christmas and Spring Break left me with a clean room. OH MY was summer leave different. You could not see the floor of Brad's room for the entire 6 weeks and 6 days. He had to overflow dress uniforms into a guest bedroom closet. I have his Choaker Whites and Mess Dress at home now. I have to duty of dry cleaning and mailing them back when he returns from New Groten, CT on 19 August or so. Being in the Glee Club he had performances right up until leave began so those "dress" uniforms were in use and got sweaty! I had cleaning to do after he left. He laughed at the airport about his room and said "See Mom, you will think of me while I am gone." When he called and I reported the treasures I had found he told me they were all souvenirs for me to keep. The best one was the copies of the issue invoices that itemize what our Mids paid for every item issued! Did you know the cute "dixie cup" is priced at $8.95. Brad's Entrance Requisition Outfit invoices total: $4037.15. That's what the Academy has invested in them in materials alone on I-Day. Add the medical exams and vaccinations then the education, our Mids are very valuable!! These were 1998 prices! Enjoy tomorrows phone calls!! Report back we are all excited for Aught 3 parents!! *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA08527 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:46:17 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [152.205.36.237] From: "Catherine Parker" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: First Phone call Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 06:57:03 PDT Hi Parents & friends, My son is scheduled to make that first phone call at 10:00 Sat. morning. My husband and I will be driving from Northern Virginia to North Carolina for my niece's wedding which is Sat. afternoon. I wrote to Nick and gave him my cell phone number and told him to call that number, not the house. I have Bell Atlantic Mobile, I hope 'the call goes through'. Does that sound like a viable plan? We attended the Sunset Parade at the Marine Barracks in Washington's Navy Yard last night. I was very impressed with the state-of-mind of the plebes. They all seemed in good spirits, glad to watching a military display of excellence on a balmy summer evening. The Sunset Parade is usually held every Friday evening from June through August. Last night's parade was solely in honor of the Class of 2003. It is a wonderful show of marching bands, silent drill team and perfect unison of 150 marines with their M-1 garands. Thanks for any advise on the Sat. morning phone call. Catherine Parker Nick 03/11 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: PARKER Nicholas McAvoy 03-11 PARKER Catherine ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA11027 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:20:04 -0500 (CDT) From: ACTIONCHEM@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:28:26 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: phone call dilemma - what would you do? To: Dilyargo@aol.com, USNA-NET@navy-usna.org Diane, regarding THE PHONE CALL, I was unaware of exactly when our son would call. We waited around almost all day and night, but still managed to miss it. He called again the following evening and this time we were successful. Eric told us that the detailers go out of their way to make sure every plebe makes contact with home. To pevent this from occuring again we subscribed to call forwarding for the remainder of the summer. On a few occassions the detailers even let our son call a friend after speaking with us. Good luck and enjoy the experience, Penny Hulbert Eric 02/16 *** USNA-NET post by: HULBERT Eric 02-16 HULBERT Bob and Penny ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA21707 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:21:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "McFadden" To: Subject: usna-net: question on Op Info Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:28:55 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Don Gunkel wrote about an opportunity for mids to come home for Thanksgiving earlier if they participate in the Op Info program thru their blue & gold officirs. Do plebes qualify for this program? Renee McFadden Redmond, WA (Ramin E/09 '03) *** USNA-NET post by: MCFADDEN Ramin 03 MCFADDEN Bruce and Renee ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22300 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:40:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robin & Barbara Goffrier" To: "Parent Net USNA" References: <009001becf10$2256e8e0$36051bc4@moyra> Subject: usna-net: Re: Difficult times Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:02:25 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 As the parent of a first class mid it brings back lots of memories to read all the letters about plebe summer. You all are so lucky to have the parent net to help you along. I felt as if we were flying blind most of the way through plebe summer and really had very little information about what was going on except what Adam told us. He did learn to write long letters by flashlight and somehow managed to talk to us on the phone a lot longer than 5 minutes--still not sure how he managed that without getting into trouble. Adam never let on how miserable he was, always maintained his sense of humor when writing or talking to us. However he lost 23 pounds during plebe summer and was suffering from plebe hack when we saw him PPW. He kept upbeat during most of the weekend, though Saturday night we could see his usual cheerfulness disappearing. My husband and I talked about it wondering what the cause might be. When we met to go to church with Adam Sunday morning he burst into tears and all day Sunday was a very hard day for all of us. After church I was standing in a very long line waiting to use the bathroom in Dahlgren and the mom behind me asked if my son was crying. Hers was also. Robin video-taped part of the church service and when we watched it at home it was amazing to see how many of the mids were crying during church. Adam was in tears when we left him Sunday night as we all were. We visited him five times during plebe year and it wasn't till the trip in February that he returned to Bancroft with no tears. Adam had very difficult roommates all of plebe year--one was finally dismissed after numerous honor violations and the other would put r-rated things on Adam's computer when he didn't think Adam was letting him borrow his stuff when he should. However, Adam says he never thought about quitting which he has discovered is very unusual--most mids do. Some of Adam's steadfastness I'm sure is due to the fact that he truly felt God led him to the Academy and therefore He would get him through it. And yes, it does get ever so much better. Once Adam hit youngster year life improved. Going from being pond scum for a year back to being human again makes all the difference in the world. Adam has also had great summers, this year especially. He has seen Italy, Greece, and Hawaii, gotten to play with some incredible boats and planes and met many USNA grads who have gone out of their way to help him out and give him advice. While all his buddies spend their summers working at boring jobs he is having a ball. Our younger son spent last year at the Naval Academy Prep School as a football recruit. It nearly did him in. He was so exhausted all the time his football skills deserted him and the academics were very difficult for him. He was still struggling when he got to the end of the year and decided that as perfect as the Naval Academy was for his brother it was not for him. Of the two boys he was the one who always wanted to go to an Academy. Adam didn't really want to work that hard. :-) It was a very difficult decision for Chris, but he has been so happy since he made it. He is going to join Navy ROTC at Oregon State and become an officer by that route. I would be lying if I said there was no disappointment for us, his parents, in that decision as we love the Academy so much and have been so impressed with who it has taught Adam to become. However, we know it was the right decision for Chris and are very proud of him for making the difficult, but best choice for him. Truly, an Academy education is not for everyone. Sorry to have gone on so long. Hang in there and support you kids no matter what they decide. Barbara Goffrier, Adam, '00, 4th Co. *** USNA-NET post by: GOFFRIER John 00 GOFFRIER ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22326 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:40:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robin & Barbara Goffrier" To: "Parent Net USNA" References: <378E1C86.791F@warwick.net> Subject: usna-net: Re: allowance, messy rooms, laundry Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:27:56 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I think allowance really varies from mid to mid. One of Adam's roommates parents pay for everything for him, the others parents pay for certain things and we give Adam an allowance. We gave Adam $50 a month plebe year. There is so little time away from the yard that he didn't seem to need much money. We upped that to $75 a month youngster year as he had more time to get away from the yard. When he got his car at the beginning of second class year we kept the allowance at $75 but also agreed to split his car insurance with him till he turned 21 in April and the cost of it went down. Had we not provided some assistance he would not have been able to have the car because insurance would have taken every penny of his monthly pay check. However, before we agreed to subsidize the insurance we talked about his not getting the car till he turned 21 or getting him a car that would be cheaper to insure. We also pay for all of Adam's travel to and from home. Other than that Adam pays for everything else--travel other than to and from home, civvies, etc. He knows that when we come to visit Dad is usually good for most anything he wants from the mid-store, but he rarely asks for anything other than some snack food or toiletries. About the only time it was anything more than that was when he needed new running shoes. He waited till we got there to get them because he knew that we would be happy to pay for them. And we were. We still have saved bundles of money over what it would have cost us to send him to the University of Virginia which was where he would have gone had he not gone to the Academy. Adam has learned to be a very good manager of money in spite of the fact that we have provided some assistance. A note on messy rooms. Adam was always pretty neat at home. Now that he has been at the Academy his room is a disaster when he is home. He says he has to keep it so neat at school that it is a relief to be messy when he is home. We just require that he confine the mess to his room. :-) As for laundry at school, Adam does all of his own except for his uniforms that need pressing. That way it isn't gone for a week and doesn't disappear completely on occasion. He just finds that easier than putting everything in the "right" bag, keeping track of everthing he sends so he knows if something is missing, etc. Barbara Goffrier, Adam '00, 4th Co. Portland, OR *** USNA-NET post by: GOFFRIER John 00 GOFFRIER ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24274 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:03:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Norton Smiley" To: "usna net" Subject: usna-net: question on Op Info Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:09:49 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Plebes do not qualify for the program. Norton Smiley Devin, '00/22nd *** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA25894 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:02:58 -0500 (CDT) From: KSzerdy@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:09:44 EDT Subject: usna-net: Fwd: usna-plebe: Packages To: usna-net@navy-usna.org --part1_f1dca0ef.24c0dd78_boundary Ditto, Joyce! Never had any problems with our packages, either, and believe me we sent all kinds! Sounds like an isolated experience. And as I said, the chocolate chip cookies from the Methodist Church are delivered right to the mids, not left out on some sort of a loading dock. Kathy In a message dated 7/16/99 11:57:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, BJSBURNS@aol.com writes: << I even sent brownies this way with no apparent problems. I guess there can be problems sometimes if things are held up for long periods, but it never happened to our packages. >> --part1_f1dca0ef.24c0dd78_boundary Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v60.14) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:57:26 2000 [208.2.110.12]) by rly-yc04.mx.aol.com (v60.14) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:57:14 -0400 by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA12159; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:41:18 -0500 (CDT) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA12143 for usna-plebe-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:41:14 -0500 (CDT) From: BJSBURNS@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:48:16 EDT Subject: Re: Re: usna-plebe: Packages To: Norton.Smiley@sagemaker.com, usna-plebe@navy-usna.org Our son's favorite cookie is chocolate chip and we sent them all the time with no trouble at all. I used christmas type tins and placed them in a carboard box with other goodies surrounding it on all sides and had no trouble at all. Once opened they were gone in a flash and could easily have been sold for a small fortune rather than shared was the report from our son. I also never used any packing material, the boxes instead were stuffed full with all food and other little momentos as pictures, news, self addressed postcards etc. I even sent brownies this way with no apparent problems. I guess there can be problems sometimes if things are held up for long periods, but it never happened to our packages. Best regards, Joyce Burns *** USNA-PLEBE post by: BURNS Steven R. 02-17 BURNS Bob and Joyce --part1_f1dca0ef.24c0dd78_boundary-- *** USNA-NET post by: SZERDY Darren 02-11 SZERDY Kathline ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA26425 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:22:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:25:58 -0400 From: Connie & Dale Hilliard To: Robin & Barbara Goffrier CC: Parent Net USNA Subject: Re: usna-net: Re: allowance, messy rooms, laundry References: <378E1C86.791F@warwick.net> <000301becfb3$bda8bb40$8e84490c@BarbaraGoffrier> Robin & Barbara Goffrier wrote: > > I think allowance really varies from mid to mid. One of Adam's roommates > parents pay for everything for him, the others parents pay for certain > things and we give Adam an allowance. We gave Adam $50 a month plebe year. > There is so little time away from the yard that he didn't seem to need much > money. We upped that to $75 a month youngster year as he had more time to > get away from the yard. When he got his car at the beginning of second > class year we kept the allowance at $75 but also agreed to split his car > insurance with him till he turned 21 in April and the cost of it went down. > Had we not provided some assistance he would not have been able to have the > car because insurance would have taken every penny of his monthly pay check. > However, before we agreed to subsidize the insurance we talked about his not > getting the car till he turned 21 or getting him a car that would be cheaper > to insure. We also pay for all of Adam's travel to and from home. Other > than that Adam pays for everything else--travel other than to and from home, > civvies, etc. He knows that when we come to visit Dad is usually good for > most anything he wants from the mid-store, but he rarely asks for anything > other than some snack food or toiletries. About the only time it was > anything more than that was when he needed new running shoes. He waited > till we got there to get them because he knew that we would be happy to pay > for them. And we were. We still have saved bundles of money over what it > would have cost us to send him to the University of Virginia which was where > he would have gone had he not gone to the Academy. Adam has learned to be a > very good manager of money in spite of the fact that we have provided some > assistance. > > A note on messy rooms. Adam was always pretty neat at home. Now that he > has been at the Academy his room is a disaster when he is home. He says he > has to keep it so neat at school that it is a relief to be messy when he is > home. We just require that he confine the mess to his room. :-) > > As for laundry at school, Adam does all of his own except for his uniforms > that need pressing. That way it isn't gone for a week and doesn't disappear > completely on occasion. He just finds that easier than putting everything > in the "right" bag, keeping track of everthing he sends so he knows if > something is missing, etc. > > Barbara Goffrier, Adam '00, 4th Co. > Portland, OR > > *** USNA-NET post by: GOFFRIER John 00 GOFFRIER > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org Here's a thought about an allowance. Forget helping them live day to day. Let 'em live on their paychecks. Instead, put that money into an investment account (mutual fund,etc), each month, and help them with their financial future. Our plebe set up a mutual fund with our broker this past year. He initially deposited all of his savings and then part of each of his paychecks (remember the adage, "pay yourself first"?) We are putting a little in it each month on his behalf, as well. Quarterly, the broker sweeps his money market account and puts it in investments. We also told him to set aside something in the credit union as well. It takes at least one generation to build wealth. If you haven't done so already, start them out right. Their spouses, sons and daughters will thank you. P.S. We often rip out the stock quote page of the paper and send it with care packages. He loves it. *** USNA-NET post by: HILLIARD Brandon Barrett 03 HILLIARD Connie and Dale ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA26486 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:23:52 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [171.211.185.16] From: "Catherine Parker" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Mailing Labels Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:32:50 PDT Hi All, I love the idea from Lane Trippe of making mailing labels of my plebe's address. Yes, you are right, I do know it by heart but carrying the labels will make it that much easier. I'm going to take a page of labels to his grandmother's house this weekend. She is always sending him cartoon clippings from the newspaper, she could use a page of labels. I will also prepare some for our neighborhood friends. It will help make it easier for them and they may write to our plebe more often. Whenever I'm in CVS I pick up a bunch of postcards. The postcards have pictures of Washington, DC and will remind him of home. It is so easy to jot down a thought or a message and put it in the mail. Now with labels, it's going to be even easier. Thanks for all the good ideas. Catherine Parker Alexandria, VA Nick 03/11 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: PARKER Nicholas McAvoy 03-11 PARKER Catherine ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA28009 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:52:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Anne Paul" To: "usna-net" Subject: Re: usna-net: phone call dilemma - what would you do? Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:00:03 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Diane - Last year, our Plebe wasn't able to make his first call to us at the appointed time (I don't think we ever really knew when that was supposed to be), partly because the four time zones' difference made it hard for him to make a call during any ordinary calling times. When we finally talked to him, he told us that either his company officer or his detailer had asked him if he'd talked to his parents yet - and when he told them the problem, they insisted that he take the time to call. It appeared that it was important to them that he make contact with us and let us know he was OK. I have always pretty much operated on the principle that no news is probably good news. Good luck - Anne Paul from Alaska Scott '02/28th ---------- > From: Dilyargo@aol.com > To: usna-net@navy-usna.org > Subject: usna-net: phone call dilemma - what would you do? > Date: Thursday, July 15, 1999 8:42 PM > > Hi! > > My Plebe, Lora Gorsky, (Company A, Platoon 01) had only a month to adjust to > the fact that she'd be in the Class of '03, and what a whirlwind month it > was! Many thanks to the NJ Parents Club for helping us with much last minute > information. > > It was just 24 hours ago that I found this wonderful world of USNA-Net, and > already I feel that my insights into this new culture have quickly grown. > (True confessions: I'm not too cyber-savvy, so it took me a while to find > you.) It was in that same 'information feast' that I learned of THE phone > call schedule. Here's the dilemma - Both my husband and I will be away at > work at the time our Plebe is scheduled to call. (And no we can't change the > work demands at this late date.) I see that the schedule also lists Sunday, > July 25th as another time for Platoon 01. Does that mean that if she can't > get through this Sat., she'll be given another opportunity to try on the > 25th? Should I just leave the phone off the hook this Sat. so she can't get > through? We'd appreciate any suggestions. We were thinking that someone > who's been living in this new culture a while would better be able to think > this through with us. > > It seems we've been in this "Last Minute Mode" around here and this certainly > is keeping with this new tradition! Thanks in advance for any advice! > > Diane Gorsky > Bound Brook, NJ > > *** USNA-NET post by: GORSKY Lora M 03-1 GORSKY Joe and Diane > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > *** USNA-NET post by: PAUL Jan William 99 and Scott W. 02 PAUL Jim and Anne ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA14606 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:39:17 -0500 (CDT) From: "A & A Mc" To: "USNA listserve" Subject: usna-net: Re: Moms Vs Dads Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:46:11 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal To Larry and all, I agree that we dads are just as emotionally involved as the moms. I too think of my son, Ian 03/16 just about every minute of the day. I had many parents of past plebes tell me this would be the case but I didn't believe it. I have seen him go to numerous extended camping trips with the Boy Scouts as he was growing up. He also went to Europe to the World Jamboree for 5 weeks and it was nothing like this. I never thought that I would be more interested in what the weather was like 1200 miles away then what was happening here in Minnesota. I know that he is in very good hands and that the Navy does everything possible to help them through this period, but we've spent 18 years teaching him, helping him and protecting him. It's a very hard habit to break. We got two letters yesterday. They were written, as far as we can figure out, one day apart. In one he says, "This place sucks." and in the next he says, "It's not so bad here, although you would think it's terrible". He said the moral boost for the week was the 3 mile hump, eating MRE's and watching Saving Private Ryan. Go figure. We also received a nice letter from his company commander. I'm glad someone here said that they had received a similar letter or I would have really freaked when I saw the return address. This group has been a real help for my wife and I. Adjusting to this alien world called the Naval Academy has been a real trip. Thanks to all of you who have posted information about what is happenning on the yard. It really helps visualize their life there. I read some of the postings here and get that choking feeling that comes with the pride I feel for not only my son but all of the men and women now struggling to get through Plebe Summer. Al McColley Ian 03/16 *** USNA-NET post by: MCCOLLEY Ian Benjamin 03 MCCOLLEY Allen and Alllyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA19387 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:52:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Chris Hobert" To: Subject: usna-net: a letter - finally! Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:01:08 -0400 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F9_01BECFD6.B5CB40A0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01BECFD6.B5CB40A0 charset="iso-8859-1" Hi all! I received at letter today from my New Jersey plebe. He seemed in good = spirits and mentioned many of the same things other parents have = previously reported such as "Saving Private Ryan." He memtioned a = challenge course in which they were required to paddle a boat, then run = carrying it and then climb in and paddle again. In a separate note to = his grandparents, he said that they had failed their first inspection = "miserably" to quote him. He also said he was not at all surprised by = this nor did he really think that they would pass. I was also informed = that he never cleaned ro dusted so much in his life! That I can truly = beleive as he NEVER dusts. Vaccuum yes -dust never. Anyway, I was most = assured that he was alive and coping so far. Best from NJ Linda Hobert Christopher 03/23 ------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01BECFD6.B5CB40A0 charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi all!
I received at letter today from my = New Jersey=20 plebe. He seemed in good spirits and mentioned many of the same things = other=20 parents have previously reported such as "Saving Private = Ryan." He=20 memtioned a challenge course in which they were required to paddle a = boat, then=20 run carrying it and then climb in and paddle again. In a separate note = to his=20 grandparents, he said that they had failed their first inspection=20 "miserably" to quote him. He also said he was not at all = surprised by=20 this nor did he really think that they would pass. I was also informed = that he=20 never cleaned ro dusted so much in his life! That I can truly beleive as = he=20 NEVER dusts. Vaccuum yes -dust never. Anyway, I was most assured that he = was=20 alive and coping so far.
 
Best from NJ
Linda Hobert
Christopher =20 03/23
------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01BECFD6.B5CB40A0-- *** USNA-NET post by: HOBERT Christopher G. 03 HOBERT Harry and Linda ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA23159 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:20:21 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [198.211.17.81] From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" To: bendergl@mail.cvn.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Mailing Bleach Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:29:20 EDT Jeannine & Gary, We do not know about the safety of bleach in care packages, but we learned that "Shout" wipes are very good for small stains. We send our son his care packages US Priority Mail. Using this service gets them to the Mid's in 2 to 3 days and it will be delivered to his/her deck. Anne & Dennis Matt 03 Delta 07 ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Gary Lee Bender" To: Subject: usna-net: Mailing Bleach Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:45:37 -0400 We are Jeannine & Gary Bender from Newburg,PA. We have just received our second letter from our son Michael. He says things are going fairly well and he is appreciative of the letters and care packages. However, he has asked us to send him bleach. Does anyone know if it is safe to send this in the mail? Also when sending care packages what have you found to be better, standard delivery or priority mail? We appreciate everyone's stories and information. It's nice to be able to relate to other parents who share similar interests. The E-mail makes us feel closer to our son in Annapolis. Thank You! Jeannine & Gary Michael ,'03/10 E _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: KOLB Matthew V 03-D KOLB Anne and Dennis ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA28393 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:02:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Rick54More@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:09:41 EDT Subject: usna-net: usna-plebe:Sleeping with his rifle To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello to everyone, this our first time writing to you all. We are Rick and Lisa Moore from Fairborn, Ohio our son Mitch is in L/21, class 2003. Its been so great to read all the letters and info that's been placed here on this site. We can't wait to ride the same ship with you all for the next four years. Mitch went to NAPS so we have been through some of this already. It was a long last year with him in Newport, R.I. . It was a long, hard drive there and back, but it was really worth it for Mitch. The change we have seen in Mitch is like the one you will see in your sons and daughters and it will make you even more proud than you already are. We have gotten two letters from Mitch so far, the first one was mostly about the phone call and that he was OK, the second said a lot more. The second came today 7/16/99 said he had a bed mate this week, don't know her name but he dropped her do to his sweaty hands. I guess that what happens when you drop your rifle. Said he slept pretty well, I know he loved it, one of his favorite movies is Full Metal Jacket. He has been sailing, said it was OK but he was the only one that had sailed before, he can't wait to sail on the big 42 foot boats, everyone gets 6 hours on each of the three types of sail boats they have. Send more food was in there as well like so many others have said. On a positive note he said that NAPS was harder and that this seemed easier (Don't tell the detailers), but there was a lot more memorization to do here. Thanks to everyone else for sharing so much. Go Navy Beat Army! Rick and Lisa *** USNA-NET post by: MOORE Mitchell A 03-21 MOORE Richard and Miriam ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA23704 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 05:37:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 06:46:13 -0400 From: Peggy Wittenschlaeger To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Response to difficult times Thank you Barbara, for the descriptive letter, regarding your son's reaction to returning to the yard after leave. You are so wonderful to share this personal information. I am the mother of a plebe, Ernst Wittenschlaeger, 20th co. I must admit without prior knowledge of Adam's experience, if my son reacted like this, I might of been really worried. Now I am emotionally prepared, and will be on guard. We received a letter from him last week, he is doing fine, however has lost 11 pounds so far. He has also joined the choir, as I see many others have done as well. I am so thankful to all the the parents out there for sharing . Peg Wittenschlaeger, Ernie 03 20th CO. *** USNA-NET post by: WITTENSCHLAEGER Ernst D 03-20 WITTENSCHLAEGER Peggy and Ernst ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA01163 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 08:47:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Bep33@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:56:16 EDT Subject: usna-net: YP - Boston To: usna-net@navy-usna.org If you have contact with your mids who are going to be in Boston next weekend as part of the YP cruise, let them know that the Boston Seaport Festival will be held July 23, 24, and 25 at the Charlestown Navy Yard. The Boston Harbor Parade of Lights and Fireworks will be on Saturday the 24th. More info on www.conventures.com Brad Powers Tulsa *** USNA-NET post by: POWERS Joshua Dustin 00-2 POWERS Brad ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA03623 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:02:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "USNANET" Subject: usna-net: YP's Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:08:30 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 According to the YP tracking on the internet, it appears as though the YP's have stalled around NY. I wonder if this isn't due to the Coast Guard activity searching for JFK jr's missing plane. Any input would be great. Nancy Brad 02/Co19 Men's Glee Club YP683 heading to Boston *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA04123 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:18:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: rjohnson@preferred.com Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:29:59 -0400 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: Ron Johnson Subject: usna-net: Phone call Got that first phone call. Boy! Sounded a little rough. Couldn't talk very good. Throat sore from screaming. Said he missed us and loved us. It was good to hear from him, but we can't begin to imagine what they are going through. Five minutes wasn't long. Can't wait to see him. Ron & Sandy Cale 03/10 *** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSON Cale Wayne 03-E JOHNSON Ray and Sandy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA06055 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:07:31 -0500 (CDT) From: RAmes50695@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:15:59 EDT Subject: usna-net: We got our call!!!! To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello to all, We received our precious three minute phone call this morning right on schedule. Our daughter, though still bothered by bursitis in her hip, sounded very upbeat. She said she is slow in the running excursuses, but her comment was "This is HARD but I CAN DO IT!!! Thank God. We, like some others had been anticipating this call with mixed emotions........so excited to hear her voice, but not certain we wanted to hear what she may have to say. Our fears were dispelled immediately. She sounded very positive. We pray that her physical condition doesn't cause her or her platoon much grief and that she can maintain her positive attitude. We are sooooo relieved. We wish you all the same good news with your calls. Thanks for your support Judy and Dick Ames Erin Borozny 03/17 *** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA06116 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:09:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carbaugh" To: Subject: usna-net: next phone call Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2099 12:23:05 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To All, We also had our very short phone call. We had previosley decided to have Brian call my cell so no matter where I was I would get that call. I nearly went ballistic when we were disconnected after only about 10 seconds! When the phone rang I grabbed it and said "HI! I LOVE YOU!..." I heard him say "I love you too" when static took over the line and we were disconnected! I screamed and was ready to burst into tears when the phone rang again...typical of my cool/calm son... He sounded great. He sounded like he was smiling while he was talking! I have a question. Did the phone call schedule that included next weekend mean they would be calling again? Or was that schedule for Plebe's who did not get through this weekend? Thanks for your support and help! Glenda (Brian 03 /30Papa) *** USNA-NET post by: CARBAUGH Glenda 03 CARBAUGH Glenda and Marty ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA09949 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:39:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "Carbaugh" , References: <0015022eeeb2$22c262a0$7b228318@mw.mediaone.net> Subject: Re: usna-net: next phone call Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:45:38 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 The Plebes will call again next weekend as per the phone schedule... give or take and hour or so!! :-) Nancy Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA11336 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:42:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Bep33@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 13:51:14 EDT Subject: usna-net: YP's To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Is one squadron going to Boston this weekend and other to NYC this weekend? My son told me his squadron would be in NYC this weekend. I hope he knows what he's talking about since he's the operations officer on his YP! :-) Brad Powers Tulsa *** USNA-NET post by: POWERS Joshua Dustin 00-2 POWERS Brad ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA11641 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:51:25 -0500 (CDT) From: RAmes50695@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:00:00 EDT Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Blessings To: Bep33@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Dear Brad, I thought I was the only one who had a tinge of the green stuff flowing when reading about tailgating at the Marine parade. I am so grateful, though for the accounts of those who can be there.......for the connection I feel with my daughter when I hear about her activities and whereabouts as seen through someone else's eyes. Those of you who ARE fortunate enough to BE THERE, Please continue to share with us. *** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA19628 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:50:05 -0500 (CDT) From: RAmes50695@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 15:58:50 EDT Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Re: Phone Call!! To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Dear Bill and Dale, Thanks for the help with care packages.........all good ideas. I have also sent powdered Gatorade and a one quart Rubbermaid bottle, Dr. Scholl's blister pads, moleskin heel pads, Clearasil cleansing pads, small pop top cans of tuna fish (with a plastic bag for disposal, a wet wipe and a fork), a single use camera, Advil, Bengay, a 4x6" flag (for the room), A cardboard photo box for her letters and cards, honey roasted peanuts, a toothbrush, some quarters for the vending machines, stamps, single serving applesauce................ *** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA19994 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 15:03:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: , References: <57bb7c5d.24c23a7a@aol.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Re: Phone Call!! Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 15:09:45 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Unless I am mistaken or things have changed since last summer, Plebes do not "rate" the vending machines during Plebe Summer. Oops, "rate" in this manner means: allowed use of. Nancy Brad 02/CO19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA23537 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 15:30:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:38:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: plebe mail Is anyone else getting plebe mail? I thought this address was only for non plebe 'rents? Please correct me, I may very well have been mistaken. Thanks. peace and hugs....Jo Oliver John '97 Long Island NY *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA23849 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 15:41:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Socalday@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:50:21 EDT Subject: usna-net: YP To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I am also wondering about the YP schedule since some cruises seem to have more boats then other cruises. In the past there have been times when the YP splits up between the ports and other cruises when they all are in the same port at the same time. My mid never gave me any details about the cruise other then he was on a boat with a really great group and I know he had a fun week last week. He completed NTT and enjoyed "seal week," much to my surprise, he said "marine week " was awesome. Because of the Monday holiday, really awesome and fun things were packed into 4 days. Paint Ball at Fort Mead, the Confidence Course at Quantico, Spy-rigging from Farragut Field with 1000 ft. of air between you and the ground while cruising at 50 mi. hr. hanging from a rope. Riding in a CH-54 Stallion Helicopter with the back open and really moving.........wrestling in Bear Pits and the list goes on. Too Cool! I can't wait to hear about YP. Celeste Day Lance-00 1st Trevor-02 14th *** USNA-NET post by: DAY Trevor 02 Lance 00 DAY Jim and Celeste ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA24276 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:00:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "USNANET" Subject: usna-net: APRS DISPLAY OF ACADEMY BOAT TRACKING Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:07:06 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BED06E.6A3CC4E0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BED06E.6A3CC4E0 charset="iso-8859-1" After several private requests for the YP and Sailing tracking site I am reposting that web address. Happy tracking!! Nancy Patterson Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/boats.html ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BED06E.6A3CC4E0 name="APRS DISPLAY OF ACADEMY BOAT TRACKING.url" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="APRS DISPLAY OF ACADEMY BOAT TRACKING.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/boats.html [InternetShortcut] URL=http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/boats.html Modified=607F860C98D0BE0198 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BED06E.6A3CC4E0-- *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA24899 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:32:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 04:42:35 -0500 From: woodmont@edge.net (Phillip L. Patterson) To: USNA-Net Subject: [Fwd: usna-net: Brigade Organization] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B86CC0FB276621476A26DE17 --------------B86CC0FB276621476A26DE17 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-58127U5600L300S0V35) with ESMTP id AAA7689 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:50:34 -0500 by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA22701; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:41:31 -0500 (CDT) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA22628 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:41:18 -0500 (CDT) From: rdropek@uswest.net Delivered-To: fixup-usna-net@navy-usna.org@fixme Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 19:53:37 -0600 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Brigade Organization Hi, Here's the Brigade Organization, from the smallest unit to the largest... Fire Team Squad Platoon Company Battalion Regiment Brigade During Plebe Summer, the companies are listed alphabetically, and Juliet Company may be skipped. Our son said there is no "J" Company because that was Custer's Company and no one wants to follow in those footsteps. Pam Dropek Sandy, UT Ryan, '01 22nd CO, Plebe Summer Weapons Detail *** USNA-NET post by: DROPEK Ryan Bradley 01-22 DROPEK Rich and Pam Spread the word about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. REMEMBER TO SEND YOUR MESSAGES IN PLAIN TEXT (ASCII) ! If you don't see this message at the bottom of your postings, you're not sending in Plain Text. Our website is www.navy-usna.org --------------B86CC0FB276621476A26DE17-- *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Craig E. 02-10 - Alan A. 00-19 PATTERSON Phillip and Teresa ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA00840 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:49:39 -0500 (CDT) From: USNAMOM03@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:58:31 EDT Subject: usna-net: Phone call To: USNA-Net@navy-usna.org To all: I received the phone call this morning at 9:35. Which was the between the 9:00 -9:45 A.M. time frame. There was no yelling in the background which was a blessing. Christopher sounded great. He said things were going well and he was basically just sweating all the time and the laundry just wasn't coming back quick enough for him. We finally had the chance to find out about his roommate as the fellow plebe was not in the room before the induction so he had no knowledge of his roommate at that time. He did say that he was pretty cool and from New York. He has only received one of the two packages that we sent and I told him I was mailing out another today. I hope this one gets there quicker since I baked brownies. He sounded very upbeat and positive. Also joined the choir as many fellow plebes. Relayed the same as several of the others to keep the mail coming. He said he did send out a letter yesterday, so now I will be extremely anxious until we receive it. Overall the conversation lasted about three minutes and I was very happy. Chris told me when he had 12 seconds left so we were able to finish the conversation on a good not. I don't know if there is something wrong with me, but I have not been crying as I hear several other parents admit. I am usually a very emotional person but I believe that he is in the safest place a 19 year old young man can be. It was such a long hard road to get to the Academy and when I saw Chris in his uniform on I day, I just knew in my heart that this was meant to be. One other note Chris told me was no one from his squad has left but there is one person that is having some doubts. I hope all works out for that plebe. May God send his blessings down on all our plebes to keep them safe and for them to succeed to the best of their ability. Loretta Napierkowski Christopher 03 H/16 Philadelphia, PA *** USNA-NET post by: NAPIERKOWSKI Christopher 03 NAPIERKOWSKI Loretta ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA19014 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 22:56:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 11:06:39 -0500 From: woodmont@edge.net (Phillip L. Patterson) To: USNA-Net , Loretta Napierkowski Subject: usna-net: Coolest E-Mail Address Dear Loretta, USNA Mom 03, that has to be one sharp call sign. I also just wanted to say that our son Craig also joined joined the choir during plebe summer - he said the Protestant group had pizza for lunch and the air conditioning was super. Our family is Catholic but understood the quest for calories. We are enjoying your e-mails, as well as those of all the parents. Having had two sons pass through USNA plebe year (each completely different personalities), we are seeing mirror images of many of our own thoughts and emotions. Furthermore, we vividly recall the feelings ranging from utter elation to sincere worry. Our personal analysis: service academy parents are some of the most considerate, interesting and fun people with whom to associate. We learn something new from them always. Cheers!! Phillip and Teresa Patterson, Middle TN Parents Assn. Alan, '00/Free 19th, Trap and Skeet, Alpine Skiing Craig, '02/Tool Time 10th, Varsity Lacrosse Joseph, '03/Foxtrot Co., Beast Barracks, West Point (there is always one in every crowd!) *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Craig E. 02-10 - Alan A. 00-19 PATTERSON Phillip and Teresa ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA01875 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 11:30:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: PHOTO CD's.... Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:39:43 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... STOP !!!! I have a lot of experience with Digital images and Photo Processing and here is the Definitive answer to the recent postings about digital images, email and our Listserver... First... Any film, including already processed negatives, can be digitized for use in your computer. Simply ASK the photo lab to put them on disk. For about $5.00 per roll you can have all the images produced in a digital format that you can view on your computer. Next, The offer to have the developer put them on a site for viewing is a VERY BAD IDEA !!!!! After 30 days they are GONE. You paid the money and don't have them any more. It's MUCH BETTER to get them on a 3 1/2" floppy disk and then keep them forever. Next... The only way you can send pictures to another person via email is to ATTACH the photos to your message and attachments are FORBIDDEN on our Listservers. You can send them to private individuals but you MAY NOT send them to our membership via the Lists. If you want to share photos with the group, send them to me and I will put them up on our website for everyone to view the way we did with the YP photos in New York. Lastly, I have a scanner and have gotten photos on disk from developers. The resolution of the scanned images is FAR Superior to those coming back on disk. But there is technology that must be mastered to use a scanner and get good results. This is probably beyond the average new computer user so your best bet is disks from your processor. AGAIN, DO NOT SEND PHOTOS AS ATTACHMENTS (or as FORWARDED things) TO OUR LISTSERVERS!!! Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA02741 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:03:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: New Jersey Website... Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:12:48 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... We have a new Parents' Club website for the Members of New Jersey. you can find it at www.navy-usna.org/NJPC or by going to our website map under Parents Clubs and clicking on the state of New Jersey ( the little one on the right side of the country... :>) ) Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA03291 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:27:27 -0500 (CDT) From: HillVale@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:36:23 EDT Subject: usna-net: YP boat 694 New York To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello, we just heard from our Youngster from the New York World Trade Center. He is on YP 694 with 32 other Mids. They arrived there Saturday 7/14. The entire group will be on the David Letterman Show Monday night. Today they are walking around site seeing and it is hot. Rich was able to "CON" (gave orders to the helmsman) the ship into the NY Harbor. He said that he loves being on the bridge and in the pilot house (steering house). The boat is 110' long with 33 Mids. He is "berthing" in the front of the boat with 12 other guys (very small). There is no one from his company with him. Josh Lawman (in D&B) is walking around with him today. They have been at sea for 2 days and there has been no seasickness. He had engineering watch on the bridge. At night he was on the bridge and made a circle formation; " not much traffic, it was easy". Only lights from other boats could be seen. In his own words..."THIS IS THE BEST. I LOVE IT!!!" He said that he loves "chilling out" on the boat. I felt the excitement of a Plebe parent getting their first call. Will look forward to YP news from others. Debby McCandless Winter Park, Fl. Richard '2/11th D&B soprano *** USNA-NET post by: MCCANDLESS Richard Thomas 02-11 MCCANDLESS Rich and Debby ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA03583 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:35:37 -0500 (CDT) From: BJSBURNS@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:43:35 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: PHOTO CD's.... To: mzets@mail.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org In a message dated 7/18/99 4:44:50 PM, mzets@mail.com wrote: >STOP !!!! I have a lot of experience with Digital images and Photo >Processing and here is the Definitive answer to the recent postings about >digital images, email and our Listserver... Dear Mike, I trying to make certain I understand "STOP!!!!!" Is the question I asked another forbidden topic of conversation on the list? Hence use of the capitalized word stop, meaning don't bring it up again or discuss this here anymore? If so I am sorry for bringing it up, but I never mentioned a word about attaching anything to emails going to the list. I said: > Does this mean that we could have the film >processed on a CD and then send the pictures to others as Mike etc and all >could see if their son or daughter is in a picture we've taken. If so how >would we do it? Thanks for any help you can offer. I was asking very simply how one would send to you Mike to possibly post to the website (copy of the floppy via regular mail or email attachment to you privately) and others (privately) on for instance the same YP cruise as our son who I know would be on the pictures. I am sending video copies and photos to families already who have Mids in the pictures I've taken. But I am also aware that I have pictures of Mids who are not identified and was only trying to find a way to make them available to those who live far away and do not get to take the number of pictures and video that we do. I am very well aware of the rule regarding no attachments and was writing to others who I assume are also aware of the same rule since it is mentioned very frequently as a reminder to all. Therefore, I did not think I needed to even bring up the issue of attachments to email since to me attachments to email going to the list is not an option. I apologize for getting you all upset over nothing! Best regards, Joyce Burns *** USNA-NET post by: BURNS Steven R. 02-17 BURNS Bob and Joyce ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA04207 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:00:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" To: "" References: Subject: Re: usna-net: PHOTO CD's.... Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:09:07 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Joyce and all, First of all, Mike is NOT upset... Second, this was not a forbidden topic... BUT, Mike was trying to prevent a (or several) new parents, who do not know as much about computers from getting photos copied to disk and sending them to the Lists without considering the attachment issue. There have been an increasing number of attachments sent to the list lately. We have MANY members who are really new to all this email and computer stuff. Mike and I actually received a request for membership this week that carried the HAPPY99 virus with it as an attachment!! Anyone who has photos in digital form who wants them posted on the net can send them to me or Mike privately (NOT to the Lists) and we will see that they get put on the Website for all to see. Mike's posting was more to inform everyone of how to go about getting your photos into digital form, since there are so many questions concerning how to do this. Hope this helps. Sandi *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA11193 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:51:00 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1980 14:45:56 -0800 From: Stanford To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: 7/18/99YP in Boston Has anyone heard anything about or from the youngsters going to Boston on the YP's? I can not use the apr tracking on my computer at home. Thanks for any information or pictures you can send Go Navy! Linda Tim 02/23 *** USNA-NET post by: STANFORD Timothy 02-23 STANFORD Linda ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA15447 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 16:29:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Stamperhog@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:37:14 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: auto insurance & allownace issue To: cullfam@warwick.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org In a message dated 7/15/99 12:36:31 PM, cullfam@warwick.net wrote: << In regard to a question someone asked about how much of an allowance to send = I am really surprised to hear that parents are thinking of/or are sending an allowance (not to be confused with gifts) to their mids or paying their bills - most of my son's friends prided themselves on their independence, knew they were in the Navy (not a civilain college) and learned to budget - basically the realities of life. >> Would love to know how they did this on $50/month as a plebe. Must have been a really Spartan existence. Lynn Bensy *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA16532 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:03:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Stamperhog@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:12:39 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Cars at school????? To: JMJSS@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Can someone please tell me the policy for mids having cars at school??? I KNOW only the firsties can keep their cars on the yard, and I THINK the 2nd class can have cars in town, but wondering what's the rule for cars for Youngsters. Lynn Bensy *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA16825 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:16:52 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [198.211.16.166] From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" To: Stamperhog@aol.com, JMJSS@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Cars at school????? Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:25:54 EDT Lynn, No cars are allowed for the first two years at USNA. As you stated Firsties can have cars and are assigned parking on the Yard, while 2nd Class can have cars but cannot park on the Yard. I understand most keep them in the football stadium parking lot. If my understanding is wrong, someone out there please advise. Anne & Dennis Kolb Long Island , NY Matt 03 Delta 07 ----Original Message Follows---- From: Stamperhog@aol.com To: JMJSS@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Cars at school????? Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:12:39 EDT Can someone please tell me the policy for mids having cars at school??? I KNOW only the firsties can keep their cars on the yard, and I THINK the 2nd class can have cars in town, but wondering what's the rule for cars for Youngsters. Lynn Bensy *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: KOLB Matthew V 03-D KOLB Anne and Dennis ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA19242 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:06:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Norton Smiley" To: Cc: Subject: RE: usna-net: Cars at school????? Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:19:01 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990718222554.30141.qmail@hotmail.com> Re: Cars at USNA Firsties may have cars parked on the yard while 2nd class midshipmen must keep them off the yard in and around Annapolis. Many residents permit parking to 2nd class at a monthly fee. Firsties have parking slots marked around the yard. Many are located down by Hospital point and adjoining soccer fields. Some are allowed in parking lots just outside Bancroft Hall. My nephew, Chuck Ferrell,'97 parked his car right outside Bancroft Hall in a slot marked for First Class parking only. Norton Smiley Devin, '00/22nd Westport, CT -----Original Message----- From: Anne&Dennis Kolb [mailto:civies03@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 6:26 PM To: Stamperhog@aol.com; JMJSS@aol.com; usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Cars at school????? Lynn, No cars are allowed for the first two years at USNA. As you stated Firsties can have cars and are assigned parking on the Yard, while 2nd Class can have cars but cannot park on the Yard. I understand most keep them in the football stadium parking lot. If my understanding is wrong, someone out there please advise. Anne & Dennis Kolb Long Island , NY Matt 03 Delta 07 ----Original Message Follows---- From: Stamperhog@aol.com To: JMJSS@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Cars at school????? Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:12:39 EDT Can someone please tell me the policy for mids having cars at school??? I KNOW only the firsties can keep their cars on the yard, and I THINK the 2nd class can have cars in town, but wondering what's the rule for cars for Youngsters. Lynn Bensy *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: KOLB Matthew V 03-D KOLB Anne and Dennis *** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA21477 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:22:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "Van Spiros" To: Subject: usna-net: cars Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:05:06 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal A lot has been written about the rules of car use on the Yard and who can have cars. All of the information is accurate. I just want to add an additional bit of info--many youngsters will pressure parents to let them have cars and many youngsters do have cars parked at sponsor's homes. Be warned parents, you will be pressured!! One thing the Navy does teach our kids is how to push the envelope and try to get away with it!! Also, this spring a lottery was done for '01 parking spaces at the Naval Station (or hospital point). About 200 mids were granted spaces. Some will have cars and some will use their space as leverage with "friends"!! Good luck to all, Carolyn Spiros Boston, MA *** USNA-NET post by: SPIROS Michael 01-30 SPIROS Van and Carolyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA22661 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:13:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Norton Smiley" To: Cc: Subject: RE: usna-net: cars Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:25:38 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990719003122.TDEI9368@kookla> Carolyn, I'm confused; it is my understanding '01 mids cannot have cars in the yard. Thus, I thought only '00 mids will be able to park in the yard this coming year. Hospital Point is part of the yard. Norton Smiley Devin, '00/22nd Westport, CT -----Original Message----- From: Van Spiros [mailto:BismarkS@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 11:05 AM To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: cars A lot has been written about the rules of car use on the Yard and who can have cars. All of the information is accurate. I just want to add an additional bit of info--many youngsters will pressure parents to let them have cars and many youngsters do have cars parked at sponsor's homes. Be warned parents, you will be pressured!! One thing the Navy does teach our kids is how to push the envelope and try to get away with it!! Also, this spring a lottery was done for '01 parking spaces at the Naval Station (or hospital point). About 200 mids were granted spaces. Some will have cars and some will use their space as leverage with "friends"!! Good luck to all, Carolyn Spiros Boston, MA *** USNA-NET post by: SPIROS Michael 01-30 SPIROS Van and Carolyn *** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton and Harriet ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA22831 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:16:31 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "Stanford" , References: <12CFE624.5CB6@mail.icongrp.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: 7/18/99YP in Boston Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:22:48 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 According to the YP tracking site, the YP's on their way to Boston are still on the North Shore of Martha's Vineyard. They looked to have made 20 or more passes back and forth. Early this morning they had just started a "zig-zag" pattern. I would have to say they are aiding in the search for Kennedy's Piper. I cannot think of any other reason they would still be in the same area. Those phone calls on Tuesday should be interesting. The other half of the YP's are docked in NY and seeing the sites. Nancy and Todd *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA27599 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:55:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Bep33@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:02:19 EDT Subject: usna-net: Youngsters & Parking To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Our families have discovered that there are long waiting lists for parking slots at the non-Academy parking lots close to the Yard. If your mid is going to have a car at the Academy next year it is not too early to begin contacting those lots and getting your names on waiting lists. Brad Powers Tulsa *** USNA-NET post by: POWERS Joshua Dustin 00-2 POWERS Brad ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA27686 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:56:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Stamperhog@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:04:18 EDT Subject: Re: [Fwd: usna-net: Brigade Organization] To: woodmont@edge.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org In a message dated 7/17/99 4:46:46 PM, woodmont@edge.net wrote: << Here's the Brigade Organization, from the smallest unit to the largest... Individual Midshipman X 4 = Fire Team 3 Fire teams = Squad (12 mids) 3 Squads = Platoon (30+ mids) 4 Platoons = Company (120+ mids, plus company officers) 5 Companies = Battalion (600+ mids) 3 Battalions = Regiment (1800+ mids) 2 Regiments = Brigade (3600+ mids) >> I have added to the above info to indicate how many mids in each). Hope it makes sense to you. Lynn Bensy (mom of Ben, 02/"Slacker six") *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA27928 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:58:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:12:05 -0700 From: Susan Lemerande To: Stamperhog@aol.com CC: cullfam@warwick.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: auto insurance & allownace issue References: <9d8b348.24c3a30a@aol.com> Plebes really don't get out much, and besides, the care packages come and hopefully the sponsor provides some of the comforts of home from time to time. I don't have extra money to send too often and Ted got through his plebe year on his $50. Had to. Spartan, perhaps. But that's kind of how we live at home, too. Susan :-) Stamperhog@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/15/99 12:36:31 PM, cullfam@warwick.net wrote: > > << > In regard to a question someone asked about how much of an allowance to > send = I am really surprised to hear that parents are thinking of/or are > sending an allowance (not to be confused with gifts) to their mids or > paying their bills - most of my son's friends prided themselves on their > independence, knew they were in the Navy (not a civilain college) and > learned to budget - basically the realities of life. > >> > > Would love to know how they did this on $50/month as a plebe. > Must have been a really Spartan existence. > Lynn Bensy > > *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org -- A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that is in your heart, chaff and grain together, knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, keep only what is worth keeping, and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. ----- Susan Lemerande lemonade@ivic.net *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA28153 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:59:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:13:29 -0700 From: Susan Lemerande To: Stamperhog@aol.com CC: JMJSS@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Cars at school????? References: Second class mids can have cars -- the trick is finding a place to park. Stamperhog@aol.com wrote: > Can someone please tell me the policy for mids having cars at school??? I > KNOW only the firsties can keep their cars on the yard, and I THINK the 2nd > class can have cars in town, but wondering what's the rule for cars for > Youngsters. > > Lynn Bensy > > *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org -- A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that is in your heart, chaff and grain together, knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, keep only what is worth keeping, and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. ----- Susan Lemerande lemonade@ivic.net *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA05903 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:35:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "nouranicn" To: Subject: usna-net: NEWCOMER TEARS & TECHNOLOGY Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:42:18 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I just missed my son's (4C) first phone call home. At his end of the line, he undoubtedly heard that his collect call was "denied." I had prepared to record our first conversation. I sat by the phone at the appointed hour, answered the call at 6:30 am; proceeded to press "#" to record; then "2" to record into mailbox 2 on the answering machine. When I put the receiver back to my ear, I heard the recorded MCI voice say, "press 1 to accept charges; press 2 to deny. I'm sorry, your caller has hung up." I sat frozen by the phone, realizing that I had just "hung up" on my son. Hopefully years from now, we can look back and laugh. The only thing I could think of doing (at the recommendation of a 2C mom) was to call a local service and ask that 2 dozen cookies be delivered. Who knows if he ever got them. And, if he did, did he suffer more because "mommy sent him sweets!" Signed, Nancy N. (S. Calif.) (in the learning phase) *** USNA-NET post by: NOURANI Cary L 03-26 NOURANI Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA07247 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:46:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "USNANET" Subject: usna-net: YP's Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:52:23 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Just want to make sure everyone understands that the location of YP's is on the tracking site. I am and can only speculate what thay are doing sweeping back and forth off shore. In the last hour the tracking has changed to a couple sweeps and a "zig-zag". As soon as I hear from my Mid , hopefully on Tuesday I can enlighten anyone who is interested as to what they were doing today. That is provided my Mid will tell me. He has been know to say, "I COULD tell you, but I would have to kill you!" is response to a question about the Yard. Sorry about the attachments yesterday. I went to the tracking Website and mailed it as a link. I did not see that it had come through as an attachment until it showed up in my sent box. Sorry net members and Mike. I usually do try to follow rules, if I like them!! :-) Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA07890 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:51:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [207.115.62.85] From: "Kay McGee" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: RE: usna-net: Cars at school????? Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:00:07 PDT Some sponsor families allow mids to leave their cars at their homes. Kay McGee Mike '01 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: MCGEE Michael 01-13 MCGEE Kay ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA20214 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:23:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:33:46 -0500 From: woodmont@edge.net (Phillip L. Patterson) To: USNA-Net Subject: usna-net: John Paul Jones To all parents wishing to send out a bit of trivia regharding America's most famous naval officer. The first resting place for John Paul Jones, following the return of his remains to America, was the little room in Bancroft Hall which now serves as an office for one of the Catholic chaplains. I learned this from Fr. John Devine (great name for a chaplain, don't you think), who occupied the office until 1998. Apparently the crypt wasn't ready yet and so his tomb was assigned to this area until an appropriate location could be finished. There is a pretty little chapel adjacent to this office as well. Thanks for reading, GO NAVY! Phillip and Teresa Patterson Alan, '00/Free 19th, Trap and Skeet, Alpine Skiing Craig, '02/Tool Time 10th, Varsity Lacrosse Joseph, 03/Foxtrot, Beast Barracks, West Point (Beat Air Force) *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Craig E. 02-10 - Alan A. 00-19 PATTERSON Phillip and Teresa ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA21065 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 01:00:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Socalday@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 02:08:53 EDT Subject: usna-net: car & allowance To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Lynn, My mid was given a car at the end of his youngster year. I checked around with parking at the garage on Main St., the Loews Hotel on West. St., and the stadium. We decided on the stadium which was the most reasonable but a further distance from the yard. We purchased a car cover and lock for the car and I call and pay for 3 months at a time with my Visa Card. $60 for 3 months. Now he can park on the yard since he is a firstie. We also send $ weekly so that our mids can enjoy their wkends and eat out, take in a movie, pay for gas, travel, whatever. We really want our mids who are 3000 miles away to be able to take part in any wonderful opportunities that may come up with friends. When he was a youngster he took scuba lessons and became certified with a dive shop in Annapolis, our younger mid has been picked up by sponsor families that make a fast food stop so that the mids can buy food to take to their house. Oh, I almost forgot, car insurance was much cheaper through USAA for the mids and they are used to working with military and have an office right on Maryland Ave outside gate 3. Celeste Day Lance-00 1st Trevor-02 14th *** USNA-NET post by: DAY Trevor 02 Lance 00 DAY Jim and Celeste ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA18537 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 05:59:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:17:25 -0400 From: Some Cully To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: cars & parking I think that everyone of my sons friends parked their cars at their sponsors and caught rides from 1st class to those homes when they needed them or the sponsors even came to pick them up and bring them to their cars. Kathy Cully *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA25299 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:04:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "Norton Smiley" To: "usna net" Cc: "Nancy Patterson" Subject: Re: usna-net: 7/18/99YP in Boston Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:11:00 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Nancy, et al, Based upon my son's YP cruise two years ago, they are conducting exercises out there. They did the same thing that year. When I inquired of my son what was happening, he said they were doing various exercises with different mids switching off doing different jobs. All part of the training as part of the YP cruise. Norton Smiley Devin, '00/22nd Westport, CT -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Patterson To: Stanford ; usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Sunday, July 18, 1999 9:29 PM Subject: Re: usna-net: 7/18/99YP in Boston >According to the YP tracking site, the YP's on their way to Boston are still >on the North Shore of Martha's Vineyard. They looked to have made 20 or >more passes back and forth. Early this morning they had just started a >"zig-zag" pattern. I would have to say they are aiding in the search for >Kennedy's Piper. I cannot think of any other reason they would still be in >the same area. Those phone calls on Tuesday should be interesting. The >other half of the YP's are docked in NY and seeing the sites. >Nancy and Todd >*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* > Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net > (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri > > Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club >*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* > > >*** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy > >Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > >Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > > *** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA25686 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:11:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "usna net" References: <001001bed1e8$25f42e10$2da5a5ce@norton.evolve> Subject: Re: usna-net: 7/18/99YP in Boston Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:17:49 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Thanks Norton. So previous YP's have done the same movements near Boston. I am surprised they were allowed to go into that area with all of the Coast Guard boats out there. Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA26076 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:16:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Van Spiros" To: Subject: usna-net: '01 parking and auto insurance Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:58:30 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Sorry all. I had a senior moment. The '01 lottery parking was for the Naval Station (not hospital point). Also I have nagged our car insurance company and compared prices with USAA. It is VERY important to compare prices and car insurance requirements for your state and auto insurance company. We're in Massachusetts and our auto insurance company is adamant that our son must be added to our insurance when he's home and using the car and then an exclusion form must be submitted to remove him from our insurance when he's not home. I mentioned the info that has come across the USNA net and they won't budge from the stand. Also it turned out that USAA was going to be MORE expensive than our policy because our '01 is considered an "inexperienced driver", since he's been driving less than 5 years and only at the Academy for 2 years. The USAA insurance will be considerably less when he's a firstie. Comparing prices is important. Thanks for all the info, Carolyn Spiros Boston, MA *** USNA-NET post by: SPIROS Michael 01-30 SPIROS Van and Carolyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA29356 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:53:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Norton Smiley" To: "Nancy Patterson" , "usna net" Subject: Re: usna-net: 7/18/99YP in Boston Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:59:30 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Nancy, Interestingly, that is part of the training. There are always many pleasure craft in that area. Learning to navigate in traffic is a necessary skill the mids need to acquire. According to my son, that area and Annapolis are the best areas for learning to navigate in traffic. Norton -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Patterson To: usna net Date: Monday, July 19, 1999 9:25 AM Subject: Re: usna-net: 7/18/99YP in Boston >Thanks Norton. So previous YP's have done the same movements near Boston. >I am surprised they were allowed to go into that area with all of the Coast >Guard boats out there. >Nancy >*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* > Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net > (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri > > Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club >*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* > > >*** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy > >Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > >Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > > *** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA06659 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:20:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" To: , "usna-net @navy-usna.org" References: <37930945.7CCE@warwick.net> Subject: Re: usna-net: cars & parking Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:17:45 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 The Navy yard has parking for 2nd Class cars and there is military shuttle transportation to/from the yard. Gregg ----- Original Message ----- From: Some Cully To: usna-net @navy-usna.org Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 7:17 AM Subject: usna-net: cars & parking I think that everyone of my sons friends parked their cars at their sponsors and caught rides from 1st class to those homes when they needed them or the sponsors even came to pick them up and bring them to their cars. Kathy Cully *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen *** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA13564 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:41:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "McFadden" To: Subject: usna-net: question on schedules Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:49:05 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hello everyone, I understand that the academic year starts August 25. Reform the brigade is 8/20-24. What happens during the "reform the brigade"? Is Parents Weekend the "official end" of plebe summer? Does anyone know the activities/schedules of the plebes from after parents weekend until the academic year starts? Renee McFadden, Redmond, WA (Ramin E/09) *** USNA-NET post by: MCFADDEN Ramin 03 MCFADDEN Bruce and Renee ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA16512 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:30:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Amysoule@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:38:08 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: PHOTO CD's.... To: jsandi@mail.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Dear Sandi, et. al, There is another issue to consider. It is not legal to put anyone's photo on the web or in another publication without a signed release form from the photographer, who in turn must have release forms from the subjects. This can get sticky. Amy Soule *** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA16991 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:45:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Deborah752@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:54:29 EDT Subject: usna-net: NEW MEMBER To: usna-net@navy-usna.org HI, MY NAME IS DEBBIE, I HAVE A SON MICHAEL '03 HE'S IN COMPANY L PLATOON 21. WE ARE FROM COLUMBUS, OH AND BELONG TO THE CENTRAL OHIO PARENTS GROUP. MICHAEL IS TRYING OUT FOR FOOTBALL. HE LIKES THE COACHES A LOT. WE RECEIVED OUR 1ST PHONE CALL YESTERDAY AND HE SOUNDED OK. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO PARENTS WEEKEND. IF ANYONE IS FROM THE 21ST PLATOON I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. DEBBIE *** USNA-NET post by: MARKS Michael R 03-L MARKS Deborah and Buddy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA17649 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:05:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Babs217@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:13:18 EDT Subject: usna-net: New member Plebe-Net To: usna-net@navy-usna.org CC: Babs217@aol.com Hi! My name is Babs Kinsley. I have a daughter, Amanda, who is a plebe. We live in Ellicott City, MD. I am starved for info about the plebes. I have only received two letters - the last one dated July 6. I did receive a phone call yesterday, but I swear it lasted only 30 seconds not five minutes. My daughter is in G Company, Platoon 14. Any info from any Company or Platoon would be appreciated. Thanks, Babs Kinsley *** USNA-NET post by: KINSLEY Amanda L 03-14 KINSLEY Babs ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA18910 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:45:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Deborah752@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:53:20 EDT Subject: usna-net: 1999-2000 calendar To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi, does anyone know where I can find the event schedule for the upcoming accademic year. thank you. Debbie L/21 Columbus,OH *** USNA-NET post by: MARKS Michael R 03-L MARKS Deborah and Buddy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA20760 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:30:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Norton Smiley" To: "usna net" Subject: Re: usna-net: question on schedules Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:35:59 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Renee et al, While PPW is a ceremonial; end to Plebe summer, I recall my son complaining that many of the physical exercises/torment continued. The plebes also spend a lot of time practicing parades to get used to patterns used by the integrated companies. They also move into their AC year rooms, get books, computers, more haircuts, etc. Finally, they integrate with the upper classmen but are still subjected to many of the plebe summer type activities and harassment not only by detailers, but also by the upper classmen. This is also a time of retesting if necessary for academics. The major difference between plebe summer and the reformed brigade is the start of classes which replaces some, but not all, of the physical and military activities. Norton Smiley Devin, '00/22nd Westport, CT -----Original Message----- From: McFadden To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Monday, July 19, 1999 1:01 PM Subject: usna-net: question on schedules >Hello everyone, I understand that the academic year starts August 25. >Reform the brigade is 8/20-24. What happens during the "reform the >brigade"? Is Parents Weekend the "official end" of plebe summer? Does >anyone know the activities/schedules of the plebes from after parents >weekend until the academic year starts? >Renee McFadden, Redmond, WA >(Ramin E/09) > > > > >*** USNA-NET post by: MCFADDEN Ramin 03 MCFADDEN Bruce and Renee > >Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > >Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > > > *** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA21553 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:54:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [192.246.37.174] From: "George Dodge" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: 1999-2000 calendar Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 16:03:40 EDT Deborah, The calendar can be found at http://www.nadn.navy.mil/AcDean/Calendars/1999-00.html GO NAVY - BEAT ARMY George Dodge Damien '03/6 Manassas, VA >From: Deborah752@aol.com >To: usna-net@navy-usna.org >Subject: usna-net: 1999-2000 calendar >Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:53:20 EDT > >Hi, does anyone know where I can find the event schedule for the upcoming >accademic year. >thank you. >Debbie >L/21 >Columbus,OH > >*** USNA-NET post by: MARKS Michael R 03-L MARKS Deborah and Buddy > > >Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > >Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: DODGE Damien A 03-C DODGE George and Barbara ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA22187 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:07:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Amysoule@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 16:14:36 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: 1999-2000 calendar To: Deborah752@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Dear Debbie, Try this URL: http://www.nadn.navy.mil/AcDean/Calendars/1999-00.html It should lead you to the current AC year schedule, which is on the Naval Academy Website. It includes football games, breaks, etc. Amy *** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA22363 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:14:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Kim Fricks To: "'usna-net@navy-usna.org'" Subject: usna-net: NEW MEMBER Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:19:23 +0100 Hello, my name is Kim. My brother Donnie Fricks is in Platoon 12 and in the Class of 2003. We are from Houston, TX. We belong to the SE Parents Club. My "little" brother is trying out for football. He played last year at NAPS. My parents are going to Parents weekend. He is really modest in what he likes to tell us, so if anybody is from Platoon 12, our family would love to get in touch with you! Kim *** USNA-NET post by: FRICKS Donnie M 03-12 FRICKS Kim ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA03307 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:14:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:21:29 -0500 From: woodmont@edge.net (Phillip L. Patterson) To: susy tuthill , USNA-Net Subject: usna-net: Missed Phone Calls - Your son is right, "IT" HAPPENS ! We missed Alan's first call; it was only three days early but that's close enough for Gov't work. There were no phone call schedules, list servers etc., just his initial post card mailed the first night of plebe summer (it had the day and time of the first call cleaarly printed at the top). My secretary took the call, at 14:30 on a Wednesday of all times (scheduled for following Saturday), asked a few good questions and promised she would relay the messages. To make matters worse, after receiving another call two weeks later (it was to be our only plebe summer call, and only Teresa was at home), we left for an extensive college "lookover" and family vacation. As the trip would end with PPW in Annapolis, we decided to EXPRESS MAIL an entire network of phone numbers, including cell phone, with a schedule and our itinerary,etc. Welllll!!! the nations finest "pony express" delivered our communication on Thursday afternoon, the day before Parents Weekend began. I mean, hey, it only took 20 days, a record "carry". Alan informed us that, due to the tardy arrival, the only remaining phone numbers on the list were our cell and the AnnapolisWyndam Hotel and he could get no phone privileges that evening. It seems that in 1996, there were still several areas of New England (Maine in particular) where we had little or no cell phone service and without the phone list, Alan had no hope of tracking us down. We never thought to send a backup message with a duplicate list. After all, I had a receipt for my $10.75 and surely for $10.75, my letter would survive all manner of distractions. You know the drill - mail truck highjackings, strafing by enemy aircraft, mean yard dogs with a personal vendetta against the postal service and the like. Oh well, all's well that ends well, we had a great view of our son at PEP, thoroughly enjoyed the weekend and even stayed behind to watch the combat course competition at Hospital Point (the mids paddle assault rafts up the Severn River and run an obstacle course with the rafts above their heads). I almost forgot, Alan missed a "rate" Sunday morning of PPW. It cost him ONE HUNDRED, NINETY pushups before he could be excused for liberty. Following lunch, our very sore plebe spent the afternoon at the hotel hot tub. He didn't complain and firmly stated that the required information was so basic that a second day plebe would not have missed it. This has now become a family joke, demanding pushups before Sunday Brunch during holidays. So parents, "keep the faith". Yes Virginia, like Santa Claus, there is a real Plebe Parents Weekend, only three and one half weeks away, and the level of Parent Pride will be AWESOME, "jest you wait an' see" (Southern for "No Lie") GO NAVY! BEAT AIR FORCE! (gotta be real careful of my Army "cuts", Joey just wrote me that he can disassemble an reassemble "Dixie", his M-16, in less than 2.5 minutes) Phillip Patterson, President, Middle TN Parents Assn., National Co-Chairman, USNA Brigade Wellfare Fund for Class '02 Alan, '00/Free 19th, Trap and Skeet Craig, '02/Tool Time 10th, Varsity Lacrosse Joseph, '03/Foxtrot, Beast Barracks, West Point (you know, that grey prison up on the Hudson River) *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Craig E. 02-10 - Alan A. 00-19 PATTERSON Phillip and Teresa ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA04121 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:33:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:44:17 -0500 From: woodmont@edge.net (Phillip L. Patterson) To: Nancy Aubel , Karen Stuart , USNA-Net Subject: usna-net: Honor Concept and Naval "Worth" " Bravo" to these Gentle Ladies who espouse the high ideals. Please read and read again some of the truly fine points concerning USNA and post-USNA life. Two Great letters! Phillip and Teresa Patterson, Alan, '00/Free 19th Craig, '02/Tool Time 10th Joseph, '03, Foxtrot, Beast Barracks, West Point, (Duty, HONOR, Country - same there also) *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Craig E. 02-10 - Alan A. 00-19 PATTERSON Phillip and Teresa ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA04643 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:52:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" , "" Subject: usna-net: WP.ORG and Fund Raising... Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 02:01:48 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To All... This evening, Jack Price (WP.ORG Advisor) sent a message to everyone via the CORPS Listserver at West Point regarding Fund Raising. This will explain the message for the newcomers and refresh the memory of the long term members. (If you want - skip to the ****Read This**** part below.) USNA-Net, USNA-Plebe and USNA-ClubNet are hosted (at no charge to members) by WP.ORG, Inc. The day to day functions are performed in Austin, TX by ditus Bolanos, West Point Grad (who was not commissioned due to a late Firstie Year accident that left him unable to serve). ditus is a Computer Wizard and an exceptionally dedicated WP Grad. Through his genius and dedication to all things Military, WP.ORG was born about five years ago. WP.ORG supports 110 or so different lists for WP graduates, staff and PARENTS. In June of last year, ditus and the Board of Advisors extended their support to USNA Parents. We formed USNA-Net with Dolf Biel (WP Grad) as our Moderator. Dolf was also Moderating the WP Parents Lists and had his hands full. I was recruited to take over and have been in charge of the USNA lists ever since. I am 100% NAVY. Served 6 years enlisted ('68 - '74) with ComFairWingThree, Brunswick, ME. P3's - ASW. But I digress. WP.ORG supports its financial needs through donations from its members. It takes a more than a few dollars to run the computers (Plural) in Austin and rent T1 Internet access to allow the Listservers to function plus support the Websites, etc. Therefore, the need to a periodic fund raiser. Jack Price is a tremendous fellow but he tends to write in "WP-speak" (just like USNA-speak but with a New York accent.) In a nutshell, what he was trying to tell you is that they're asking for donations from members of ALL the lists. USNA members are included in this list of potential donors. **************** PLEASE READ THIS ********************** Donations are ABSOLUTELY VOLUNTARY!!! You won't be hounded (too much) to respond. You will NOT be asked to leave the list, if you do not send a donation. But if you can send in a small donation, please do. The service received is invaluable. Even a few dollars would be appreciated. I like to think of this as the Internet equivalent of a PBS Fund Raising Drive. If you send in your donation, you get to watch another year of PBS. If you don't, you still get to watch. If you can, please be generous. If you can't, we all understand what it's like to pinch pennies for Care Packages and those long distance trips to the Yard. Enough said. If you have questions, contact me directly at mzets@mail.com. PLEASE do not respond via our lists. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA09012 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:16:57 -0500 (CDT) From: "Van Spiros" To: Subject: usna-net: flights home Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:36:53 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Hi all! Many of you are starting to make travel plans. I would recommend you encourage your mid to carry on luggage whenever possible!! I want to make you aware of an airline incident that occured to my son last Friday on his way back from Annapolis. Judging from the airline's comments, this may occur more and more. Returning from the sub component of protramid, he checked into BWI last Friday evening in full military uniform with plenty of time prior to flight departure and checked in his padlocked green seabag and blue suitbag with USNA emblem, (containing all of his uniforms for the past 7 weeks of 2nd class activities in Thailand, Japan, Quantico, Pensacola, and King's Bay) . He arrived at the Manchester NH airport (an hour from our home). His bags were the only bags not to arrive!! No one was able to trace or figure out where the bags were and hoped they would arrive on the last flight of the day. They did arrive but without padlock and with seabag poorly and improperly put back together. Fortunately none of his gear was missing. It seems his bags were chosen for a spot security check!! It was explained that because of past terrorist threats, they suspect military looking gear more and more?? Our son was very upset that military personnel would be suspected of terrorism!! And because of what might have happened if he were enroute to a deployment and not coming home. Remember, they are ingrained with--No excuses!! The airline customer service people were not sympathetic or understanding of his concern and just kept saying that they would have sent his luggage to him some how. And that he of all people, should understand their concern for safety. He couldn't get them to understand his concerns. The moral of this story is CARRY on your gear whenever possible!! On another note, he would highly recommend NTT during youngster summer and Protramid during 2nd class summer as great ways to experience a variety of Navy options. During this summer, he spent 4 weeks in the Far East on an amphibious assault ship that carries Marines; 1 week with the Marines in Quantico; 1 week with the Navy aviators near Pensacola, and 1 week with the subs out of King's Bay GA and Mayport FL. Most importantly, he had a chance to speak with Academy grads, enlisted, and officers about potential future options. Go Navy!! Best wishes and prayers to all!! Carolyn Spiros Boston, MA *** USNA-NET post by: SPIROS Michael 01-30 SPIROS Van and Carolyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA15795 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:39:59 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robin & Barbara Goffrier" To: "Parent Net USNA" References: <379388C8.A06765EE@edge.net> Subject: usna-net: It does get better! Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:48:13 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Thanks Sandi for sharing some of the great positives about sticking with life at USNA. Yes, plebe summer and ac year are very difficult, but the summers sure are out of the ordinary. Adam was home last weekend as Naval Air Station Whidbey Island (Washington) where he is doing his aviation cruise is within driving distance of our home. He went to a birthday party for one of his high school buddies and saw many of his high school friends. They were in awe of the things he has gotten to do this summer. They were particularly impressed with the fact that he got to "invade Greece" with the 26th Marine Expeditionary Force. They were also amazed that he actually got to fly and "drive" some of the Navy's big "toys." He also loves to remind them (tongue in cheek, of course) that they need to work particularly hard at their summer jobs since not only do they have to help pay for their own educations, but his as well. :-) Barbara Goffrier, Adam '00, 4th Co Portland, Or *** USNA-NET post by: GOFFRIER John 00 GOFFRIER ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA26307 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:39:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:44:54 -0400 From: Allen Liles To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: airline tickets One option the mids have for air travel: See the travel agent in Bancroft Hall. Our son usually booked his own tickets, once he determined his exit date post exams. Robin Liles Charles, '02 NC *** USNA-NET post by: LILES Charles A 02-26 LILES Allen and Robin ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA06502 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:28:34 -0500 (CDT) From: USNADAD03@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:33:17 EDT Subject: usna-net: Unscribe ME To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Mike Please unscribe me, you were right. I will keep only plebe page. Thanks Paul Napierkowski *** USNA-NET post by: NAPIERKOWSKI Christopher 03 NAPIERKOWSKI Paul ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA16354 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:18:55 -0500 (CDT) From: KKStuart@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:27:14 EDT Subject: usna-net: Rules & Regs for Plebes to live by To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Good on those parents who stand by the rules & regulations of the Yard. Not only are our plebes faced with the temptation during their coming Mid years, but afterwards in the real Fleet of the Navy. The only problem with breaking a rule or being outside "the box" in the real Fleet is that there is little room for error. What if the Mid is out of "the box" during a flight in an FA-18 or in a foreign country while being deployed or while standing watch? Their judgement is important not only to their personal well-being, but also those they work with and the million dollar equipment they are trained to run. These young boys will be put in charge of hundreds of lives, millions of dollars of sophisticated technology & weapons. The Academy is a training ground, not only for their education, but also for their commitment to themselves, others and this organization called the Navy. Unfortunately, the last few years have seen a decomposition of moral ethics among all students, (I teach) including those that have attended the Academy, thus the scandals of cheating, stealing, etc. It is why the Academy had to establish an Ethics dept. which was headed up by a friend of ours. I'm not sure they still have this in place, but it was sorely needed. Aristotle once wrote that human beings are political beings, and that any organization's success depends directly on the character of those good citizens in that organization. A good citizen being described as one who lives up to his duties by being loyal, taking responsibility, working hard and having self-discipline. He goes on to say that the salvation of the community is the responsibility of all. (paraphrased) They have now entered into this Naval community. It's success depends on them. Honor and integrity are sorely lacking today among many people. I have always told my children that it is the one thing that no man can ever take away. Let's encourage honor in our Plebes & have them strive for honor in all their endeavors at the Yard, not just in some. KK *** USNA-NET post by: STUART Christopher 03-14 STUART Karen K. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA19298 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:44:53 -0500 (CDT) From: NGlasgow2@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:52:21 EDT Subject: usna-net: ARMY NAVY FOOTBALL TICKETS To: USNA-NET@navy-usna.org We are seeking a pair of tickets to the Army Navy game. Our son is a youngster and we had no idea that they had to be purchased this far out in advance! Please respond if you know of any through your local club or otherwise. Norma Glasgow Tripp Glasgow '02 (7th Co.) *** USNA-NET post by: GLASGOW Richard 02-7 GLASGOW Norma ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA01216 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:52:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:11:15 -0400 From: Some Cully To: NGlasgow2@aol.com CC: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: usna-net: ARMY NAVY FOOTBALL TICKETS References: There are many, many people in the same boat, so to speak! All the Clubs are looking for extra tickets. As pres. of our Club, I've been contacting the pres. of the other Clubs - they are inundated with requests from their own club members and can't even help their own. USNA sent an e-mail posting to all the Club Presidents and advised to tell parents to call West Point ticket offc. 914-446-4996 but as of today, only 'obstructed view' tickets are available - a wait list is optionable - but you take a chance waiting until 9/21 to hear. Veterans Stadium has tickets for the general public going on sale in late August - that is your best bet as of now. USNA is trying to buy some from them but is not successful as yet. I've gone the last 4 yrs. and ordered them in early July - this year the tickets sold out on June 30th - their earliest sell out date yet because of the 100th Anniversary match-up and special festivities. I have always seen people outside trying to sell their extra tickets (not scalping) I would have taken my chance on doing that this year but our brother-in-law, a West Point grad ordered ours with his last week. We just have to sit deep in enemy territory. Maybe you have a special contact in the Army as well who can help you? Good Luck, Kathy Cully *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA03544 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:38:06 -0500 (CDT) From: PortCD@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:46:17 EDT Subject: usna-net: Phone call To: usna-net@@navy-usna.org Hi all, I feel just like a plebe parent all over again getting a phone call from my plebe, except that now my son is a 2/C on his summer cruise crossing the Atlantic on the USS Inchon. I had not talked to him since June 25 (except through email--mids do have an email address on the ships that they are assigned to during the summer) until last night when he called. I must tell you that the phone call was the strangest I have ever encountered as it was a ship to shore call. Since I am not a world traveler, I had never experienced a call were you speak into the phone and have to wait for a response because of a short pause which I assume is due to radio signal transfer. What a fun call that was. Jacob has enjoyed his experiences this summer and looks forward to being home, just as I look forward to having him home (3 more days). One of things that Jacob has done is to try and experience as many aspects of his opportunities as possible and thus the phone call. Since the computers were tied up with others trying to communicate with their loved ones, he decided to try a phone call. This is his first experience with overseas travel, and I am delighted that he wants to gain experience in any way he can....not to mention the excitement and delight of getting to hear his voice. Not only is my mid getting a wonderful education academically at the Academy, but also through his summer activities traveling with the Navy as well. I'm truly looking forward to hearing more about his summer adventures. I enjoy reading about your mids...plebes as well as upperclassmen. Thank you Mike and Sandi for this site and to all of you who write so eloquently. May you all have smooth sailing ahead. Cathy Portaro, Durham, NC Jacob '01/01 *** USNA-NET post by: PORTARO Jacob Daniel 01-1 PROTARO Dan and Cathy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA04241 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:58:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Jhb317@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:05:23 EDT Subject: usna-net: Thanksgiving Plans To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello, I just made flight reservations for my mid for Thanksgiving. I was surprised to find out the lower price fares were already sold out. Carol Bringhurst 02/19 Josh Lightweight Crew TX *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA13801 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:57:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Stephen C. Sims" To: "Navy List Serv" Subject: usna-net: 800 numbers vs. calling cards Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:51:19 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01BED36F.58B8F6E0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BED36F.58B8F6E0 charset="iso-8859-1" Hello. As a neophite, I have been reading the postings with great = interest and making many notes. One of the items which has been discussed off and on was the benefits of = an 800 number for these limited calls home. I sent my son off with a = zillion minutes of prepaid calling cards plus all the ones his friends = gave him. I have researched the 800 number issue here locally and my = question is from those with experience. The best that I can find is from a company that represents the Sprint = Network. He will sell me an 800 number for $3.00 a month plus $0.089 per = minute, state to state calls only, billed in 6 second increments. Not = knowing a thing about the phone business other than I have one, I have = nothing to compare to. Any one out there that can give me some advice? Go NAVY!!! Steve and Mary Sims=20 Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Chandler 03/CO 18 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BED36F.58B8F6E0 charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello. As a neophite, I have been reading the postings with great = interest=20 and making many notes.

One of the items which has been discussed off and on was the benefits = of an=20 800 number for these limited calls home. I sent my son off with a = zillion=20 minutes of prepaid calling cards plus all the ones his friends gave him. = I have=20 researched the 800 number issue here locally and my question is from = those with=20 experience.

The best that I can find is from a company that represents the Sprint = Network. He will sell me an 800 number for $3.00 a month plus $0.089 per = minute,=20 state to state calls only, billed in 6 second increments. Not knowing a = thing=20 about the phone business other than I have one, I have nothing to = compare=20 to.

Any one out there that can give me some advice?

Go NAVY!!!

Steve and Mary Sims

Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

Chandler 03/CO 18

------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BED36F.58B8F6E0-- *** USNA-NET post by: SIMS Stephen C 03-I SIMS Mary and Steve ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA16405 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:34:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:41:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: "Stephen C. Sims" cc: Navy List Serv Subject: Re: usna-net: 800 numbers vs. calling cards REPLY In-Reply-To: <000d01bed399$41fb5540$44690418@CX16329-A.okcne1.ok.home.com> My plan is with Odessey, the tv station. I pay $0.10/ minute 7/24/52. I have a free 800# and I am not certain, but I think the calls to me on 800 is about 25 cents a minute. Even ATT has a better plan than the one you researched. Plus, some of my money goes towards one of my favorite shows on their family friendly channel. I have no phone # on my bill, but if you dial 800info they willgive it to you. The company's name: Network international 1300 Piccard Drive Suite 202 Rockville MD 20850 I also know of a family friendly (no smutt anywhere in the) service. Hope I have helped. Good luck :-) peace and hugs.......Jo Oliver John '97 Long Island NY *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA01130 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:23:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Smcchic72@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:31:33 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: 800 numbers vs. calling cards To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Steve & Mary Sims and all others who are interested: I may be wrong about this but I believe that the big three (AT&T, Sprint, & MCI) all have network plans with which you can get an 800 number at ten cents/minute. We got ours with AT&T and for $9.95/month, have an 800 number, calling card (helps for calling other numbers other then home when you are not home), long distance from our home phone anytime of day or night and long distance on our cell phones all for ten cents/minute. With two daughters in college in different parts of the country and my husband traveling in the Navy, that was the most economical for us. My advice is to check with whomever you have for your long distance provider and see what kind of package deal they can offer you, rather then just asking for an 800 number. It has proved to save us a lot of money in the long run. Hope this helps. Sherry Samar Jordan 03/16 *** USNA-NET post by: SAMAR Jordan L 03 SAMAR Jack and Sherry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA18373 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:12:12 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [198.211.18.150] From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe & usna-net Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:21:19 EDT Kathie & All, I always tried to live up to a goal of "learning one new thing everyday". With the help of everyone on plebe-net & usna-net this past 10 days I have made up for those previous days I missed my goal and I now have loads of credit. :-) Thanks for all your candor, sincerity and humor. Know I know why the USNA experience is like no other both for our Mid's and their parents. May every day be a great Navy Day! Anne & Dennis Kolb Matt 03 Delta 07 long Isalnd, NY ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Esher Family" To: Subject: usna-plebe: Printers, Calculators and YOU Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:09:03 -0500 Hi, I have been reading with great vim and vigor all the wonderful emails and scrutinizing all the great pictures. This camaraderie by the parents far surpasses anything I could have ever imagined! This is the most wonderful, self-assuring experience I have ever experienced. Since this is the way of the parents, I can imagine what it is for our plebes. No wonder Leslie says everyone is AWESOME. Individuals willing to share their pictures, time, ideas, words of encouragement and advise have been invaluable to me. In fact, Leslie said, "Mom you can stop sending food, we have so much we cannot possibly eat it all." So, I turned this week to your other pieces of advise-scissors, tape, shout wipes, etc... Thanks to all the contributors to this group for making this such a wonderful experience, I feel like I have an extended family. I feel like the Navy has been doing all this for a lot longer than I have been a parent, and their ways are well proven, tried and true. Wanted to pass this on to all of you, I called the Mid Store today. A very nice young man was extremely helpful and informative. He said that they will be sending a mailer out to us within the week that has a selection of some 11 printers, and two TI calculators to pick from. They will have FAX, Phone, and mail order available for these items. You can pick out what you want, pay and have your plebe pick it up at their "leisure". This will definitely save you from the long lines at PPW and give you more time together. And, just a reminder that the money generated by the store goes back into the academy. GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY! Kathie Esher Waveland, MS Leslie 03/10 *** USNA-PLEBE post by: ESHER Leslie Ann 03-10 ESHER Robert and Kathie _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: KOLB Matthew V 03-D KOLB Anne and Dennis ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA18427 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:13:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [198.211.18.150] From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Out of our hands Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:22:32 EDT Ruth & Jean and All, I guess both our sons/daughters and their parents have developed an increase in our personal courage(or is it faith). Our current Mids for beginning this difficult process (regardless of their personal outcome) and the graduates, now officers serving in the Marines or Navy. And for parents learning for the first real time to let go. I would like to share with everyone what my wife has reminded me of since our son became a teenager: "Learn to hold on with open arms". I believe this short phrase says it all and I am still learning. Dennis Kolb Matt 03 Delta 07 Long Island, NY ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Gene & Ruth" To: Subject: usna-plebe: Out of our hands Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:18:27 -0400 Our daughter is a plebe this year and our son was USNA '95, our other son is enlisted. I want to share with you that we had very little information when our son started at the Academy and everything was not smooth sailing over the 4 years. When our son was born God gifted us with His child entrusting us with his care. On I -Day, sitting in my folding chair in T- court , waiting for the oath ceremony to begin, I gave our son back to His heavenly Father more completely than I ever thought possible. The highest authority - our very creator is holding our children in His hands.As both my sons prepare to deploy this Sept. (in the same battle group) it gives me great peace to know the One who loves them more than I ever could,who numbered the very hairs on their heads, is in charge of them, spiritually and physically. I am not saying that I never have a concern or miss them any less. I am saying we cannot control this situation that our wonderful children find themselves in and that fact need not cause us concern. After all - when our sons and daughters took that first solo drive in the family car, we could control their safe return , but it was God's providence that brought them home safely. Join me in prayer for our plebes - those with power and authority over them - their new friends- the Naval Academy - and the armed forces. *** USNA-PLEBE post by: LASTFOGEL Jennifer L 03 LASTFOGEL Ruth and Gene _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: KOLB Matthew V 03-D KOLB Anne and Dennis ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA22037 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:22:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:36:24 -0700 From: Susan Lemerande To: Naval Academy Parents Subject: usna-net: SPEAKING OF THANKSGIVING ... California is too far to go for the Thanksgiving break so Ted will most likely be going to Cleveland to spend time with my cousin and his family. Any chance anyone will be driving from the Academy to Cleveland, or thereabouts, and willing to take along a passenger who will gladly share the cost of fuel? If interested, please reply to me or to Ted at m013690@nadn.navy.mil (but he won't be back at his computer till 8/20). Thanks! Susan :-) -- A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that is in your heart, chaff and grain together, knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, keep only what is worth keeping, and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. ----- Susan Lemerande lemonade@ivic.net *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA22207 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:30:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:44:19 -0700 From: Susan Lemerande To: "Stephen C. Sims" CC: Navy List Serv Subject: Re: usna-net: 800 numbers vs. calling cards References: <000d01bed399$41fb5540$44690418@CX16329-A.okcne1.ok.home.com> I got a toll-free number in May through Sprint and I confess I do not know every last detail about it but my first bill (through one complete cycle, to be fair) saved me about $40 for the month which is pretty good for me. My bill (including 2 phone lines) is around $130 a month with quite a bit of long distance. This last bill made me happy. Susan -- A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that is in your heart, chaff and grain together, knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, keep only what is worth keeping, and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. ----- Susan Lemerande lemonade@ivic.net *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA03459 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:09:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "McFadden" To: Subject: usna-net: thoughts of a mom Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:16:55 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 BJBBurns wrote an incredibly wise and moving piece about parents trying to glimpse their kids and the repercussions of that. Along that line, and I do hope this subject will start winding down, I think a lot of parents are over-reacting. Yes, our sons/daughters are now out of our care and in the hands of the Academy. Yes, we miss them a lot. However, let's keep in mind that this IS where they wanted to be and we as parents worked very hard in our support of them to get them THERE! To walk around trying to glimpse plebes or even as some parents indicated, pretty much "sneaking" around seems silly. We have been asked very nicely by the folks in charge of our kids to stay out. If we entrust our children to them in every other way, why do some parents insist on those glimpses? Many of us have had our kids gone for 4-5 weeks or more at a time during summer camp, etc.. Some parents are now acting like they can't get thru these summer weeks without at least these glimpses. This is incredibly selfish on the parents part. As BJBBurns wrote--the plebes DO suffer repercussions. Is it worth it, just for those glimpses? Not only your plebe is distracted, but the rest are too. If they see parents, they might be tempted to look for their own, or even worry their parents may be sneaking. I think it's more reassuring for our plebes if we let them know that yes we love them, we think of them (show them by the cards you mail daily) but let them know you are doing OK. We need the reassurance they're ok, they need to know the same about us. As hard as it is, we need to let them fly out of the nest. My husband and I look forward to our next phone call, we can't wait for the daily mail, we think of our son and pray for his safety, but if we lived across the street from the academy I can say with all honesty that I would stay away out of my love for my son and respect for what he and the other young people there are doing-- Renee McFadden *** USNA-NET post by: MCFADDEN Ramin 03 MCFADDEN Bruce and Renee ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA04539 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:42:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Armynavyma@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:50:40 EDT Subject: usna-net: Hello! To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Just wanted to say hello from Las Vegas, Nevada! We have a "prior" Mid-Ryan Curry 26....2003. We have been through this before when he left home/college for Parris Island! His brother is now going through Beast Barracks at West Point so..... go Navy? go Army? I enjoy the postings and will keep in touch! Nadine Underhill *** USNA-NET post by: CURRY Ryan K 03 UNDERHILL Bill and Nadine ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA05199 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:02:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:30:41 +0000 Subject: usna-net: dances and driving From: David Major To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I have two questions: Is there a dance in October that Plebes can have dates for? David's sister, age 27, will be in the Baltimore area more than we will during the AC year. Will he be able to ride in a car with her? Thank you for all the info. Our son seems to be doing fine has three roommates, one from FLA. one from New Orleans and one from Annapolis, he described them as a team so the system seems to be working. Bill and Deanna Major Major, David 03-08 *** USNA-NET post by: MAJOR David William 03 MAJOR Bill and Deanna ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA06102 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:33:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:41:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: McFadden cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: thoughts of a mom REPLY In-Reply-To: <000501bed466$00662740$20c82599@default> Right On !!!!! I can appreciate the empty nest syndrome. However, everyone reacts diferently to the same situation. peace and hugs.....Jo Oliver John '97 Long Island NY *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA07815 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:44:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Jhb317@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:53:15 EDT Subject: usna-net: Thanksgiving To: usna-net@navy-usna.org In years past the Academy has shortened classes on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving and they are finished by noon. Usually the ones who are not going home or live in the area have watch. There is a mass exodus to BWI on that day and lots of ways to get to the airport. I believe there is a shuttle for $19 to BWI. I have booked the 4pm flight in the past and Josh had plenty of time to get there. He did miss that flight on graduation day, because of the traffic jams getting out of the academy. I do not think that will be a problem. Any suggestions from upper-class parents? Carol Bringhurst 02/19 Josh Lightweight Crew TX *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA25128 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:21:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Jarstokes@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:29:54 EDT Subject: usna-net: Thanksgiving Holiday & Other Travel To: usna-net@navy-usna.org CC: ifourgotit@yahoo.com To Christine and All, The DC airport (Reagan Natl. Airport) is about 45-50 miles from the Academy, approx. a 60-75 min drive in normal traffic. However, the wed. before Thxgiving is horrendous and far from normal. In fact the tie-ups to and at the airport have been starting on Tuesdays in recent years. We are one of the lucky parents (altho trying to survive Plebe Summer, it doesn't make a difference) who live in MD (DC suburbs) about 35-40 miles away and less than an hour's drive from the Academy. So what I'm trying to say is, since our daughter is lucky enough not to have to fly home during any of the vacation or holiday leave times, we would like to make the blanket offer to you or any other parents whose Mid needs a ride or connection the airport, train, bus station - whatever. We realize how lucky and blessed we are to be so close and can only offer any assistance we can to you other parents who have the added burdens (financial and emotional) of travelling details to worry about.; especially in a time of (God forbid) any emergencies. So please call, write, e-mail us. We'd be more than happy to help in getting your sons and daughters home to you -- whenever. It would be an honor and a privilege. While we do not live within the 22mi. range for sponsorship or liberties, your Mids are also welcome at our home...anytime they are allowed! Randy and Richard Stokes Ft. Washington, MD parents of Amy 03/2 (Alpha) *** USNA-NET post by: STOKES Amy Elizabeth 03-2 STOKES Richard and Randy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA25514 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:36:18 -0500 (CDT) From: MTBLEAU@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:45:15 EDT Subject: usna-net: Mids seen in Boston !! To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Fellow Parents, This past Wednesday evening, at the Red Sox / Orioles game at Fenway Park, I was delighted to see white uniforms of Navy Midshipmen among the crowds ! I had heard they were coming to Boston on the YP cruises, but had not expected to run some of our fine young men and women. Of course I tried to say hello and "Go Navy" to them all. I was wearing my Navy issue sweatshirt, so they could see I was "connected" !! (my son Zach , 25 CO). I did not get all the names, but they were youngsters who hailed from California, Tennessee, and New York originally (before USNA !) I looked for 1C Josh Powers, but unfortunately did not see him if he was there. ( His dad, Brad Powers told me he would be coming to Boston for these cruises) I watched as they donned their covers and saluted the flag during the National Anthem.. I was so proud. Later the cameramen spotted them, and put them on the big screen while the organist played "Anchors Aweigh". It was great !! After the music, the whole crowd applauded them (30,000 people) The mids enjoyed the recognition, and they waved to the cameras. They all seemd happy and relaxed. Well, just thought I give you this one glimpse.. of Boston welcoming our Mids ! Too bad the Red Sox lost 6-1 . Carol M *** USNA-NET post by: FARRAR Zachary 00 MONTBLEAU Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA25716 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:44:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:58:38 -0700 From: Susan Lemerande To: McFadden CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: thoughts of a mom References: <000501bed466$00662740$20c82599@default> It simply becomes time to "love them from afar" as difficult as that may be. Send a load of mail, mushy cards, silly e-mail and e-greetings, cookies, overnight a batch of brownies (use a disposable foil pan, don't cut them, just send along a plastic knife -- it works!) and absolutely send pics, including their pets. They'll get the hint and no repercussions from the upperclass. Susan :-) Ted '01 17 Varsity Lacrosse -- A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that is in your heart, chaff and grain together, knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, keep only what is worth keeping, and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. ----- Susan Lemerande lemonade@ivic.net *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA18172 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:33:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:39:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: Jarstokes@aol.com cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org, ifourgotit@yahoo.com Subject: Re: usna-net: Thanksgiving Holiday & Other Travel REPLY In-Reply-To: <8416f44c.24c91182@aol.com> You both are very kind in offering your assistance to the needy whose child is at the USNA. Many people think that all are wealthy people. Unfortunately, when my son was commissioned, there were parents who were unable to attend the crowning of a great achievement due to finances. Had I known sooner, I would have taken a collection to aid at least one parent to participate in a once in a lifetime experience. I was on SSD at the time and I asked the LORD to help me and I received a large amount of back money which I usedfor that week. I would have sold jewelry to attend. We are placed on this earth, and some with wealth, to help one another. We are a BIG family and I suggest donations from us to help the less fortunate attend commissioning week or at least the commissioning day itself. I sure would like feedback on sharing what has been given to us. peace and hugs........Jo Oliver John '97 Long Island NY *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA03179 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:31:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: recent posting... Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:39:40 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... I just spoke with Mike on the phone and he asked me to send this short message. A recent posting asked for a "call to action" concerning collecting money. THIS IS AGAINST THE RULES OF OUR LISTSERVER. Please be advised that Mike will send a general post to the net to clarify this subject this evening. Until then, let's just drop this issue. Thank you, Sandi Zets Co-Moderator USNA-Net www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA07928 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:09:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Bille To: "'USNA, mail list server'" Cc: "'Jarstokes@aol.com'" Subject: RE: usna-net: Thanksgiving Holiday & Other Travel Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:21:38 -0600 Organization: @Home >The DC airport (Reagan Natl. Airport) is about 45-50 miles from the Academy, approx. a 60-75 min drive in normal traffic. Most of the mids use BWI (Baltimore Washington Intl). It's much more convenient than dealing with the D.C. traffic. Here's a link to an area map that will show the relative locations of BWI, DC and Annapolis: http://www.sni.net/~billepf/annapolis/airports.html - Annapolis and area airports >we would like to make the blanket offer to you or any other parents whose Mid needs a ride or connection the airport Thank you Randy and Richard for making such a kind and generous offer. Daniel '01 has his routine pretty well worked out by now but there were times . . . Daniel had a short fuse on a flight leaving from the DC airport two years ago. A last minute taxi ride cost him $80, one-way. The expense in anxiety and frustration was more damaging than the cab fare. Just knowing there are good people willing to help the mids provides a comfort level that helps them through these ordeals. Thanks again for the kind offer, Paul Bille http://www.csn.net/~billepf 10349 W Burgundy Ave (303)979-0197 voice Littleton, CO 80127-5533 (303)973-4281 fax COPA http://www.csn.net/~billepf/annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: BILLE Daniel P. 01 BILLE Paul and Mary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA12855 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:28:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: A Special Note to All... Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:30:14 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 It's time to put on my Moderator hat again and as Barney Fife would say, "Nip it! Nip it in the bud." Earlier today, a very warm hearted and concerned appeal was made suggesting that members should collectively donate money in an effort to assist some Midshipmen with transportation costs among other things. This is my "Official Response" to that appeal... First... Such an appeal constitutes a "Call to Action" which is strictly forbidden by our rules. While it was extremely well intended and totally innocent, we cannot permit our Listservers to be used for anything except its state Mission... 1. Quickly and inexpensively share information about Navy Parenting between members of the list. 2. Provide a forum to exchange ideas, tips, opinions, and views on the Navy parenting experience. 3. Distribute relevant Navy news to members in a timely fashion. Second... Even if such an action were to be permitted, the task would be a nightmare. How would we determine which cause was worthy or which one more worthy than another. We are not set up to receive, account for or disburse funds. These Lists are basically a one man show, ME (with my faithful sidekick... err, wife, Sandi, helping). We couldn't possibly undertake the effort necessary to administer a charity as well. We are here for "emotional" support. Trying to collect money would cloud our mission and ultimately drive away members who really do need our advice and support. So congratulate yourselves on all the good things we do for each other and know that we cannot be all things to all people. We have held a hand across thousands of miles of cyberspace when a mother missed her daughter or a father secretly missed his son. We have been there to tell a friend how to pack a Care Package or catch a shuttle to BWI. We've help each other understand the secret world on the Yard with its weird abbreviations and special words for common things. We have laughed and cried and shared together as only Navy Parents can. We have been the sole emotional support for hundreds of our fellow Parents when they needed our help the most. Let's take pride in what we do and do it to the best of our abilities. There is, however, a monetary cause that you can support. As you know, we operate these Listservers through the generosity of WP.ORG who buy and maintain the computers that do all of the wonderful things this listserver benefits from. If you haven't considered donating, today is a good day to say thank you to WP.ORG for our Listservers by sending a small donation to them at... WP-ORG INC PO Box 609 Moneta VA 24121 In the event you care to make your donation with a credit card, you may use this secure link: httpS://defender.west-point.org/donate/funddrive6 Your donation will make it possible to continue THIS service and what is more important than that? Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA20747 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:34:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:42:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" cc: "" Subject: Re: usna-net: recent posting... In-Reply-To: <00a101bed532$5a6b11c0$9d01d4cd@sandi> My intention was NOT to collect money as I am well aware of the purpose of this server. People needed to be made aware of what happens in the yard, so they may be sensitive to this issue. I can't keep my check book straight. There is no way I would collect money for anything. peace and hugs........Jo Oliver On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Sandi (Stoker) Zets wrote: > To all... > > I just spoke with Mike on the phone and he asked me to send this short > message. > > A recent posting asked for a "call to action" concerning collecting money. > > THIS IS AGAINST THE RULES OF OUR LISTSERVER. > > Please be advised that Mike will send a general post to the net to clarify > this subject this evening. Until then, let's just drop this issue. > > Thank you, > > Sandi Zets > Co-Moderator USNA-Net > www.navy-usna.org > > > *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA07109 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:53:37 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Quick Note... Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:02:15 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... Just a quick note to those that still may wish to donate to WP.ORG's fund raising efforts. I forgot to mention to ask you to identify yourselves as a member of USNA-Net when you send in your donations. PLEASE PUT A LITTLE NOTE ON THE MEMO LINE OF YOUR CHECK SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT YOUR A "NAVY" PARENT !!! If you've already sent it off without identification drop a quick email to ditus Bolantos at ditus@west-point.org letting him know who you are and that you're NAVY. No need to remind him of how much you sent. Just that you're NAVY. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA04300 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 11:38:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Jhb317@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:46:44 EDT Subject: usna-net: Summer Cruise To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello, What are the expenses for a mid during the summer cruise? Does the Academy pay any of the travel expenses? If the Mid has to pay plane fare to wherever, then I assume a military fare would be the safest one, just in case plans get changed, as in the case of the mid in Japan. How long do sub tours last? Do most mids who are detailers, complete their summer cruise before plebe summer? If a mid wants to be a detailer how much time do they have off? I would love to hear all about the 2nd class summer. Is that what it is called after the Youngster year? Carol Bringhurst Josh 02/19 Lightweight Crew TX *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA08947 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:25:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brian Datko" To: Subject: usna-net: Flag? Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:31:59 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I just heard from my son. He is enjoying Boston but not doing much today because he has watch. We are going down to the yard on Friday to watch him come in. He told us his YP # and to look for "pennat 2" flag? can someone explain what we are going to look for? Thanks Kathie Datko Ardmore Pa *** USNA-NET post by: DATKO Joshua 02 DATKO Kathie and Brian ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA09273 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:34:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "Van Spiros" To: Subject: usna-net: info on 2nd class summer Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:36:54 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Hi Carol and all, This is information based on my son's 2nd class summer experiences. Experiences may vary depending on choices the Mid may make. Often choices of location and type of gray hull ship as well as whether you are asked to be a detailer (first or second set) depend on class standing. Michael was assigned to an LPD--amphibious assault ship assigned to Westpac and left the Academy May 28. The Navy makes all travel arrangements to and from Annapolis and the assignment. Thank Heavens because they were originally supposed to leave May 26. They had a theoretical return date of June 25. Some groups were returned to Annapolis earlier; his was not. His group flew commercial airlines from BWI to Los Angeles, Hong Kong and on to Bangkok where they met the ship. The airline even upgraded some of them to business class!! The ship was on its way back from the Gulf, carrying Marines with helos to be off loaded in Okinawa; another group of Marines were picked up in Okinawa and brought to So Korea; and the ship returned to Sasebo Japan. He had varied experiences shadowing an enlisted seaman--rode in a helo, participated in a fire drill that would have earned extra hazard pay; experienced the relationship(?) between the Marines and Navy personnel on a ship and had a great opportunity to visit areas of the world he probably would not have been able to visit. In a pre-departure meeting at the Academy, they had been encouraged to bring $200.00 for spending money for their 4 weeks in the Far East. This did not go very far. A public bus to Nagasaki was almost $20.00 USD. The Navy provides meals and a place to sleep on the ship. Due to the cost of living in Japan, many Mids were limited in what they could do or eat off base. Friends whose Mids were assigned to San Diego were on ships that never left port. They sunbathed on beaches for 3 weeks!! 2nd class cruise experiences vary according to ship assignment and port location. The Navy's travel agency provided transportation back from Japan to Annapolis and the Mids were given an opportunity for a stop over enroute to Annapolis. Michael came home for 1 day--long enough to do laundries--and had to report to the Academy for the beginning of Protramid. Because of a potential conflict due to potential Fall transfer to West Point, he had given up his 2nd set detail assignment to a roommate. As it turned out, Protramid seems to have been an excellent experience for him. I'm actually surprised such an experience isn't mandatory at some point for all Mids. He spent a week with the Marines in Quantico; a week with the aviators near Pensacola-actually flew the Navy's trainers; and spent a week with the submariners in GA and cruised on a "boomer" for a few days out of Mayport FL. Most importantly, he had the opportunity to speak with officers and sometimes meet Academy graduates/friends and sponsor brothers serving in the various branches of the "real" Navy. Their insightful comments have been very helpful to him as he continues to develop career/educational goals. The Navy paid for all travel expenses during Protramid. Sometimes they rode in buses and sometimes they flew in troop transports between assignments. Spending money was provided by the Mid and sometimes training officers provided transportation or tickets to local sporting events. He now has about 4 1/2 weeks of leave. Detailers may have cruises before or after their detail set. Some detail assignments run across 2 sets and the Mid may have leave time before and after the detail assignment. If a Mid attends Summer School, leave time will also vary. Depending on the budget, other opportunities may become available for language study abroad or other training opportunities. We've found we can't make any summer plans until the summer assignments are set. This year it was early May before we had any sense of his leave time. The Navy makes you very flexible. The experiences our Mids are exposed to are pricelessly invaluable. I'd love to hear about first class summer opportunities because they seem to vary by year and budget also. Good luck to all!! Go Navy!! Carolyn Spiros Boston, MA *** USNA-NET post by: SPIROS Michael 01-30 SPIROS Van and Carolyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA10225 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:10:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Norton Smiley" To: Subject: RE: usna-net: info on 2nd class summer Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:23:02 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990724174404.IZJI5731@kookla> Carolyn et al, This summer my son, Devin, '00, spent block 1 in Quantico doing Leatherneck training. He then went to block 2, the first of which was FMF in Camp LeJeune. He is now completing the second half of Block 2 in flight training at Cherry Point, NC. For block 3, Devin voluntarily gave up his leave to take an internship at DISA in Reston, VA. These are all activities Devin wanted, but not the sequence or location he requested. Turns out a Marine Officer at the Academy selected the sequence and locations for Devin based upon his view of what was best for Devin. He is most excited about being selected for the DISA internship. Apparently not an easy assignment to get. Last summer Devin was a detailer for the first set of plebe summer. He then was on the USS Inchon, a LHD3 command and control ship for MEU's including LHD3 helicopter carriers. He did training exercises off the coast of Greenland after sailing from the Inchon's home port in Texas. Thus was not one of his favorite summer assignments. He repeatedly requested the Med and the Pacific for assignments but never got any in his 3 summers at the Academy. I think they suspected Devin was going back to the Marines no matter what. BTW, Devin's ambition is to be a Marine fixed wing pilot. Norton Smiley Devin, '00/22nd Westport, CT -----Original Message----- From: Van Spiros [mailto:BismarkS@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 8:37 AM To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: info on 2nd class summer Hi Carol and all, This is information based on my son's 2nd class summer experiences. Experiences may vary depending on choices the Mid may make. Often choices of location and type of gray hull ship as well as whether you are asked to be a detailer (first or second set) depend on class standing. Michael was assigned to an LPD--amphibious assault ship assigned to Westpac and left the Academy May 28. The Navy makes all travel arrangements to and from Annapolis and the assignment. Thank Heavens because they were originally supposed to leave May 26. They had a theoretical return date of June 25. Some groups were returned to Annapolis earlier; his was not. His group flew commercial airlines from BWI to Los Angeles, Hong Kong and on to Bangkok where they met the ship. The airline even upgraded some of them to business class!! The ship was on its way back from the Gulf, carrying Marines with helos to be off loaded in Okinawa; another group of Marines were picked up in Okinawa and brought to So Korea; and the ship returned to Sasebo Japan. He had varied experiences shadowing an enlisted seaman--rode in a helo, participated in a fire drill that would have earned extra hazard pay; experienced the relationship(?) between the Marines and Navy personnel on a ship and had a great opportunity to visit areas of the world he probably would not have been able to visit. In a pre-departure meeting at the Academy, they had been encouraged to bring $200.00 for spending money for their 4 weeks in the Far East. This did not go very far. A public bus to Nagasaki was almost $20.00 USD. The Navy provides meals and a place to sleep on the ship. Due to the cost of living in Japan, many Mids were limited in what they could do or eat off base. Friends whose Mids were assigned to San Diego were on ships that never left port. They sunbathed on beaches for 3 weeks!! 2nd class cruise experiences vary according to ship assignment and port location. The Navy's travel agency provided transportation back from Japan to Annapolis and the Mids were given an opportunity for a stop over enroute to Annapolis. Michael came home for 1 day--long enough to do laundries--and had to report to the Academy for the beginning of Protramid. Because of a potential conflict due to potential Fall transfer to West Point, he had given up his 2nd set detail assignment to a roommate. As it turned out, Protramid seems to have been an excellent experience for him. I'm actually surprised such an experience isn't mandatory at some point for all Mids. He spent a week with the Marines in Quantico; a week with the aviators near Pensacola-actually flew the Navy's trainers; and spent a week with the submariners in GA and cruised on a "boomer" for a few days out of Mayport FL. Most importantly, he had the opportunity to speak with officers and sometimes meet Academy graduates/friends and sponsor brothers serving in the various branches of the "real" Navy. Their insightful comments have been very helpful to him as he continues to develop career/educational goals. The Navy paid for all travel expenses during Protramid. Sometimes they rode in buses and sometimes they flew in troop transports between assignments. Spending money was provided by the Mid and sometimes training officers provided transportation or tickets to local sporting events. He now has about 4 1/2 weeks of leave. Detailers may have cruises before or after their detail set. Some detail assignments run across 2 sets and the Mid may have leave time before and after the detail assignment. If a Mid attends Summer School, leave time will also vary. Depending on the budget, other opportunities may become available for language study abroad or other training opportunities. We've found we can't make any summer plans until the summer assignments are set. This year it was early May before we had any sense of his leave time. The Navy makes you very flexible. The experiences our Mids are exposed to are pricelessly invaluable. I'd love to hear about first class summer opportunities because they seem to vary by year and budget also. Good luck to all!! Go Navy!! Carolyn Spiros Boston, MA *** USNA-NET post by: SPIROS Michael 01-30 SPIROS Van and Carolyn *** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton and Harriet ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA21303 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:45:00 -0500 (CDT) From: "Anne Paul" To: "usna-net" Subject: Re: usna-net: info on 2nd class summer Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:53:18 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Carolyn, et al, My kids had similar experiences to what the others have written - some trips and experiences of a lifetime - some beach time with not much to do as the ship was in port and the captain didn't have much time for mids. I think a big factor in which ships the mids are assigned to is how much money the academy has to spend on transportation in any particular year - and they always have flown them back to BWI, even if the mid wants to turn around right away and head home. Anne Paul in Alaska Morgen '94, Jan '99, Scott '02/28th *** USNA-NET post by: PAUL Jan William 99 and Scott W. 02 PAUL Jim and Anne ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA22613 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:31:18 -0500 (CDT) From: MPOVONDRA@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:36:06 EDT Subject: usna-net: Hello from a pair of newbies To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi everyone, We just got the information about your group, and are excited to be a part of it. Let us introduce ourselves. We are Marc & Theo Povondra from Antelope, CA We are the proud parents of former CPL Marc T. Povondra USMC. First a little about ourselves. Navy life has a long history in our family. My dad served during W.W.II, and I, Marc, served 12 yrs. active-duty Navy and 8 yrs reserve Navy. Now comes the conflict. For the last ten years I have been in the Army reserve. (Beat Navy/Beat Army?????) I have just retired out of the reserves. Presently we have a daughter serving in the Navy aboard the USS Emory S. Land now ported in Italy. We also have another son, who wants nothing to do with the military. He is now working for America West Airlines. Our Mid, is Marc T. Povondra, 03, 14th Company. Any news from other parents from the 14th CO will greatly be appreciated. Marc attended NAPS last year and played on the Basketball Team. He has been practicing with the team at the Academy and hopes to make the team as a walk-on. Before attending NAPS, he served almost 3 yrs in the Corps. His last assignment was with FAST CO. (Fleet Anti-terrorism Strike Team) in Norfolk, VA. He is one of about 20 other Marines who attended NAPS and are now at the Academy. From the 2 brief phone calls received from him, he says the PT and military bearing is no big deal. Being an ex-Marine, he finds the Navy PT quite easy. We are eager to connect with a Parents Group in the No. Cal area. We have heard that there are 15 Mids from the Sacramento area and that they had a picnic this summer. But we received no information regarding it. HELP!! Any parent from our area or from 14th CO, please contact us. Did we forget anything??? We have received about 20 emails today's and have enjoyed reading them. Thanks from a couple of newbies, starving for information. Marc & Theo Povondra Antelope, CA Marc T. 03/14 *** USNA-NET post by: POVONDRA Marc T 03-14 POVONDRA Marc and Theo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA27126 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:45:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brian Datko" To: Subject: usna-net: YP Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:52:28 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 The YP's will be arriving at 10:00. See you at the yard! Kathie Datko Ardmore Pa *** USNA-NET post by: DATKO Joshua 02 DATKO Kathie and Brian ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA29143 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:21:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Cielorosso@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 18:30:31 EDT Subject: usna-net: (no subject) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org To all, There is an article on today's Capital (Annapolis' newspaper) about Plebes and Detailers with a nice picture. You can access it trough the Parents' Clubs Web Pages (for example MD). Enjoy! Sandra Rogers David 02/15 *** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS David T 02-15 ROGERS Sandra and Tom ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA09189 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:00:18 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: TECH NOTE - Email Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:05:49 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... Since some of you are less comfortable with computers than others, I will be sending these TECH NOTES to help. DO NOT respond to these TECH NOTES on the Listservers. Address ALL responses or questions to me personally at mzets@mail.com. Computer whizzes delete this message - Newbies read on... ============================================= TECH NOTE - Email Since a lot of you are new to EMAIL as well as computers, here are a few HINTS for our Listserver: GET COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR EMAIL PROGRAM... Take the time to get really comfortable with your email program and ALL of its features. It will be you life line and possibly your only means of communications with your Mid for his/her stay at the Yard. There are loads of features that will make your e-life better. There are ways to automatically direct incoming mail to special places depending on who sent it, what it is about and who it came from so that you never have to MISS a message from your Mid among all of the Listserver stuff. There are even ways to automatically delete messages from a certain sender. These are called Mail Filters and every email program has them. See your HELP for specific instructions on how to set them up. IF YOU'RE PAYING BY THE MINUTE... Some of us do not have unlimited connection time each month. If you have a limit on the number of hours you can be online before you start paying extra, learn how to read and compose email "off-line" and then only "Go Online" for brief periods to send and receive mail. That will leave you much more time for browsing the web for interesting sites. It will also save your a bundle of money if you don't type at 200 words per minute. AOL has a feature that they call "Flashsessions" that very quickly connects, sends and receives all mail and then disconnects automatically. You can set it up by clicking on Mail Center and then "Set up Automatic AOL (Flashsessions)." If you're new to AOL, use the "Walk me through" option and save a bunch of "connect time" for the end of each month. DON'T QUOTE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE IN YOUR MESSAGE... This results in loads of extra text being sent to everybody and really stuffs our archives with extra stuff. Somewhere in your email program is a menu selection that allows you to disable the option to "Quote Original Message." In MSIE you'll find it in "Tools - Options" and in Netscape you'll find it in "View - Preferences - Mail & Groups - Messages." If you aren't one of these, look in your program's Help for instructions on how to set or disable this option. DON"T "CC:" OUR LISTS... If you want to reply to Jane Doe, then send the response just to her. If you want to reply to Jane Doe and share your answer with the rest of us, send your message TO our Listserver and make the salutation: "To Jane Doe and All..." DON'T carbon copy the Listserver. First, it messes with my filing system and second it sends Jane Doe two copies since she will get one as member of our Listserver in addition to the one she get directly. READ ALL OF YOUR INCOMING MAIL BEFORE YOU ANSWER A QUESTION... Way too many of you jump to answer a question that has already been answered in a message you haven't read yet further down in your In Box. Remember that every time you hit the send button, you send your words of wisdom to almost 500 families. DON'T FORWARD ANYTHING... If you hit the "Forward" button in most email programs, it sends the message as an ATTACHMENT. Attachments are forbidden due to the risk of Viruses. If you must quote the original message, "Copy" and "Paste" the selected text into the body of your message inside a set Greater Than and Less Than symbols like this... "<<< quoted text >>>" To "Copy", bring up the message on your screen that you want to Copy the text from, position the mouse at the beginning of the text, depress the left mouse button and while continuing to hold it down, drag the mouse over the text to be copied. When it is all highlighted, let up on the mouse button. Then press the "Ctrl" key and the letter "C" at the same time. The way you do when you want to capitalized a regular character but using the "Ctrl" key instead of the shift key. This will copy the highlighted text to a magic place called the Clipboard. Bring up your message that you want to copy the text into and position the cursor at the place you want to insert the copied text. To "Paste" the contents of the Clipboard into the new message, press the "Ctrl" key and the "V" key at the same time and (TA DA) the copied text is inserted without you having to type it all over again. This works ANYWHERE in Windows, even between programs. The copied information remains on the Clipboard until it is replaced by something else or you turn off your computer, so you can "Paste" the same text many times with only one "Copy." You can also do this by highlighting and using the RIGHT mouse button to "Copy", and Paste" instead of the Ctrl C and Ctrl V. ============================================= Please note that I know "I" am violating the rule that "ALL messages must relate to Navy Parenting" but I feel there is good reason. As Moderator, I'm allowed to be the exception that proves the rule. If you do not need a little computer advice from time to time, simply hit the delete key when you see the Subject: TECH NOTE. If you have a specific question that you need help with, write to me at mzets@mail.com. I will answer as many as possible directly and those that seem to be of general interest, I will post in a TECH NOTE. Mike Zets List Moderator *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA20744 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:52:53 -0500 (CDT) From: NevesPK@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 03:00:19 EDT Subject: usna-net: Sprint Football To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Does anyone know when the Sprint Football Schedule for this season with be available. I have checked the Athletics web site and so far just last years schedule is there..Thanks Pamela Doug 02/22 *** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA28013 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 03:02:43 -0500 (CDT) From: NevesPK@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 04:10:12 EDT Subject: usna-net: Thanks To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Thanks to everyone for the help in locating the 1999 Sprint Football Schedule... GoNavy! Pamela *** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA13525 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 09:11:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Amysoule@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 10:20:25 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: (no subject) To: Cielorosso@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org The Capital Online: Top stories can be accessed at: http://www.capitalonline.com/TOP.html :-) Amy *** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA26316 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:14:26 -0500 (CDT) From: RAmes50695@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:23:28 EDT Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Fw: Plebe summer phone call To: nancyp@dialnet.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org Thanks Anne, for a little different perspective on Plebe summer. I know your son must be very proud of his platoon's honor placement in the parade. I also know that his must be a very frustrating, painful, lonely job at times. He has taken his task seriously and apparently has found a method that works for his charges. Congratulations to him, and to those he is leading. Judy Ames Erin Borozny 03/17 Calabasas, CA *** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA26546 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:21:44 -0500 (CDT) From: RAmes50695@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:30:29 EDT Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Yesterday on the Yard To: LIEBERTCO@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Dindy, Thanks for the update and thanks for taking photos of our plebes. Maybe one of these days WE will get lucky and recognize our daughter in one of those much appreciated shots. We are so far away and DO appreciated the connection we feel through Mike"s photo gallery. Thank you again for caring and for being so generous with your time. Judy Ames Erin Borozny 03/17 Calabasas, CA *** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA12013 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:45:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "McFadden" To: Subject: usna-net: question Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:52:50 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hi All! Does anyone know what a "rack race" is? Our son referred to it a couple of times in our phone call, but time was so precious we didn't want to ask. Thanks, Renee McFadden, Redmond, WA (Ramin 09/03) *** USNA-NET post by: MCFADDEN Ramin 03 MCFADDEN Bruce and Renee ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA12844 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:26:57 -0500 (CDT) From: MTBLEAU@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:34:22 EDT Subject: usna-net: Detailers with sick plebes To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi: Just wanted to share my recollection of my son's experience as a detailer last summer. particularly with the families of those with flu symptoms worried about dehydration, etc. The detailers are up long after the plebe's go to bed (which is why they get exhausted as well), because they have to document the physical, mental and emotional condition of each and every plebe they are responsible for each and every night !!! My son had to check their feet, and record every little thing that might affect their success with their training. Remember also , parents who attended I- Day that the detailers take a very serious oath as well, to look after the well being of the plebes they are responsible for . They are also hand picked to be the best trainers possible. Based on what my son told me .. do not worry that the detailer (even though they may come across harsh) knows what a heavy responsiblity they carry. I have heard of a detailer who was severely punished for putting his plebes in danger by slamming a glass down in anger at the lunch table and having it break. He was on restriction for a long time. The concern,being that flying glass might hurt a plebe. He may have been even relieved of detail. If your son or daughter requires medical attention , they will get it, even if they are too proud to ask for it. Carol M Zach '00 *** USNA-NET post by: FARRAR Zachary 00 MONTBLEAU Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA13765 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:08:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: References: <001301bed6f0$6cf76400$decb2599@default> Subject: Re: usna-net: question Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:11:03 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 A rack race is where they race to make their besd, PERFECTLY, FAST!! Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA14028 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:19:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:34:04 -0700 From: Susan Lemerande To: McFadden CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: question References: <001301bed6f0$6cf76400$decb2599@default> A "rack race" is when the upperclass has the plebes take all their bedding out into the p-way and they have a certain amount of time (like 90 seconds!!!) to make their rack and return to the p-way. Oh, and it has to be made PROPERLY for the inspection comes next. What fun. Regards, Susan :-) Ted '01 17 Varsity Lacrosse McFadden wrote: > Hi All! > Does anyone know what a "rack race" is? Our son referred to it a couple of > times in our phone call, but time was so precious we didn't want to ask. > Thanks, > Renee McFadden, > Redmond, WA > (Ramin 09/03) > > *** USNA-NET post by: MCFADDEN Ramin 03 MCFADDEN Bruce and Renee > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org -- A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that is in your heart, chaff and grain together, knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, keep only what is worth keeping, and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. ----- Susan Lemerande lemonade@ivic.net *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA00995 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 23:44:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: PLEASE !!! Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:52:58 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... PLEASE KEEP PLEBE STUFF ON USNA-PLEBE AND OFF OF USNA-NET !!! Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA27424 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:50:11 -0500 (CDT) From: "Van Spiros" To: Subject: usna-net: Army/Navy hotel info for 2000 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:27:12 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Hi all, I know this may seem strange but the Greater Boston Parents Club is looking into hotel info and locations for the Navy/Army game to be held at Ravens Stadium in Baltimore in Dec 2000. The chairperson has been warned about unsafe and inadequate public transportation to Ravens Stadium. He's trying to decide whether to look in the Annapolis area or Baltimore area. Any advice on what the official hotels might be or especially info on state and availability of public transportation would be greatly appreciated. Best wishes to all. Go Navy!! Beat Army!! Carolyn Spiros Boston, MA *** USNA-NET post by: SPIROS Michael 01-30 SPIROS Van and Carolyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA15830 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:52:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:31:54 -0500 From: woodmont@edge.net (Phillip L. Patterson) To: USNA-Net Subject: usna-net: YP Return 30 July Dear Friends, If there happen to be any photographers among the parents observing the YP "Pass in Review" this coming Friday, 30 July, Teresa and I would sincerely appreciate someone trying for a shot of YP 683. Our son Craig is aboard and boat 683 also happens to be the same YP that Alan was on during his youngster cruise. We will gladly pay for a couple of reprints that couldbe added to each mids scrapbook. Although we have been very fortunate to spend several days at the yard, neither of us has ever been able to work it out for the YP return. We did get a call from Craig tonight; their squadron is in NYC and he hopes to get seats to "Les Miserables" for tomorrow evening. I suppose the violin and flute lessons may be exhibiting some residual influence. When at home, he is usually in the farm truck, Country/Western going strong on the radio, headed to the pasture with a couple of handguns, two or three rifles and a sack full of ammo (Ready to defend the property against an onslaught of rabid skunks, racoons, coyotes etc. that plague a cow/calf operation). Although I, too, am a real fan of C/W, I am certainly delighted that he and some of the mids have planned to take in a truly wonderful Broadway Show. For those of you who have the opportunity, try to catch some of the performances by the various USNA musical organizations. There are some very talented musicians among the Brigade, both vocal and instrumental, (we normally clean house to the Navy Glee Club CD's) and I always hope to hear a group or two while visiting USNA. Surely wish them all a fun time in the "Big Apple". They seemed to have enjoyed Boston. GO NAVY - BEAT AIR FORCE Teresa and Phillip Patterson Alan, '00/19th Craig, '02/10th Joseph. '03/Foxtrot, Beast Barracks, West Point (I understand there are a few more families out there with this ARMY/NAVY predicament) *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Craig E. 02-10 - Alan A. 00-19 PATTERSON Phillip and Teresa ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA11639 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:16:29 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: jarcpa@pop.mindspring.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:23:52 -0400 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: jim roy Subject: usna-net: "Turnover" Ceremony at the Yard Dear Fellow Mid Parents, I just arrived back in Georgia after a quick trip to the Academy and thought I would share some observations with you. Saturday was a hot, sunny day but the breeze was blowing so that made it tolerable. I arrived on the Yard late in the afternoon so Plebes were in the middle of intramurals. I watched as some played flag football and some played basketball. Many plebes were walking along chatting with each other.....some actually quietly laughing and smiling. Except for the uniforms and mids on crutches and with knee braces, I might have been lulled into thinking that this was any college campus on a hot summer day. I found myself making sure that I smiled warmly to each plebe that I passed. I tried in vain to look for a familiar name on a name tag in hopes that I would recognize one from a name I had heard on this Net....to no avail. As I entered Tecumsah (SP?) Court, I heard a familiar voice say, " Mom, is that you?" My first set detailer son had seen me walking along from his room in Bancroft Hall and had run out to say a quick hello. I had not thought I wuld see him until church the next day so that was a pleasant surprise. As I waited the next morning outside the Chapel for my mid, I observed something that I found to be a small thing but in many ways significant. A group of elderly tourists were taking pictures on the steps to the Chapel. They were taking their time in doing so. As mids hurriedly walked up to the Chapel in order to enter on time, they immediately stopped at the bottom of the stairs and waited patiently for the group to finish. It was an act of respect for others that touched me deeply. Parents.....that is a mighty fine group of young men and women that is attending the USNA! The Chapel service was well attended.....there is something very special about experiencing all past and present midshipmen reciting the Midshipmen Prayer as well as singing the Navy Hymn. What a priviledge to have been there! The "Turnover" Ceremony was wonderful. I am sure the first set detailers were relieved to be relieved and yet very proud of "their" plebes' development. I couldn't help but wonder what was going on in the minds and hearts of the Class of 2003 as the second set detailers took over. I have no doubt that they will continue to develop as effective midshipmen. Many Blessings to All of You! Barbara Roy Andrew Roy, '01 Peachtree City, GA *** USNA-NET post by: ROY Andrew Thompson 01-10 ROY Barbara and Jim ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA15072 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:59:57 -0500 (CDT) From: USNAMOM03@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:06:36 EDT Subject: usna-net: Thank you To: USNA-Net@navy-usna.org To Barbara Roy and Upperclass Parents Thank you for all the information that you pass along to us about your previous experiences and ideas to make our Plebe's life a little easier. It is such a pleasure and so helpful to know that there is a wonderful support group that we have the ability to contact. I am very thankful for the opportunity to belong to this warm group and I keep thanking my son for choosing the Academy and the chance to get to know so many great people. Barbara, your entry regarding your visit to the Academy this past weekend was just great. You brought tears to my eyes as I could just picture the Mids at church. My son and I have attended Mass at the Academy on our several trips there and I always cry because it is so beautiful. I can't imagine how moving it will be to see my son in his uniform and singing in the choir in one of the most spectacular churches that I have ever been. I sincerely thank all of you for your time and your words. Loretta Napierkowski Christopher 03 H/16 Philadelphia,PA *** USNA-NET post by: NAPIERKOWSKI Christopher 03 NAPIERKOWSKI Loretta ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA26570 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:44:38 -0500 (CDT) From: RAmes50695@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:53:42 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: "Turnover" Ceremony at the Yard To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Dear Barbara and All Thank you so much for sharing your experience over the weekend. Our daughter is a plebe and we are aching to see her. It is so comforting to read all the posts from those of you who visit and then so selflessly share your experience with those of us who cannot be there. We live in California so we will never be able to "drop in" or make a "quick trip" to the yard such as the one you described. We can however use your experience to imagine ourselves there and imagine our daughter as one of those respectful plebes who waited for the visitors to take their photos. Thank you and all the others who continue to visit, take photos, and report back to the rest of us..........about the lives of our sons and daughters who are missed so very much. God Bless all of you, Judy Ames Erin Borozny 03/17 *** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA26842 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:52:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Jhb317@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:01:35 EDT Subject: usna-net: Sailing To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello, My son is on the sailboat Restless and they are coming back from New Hampshire. Is anyone going to be there for photos? I have not heard anything from him, which is not unusual, so I do not know when they will be arriving at the Academy. Thanks, Carol Bringhurst 02/19 Josh Lightweight Crew Houston, TX *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA16529 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:17:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:24:33 -0400 From: Sum1rite To: jim roy CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: "Turnover" Ceremony at the Yard References: <3.0.1.32.19990727112352.006a1af4@pop.mindspring.com> dear barbara, that was nice you wrote about the turnover ceremony. my son brian ( a firstie) is a second set detailer and probably replaced yours in echo company. he is the x.o. (executive officer) for echo. he just returned from his summer cruise and leave at home for 5 weeks. his cruise was an aviation cruise in japan for a month with a helicopter battalion out of asitgu island. our youngest daughter, rosie, just left annapolis for san diego and is stationed on the uss pearl harbor. her cruise will be underway for 19 days and she is excited. we were not told where they are going, but with the usual gossip we suspect hawaii or to seattle in a carrier battle group for fleet week. for you new parents, if you visit the us navy official website you can learn about all the ships of the navy and their specifications. the pearl harbor is the newest ship of the navy, commissioned may 28, 1999 and the first ship to accomodate women. separate berthing areas and heads, etc. my expertise as a navy mom is care packages. i sent 23 to my son during his plebe summer and about as many to my daughter. remember, they share everything with their roommates and squad mates. i once sent a care package for my daughters entire company during second set. i made about 500-600 cookies and put them in baggies with other little goodies. i made 120 bags which included little lolli's, beef jerky strips, licorice twizzlers. and an inspirational poem. i sent it to the detailers of charlie company and they passed it out on the bus ride to the orioles game. during second set all plebes go to baltimore for an orioles game. i want to remember what i sent in my care packages which will help all of you. 1. tennis balls (dead or new) the plebes cut them in half and put under the legs of their chairs and desk to prevent scratches on their floor. 2. acrylic wax or mop n'glow. they put this on the tile of the shower to prevent dust accumulation for alpha inspection. dust is the major enemy of bancroft. especially since the window are all open in this hot weather. 3. every box should contain cleaning supplies. citrussolve is one of the best things going. send a spray bottle to mix it with water. used strait it removes wax off the floor. plebes are not issued enuf cleaning supplies. i also sent small cans of pledge throughtout the year as well as plebe summer. 4. lighter - illegal but necessary. they light the shoe polish on their shoes to melt the polish and get a better shine. also send black shoe polish. they use tons of it and have no way to buy it. also send edge dressing. 5. crazy glue. used to glue loose strings on uniforms. and a miilion other things 6. art supplies - they have to do bulletin boards every week. send markers and fabric paint. they have to make a huge banner for parents weekend. the banners hang from the railing on the second floor of dahlgren. each company has one with a theme that is from their company name - e.g. india company had one once that had a picture of iwo jima ( I- for india) 7. american flags - when my son was a plebe if you did not have a flag they dumped the plebes in the room having a meeting in the shower with shoes and uniform. punishment for mutiny. illegal meeting without a flag present. 8. strong wire coat hangers - they need to hang clothes up 9. tupperware or other plastic containers. small ones are great for pencils etc in desk drawer. if anything is loose it gets dumped during an inspection also holds items in closets. my son also had an ammo box - too heavy to mail, but ask if they want one. it keeps their snacks away from the rodents. 10. drinks and drink mixes and a container to mix in. soda is illegal for plebes, makes it hard for them to exercise. also too many sweets are bad as they lose strength. better to send the little micro cups of ravioli and lasagna if your kids will eat em. they want real food. trail mixes, raisins, pepperidge farm fish- 11. trash bags on a roll. buy in bj's or sam's or costco, etc. they use to move their stuff for room switching, also a roll of clear 3M package tape is used for everything. 12. gold bond powder. plebe white works and utility's have some coating on them and when they sweat they get a lot of rashes. send small cans send tupperware to store this kind of stuff as well 13. old credit cards and pin backs. pin backs you buy in a uniform store for about a dollar a bag. they go on the back of their name tags. the issued ones fall off and get lost. if they have an old credit card they put the card next to the shirt, stick their name tag thru the shirt, then the card and then the little backing for the pins on the name tags. the backs come off easy so buy extras 14. batteries -for alarm clock, calculator, etc. 15. kleenex, paper goods - towels, handiwipes for cleaning make good fillers. 16. and last but not least send pictures, inspirational poems, cartoons etc. they put them on their blottters on their desks. the poems and little chicken soup type stories i continue to send all four years. letters and mail of any kind is so important. short notes are best and easiest to read. well, that is a pretty long list and as i think of more items, i will send in my two cents worth. my last thing to say is that being my 4th year now, i am still impressed how much the academy teaches our children to honor their parents and their country as well as their superiors. besides being in the family of God, there is nothing better than being a navy family. you parents will be treated royally - not only by the academy and the navy but mostly by your mids. one last word of warning. DO NOT CALL ABOUT YOUR KIDS. they never hear the end of it. and your call will only make trouble. the only time i called was when my daughters feet had total blisters for more than 3 weeks. then i called the chain of command and very gently mentioned my problem. within an hour my daughter had her own sneakers on her feet and was on chit from PEP. of course she sneaked into the line and did pep anyway. (speaking of pep - make sure you are on dewey field by 0530 on parents weekend with your videocameras. there is nothing like seeing the sun rise over chesapeake bay and 1000 plebes doing incredible feats of exercise - ladies wear perfume, the kids love to smell perfume at pep. in the future i will tell you how to find your plebe at pep if anyone wants to know) stay calm and keep up the good work. and stop complaining about the price of care packages. just think of the tuition bills you save. these kids are working their butts off for their education. it is not free for them. our support is crucial. the best thing you can do for your plebe is to pray for them every day and tell them so, too. God bless all of you, anne goscinski jim roy wrote: > Dear Fellow Mid Parents, > > I just arrived back in Georgia after a quick trip to the Academy and > thought I would share some observations with you. > > Saturday was a hot, sunny day but the breeze was blowing so that made it > tolerable. I arrived on the Yard late in the afternoon so Plebes were in > the middle of intramurals. I watched as some played flag football and some > played basketball. Many plebes were walking along chatting with each > other.....some actually quietly laughing and smiling. Except for the > uniforms and mids on crutches and with knee braces, I might have been > lulled into thinking that this was any college campus on a hot summer day. > I found myself making sure that I smiled warmly to each plebe that I > passed. I tried in vain to look for a familiar name on a name tag in hopes > that I would recognize one from a name I had heard on this Net....to no > avail. As I entered Tecumsah (SP?) Court, I heard a familiar voice say, " > Mom, is that you?" My first set detailer son had seen me walking along > from his room in Bancroft Hall and had run out to say a quick hello. I had > not thought I wuld see him until church the next day so that was a pleasant > surprise. > > As I waited the next morning outside the Chapel for my mid, I observed > something that I found to be a small thing but in many ways significant. A > group of elderly tourists were taking pictures on the steps to the Chapel. > They were taking their time in doing so. As mids hurriedly walked up to > the Chapel in order to enter on time, they immediately stopped at the > bottom of the stairs and waited patiently for the group to finish. It was > an act of respect for others that touched me deeply. Parents.....that is a > mighty fine group of young men and women that is attending the USNA! > > The Chapel service was well attended.....there is something very special > about experiencing all past and present midshipmen reciting the Midshipmen > Prayer as well as singing the Navy Hymn. What a priviledge to have been > there! > > The "Turnover" Ceremony was wonderful. I am sure the first set detailers > were relieved to be relieved and yet very proud of "their" plebes' > development. I couldn't help but wonder what was going on in the minds and > hearts of the Class of 2003 as the second set detailers took over. I have > no doubt that they will continue to develop as effective midshipmen. > > Many Blessings to All of You! > > Barbara Roy > Andrew Roy, '01 > Peachtree City, GA > > *** USNA-NET post by: ROY Andrew Thompson 01-10 ROY Barbara and Jim > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: GOSCINSKI Rose A 01-18 PUSKAS Brian 00-9 GOSCINSKI Ann and Ed ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA17351 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:54:04 -0500 (CDT) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:52:57 -0400 Subject: usna-net: Baptist Student Union X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,5-6 X-Juno-Att: 0 From: Barbara A Lahnen Dear Plebe Parents, I have really learned lots since signing up, what a super bunch ya'll are! I remember seeing an address for the Baptist Student Union and feel my son would benefit from it. If someone could send it to me, I'd really appreciate it! Also I'd like to hear from other parents in my son's platoon. Barbara Lahnen , Jax. FL Barbsmail3@Juno.com Will 03/11 ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. *** USNA-NET post by: LAHNEN William R 03 LAHNEN Barbara ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA23374 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:44:58 -0500 (CDT) From: KARNGU@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:53:59 EDT Subject: usna-net: (no subject) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Can anyone tell me what area of the Yard will the YP's dock on Fri. morning? My wife and I are hoping to meet the Mids there around 1000. Thanx for the help. Roger Mantz Brock 02/19 *** USNA-NET post by: MANTZ Brock A. 02-19 MANTZ Roger C. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA03401 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:07:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Stamperhog@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:13:36 EDT Subject: usna-net: Re: Re: usna-plebe: answers/roommates To: LIEBERTCO@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org In a message dated 7/27/99 6:04:15 PM, LIEBERTCO@aol.com wrote: <> Does this ever happen?????? I thought once you were separated, you were O-U-T!!!!! Also, has anyone ever heard of a mid leaving for a few years (at his OWN request) to do some time as an enlisted, and then returning to USNA to finish up and graduate????? Thanks, Lynn Bensy *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA03898 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:22:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Stamperhog@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:30:48 EDT Subject: usna-net: anybody ever heard of THIS????? To: usna-net@navy-usna.org In a message dated 7/27/99 6:04:15 PM, LIEBERTCO@aol.com wrote: <> Does this ever happen?????? I thought once you were separated, you were O-U-T!!!!! Also, has anyone ever heard of a mid leaving for a few years (at his OWN request) to do some time as an enlisted, and then returning to USNA to finish up and graduate????? Thanks, Lynn Bensy *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA00858 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:52:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Zel119@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:01:37 EDT Subject: usna-net: Phone call change/ Christmas Leave To: usna-net@navy-usna.org To: KKStuart@aol.com When we were worried last summer about missing phone calls (and we did not have the advance schedule that is available this year), I called the phone company and had Call Forwarding put on my phone, then I "forwarded" calls to my cell phone when I had to be out of the house. Re: Christmas Holiday Leave <> Our son books his travel through Omega Travel which is on campus in Bancroft Hall. We have already booked Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Spring Break. We book now for the last possible date to ensure he can get a flight. Omega can often change the date of travel and we have never been charged a penalty for the change. On more than one occasion, they have booked the original ticket at a "military rate" which permits changes and no penalty. The disadvantage is that we pay for these tickets sooner than later. The advantage is we know he will get home and back to school, and the rate is more reasonable than if we wait. In a previous posting, someone mentioned that the mids can go to the airport early and see if they can get out on an earlier flight than what they are ticketed for (our son has done this). The mids can also stay at their sponsor's house (this has been an option, but Dan has not yet had to do it. He has always been able to change his ticket or just get out on an earlier flight once he is at the airport.) There is no "perfect" way of handling this but we go through Omega so that Dan can handle the changes more easily as they arise, he has developed a good working relationship with the staff, and they know the Naval Academy schedules, requirements and travel options to and from the airport better than we do. Omega also returns some of the profit to the school. For us, booking early through Omega has worked the best. Not much longer to PPW...one of the best times ever with our son. Keep hanging in there...you're all doing great! Gisele Parker Dan Chiafair 02/18 Longwood FL *** USNA-NET post by: CHIAFAIR Daniel F. 02-18 PARKER Gisele ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA11750 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:39:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy765@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:48:17 EDT Subject: usna-net: Airline flights To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Re: airline flights I often go to a web page that will tell you the best fares available for the dates you are looking. You have to register, but registration is free. I only access the information. I have never actually purchased a flight over the internet, but I get some valuable information. The site is:www.expedia.msn.com Yesterday I booked Thanksgiving's flight via expedia's information. It's so handy to search the web right at home. Nancy Rogers Steve, 02/26 Hamilton, OH *** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS Stephen J. 02-26 ROGERS Randy and Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA16152 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:36:54 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:45:43 EDT Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: answers/roommates To: usna-net@navy-usna.org There are many examples of mids who have left the Academy and have returned. It is not the usual, but it can happen. I have heard of mids who leave, go to college for a year (prove them selves academically) and then return. One must REALLY want to return because you don't just ask, get reveiwed and come back..from what I understand, you must go through the nominating process all over....and the review process is exacting and demanding......but it CAN be done......definately not the usual thing.....but yes, there are those who leave and then return.... Dindy Liebert Peter 00/25 *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA16986 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:06:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:13:45 -0400 From: Sum1rite To: Nancy765@aol.com CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Airline flights References: <8fbbba6e.24d04801@aol.com> there is also http://www.priceline.com a friend of mine went to yellowstone several weeks ago. the agency airline tickets were $420. she bid $240, and she got her nonstop tickets from delta for $240. in less than 2 weeks before also. just a thought. with everyone buying tickets so early some of the parents clubs should look at early charters. last year a group of church people got a block of seats ahead of time, and we all flew to dearborn michigan for $110 round trip. we had to pay for the tickets by september 30 by that time you will know when your kids last classes and finals are. i say let the kids make their own arrangements. these mids are very resourceful. my son flew from bwi to nashville for $50 one way only. the kids are often better than us at this. they flew down there to shoot snakes and drive a car back. since our state is only 4 hours from the academy our parents club charters a bus called the plebe express. it is mainly for plebes who cannot drive. other mids can use it also, but once they get cars, they drive home. it does a round trip at thanksgiving and a return after new years. the parents make box lunches and rent a movie and the plebes sleep all the way home. they are not so wrecked when they get home and neither are we. the bus lets everyone off at rest areas and the parents drive there and pick them up. also, a lot of the upper class from every state drive home and give rides to the plebes and youngsters. when your plebe gets his computer he can ask for a ride online and other mids respond to hellp them out. of course this usually does not happen with west coast mids, but you never know. a lot of them drive strait through if they have drivers. a lot of mids drive to ohio, in fact i have sat next to ohio parents who come out for a football weekend and go home the same weekend. speaking of football games, stop by and say hi to the nj parents club at our tailgater outside gate "C". tell your mids to stop by and visit us also. last year we fed 350 mids after every game. obviously they were not all from new jersey. here's another tip - if you talk to your mid before the orioles game, remind her/him that they can call you from the stadium and talk as long as they want on the pay phones. most of them figure it out, but tell them if you get a chance. once i get all my tips out - i will stop writing so much. :-o} anne goscinski Nancy765@aol.com wrote: > Re: airline flights > > I often go to a web page that will tell you the best fares available > for the dates you are looking. You have to register, but registration is > free. I only access the information. I have never actually purchased a > flight over the internet, but I get some valuable information. The site > is:www.expedia.msn.com > > Yesterday I booked Thanksgiving's flight via expedia's information. > It's so handy to search the web right at home. > > Nancy Rogers > Steve, 02/26 > Hamilton, OH > > *** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS Stephen J. 02-26 ROGERS Randy and Nancy > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: GOSCINSKI Rose A 01-18 PUSKAS Brian 00-9 GOSCINSKI Ann and Ed ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA17199 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:12:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:19:56 -0400 From: Sum1rite To: LIEBERTCO@aol.com CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: answers/roommates References: also the mormons leave and go on missionary things and come back with no hassle LIEBERTCO@aol.com wrote: > There are many examples of mids who have left the Academy and have returned. > It is not the usual, but it can happen. I have heard of mids who leave, go > to college for a year (prove them selves academically) and then return. One > must REALLY want to return because you don't just ask, get reveiwed and come > back..from what I understand, you must go through the nominating process all > over....and the review process is exacting and demanding......but it CAN be > done......definately not the usual thing.....but yes, there are those who > leave and then return.... > Dindy Liebert > Peter 00/25 > > *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: GOSCINSKI Rose A 01-18 PUSKAS Brian 00-9 GOSCINSKI Ann and Ed ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA17413 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:16:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [209.122.224.193] From: "Teri Sweatman" To: sum1rite@ix.netcom.com, Nancy765@aol.com Cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Airline flights Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:25:37 PDT WHEN IS THE ORIOLES GAME...SOMEONE REPLY ASAP. Teri Sweatman _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: SWEATMAN Dan 03-22 SWEATMAN Mike and Teri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA17568 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:20:33 -0500 (CDT) From: CMears4@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:29:26 EDT Subject: usna-net: usna-plebe:answers/roommates To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Although it is possible to separate from the Navy and then return, it is not common. My husband (Class of 1975) said that it is probably more common for a Midn. to separate after two years, go to a regular college and go through their ROTC program and become a commissioned officer before his peers from the Academy, although neither of these incidents happen often. Caryn Mears, WA Mollie Mears, '03, 21st *** USNA-NET post by: MEARS Mollie Ann 03 MEARS Caryn L. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA19213 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:33:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Stamperhog@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:41:52 EDT Subject: Re: Re: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: answers/roommates To: sum1rite@ix.netcom.com, LIEBERTCO@aol.com CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org In a message dated 7/28/99 8:29:42 AM, sum1rite@ix.netcom.com wrote: <> Wonder if they have to go thru the entire application and selection process, or if they are assured a "place" to come back to automatically????? Lynn *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA19452 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:41:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Norton Smiley" To: "usna net" Subject: Re: usna-net: usna-plebe:answers/roommates Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:47:08 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 One word of caution about this route to get a commission: It is my understanding not all ROTC commissions are regular active service commissions, but a good number are reserve officer commissions. There is a difference. Those getting commissions from the service academies get regular active service commissions if they qualify (pass all physical tests, etc). Norton Smiley Devin,'00/22nd Westport, CT -----Original Message----- From: CMears4@aol.com To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 9:28 AM Subject: usna-net: usna-plebe:answers/roommates >Although it is possible to separate from the Navy and then return, it is not >common. My husband (Class of 1975) said that it is probably more common for >a Midn. to separate after two years, go to a regular college and go through >their ROTC program and become a commissioned officer before his peers from >the Academy, >although neither of these incidents happen often. >Caryn Mears, WA >Mollie Mears, '03, 21st > >*** USNA-NET post by: MEARS Mollie Ann 03 MEARS Caryn L. > >Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > >Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > > > *** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA20064 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:10:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Laurenrich@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:19:10 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: answers/roommates To: usna-net@navy-usna.org As I understand it, Midshipmen who leave the Academy to serve a mission for the Mormon church must resign from the Academy and reapply to return. That means obtaining a nomination as well. To be considered for readmission, their academic and performance grades at the Academy must be at a certain level when they leave and their conduct while on mission must be exemplary.If you speak with their parents, returning is far from automatic. All are on tenterhooks until the readmission is in writing. Lauren Rich Sandy, Utah Jeremy '99 *** USNA-NET post by: RICH Lauren 99 Jeremy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA03848 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:21:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:28:59 -0400 From: Sum1rite To: Norton Smiley CC: usna net Subject: Re: usna-net: usna-plebe:answers/roommates References: <00de01bed908$1246fb00$2da5a5ce@norton.evolve> norton, i think you are wrong. there have been no active commissions since the class of '96 - usna or rotc. maybe someone else knows better, but that is my recollection. Norton Smiley wrote: > One word of caution about this route to get a commission: > > It is my understanding not all ROTC commissions are regular active service > commissions, but a good number are reserve officer commissions. There is a > difference. Those getting commissions from the service academies get regular > active service commissions if they qualify (pass all physical tests, etc). > > Norton Smiley > Devin,'00/22nd > Westport, CT > -----Original Message----- > From: CMears4@aol.com > To: usna-net@navy-usna.org > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 9:28 AM > Subject: usna-net: usna-plebe:answers/roommates > > >Although it is possible to separate from the Navy and then return, it is > not > >common. My husband (Class of 1975) said that it is probably more common > for > >a Midn. to separate after two years, go to a regular college and go through > >their ROTC program and become a commissioned officer before his peers from > >the Academy, > >although neither of these incidents happen often. > >Caryn Mears, WA > >Mollie Mears, '03, 21st > > > >*** USNA-NET post by: MEARS Mollie Ann 03 MEARS Caryn L. > > > >Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > > >Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > > > > > > > > > *** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: GOSCINSKI Rose A 01-18 PUSKAS Brian 00-9 GOSCINSKI Ann and Ed ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA09674 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:02:17 -0500 (CDT) From: RAmes50695@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:10:48 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Detailers with sick plebes To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Dear Carol and All, Thank you immensely for taking the time to relieve some very anxious plebe parents. We DO as I'm sure you remember, worry about them. In many cases this is the young man or woman's first time away from home and may be overwhelming at best. It is so comforting to be reminded by someone who has walked in our shoes and who has also walked in shoes WE may well walk in in the future, that our sons and daughters detailers are very concerned, in fact PRIMARILY concerned, about the well-being of our plebes. I had SOME idea that the job of a detailer is a very difficult, very serious, very exhausting, and at times very thankless, job. I had NO idea as to the DEPTH of concern and care that is also part of that job. I thank you for sharing your experience and that of your son. I have a whole new understanding and a much deeper respect for the office of detailer. And I also know now that much of the worry and anxiety I have felt for my daughter is shared by those young men and women assigned to take care of them.........their detailers. Thanks you again Judy Ames Erin Borozny 03/17 *** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA12897 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:35:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Smcchic72@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:43:46 EDT Subject: usna-net: Re: commissions To: usna-net@navy-usna.org, usna-plebe@navy-usna.org I can't remember how many years ago this happened but the commissions from USNA are reserve commissions now just the same as ROTC. I do believe that a certain number may be regular commissions and don't know the criteria for that determination. When my husband was commissioned 28 years ago through ROTC, he received a regular commission but MOST did receive reserve commissions and then had to augment to regular Navy later through an application and board process. I may be wrong but I think that they changed the USNA commissions to reserve commissions when Adm. Boorda was CNO. Sherry Samar Jordan 03/16 Woodbridge, VA *** USNA-NET post by: SAMAR Jordan L 03 SAMAR Jack and Sherry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA25829 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:42:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:57:01 -0700 From: Susan Lemerande To: Sum1rite CC: Norton Smiley , usna net Subject: Re: usna-net: usna-plebe:answers/roommates References: <00de01bed908$1246fb00$2da5a5ce@norton.evolve> <379F59FA.558777B5@ix.netcom.com> Yes, this is true. The class of '96 was the last to get active duty commissions. My stepson was in that class. Now graduating mids get reserve commissions but are on active duty. After (I believe) five years, with commanding officer's recommendation, these become active duty commissions without review board action required. This means little to a midshipman, except that his or her title is Ensign, USNR rather than Ensign, USN. Susan :-) Sum1rite wrote: > norton, i think you are wrong. there have been no active commissions since the class of > '96 - usna or rotc. maybe someone else knows better, but that is my recollection. > > Norton Smiley wrote: > > > One word of caution about this route to get a commission: > > > > It is my understanding not all ROTC commissions are regular active service > > commissions, but a good number are reserve officer commissions. There is a > > difference. Those getting commissions from the service academies get regular > > active service commissions if they qualify (pass all physical tests, etc). > > > > Norton Smiley > > Devin,'00/22nd > > Westport, CT > > -----Original Message----- > > From: CMears4@aol.com > > To: usna-net@navy-usna.org > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 9:28 AM > > Subject: usna-net: usna-plebe:answers/roommates > > > > >Although it is possible to separate from the Navy and then return, it is > > not > > >common. My husband (Class of 1975) said that it is probably more common > > for > > >a Midn. to separate after two years, go to a regular college and go through > > >their ROTC program and become a commissioned officer before his peers from > > >the Academy, > > >although neither of these incidents happen often. > > >Caryn Mears, WA > > >Mollie Mears, '03, 21st > > > > > >*** USNA-NET post by: MEARS Mollie Ann 03 MEARS Caryn L. > > > > > >Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > > > > >Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton > > > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > *** USNA-NET post by: GOSCINSKI Rose A 01-18 PUSKAS Brian 00-9 GOSCINSKI Ann and Ed > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org -- A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that is in your heart, chaff and grain together, knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it, keep only what is worth keeping, and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away. ----- Susan Lemerande lemonade@ivic.net *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA28447 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:33:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: CORPS Message RE: The Genreal's Daughter Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:41:17 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... We have just received a message from Bob Magruder, Chairman of WP.ORG in reference to the subject movie. The transmission of this editorial message was a serious misuse of the Master List (CORPS) which transmits email to EVERY member of every list. I have voiced my objections to our Board of Advisors about this infraction of the master rules governing the use of all lists on behalf of all USNA members. While we may or may not be sympathetic to the Bob's views, his use of the master list to disseminate this editorial was extremely inappropriate. PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO EITHER HIS MESSAGE OR THIS ONE. We do not need the additional traffic on our Lists. Please allow the issue to die, here and now. My thanks and apologies for this unnecessary posting. Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA05750 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:52:32 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael" To: "USNA-NET" , Subject: Re: usna-net: Re: commissions Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:06:03 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I remember that the Classes of '97 & '98 were commissioned into the reserves. I also remember it being devastating to morale. I think that the class of '99 were given full commissions. Does anyone know whats up? Michael *** USNA-NET post by: SPINELLI Joseph 01-9 SPINELLI Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA17747 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:58:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:13:06 -0700 From: Susan Lemerande To: Michael CC: USNA-NET , Smcchic72@aol.com Subject: Re: usna-net: Re: commissions References: <001501bed966$ea1ccc40$2388fbd0@hppb6> Michael wrote: > I remember that the Classes of '97 & '98 were commissioned into the > reserves. I also remember it being devastating to morale. I think that the > class of '99 were given full commissions. NOPE, ALL CLASSES SINCE '96 WERE RESERVE. > Does anyone know whats up? > Michael > > *** USNA-NET post by: SPINELLI Joseph 01-9 SPINELLI Michael > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA22743 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 06:29:39 -0500 (CDT) From: DCA01@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:38:39 EDT Subject: usna-net: Firstie's Weekend To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I know it's early days, but I'd like to start a discussion of Firstie's Weekend. There will be flyers coming out about scheduled events. What I'd like to learn is what parents have attended in the past and what they enjoyed doing. I know that you may attend classes with your Firstie and have meals in Bancroft (breakfast and lunch???). The inner sanctum of Bancroft can be broached by parents. Is there anything else??? This is our last chance to be an active part of our Mid's life at the Academy and I want to be a part of it all. Thanks. Nancy Aubel Erik '00/12 Dayton, Ohio *** USNA-NET post by: AUBEL Erik 00-12 AUBEL Nancy and Dave ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA00598 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:51:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: DCA01@aol.com cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Firstie's Weekend REPLY In-Reply-To: <4eab320a.24d1973f@aol.com> The memories I have of firstie weekend area bit blurry. I can remember that my mid wasn't too crazy about eating in King hall. When I told him I would really like to have lunch there, he did take me there with a little reluctance. I had a ball. All the mids called me Momma Jo as I am no longer a Mrs. Even to this day when I see my son's friends they still call me that. I do not remember if it was after plebe summer or firstie weekend, but there were 'games' for the entire class which were unannounced. It began after all official activities were over. I remember crossing the bridge by the boat house and the mids had a type of a race. There were teams and the start ws rowing from the boat house to a place about 1/4 mile down, on the same side. They had to pick up their boats and carry them a short distance and then participate in a bunch of maneuvers (climbing up a wood wall, going through tires on the ground, etc) and they were to help each other. It was fun to watch, but again, I may have the wrong year. On I day, I had taken a picture of my 4 sons in front of the chapel steps and I regret that another was not taken at commissioning and firstie weekend. Just enjoy every minute of it. I remember some of the 'rents planned parties after the parade. A picnic would be nice too. Just bring money to spend in the mid store and like every other time, do get there early. Enjoy your weekend, I wish I was going with you. peace and hugs........Jo Oliver John '97 Long Island NY *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA03956 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:11:55 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:20:08 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Firstie's Weekend To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Boy, Nancy hit a familiar note in this house too.....I'd love to know more about Firstie Parents Weekend. I know that we will be receiving stuff soon but some insight from former participants would be great. Just a note here. Being Pres. of our SE PA parents group, I became a member of plebe net too and have enjoyed reading and sometimes answering ALL that email that comes over the net. And I am starting to realize that our tenure with all of those activities will be coming to a close this year!!! I can not believe that the time has moved so swiftly, and that after May 2000 I will not have a ready excuse to drop everything and make a quick trip to Annapolis. Maybe my son will do TDA there! That would be nice.. There is something so comforting and connective about being a part of the USNA family. I do plan to stay active with our Parents group but it will not be the same. I will miss these days!!! But I am so proud that our sons and daughters have made the committment and accomplished so much. Now, it's one more AC year and they will have truly set their destinys! Dindy Liebert SPPA Peter 00/25 *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA26386 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:01:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:21:08 -0400 From: Some Cully To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: [Fwd: Re: usna-net: Firstie's Weekend] Content-Disposition: inline Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:20:42 -0400 From: Some Cully To: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Subject: Re: usna-net: Firstie's Weekend References: Firstie Parents' Weekend info normally is out by this time but there has been a delay this year and Presidents of Clubs have been advised that the mailings will be out shortly. The events basically take place on fri. and then there is the game on sat. - then it is up to you to create a memorable time. Last year, as pres.of our Club, I was fortunate to start the weekend early by attending the Parents' Club Officers Conference (starting at 7 AM and lasting until 4PM)on the Thursday before the Weekend starts. The conference ended with a lovely dinner at the crew boat house and if your mid was a firstie, they were invited to attend the dinner with you. You also have the chance to shop the Mid Store before the crowds - it is empty! If you are a Club President, obviously it is best to go down the Wed. night before. Those of you whose sons/daughters are not yet firsties - take note of the benefits of being a Pres. in your mid's firstie year - esp. at Commissioning time. On Friday, you DO NOT attend breakfast with the brigade but you do meet them very early and go to any/all classes with your firstie. Our son insisted that we attend each and every class ( major- naval architecture) so we could suffer as he does with the complex courses! We did - there were other activities going on, eg. Supt.'s address to Parents, but we had heard it all the day before at the Officers' Conference and our son really wanted us to be with him. Following his schedule and going to all the classes gave me a new appreciation of the difficulty of the course work and a new admiration of our son's achievements. You DO go to King Hall for lunch with the brigade - it was expected of all firsties to be there. If you have never eaten with the ENTIRE brigade, this is another peek into their lives on the Yard. Although still a short, quick lunch so that they can hustle to their next class (our son's major still required him to take 21 credits, not counting his labs) there was still time to enjoy the shenanigans that the plebes planned, like dressing in handmade costumes, singing etc. You get to see that members of the brigade laugh a lot on their way to class, in class etc. - the idea of a sober, strict no-fun atmosphere goes out the window, spirits are high! You can go up to see their room if you want - only the 2nd time and last time to do this. After friday's classes are over and after whatever sport practice your firstie engages in, the time is yours with your mid (parents of the Off-Shore Varsity Sailing team were taken out on a sailboat - it was super!). Of course, there is a football game on Sat. and your firstie marches over and then can sit with you if you ordered tickets and filled in the pertinent info on your mid on the order form in the firstie parents' weekend form. Many firsties alternated between their friends in the company seating area and their parents. After the game, there are company tailgates - our son invited us to all of his because he was the person in charge of them - very convenient for us. One of our son's room-mate's parents run the Flag House Inn, located right outside the Visitor's Gate. Five sets of firstie parents stayed there - we were connected by our sons' friendship through the four years. On Friday & Sat. evening, we all went out to dinner, joined by another set of parents (advance planning and reservations were required of course) and partied back at the Inn - then the Firsties took us out on a pub tour. On Sunday, after Church, all of us went to Brunch at Harry Browne's - again advance reservations had to made and again we partied back at the Inn. This worked out so well because the mids were the ones who organized this with the help of the Flag House Inn mom. What a blast we had!! Celebrating and sharing this weekend with my son's friends and their parents and all of us staying together at the Flag House made this a weekend that went well above what Firstie Parents Weekend promised. Having a group of firsties together during a wonderful weekend prompts them to recite numerous adventures and tales that never would have been heard! There was so much laughter amongst mids and parents. I have had parents in my Club go down and spend it quietly and alone by themselves with their firstie but wishing later that they had done some advance planning to share time with their mid's closest friends and their parents. May I suggest that now is the time to have your son/daughter get the ball rolling - have them talk it over with their friends and make plans, get their friends' parents' e-mail addresses, telephone #'s - make contact. Parents seem ready and willing to meet and be with their son's/daughter's friends - it gives them a huge insight to how their sons/daughters hare developed. The firsties are well beyond the point that they need your sole attention and they are ready to celebrate!! Fly Navy, Kathy Cully *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA26881 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:18:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:26:57 -0400 From: Sum1rite To: McFadden , USNA parents list server Subject: usna-net: answers to ?'s References: <004901bed982$1dfabca0$eecd2599@default> hi renee- thanks for writing me, and if you get any pics of brian at parents weekend i would love to have a copy. i tried to give him a disposable camera to take pics of his plebes and he sternly told me it was "not appropriate behavior for officers" they get very grownup there. re: cruise and summer blocks. the summer is divided into three blocks. cruise assignments come out in May. that is probably the most notice you will get. all plebes have to take the yp cruise. if they fail a class they have mandatory summer school. this sounds bad, but sometimes it is better for them to fail than get a 'd'. when they take it in summer school it becomes an 'a' or a 'b', and it significantly raises their gpa. most plebes get 5 weeks. alot take a class in summer school for 3 weeks so their academic load is easier youngster year. they have 25 credit hours usually in contrast to their college counterpart friends. plus their military duties. it is very stressful. brian did not actually have 5 weeks this year. he got off cruise the end of june and went back to do detail on july 19. he was going to do a summer school stint (as was our daughter) but they both gave up their summer school as it was at the same time. it was their last summer together. once they are out in the fleet - there is no guarantee of leave time etc. there is also 'dead week'. the week before commisioning week. sometimes the mids come home, sometimes the academy offers other options. brian did a one week sub cruise once during that time. other kids take scuba quals and other things. some go home for a week. they go back for commisioning week - they all have to do parades and be at graduation. it is all for one and one for all, there. did you know that most of bancroft is now air conditioned but they won't turn it on until all the wings have a/c? they all suffer together. you also must keep in mind that the us navy owns your child. not you anymore. that was hard for me to realize. that is what that oath on i-day means. do not try to plan too much. one of my son's sponsor brothers was in a car accident over a spring break, the navy showed up at the hospital and airlifted him to bethesda hospital the next day. his parents would have liked to supervise his medical care but he was government property - so i write this to prepare you. in navy tradition of honoring families i will say they shipped his mom out with him. that is another reason why i love the academy - they do stuff like this. well, renee, i hope you don't mind but it took me a bit to write this and i am going to put it out on the net for everybody cause there is a lot of info which other people might like to read. btw, here in new jersey we have a plebe whose parents are not in country at this time.. i don't think anyone will visit him for ppw either. he flew to annapolis and was alone on i-day. he is a very cheerful mid - very motivated. he came to the plebe picnic alone. i just thought if anyone from alpha company might want to take him to dinner or something in case his family does not show up - we here would appreciate it. barbara ahr, our parents president is working on some other things for him. in case anyone wants to send him some mail, his po box is : midn. 4/C omar choudhury class of 2003 po box 0004 annapolis, md 21412-0004 sorry for such a long answer, but sometimes it is more helpful to cover all the bases at once. as i was signing off i noticed that you are from washington state. i noticed that there was a lot of chatter about airline tickets, etc. you might find that your son will go home for thanksgiving or other weekends with classmates who live closer to the academy. the september of the first year brian was a mid i entertained several members of thedrum and bugle corps. (after the rutgers home game the new jersey parents club took all the d&b'rs home so they did not have to stay in the barracks at ft. dix) one boy from texas came again at thanksgiving. it ain't great to be in mother b over thanksgiving, so a lot of kids go other places. we always have from 1-4 extras here at thanksgiving. two years ago, after the navy/army game at meadowlands i had 25 sleep over and fed about 50 mids. mostly from 9th company, but a lot of plebes. we drove the plebes back to the buses after the game (1AM). it was loads of fun. they went into my closets and attic and took out civilian clothes and all went out to play pool and go bowling. they ate 3 pot roasts, 3 hams, numerous salads, a turkey, numerous desserts etc. they slept two in single beds, on the floors, on airbeds, in sleeping bags, etc. it was wall to wall mids. they are very flexible. half of them stayed up all night and played the guitar. when they left on sunday morning to drive back they all had sandwiches and took all the leftovers. i never had a nicer bunch of houseguests in my entire life. they left my house as clean as they found it. all i had to do was wash my entire family's wardrobe. they sent us a huge thanks card and i just loved every one of them. they all come to our new jersey tailgate and say hi to me. they say "remember me? i slept under the dining room table." it's been great chatting with you all - again. i am getting to be a regular. anne goscinski McFadden wrote: > Dear Anne, > Thank you for the informative list you've shared on the net. I've made a > list and will be at Costco and Target before the week is out . Our son, > Ramin is in Echo company so I felt there is the connection of your son being > his detailer as we speak and wanted to just drop you a line to just say > hello. He is doing well. This net has been a blessing for me. Quick > question for you---did your son have the 5 weeks at home in "one lump sum" > and how much notice was he given on his vacation time? Best regards, > Renee McFadden - bmcfadden@msn.com > Redmond, WA (Ramin 03/09) *** USNA-NET post by: GOSCINSKI Rose A 01-18 PUSKAS Brian 00-9 GOSCINSKI Ann and Ed ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA29103 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:10:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Laurenrich@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:19:51 EDT Subject: usna-net: Firstie Parents' Weekend To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Last year, on the Friday of Firstie Parents' Weekend, we attended classes, had lunch in King Hall, attended the Formal Parade and the Pep rally on City Dock for the Saturday football game. On Saturday, we toured our Mid's company area in Bancroft Hall, met his company officer and senior chief, visited the ship in the harbor, marched with the Brigade over to the football stadium (you don't have to march, but we didn't want to miss ANYTHING), attended the football game against Kent State. Sunday is a more open day. We went to chapel, then spent the day with our Mid's roommates and their families. It's a great weekend. Some parents have told us it's the best visit they made to the Academy. We're not sure. Commissioning Week is hard to top. Have a blast. Lauren Rich Sandy, Utah Jeremy '99 *** USNA-NET post by: RICH Lauren 99 Jeremy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA02733 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:27:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:40:32 -0400 From: Joan and Greg Chlan To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: firstie weekend Hi Parents of Class of '00 Mids! On the Friday night of Firstie weekend, there is a Mens'/Womens' Glee Club performance in Alumni Hall (at least, there has been since our mids entered the academy in '96!). If you have never been to a Glee Club concert, perhaps you would enjoy including this in your plans. It is the first public appearance of the yr. for the new members of Glee Club from Class of '03. We are amazed each yr. with the amt. of material and the quality of the music our mids produce after being together as a group from the Brigade reforming in mid-Aug.-till the concert less than a month later.Although the "plebe hack" may be heard occasionally between selections (from upperclass detailers,as well as the plebes!);the music is wonderful! Greg and Joan Chlan Richmond VA (Kevin '00/2nd company Mens Glee Club/Barbershop Quartet) *** USNA-NET post by: CHLAN Kevin A. 00-2 CHLAN Greg and Joan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA03235 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:45:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Privacy Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:54:21 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... RE: One of our Rules of Operation: Personal information regarding Midshipmen should not be broadcast without the permission of the individual Midshipman concerned. Midshipmen are adults and they have a right to privacy. This applies to any name or personal information, whether a Midshipman or a Parent. This is a PRIVACY issue. PLEASE, if you have not already done so, read the Rules of Operation for the Listserver http://www.navy-usna.org/rules.html will take you directly to the Rules. This sort of violation will result in posting restrictions. Thank you, Sandi Zets Co-Moderator USNA-Net www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA03611 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:57:58 -0500 (CDT) From: DCA01@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:07:08 EDT Subject: usna-net: Firstie's Weekend To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Parents' Club Conference is Sept 16 Firstie's Weekend is 17-19 Sept If you order football tickets for Sat., mention that you have a Firstie and you will be given a ticket so that your Mid may sit with you. Only if you mention this will you get the ticket. GO NAVY Nancy *** USNA-NET post by: AUBEL Erik 00-12 AUBEL Nancy and Dave ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA03620 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:57:59 -0500 (CDT) From: DCA01@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:07:16 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Firstie's Weekend To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Will you be going to the conference? My husband and I are co-pres and I've learned quite a bit from last year's firsties, but still want to take advantage of everything. I'm greedy in that this is the end and I don't want to miss a thing. Do know the following: 1. When ordering tickets for the Sat game, ask for a ticket for you Mid so that s/he may sit with you. 2. Go to classes with your Mid. I know I won't understand a thing but it will be fun. 3. Think you can eat breakfast and lunch in King Hall. 4. Tours of the rooms are permissible. 5. New 2000 t-shirts will be available with the updated list of those in the class. Know there is lots more. Pass around anything that you hear - rumors can always be checked out. Am not sure I'll always get the straight forward from my son who just can't wait to have mom and dad sitting in class...... GO NAVY Nancy Erik '00/12 Dayton, Ohio *** USNA-NET post by: AUBEL Erik 00-12 AUBEL Nancy and Dave ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA06145 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:22:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:33:26 -0500 From: woodmont@edge.net (Phillip L. Patterson) To: USNA-Net Subject: usna-net: Library for seating, A/C Dear Families, On several occasions during the past three years, we have found the library to be "closed to visitors". This may not be the case for parents weekend but the mids have town liberty anyhow. We found this restriction often in effect during Ac. year Sundays and federal holiday Mondays. We enjoy a library environment but often had to settle for Dalgren, the visitors center (has a few seats), the car (running with a/c on) and the main ballroom of Bancroft Hall. Occasionally there will be other buildings, as well, but we have usually missed our favorite - the library. Good Luck! Go Navy! Teresa and Phillip Patterson Alan, '00/19 Craig, '02/10 Joseph, '03/F, Beast Barracks, W.P. (military trivia: unlike the other statues, that of General Patton directly faces the West Point library; it seems he rarely visited it graduating near the bottom of his class) *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Craig E. 02-10 - Alan A. 00-19 PATTERSON Phillip and Teresa ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA06988 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:46:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:54:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: Some Cully cc: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: usna-net: Firstie's Weekend] REPLY In-Reply-To: <37A07164.4D79@warwick.net> Please remember,JVD usually has a big "do", for his mids and their families. Our firstie week, we had a roasted pig, crabs at al. For all other 'rents, please find out if your mid's sponsor has anything planned. peace and hugs.....Jo Oliver John '97 Long Island NY *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA08171 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:25:05 -0500 (CDT) From: WJ4MKL@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:34:04 EDT Subject: usna-net: More Army-Navy Stats To: usna-net@navy-usna.org The Navy Men's Swim Team has won all Army-Navy swim meets for the past 9 years! Marilyn Litchfield Brian 01/25 Go Navy! *** USNA-NET post by: LITCHFIELD Brian J. 01-26 LITCHFIELD Bill and Marilyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA08978 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:53:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Stamperhog@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:02:49 EDT Subject: Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: usna-net: Firstie's Weekend] REPLY To: joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us, cullfam@warwick.net CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org In a message dated 7/29/99 2:02:42 PM, joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote: << Please remember,JVD usually has a big "do", for his mids and their families. Our firstie week, we had a roasted pig, crabs at al. >> Who, or WHAT is JVD, pls???? Lynn Bensy *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA27283 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:41:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:01:15 -0400 From: Some Cully To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: [Fwd: NAVAL ACADEMY ANNOUNCES 1999-2000 BASKETBALL SCHEDULE] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------57476033172 Basketball Navy fans - you can start planning now! Kathy Cully --------------57476033172 Content-Disposition: inline by host.warwick.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00112 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:44:17 -0400 (EDT) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for cullfam@warwick.net id 119vC7-0000rH-00; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:46:19 -0400 id MLC98VDC; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:46:00 -0400 From: AlumUSNA To: Subject: NAVAL ACADEMY ANNOUNCES 1999-2000 BASKETBALL SCHEDULE Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:46:19 -0400 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by host.warwick.net id OAA00112 COLLEGE BASKETBALL - THURSDAY JULY 29 NAVAL ACADEMY ANNOUNCES 1999-2000 BASKETBALL SCHEDULE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Pete Rhoda (410) 293-4517, ext. 109 NAVY WILL PLAY 17 HOME GAMES IN 1999-2000 ANNAPOLIS, Md. -Navy fans will have plenty of opportunities to see the Midshipmen in Alumni Hall this season, as coach Don DeVoe's team will play 17 home games in 1999-2000. After opening the season at Rice Nov. 19, the Mids return home to face perennial Atlantic Coast Conference power Wake Forest Nov. 22 at 7:30 p.m. The Wake Forest game kicks off a four-game homestand for Navy, which welcomes Richmond (Nov. 24, 7:30 p.m.), Air Force (Nov. 27, 7:30 p.m.) and Coast Guard (Nov. 29, 7:30 p.m.) to Alumni Hall. Slated to finish second in the Patriot League according to the Preseason Coaches Poll, the Midshipmen are also scheduled to make three regional television appearances this winter. As part of the league's television package, Home Team Sports will carry Navy's Jan. 16 game at Lafayette and the Jan. 23 contest at Holy Cross (both starting at 4 p.m.), while CBS-TV will air the Feb. 26 game at Army. With nearly 75 percent of the scoring and rebounding back from last year's 20-7 club, DeVoe eagerly anticipates his eighth season in Annapolis. He is busy preparing his players for a seven-game European tour Aug. 7-17. "I feel as though this is the most difficult schedule we've faced since I've been here," DeVoe said. "But based on the experience and success we've had recently, we're up to the challenge." 1999-2000 SCHEDULE Nov. 1 Court Authority (Exhibition) 7:30 p.m. Nov. 8 Team Champion (Exhibition) 7:30 p.m. Nov. 19 at Rice TBA Nov. 22 Wake Forest 7:30 p.m. Nov. 24 Richmond 7:30 p.m. Nov. 27 Air Force 7:30 p.m. Nov. 29 U.S. Coast Guard 7:30 p.m. Dec. 2 at Northeastern TBA Dec. 4 at Harvard TBA Dec. 6 Denver 7:30 p.m. Dec. 23 at SMU TBA Dec. 28 Gettysburg 7:30 p.m. Dec. 30 Belmont 7:30 p.m. Jan. 3 UMBC 7:30 p.m. Jan. 5 Liberty 7:30 p.m. Jan. 12 at Bucknell* TBA Jan. 16 at Lafayette* (HTS) TBA Jan. 23 at Holy Cross* (HTS) TBA Jan. 26 Army* 7:30 p.m. Jan. 29 Lehigh* 3 p.m. Jan. 31 William & Mary 7:30 p.m. Feb. 2 at Colgate* TBA Feb. 5 Bucknell* 3 p.m. Feb. 9 Lafayette* 7:30 p.m. Feb. 12 Stony Brook 3 p.m. Feb. 14 Colgate* 7:30 p.m. Feb. 19 Holy Cross* 3 p.m. Feb. 23 at Lehigh* TBA Feb. 26 at Army* (CBS-TV) TBA March 4-5 Patriot League Tourney (at Lafayette) TBA * - Patriot League game; (HTS) - Televised by Home Team Sports; (CBS-TV) - Televised by CBS; All Times Are Eastern --------------57476033172-- *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA11263 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:10:47 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Midshipman Privacy Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:15:21 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... STOP !!! Earlier today, a member requested that we send notes, letters or messages to a Midshipman whose parents are out of the country. DO NOT DO THIS !!! This request was a gross violation of our Rules of Operation in regards to PRIVACY! The requesting member has been removed from this Listserver . The situation is being handled by the Midshipman's State Parents' Club and the Academy. Do not violate this Midshipman's right to privacy by responding to the former member's request!! I expect all members of our Listservers to read and abide by our Rules of Operation AND to adhere to the instructions and requests of the Moderator. Violations of our rules are always a serious matter and may be dealt with severely as the situation warrants. Again, DO NOT SEND ANYTHING TO THIS MID !! Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA15145 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:36:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:43:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: Stamperhog@aol.com cc: cullfam@warwick.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: usna-net: Firstie's Weekend] REPLY AGAIN In-Reply-To: <4aaacfbd.24d20d69@aol.com> JVD is a very generous man, who for the past 20+ years has been an unofficial (because he is out of the area) sponsor to a minimum of at least 15+ mids each year. He is very well known by the officials at USNA. He knows everything about everything the mids go through and is a father to many. The man will be 60 tomorrow and has been retiring for the past 8 years. Now the new word is the retirement will be in 2 years. Every football game he has a talegate, every commissioning he has a party. When he renovated his waterfront home, he put 9 racks up stairs and showers and bathroom facilities. Mids who are there bring new mids in. His home is decorated with pictures of mids he helped who have graduated. When there is a firstie or plebe weekend, he sends a large packet to all the 'rents and it contains pages of resturants, hotels, helpful hints. He has very few requirements: you wear a shirt to the table, give thanks before a meal, and attend your religious services every week. He arranges for the mids to get to and from the yard, and the airport and his home. While being a mid in his home they have an opportunity to use all the facilities at his home. Whenhe renovated his kitchen he put in 2 oversized refigerators, one keeps the staple foods and the other meats for the weekend. The mids are just asked to clean up after themselves and they do. All he asks in return is respect for each other and the rules stated above. John has everything down to a science. He has rolls of brown paper to put on his several picnic tables and a bushel full of mallets for the crabs he serves on 'rents weekends. He serves a minimum of 25 people at thanksgiving. He is a gem among gems. Every year the mids give him a big gift for his birthday on August 1,for Christmas,and for commissioning. One year they bought him a tent for the tailgates, I believe this year they may give him an ice maker. This man NEVER asks the mids to pay for any utilities or food or anything else. In his household, I am known by the mids as Momma Jo as I hate the title Mrs. , especially since I am no longer. I used the initials as all of us who are in his mid family know the initials and about him. Now all of you know about him and his generosity. One time my (know it all teenager) visited his brother with me. JVD was kind enough to allow me to use the extra bedroom as long as his mom or sister were not visiting. He informed us that Mass was in the morning. Snot nose (the teen) said to him, ( and I wanted to hang him from the rafters right then and there)"Mr. VD there are 2 things I do not do. One is I do not get up early on a sunday and the other is I do not go to church." JVD said nothing except, "OK Vin". The next morning we were all awakened by the sound of loud gospel music! :-) peace and hugs.....Jo Oliver John '97 Long Island NY *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA21159 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:54:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "USNANET" Cc: "Todd J. Patterson" Subject: usna-net: YP's Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:00:20 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 YEA!!!!!! Thanks to Mike and Sandi and the Baycam, I just watched the YP's go in for Pass in Review! I could not be there in person, but I loved watching it "live"!!!! Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA25988 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:41:37 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "USNANET" Subject: usna-net: cam's Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:37:40 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 OK, I think I can explain. When you go to the little picture of the black movie camera on the USNA-net site.( the one Mike and Sandi Zets set up). Click on the picture, then the Annapolis Harbor will come up. Down the left side of that page you will see a list of "cam sites". The FIRST one is BAYCAM, then BAYCAM II and so on. Still with me?? OK, what you are seeing is BAYCAM II. Go to the left side list and click on BAYCAM. The picture will be at the bottom with a dock, sometimes people walking on that dock and there is a bouy(channel marker?) in the water and the water. On a clear day you can see the shore on the opposite side of this view. It appears to be very hazy today so there is just water in the distance. There was a LOT of activity earlier and just an occasional sailboat now. The picture is "still" but it changes every 4 to 6 seconds so the items seem to jump from place to place. I sure hope I have made this clear, I am not THAT sharp with a computer!! Good luck!!!!!!!!! I loved this beyond words this morning!!! I could not be there, but I really felt like I was!! Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA09673 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:29:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "USNANET" Subject: usna-net: YP's Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:25:32 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 My Mid just called from his "home away from home" near Annapolis. He said the YP was great. He loved Boston and enjoyed going to a movie and comedy club there. In NYC he and some Mids got a private tour of the MTV studios, another Comedy Club, Les Miserables, extras on the film set of a new Al Pacino movie, a walk in Central Park AND Mc Donald's. He said they cleaned the YP boat most of the time and stood watch. He was on watch the night JFK's plane crashed and were notified by the Coast Guard to be on the look out for a red aircraft(or pieces of one) or possibly a flare. It was a day before they knew who's plane it was. Make sure the "new" Youngsters on the next YP cruise know to head to the USO when they port, they have lots of tickets and things for the MIds. Have them always inquire as to discounts for military personal. Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA25398 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:43:27 -0500 (CDT) From: DCA01@aol.com Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:42:43 EDT Subject: usna-net: First Rumor To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I may be the bearer of wrong information - first rumor to check out... Is breakfast available to parents for Firstie's Weekend??? Have heard both ways... Someone set me straight. Nancy Aubel Erik '00/12 Dayton, OH *** USNA-NET post by: AUBEL Erik 00-12 AUBEL Nancy and Dave ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA06083 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:05:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:01:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: kencat@telis.org To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: Kent & Catherine Heaton Subject: usna-net: 3rd Phone on time For all interested in the phone call timeline. Neal actually called 5 minutes before his scheduled time, so they started promptly and hope they stay on schedule. On the personal side, he's happy to have the cast off, swimming without a bag over his hand and doing pushups now (broke his hand the third day, going into the wall while swimming, something he's done thousands of times as a swimmer!) Sounded relaxed, although Alpha inspection is still to come today. Guess the second set of detailers are a little tougher than the first, no surprise there. He seems to be in the groove and says it's still the place for him. Hope you all get your calls on time, looking forward to PPW! Go Navy, Kent Heaton Neal '03, N-26 *** USNA-NET post by: HEATON Neal D 03-26 HEATON Kent and Catherine ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA09952 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:04:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:14:24 -0400 From: Some Cully To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: first rumors Dear Nancy & all, Someone who attended Firstie Parents Weekend in '96 and readily admitted that the memory was blurry, wrote that parents attended breakfast during this weekend. I attended Firstie Parents Weekend in '98, and I wrote that parenst DO NOT attend breakfast in King Hall. In regard to Nancy's question and too check my accuracy, I called my son (TDA on the Yard) and he firmly answered that parents DO NOT attend breakfast in King Hall during that friday of Firstie Parents Weekend and firsties DO NOT have the option of skipping lunch that day in King Hall as was alluded to in another posting. Room visits are on Sat. His best advice to parents is to wait until you get the official mailing from the Academy that will tell you everything you need to know about THIS year's weekend. my best to the parents of '00, Kathy Cully *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA14125 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:56:53 -0500 (CDT) From: RAmes50695@aol.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:56:16 EDT Subject: usna-net: PPW Questions To: usna-net@navy-usna.org To All, I have a couple of questions for you with experience and knowledge out there in Navy cylberland: 1) What time do the mids usually attend Mass in the Chapel on Sunday. We have made reservations for the 10 am brunch at the Officers Club and have a feeling I may have to try to change them if that is the time Mids attend Mass. I also noted in the PPW handbook that there is a Catholic Mass in the Chapel at noon on Sunday. Isn't that the time they are required to be in the noon Meal Formation? 2) Is there any way we can find out how the noon meal formation forms up so we will be in the appropriate place to see our mids on Friday? (Facing Bancroft, is it even platoons on the left and odd on the right.........or vice versa........or???? Thanks again to all of you who so selflessly and patiently read and answer our questions and who have supported us through this "soon to be over" summer! Judy Ames Erin Borozny03/17 *** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA17337 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:17:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:27:42 -0400 From: Some Cully To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: re: PPW Dear Judy & All, Re : qustions 1. The Catholic Mass is at 9AM and the priests as military chaplains are well aware of the time constraints - we have attended Mass there many, many times over the four years, including the holidays and we were always out by 10 AM. 2. During the week, there is a noon mass in St.Andrew's Chapel, located in the basement of the Chapel building. I attend that when I'm down and there are no mids there, but civilians. During the Ac year, there is a Mass (maybe this summer )at 7 PM in Mitscher Hall - VERY informal, low-keyed and really just geared for mids. I believe my son did not have to wear a specified uniform, just navy issued items (warm-up suits etc) 3. During noon formations, when you face Bancroft Hall, the even companies are on the right - and odd companies are on the left. Fly Navy, Kathy Cully Campbell Hall, NY *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA25224 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:29:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: 31 Jul 99 17:29:02 EDT From: Betty To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: site for military families X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by westpoint.west-point.org id QAA25219 Don't know how many people have seen this site; sure wish I'd known about it during Lisa's military days! http://www.sgtmoms.com/ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 *** USNA-NET post by: WINSLOW Betty and Mark ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA00145 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:33:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:52:03 +0000 Subject: usna-net: questions From: David Major To: usna-net I know that this has been asked and answered but I'm having trouble getting into the archives so sorry, what size of flag are they supposed to have in their rooms? thanks for all the info Deanna Major *** USNA-NET post by: MAJOR David William 03 MAJOR Bill and Deanna ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA01128 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:08:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Geezergear@aol.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:07:57 EDT Subject: usna-net: welcome aboard 2003 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org all of you have heard it a thousand times already, but congratulations to you and your mid! USNA is a very special place for very special people who will serve in the greatest navy in the world. If your Mid wasn't an exceptional individual he/she wouldn't be there in the first place!! There will be times THEY need to be reminded of that! :) Every year is a tough year, but one thing at a time-hope all are doing well in Plebe Summer. Don't be concerned about the "illnesses", and anticipate some more when the Brigade reforms. The Mids have been all around the world and almost everyone suffers some minor illnesses shortly after "Reform", and it is generally no worse than the "Plebe Hack". Don't expect your new Mid to talk about what a wonderful place USNA is; now or very many times over the next 4 years. Most don't want to be any other place, but it IS hard to say you "love" a place that is so demanding! That will come later!! (Read Nightengale's Song, Philo; get a copy of the video "For Honor and Glory"-it is not so much about Navy football as it is about THE Academy, what it is about, what it means) I have read so much good advice about PPW (most applies ANYTIME you are there), and seen many good things from bettywinslow; heed them all, and be especially appreciative of those sponsor families!!! Know (if you don't already) that Mids refer to us as "Civilian Nasties"-be on time, be sharp, etc. THEY ARE! Love and luck to all! GO NAVY! *** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Greg ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA04381 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:42:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Jhb317@aol.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:41:52 EDT Subject: usna-net: YP To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello, Is there any information about YPs? There is info about sailing, but I have not been able to find anything about YPs. Thanks, Carol Bringhurst 02/19 Josh Ltwt Crew TX *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA14666 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:38:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:34:25 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all... RE: <<> All Summer Cruise Schedules may be found at... http://prodevweb.prodev.usna.edu/IMIS/SUMMER/dates.htm Once the Boats are underway, you may track them by Global Positioning Satellite at... http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/boats.html Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike