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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA20265
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 07:46:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 08:45:17 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: FLAG
To: majord@mindspring.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Our son requested a "flying flag" to avoid a "mutiny."  I sent a 3X5, which 
he put on his bulletin board.  I don't think size is an issue, however.  I 
have heard of others who sent 4X6, or whatever.  I believe it just needs to 
be clearly visible!

:)

*** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy <amysoule@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA26384
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:59:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geezergear@aol.com
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:58:19 EDT
Subject: usna-net: brief/reef points
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

it has been suggested you new guys get "brief points"; get plebe's "reef 
points" too (in the midstore)  try doing your rates while ur boss is giving 
you 2 or 3 new assignments, try memorizing all the info to be repeated on 
demand while you are running thru the grocery store, etc.  Just like
parents NOT associated with USNA can't u'stand what u go thru, WE can only 
TRY to understand what the Mids go thru!
Hate to hear confindentialities may have been passed to u'class-it does point 
out one of the greatest goals of a Plebe-to remain anonymous! don't help them 
attract unwanted/unneeded attention-ever!

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Greg <Geezergear@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA01845
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:38:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: ADMIN NOTE - Please read!!!
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:36:59 -0400
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To all USNA-Net users...

(I took a long time to put this together.  Please read it all.)

Now that the excitement has died down and the third Plebe calls have been
received, it's time for your Moderator to share a few words on the KEY
issues of the past few days.  No lecture.  I promise.

There has been an awful lot of traffic both on and "off" the List about Mids
having access to our messages, Parents sharing info with their Upper-Class
Mids, and so on.  As Moderator, it is my responsibility to enforce our
rules.  Every one of these rules is there for a reason.

But let's all exercise a little COMMON SENSE.

With the influx of sooooo many new members over the past two months (about
300 new families in eight weeks), is it any wonder that there is some
confusion.  By now "most" of you know not to send attachments, not to use
Rich Text Format, not to post the same message to BOTH lists, etc.  If you
don't know these things, please see our Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
Page on the web site.  But there remains the issue of PRIVACY and public
access by non-members to our Lists.

We are a closed list and by definition our messages are only available
through membership.  The first thing this insures is that your membership is
not public knowledge.  Even other members of our List do not know who you
are unless you post a message or publicize personal information in a
posting.  (The signature line appended to each message is necessary for our
system to handle the re-transmission of messages.  And it only contains the
bare minimum of info.)

The next thing being a closed list does for all of us is that it allows a
degree of control over the operation of the Lists.  By agreeing to abide by
our rules, a member accepts the personal responsibility for the contents of
their postings.  Are rules are nothing more than an extension of good ol'
common sense.  When you post a message to the List you should remember that
hundreds of other members will read it.

No message should ever contain material that isn't supposed to be seen by
ALL of the members.  You wouldn't want someone talking about your Mid in a
negative manner.  You wouldn't want to hear that Johnny did this "bad thing"
or that Mary said "this or that" about her Detailer.  After all, isn't this
really a form of gossip?  I know it's hard to refrain from complaining over
our Lists about life at the Yard but that's NOT what these Lists are
intended to accomplish.  We're here to help each other, share advise, answer
questions and generally make life more livable as a Navy Parent.  Think of
the countless other parents out there without the benefit of our Lists.

The point here is that we should make every effort to keep our postings
factually accurate and free of things that might have ANY negative impact on
our own or any other Mid at the Yard.  If we all did this, all of the time,
it wouldn't matter who read our messages.  WE NAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.  We're
not a closed society with deep, dark secrets.

If you find something of interest to share with Grandpa or Cousin Martha, go
ahead and share it.  If your Mid would find a certain story funny, go ahead
and share it.  Just use your head and think before you start (or continue)
to spread gossip.  That should take care of 99% of the questionable stuff
right then and there.

Lastly, there is the PRIVACY issue as it applies to Midshipmen.  Again,
common sense should prevail.  A Mid is "IN THE NAVY" and not just away at
college.  He/she is to be treated with all of the dignity and respect
deserving of any other adult in our society.  He shouldn't have to worry
about "mommy or daddy" telling tales "out of school" on our lists about what
he is doing.  He shouldn't find hundreds of unsolicited emails in his inbox
because some well intended stranger thought he might be lonely and need the
reading material or because it's his birthday.

And for sure, your Mid shouldn't have to worry about getting in trouble
because of what his/her parents are doing or saying on these Lists.  Share
your stories about your Mid's successes.  Let the whole world know how much
you miss him.  Just remember that there are a lot of people listening in
every time you hit the send button.  AND no one has complete control over
what a member might do with your message.

SIDE NOTE ON BIRTHDAY GREETINGS...
When these lists began over a year ago, there were only 70 or so members and
the tradition of posting information about an upcoming Mid birthday (while a
violation of our "Call to Action" rule) was generally allowed and a very
nice thing to do.  I'm sure it was great for a Mid to get a couple of dozen
electronic birthday greetings to mark the special day when he/she was so far
from home.

Now we number over 500 members and that HAS TO CHANGE.  A Mid is too busy to
open his/her mailbox and find HUNDREDS of messages from parents who are not
his own.  The Mids use email to receive IMPORTANT information from
Professors and the Academy about class assignments, schedule changes, etc.
and shouldn't have to wade through all of the notes, letters, and greeting
cards to find out that his class was moved and he's already late.  Also,
most Mids are extremely well mannered after a while at the Yard and will
feel obligated to acknowledge each and every one of them with a note of
thanks.  They don't have the time to do this.  What started out as a
beautiful gesture can now easily escalate into a huge problem for your Mid.

If you want to surprise your Mid with a special note from those members that
are within your circle of friends inside our Lists, by all means... go ahead
and ask a handful to send off a note or card.  Just don't ask 500+ strangers
to load up your Mid's mailbox.  I hope you all understand.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org




*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike <mzets@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA03887
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:03:34 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 11:08:22 -0700
From: Susan Lemerande <lemonade@ivic.net>
To: Naval Academy Parents <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: [Fwd: HELLO EVERYONE]

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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This was sent out yesterday, Saturday, but returned for some unknown
reason.  Maybe it'll get to you all this time ...........
(Mike said it may have hit a cyber speed bump.  Not sure.)

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:38:23 -0700
From: Susan Lemerande <lemonade@ivic.net>
To: Naval Academy Parents <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: HELLO EVERYONE

Well, our little five-week adventure of having Ted at home was great but
all-too-soon came to a close.  He is now back at Bancroft for the night,
then off to Georgia for an 18-day underwater adventure aboard a nuclear
submarine.

He assured me as we walked through the airline terminal early this
morning that there was nothing to worry about -- that only two nukes
have been lost in U.S. history and both those were lost during testing
or some other such event.  Then he went on to explain that, with such a
history of safety, if something DID happen to it I'd hear about it
immediately since it would be such big news and also because he would
then go down in history.  I was not comforted by his words.

Hoping not to embarrass anyone, I would like to publicly thank Randy
Stokes who, if you remember last week's postings, made a blanket offer
to any mid who needed airport transportation.  Well, since Ted's cruise
got changed and changed and changed, his airport ride plans fell apart.
The folks who had long ago planned to collect him from BWI and return
him to Bancroft could no longer assist.  I, being shy and reserved
(not!), simply asked Randy if she really meant what she said, she
affirmed, and Ted was delivered safe and sound to the Yard this evening
by Mrs. Stokes.  Even after his plane was delayed (heck, it made four
stops as it traversed our fine country!) in Chicago and arrived in
Baltimore 30 minutes late she STILL waited for him.  Thank you, Randy.

And thank you, all, for being the great parents that you are to all
these fine midshipmen.  I am so proud of every one of them and you for
making them who they are.

Best regards,

Susan


Ted/'01/17th/varsity lacrosse


--
            A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that
                is in your heart, chaff and grain together,
             knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it,
                     keep only what is worth keeping,
           and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away.

                                    -----

                                              Susan Lemerande
                                              lemonade@ivic.net



--------------2482A8DD88ABEB07935B718F--


*** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan <lemonade@ivic.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA04202
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:14:11 -0500 (CDT)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:04:00 -0400
Subject: usna-net: AC year class schedules
X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-3
X-Juno-Att: 0
From: Barbara A Lahnen <barbsmail3@juno.com>

Can anyone answer this:  When do the Plebes find out their AC schedules?
Also:  What effect, if any,  does validating a course have on their AC
schedules?
arbara Lahnen Jax Fl   
Will  03/11
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA04569
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:29:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: REPOST of MESSAGE
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:28:39 -0400
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To all...

Susan's message fell out of the system through no fault of hers.  The cyber
gremlins were at work again.  I'm reposting it now.

====================================================
Well, our little five-week adventure of having Ted at home was great but
all-too-soon came to a close.  He is now back at Bancroft for the night,
then off to Georgia for an 18-day underwater adventure aboard a nuclear
submarine.

He assured me as we walked through the airline terminal early this morning
that there was nothing to worry about -- that only two nukes have been lost
in U.S. history and both those were lost during testing or some other such
event.  Then he went on to explain that, with such a history of safety, if
something DID happen to it I'd hear about it immediately since it would be
such big news and also because he would then go down in history.  I was not
comforted by his words.

Hoping not to embarrass anyone, I would like to publicly thank Randy Stokes
who, if you remember last week's postings, made a blanket offer to any mid
who needed airport transportation.  Well, since Ted's cruise got changed and
changed and changed, his airport ride plans fell apart. The folks who had
long ago planned to collect him from BWI and return him to Bancroft could no
longer assist.  I, being shy and reserved (not!), simply asked Randy if she
really meant what she said, she affirmed, and Ted was delivered safe and
sound to the Yard this evening by Mrs. Stokes.  Even after his plane was
delayed (heck, it made four stops as it traversed our fine country!) in
Chicago and arrived in Baltimore 30 minutes late she STILL waited for him.
Thank you, Randy.

And thank you, all, for being the great parents that you are to all these
fine midshipmen.  I am so proud of every one of them and you for making them
who they are.

Best regards,

Susan

Ted/'01/17th/varsity lacrosse

Susan Lemerande
lemonade@ivic.net

*** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan
<lemonade@ivic.net>







*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike <mzets@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA13247
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:13:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:13:05 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: AC year class schedules
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

My mid didn't recall when he got his AC schedule plebe year (I get the 
impression that some things are lost in the mists of time...). 

I believe that validating a course means moving up to another (albeit 
potentially more difficult) course, and that it is possible, depending on 
your major and what (or how many) courses you validate, to graduate ahead of 
your matrix.

*** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy <amysoule@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA16576
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:45:33 -0500 (CDT)
X-Originating-IP: [153.35.103.218]
From: "Helene Martin Lynn" <hmlynn1@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: yp schedules
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 16:45:04 PDT

Can anybody tell me how to know which YP a mid is on? I seem to remember 
something about it being done alphabetically. There is a group starting 
today or tomorrow.
  Thanks,
        Helene Martin Lynn, (Seth, '02, 3rd co. NY)
PS By the way, I could not get that sight that Mike posted, that gives YP 
schedules.


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*** USNA-NET post by: LYNN Seth 02 LYNN Helene <hmlynn1@hotmail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA17354
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 19:24:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Third YP Cruise Photos
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 20:22:50 -0400
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To all,

A big thank you to Kathleen Datko <kay@icdc.com> for providing the photos of
YP Fleet Summer Cruise Three - July 1999.

They are on our web site (www.navy-usna.org) Under "Family Interests" and
then
"YP Fleet Summer Cruise Three - July 1999"

Enjoy.  I'm sure Kathie would love to hear from you if any of you spot your
Youngster.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org





*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike <mzets@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA17727
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 19:39:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: JDWIL@aol.com
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 20:38:30 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Re: Plebe Care Packages
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

     We received our phone call early yesterday, which was great because we 
missed it last week because of the Parent's club Clambake in Portsmouth, NH. 
(We felt really bad because he called a friend and he was out, so he had to 
talk to his friend's mother!!)  We met a number of mids on their CSTS cruise, 
a great group of young men and women.  
     We must be the only parents who have been asked by their mid not to send 
anymore care packages. He actually groaned when we said we mailed 2 more on 
Friday. We have been keeping it very nutritious, maybe that's the problem, 
every high fortified bar in the store for variety, trail mix, nuts, gatorade 
mix. You name it we sent it. Everything that was suggested by you thoughtful, 
helpful people. After reading about all the illnesses going around Bancroft, 
I did break down and send a thermometer, which he said got a great laugh from 
his roommates. He said he has been coughing, though. 
     He has been so very upbeat and excited about all the different things 
they are doing, all we heard was I can't wait till PPW, to tell you all about 
it. He's playing soccer, validated 2 classes, is asst. squad leader, 
qualified as a sharpshooter, and seems in very good spirits. I hope it 
continues for 12 more days and 4 more years!
      It has been great reading all this mail, it makes me feel better and 
not totally in the dark about the USNA.
Thank you everyone for keeping us informed.
Kathy and Joe
AM (We don't know what they are calling him, as we call him by his middle 
name) 
03--- 0

*** USNA-NET post by: WILSON Anthony W 03-27 WILSON Joseph and Kathy <JDWIL@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA01153
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:53:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: DCA01@aol.com
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 22:53:12 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Addresses and general info
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
CC: swaldmann@hotmail.com, critter@wcoil.com

I'm cleaning up tonight - at long last my husband says.  I've come across a 
couple of papers that have information that bears repeating.  There are a lot 
of new members at both the plebe and net sites.  If this is old information, 
please just pass onto the next message.  If you've recently joined, take a 
look to make sure you have this information.

The Class of 2003 Parents Weekend Handbook from the USNA is available at 
www.usna.eduPAO/Parents  Check occasionally because it will be updated at the 
PPW gets closer.

The Academic Year 1999-2000 shcedule is available at 
www.nadn.navy.mil/AcDean/Calendars

The Navy Lodge is available for parents as long as their midshipmen sponsor 
them.  You may make the reservations yourself, but will need your mid's 
social security #, name, mailing address, rank, etc.  Your mid will need to 
be with you at check-in or come over ahead of your arrival so a copy of 
his/her I.D. can be made.  You may register 60 days in advance by using 
(800)NAVY INN or (410)757-7900.

As most of you know the Army/Navy tickets are at a premium.  This is the 
earliest time, in the history of the game, that Navy has sold their 
allotment.  There are a couple of other options that you may try.  The number 
for the Army Ticket Office is 914-446-4996.  You may place an order with a 
credit card.  You will be notified by September 20th as to whether or not you 
will get tickets.  If not, your credit card will be reimbursed for the 
charges.

The other possibility is to contact the Veteran's Stadium at 215-685-1500 and 
ask when the public tickets will be available.  It should be sometime in late 
August.  NAAA has asked that they move this date up and an announcement 
should be made however, we have received no notification.  There has been an 
official request for the city of Philly to sell back some of their tickets.  
There is not a great deal of hope that this will happpen.

Should you not be able to get tickets, consider hosting or helping to host an 
Army/Navy game party.  It's a great opportunity to get to know other members 
of your club - and if you feel very brave - ask the local Army Parents' Club 
to join you.  That should provide for a very entertaining afternoon.

GO NAVY

Nancy Aubel, Co-Pres
Dayton, Cincy and N. KY Parents' Club
Erik '00/12
Dayton, Ohio

*** USNA-NET post by: AUBEL Erik 00-12 AUBEL Nancy and Dave <DCA01@aol.com >




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA26677
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 06:41:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Nancy Patterson" <nancyp@dialnet.net>
To: "USNANET" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: CSTS
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 06:37:00 -0500
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Hi.  Brad is heading off on the Restless for Portsmouth, NH on his CSTS.
Anyone out there know what they do there.  Will they stay in NH over night?
He said they have a 48 hour sail this week Thur - Sat and then next week
they head to NH.  I assume there are many sailboats going, I guess it is
like the YP's, just the lead boat shows up on tracking.
Someone ask yesterday how to find out which YP your Mid is on, they have to
call you and tell you.

Thanks for any info.
Nancy
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       Nancy A Patterson    nancyp@dialnet.net
       (417) 743-2327         S.W.  Missouri

       Brad     02/CO 19  Men's Glee Club
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*** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy <nancyp@dialnet.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA06289
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:20:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: MrCid1@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:18:43 EDT
Subject: usna-net: CSTS
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

In answer to the question of what they do in Portsmouth, NH - 
The boats usually arrive at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard on a Friday and 
stay til Monday. The mids have to clean the boats, empty trash, shop for 
supplies at the commissary there, stay in the barracks - better than the 
cramped space on the boats and when not on watch, have town liberty.  BTW - 
the shipyard is actually in Kittery, ME just over the bridge from Portsmouth.
Not all the boats have the equipment for tracking, that is why they do not 
all show up. Five or six boats go to Portsmouth, the rest go to Groton, CT or 
Newport, RI

Carol Cipriano - Hampstead, NH (about an hour away from Portsmouth)
Jason 02/15

*** USNA-NET post by: CIPRIANO Jason A. 02-15 CIPRIANO Al and Carol <MrCid1@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA10256
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:00:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Sender: kgift@popmail.voicenet.com
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 12:01:32 -0400
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: Kathy <kgift@voicenet.com>
Subject: usna-net: usna-net

Mike,
This is my first time on usna-net and wanted to thank you for the
information on the YP cruise.   We took our son Philip back to the academy
yesterday and we are looking forward to using the web page on tracking the
YP's.  Thanks again.

Kathy and Wendell Gift ('72)
Philip 02-3rd company

*** USNA-NET post by: GIFT Philip D 02-3 GIFT Kathy and Wendell <kgift@voicenet.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA20107
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:15:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: RAmes50695@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:14:50 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Injured
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

To all,
I guess I just need a little support now........Erin called her father in 
Florida on Saturday.  She reported that she is still on crutches and is going 
to Bethesda Naval Hospital today for a bone scan.  Apparently they suspect a 
stress fracture of her hip.  Normally I would have jumped right on top a 
situation like this and done my usual "mom" thing.  I have controlled those 
urges because I know that she is legally an adult now, that she is now the 
responsibility of the United States Navy, that from all the reports I have 
read on this site.....I am comfortable that she will receive the very best 
care medically, and (probably the most compelling reason) I do not want to 
draw any attention to her as a result of my concern.  

Is there an appropriate action for me to take at this time or should I just 
wait for them to call me if that becomes necessary?  I would appreciate any 
suggestions or experiences you may wish to share.  Thanks for your help.  I 
would really be lost without you all right now.

Judy Ames
Erin Borozny
03/17

*** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy <rames50695@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA21706
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:58:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: WJ4MKL@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:56:39 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Trident
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

We, as subscribers, just received this week's edition of the "Trident" in the 
mail!  Made me think of yet another tip for PPW...pick up a copy of this 
publication...they are like air at USNA...all around.  The current edition 
includes articles about PEP, medical care, brigade stripers, weekly 
activities, and sports. Previous editions have included Mids who have made 
Supe's List, volunteered time for charitable projects, etc. We enjoy reading 
the articles which add to our knowledge and understanding of the Navy and 
USNA.  You might too.
PPW is just a few days away.  I know the Plebes, their parents, and their 
detailers are looking forward to it!!!!  We are all very proud!!!
Marilyn Litchfield
Brian 01/26

*** USNA-NET post by: LITCHFIELD Brian J. 01-26 LITCHFIELD Bill and Marilyn <WJ4MKL@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA22041
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:09:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kim Fricks <KFricks@meador.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: RE: usna-net: Trident
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:06:42 -0500 

That's awesome!  How can I subscribe to this?  Or can I?  Thanks, 
Kim Fricks
Donnie --Go Navy!!


-----Original Message-----
From: WJ4MKL@aol.com [mailto:WJ4MKL@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 12:57 PM
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Trident


We, as subscribers, just received this week's edition of the "Trident"
in the 
mail!  Made me think of yet another tip for PPW...pick up a copy of this

publication...they are like air at USNA...all around.  The current
edition 
includes articles about PEP, medical care, brigade stripers, weekly 
activities, and sports. Previous editions have included Mids who have
made 
Supe's List, volunteered time for charitable projects, etc. We enjoy
reading 
the articles which add to our knowledge and understanding of the Navy
and 
USNA.  You might too.
PPW is just a few days away.  I know the Plebes, their parents, and
their 
detailers are looking forward to it!!!!  We are all very proud!!!
Marilyn Litchfield
Brian 01/26

*** USNA-NET post by: LITCHFIELD Brian J. 01-26 LITCHFIELD Bill and
Marilyn <WJ4MKL@aol.com>



*** USNA-NET post by: FRICKS Donnie M 03-12 FRICKS Kim <kfricks@Meador.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA22976
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:43:03 -0500 (CDT)
To: 4mk@worldnet.att.net, bander48@aol.com, browning@northernnet.com,
        GUS10@uswest.net, jkalsch@worldnet.att.net, jmarti2902@aol.com,
        mark_annen@UDLP.com, marks@minn.net, Marty@rndsystems.com,
        richard.hartung@cwix.com, smudge@means.net, susadams@cwix.com,
        usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:38:32 -0500
Subject: usna-net: Thornton Studios/Plebe Summer
X-Juno-Att: 0
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From: P S Schroeder <pss@juno.com>

This info was also in the Trident:
Plebe Summer 1999 Videos

Read all about it at 
www.plebesummer.com

Penny Schroeder
___________________________________________________________________
Get the Internet just the way you want it.
Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

*** USNA-NET post by: SCHROEDER Michael J 01-23 James A. 99 -8 SCHROEDER Penny <pss@juno.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA23395
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:55:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Carbaugh" <carbaugh@mediaone.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Trident
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2099 14:59:59 -0400
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Hope this helps...
Glenda Carbaugh
(Brian 03Dirty 30/Papa)



           Subscriptions to the Trident can be ordered
           as follows: 

               3rd class mail - (takes approx.
               10-21 days for receipt) $28/year
               1st class mail - (approx 3 days)
               $85/year
               44 issues per year - the paper is
               published weekly except for three
               weeks in June, and over the
               Thanksgiving and Christmas
               Holidays.

           If you are ordering through a credit card,
           e-mail ebrady@gazette.net or call
           301-670-2680. Check or money order can be
           sent to: 

               Comprint Military Publications
               Trident Subscriptions
               9030 Comprint Ct.
               Gaithersburg, MD 20877-1303


*** USNA-NET post by: CARBAUGH Glenda 03 CARBAUGH Glenda and Marty <carbaugh@mediaone.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA29215
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:30:22 -0500 (CDT)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org, 4mk@worldnet.att.net, bander48@aol.com,
        browning@northernnet.com, GUS10@uswest.net, jkalsch@worldnet.att.net,
        jmarti2902@aol.com, mark_annen@UDLP.com, marks@minn.net,
        Marty@rndsystems.com, richard.hartung@cwix.com, smudge@means.net,
        susadams@cwix.com
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:24:53 -0500
Subject: usna-net: Fw: Thornton Studios/Plebe Summer
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X-Juno-Att: 0
X-Juno-RefParts: 0
From: P S Schroeder <pss@juno.com>

Correction:  I got this in my weekly alumni assn. mailing 
WITH the Trident  :-)

I'm sure the forms will be readily available during PPW as well.

(I have nothing to do with Thornton, but I have purchased these in the
past and they were
worth the price, I thought.)
---------------------------

Plebe Summer 1999 Videos

Read all about it at 
www.plebesummer.com

Penny Schroeder

___________________________________________________________________
Get the Internet just the way you want it.
Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

*** USNA-NET post by: SCHROEDER Michael J 01-23 James A. 99 -8 SCHROEDER Penny <pss@juno.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA10189
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:43:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:42:45 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Trident
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I agree that the Trident is a great way to learn a lot about the Academy.  I 
began my subscription during my mid's plebe summer at the suggestion of a 
local USNA parent.  That mom was my "support network" that summer, and she 
never steered me wrong!  I've read each Trident issue religiously for two 
years, and will continue to do so!

By the way, the URL for Trident online is:

http://www.dcmilitary.com/navy/trident/

Current articles and an archives are available, and all of the subscription 
info is there, too.

Amy

*** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy <amysoule@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA10642
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:52:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geezergear@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:51:39 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Trident
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

You can read from the USNA home page altho they are not too faithful about 
updates at some times of the year :)  also can get to the Annapolis paper 
that frequently has stories on The Academy (it is "THE" by the way :)

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Greg <Geezergear@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA23247
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:22:14 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1980 01:55:32 -0800
From: Stanford <stanford@mail.icongrp.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: YP Cruise picture 8/2/99

Thank you Kathleen Datko and Mike
  You did an excellant job taking pictures. And I found my Timothy.  
Yea!!  I know exactly how the other mom felt when she found her waldo 
plebe.  Those of us who do not live anywhere near the Yard really do 
appreciate all the stories and pictures that others share.  Even if our 
Mid is not involved at this time,  They either were or will be.
To all of you who share so selflessly,  THANKS!

Go Navy!

Linda
Tim 02/23
Cedar Lake, In.

*** USNA-NET post by: STANFORD Timothy 02-23 STANFORD Linda <stanford@mail.icongrp.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA28289
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:19:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: rdropek@uswest.net
Delivered-To: fixup-usna-net@navy-usna.org@fixme
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 22:23:45 -0600
To: USNA Net <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Sub Safety

To Susan and all other parents of potential submariners,

This probably won't help your comform level, but I'll pass
this 
anyway.    

The USS Thresher sank 4-10-63 when it failed during a test
dive to 1,300 feet.  The USS Scorpion was lost 5-28-98 and
was later confirmed sunk.  New evidence points to an
accident with a "hot running torpedo" (not the official
Navy report, however).  While it's true the
United States has only lost two subs, there were other
accidents and close calls with Soviet boats during the Cold
War years.  Read "Blind Man's Bluff" by Sherry Sontag and
Christopher Drew for a fascinating account of American
submarine espionage.  The hardships our submariners endured
are substantial.  I read the book on my son's advice (he
told
me to skip chapter one, but I didn't).  He spent most of
June
on the USS Nevada.  He had a great time, learned a lot, and
was very impressed with the technical competence and
attention
to safety practiced on our nuclear subs.  He also returned
with	
a much greater respect for those in the submarine force.

Pam Dropek
Sandy, UT
Ryan '01 22 CO

*** USNA-NET post by: DROPEK Ryan Bradley 01-22 DROPEK Rich and Pam <rdropek@uswest.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA02216
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:51:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: AGreen6814@aol.com
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:50:57 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Re:  Sub Safety
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Pam Dropek wrote:

"The USS Thresher sank 4-10-63 when it failed during a test
dive to 1,300 feet.  The USS Scorpion was lost 5-28-98 and
was later confirmed sunk."

Don't want to nitpick too much but think this date was 5-28-68.  Only reason 
to point that out is that the safety of these vessels has improved 
significantly since that time period.  During peacetime operations probably 
safer on a sub than driving in a car.

Andy Green
Keller, TX
Adam '02/17 Baseball

*** USNA-NET post by: GREEN Adam Blair 02-17 GREEN Andy and Gay <AGreen6814@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA25605
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:15:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: HillVale@aol.com
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:15:02 EDT
Subject: usna-net: (no subject)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello,  Haven't read any reports on the last YP cruise so I thought that I 
would share a few things that Richard mentioned when he called July 31.  He 
only knew about 3 or 4 Mids at the beginning, therefore "met some really good 
friends".  The first day in Boston he went out and did laundry for himself 
and others who had watch.  HMMM, not exactly my idea of fun, but certainly 
needs to be done. The next morning Rich, Dave, Dan and Chris were off the 
boat by 1000 and on their way to see "Blair Witch Project".  It took them a 
long time to find the theater and then it was sold out; they bought tickets 
for the next show at 1700.  With time to kill they  played pool and rested, 
drank McDonald's milkshakes and had fun.  He said that some other Mids were 
walking along and a limo full of girls pulled up and asked them to go to a 
bachelorette party; they politely declined.  The next day Rich, Frank, Kevin 
and Josh wanted to see the same movie; again sold out so they saw "The 
Haunting".  Red Sox weren't playing. He loves to read so he went to  B. 
Dalton's and bought a book to read. The food is apparently good on the boat 
and he got to cook for a day; french toast and bacon for breakfast and pizzas 
for lunch.  One of the MIDS made bread pudding  from scratch for everyone. A 
Lt. brought a chess board and 16 or so had a tournament.  The Lt. won! HMMM.  
They stand watch for 4 or 5 hours in the pilot house, steering the vessel, 
taking charge of the helm (steering wheel) and the navigator plots the 
charts.  Another watch is radio sending transmissions and breaking easy 
codes.  They also stand watch in the engine room checking for leaks and keep 
the engine and air conditioning going. They wore ear muffs to protect their 
hearing.  Gauges are constantly checked. Their air conditioning went out and 
an electrical technician from another boat fixed it. In all, they "had a 
blast" in Boston and New York.  They learned alot about the Navy!!  

Debby McCandless
Winter Park, Fl. 32792
Richard '02/11th  D&B soprano 

*** USNA-NET post by: MCCANDLESS Richard Thomas 02-11 MCCANDLESS Rich and Debby <HillVale@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA21532
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:30:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Rhonda Densmore" <rd4navy02@mindspring.com>
To: "USNA-NET" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: NTT
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:33:06 -0500
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Hello All!

My Mid returned to the Yard Sunday for NTT and I am curious as to what the
schedule is for this training. Also, what requirements must a Youngster
complete in order to receive a YP pin or are they "graded"?  I know the top
six on each boat receive this pin.

Thanks,
Rhonda Densmore
Dave Tickle '02, 22nd
Trussville, Alabama

GO NAVY!!!!





*** USNA-NET post by: TICKLE David Allen 02-22 DENSMORE Rhonda <rd4navy02@mindspring.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA23502
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:54:20 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1980 03:14:27 -0800
From: Stanford <stanford@mail.icongrp.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: 8/2/99 car rules

Hi everyone

Does anyone know exactly what the rules are regarding a 3/c riding in a 
car?  My older son is going to Maryland for a wedding and thought that he 
would try and visit his brother.  Can my youngster ride around with his 
21 year old brother?  Can he ride around with anyone else?  I will need 
to know no later then 6:30 am, before I go to work tomorrow.  Thanks in 
advance.

Go Navy!
Linda 
Indiana

*** USNA-NET post by: STANFORD Timothy 02-23 STANFORD Linda <stanford@mail.icongrp.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA04963
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 21:01:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Sender: kgift@popmail.voicenet.com
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 22:02:35 -0400
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: Kathy <kgift@voicenet.com>
Subject: usna-net: usna-net

Hi,
Can anyone tell me what time the YP's will be coming in on Friday, August
20th?  My husband and I would like to see our son coming in.  Thanks!

Kathy and Wendell Gift (72)
Philip 02/3

*** USNA-NET post by: GIFT Philip D 02-3 GIFT Kathy and Wendell <kgift@voicenet.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA17995
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 04:33:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Katherine Szerdy" <USNAMOM02@worldnet.att.net>
To: "usna-net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Value of Plebe Videotape
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 05:20:32 -0400
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Dear Joe and Kathy and All,
Last year, we purchased the "expensive" Plebe videotape and loved it!  =
As advertised, our Plebe had cameo appearances at least 6 or 7 times.  =
For us, it was well worth the money. =20

A little side note:  The tape arrived finally during Darren's =
Thanksgiving break.  When he found out we bought it, he whined, "Oh, why =
did you go out and buy that stupid thing!", and proceeded to saunter out =
of the room as I was about to plug it into the VCR.  Not one minute =
after I started the tape, he sauntered back in, plopped on the couch and =
watched the whole thing!!! :-)

GO PLEBES!  GO NAVY!  BEAT ARMY!
Sincerely,
Kathy and Steve / Orlando, FL
(Darren, 02/11, Crew)



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&quot;expensive&quot; Plebe videotape and loved it!&nbsp; As advertised, =
our=20
Plebe had cameo appearances at least 6 or 7 times.&nbsp; For us, it was =
well=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>A little side note:&nbsp; The tape =
arrived=20
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bought=20
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thing!&quot;,=20
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in,=20
plopped on the couch and watched the whole thing!!! :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>GO PLEBES!&nbsp; GO NAVY!&nbsp; BEAT =
ARMY!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sincerely,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Kathy and Steve / Orlando, FL</FONT></DIV>
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*** USNA-NET post by: SZERDY Darren 02-11 SZERDY Kathline <USNAMOM02@worldnet.att.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA25826
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 06:54:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geezergear@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:53:57 EDT
Subject: usna-net: video tapes, etc
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

If there is only $20 "extra" in a budget and the choice is a tape, or your 
Mid having the $20 (or taking another Mid to lunch whose parents can't come 
to PPW) it's a no brainer.  If the $20 is no biggie you'll never regret 
getting anything to do with your Officer's time at USNA.  When you realize 
you would hock your other kids, or your house to send a Plebe you don't even 
know home for Thanksgiving then you have a problem! :):)
Hope that each of you find your Mid well and satisfied when you get to PPW.
Wish I was going to the Yard, but saving my fall trip for Air Force game!
L&L to all

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Greg <Geezergear@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA26126
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:04:06 -0500 (CDT)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:01:38 -0400
Subject: usna-net: 8/20 YP reply
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From: james e wilson <iudoc@juno.com>

To Gifts, et al ---

Our son reports that he will arrive on 8/20 for Pass & Review at 1000. 
Most likely arriving the night before and spending the night cleaning,
etc in the bay before coming in.   They will be required to be on duty
until 1300, but many have finished all cleaning prior to Pass & Review
and have been freed immediately.  "It depends," is the navy answer we are
beginning to appreciate.   His suspicion is that since they are the last
summer group they "may" get to clean "a little longer" than other crews. 

Then the Brigade reforms at 1800 that same day, so it should be crowded
on the yard.
And all the YP'ers will be changing rooms, etc.
I'll be there to watch and hopefully take a huge crew of new friends to
lunch.  That as always, is his call. 

And, I've borrowed a digital camera ... so if they come out ok, I'll send
them out to Mike for the page.

Anybody need me to look for anyone in particular.

And ... our son reports he got some kind of "grease" (bonus) and got one
of the tickets for the Letterman show on 8/9.   So we'll tape it .... who
knows.

Godspeed all.
Jim Wilson
Jake, 02/15th
Columbus, OH

*** USNA-NET post by: WILSON Jacob 02-15 WILSON Jim <iudoc@juno.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA08296
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:05:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: BJSBURNS@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:05:04 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Book Signing Armel-Leftwich Visitor Center
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Dear Members,  We are forwarding this information sent to us by a member of 
our Parent's club.  


MEET THE AUTHOR  OF NAVY YARNS

 CAPT Roy C. Smith III, USNR (Ret.), class of 1934, will sign his book Navy
Yarns

of Seven Generations during the Armel-Leftwich Visitor Center's Maritime
Maryland event on 

Saturday, August 7th from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m.

 Navy Yarns is a collection of stories that, "if they ain't true, they
oughta be."  Snippets 

from the rough draft of this book have become one of the most popular
features of Naval History 

magazine.   If you have enjoyed CAPT Smith's Class Column in Shipmate and
his feature in 

Naval History, or love a good sea story and a belly-laugh, this book is a
must.

 Navy Yarns retails for $15.95 in the Visitor Center Gift Shop, which is
open the same

hours as the Visitor Center:  March through December from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.
and January through 

February, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m., except for Thanksgiving, Christmas and New
Year's Day when it is

closed.  Features of the Center include the film To Lead and To Serve and
America's first space 

capsule, Freedom 7.  

For more information, call 410-263-6933.


*** USNA-NET post by: BURNS Steven R. 02-17 BURNS Bob and Joyce <BJSBURNS@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA16794
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:26:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: ACTIONCHEM@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:25:17 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Navy Army game
To: USNA-NET@navy-usna.org

Hi fellow members,
    My husband and I are planning to spend the weekend in Philly for the navy 
army game.  I would appreciate any recommendations you might have concerning 
hotels.
     This past weekend we brought our son back to the yard for NTT.  We 
stayed at the Navy Lodge, and would recommend it highly.  The rooms are 
large, as is the bathroom.  The kitchenettes include a coffee maker, 
refigerator, microwave, iron and board. A real bargain at $57.
  
  Beat Army
  Penny Hulbert

*** USNA-NET post by: HULBERT Eric 02-16 HULBERT Bob and Penny <ACTIONCHEM@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA17676
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:56:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: <USNA-NET@navy-usna.org>
References: <f55fcf48.24d9df8d@aol.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Navy Army game
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:55:49 -0400
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Start Now for rooms!! I reserved my rooms last January. I would expect that
there are no rooms left in downtown Philly at this date. If so, they will
run about $175 to $200 a night to start. There are some Suites only hotels
about 25 miles outside the city that should still have vacancies and
reasonable rates.

Gregg
----- Original Message -----
From: <ACTIONCHEM@aol.com>
To: <USNA-NET@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 2:25 PM
Subject: usna-net: Navy Army game



Hi fellow members,
    My husband and I are planning to spend the weekend in Philly for the
navy
army game.  I would appreciate any recommendations you might have concerning
hotels.
     This past weekend we brought our son back to the yard for NTT.  We
stayed at the Navy Lodge, and would recommend it highly.  The rooms are
large, as is the bathroom.  The kitchenettes include a coffee maker,
refigerator, microwave, iron and board. A real bargain at $57.

  Beat Army
  Penny Hulbert

*** USNA-NET post by: HULBERT Eric 02-16 HULBERT Bob and Penny
<ACTIONCHEM@aol.com>






*** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA17928
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:02:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: Lynn Johnson <ljohnson@bbnm.com>
To: "'ACTIONCHEM@aol.com'" <ACTIONCHEM@aol.com>,
        "USNA-NET@navy-usna.org"
	 <USNA-NET@navy-usna.org>
Subject: RE: usna-net: Navy Army game
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:01:12 -0600
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by westpoint.west-point.org id OAA17921

We just made reservations at the Marriott airport in Philadelphia.  This is our first Navy/Army game, and are really looking forward to it.  I understand that any of the Airport hotels are good selections.

We just learned of the Navy Lodge in Annapolis, heard nothing but good things about it.  It'll be our selection for our next trip there, too.

Lynn Johnson
Kurt '02,  6th Company


-----Original Message-----
From:	ACTIONCHEM@aol.com [SMTP:ACTIONCHEM@aol.com]
Sent:	Wednesday, August 04, 1999 12:25 PM
To:	USNA-NET@navy-usna.org
Subject:	usna-net: Navy Army game

Hi fellow members,
    My husband and I are planning to spend the weekend in Philly for the navy 
army game.  I would appreciate any recommendations you might have concerning 
hotels.
     This past weekend we brought our son back to the yard for NTT.  We 
stayed at the Navy Lodge, and would recommend it highly.  The rooms are 
large, as is the bathroom.  The kitchenettes include a coffee maker, 
refigerator, microwave, iron and board. A real bargain at $57.
  
  Beat Army
  Penny Hulbert

*** USNA-NET post by: HULBERT Eric 02-16 HULBERT Bob and Penny <ACTIONCHEM@aol.com>




*** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSON Kurtis W 02-6 JOHNSON Ken and Lynn <ljohnson@bbnm.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA24475
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:47:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: NevesPK@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:46:43 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Insurance??
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

A while ago there was a post concerning "property" insurance that the nids 
could get ?  I have misplaced or deleted(?) that post.  could someone please 
enlighten me on that again.  I think the poster said it was approximately $35 
per year and woul dcover their personal property whereever they were?
Thanks in advance.
Go Navy!
Pamela
Doug 02/22

*** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela <nevespk@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA25082
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:07:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: Gletch@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:06:33 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Navy Army game
To: USNA-NET@navy-usna.org

Hi!  I live 13 miles outside of Philadelphia and my husband is a police 
officer in Mt. Laurel Township.  I know last year during the Army-Navy game 
weekend, he said they had tailgating parties all night long Friday night and 
Saturday night at the Hotels along Route 73 in Mount Laurel.  There's also 
ample hotel space in Cherry Hill, which is likewise very close to 
Philadelphia.  I'm not trying to advertise, but maybe just give some of you 
not familiar with the geographical area some insight as to what's nearby.  
These are both "nice" areas.

Ginger Letchford
Jim 03/Charlie 6

*** USNA-NET post by: LETCHFORD James Howard 03 LETCHFORD Ginger <Gletch@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA29183
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:46:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Brian Datko" <kay@icdc.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Army Navy Game
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:43:37 -0700
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i thought the game was being played in Baltimore MD?  I was just wondering
so many people were staying in Phila. I wish it was here. We live about
15min away.
Kathie Datko
Ardmore Pa


*** USNA-NET post by: DATKO Joshua 02 DATKO Kathie and Brian <kay@icdc.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA29406
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:57:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: Stamperhog@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:56:18 EDT
Subject: Re:  usna-net: Army Navy Game
To: kay@icdc.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org


In a message dated 8/4/99 6:53:01 PM, kay@icdc.com wrote:

<<i thought the game was being played in Baltimore MD?  I was just wondering
so many people were staying in Phila. I wish it was here. We live about
15min awa>>

As I understand it, the '99 game in in Philly, and the 2000 game is in 
Baltimore.

Lynn BEnsy

*** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn <Stamperhog@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA29677
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:06:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:04:28 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Army Navy Game
To: kay@icdc.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

The 1999 game is being played in Philadelphia.  The  2000 game is being 
played in Baltimore.

*** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy <amysoule@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA00019
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:22:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geezergear@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:21:35 EDT
Subject: usna-net: a Mid-store must
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

worried bout all you guys after some of the notes i've read re. mid-store 
trips!  DO get "Set Sail" album, tape-USNA choir, D&B, band.  I couldn't do 
without mine, and you are SUPPOSED to at least know Blue and Gold!
You will get LOTS more out of it than the shoelaces! :):)  You will hear "SS"
everywhere you go , and when on hold at USNAAA office, visitor center, etc.
GO Navy! Beat Everybody-especially Army, not to mention the Zoomies!

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Greg <Geezergear@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA00320
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:33:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: Janet Ferrara <ferrara@ez2.net>
To: "'USNA Club Net'" <USNA-ClubNet@navy-usna.org>,
        "'USNA Net'"
	 <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Plebe misplaced sponsors phone number
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:28:32 -0700

Hi, All,

I received a call from a panicky mom trying to help her daughter who has 
misplaced her new sponsors phone and address, which she also sent to her 
mom who spilled coffee on it!!!  (pops!)

I have the mom's phone number that I can give to anyone that might be able 
to refer us to the right person. We are trying to let her daughter remain a 
"stealth plebe" by not going to the "powers that be" to get this 
information again.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,  Go Navy, Beat Army!
Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, CA
Webmaster for USNA Parents' Club of Southern California
www.web2000.com/usnapcsc
Michael, Class of 2000, Co. 15



*** USNA-NET post by: FERRARA Michael 00 FERRARA Janet & Tom <ferrara@ez2.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA02930
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:29:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Brian Datko" <kay@icdc.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Army Navy game
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:26:14 -0700
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Thanks I stand corrected.  I guess I would of figured it out when my tickets
came.
Kathie Datko
Ardmore Pa


*** USNA-NET post by: DATKO Joshua 02 DATKO Kathie and Brian <kay@icdc.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA03858
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:37:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: SGV98MTX@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:36:20 EDT
Subject: usna-net: "Set Sail" A MUST!
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I was going to recommend "Set Sail" album to everyone....however, my husband 
just told me that he had just done that!  :)
This is an Album that will keep you very close to your Midshipman....Always!
I am so "touched" each time I listen to it.....which is every night....Of 
Course!
Goes great with the Colors and Brigade Flags flying high on our W. Texas 
lawn!!!  :)    :)    :)
Best of Luck to all of you!
God Bless....
GO NAVY!
Sharon Vardaman
John Vardaman/ '01/8th

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 00-8 VARDAMAN Sharon <sgv98mtx@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA04699
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:48:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: Stamperhog@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:47:00 EDT
Subject: Re:  usna-net: "Set Sail" A MUST!
To: SGV98MTX@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org


In a message dated 8/4/99 8:44:46 PM, SGV98MTX@aol.com wrote:

<<I was going to recommend "Set Sail" album to everyone....however, my 
husband 
just told me that he had just done that!  :)
This is an Album that will keep you very close to your Midshipman....Alway>>
What songs are on this CD???   Are they songs that we will recognize??   IT 
is instrumental, or the glee club or WHAT????

Lynn

*** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn <Stamperhog@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA06448
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:01:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: SGV98MTX@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:00:12 EDT
Subject: Re:  usna-net: "Set Sail" A MUST!
To: Stamperhog@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

18 songs from Glee Club including Anchors Aweigh, Marine Hymn, Blue and Gold, 
Eternal Father (Navy Hymn), Submarine Song, etc, etc. 3 selections from D&B 
Corps, 2 from Full Sail Trio, and 8 from USNA Band.
Band, and D&B are "instrumental", all rest vocals!  Traditional USN, USNA
stuff.  IF you don't get something out of it I'll send you the $$$$$!  Get a 
deal like that anywhere!!!!  Just mentioned it 'cause it has meant a lot to 
us, and kept me close to USNA/Mid!  I have no financial stake in this deal 
('91 Club etc.) just want to think someone else is singing along some 
evenings!:)
Be Loud, Be Proud! Go Navy!

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 00-8 VARDAMAN Sharon <sgv98mtx@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA08526
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:17:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: rdropek@uswest.net
Delivered-To: fixup-usna-net@navy-usna.org@fixme
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 20:22:51 -0600
To: USNA Net <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Misplaced phone No.



Janet,

The Utah Parents' Club lists in its newsletter 410-293-7128
as the telephone number for the sponsor program.  Try that.
Also, we looked up the name and phone number of our son's
sponsor from lists the Maryland Parents' Club had posted in
Dahlgren at PPW.  Perhaps you could try their club president
as well.

Pam Dropek
Ryan '01


*** USNA-NET post by: DROPEK Ryan Bradley 01-22 DROPEK Rich and Pam <rdropek@uswest.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA08868
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:19:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geezergear@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:19:12 EDT
Subject: usna-net: USNA grads, et al
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

My hometown of 60,000 just graduated 4 from military academies: 2 from THE 
ACADEMY (both Marines, oo-rah!), 1 from the place in NY, and a Zoomie! :)  Am 
proud of all!  Please note that USNA was on top as usual!

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Greg <Geezergear@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA07926
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:33:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: "'USNA Club Net'" <USNA-ClubNet@navy-usna.org>,
        "'USNA Net'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <01BEDE9E.CC0DAD40.ferrara@ez2.net>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Plebe misplaced sponsors phone number
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:31:41 -0400
	charset="iso-8859-1"
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Call 410-293-7128, Betty.

That's the sponsor program director. She'll hook them up.

Gregg
----- Original Message -----
From: Janet Ferrara <ferrara@ez2.net>
To: 'USNA Club Net' <USNA-ClubNet@navy-usna.org>; 'USNA Net'
<usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 8:28 PM
Subject: usna-net: Plebe misplaced sponsors phone number



Hi, All,

I received a call from a panicky mom trying to help her daughter who has
misplaced her new sponsors phone and address, which she also sent to her
mom who spilled coffee on it!!!  (pops!)

I have the mom's phone number that I can give to anyone that might be able
to refer us to the right person. We are trying to let her daughter remain a
"stealth plebe" by not going to the "powers that be" to get this
information again.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,  Go Navy, Beat Army!
Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, CA
Webmaster for USNA Parents' Club of Southern California
www.web2000.com/usnapcsc
Michael, Class of 2000, Co. 15



*** USNA-NET post by: FERRARA Michael 00 FERRARA Janet & Tom
<ferrara@ez2.net>






*** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA08025
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:36:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <4204f025.24da2d22@aol.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Army Navy Game
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:34:58 -0400
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Army-Navy 2000 will be played in Landover, MD in the new Jack Kent Cooke
(Redskin) Stadium. Last year's Navy-ND game and this year's Air Force-Navy
game was/is played there as well.

Gregg
----- Original Message -----
From: <Stamperhog@aol.com>
To: <kay@icdc.com>; <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: usna-net: Army Navy Game




In a message dated 8/4/99 6:53:01 PM, kay@icdc.com wrote:

<<i thought the game was being played in Baltimore MD?  I was just wondering
so many people were staying in Phila. I wish it was here. We live about
15min awa>>

As I understand it, the '99 game in in Philly, and the 2000 game is in
Baltimore.

Lynn BEnsy

*** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn
<Stamperhog@aol.com>






*** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA13604
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:43:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:42:17 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Army Navy Game
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I may be wrong....but I think that next years ARMY NAVY game is going to be 
held in the Baltimore Ravens stadium......
Dindy Liebert 

*** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter <LIEBERTCO@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA17944
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:49:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: SGV98MTX@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:48:13 EDT
Subject: usna-net: About No Mail or Phone Call
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Just keep sending YOUR MID notes from home.......Filled with LOVE, 
ENCOURAGEMENT AND UNDERSTANDING.......They have SO little TIME to do 
anything......:)  But ONE thing for SURE!!!! THEY LOVE AND FIND TIME TO READ 
REAL MAIL FROM HOME....:)
You folks hang in there together!  You WILL get those phone calls...Promise! 
:)
God Bless.........BE LOUD, BE STRONG!  GO NAVY!
Sharon and Gregg Vardaman
John/'01/8th

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 00-8 VARDAMAN Sharon <sgv98mtx@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA20158
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:29:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:29:10 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Army Navy Game
To: steinhilpert@74.usafa.org, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Actually, no...The Navy/Army game is not slated for Jack Kent Cooke.  The 
following information appeared in the Annapolis Capitol:

"Army-Navy to play in Baltimore

Ravens Stadium in Baltimore will host the annual Army-Navy game next year.

(Excerpted from the article by JOE GROSS, Sports Editor.  Published June 04, 
1999, The Capital, Annapolis, MD)

Navy's 101st renewal of the Army-Navy football game, scheduled for Dec. 2, 
2000, will be played in Baltimore. 

The Army-Navy football series has attracted nearly seven million fans in its 
previous 99 contests, more than any other collegiate rivalry in the nation. 
Baltimore's 2-year-old facility at Camden Yards seats 69,400 spectators. 

This year's game will be played on Dec. 4 in Philadelphia where it has been 
held 74 times. 

The Army-Navy contract with Philadelphia runs through 2002, but it allows 
some games to be taken to other sites. This will be the final "out" year of 
the current contract. 

The Army-Navy game was last played in Baltimore in 1944, but since then 
hasn't been played anywhere other than Philadelphia, Pasadena, Calif, or East 
Rutherford, N.J. 

Jack Lengyel, the Naval Academy athletic director, said the change of venue 
has nothing to do with last season's incident in which several people were 
injured when a Veterans Stadium railing gave way as a throng of Army Cadets 
leaned forward to mug for a television camera. 

His idea is to play the game at Giants Stadium for the years Army is the home 
team and at either PSINet or Jack Kent Cooke Stadium in the years Navy is the 
host. 

Future plans for Navy to play games there have to be negotiated with Daniel 
Synder, the new owner of the Redskins and the stadium." 

*** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy <amysoule@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA20711
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:38:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nancy765@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:38:09 EDT
Subject: usna-net: vanity plates transfer?
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I have not checked with our Bureau of Motor Vehicles (Ohio), but I do not 
think that plates can be transferred from one owner to another.  I would like 
to get a vanity plate for my son's truck which is actually in his dad's name. 
 However, when our mid gets his car in a year or two I doubt that the plates 
can transfer to a different owner.

Nancy Rogers
Steve 02/26
Hamilton, OH

*** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS Stephen J. 02-26 ROGERS Randy and Nancy <Nancy765@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA23664
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:42:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: Janet Ferrara <ferrara@ez2.net>
To: "'USNA Club Net'" <USNA-ClubNet@navy-usna.org>,
        "'USNA Net'"
	 <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Misplaced sponsor phone
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:37:36 -0700

Thanks to all who responded with a phone number, I appreciate your help.

Janet Ferrara

*** USNA-NET post by: FERRARA Michael 00 FERRARA Janet & Tom <ferrara@ez2.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA01280
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:52:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:51:03 EDT
Subject: usna-net: YP NY
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello,
My mid will be in NY this weekend. They will be arriving on Sat and leave 
Tuesday for Boston. Anyone going to be around there??? 
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
Ltwt crew
TX

*** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol <Jhb317@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA09687
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:11:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Sender: jarcpa@pop.mindspring.com
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 17:08:54 -0400
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: jim roy <jarcpa@mindspring.com>
Subject: usna-net: West Point Exchange Students 

If the following request does not fall within established guidelines,
please forgive me and ignore it.  Thanks.

I have misplaced the email address of a family that contacted me a couple
of months ago through this listserver.  The Mid I remember is from
Michigan.  I am hesitant to mention his name in case this is taboo.  My mid
is Andrew Roy, '01.  Both will soon enter the "other" school in NY as
exchange students for a semester.  I would like to touch base with Tim's
folks and would appreciate them getting in touch with me again.  Thanks
very much and God Bless!

Barbara Roy
Andrew Roy, '01/10th. Co.
Peachtree City, GA


*** USNA-NET post by: ROY Andrew Thompson 01-10 ROY Barbara and Jim <jarcpa@mindspring.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA10259
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:34:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:33:32 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Stuff To Mail
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello,
I need to mail a box full of my Youngsters Stuff. It is a Dell computer box. 
I am not sure the Post Office will take it. If not, what is the correct 
address to send parcel post? I have never sent anything UPS to the Academy, 
because I know it is a hassle to get things. Also is reform Aug 20th? If so, 
what kind of room choices to the Youngsters have when they get back on the 
20th? Are they left with the ones know one wants?
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
Ltwt Crew
Houston, TX

*** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol <Jhb317@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA10784
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:50:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:49:34 EDT
Subject: usna-net: More YP
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Does anyone know where the YP's dock and what time they will be in NY on Sat?
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
Ltwt Crew
Houston,
TX

*** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol <Jhb317@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA11087
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:01:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Dan Crestetto" <dcrestet@mail.sandi.net>
To: "NAVY" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: YP's
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:58:05 -0700
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To All:

The YPs will be at pier 88 at about 42nd street on the Hudson River side next to the USS Intrepid Navy/Military Museum.  They said it takes about 30 hours of steaming from Annapolis to NYC dockside.  Hope this helps.   Dan Crestetto,  Jeremy, '02-30.


*** USNA-NET post by: CRESTETTO Jeremy D. 02-30 CRESTETTO Dan and Barbara <dcrestet@mail.sandi.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA11946
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 08:00:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Originating-IP: [153.35.103.65]
From: "Helene Martin Lynn" <hmlynn1@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: yp question
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 06:00:49 PDT

Does anybody know when the Bravo group of YP's will be motoring past 
Greenwich, CT in Long Island Sound, on their way to Boston? We would like to 
motor out and take pictures. Also when they will be in Boston and NYC? 
Thanks, Lane Lynn (Seth, '02, NY, 3rd co.)


_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

*** USNA-NET post by: LYNN Seth 02 LYNN Helene <hmlynn1@hotmail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA04813
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:59:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: NevesPK@aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 14:59:03 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Navy Lodge
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi All..I am wondering if "friends" of the mids are allowed to stay at the 
Navy lodge or must it be "family"...?  a ocuple of my son's friends are 
considering going back to visit and we thought that might be a good place for 
them to stay since they are unfamiliar with the area.  
Thanks!
Go Navy!

*** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela <nevespk@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA13112
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:56:17 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 18:06:19 -0400
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: navy Lodge

The Navy Lodges are set up to benefit those who are in the military and
their families- active (and those who are retired)- as a way of
compensating them when they have a short-term duty assignment that
requires them to stay overnight for brief periods of time. They need to
show duty orders when checking in if they make the reservation more than
60 days in advance.
To use these for 'friends' use is a misuse of these lodgings - according
to a military friend of mine, he says 'They are military lodgings for
military people'. We, as parents, are fortunate to ride on our
sons/daughters coat-tails.

Kathy C.
I suggest that you

*** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen <cullfam@warwick.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA21817
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:32:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: HeyNita@aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:31:59 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Re: YP's...Bravo Group
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Lane,
 
I believe the Bravo group of YP's will be in Boston next Wednesday Aug 11th 
thru Friday Aug 13th, and in New York the following Wednesday through Friday. 
 My son Andrew did not make it clear exactly when they would arrive for pass 
and review, but he thought they might arrive sometime Tuesday evening.   
Sorry I do not know when they will going past Greenwich CT.  

To Barbara Ahr,
In an earlier message on this listserver, you asked which ship my son will be 
on...Andrew will be on YP688 in Bravo Group.  Is your daughter with this 
group of ships?  Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier with this 
information, but he just told us the info.  Thanks for your earlier message.

Juanita Chauvin   Andrew '02, Mens Swimming
Simi Valley, CA

*** USNA-NET post by: CHAUVIN Andrew John 02-4 CHAUVIN Juanita <HeyNita@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA27163
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 20:47:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-ClubNet>" <USNA-ClubNet@navy-usna.org>,
        "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: PASSWORD CHANGE
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 21:44:13 -0400
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To all...

The Password for archive access has been changed.

USER NAME:    brigade
PASSWORD:    officer

all lowercase

PLEASE PRINT OUT THIS MESSAGE FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.

I may start charging a fee for supplying it if you forget.  I need money for
an anniversary gift for my tolerant and understanding wife of six months
today.  (Just kidding!)

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org






*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike <mzets@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA06674
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 21:47:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: SGV98MTX@aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 22:46:31 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Birthday Ideas!!!
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

First, 
A suggestion... DO NOT send bouquets of BALLOONS!  Especially BARNEY 
balloons, etc.!  Remember....NO ATTENTION drawn to your Mid!  :)
DO NOT SEND ANYTHING THAT WILL DRAW ATTENTION!  ESPECIALLY IF IT IS 
CONSIDERED JUVENILE, ETC.!!!!!!  :)   

Good Ideas:

Phone Cards are always welcome.....He/she might call home!

Make his/her favorite brownie/cookie recipe and send enough for him/her to 
share with his/her roomies....:)   He/she will instantly be reminded of YOU!

Book of stamps, postcards, stationery, etc......Might want to pre-address 
some items for home.....You MIGHT get a letter/post card in the mail!  Hey, 
it SAVES TIME!  :-)

A card from Mom and/or Dad ........Just tell them how very much you love your 
Mid and how very, very PROUD you are!!!  And that you will always BE THERE 
for him/her.........NO MATTER WHAT!!!!!!!!

And let them know that they are CONSTANTLY IN YOUR PRAYERS!!!

These are but a few suggestions!

God Bless......Good Luck....BE LOUD!  BE PROUD!

GO NAVY!

Sharon and Gregg Vardaman

John/'01/8th




*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 00-8 VARDAMAN Sharon <sgv98mtx@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA19342
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 07:04:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Originating-IP: [153.35.103.111]
From: "Helene Martin Lynn" <hmlynn1@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: YP's now
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 05:04:11 PDT

Thankyou for all the help on YP locations. The site that maps where they are 
does not work on my computer, (I just get a blank grey screen). Does anyone 
know where the Bravo's are this morning. I think they may be about to go 
through Long Island sound, and we could see them there if we go out. I'll 
check email for a couple of hours and see if anyone knows and has written 
in. If I get them, I'll take pictures for all. Thanks, Lane Lynn


_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

*** USNA-NET post by: LYNN Seth 02 LYNN Helene <hmlynn1@hotmail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA23576
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 08:07:45 -0500 (CDT)
X-Originating-IP: [153.35.238.62]
From: "Helene Martin Lynn" <hmlynn1@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: YP answer
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 06:07:42 PDT

I see, (through someone elses computer) that the YP's are heading out to sea 
and will not be coming through Long Island sound. I think the Navy may have 
planned it this way so that my mid would not be embarrassed by his parents 
motoring out and waving at him. (joke)
Thanks again everybody, Lane (Seth, '02, 3rd co., NY)


_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

*** USNA-NET post by: LYNN Seth 02 LYNN Helene <hmlynn1@hotmail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA24625
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 09:05:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: NGlasgow2@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 10:05:01 EDT
Subject: usna-net: '02 Herndon tape
To: USNA-NET@navy-usna.org

Does anyone know where I can purchase a tape of the '02 Herndon climb?  It is 
one of those things that I thought I wouldn't want and now wish I had made a 
different choice months ago when I had the opportunity to buy one.  I hope to 
hear from someone on this!   

Thank you,  
Norma Glasgow
Tripp 02/7
Gymnast

*** USNA-NET post by: GLASGOW Richard 02-7 GLASGOW Norma <NGlasgow2@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA24953
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 09:21:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: "gandy" <hwgandy@localaccess.net>
To: <USNA-NET@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: '02 Herndon tape
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 09:26:37 -0500
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>Does anyone know where I can purchase a tape of the '02 Herndon climb?
Herndon phone   410 266- 7424        FAX 410 224- 3423
I could not locate the email address ( maybe someone else will post the
email)
but I would want to talk to them myself.
good luck!

Jackie  "-let me tell you about my mid"  Gandy
'02-30 co. "Dirty Thirty"  D & B
Guntersville, Alabama
Go NAVY! Beat Army!



*** USNA-NET post by: GANDY Jonathan Wayne 02-30 GANDY Wayne and Jackie <hwgandy@localaccess.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA25201
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 09:34:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: Stamperhog@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 10:34:03 EDT
Subject: Re:  usna-net: '02 Herndon tape
To: NGlasgow2@aol.com, USNA-NET@navy-usna.org


In a message dated 8/7/99 9:28:27 AM, NGlasgow2@aol.com wrote:

<<Does anyone know where I can purchase a tape of the '02 Herndon climb?  It 
is 
one of those things that I thought I wouldn't want and now wish I had made a 
different choice months ago when I had the opportunity to buy one.  I hope to 
hear from someone on this!   
>>

You can contact Thornton Studios, the official Herndon videographer, at 
jeeps@erols.com. That's where I ordered mine ahead of time, and I'm SURE 
they'd be glad to sell another at the last minute!!!  

Lynn

*** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn <Stamperhog@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA27146
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 10:34:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: NevesPK@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 11:33:32 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Navy Lodge?
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi Everyone!..Well, I have checked the web site and it seems for every Navy 
Lodge except the new one in Annapolis there is a map or information showing 
where it is located. The site for the one in Annapolis says they are building 
it! Guess they need to update the site huh? Can anyone out there give me an 
idea as to where it is in relationship to the Academy?  Thanks for you help!
Pamela
Doug 02/22

*** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela <nevespk@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA02286
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:06:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: NevesPK@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:06:04 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Thanks!
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

thanks somuch  to sll of your who sent me directions to the Navy Lodge - I 
think I can find my way there......however, I don't always rent a car so it 
may not be the place for me...or.I just may have to rent a car!  LOL!         
Go Navy!
Pamela 
Doug 02/22

*** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela <nevespk@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA03221
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:40:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:39:36 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: '02 Herndon tape
To: NGlasgow2@aol.com, USNA-NET@navy-usna.org

And I have the same request, but about 2001.  As Nancy, I didn't think I 
would want it, but now wish I had gotten one.

Amy
Brandon '01

*** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy <amysoule@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA05063
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:02:35 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 11:08:02 -0700
From: Susan Lemerande <lemonade@ivic.net>
To: Amysoule@aol.com
CC: NGlasgow2@aol.com, USNA-NET@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: '02 Herndon tape
References: <76b55886.24ddc958@aol.com>

Now that you mention it, IF it is still possible to get a tape of '01's
climp I'd like to know about it, also.

Susan



Amysoule@aol.com wrote:

> And I have the same request, but about 2001.  As Nancy, I didn't think I
> would want it, but now wish I had gotten one.
>
> Amy
> Brandon '01
>
> *** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy <amysoule@aol.com>
>




*** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan <lemonade@ivic.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA13085
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:12:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: "gandy" <hwgandy@localaccess.net>
To: <USNA-NET@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: New York,New York! Its a WONDERFUL town!
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:17:20 -0500
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Hey all you 4th block  YP Cruise Youngster parents:

    If your mid is on YP 680  they are in NEW YORK and out on the town!  We
have been out most of the day (at a Fund raiser  Golf Tournament sponsored
by my church or I would have been home because I expected a call!).   When
we got home there was a message blinking....
"Hey MOM , This is Jonathan-- I am calling from New YOrk..  I'm at  the top
of the World Trade Center...I thought it would be  kind of a  funny place to
call from, sorry you are not home --can't imagine where ya' ll would be
today....will try to call later..... just wanted to let you know we got here
early this morning... going to the Statue of Liberty next...This  looks like
it  should be fun.....I stood watch in the pilot house from 8pm til
midnight...got some good time in night time conning.. Having some good
fun......Will call later today!!!!!!!!"
    Now that is a GOOD phone call even if we were not here to take it!   I
would have cried last year to have missed his call ( I did miss a few and
did cry--sorry its a mom thing.....I will be waiting for the REAL call
today.  He already sent an email Thurs saying he had lost the last round of
paper rock scissors so did not get a Letteman ticket!!!!!  But sounds like
they are having a good time!  That  is the important thing!
    Some parents  had posted ideas about birthday gifts,  here is another
idea: last year I chatted with a plebe  and her mom  shopping in the mid
store-- they were buying her a real good sleeping bag so she would not have
to make up her bed every day.    She  could get up, get  ready and get out
quicker.....A good quality sleeping bag would come in handy to all of them
and a big roll of duct or masking tape!    Our son had a real good sleeping
bag  that he took up after Thanksgiving and he said that worked out
great.... He also had his sheets, bedspead (the "blue magnet")  duct taped
to the underneath so it was always tightly  tucked ready for inspection.
When  his  whole mattress  got thrown out the  window of his (4th floor)
room  army Navy week, the sheets and spread did not even come off!!

    Hang in there Plebe parents!  One of The Sweetest  Times you will ever
spend with your Mid "child" is getting  closer!!!!!!

    I am going offline for the rest of the day   To make sure I don't miss
the next phone call!!!!!
    Go NAVY! Beat Army!

Jackie  "let me tell you about my mid"  Gandy
'02-30 co. "Dirty Thirty"  D & B
Guntersville, Alabama




*** USNA-NET post by: GANDY Jonathan Wayne 02-30 GANDY Wayne and Jackie <hwgandy@localaccess.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA14727
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:59:20 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 16:55:53 -0500
From: "murtagh's" <murtagh@ibm.net>
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To: "USNA-NET@navy-usna.org" <USNA-NET@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Bravo YP's in New York

Hi ! Just got a call from my daughter Cari.  She is on the
Bravo YPs.  It seems there was an engine fire and they
docked in New York instead of going to Boston there was an
engine fire aboard one of the YP's and they changed plans.
She didn't say which boat it was.  She talked to her dad and
he didn't get too many details.  He just said it sounded
like she wanted to get out on town.  Cathie Murtagh


*** USNA-NET post by: MURTAGH Cari 02-3 MURTAGH John and Cathie <murtagh@ibm.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA09405
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 22:10:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: HeyNita@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 23:09:29 EDT
Subject: usna-net: YP's...Bravo group
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Heard unexpectedly from Andrew tonight....seems he is in New York even though 
he's in Bravo group.  His ship YP688 helped the ship that had the engine 
fire, which was YP693. Seems that his ship helped evacuate the crew from 
693...they lost all engine power and all electrical power.  There was a 
manifold leak in the engine.  Everyone got off safely and both ships docked 
in New York. They will leave New York tomorrow and take the inland passageway 
and should still be in Boston next Wednesday thru Friday.  

Juanita Chauvin.....Andrew'02, Mens Swimming
Simi Valley, CA

*** USNA-NET post by: CHAUVIN Andrew John 02-4 CHAUVIN Juanita <HeyNita@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA10292
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 22:49:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: Robbleemom@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 23:48:33 EDT
Subject: usna-net: yp685-693  Everyone is fine
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

My son just called from NYC. His ship had the fire in the engine Real scarey 
as well as a busy day for them all but everyone is just fine.  He said they 
will be in Boston Fri or Sat now instead of Tues -Thurs....better for us here 
in Boston.  
They transferred from original YP685 to 693 and will be changing back again 
to either 687 or 685.  Teamwork is the name of the game.  They're all grown 
up now!!
Jasons mom
02/26
Boston

*** USNA-NET post by: ROBBLEE Jason P 02-26 ROBBLEE Janie <Robbleemom@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA10486
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 22:59:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-Originating-IP: [153.35.103.212]
From: "Helene Martin Lynn" <hmlynn1@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: YP's
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 20:59:43 PDT

First, big thanks to Anita for telling me how to get my map of the YP's 
working. And thanks to Mike too, but, amazingly, Anita scooped you out 
here:) Well the problem is, when you get that grey square, just go away from 
your computer and do a couple of things, then come back, and "Voila!"
  Mine says all the boats are #684 but you get the general idea.
Meanwhile, Seth called his Dad and told him that he had been diverted to 
NYC. His boat is #688 and his group is Bravo. They went to help the boat 
that had a fire. They should be going through Long Island Sound tomorrow 
morning. We hope to go out there and take pictures. Natch, all shall be sent 
to Mike.
So far, they are having a great time! But he got no time off in NYC, even 
though we are only an hour away. He had to stand watch, as there aren't many 
on who stand watch.
  Hope to be seeing them in the morning.
   Lane (Seth, '02, NY, 3rd co., YP688)



_______________________________________________________________
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*** USNA-NET post by: LYNN Seth 02 LYNN Helene <hmlynn1@hotmail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA11688
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 23:49:11 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 00:59:41 -0400
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: birthday gifts

The recent postings reminded me of my son's request - a feather bed! I
was surprised but discovered that it made his mattress more comfortable
but most of all, he just wanted to roll it up and stash it in the
morning and not be concerned with making his bed. He found his room too
hot for a sleeping bag whether it was spring or winter. 

Our son is now an ensign coaching/teaching plebes who have chosen
sailing as their sport - (While awaiting flight school). He drives
around in an avon (like zodiacs) on the Severn, coaching and
encouraging, seven days a week. I'm happy to know that he and his room
mate invite youngsters who are on the Yard to his rented house for food
and R&R .

On Thurs., he discovered that the Navy was invited to include 4
qualified off-shore sailing members to join a civilian crew in Corpus
Christi, Texas on a civilain '44 entry in a race in the Gulf - he was
one of the chosen and by 6AM, on Fri., a two-seater training prop plane
out of the Naval intermediate flight school in Corpus Christi- on a
training flight- landed at Andrews Air Force base. He joined the pilot
for the flight down to Corpus Christi and will be on another training
flight (two-seater prop) on Monday back to Andrews. He was so excited
but all I wanted to know was -"Is the pilot instrument trained ?!"
I'm continually amazed at the opportunities that USNA has afforded him
and so many others that I read about here on this list-serve!

Warmest wishes to all the plebe parents as they approach PPW ! 

Fly Navy,
Kathy Cully

*** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen <cullfam@warwick.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA23080
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:27:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: "McFadden" <bmcfadden@email.msn.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: question re PPW
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 11:25:26 -0700
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Hi everyone...
question on the upcoming PPW:  if we (parents of plebes) are introduced to
upperclassmen and especially detailers-what is the correct form for parents
in addressing these mids?  Is it Mr/Ms _____ or what?
Also, in catching up on last weeks emails (we've been gone) it seems that a
lot of the plebes have their sponsors already assigned.  We've not heard on
our sponsors yet.  Will that be assigned during PPW for those of us who
don't know yet?
How crowded does the academy get during PPW--is it about the same turnout as
it was for I-Day or do more parents/family members come out for PPW?
GO NAVY!  Renee McFadden, Redmond WA  (Ramin 09/03)




*** USNA-NET post by: MCFADDEN Ramin 03 MCFADDEN Bruce and Renee <bmcfadden@email.msn.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA29151
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 15:27:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: Missatty@aol.com
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 16:26:49 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Air Force Academy
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Just heard from my son's dad who took him to Air Force Academy today for 
exchange program.  Really different from the Yard--John ran into another Mid 
and they really stand out in their summer whites amidst all the blue and 
cami's.  The only wonderful thing about it--it was 55 degrees this am.  
Someone noted that their plebe summer couldn't be really bad with weather 
like that.  Terre

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Terre <missatty@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA06118
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 19:14:28 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:12:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Oliver <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
X-Sender: joliver@bookworm
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: just want to share with all of you.


	On tuesday night I will be on a flight to europe that will
eventually take me to denmark where John '97, and now a jg,will marry his
love.  He is a typical nervous groom telling his mother that he isn't
excited or nervous.  I will get to go to copenhagen, where he had been
stationed for the past few months, at the embassy.  He met quite a few of
the brass from the US and other countries.
	The excitement doesn't stop with CW.  It just keeps on happening. 
I was always very proud of those who served in the armed forces. Now my
son is one of them.  I am so veery proud as all are.  It is
because of them that we can sit, comfortable in our homes, and not be
afraid of being killed for our beliefs.  For all those on this net who
have served....thank you is not enough.  I will be moving soon to central
florida and I am taking my flagpole with me.  There it will have a place,
as it did here, in honor of all who have served and are serving.  You all
are in the prayers of many people on a daily basis.
	I leave on tuesday night and will be happy knowing that 'my
family's' notes will be waiting for me when I check my e mail. There is
much joy given by all of you who write.  See you at the Army/NAVY game.


					peace and hugs....Jo Oliver
							  Long Island


*** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA14614
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:56:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: SGV98MTX@aol.com
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 21:55:53 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Response to Joyce Burns and all
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

  As I 
approached he stood and smiled and I had a very enjoyable conversation with 
this Ensign.  He told me where to go to get the best pictures.  I told him 
that I did not want to insult him by asking what class he was in, but since 
everyone was in "civies" I had no idea.  He laughed and explained that he was 
an Ensign and was stationed there this summer to teach plebes sailing before 
going to flight school and this day they were taking staff and families out 
for a day on the water.  He talked about the plebes in almost a "fatherly 
way" and how he was looking forward to working with them.  He asked about our 
son and told me that he really loved his YP cruise and visiting the ports of 
Boston and NY. 

This is so "typical" of these wonderful young people!  My husband's son, 
John, is now at the AFA in Colorado Springs...they rode together from our 
home in Midland, Tx.  Telephone calls indicate that they really had a great 
time traveling together to Colorado...:)

We are friends with a family in our area who has a son who is a USNA graduate 
and now flies F14 Tomcats....In fact, I was invited to be at the airport when 
he flew in a "retired" Tomcat to be displayed at the Confederate Airforce 
Museum which is located here in Midland, Tx.  I(we) have also been invited to 
visit with him, his reo and family for the CAF Airshow(wish all of you should 
come see!  Awesome!)...most recently visited with him when he was on 
manuevers in the west and stopped over in Midland....He is so gracious, so 
warm and kind and caring....He always asks about John...in fact, while John 
was a plebe...he wrote a note of encouragement to John stating that 
"Everything you go through is WORTH it!"

He, too, was an Ensign and Taught sailing while awaiting his assignment to 
flight school.....He especially wanted to teach plebes about safety on the 
boats.....and did so......His mom has shared some really neat stories....:)  
There are so many!

The young man I am speaking of is Lt. Mark Tankersley...he is stationed at 
Oceana and got married the same day my daughter married.....which is why 
I(we) couldn't attend his wedding in VA.... Full dress, Sabres, etc.!!!  
Can't wait to see the video and pics!!!!!  
Mark was a terrific sport when he was interviewed by newspaper and television 
stations.....and very patiently took a group of school children on a "Tomcat" 
tour and answered a zillion questions, etc.  One could tell that he was "in 
his element!"  :)

I am proud to say that I am a friend of this wonderful young man who always 
walks up to me and hugs me and always remembers to ask about my husband's 
son, John
and treats me/us like family!!!

You are so right about these wonderful young people!  It is such an honor to 
know them....spend a few secs to chat with them, etc.  One can learn so much 
in such a short period of time.....So, if you ever have a chance to do 
so.....TALK to them!  :)  You will be Glad you DID!  

BE LOUD!  BE PROUD!  GO NAVY!

Sincerely,
Sharon and Gregg Vardaman
John/'01, 8th

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 00-8 VARDAMAN Sharon <sgv98mtx@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA23842
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 21:55:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: SGV98MTX@aol.com
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:54:52 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Response to Kathy Culley...and all
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Thank you for your nice message and encouraging news about someone who 
"enjoyed" being at the AFA!!!  :)
I have no doubt in my mind that you will be hearing the same testimony re 
Your Special Mid in the years to come!  :)
We are looking forward to Navy/Airforce game.....The "Exchange of Prisoners!" 
 John and the other Seven will be "allowed" to go sit with "their own" during 
the game....:)
Am sure other parents of Exchange Students will appreciate knowing that 
others "Loved" their experience!  :)
I watched "The Long Gray Line" (think that is the name) today...on t.v.  and 
have to admit I cried.......All of the Academies produce the BEST of the 
best!  
Good luck and again.....thanks!

BE LOUD...BE PROUD......GO NAVY!

Sharon 
John/'01/8th

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 00-8 VARDAMAN Sharon <sgv98mtx@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA20617
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 06:59:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: <Missatty@aol.com>, <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <3dc4929e.24df4209@aol.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Air Force Academy
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:45:35 -0400
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Terre,

Hope your son John enjoys his time at the Zoo! The exchange program is a
great experience and you should be proud that John was selected for it. It's
a beautiful facility and he should take advantage of as much of it as
possible during his semester there. Also, they usually have a fair football
team to watch, as well.

You mentioned the plebe summer, a.k.a. Doolie BCT, there. I can say from
experience that running non-stop at 8,000 feet above sea level and survival
training/forced marches at 13,000' are genuinely fatiguing at any
temperature, many of which were in the nineties and a couple of 100+ degree
days. But, yes there are those cool morning reprieves from the heat!  ;-)

We'll be watching for him at the POW Exchange at AF-N!

Regards,

Gregg
----- Original Message -----
From: <Missatty@aol.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 1999 4:26 PM
Subject: usna-net: Air Force Academy



Just heard from my son's dad who took him to Air Force Academy today for
exchange program.  Really different from the Yard--John ran into another Mid
and they really stand out in their summer whites amidst all the blue and
cami's.  The only wonderful thing about it--it was 55 degrees this am.
Someone noted that their plebe summer couldn't be really bad with weather
like that.  Terre

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Terre <missatty@aol.com>






*** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA24873
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:41:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: SGV98MTX@aol.com
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:41:11 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Mike and all....re: Response to K. Cully....."The Best of the best!
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Meanwhile, drop and
give us a million push ups    :>)

Dear Mike, SIR!

YES SIR!!!!!  I shall start on them immediately! :)

Allow me to quickly re-phrase!!!     All military academies produce fine 
officers, ladies and gentlemen, leaders, etc.

THE ACADEMY produces the BEST of the BEST, the CREAM OF THE CROP....and don't 
you  FORGET it!  :-)

Sharon
John/'01/8th

 


*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 00-8 VARDAMAN Sharon <sgv98mtx@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA01340
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:24:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: SGV98MTX@aol.com
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:23:12 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Mike and all....Re: Push-ups
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I'm working on them!

=O]o  =O]o  =O]o =O]o  =O]o  =O]o  =O]o  =O]o  =O]o  =O]o  =O]o  =O}o

Ungh!  Ungh!  Ungh!  Ungh!  Ungh!  uNGH! UNGH!  UNGH!  

OUCH!  OUCH!

GO NAVY!  BE LOUD!(but watch what you say!) :) BE PROUD!

Best wishes to all of the parents going to Annapolis to see their Mids....

SV
John/'01/8th

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 00-8 VARDAMAN Sharon <sgv98mtx@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA25148
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:11:59 -0500 (CDT)
X-Originating-IP: [209.156.136.50]
From: "Kay McGee" <kamcg@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Army-Navy Tickets
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:11:36 PDT

Hi Everyone:

This is posted at navysports.com today:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Philadelphia, PA -- A limited number of $36.00 tickets to the 100th playing 
of the Army/Navy game will go on sale on Saturday, August 14th at 10:00 
a.m., the Philadelphia Sports Congress announced Monday.

The game will be held at Veterans Stadium on Saturday, December 4 at 12 
noon.

Tickets may be purchased by phone only at 215/463-1000 (only Visa and 
MasterCard accepted). A maximum of six tickets can be purchased per person.

The tickets going on sale on Saturday are the only remaining tickets for 
this year's game. Both Army and Navy have already sold out their allotment.

-----

Good Luck! and GO NAVY!  BEAT ARMY!

Kay McGee   WA
Mike '01/13th


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*** USNA-NET post by: MCGEE Michael 01-13 MCGEE Kay <kamcg@hotmail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA03484
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 20:29:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: MTBLEAU@aol.com
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:27:53 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Mids on Exchange at USAFA
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi All:
If anyone has a mid at USAFA this semester, and would like to hear 
information/tips , please e-mail me directly.  My son Zach (CO 25, '00) was 
privileged to be chosen last year and I enjoyed it tremendously from a 
parent's perspective.  I attended Parent's weekend and was welcomed 
enthusiastically by all as a Navy parent. They also have a USAFA fam net 
(similar to our parent's net). I also got connected on line with Air Force 
parents who had cadets at USNA and had questions for me !
A wonderful opportunity for Zach. Even though he broke his hand and his leg 
out there (had surgery !), it was a tremendous experience. 
This weekend he is in Denver to be in the wedding party of a cadet friend 
class of '99 (also a high school friend).  Then he flys back to USNA for his 
firstie year ! It has all happened so fast !
Carol M

*** USNA-NET post by: FARRAR Zachary 00 MONTBLEAU Carol <mtbleau@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA21904
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:35:49 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 23:46:25 -0400
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: this weekend

Dear friends,

Just heard from my son that he will be one of the ensigns assigned to
Dahlgren on Thursday and Friday at the Off-Shore Varsity Sailing Team
table during PPW. (Of course, plans are always subject to change) SO, if
you see the table, ask for DUFFY CULLY - he'll be glad to tell you the
joys of racing '44's. He is just back (safely) from Corpus Christi where
he helped his crew win Sun.'s race.

Fly Navy! Sail too!
Kathy Cully

*** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen <cullfam@warwick.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA26992
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 23:22:12 -0500 (CDT)
RECP: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 00:20:14 -0400
From: Dolly <midshippers@go-navy.com>
Organization: http://www.go-navy.com or Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free)- 
 A Great Care Package Service & Personal requests hot line .
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To: Shepdsn@aol.com, "usna-net@navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Re: Nov 20th Hawaii football game
References: <758d6cee.24df8197@aol.com>

Hi Lee: As always, It's great to know & meet people like yourselves who
are willing to share & assist in many ways to support our Midshipmen. We
have many 59 USNA Grads in the area. Thank you.  I will post your offer
to our Parent's network and see what happens from there.    Go Navy!!! 
Beat Army!!   Dolly

Shepdsn@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Dear Sir or Madam:
> My name is Lee Walker Shepherd.  My father, Harry Walker was a member of the
> class of '59.
> 
> I am now living in Hawaii with my husband and two children.  We have a home
> in Kailua and wish to extend an open invitation to any midshipmen traveling
> to the Navy-Hawaii game on November 20th.
> 
> We have accommodations for several people, if there is an interest.  We will
> also provide airport transportation as well as game day transportation.
> 
> Go Navy! Beat Army!  Very truly yours, Lee Shepherd
> 
> (808) 254-1819

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA04602
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 01:49:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: RAmes50695@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:49:01 EDT
Subject: usna-net: PPW
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

TO ALL,

this will be my last post until I get back home on Monday the 16th.  On July 
2 and 3 and 4 .......and..........I thought I would never get through this 
experience sanely. I was consumed with thoughts and fears and anxiety and 
just pure old wonder.  A mom from our parents club in Southern CA. Told me 
about this network and I have relied on your support, your experience, your 
suggestions, your humor and your compassion since that day.  

PPW is finally here and I have never been so well prepared for en event in my 
entire life.  I can't imagine what it has been like for those who have not 
tuned in over the last several weeks.  

Thank you immensely.  I promise I will try to do my part in carrying on this 
great tradition.  GO NAVY BEAT ARMY!!!!!

Judy (wish you could be there too, Bob) Ames
Erin Borozny 03/17 

*** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy <rames50695@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA25783
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:09:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gene & Ruth" <swimva@erols.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Youngster's and cars
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:09:34 -0400
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I have a question about driving privileges for youngsters. When my son was
at the academy ('95) they could have a car and drive but not park it in the
area of the academy or stadium. Parking was on the basis of personal leased
town space or their sponsors. I have heard from some that youngsters can not
own or drive cars at all. Anyone out there have the current ruling on this?

Ruth


*** USNA-NET post by: LASTFOGEL Jennifer L 03-24 LASTFOGEL Ruth and Gene <swimva@erols.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA26330
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:30:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <000d01bee353$1f967f60$6b9faccf@default>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Youngster's and cars
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:28:16 -0400
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Ruth and all,

I am taking this directly from Brief Points, pg. 92-93:

Youngsters and Plebes may not keep a car anywhere near the Academy; nor may
they drive one anywhere near it except when on leave.

Further:

Regulations stipulate


*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) <jsandi@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA06950
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:34:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Walter R Slabaugh" <slabaugh@cyberhighway.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: new subcriber, new plebe mom , SO proud
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:34:20 -0600
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Thanks Mike for getting me on line so quickly.
I have been reading and enjoying the mail.  Has made an e-mail believer =
out of me.
Never touched this computer, or not often.  Now first thing in am, =
pre-coffee, I read the mail
before hubby has a chance to tie it up for the day.  Then again, last =
thing at night, e-mail.
Such information!  It will make this weekend a little less hectic.  Now =
I know I have to be on the field,=20
predawn!
Thank you, Barbara, for calling with this information.  It is so =
wonderful hearing from all of you who are=20
thrilled about USNA! =20
Jon Padgett, my son, is in India CO and a wrestler.  Any others out =
there tied in the same way?
So far J has been very positive about the experience.  I will know more =
when I see him, eyes tell all.
J and I visited USNA April. What an absolutely gorgeous setting.  J was =
impressed and so was mom
Thanks, again Mike
Looking forward to seeing you at the airport, Barbara Thurs 8 something =
am.
Can't wait to get my arms around my young man in white, and any other =
white clad man or woman standing between=20
us!!

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA12533
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:24:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nancy765@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:23:04 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Reform of the Brigade
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Does anyone know what time the youngsters need to be back for the Reform of 
the Brigade?  I know that it is 20 August, but what time?  Are they permitted 
into Mother B the day/night before to move in?

Nancy Rogers

*** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS Stephen J. 02-26 ROGERS Randy and Nancy <Nancy765@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21394
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:11:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geezergear@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:10:42 EDT
Subject: usna-net: plebe basketball championship
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

sent son's adopted sponsor mom a note about his arrival at the "zoo".  she 
sent back a great description of the plebe championship bsktball game that 
was played sun nite as one of son's best buddies coaching his plebes.  said 
that the whole thing was absolutely a controlled riot with plebes and 
detailers alike having one hell of a lot of fun; plebe band wailing away, 
plebes and detailers screaming, plebes being passed over the crowd, and on 
and on.  said it was "like watching a hyper kindergarten class!"  the word is 
the plebe class has some talent in bsketball!!

all is not work, and drudgery!!  it has been my impression that the Navy 
KNOWS these young people need to blow off steam and they give them the right 
venue to do it-especially when they have done well at something!!  lots of 
things they do are fun, even the training evolutions!!

hope ya'll have a good time at PPW!

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Greg <Geezergear@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA22340
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:19:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: rdropek@uswest.net
Delivered-To: fixup-usna-net@navy-usna.org@fixme
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:20:33 -0600
To: USNA Net <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Brigade Reform



Nancy,

All Mids must report by 18:00 (6:00 PM) on August 20.
Permanent rooms won't be assigned the day before.  You Mid
should go to the main office and check in with NASP (Naval
Academy Summer Program) who will find a room for your Mid
with the Transient Company.  Just verified this all with my
son, who then added, "But I'd just stay with my sponsor
family."

Hope this helps.

Pam Dropek
Sandy, UT
Ryan '01 22nd CO


*** USNA-NET post by: DROPEK Ryan Bradley 01-22 DROPEK Rich and Pam <rdropek@uswest.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA20817
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:20:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:19:39 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Tracking problems
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello,
All of a sudden I am not able to open the tracking web site for the USNA YP 
cruise. It states forbidden access. Is anyone else having that problem? I 
have used AOL and Netscape and I get the same message from both.
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
Ltwt Crew
Houston, TX

*** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol <Jhb317@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA20911
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:23:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: Missatty@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:23:07 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Air Force Academy
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Well, my son is at the Country Club Academy and I think he's in shock.  The 
first thing he told me was about the room--carpet, air conditioning, one 
roommate (who has a TV, DVD player, stereo and small refrigerator).  He was 
really disappointed he can't take free fall this semester (God is answering 
my prayers), but will take glider.  Nothing safer than a plane with no 
engine!!  This semester may be as difficult for me as plebe year.  I'm 
comfortable with the Yard, etc.  Would love to hear from anyone else with 
mids on the exchange program.  Terre Vardaman

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Terre <missatty@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA22140
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:58:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Tom Worthing" <worthingt@hutchcc.edu>
To: "USNA" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Navy Bens Basketball team travels to France/Italy
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:58:23 -0500
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This is the first of several installments of news concerning the Navy =
Basketball Trip to France and Italy. Our son, Christopher Worthing is =
one of the team members. I think it is an awesome opportunity for him =
and will be praying for the teams' safety. The team left August 7, from  =
Annapolis and the flight left at 6:30 pm from Washington D.C.  They will =
arrive in Paris, France on Sunday. They flew all night and had both =
supper and then breakfast on the airplane. Chris went through his first =
customs! While going to hotel they saw the Eiffel Tower, Notre Dame, Arc =
de Triumphe, Champs Elysees and more. They got an orientation on how to =
use the mass transit system also !!
    On Monday, they were officially greeted ( Uniforms required !!) by =
the U.S. Embassy. After the pre game meal the day is free for =
sightseeing. Look out Paris !!! They will have their first game on =
Monday against Poissy Yvelines Basket team. I have no idea who that is =
!!!!  Thank you for your prayers for Christopher's trip !!
    Today we received a phone call from Chris after their first game. =
Good news ! Navy won. I failed to ask the score but I do know they won =
and Chris Worthing had 16 points ( 4 dunks !! Most of the conversation =
to me was the description of the dunks !!) and Chris Williams had 18 =
points (the article from Navy Basketball page is at the end of this =
email.) They had seen the Eiffel Tower and taken pictures of it at night =
and have a lot of touring to do tomorrow in Paris. They will be leaving =
Paris on Tuesday in time to get to Dijon and Aus en Provence. The game =
will be a 7:00 pm against the JDA team. I still don't know what team =
that is. The game will be played in the Palais des Sports de Dijon. At =
Provence they will have a walking tour  of the neighborhood and then a =
bus tour featuring Font du Gard and the papal residence of Avignon. Then =
another game against Hyeres Toulon Var Basket team.=20
        I will start the next segment of this newsletter as they board =
the motorcoach for the trip along the French Rivieria to Nice on =
Thursday morning.
Thank you most of all for your prayers !!
Tom & Connie Worthing     worthing@southwind.net
Chris,    USNA   class 01/14 Co. Go Navy!

Men's Basketball Team Wins First Game On Foreign Tour=20

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Paris, France -- The Navy men's basketball team rallied from an early =
11-point deficit to defeat Poissy Yvelines, a professional team from =
Paris, 81-71 in the Mids first of five games in a 10-day trip to France =
and Italy. Junior Chris Williams led the Mids with 18 points, while =
junior Chris Worthing added 16. The inside combination of junior Mike =
Cunningham and senior Sitapha Savane scored 12 points apiece. Junior =
John Williams scored nine points on three-of-three shooting from behind =
the three-point arc. Poissy Yvelines was led by LeRon Williams, who =
played collegiately at the University of Florida and at South Carolina, =
with 27 points.=20
"My biggest concern coming into this game was fatigue from jet lag and, =
outside of a little stretch in the first half, that was really not a =
problem," said Navy head basketball coach Don DeVoe. "I was really =
pleased with the way we played tonight. "=20
Chris Williams enjoyed his first taste of international basketball =
scoring at will against the less athletic French team. "I enjoyed =
playing tonight because the officials let you play. It was a lot more =
physical game than we get to play back home.=20
The fact that the officials let us play worked to our advantage because =
we were a little quicker and a little stronger than they were."=20
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Gard and=20
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Var=20
Basket team. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I=20
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motorcoach for=20
the trip along the French Rivieria to Nice on Thursday=20
morning.</FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D3>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Thank you most of all for your =
prayers=20
!!</FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT></DIV>
<DIV></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Tom =
&amp; Connie=20
Worthing&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
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s,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
USNA&nbsp;&nbsp; class 01/14 Co. Go Navy!</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><BR></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
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On Foreign=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Paris, France -- The Navy =
men's=20
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Yvelines, a professional team from Paris, 81-71 in the Mids first of =
five games=20
in a 10-day trip to France and Italy. Junior Chris Williams led the Mids =
with 18=20
points, while junior Chris Worthing added 16. The inside combination of =
junior=20
Mike Cunningham and senior Sitapha Savane scored 12 points apiece. =
Junior John=20
Williams scored nine points on three-of-three shooting from behind the=20
three-point arc. Poissy Yvelines was led by LeRon Williams, who played=20
collegiately at the University of Florida and at South Carolina, with 27 =
points.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>"My biggest concern coming =
into this=20
game was fatigue from jet lag and, outside of a little stretch in the =
first=20
half, that was really not a problem," said Navy head basketball coach =
Don DeVoe.=20
"I was really pleased with the way we played tonight. " </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Chris Williams enjoyed his =
first taste=20
of international basketball scoring at will against the less athletic =
French=20
team. "I enjoyed playing tonight because the officials let you play. It =
was a=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The fact that the officials =
let us play=20
worked to our advantage because we were a little quicker and a little =
stronger=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3>Navy will play another French =
professional team on=20
Tuesday night. <BR><BR=20
clear=3Dall></FONT></DIV></FONT></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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*** USNA-NET post by: WORTHING Tom&Connie 01 Chris <worthingt@hutchcc.edu>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA22624
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:16:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: Stamperhog@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:15:43 EDT
Subject: Re:  usna-net: YP Tracking problems
To: Jhb317@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

I am NEVER able to track them (have no JAVA except in my kitchen). So if 
someone would be kind enough to let me know where the Alpha gang is, I'd be 
OH-SO Grateful!!!!

THx,
Lynn Bensy

*** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn <Stamperhog@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA25958
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:21:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Norton Smiley" <Norton.Smiley@sagemaker.com>
To: "usna net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Cc: <Jhb317@aol.com>
References: <89bd06e.24e2ee8b@aol.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Tracking problems
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:15:52 -0400
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My guess is the site has been taken down for some maintenance. They
occasionally do this while they make changes /or problem fixes. Chances are
it will be back up in the near future unless The Academy has decided to keep
access to yard personnel only. That is the message one normally gets when
access is restricted to USNA computers only.

Norton Smiley
Devin, '00/22nd

----- Original Message -----
From: <Jhb317@aol.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:19 AM
Subject: usna-net: Tracking problems


> Hello,
> All of a sudden I am not able to open the tracking web site for the USNA
YP
> cruise. It states forbidden access. Is anyone else having that problem? I
> have used AOL and Netscape and I get the same message from both.
> Carol Bringhurst
> 02/19 Josh
> Ltwt Crew
> Houston, TX
>
> *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol
<Jhb317@aol.com>
>
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
>
>
>


*** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton <Norton.Smiley@sagemaker.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA02378
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:29:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Tom Worthing" <worthingt@hutchcc.edu>
To: "USNA" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Navy mens basketball game 2
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:29:26 -0500
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This just was posted on Navy Men's Basketball page. Haven't heard any other
details
Dijon, France -- The Navy men's basketball team had a rough day on the third
day of their 10-day trip to France and Italy.

A bus trip that was supposed to take two hours from Paris to Dijon, France,
took four hours instead after the bus driver got lost. The team didn't get
to the gym until 6:40 p.m. for the 7:00 p.m. game and the Mids never got
untracked, losing to JDA Dijon, 95-63. JDA Dijon is an "A" league team in
France which means it is one of the top professional teams.

Stanley Jackson, who played his college ball at UAB and who had brief stints
in the NBA with the Dallas Maverick and Minnesota Timberwolves, led Dijon
with 16 points. Antonio Garcia, who was the Division II Player of the Year
at Kentucky Wesleyan last year, was also a member of JDA Dijon. Navy was led
by Sitapha Savane with 11 points, while Chris Williams chipped in nine and
Jehiel Lewis added eight.

"We played one of the best teams in France tonight and took quite a beating,
said DeVoe. "It will be interesting to see how the team bounces back from
this."





*** USNA-NET post by: WORTHING Tom&Connie 01 Chris <worthingt@hutchcc.edu>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA03204
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:55:09 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:58:13 -0400
From: Joan and Greg Chlan <jgchlan@richmond.net>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: questions

Has anyone received their football tickets yet? I tried calling the 
ticket office just now (3:30 eastern time);and couldn't get beyond the 
recorded messages. Also, was wondering if any firstie parents have 
gotten ANY info. yet on "our" wkend in Sept.?!?!? Seems as if our time 
frame for schedules is getting a bit close with no information 
available. Thanks for any and all help! GO NAVY!!!!!! Greg and Joan 
Chlan (Kevin '00/2nd company/ Mens' Glee Club)

*** USNA-NET post by: CHLAN Kevin A. 00-2 CHLAN Greg and Joan <jgchlan@richmond.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA17849
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:14:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: "Joan and Greg Chlan" <jgchlan@richmond.net>, <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <37B1D5D5.667E@richmond.net>
Subject: Re: usna-net: questions
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:14:17 -0400
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<<Has anyone received their football tickets yet?>>

 I'm told that they are being mailed out this week. I just received the Mid
ticket. The others are supposed to follow shortly.

Gregg
----- Original Message -----
From: Joan and Greg Chlan <jgchlan@richmond.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 3:58 PM
Subject: usna-net: questionsI tried calling the
ticket office just now (3:30 eastern time);and couldn't get beyond the
recorded messages. Also, was wondering if any firstie parents have
gotten ANY info. yet on "our" wkend in Sept.?!?!? Seems as if our time
frame for schedules is getting a bit close with no information
available. Thanks for any and all help! GO NAVY!!!!!! Greg and Joan
Chlan (Kevin '00/2nd company/ Mens' Glee Club)

*** USNA-NET post by: CHLAN Kevin A. 00-2 CHLAN Greg and Joan
<jgchlan@richmond.net>






*** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA24634
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:00:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:00:08 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: questions
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Yes, we got our season tickets today!!!!.......now if we can just find some 
more tickets for the Army /Navy game........
Dindy Liebert
Peter 00/25

*** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter <LIEBERTCO@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25131
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:03:20 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1980 09:16:13 -0800
From: Stanford <stanford@mail.icongrp.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: exciting summer 8/11/99

Hi Everyone

What an exciting summer our mids are having!  Playing basketball in France!  
Exchange student at AFA.  But let me tell you, the statement "Nothing safer then 
a plane with no engine"  Does make one pause and think.

My oldest son flew out to Md. with his girlfriend to go to a wedding.  She 
convinced 2 of her girlfriends to take them to the academy to visit Tim on 
Monday.  Her girlfriends were fasinated with watching all the "navy boys"

I found out more information on Tim then I have ever known.

Tim is in NTT.  All this week he is playing with the navy seals. He's a platoon 
comandeer right now, in charge of 30 guys, 3 squads of 10.  Last night they got 
into row boats in camoflage and went across the mouth of the river and snuck up 
on something to look at it. (Davids words)
 Next week he'll be playing with the marines.  They will be using paint guns.  
Tim really enjoyed the YP cruise.  He said that they lost the schedule right 
away.  So whoever got hungry first, cooked.  He got to drive the boat.  He said 
that when they went to the Constitution in Boston, they got put to work.  He was 
really surprized.  If you haven't already done so, read the article in the 
Trident.
They were really treated well in New York.  Got to go to the front of the line at 
the Statue of Liberty and the House of Blues.
My sons and the girls had walked over to city docks to eat.  David said that 
there were a lot of mids out enjoying the evening.
The girls were impressed with the all handsome young men in uniforms, and 
exchanged telephone numbers with Tim.
What an exciting summer all our mids are having!  Whereever they are.
I am happy everyone is so willing to share thier adventures.  I hope I never have 
to pray for a plane without an engines.  (which is definately better then free 
falling) (I think)

Be Proud! Be Loud! Be Navy!
Linda
Tim 02/23
Indiana


He really like the

*** USNA-NET post by: STANFORD Timothy 02-23 STANFORD Linda <stanford@mail.icongrp.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA27544
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:20:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: JOESEBAGO@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:18:59 EDT
Subject: usna-net: (no subject)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Please tell me what I want to hear regarding the ability or reliabilty of the 
weather forecasting in the general vicinity of the Academy. I hope it is as 
reliable as the way they predict it up here in the Northeast, that, being 
wrong 99% of the time. We don't want or need any rain this weekend, O.K. we 
need it badly but I for one would rather see those proud "Little Plebe's" 
strut their stuff than have to dodge rain like we did on "I-Day."
The corn can get a drink late Sunday night! Better yet all next week. 

*** USNA-NET post by: FRASER Joseph C 03-C FRASER Joe and Elaine <JOESEBAGO@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA09246
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:27:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: "gandy" <hwgandy@localaccess.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: YP cruise locator is back online!
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:32:09 -0500
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Hey all youngster parents with mids on the 4th block cruise:  
The YP cruise locator is back up- online!!!!!
just thought I would check and there it was!!


Jackie "let me tell you about my mid"  Gandy
'02-30 co. "Dirty Thirty"  D & B contra bass
Guntersville, Alabama 
Go NAVY! Beat Army!



*** USNA-NET post by: GANDY Jonathan Wayne 02-30 GANDY Wayne and Jackie <hwgandy@localaccess.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA09390
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:30:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: NevesPK@aol.com
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:29:59 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Name Change for Holiday Inn
To: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org, usna-net@navy-usna.org

A few days ago someone posted that the Holiday Inn in Annapolis had changed 
it s name..could someone please tell me what it changed to?
Thanks.
Pamela
doug 02/22

*** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela <nevespk@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA14821
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 06:25:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Nancy Patterson" <nancyp@dialnet.net>
To: "USNANET" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Tracking
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 06:23:16 -0500
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When checking the tracking site,  put the arrow over the boat you are
interested in and left click the mouse.  It will give you date, position and
speed.  I notice after it "going down" yesterday,  the last my son's
sailboat position was updated was Aug 10th.  They might be further along
than the tracking shows.
Nancy
*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*
       Nancy A Patterson    nancyp@dialnet.net
       (417) 743-2327         S.W.  Missouri

       Brad     02/CO 19  Men's Glee Club
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*** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy <nancyp@dialnet.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA15726
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:02:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: EFi3346410@aol.com
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:01:45 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Last set of YP's
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

The mids are having a ball in Boston,  doing the normal things,  Cheers, etc.

My daughter was having a good birthday week (Much better than plebe year) as 
were a few other mids.  

Lynn Fisher   Jamie 02/25
St. Louis

*** USNA-NET post by: FISHER Jamie K. 02-25 FISHER Lynn <EFi3346410@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA15874
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:06:24 -0500 (CDT)
RECP: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:04:22 -0400
From: Dolly <midshippers@go-navy.com>
Organization: http://www.go-navy.com or Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free)- 
 A Great Care Package Service & Personal requests hot line .
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To: NevesPK@aol.com
CC: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org, usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Name Change for Holiday Inn
References: <54939d71.24e3b5d7@aol.com>

Holiday Inn is now a Radisson

NevesPK@aol.com wrote:
> 
> A few days ago someone posted that the Holiday Inn in Annapolis had changed
> it s name..could someone please tell me what it changed to?
> Thanks.
> Pamela
> doug 02/22
> 
> *** USNA-PLEBE post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela <nevespk@aol.com>
> 
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
> 
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA23860
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:08:08 -0500 (CDT)
X-Sender: kgift@popmail.voicenet.com
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:08:46 -0400
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: Kathy <kgift@voicenet.com>
Subject: usna-net: YP

Can anyone tell me where the Alpha YP is right now?  When do they arrive in
Boston and how long will they be there?  Thanks!

Kathy and Wendell Gift
Phil 02/3

*** USNA-NET post by: GIFT Philip D 02-3 GIFT Kathy and Wendell <kgift@voicenet.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA23980
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:10:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: NevesPK@aol.com
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:09:15 EDT
Subject: usna-net: (no subject)
To: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Thanks to all who sent info on the HolidayInn and  it change of name.

*** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela <nevespk@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA24966
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:33:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: Stamperhog@aol.com
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:33:15 EDT
Subject: Re:  usna-net: YP
To: kgift@voicenet.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org


In a message dated 8/12/99 10:23:59 AM, kgift@voicenet.com wrote:

<<Can anyone tell me where the Alpha YP is right now?  When do they arrive in
Boston and how long will they be there?  Thanks!
>>

Ben called me last night from "a harbor in S. Mass", where the guys were 
swimming in the COLD water. He said they (on ship 688) get into Boston on 
Saturday. That's all I know.... I'm lucky to know THAT much, and WOULDN'T, if 
I hadn't asked some VERY pointed questions, LOL.  

Lynn

*** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn <Stamperhog@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA25785
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:08:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Sender: kgift@popmail.voicenet.com
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:09:18 -0400
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: Kathy <kgift@voicenet.com>
Subject: usna-net: usna-net 

Thanks for all the information on the Alpha YP.  We really appreciate it.  
Keep me posted if you hear any changes.
	
Kathy and Wendell Gift
Phil 02/3

*** USNA-NET post by: GIFT Philip D 02-3 GIFT Kathy and Wendell <kgift@voicenet.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA05709
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:39:00 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:42:08 -0400
From: Joan and Greg Chlan <jgchlan@richmond.net>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: thanks!

Thanks to all of you responding to questions about mailing of football 
tickets and Firstie parent wkend schedule. When only our mid's ticket 
arrived via today's mail;I did manage to get through to a human being in 
ticket office to ask about our season tickets. I was told that because 
we had ordered additional tickets for Navy/Air Force game, our season 
tickets had not been mailed yet-should be sent within next couple weeks. 
 When I tried to order tickets to Glee Club Concert (since '96 it has 
been Fri. night of the wkend/and is listed on net schedule for this 
yr.);I was told ticket office has no info. yet on the concert. Thanks, 
again, for your responses to my questions. We appreciate your help! The 
Chlans (Richmond,VA...Kevin '00/02)

*** USNA-NET post by: CHLAN Kevin A. 00-2 CHLAN Greg and Joan <jgchlan@richmond.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA07775
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:27:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Host Servers undergoing Service...
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:23:21 -0400
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To all...

This weekend, the Host Server Computers in Austin will be undergoing
upgrades and replacement as a result of funds provided through your
generosity during this latest fund-raiser.

Please LIMIT EMAIL TRAFFIC TO ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL MESSAGES on Saturday and
Sunday, August 14 and 15.

Our Web-site may become unavailable intermittently Saturday and Sunday as
well.

By then, we will be up and running with even better and faster service.

Thank you all for your cooperation.

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org




*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike <mzets@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA03309
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:04:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: SGV98MTX@aol.com
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:03:41 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Re: Live from Annapolis
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Dear Glenda,

So happy that you are enjoying your PPW!!!!  

Thank you for writing that wonderful note to all of those parents/families 
who could not be there for such a wonderful experience.....You really did a 
fantastic job of describing everything for them.....

I can just See you running to keep up with your Mid...:)  I am sure all of 
the Mids in the company were pleased to see that there was a mom there 
recording something "neat" that they were doing.....don't be surprised if you 
get lots of requests for a copy of that video....:)

Here is wishing sunshine, temps in the 60's ;) and lots of hugs all around...

Keep on having fun!

The very best to all of you!
Sharon and Gregg Vardaman
John/01/8th
GO NAVY!  BE LOUD!  BE PROUD!  BEAT ARMY!  OORAH!

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 00-8 VARDAMAN Sharon <sgv98mtx@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA29995
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:03:23 -0500 (CDT)
X-Originating-IP: [207.41.54.178]
From: "Helene Martin Lynn" <hmlynn1@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: YP's
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:03:07 PDT

Does anyone know when the YP's in Bravo (688) come to NYC? Thanks Lane, 
(Seth,'02'NY,3rd co)


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA04080
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:46:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: "USNA-Net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: ANNAPOLIS GRADS AND NAVAL RESERVISTS ROWING FOR GOLD 
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:46:19 -0400
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ANNAPOLIS GRADS AND NAVAL RESERVISTS ROWING FOR GOLD AT MILITARY GAMES -
Two brothers, Naval Academy graduates and Naval Reservists, are rowing for
gold in the same boat at the 2nd Military World Games in Zagreb, Croatia.
Matt and Greg Provencher are among five rowers who gathered at the U.S. team
staging area at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Md., before heading to the games in
Croatia, 5-18 August. The brothers honed their rowing skills at Annapolis.
They're vying in the men's pairs without coxswain. Matt, 28, and Greg, 25,
have rowed together off and on before, but this marks the first time they've
teamed up in competition. "We're excited about having the opportunity to
represent our country and our military," said Matt, a Naval Reserve
lieutenant and 1993 academy grad. Greg, a Naval Reserve lieutenant junior
grade, is a 1997 Annapolis grad. The sons of a 1969 academy graduate, the
Provenchers practiced together for a couple of weeks before going to
Croatia. For more on the Provenchers, click on
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Aug1999/n08111999_9908111.html. For more
about the games, click on http://dticam.dtic.mil/dodsports/worldgnews.html.



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA16672
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:57:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geezergear@aol.com
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:57:21 EDT
Subject: usna-net: no ppw in '97
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Bob et al: i didn't make ppw my son's plebe year either, but have made 2 
trips since and have another planned for this fall.  altho it would be great 
to be part of ppw it has been nice to see him when there wasn't so much going 
on and the yard a little quieter! everyone it seems (but us few) makes ppw, 
but the first trip i made was a lot less hectic, every bit as memorable, and 
just as wonderful for me! if for some reason you don't ever get there before 
"c" week of '03 and you think there may be a problem then you call me, and 
I'll come get you and by god we'll be get to Annapolis!

*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Greg <Geezergear@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA24978
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:07:19 -0500 (CDT)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:01:02 -0700
Subject: usna-net: Reflections/questions
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From: Jo-Bette A Crescitelli <jobettecres@juno.com>

to Bob and all of us who remain--------I have been thinking of the plebe
parents and their mids all day!!!!!  "By now they are together, by now
they are...........".  It also brings memories of 2002's ppw.  one thing
I remember is my son telling us to take him back to the Academy 1 hr
before they had to be back so:  1) he wouldn't be late and 2) he could
get a head start on having shoes shined, uniforms ready etc for the next
day.
Of course, we respected that, but what a difference!!!!!!!  This year, he
is on the yard as a youngster in the middle of his NTT course (crawling
around a field in the middle of the night, doing "stealth" operations and
catching poison ivy!) and I wonder if seeing all the plebes with their
parents brings back memories for him.  (I just told him to stay out of
the mid store this weekend!)  Even though it gets easier, we will always
miss our kids and I really miss my mid this weekend!!!!!!!

Anybody have any info on the last week of NTT--next week--what they do? 
Anybody out there from 5th company??????????? 

Thanks,
Jo-Bette (survived plebe year) Crescitelli,    David  02/5

*** USNA-NET post by: CRESCITELLI David Michael 02-5 CRESCITELLI Jo-Bette <jobettecres@juno.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA02321
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:25:55 -0500 (CDT)
X-Originating-IP: [198.209.19.253]
From: "Sherrie Bayer" <slbayer@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: YP's in Boston
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:25:24 PDT

Hi Everyone,

The Alpha group of YP's arrived in Boston this afternoon.  My son (on 683) 
called from Fenway Park where they were watching a ballgame.  He has liberty 
tomorrow and Sunday and some of them plan to see the US Constitution (Old 
Ironsides), Bunker Hill, and whatever else they can find to do.  He has 
watch Monday and they leave for Annapolis Tuesday.  They will arrive 
Thursday and will spend all night cleaning the boat--his words.  I assume 
pass and review is on Friday.  He's having a great time--except for the day 
he was seasick--and is learning a lot.  Keep me posted if you hear anything 
from Boston!  This summer has certainly been different from last summer.  
The only thing that doesn't change is how much you miss them when they go 
back.

Go Navy,

Sherrie Bayer
Brett 02/29
Missouri


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA02880
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:49:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: "gandy" <hwgandy@localaccess.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Yp 680 in Boston
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:53:57 -0500
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Hello parents of cruise block 4 YP 680 in particular!!!  JONathan called us
a few minutes ago... they were at a Coast Guard Station getting all showered
and cleaned up (he was getting ready to stand the next 4 hour watch)  Said
they had been standing watches  and staying close to shore,  that they were
plannning to go to Bunker Hill tomorrow.   He sounded very up... He did say
he had some "sinus" but reassured me that they had one of the best corpsmen
on board "his" ship and that he would go se him tonight before it got any
worse.   His little brother just told me that Jon told him they put out crab
cages and caught lobsters and crabs and cooked them on the ship.  He said
they also caught 8 sharks, and gutted one to use as bait.
     He also said that while they were in New Yok the last day he ran into 2
new ensigns on TAD there at Wallstreet and they told his group that they had
just missed a robbery and  a shootout at one of ateh banks there on Wall
Street.  He said the police and emergency vehicles were everywhere.   He
said they just thought it was NYC rush hour and really busy.....and that he
wished they had gotten there 15 minutes earlier  so he could have seen all
of  the commotion first hand!
    And let me tell you--( JO-Bette Crescitelli)-- you are not the only one
who is missing her mid  this weekend!!!!! And I bet there are others who are
remaining silent.... I got all  teary -eyed after hanging up and then
reading the posts from there about ppw... Just reliving it all over
again!!!!!!  And I was  the one who thought she  had stopped crying about
her son-- like at the airport!!!!!!  I guess it was just tempoarary madness,
that I thought i could stop being so emotional about my mid....
Jackie "let me tell you about my mid but first i will have to blow my nose!"
Gandy
'02-30 co. "Dirty Thirty"  D & B contra bass
Guntersville, Alabama
Go NAVY! Beat Army!




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA03420
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:14:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Stamperhog@aol.com
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 00:13:51 EDT
Subject: usna-net: YP's in Boston, free time in Annapolis?????
To: slbayer@hotmail.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org


In a message dated 8/13/99 10:38:58 PM, slbayer@hotmail.com wrote:

<<My son (on 683) 
called from Fenway Park where they were watching a ballgame>>

Mine musta been with him... he was at the game, too... called at 6:30 PM and 
made me guess where he was.  He said they had finished their training early 
(because they were GOOD, he said  (:o)). So they were going to get an extra 
day in Boston for sightseeing. 

I'm wondering if there will be any free time for them next weekend, after 
they get back.  I know that the brigade reforms on Friday,  and they do their 
pass-in-review that AM. I would LIKE to go up there, but it is a long trip (6 
hr each way) and I'd like to be able to spend sometime with him. Does anyone 
KNOW if they have free time on Friday and for the weekend when the brigade 
reforms??? I asked him tonite, and he said he really didn't know, and 
probably WOULDN'T know til he got back (which would be too late for me to 
drive up). So I figured I'd ask here. You guys know EVERYTHING!!! LOL
Maybe someone has a mid who is still THERE at the yard,and could ASK them if 
there is any idea of the schedule for next weekend. I'd REALLY like to know, 
so I could make plans to go (or not!)

Thanks,
Lynn 

*** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn <Stamperhog@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA03253
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 08:22:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 09:20:54 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Reflections/questions
To: jobettecres@juno.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Jo-Bette et. all,
I remember all the same things from ppw:  get back early, shine shoes, etc.  
It does get less intense as there is less pressure after the plebe year, and 
they know more of what is expected.  I also remember being a bit of an 
emotional basket-case at times!  Hang in there.  Those of you who are too far 
to make the trip, know that other mids will include yours in family 
activites, etc.   Lunch out, pizza and a movie, or whatever.  We are within 
two hours of the yard, and at various times have gone down to transport 
plebes and youngsters to the mall!  

Back to an earlier topic:  A Thanksgiving invitation will be extended to 
those who can't get home, you can bet on it.  I never know how many mids will 
be sleeping here, and I've told my mid that it doesn't matter if I know in 
advance or not. 

Go Navy!

Amy

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA04568
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 09:41:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: BJSBURNS@aol.com
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:40:56 EDT
Subject: usna-net: A/N Tickets
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi everyone,

    The A/N tickets sold out before we could get through to the Vet.  If 
anyone bought two extra tickets, please let us know.  Thanks, Bob and Joyce 
Burns

*** USNA-NET post by: BURNS Steven R. 02-17 BURNS Bob and Joyce <BJSBURNS@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA06822
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:14:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:14:08 EDT
Subject: usna-net: YP Update
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello,
My mid is Boston and having a wonderful time. He said NYC was very 
interesting. He went to a Jazz Club, Comedy Club and a Swing Club. He said 
the food was excellent in China town and Little Italy. The YP boat that had 
the fire was towed back to the Yard. I am so happy know one was hurt. He 
likes Boston and looks forward to seeing the sights. He has watch tomorrow. 
He heard about the firstie in the motorcycle accident. He is pumped up for 
crew. They now have their own budget and will be getting another boat. They 
plan on competing on both coasts this year. Coach Hurley is very excited 
about this years team. I wish I was closer so I could go to the meets. He 
said he has completed all of the required tasks?? and will have an oral 
review  to get his YP pin. Does anyone know anything about that?
I love my 800 number!!!!!
I love my mids phone calls!!!!
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
Ltwt Crew
Houston, TX

*** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol <Jhb317@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA13181
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:13:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: NGlasgow2@aol.com
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 17:13:22 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: A/N Tickets
To: BJSBURNS@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

What a disappointment!  We waited all week for 10:00 am to arrive and 
actually started dialing at 9:50 for those tickets.  My husband pushed that 
redial button a hundred times and when he finally got through at 10:45 they 
were all sold out!  We too are down in the dumps about it.  We were hoping to 
get a couple of tickets.  Keep us on the "hopeful" list that someone will 
have extra.

Norma Glasgow
Tripp 02/ Company 7

*** USNA-NET post by: GLASGOW Richard 02-7 GLASGOW Norma <NGlasgow2@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA07610
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 02:07:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: Socalday@aol.com
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 03:06:54 EDT
Subject: usna-net: 800 #'s
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Has anyone heard of an 800 number that is provided through something called 
Armed Services Connect or something like that? I have had AT&T for years but 
I am now paying 25 cents a minute. Another mid parent had mentioned that they 
pay 8 1/2 cents per minute and that this company provides that rate for 
military families. Unfortunately I am unable to locate such a company and do 
not remember the name of the parent who told me about this. If anyone has any 
information regarding this I would really appreciate it. Thanks all,
Celeste Day-CA
Lance-00
Trevor-02

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA00766
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 02:41:06 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 00:47:11 -0700
From: Susan Lemerande <lemonade@ivic.net>
To: Socalday@aol.com
CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: 800 #'s
References: <57130d23.24e7c10e@aol.com>

Socalday@aol.com wrote:

> Has anyone heard of an 800 number that is provided through something called
> Armed Services Connect or something like that? I have had AT&T for years but
> I am now paying 25 cents a minute. Another mid parent had mentioned that they
> pay 8 1/2 cents per minute and that this company provides that rate for
> military families. Unfortunately I am unable to locate such a company and do
> not remember the name of the parent who told me about this. If anyone has any
> information regarding this I would really appreciate it. Thanks all,
> Celeste Day-CA
> Lance-00
> Trevor-02
>

Nope, never heard of that one but would be interested in learning more if anyone has
info.  I recently obtained a toll-free # through Sprint and it has saved me quite a
bit, whether it's Ted calling from Annapolis or Pensacola or wherever, or his sister
calling from the mall to get a ride home (after discovering that she has no change for
the pay phone!  Much cheaper than collect calls.)

Susan



> *** USNA-NET post by: DAY Trevor 02 Lance 00 DAY Jim and Celeste <Socalday@aol.com>
>
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA05833
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 03:24:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: "Susan Lemerande" <lemonade@ivic.net>, <Socalday@aol.com>
Cc: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <57130d23.24e7c10e@aol.com> <37B6707F.C5619BDD@ivic.net>
Subject: Re: usna-net: 800 #'s
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 04:23:05 -0400
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I've used USAA Sprint. There is a special number through USAA and a special
deal for USAA members, which your Mids qualify to be members.

Gregg
----- Original Message -----
From: Susan Lemerande <lemonade@ivic.net>
To: <Socalday@aol.com>
Cc: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 1999 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: usna-net: 800 #'s



Socalday@aol.com wrote:

> Has anyone heard of an 800 number that is provided through something
called
> Armed Services Connect or something like that? I have had AT&T for years
but
> I am now paying 25 cents a minute. Another mid parent had mentioned that
they
> pay 8 1/2 cents per minute and that this company provides that rate for
> military families. Unfortunately I am unable to locate such a company and
do
> not remember the name of the parent who told me about this. If anyone has
any
> information regarding this I would really appreciate it. Thanks all,
> Celeste Day-CA
> Lance-00
> Trevor-02
>

Nope, never heard of that one but would be interested in learning more if
anyone has
info.  I recently obtained a toll-free # through Sprint and it has saved me
quite a
bit, whether it's Ted calling from Annapolis or Pensacola or wherever, or
his sister
calling from the mall to get a ride home (after discovering that she has no
change for
the pay phone!  Much cheaper than collect calls.)

Susan



> *** USNA-NET post by: DAY Trevor 02 Lance 00 DAY Jim and Celeste
<Socalday@aol.com>
>
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org




*** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan
<lemonade@ivic.net>






*** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA07486
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 05:49:16 -0500 (CDT)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 06:53:31 -0400
Subject: usna-net: A/N
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From: james e wilson <iudoc@juno.com>

Same story with us .... waited, punched, redialed .... got through at
1020 ... to no avail.  Sold out!
;-(
Still looking for tickets ...
Jim & Ann Wilson
Jake, 02/15th
Columbus, OH

*** USNA-NET post by: WILSON Jacob 02-15 WILSON Jim <iudoc@juno.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22518
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:20:07 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 13:25:39 -0400
From: MAJ Vito Ciaravino <vito@mich.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Hello from a new member

Greeting.I am the parent of youngster MIDN John S. Ciaravino. He is
currently on a YP in Boston Harbor.
I also have a son in AFROTC at the University of Michigan in Aerospace
Engineering. I have three other children still at home with me. I am a
Registered Nurse and in the MI Army National Guard.
What is the simplest way to find out the acedemic and training schedule
for the students' so I can plan a visit to see my son?
Bye, Vito

*** USNA-NET post by: CIARAVINO John S 02-7 CIARAVINO Vito <vito@mich.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA29731
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:41:38 -0500 (CDT)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:22:23 -0500
Subject: usna-net: Home Opener Tickets
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From: P S Schroeder <pss@juno.com>

I have 2 lower gold (across from the Brigade) tickets to the Sept. 4
fottball game vs. Georgia Tech
which we cannot use.  
Penny Schroeder
Jim '99/08
Mike '01/23
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA20152
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 07:11:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gene & Ruth" <swimva@erols.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: PO Boxes
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:11:54 -0400
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Does anyone know the set-up for mail now that plebe summer is over? Our
daughter said they have been issued them but when that goes into effect was
unknown. Also we lost the tiny piece of paper the box # was written on, so
if anyone knows how to get that without calling Mother B please share. The
USNA site only has the old mailing info.

Ruth


*** USNA-NET post by: LASTFOGEL Jennifer L 03-24 LASTFOGEL Ruth and Gene <swimva@erols.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA04817
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:12:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Lynn Johnson <ljohnson@bbnm.com>
To: "'Socalday@aol.com'" <Socalday@aol.com>,
        "usna-net@navy-usna.org"
	 <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: RE: usna-net: 800 #'s
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:11:44 -0600
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We are with Call Home America (800-594-5900) - at 24 cents minute week 
days, and 19 cents evenings and weekends.  Somewhat better than AT&T, we've 
been pleased.  But if there's an 8 1/2 cents out there, we'd be interested 
too!

Lynn Johnson
Kurt '02/6th company

On Sunday, August 15, 1999 1:07 AM, Socalday@aol.com 
[SMTP:Socalday@aol.com] wrote:
> Has anyone heard of an 800 number that is provided through something 
called
> Armed Services Connect or something like that? I have had AT&T for years 
but
> I am now paying 25 cents a minute. Another mid parent had mentioned that 
they
> pay 8 1/2 cents per minute and that this company provides that rate for
> military families. Unfortunately I am unable to locate such a company and 
do
> not remember the name of the parent who told me about this. If anyone has 
any
> information regarding this I would really appreciate it. Thanks all,
> Celeste Day-CA
> Lance-00
> Trevor-02
>
> *** USNA-NET post by: DAY Trevor 02 Lance 00 DAY Jim and Celeste 
<Socalday@aol.com>
>
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
>
>
> 


*** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSON Kurtis W 02-6 JOHNSON Ken and Lynn <ljohnson@bbnm.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA10730
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:57:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: Stamperhog@aol.com
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:56:20 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Parents of 2002 ONLY-Armageddon
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hey- do you guys remember when OUR mids were going to 
I-day?????  The big thing happening was ARMAGEDDON, the movie.  It was being 
released on 7/1/98, the very SAME day our kids were being inducted, and was 
promoted as a "count-down" for MONTHS ahead of time, as "_____ til 
Armageddon".  Around our house, that had a double meaning, as the end of the 
world was also approaching for Ben at the same time. So we got a lot of 
mileage out of that little thing.   

Well, I am making a USNA scrapbook for Ben, and I have always been looking 
for a small poster or something that would fit in a scrapbook, reminding us 
of our little "armageddon" countdown. FINALLY, I have located some 
promotional "buttons" (you know- like the old political ones) that are 3" 
round, and say "Armageddon- Heads up.....   7/1/98". I can get as many as 15, 
if there are any other people interested in having one. 

Mike, please don't "freak" or cut me off...... I'm just trying to provide a 
service here to anyone else who suffered through the "countdown to 
Armageddon". Anyone who is interested, please contact me OFF-LIST ASAP. 

Lynn

*** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn <Stamperhog@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA13049
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:44:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: "gandy" <hwgandy@localaccess.net>
To: <Stamperhog@aol.com>, <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Parents of 2002 ONLY-Armageddon
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:49:21 -0500
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Hey Lynn!
Hold one for Gandy! that movie had a double special meaning for us...Wayne
(dad) was there at the cape working on loading hardware into the orbiter
when they were filming.  He got to  meet Bruce and the gang and took some
pictures for us.   When he called to tell the family (Thankgiving of 97)
that he had met someone named Bruce Willis and did we know who that was, our
soon to be mid  said that was not fair that dad got to meet them, he was not
"cool" enough... Anyway, we got him the movie for Christmas and we also have
a special homemade video the female space shuttle crew member had the some
of the  guys inside (Wayne and the real nasa people) film for her while she
was getting the tour.   So please hold one for us!!!!!Jonathan has a huge
button collection already and that would be a good one to add!!!!!
Thanks Lynn

Jackie Gandy
-----Original Message-----
From: Stamperhog@aol.com <Stamperhog@aol.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Date: Monday, August 16, 1999 1:28 PM
Subject: usna-net: Parents of 2002 ONLY-Armageddon


>Hey- do you guys remember when OUR mids were going to
>I-day?????  The big thing happening was ARMAGEDDON, the movie.  It was
being
>released on 7/1/98, the very SAME day our kids were being inducted, and was
>promoted as a "count-down" for MONTHS ahead of time, as "_____ til
>Armageddon".  Around our house, that had a double meaning, as the end of
the
>world was also approaching for Ben at the same time. So we got a lot of
>mileage out of that little thing.
>
>Well, I am making a USNA scrapbook for Ben, and I have always been looking
>for a small poster or something that would fit in a scrapbook, reminding us
>of our little "armageddon" countdown. FINALLY, I have located some
>promotional "buttons" (you know- like the old political ones) that are 3"
>round, and say "Armageddon- Heads up.....   7/1/98". I can get as many as
15,
>if there are any other people interested in having one.
>
>Mike, please don't "freak" or cut me off...... I'm just trying to provide a
>service here to anyone else who suffered through the "countdown to
>Armageddon". Anyone who is interested, please contact me OFF-LIST ASAP.
>
>Lynn
>
>*** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn
<Stamperhog@aol.com>
>
>Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
>Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
>
>


*** USNA-NET post by: GANDY Jonathan Wayne 02-30 GANDY Wayne and Jackie <hwgandy@localaccess.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA13140
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:46:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Stearns, Michael D" <Michael.Stearns@PSS.Boeing.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org, "'vito@mich.com'" <vito@mich.com>
Subject: RE: usna-net: Hello from a new member
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:43:56 -0700

Vito --

Welcome to the parent's knothole on the Academy. My son (Mark -- '02 12th) is constantly amazed that I know what is going on in the yard, sometimes before he does.

Most schedules are at URL:  http://www.nadn.navy.mil/  in the Academic Dean's web page (third button down on the left).

The schedules are subject to change without notice, but most of the items are static from year to year. And as you already know, your mid's schedule is subject to watch standing requirements and other military obligations.

Again, welcome aboard.


Michael D. Stearns

"Change is required.  There is a process of change, just as there is a process of manufacturing, or for growing wheat. How to change is the problem."
               -- Dr. W. Edwards Deming


> ----------
> From: 	MAJ Vito Ciaravino[SMTP:vito@mich.com]
> Reply To: 	vito@mich.com
> Sent: 	Sunday, August 15, 1999 10:25 AM
> To: 	usna-net@navy-usna.org
> Subject: 	usna-net: Hello from a new member
> 
> Greeting.I am the parent of youngster MIDN John S. Ciaravino. He is
> currently on a YP in Boston Harbor.
> I also have a son in AFROTC at the University of Michigan in Aerospace
> Engineering. I have three other children still at home with me. I am a
> Registered Nurse and in the MI Army National Guard.
> What is the simplest way to find out the acedemic and training schedule
> for the students' so I can plan a visit to see my son?
> Bye, Vito
> 
> *** USNA-NET post by: CIARAVINO John S 02-7 CIARAVINO Vito <vito@mich.com>
> 
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
> 
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
> 
> 

*** USNA-NET post by: STEARNS Mark Elliot 02-14 STEARNS Michael and Vicki <Michael.Stearns@PSS.Boeing.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA17743
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:14:41 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:23:57 -0600
From: Larsen <lars1@execpc.com>
To: Hi@execpc.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org, Family@execpc.com, It@execpc.com,
        s@execpc.com, well@execpc.com
Subject: usna-net: Wow- PPW

Hi Navy Family,

It indeed was a memorable weekend to see our son and all of the
midshipmen as they proudly wore their summer whites. The dress parade
was also very special as each company took its place on Worden Field. We
especially valued the opportunity to attend the Sunday 8:30 Protestant
service with our son Eric.

We were pleased to have the opportunity to meet at least 10 plebes from
Eric's company as well as many of their parents so that now it will be
somewhat easier to match names and faces as he continues to share his
experiences with his fellow squad members.

Eric was extremely talkative as he wanted to share as much as he could
in the time allowed. He again reminded us of how precious the use of
time is as he commented on how quickly time was passing during our
visit. The most special gift he gave us- as I'm sure other plebes shared
with their families- was how much he had missed us. I'm almost crying
now as I think of it.

It was also special to meet so many list serve parents. And we should be
having even more join this family as I too greeted new families with
info on this service.

We are so proud of Eric and of all our children who have made this
decision to serve our country through receiving their education at the
Naval Academy.

May God continue to strengthen our children as they continue their
journey the next four years.

Cindi Larsen
Eric '03/22
Racine, WI

*** USNA-NET post by: LARSEN Eric H 03-22 LARSEN Loren and Cindi <lars1@execpc.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA20756
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:42:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Nancy Patterson" <nancyp@dialnet.net>
To: "Lynn Johnson" <ljohnson@bbnm.com>, <Socalday@aol.com>,
        <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <01BEE7C7.5CD00F40.ljohnson@bbnm.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: 800 #'s
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:39:31 -0500
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AT&T has a new program called Personal Network.  It costs $9.95 per month,
but for that you get calling cards at 10 cents a minute, an 800 number for
10 cents a minute and all long distance placed from your home for 10 cents a
minute.  They also include discounts for overseas calls.
Welcome home Plebe Parent's, impressed weren't you!!??
Nancy
*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*
       Nancy A Patterson    nancyp@dialnet.net
       (417) 743-2327         S.W.  Missouri

       Brad     02/CO 19  Men's Glee Club
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*** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy <nancyp@dialnet.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA20927
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:46:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: ElkoBlues@aol.com
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:45:46 EDT
Subject: usna-net: army/navy
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

We were too late, as many others probably were, in getting tickets to this 
year's Army/Navy Game.  If anyone knows of someone who has extra tickets or 
who doesn't plan on using all that they have, please email me. I would be 
forever grateful!!!!  By the way, I am a new subscriber to usna-net and am 
sorry I didn't know about it last year when my son was a Plebe!  
GO NAVY/BEAT ARMY!!!!
M.Elko
Charlotte

*** USNA-NET post by: ELKO Brett 02-14 ELKO Bill and Meryle <ElkoBlues@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA21935
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:32:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: "gandy" <hwgandy@localaccess.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Video tape warning!!!!
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:37:23 -0500
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About the Herndon, Iday, PLebe summer, PPW , etc, video tapes......
I have a warning to pass on to all of you that have the sets of video tapes
.......And any that you have made that are filled up or that you want to
save just as they are-----TAKE TIME TO BREAK OFF THE LITTLE TABS TO PREVENT
FROM RECORDING OVER THEM !!!!! yes, we learned this the hard way i am sorry
to say.... I was trying to rewind and now I have a few seconds of David
Letterman!!!!
It could have been worse.....
    Oh yes, i just remembered why our mid got to take Leave the weekend
before Herndon-- he had saved his "weekend" that they had been given last
fall because of a football victory and then he had leave the days after
graduation and up to summer school session.

Jackie "let me tell you about my mid"  Gandy
'02-30 co. "Dirty Thirty"  D & B contra bass
Guntersville, Alabama
Go NAVY! Beat Army!




*** USNA-NET post by: GANDY Jonathan Wayne 02-30 GANDY Wayne and Jackie <hwgandy@localaccess.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA22108
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:48:34 -0500 (CDT)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:38:33 -0500
Subject: usna-net: Long Distance
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From: P S Schroeder <pss@juno.com>

There has been SO much mail generated re: the best rates for long
distance.  I  am not trying to sell anything, and I do not want any
referral minutes, so this is an unbiased I-just
-want-to-help-out-other-Navy-parents message.

I am a SHOPPER, and I changed long distance carriers so many times to get
the best deal that my son asked if I was wanted by the FBI.  :-)  He said
every time he called home his calling card was no longer valid.   I have 
stuck with this one for a couple of years because it saves us so much
money.  It was originally just available to airline personnel (we were),
but now is open to all.  Check it out at:

www.airttelnet.com

We are paying 7.9/minute, out-bound as well as on our free inbound 800 #.
 There is no monthly fee, no per call charge, 6 second billing.  I
wouldn't get their calling card at 14.9, because you can beat that with
over-the-counter cards.  The last one I bought at Sam's Club for $15.99
for 160 minutes!  So if our kids want to call home, they use the  800 #,
and if they want to call their friends or relatives, they use the Sam's
Club card.

Penny Schroeder
Jim 99/08
Mike 01/23
___________________________________________________________________
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*** USNA-NET post by: SCHROEDER Michael J 01-23 James A. 99 -8 SCHROEDER Penny <pss@juno.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA26098
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:17:29 -0500 (CDT)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:02:32 -0500
Subject: usna-net: Another deal
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From: P S Schroeder <pss@juno.com>

The SHOPPER here.   I am using Altavista 
www.altavista.com
for FREE internet access.  They run an ad banner in the top inch of your
screen--annoying, but you can make your browser window smaller.   I don't
know how long it will be a good deal--if it gets too busy and you can't
get online, well, that would be it for me, but right now it's working
fine!
Penny Schroeder
Jim 99/08
Mike 01/23
___________________________________________________________________
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Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
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*** USNA-NET post by: SCHROEDER Michael J 01-23 James A. 99 -8 SCHROEDER Penny <pss@juno.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA29707
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:27:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: GWEBB672@aol.com
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:27:14 EDT
Subject: usna-net: New Plebe Parent On Line
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Greetings to all:

Our names are George and Laura Webb. We hail from the great State of Idaho, 
you know the one with so few Plebes. Idaho, at this time, does not have a 
parents' club yet but I am sure that will change soon. I have had the 
opportunity to meet the parents' of two other Plebes from Idaho and was 
encouraged by their desire to start a club. For all those who have been 
president or started a club of your own stand by we will be in touch.

We have just returned home from PPW and I can honestly say I have mixed 
emotions. Before we left for ppw we felt comfortable that our plebe was doing 
well and in fact thought that we would breeze through this weekend. After 
returning home, I must say he is doing well but know I am not. I do not know 
if it gets easier but leaving him was tough. I felt better before I went. 
Further, seeing the look on his face when we said good-bye ripped my heart 
out. 

I know known of us would have missed this trip for all the $ in Annapolis but 
how can you handle it. The little music ditty, Black Monday is very 
appropriate. Sorry about the sobbing but that was tough.

Let me go on, our Mid is very proud of his accomplishments to date. He is 
wondering about the reformation. Some say the brigade is relentless in their 
tormenting of plebes and others say they are too busy to worry about the 
plebes. I guess time will tell. Our son had never sailed before and found he 
liked it a lot. Qualifying with the rifle and pistol went well. Physically he 
is thinner (about 15 pounds) and stronger but he is wearing down. Both legs 
have had shin splints for a few weeks and recently he turned an ankle. He 
also has, in his words, plebe hack. Is all this normal?

I went through and read some of the archives which was very informative. I 
look forward to reading about your plebes and sharing our experiences. What 
stands out the most for us is how friendly and helpful everyone has been. Our 
experience on I-day and ppw was great. Thanks in advance for all of your 
help. 

Webb Family, Boise Idaho

*** USNA-NET post by: WEBB Jeffery M 03-5 WEBB George and Laura <GWEBB672@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA09740
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:06:14 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:05:12 -0400
From: "RALPH D. JOHNSON" <ralph.johnson@mail.dss.mil>
Organization: Defense Security Service
To: Lynn Johnson <ljohnson@bbnm.com>
CC: "'Socalday@aol.com'" <Socalday@aol.com>,
        "usna-net@navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: 800 #'s
References: <01BEE7C7.5CD00F40.ljohnson@bbnm.com>

Sam's Club sells AT&T calling cards with $.10 per minute. Our Plebe took one with him
and there is an 800 number I can call and buy more minutes when he runs out.  Another
possibility that I have used successfully for several months is totally free long
distance. Once your plebe is on the internet, he/she can register with "broadpoint.com".
I won't bore you with the details I would recommend it to anyone. It's totally free,
after you register you get a toll free number, a pin number and you are ready to go.
After registration the internet is not involved anymore, you use your phone the same way
you would use a telephone credit/calling card. I have paid for a long distance call in
several months. I'd compare it to free television, if you are willing to listen to very
short little ads (about 15 seconds each) you can earn 2 totally free minutes free long
distance minutes for each ad you listen to. . There is nothing to buy, there are no
bills, just free long distance. Believe me, I have nothing to do with the company, I'm
just a parent who loves saving money. I called numerous relatives and friends of my
plebe over the weekend and he was able to talk with them from the hotel, totally free.
Try it, you'll like it. Every individual in teh family or household can register and get
the free minutes.

Lynn Johnson wrote:

> We are with Call Home America (800-594-5900) - at 24 cents minute week
> days, and 19 cents evenings and weekends.  Somewhat better than AT&T, we've
> been pleased.  But if there's an 8 1/2 cents out there, we'd be interested
> too!
>
> Lynn Johnson
> Kurt '02/6th company
>
> On Sunday, August 15, 1999 1:07 AM, Socalday@aol.com
> [SMTP:Socalday@aol.com] wrote:
> > Has anyone heard of an 800 number that is provided through something
> called
> > Armed Services Connect or something like that? I have had AT&T for years
> but
> > I am now paying 25 cents a minute. Another mid parent had mentioned that
> they
> > pay 8 1/2 cents per minute and that this company provides that rate for
> > military families. Unfortunately I am unable to locate such a company and
> do
> > not remember the name of the parent who told me about this. If anyone has
> any
> > information regarding this I would really appreciate it. Thanks all,
> > Celeste Day-CA
> > Lance-00
> > Trevor-02
> >
> > *** USNA-NET post by: DAY Trevor 02 Lance 00 DAY Jim and Celeste
> <Socalday@aol.com>
> >
> > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
> >
> > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
> >
> >
> >
>
> *** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSON Kurtis W 02-6 JOHNSON Ken and Lynn <ljohnson@bbnm.com>
>
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org




*** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSON Clay I 03-C JOHNSON Ralph and Cynthia <ralph.johnson@mail.dss.mil>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA10947
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:46:57 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:43:19 -0400
From: "RALPH D. JOHNSON" <ralph.johnson@mail.dss.mil>
Organization: Defense Security Service
To: Lynn Johnson <ljohnson@bbnm.com>, "'Socalday@aol.com'" <Socalday@aol.com>,
        "usna-net@navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: 800 #'s
References: <01BEE7C7.5CD00F40.ljohnson@bbnm.com> <37B96C17.66320CFD@mail.dss.mil>

My message should have read "I have NOT paid for a long distance call in several months"..

RALPH D. JOHNSON wrote:

> Sam's Club sells AT&T calling cards with $.10 per minute. Our Plebe took one with him
> and there is an 800 number I can call and buy more minutes when he runs out.  Another
> possibility that I have used successfully for several months is totally free long
> distance. Once your plebe is on the internet, he/she can register with "broadpoint.com".
> I won't bore you with the details I would recommend it to anyone. It's totally free,
> after you register you get a toll free number, a pin number and you are ready to go.
> After registration the internet is not involved anymore, you use your phone the same way
> you would use a telephone credit/calling card. I have paid for a long distance call in
> several months. I'd compare it to free television, if you are willing to listen to very
> short little ads (about 15 seconds each) you can earn 2 totally free minutes free long
> distance minutes for each ad you listen to. . There is nothing to buy, there are no
> bills, just free long distance. Believe me, I have nothing to do with the company, I'm
> just a parent who loves saving money. I called numerous relatives and friends of my
> plebe over the weekend and he was able to talk with them from the hotel, totally free.
> Try it, you'll like it. Every individual in teh family or household can register and get
> the free minutes.
>
> Lynn Johnson wrote:
>
> > We are with Call Home America (800-594-5900) - at 24 cents minute week
> > days, and 19 cents evenings and weekends.  Somewhat better than AT&T, we've
> > been pleased.  But if there's an 8 1/2 cents out there, we'd be interested
> > too!
> >
> > Lynn Johnson
> > Kurt '02/6th company
> >
> > On Sunday, August 15, 1999 1:07 AM, Socalday@aol.com
> > [SMTP:Socalday@aol.com] wrote:
> > > Has anyone heard of an 800 number that is provided through something
> > called
> > > Armed Services Connect or something like that? I have had AT&T for years
> > but
> > > I am now paying 25 cents a minute. Another mid parent had mentioned that
> > they
> > > pay 8 1/2 cents per minute and that this company provides that rate for
> > > military families. Unfortunately I am unable to locate such a company and
> > do
> > > not remember the name of the parent who told me about this. If anyone has
> > any
> > > information regarding this I would really appreciate it. Thanks all,
> > > Celeste Day-CA
> > > Lance-00
> > > Trevor-02
> > >
> > > *** USNA-NET post by: DAY Trevor 02 Lance 00 DAY Jim and Celeste
> > <Socalday@aol.com>
> > >
> > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
> > >
> > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > *** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSON Kurtis W 02-6 JOHNSON Ken and Lynn <ljohnson@bbnm.com>
> >
> > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
> >
> > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
>
> *** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSON Clay I 03-C JOHNSON Ralph and Cynthia <ralph.johnson@mail.dss.mil>
>
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org





*** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSON Clay I 03-C JOHNSON Ralph and Cynthia <ralph.johnson@mail.dss.mil>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA11120
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:53:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: GWEBB672@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:52:43 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Thanks for the support
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Dear Navy Parents:

I just want to take a moment to thank you for the overwhelming response to my 
posting. We have received so many letters of support that it has made it hard 
to respond to all of them individually. That's great! In case we do not 
respond to everyone I wanted to post this response to say thanks.

We have already met (over e-mails) new contacts within our home State. I 
guess we never paid attention to the previous appointments. I hope we will be 
able to meet everyone and put a face to the letters. 

It is encouraging that everyone is going through or went through the same 
emotions. Today is better for us and we hope our mid. Just a few more days 
until the e-mail starts! What a computer system! Jeff's grandpa was envious 
and said he would have to go shopping for an upgrade so he wasn't outdone. 
Does anyone know which network server the academy uses? Is it better to be on 
the same server for the purpose of Chat rooms or can any of the servers setup 
chat rooms when the opportunity arrives?

Great information about the phone systems. We are looking into 800 numbers 
and frequent flyer options.

Thanks again,
George Webb 03/05

*** USNA-NET post by: WEBB Jeffery M 03-5 WEBB George and Laura <GWEBB672@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA11804
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:21:03 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:21:17 -0600
From: Denbigh Starkey <starkey@cs.montana.edu>
Organization: Computer Science Department, Montana State University
To: GWEBB672@aol.com
CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Thanks for the support (Internet access)
References: <ab5dcfce.24ead13b@aol.com>

GWEBB672@aol.com wrote:

> Does anyone know which network server the academy uses? Is it better to be on
> the same server for the purpose of Chat rooms or can any of the servers setup
> chat rooms when the opportunity arrives?

They have direct Internet access into all rooms in Bancroft (100 Mb fast Ethernet, I
assume, but maybe tradional 10 Mb), so they aren't going through any ISPs.  You can
use any of your local internet service providers for AIM access, or whatever.

Denbigh



*** USNA-NET post by: STARKEY Susan M 02-19 STARKEY Denbigh and Jean <starkey@cs.montana.edu>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA12948
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:57:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:56:17 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Computer Crash
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello,
My computer crashed while I was downloading a CD upgrade. It was defective. 
Twenty four hours later and staying up all night with tech support, it is 
fixed.
Anyway I checked out our nets parents handbook for the various web sites, but 
it does not have the actual site address. I would like the Annapolis 
newspaper and the site that had the postcards of Annapolis. Any other that 
might be helpful. I had one that send great e-mail cards. I would appreciate 
the help. 
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
LTWT CREW 
Houston, TX

*** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol <Jhb317@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA13569
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:16:41 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:27:46 -0400
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: Jhb317@aol.com
CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Computer Crash
References: <ce0ade95.24eae021@aol.com>

Log on to www.nadn.navy.mil  for all your OFFICIAL USNA websites. I
think that this is much more useful (and accurate) than going through
the navy parents net handbook.

newspaper = www.capitalonline.com

postcards = www4.bluemountain.com

Good luck!
Kathy Cully
Campbell Hall,NY
Harold '99

*** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen <cullfam@warwick.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA18020
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:26:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:26:28 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Email and servers
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

If you know your Mids alpha number you can start leaving them email messages 
now (or at least in the next few days) and they will have mail the minute 
they set them up!!!! I left several for Peter and he was thrilled to have 
some mail immediately...it also prompted him to write back to me right 
away!!!! Here is how you address your Mid's email.......
        m(yy)(alpha)@nadn.navy.mil    for instance if your Mids alpha is 1111 
and his/her year is 03 it would read
        m031111@nadn.navy.mil   (note that it is all numbers after the lower 
case m.....my husband kept getting mail back because he was using the letter 
O and not a zero)

Also,someone more knowledgeable can correct me if I am wrong... but I believe 
that USNA has their own server of which we can not be members....so that 
shoots that....there has been some talk about IMing thru AOL instant 
messenger....whether or not they will be able to do that will have to be 
determined by the Academy...in the past it has been OK and then not....

Dindy Liebert
Peter 00/25

*** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter <LIEBERTCO@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA26653
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:10:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: NavyWest@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:10:09 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Computer Crash
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi,My daughter has always enjoyed the cards I send (thats free by the way) at 
the site //www.bluemountain arts.com/
The plebe parents can send funny but inspiration "you can do it"kind of cards 
and all occasion are offered also.It has music and  their system doesn't 
recieve it but  they still  get a kick out of cards.I also send cards to all 
the roommates  at holidays and birthdays which all have enjoyed. Hey, as a 
plebe,getting a smile is a big deal.
As a firstie parent (I can't believe I'm typing that)I have found that 
usually anything you send is shared by all in the room and much  appreciated 
by everybody.
About the numbers long distance.We were told after many very expensive bills 
during Amys plebe year that we should get a 800 number because your mid can 
call you anytime,anywhere  from a pay phone and not worry about having the 
calling card with him or her.We pay 10c a minute and it really has been 
great.We just wanted her not to be more stressed with losing or worrying 
about forgeting a card in her room.I do buy the phone cards for her to call 
her friends  and send them to her monthly.
Good luck to everybody,We have an exciting year to come but the last three 
have been just wonderful in our Parents Club in New York and especially in 
Annapolis.
Sincerely,Pat West 00,19

*** USNA-NET post by: WEST Amy K 00 WEST Jack and Pat <NavyWest@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA28877
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:05:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: SeaShare@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:04:58 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Hello Message
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

A grandfather, as opposed to a parent, just returned from PPW! Hot, but GREAT 
FEELING OF PRIDE...My name is Charles Share, now 72 years, former 6'10"  St. 
Louis Hawk NBA basketball player, father to Cynthia Jaskowiak, grandfather to 
Derek Jaskowiak, PaPa company, 03...Been on line one day; have 25 messages 
broadcast from parent's weekend...some very helpful hints related to phone 
calls, Annapolis newspaper, and post cards...At some point, after I know the 
ropes, intend to join, I presume, the Greater St. Louis, MO parents' club... 
Looking forward to you all taking me by the hand...and as my grandson said 
when I left, "I'm learning to lead by following"...Best wishes to 
all...Seashare@aol.com 

*** USNA-NET post by: JASKOWIAK Derek C 03 SHARE Charles and Rose <SeaShare@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA13405
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:59:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geezergear@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:58:59 EDT
Subject: usna-net: final transmission-farewell, God bless all of you
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I have no doubt that this posting will get me removed from the site-it is 
long, truthful, contains little humor,and is political.
Now that all of us have been to The Academy we need to consider a few things:
(1)our young people are officers in the United States Navy, listed as on 
active duty with the USN.  They are not at UCLA, Brown, Yale, or the 
University of Tennesee.  USNA is not a civilian college, nor is it a 
fraternity/soroity in the true sense of the word.  They deserve our respect, 
gratitude, and mature support.
(2) the end of Plebe summer, or the Plebe year does not mean that the rest of 
the "four years together by the bay" is a cake walk.  3rd class suffer 
depression and frustration-they feel they have "paid their dues" and that 
things will change a lot-they don't!  3rd class need as much support as they 
did as Plebes.
(3) it is tough to make it as a Mid on Navy pay-they need your financial as 
well as moral support
(4) e-mail does not take the place of a letter from home-don't be hurt if ur 
Mid does not have time to answer every e-m u send-they are busy!!!
(5) there are many things that Mids are required to do that make no sense to 
us "civilian nasties".  it is not our place to question the Navy-they have 
been in the business of building leaders for quite a few years!
(6) the USNA grounds is "The Yard", not"the campus"!
(7) not everyone is destined to be an officer in the USN or the USMC-any one 
who leaves has made a good decision for himself and our country; support them
(8) everyone at the USN or who is attending one of the other service 
academies is a special person-notwithstanding any personal agendas these 
people have chosen to protect and defend all of us who can't or won't do so.
(9) your Mid's uniform is not a costume-it is not to be worn to demonstrate 
his position and to satisfy your ego.  If your Mid chooses to wear his 
uniform in public while on liberty that is his choice, not yours
(10) service academy athletics is one of the last bastions of the 
"student-athlete", what "college" athletics are meant to be.  all the sports 
deserve your unqualified support and respect even if they never win a game!  
sometimes what is right is a lot more meaningful than what is expedient (I'm 
not sure about Air Force-a little humor doesn't hurt!)
(11) the next time your representative or senator supports cuts in the 
military budget ask yourself what it is that i am willing to deprive my 
son/daughter of, or their high school classmates who serve in the enlisted 
ranks?  yes, there is waste in the military just as there is in any 
government bureaucracy.  Do the people who protect this country (and those 
people around the world who can't defend themselves) not deserve a living 
wage, good medical care, the tools to get their job done?  We must 
investigate and support those measures that are just and right.  Sailors and 
NCOs should not have to make a "long deployment" then have only 30 days or so 
off before making another deployment.  Yes our people are volunteers, yes 
they get a lot for what they give, but to keep quality people in the service 
of this country they must be treated in a manner equal to the private 
sector-if not better!!!!!!
(12) the backbone of The Service is the sailor and rifleman.  They deserve 
the respect that we give our officers.
(13) all of us need to absorb some of the selflessness of our Mids-dedication 
to The United States and the welfare of all should exceed the wants of any 
group
(14) those of us who have not served in the military of the United States can 
not understand how these people feel or what sacrifices they make on our 
behalf.  It is, however, our duty to TRY to understand and appreciate what 
they do-read, listen, follow the example
(15) your Mid will rely on you less and less. The closest friends they will 
ever have will be made in The Service-don't be hurt or offended if they'd 
rather go to the beach with buddies than sit at home and watch TV with you, 
or dress up in uniform and go visit Aunt Alice!!
(16) The military is not always just-is your workplace???
(17) life at The Academy is tough-how is it for those folks who graduated 
with your Mid who are now serving in the fleet, in a rifle company of the 
USMC, the infantry of the USA, or on a vessel of the USCG?
 (18) be supportive of your Mid in everything he/she wants to do
(19) not everyone in The Service can fly, serve on a sub, be a Seal-there are 
many, many positions in The Service that are just as important and essential 
to our well being as these not the least of which is service in the USMC.
(20) some of the best educated and well rounded people in this country come 
from the service academies!




*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Greg <Geezergear@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA14387
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:59:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: final transmission-farewell, God bless all of you
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:58:31 -0400
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To all,

RE: Greg  Vardaman's message... <<<I have no doubt that this posting will
get me removed from the site-it is long, truthful, contains little humor,and
is political.>>>

I spoke with Greg shortly after receiving this message.  In a nutshell, I
said...

I found no rules violations in the message.  It is truthful and to the
point, albeit a little long winded. :>)   I see no reason for Greg to leave
the List as a result of this message and told him so.

As a matter of fact, I was less than polite about the fact that I've gotten
the reputation of being the Net-Nazi of our Listserver and was a little
disappointed in his certainty that expressing "the fact of Navy life" would
get him in trouble.  If any of our members found it offensive, reread it and
remember that sometimes the truth hurts.

Greg was expressing his thoughts about the commitment and dedication
necessary for our sons and daughters to pledge their allegiance to the
United States Naval Academy and the US Navy.  Life on the Yard is not the
same as being "away at college" and I think that most parents have a much
greater understanding of this NOW than they had even six weeks ago.

This Listserver is to provide advice and guidance for other parents.  Greg's
message did more to further that cause and our mission than most of the
other traffic for the past week.

Greg and all, experience is earned, usually the hard way.  If another parent
can pass on a little of it through this listserver, all the better.
Remember, someday you will all be at the top of the experience hill and will
be able to help others with the hard climb.  Keep those postings coming.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org





*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike <mzets@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA14495
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:04:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Countdown Clock
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:03:12 -0400
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To all...

Correction:  The Month in the text was incorrect.  "MY" typo.  It's 19 MAY
2000 but the number of days was correct in the counter -275.

Mike (I'll learn the difference between five and six, someday) Zets


*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike <mzets@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA15667
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:24:55 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:36:10 -0400
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: re:final transmission

Dear Greg & all,

You said what needed to be said and to those who needed to listen, I
hope they listened well. Our 'children' have chosen the military and the
chain of command doesn not include their mothers, nor their senators.
They do, however, need our support and understanding as they solve their
problems and live the life they have chosen.

Go Navy,
Kathy Cully

*** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen <cullfam@warwick.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA10404
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:57:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Rhonda Densmore" <rd4navy02@mindspring.com>
To: <Geezergear@aol.com>, <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <44b4162f.24eb7b73@aol.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: final transmission-farewell, God bless all of you
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:59:41 -0500
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Thank you, Greg! I, for one, appreciate your truthful and right to the point
message. It is something we all should definitely think about. Well done!

Rhonda Densmore
PROUD Mom of Dave Tickle '02, 22nd
Trussville, Alabama


----- Original Message -----
From: <Geezergear@aol.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 9:58 PM
Subject: usna-net: final transmission-farewell, God bless all of you


> I have no doubt that this posting will get me removed from the site-it is
> long, truthful, contains little humor,and is political.
> Now that all of us have been to The Academy we need to consider a few
things:
> (1)our young people are officers in the United States Navy, listed as on
> active duty with the USN.  They are not at UCLA, Brown, Yale, or the
> University of Tennesee.  USNA is not a civilian college, nor is it a
> fraternity/soroity in the true sense of the word.  They deserve our
respect,
> gratitude, and mature support.
> (2) the end of Plebe summer, or the Plebe year does not mean that the rest
of
> the "four years together by the bay" is a cake walk.  3rd class suffer
> depression and frustration-they feel they have "paid their dues" and that
> things will change a lot-they don't!  3rd class need as much support as
they
> did as Plebes.
> (3) it is tough to make it as a Mid on Navy pay-they need your financial
as
> well as moral support
> (4) e-mail does not take the place of a letter from home-don't be hurt if
ur
> Mid does not have time to answer every e-m u send-they are busy!!!
> (5) there are many things that Mids are required to do that make no sense
to
> us "civilian nasties".  it is not our place to question the Navy-they have
> been in the business of building leaders for quite a few years!
> (6) the USNA grounds is "The Yard", not"the campus"!
> (7) not everyone is destined to be an officer in the USN or the USMC-any
one
> who leaves has made a good decision for himself and our country; support
them
> (8) everyone at the USN or who is attending one of the other service
> academies is a special person-notwithstanding any personal agendas these
> people have chosen to protect and defend all of us who can't or won't do
so.
> (9) your Mid's uniform is not a costume-it is not to be worn to
demonstrate
> his position and to satisfy your ego.  If your Mid chooses to wear his
> uniform in public while on liberty that is his choice, not yours
> (10) service academy athletics is one of the last bastions of the
> "student-athlete", what "college" athletics are meant to be.  all the
sports
> deserve your unqualified support and respect even if they never win a
game!
> sometimes what is right is a lot more meaningful than what is expedient
(I'm
> not sure about Air Force-a little humor doesn't hurt!)
> (11) the next time your representative or senator supports cuts in the
> military budget ask yourself what it is that i am willing to deprive my
> son/daughter of, or their high school classmates who serve in the enlisted
> ranks?  yes, there is waste in the military just as there is in any
> government bureaucracy.  Do the people who protect this country (and those
> people around the world who can't defend themselves) not deserve a living
> wage, good medical care, the tools to get their job done?  We must
> investigate and support those measures that are just and right.  Sailors
and
> NCOs should not have to make a "long deployment" then have only 30 days or
so
> off before making another deployment.  Yes our people are volunteers, yes
> they get a lot for what they give, but to keep quality people in the
service
> of this country they must be treated in a manner equal to the private
> sector-if not better!!!!!!
> (12) the backbone of The Service is the sailor and rifleman.  They deserve
> the respect that we give our officers.
> (13) all of us need to absorb some of the selflessness of our
Mids-dedication
> to The United States and the welfare of all should exceed the wants of any
> group
> (14) those of us who have not served in the military of the United States
can
> not understand how these people feel or what sacrifices they make on our
> behalf.  It is, however, our duty to TRY to understand and appreciate what
> they do-read, listen, follow the example
> (15) your Mid will rely on you less and less. The closest friends they
will
> ever have will be made in The Service-don't be hurt or offended if they'd
> rather go to the beach with buddies than sit at home and watch TV with
you,
> or dress up in uniform and go visit Aunt Alice!!
> (16) The military is not always just-is your workplace???
> (17) life at The Academy is tough-how is it for those folks who graduated
> with your Mid who are now serving in the fleet, in a rifle company of the
> USMC, the infantry of the USA, or on a vessel of the USCG?
>  (18) be supportive of your Mid in everything he/she wants to do
> (19) not everyone in The Service can fly, serve on a sub, be a Seal-there
are
> many, many positions in The Service that are just as important and
essential
> to our well being as these not the least of which is service in the USMC.
> (20) some of the best educated and well rounded people in this country
come
> from the service academies!
>
>
>
>
> *** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Greg
<Geezergear@aol.com>
>
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
>
>


*** USNA-NET post by: TICKLE David Alan 02-22 DENSMORE Rhonda <rd4navy02@mindspring.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA19533
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:37:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sdalziel@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:36:59 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: final transmission-farewell, God bless all of you
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Well said Greg!

Thank you for reminding us all that the career choices our sons and daughters 
have made are very serious choices.   As we see them get a few years under 
their belts...it becomes more and more obvious how serious these choices are. 
 

As American citizens we do have the power to try to make some well needed 
changes....

Be Proud!!!!  Be Navy!!!

Sue Dalziel
Scott 01/26
Nashville

*** USNA-NET post by: DALZIEL Scott 01 DALZIEL Ken and Sue <Sdalziel@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA23408
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:32:21 -0500 (CDT)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:59:37 -0500
X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-5
X-Juno-Att: 0
X-Juno-RefParts: 0
From: P S Schroeder <pss@juno.com>

It was brought to my attention that I had a typo in the website address
of Airtel (long distance carrier). 
Here it is corrected.
http://www.airtelnet.com/
Penny Schroeder
Jim '99/08
Mike '01/23
___________________________________________________________________
Get the Internet just the way you want it.
Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

*** USNA-NET post by: SCHROEDER Michael J 01-23 James A. 99 -8 SCHROEDER Penny <pss@juno.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA24834
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:42:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: KKStuart@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:42:29 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Navy pride & Final Transmission
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

  I found nothing offensive or abusive in the  statements made by Geezergear. 
 In fact, as a Navy wife of 20 years, I find everything he said as truth & 
worth the discussion.  One of the long standing complaints in the military is 
the lack of respect military personnel receive.  Believe me, they don't do it 
for the great pay & outstanding benefits.  First let me preface this with a 
little background.  
Some of you have read my previous e-mails about the military, so now I go a 
little further.     I feel very strongly that those who choose to serve are 
special people.  Because I have been involved with the Naval Aviation side of 
the military, I find myself having even more love for those who serve.  Ask 
any Naval Aviator how many memorial services he/she has attended in his/her 
career - you'd be surprised at the number.  I for one know all too well the 
loss of losing a loved one & too many friends to count who gave their life in 
service to their country.  I'm not saying that Aviation is special & that no 
other group hasn't given his life, I'm trying to convey the depth of service 
that is out there.  After losing my first husband to an aviation accident, 
remarrying  yet another Aviator, I had ambivilent feelings when my son 
announced he was going to the Naval Academy with hopes of flying.  That's a 
tough thing to live with.  I know, however, that he is right where God wants 
him and where he wants to be.  I am very proud, as is his father who watches 
from Heaven, and his father who raised him.  So to all of you out there, 
enjoy your son's/daughter/s  time in the service.  It won't be easy, but it 
is definately exciting & worth it.  
I second the things that were past on by GEEZER.   Everyone must remember 
that their sons & daughters are not a  "typical" college. It is far SUPERIOR 
It is obvious that these fine young men & women chose the more difficult 
route to a higher education.  They knew that at the Naval Academy, as well as 
all service academies (OK, Air Force????) {just kidding}, offer much more 
than a superb education.   
It is very difficult for those who have not been exposed to the military  & 
it's way of thinking.  The Navy is far from perfect, but it has been at this 
for a long, long time; it is also built upon a very long history of British 
Naval customs.  Sometimes people cannot understand why we do the things we 
do, but everything is steeped in a tradition & it is that tradition that 
carries us through difficult times.  Your sons & daughter will learn more 
than they care to know about traditions &  they will beam with pride for 
being part of that tradition.  
Every mother & father should share in that pride.  Those that I met at 
parent's weekend were glowing with pride for their son or daughter.  I was 
very proud to be part of the group that calls themselves the parents of 2003. 
 
Again, I want to say what a joy it was watching so many parents beaming with 
pride, it just made me feel warm & fuzzy inside. 
Have a great day.
KKStuart

*** USNA-NET post by: STUART Christopher 03-14 STUART Karen K. <KKStuart@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA25142
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:52:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Van Spiros" <BismarkS@worldnet.att.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: bravo Greg
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:49:02 -0400
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal

Bravo Greg,
I applaud your concern, candor and honesty.  Four years at USNA is a
tremendous emotional roller coaster ride and commitment.  Our
sons/daughters are returning to Reform knowing that many of their '01
classmates will not be returning. They've spent this summer with the fleet,
and many other academy opportunities meant to broaden their understanding
of the various commitments within the Navy and Marine Corps.  Then they've
returned home for a few weeks to their "too often partying" friends who
can't understand why they can't call in "sick" and return to the Academy on
Monday, instead of Reform on Friday.  They know they've made it through the
emotional and physical rigors of Plebe year; and the tremendous academic
and emotional conflicts of youngster year.  Now they have to make the
commitment on the first day of class for 7 years. 
The completion of Plebe summer and then Plebe year is a milestone on a very
challenging career.  But it's not the end, just the beginning.  The
pressure never really lets up.  All our Mids of ALL classes should be
encouraged, constantly bolstered and prayed for.   Email is wonderful, but
they all like to receive snail mail as well.  We've been told that nothing
is worse than an empty mail slot or a mail slot with enticements for credit
cards. 
As the new AC year begins, I wish all our Mids a very healthy, and
successful year.
Go Navy!!
Carolyn Spiros
Boston, MA

*** USNA-NET post by: SPIROS Michael 01-30 SPIROS Van and Carolyn <BismarkS@worldnet.att.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA25947
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:42:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: SGV98MTX@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:42:36 EDT
Subject: usna-net: To Mike and All
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Thanks to all of you for supporting my husband's letter to the parent-net.
We were stunned to see the amount of personal emails Supporting everything 
Gregg shared.  Several Emails from "high ranking" officers serving in the 
Navy, Marine Corp, etc.  :)  They completely agreed with and supported 
EVERYTHING Gregg said.  They wished that more people would share the 
realities of life in the military with the less experienced so that people 
would have a better understanding of what these young ones are going through 
now and what is still to come over the next four years and Beyond!!!!  
Having come from "military" families (Gregg's dad served in the Navy, my dad 
was Radio Oper. serving on the "Front line" during the Phillipine Campaign in 
WWII.. U.S. Army Calvary...also served in the Korean Conflice...other cousins 
and uncles served in and retired from the Navy...also uncles in the 
AirForce).... We are both passionately patriotic and Extremely PROUD of all 
of the people who sacrifice so much to allow us to be and do whatever we 
choose to be and do!!!
Again, thanks to all of you for the enormous amount of support.  
God Bless you and your Mid!  God Bless ALL of you, where ever you are in this 
world and whatever it is you do who sacrifice so much to keep our U.S.A. safe 
and FREE!
Very sincerely,
Sharon Vardaman

GO NAVY!  BE LOUD!  BE PROUD! BEAT ARMY!  OO-RAH!  GOD BLESS US ALL!


*** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Sharon <sgv98mtx@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA17709
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:48:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: MrVinnyD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:48:22 EDT
Subject: usna-net: (no subject)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello.  Jane DeMichele here.  Mother of Gianni, 03, Charlie-6.  Wonderful 
seeing her  and off of the mids during parents weekend.  We took three out 
with us Sat. night who had no parents there for the weekend.  Warmed the 
cockles of my heart!  Does anyone know if there is any kind of liberty this 
weekend?  Thanks.  Keep the great comments coming.  I don't know what I would 
do without all of this to read.  I think it has been just about the only 
thing that has kept me sane during the last 6 weeks.

GO NAVY FOREVER!!!!!!

*** USNA-NET post by: DEMICHELE Gianni B 03 DEMICHELE Vince and Jane <MrVinnyD@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA04439
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:49:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: JOESEBAGO@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:48:31 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: final transmission-farewell, God bless all of you
To: Geezergear@aol.com
CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Maybe the message here was to wake a few people up, but maybe I'm reading 
this wrong but I also detect a tone of bitterness. Why sir? If we are not in 
the order of the "Chain of Command" why then do you speak for our sons and 
daughters chosen profession? I did SERVE, quite proudly, I am not ashamed to 
admit! Probably the three most productive and life-experienced gaining years 
of my life. As you so aptly put, not which of the least is The United States 
Marine Corps. I suppose as others have so responded, everyone is surely 
guaranteed the right to freedom of speech, thanks to the millions of us 
veterans, but I can't for the life of me figure out why your post came at the 
conclusion of such an emotional and memorable weekend that thousands were 
able to enjoy with their "PLEBE'S."
Semper Fi,
Joe Fraser

*** USNA-NET post by: FRASER Joseph C 03-C FRASER Joe and Elaine <JOESEBAGO@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA21645
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:37:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:36:49 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Help Again
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Since my computer crash I lost the UPS address to Bancroft. I think it is
Midn. 3rd C
19th Company
Bancroft Hall
Bancroft Express Office
Annapolis,MD 21412
If I am correct you do not need to respond. I am planning on mailing the box 
tomorrow.
Thanks again,
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
LTWT CREW
Houston, TX

*** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol <Jhb317@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA23418
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:16:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: HeyNita@aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:15:12 EDT
Subject: usna-net: YP's....block 4
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi everyone,

Has anyone taken any pictures of the YP's during block 4? Or is anyone going 
to take pictures when they return to Annapolis?  Just curious as we have seen 
picts from the previous three YP's and living here in S. Cal prevents us from 
meeting the ships.  Any information would be appreciated.  Thanks a lot.

Juanita Chauvin
Andrew '02, Mens Swimming

*** USNA-NET post by: CHAUVIN Andrew John 02-4 CHAUVIN Juanita <HeyNita@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA24846
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:33:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Nancy Patterson" <nancyp@dialnet.net>
To: "USNANET" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <34a46808.24edea00@aol.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: YP's....block 4
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:31:35 -0500
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Make sure you go to "our" website and click on that camera go to Baycam and
around 7:30 to 9 EDT you can see the YP's lining up and going into the Yard
for "Pass in Review"
"Our" website is the Navynet site where Mike Zets signs new folks up, has
the pictures and countdown clock.  The camera is next to the weather info on
the homepage.
I know in CA you will have to be up early, but it is worth it!!
Nancy
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       Nancy A Patterson    nancyp@dialnet.net
       (417) 743-2327         S.W.  Missouri

       Brad     02/CO 19  Men's Glee Club
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*** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy <nancyp@dialnet.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA28741
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:46:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:45:58 EDT
Subject: usna-net: YP 4th Block
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

They sail in tomorrow. Can anyone go and take pictures???? Cheer for them???
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
LTWT CREW
Houston, TX 

*** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol <Jhb317@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA08948
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:28:14 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1980 02:11:54 -0800
From: Stanford <stanford@mail.icongrp.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: firsties/8/19/99

Hi everyone

I am interested in hearing about plans for the firstie weekend.  I am 
also interested in plans beining made for commissioning week.

I like to be prepared way in advance.  At least to know what to expect 
and what is expected.

Thanks

Go Navy!
Linda
Tim02/23
Cedar Lake, In.

*** USNA-NET post by: STANFORD Timothy 02-23 STANFORD Linda <stanford@mail.icongrp.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA14119
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:50:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: "The Kerchevals" <kercheval_hou@msn.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Hello all
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:50:37 -0500
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We are Rick & Paula Kercheval from Houston (Texas Gulf Coast Parents Club.)
We are in the wonderfully unique position of having our oldest two of four
children  - Jason/02/18 (D&B Contra last year, Sprint Football this year) &
Christy/03/14 (D&B Baritone) at the yard. We have just returned from our
second PPW in two years and were amazed at the differences. While the major
things were the same, there were some very real differences. For one the
weather. Last year at PEP we almost froze, this year that was not the
problem. This year there was a PEP program handed out which made finding our
Plebe very easy (impossible last year) and you knew what exercises they were
doing. This year they did a company run as part of PEP and it seemed to go
much faster than last year. Granted every Plebe we spoke with was shocked at
how easy the Friday workout was compared to "normal" but you had the feeling
this year was a little better organized. Part of the difference for us was
knowing what to expect and part is gender related - our daughter has always
told us more than our son. From first grade on I would always find out about
the great things our son got to do the next year when our daughter did them.
All he ever talked about was recess and lunch (some things never change.)
Our favor part of both weekends were the church services. We attended both
the 8:30 and 11:00 Protestant services and there is nothing that can
compare. The chaplains are truly a God send. Tell your mids to get to know
them. They were a help for our son more than once last year. We look forward
to all the info form the list and have already enjoyed the archives - only
wish we hadn't waited to long to sign up.

Paula



*** USNA-NET post by: KERCHEVAL Jason T 02-18 Christie L 03-14 KERCHEVAL Rick and Paula<kercheval_hou@msn.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA28737
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:03:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: DCA01@aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:03:11 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Firstie's Weekend
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org, swaldmann@hotmail.com, critter@wcoil.com

The schedule and general information for Firstie's Parents' Weekend is at
http://www.usna.edu/PAO/Parents00.html

We just received the information from the Public Affairs Office.  We also got 
our football tickets in the mail today.

My husband tried to tell me that the Mid Store would be closed for remodeling 
- FAT CHANCE!!!!!!!

Would you like to wear the red, white and blue ribbons??  Maybe we can 
encourage more to get on the web.  I liked the idea of the one parent who had 
cards made with the addresses.

I'm hoping to meet some of you in September.

GO NAVY

Nancy Aubel
Erik 00/12
Dayton, Ohio

*** USNA-NET post by: AUBEL Erik 00-12 AUBEL Nancy and Dave <DCA01@aol.com >




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA01516
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:58:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Member Count
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:54:21 -0400
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To all...

It is with a large grin that I have the privilege of announcing that as of a
moment ago, we now number 600 families in USNA-Net.  Counting a large number
of Mr./Mrs that only count as one address, we just about number 1,000
individual members.

Thanks to one and all for the special effort this past summer and at PPW to
recruit new members to this service.  In January, when I assumed the duties
of Moderator from Dolf Beil, there were fewer than 80 members on the
Listserver and USNA-Plebe had just been started.  We're doing a great job.
Pat yourselves on the back and don't forget to welcome all of these new
members with the same enthusiasm the with which you were welcomed when you
joined.

GO NAVY - BEAT army!

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org




*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike <mzets@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA16997
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 06:38:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ppdsr5@aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:37:37 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Member Count
To: mzets@mail.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi All!  We are Philip & Phylis Tranotti from Central NJ (Metuchen).  I 
"stumbled" across this link while searching the USNA sites just before PPW 
and immediately submitted our info.   I was thrilled to know that this "mail 
service" was available.  We have a close friend whose son is now at the Coast 
Guard Academy and he kept telling us about their e-mail and what a comfort it 
has been for them to chat with other parents.   Plebe summer has been a 
unique experience for us at the homefront. David  is our oldest (of 3) and 
his complete absence was quite an adjustment. We are getting used to it, 
especially after PPW, having seen how well he has done and how pleased he is 
with his new life.   Still we are happy to have this opportunity to share 
information and ask questions - and just to share this wonderful experience 
with others who relate.  Greetings to all !

Phylis-NJ 
David (03/26)

*** USNA-NET post by: TRANOTTI David Paul 03-26 TRANOTTI Phylis and Philip <Ppdsr5@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA17608
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:11:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:10:30 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: firsties/8/19/99
To: stanford@mail.icongrp.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org
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<A HREF="http://www.usna.edu/PAO/Parents00.html">First Class  Parents' 
Weekend Handbook</A>
http://www.usna.edu/PAO/Parents00.html 

*** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy <amysoule@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA22329
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:34:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Pieter Dearolf" <pdearol1@tampabay.rr.com>
To: "NAVY NET" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Cc: "NAVY PLEBE" <usna-plebe@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Columbus day
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:30:28 -0400
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We are planning to attend the NAVY-AIRFORCE game on Oct 9th and noticed that
the academy has no classes on Monday the !!th (Columbus Day)  Does anyone
know if the plebes would be able to spend time with family on that day
(either yard or town liberty)?  Also, I recently read that the week prior to
Herndon classes are not in session and plebes have liberty then also.  How
soon before Herndon can we anticipate being able to see our plebe?
Wanda Dearolf
Bryan 03/14



*** USNA-NET post by: DEAROLF Bryan Richard 03-14 DEAROLF Peter and Wanda <pdearol1@tampabay.rr.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA22565
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:43:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: "Pieter Dearolf" <pdearol1@tampabay.rr.com>,
        "NAVY NET" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Cc: "NAVY PLEBE" <usna-plebe@navy-usna.org>
References: <002301beeb10$3043b3e0$79de5c18@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Columbus day
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:42:45 -0400
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Typically. Sunday will be a town liberty (0100 sing in) and Monday yard
liberty. I'm not sure if they have stuck to that for this year or made the
decisions yet.

Gregg
----- Original Message -----
From: Pieter Dearolf <pdearol1@tampabay.rr.com>
To: NAVY NET <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Cc: NAVY PLEBE <usna-plebe@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 9:30 AM
Subject: usna-net: Columbus day



We are planning to attend the NAVY-AIRFORCE game on Oct 9th and noticed that
the academy has no classes on Monday the !!th (Columbus Day)  Does anyone
know if the plebes would be able to spend time with family on that day
(either yard or town liberty)?  Also, I recently read that the week prior to
Herndon classes are not in session and plebes have liberty then also.  How
soon before Herndon can we anticipate being able to see our plebe?
Wanda Dearolf
Bryan 03/14



*** USNA-NET post by: DEAROLF Bryan Richard 03-14 DEAROLF Peter and Wanda
<pdearol1@tampabay.rr.com>






*** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA05758
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:12:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nancy765@aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:12:02 EDT
Subject: usna-net: 02 web page?
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I have seen a web page for the class of 01 and 03, but not 02.  
Is there a web page out there for the Class of 02?

Nancy Rogers
Steve 02/26
Hamilton, OH

*** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS Stephen J. 02-26 ROGERS Randy and Nancy <Nancy765@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA05903
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:14:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: GREGSTASEY@aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:13:52 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Mid Tip for '01, '02, '03
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi, Y'all,
    Here's a tip for your mid in the summers to come.  My mid took a 
three-week course this summer in Naval Law (it's a required course). It's a 
3-credit hour course, he had class every day for three weeks, but he got it 
knocked out of the way now, thereby lightening his academic load next Spring.

Just an option to consider !  The downside was he didn't make it home this 
summer, but we are SO looking forward to Firstie's Parent's weekend next 
month !

Good luck to all - I pray for ALL the Mids !
Sincerely,
    Rita Schindeler-Trachta
    Austin, TX
    Proud mom of MIDN Jeremy Shamblee, '00

*** USNA-NET post by: SHAMBLEE Jeremy 00-8 TRACHTA Greg and Rita <gregstasey@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA07832
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:22:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <5b4b6911.24eef472@aol.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: 02 web page?
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:22:47 -0400
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For an unofficial Class of 2002 Website:

www.angelfire.com/md/USNA2002/

Sandi


*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) <jsandi@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA07864
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:22:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: Stamperhog@aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:22:42 EDT
Subject: Re:  usna-net: 02 web page?
To: Nancy765@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org


In a message dated 8/20/99 1:20:32 PM, Nancy765@aol.com wrote:

<<I have seen a web page for the class of 01 and 03, but not 02.  
Is there a web page out there for the Class of 02?
>>

Ben sent me this last year. Don't know if it will be active THIS year or not, 
but here it is.

<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/md/USNA2002/">USNA 2002 website</A> or 
http://www.angelfire.com/md/USNA2002/

Lynn

*** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn <Stamperhog@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA08442
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:47:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Lynn Johnson" <ljohnson@bbnm.com>
To: <Nancy765@aol.com>, <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: RE: usna-net: 02 web page?
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:45:31 -0600
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Just happened to find it last night, it is:
www.angelfire.com/md/usna2002

Good Luck!

Lynn
Kurt '02/6th Co

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy765@aol.com [mailto:Nancy765@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 12:12 PM
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: 02 web page?


I have seen a web page for the class of 01 and 03, but not 02.
Is there a web page out there for the Class of 02?

Nancy Rogers
Steve 02/26
Hamilton, OH

*** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS Stephen J. 02-26 ROGERS Randy and Nancy
<Nancy765@aol.com>





*** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSON Kurtis W 02-6 JOHNSON Ken and Lynn <ljohnson@bbnm.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA13337
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:11:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: Socalday@aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:11:38 EDT
Subject: usna-net: web pages
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Nancy, I've come across the web pages for '02 and '01 but have never seen a 
page for '00. I think there was a link from either the '01 page or the So. 
Calif. Parents Club Page for "02, also ck the usna-net home page.
Celeste Day-CA
Lance-00
Trevor-02

*** USNA-NET post by: DAY Trevor 02 Lance 00 DAY Jim and Celeste <Socalday@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA13379
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:12:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nancy765@aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:12:22 EDT
Subject: usna-net: thanks USNA 2002 web page
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

To all who responded to my question about the web page for the Class of 2002 
- Thank you!  It is great.  I've added it to my favorites.

Nancy Rogers

*** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS Stephen J. 02-26 ROGERS Randy and Nancy <Nancy765@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA13511
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:18:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: "gandy" <hwgandy@localaccess.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: About  IM
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:23:34 -0500
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Hey to all of my "personal support group"
    About the AOL buddylist:  you have to have his screen name first to add
it to your buddy list  and you can get that when he gets online and opens
his account....He will prob let you know.   Meanwhile send him an email
telling him your screen name!!!....
     I was just getting sooooo jealous of the emails that were coming from
the plebes to their parents and I was actually packing a care package of
baked goodies to take to the mail when up on my computer popped a "HEY
MOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!" After a whole year the thrill  is still there to hear from
your mid even if it was just 3 weeks since he was home!!!!! He said he was
busy unpacking big time so all is as it should be!!!!
    Hey Plebe parents, did anyone tell you that you and your mid have made
it a third of the way?  Plebe summer is the first third, plebe year a the
second third and the last three years the final third!!!!!  How time will
seem to  fly so I have been told!!!

Jackie "let me tell you about my mid"  Gandy
'02-30 co. "Dirty Thirty"  D & B contra bass
Guntersville, Alabama
Go NAVY! Beat Army!



*** USNA-NET post by: GANDY Jonathan Wayne 02-30 GANDY Wayne and Jackie <hwgandy@localaccess.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA00230
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:49:07 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:48:45 -0400
From: John E Ackerman <JAckerman4@compuserve.com>
Subject: usna-net: Thanksgiving/Academic Reserved Period
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We are new members to this web site so I apologize if I am redundant in my
questions.
First I would like to say how wonderful its been to hear the conforting
support from others in the same "boat". 
Does any one know what the schedule is for Thanksgiving. Our son has
requested that we reserve airline tickets. I'm trying to figure out what is
a safe time for a reservation on Wed 11/24.

Also John's grandparents are planning a visit to Annapolis and are trying
to plan the best time. I noticed in the schedule a reference to Academic
Reserved Period from 9/27 - 10/1 and wondered if anyone knows what that
means.


GO NAVY 
John & Joanne Ackerman
John 03 company 15

*** USNA-NET post by: ACKERMAN John E 03-15 ACKERMAN John and Joanne <JAckerman4@compuserve.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA16077
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:32:56 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:38:26 -0700
From: Susan Lemerande <lemonade@ivic.net>
To: *Betsy Boo* <betsboo2@hotmail.com>, Aunt Lil <diamondlil@hotmail.com>,
        Big Al and Jan <Schmaxi12@aol.com>, Bill Bush <bbush@pe.net>,
        Bill Rahn <USMC1058@aol.com>, Cassandra Wallace <wallace@ivic.net>,
        Cheryl and Michael Tausig <mrt@pe.net>,
        Dick & Patti Knollmiller <mudhop@ivic.net>,
        Don & Doris Silva <svnhills@aol.com>,
        Irene and Al Ekkens <aweile@ivic.net>,
        Jack Hansen <nmainstr@earthlink.net>, Jan Fifield <stella2@koan.com>,
        Jan Hodgson <jhodgson@telis.org>, Janet Glass <rfglass@earthlink.net>,
        Larry Szymanski <lmscpi@stratos.net>,
        Leo Reed <leoreed@hemet.klever.net>,
        Marilyn Davisson <spaetzle@koan.com>,
        Mary and Claude Thomas <cwthomas1@earthlink.net>,
        Meg Lemerande <chipperfan1@hotmail.com>,
        Naval Academy Parents <usna-net@navy-usna.org>,
        Patti Veary <toppersgal@earthlink.net>,
        "Peter, Judy and Matt Larson" <pjm.larson@cwixmail.com>,
        Regina Howard <RHOWARD@msjc.cc.ca.us>,
        Susan Guarino <SGUARINO@msjc.cc.ca.us>, Teddy <m013690@nadn.navy.mil>,
        Zerline <ntyz@earthlink.net>
Subject: usna-net: Bye now!

Dear Friends;

The purpose of this mass mailing is to say "Bye for now" as I am leaving
soon with Jordy to deliver her to that tiny liberal arts college in the
Northwest where she is sure to languish away the next four years
learning how to ski, white-water raft, backpack, kayak, play tennis and
squash and do yoga.  Oh, and bio-chemistry!

Actually, the REAL purpose of this is to ask you to hold down on the
fwd/fwd/fwd jokes and lengthy stories till later.  As it is, I often
receive 23 messages at the end of the day and some (especially with
graphics and photos) really bog everything down, so if I'm gone for days
it'll be really bad.  And if you do send me something and don't get a
response, now you know why.

Also, if you have any real need to speak with me I will be at my
sister's in Beaverton, Oregon; the number is 503/591-8773 or
503/591-5771.  If you live nearby feel free to call to check on those
left behind (929-7353) or invite them over for dinner!  That was a
joke.  If you are a cop, please feel free to drive by a few extra times
(Billy!).

Wish me luck; as much as we love to see our children be successful and
self-sufficient, it's going to be really hard to leave her there and get
back on an airplane.

Love to all,

Susan



--
            A friend is one to whom you may pour out all that
                is in your heart, chaff and grain together,
             knowing that the gentlest of hands will sift it,
                     keep only what is worth keeping,
           and with the touch of kindness, brush the rest away.

                                    -----

                                              Susan Lemerande
                                              lemonade@ivic.net



*** USNA-NET post by: LEMERANDE Theodore J. 01-17 LEMERANDE Susan <lemonade@ivic.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA07816
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:31:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: GWEBB672@aol.com
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:31:14 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Looking for Idahoans
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello all,

First off I have not received an e-mail from Jeff as of this am (Saturday) 
and he better have a good reason for keeping his dad up all night just to 
check e-mails. (just kidding, he doesn't have to have a reason I'm sure his 
detailers have one for him ha! ha!)

What I am curious about is how many midshipman at the Yard are from Idaho? I 
have been in contact with the Tumanjan's, Gadwa's, and Slabaugh's (Padgett). 
Are there any more Idahoans on this list? Does anyone know of a roster I can 
access to get the names of those uninformed Idahoans who are not on this list?

I would appreciate your help and response back to my personal e-mail 
GWEBB672@aol.com. Thank you again for all the help and support this network 
provides.

George Webb
Jeff 03/Charlie 05

PS - If anyone knows the whereabouts of my son have him e-mail home. Also, if 
there are any more Charlie 05 parents out there it would be nice to hear from 
you too.

*** USNA-NET post by: WEBB Jeffery M 03-5 WEBB George and Laura <GWEBB672@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA08282
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:08:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sdalziel@aol.com
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:07:52 EDT
Subject: usna-net: lost luggage....
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Good Morning...

Some of you "ole timers" on the net may remember me reporting that my Mid had 
a piece of his luggage "stolen" on Commissioning Day last 
spring.....well.........three months have passed and no sign of the 
luggage......which contained ALL his favorite civie clothes..50+ 
CDs....checkbook, cell phone charger.......and on and on......

Well......our faith in the USNA & it's Mids has been restored...and I wanted 
to be sure to pass along this info to all of you who worried about our loss 
at that time......THE LOST LUGGAGE WAS RETURNED TO SCOTT YESTERDAY........one 
of his wonderful company mates was one of the last to leave the yard on that 
day in May...and noticed an "abandoned" piece of USNA luggage.....in checking 
the tag...he recognized Scott's name...although he didn't have time to leave 
it with lost and found, etc......he recognized Scott as being in his 
company...so brough the bag home with him...and returned it to one very happy 
2nd class Midshipman yesterday........we'll never know how it got away from 
Scott's other pieces of luggage, etc....assuming someone mistakenly picked it 
up & in realizing it...left it behind.......

Reminds me of the story told on this net recently ...about a dad asking an 
unknown Mid to bring $50 in cash to his Mid.....and it arrived safely!!!!  
Thank goodness this wonderful young man took care of Scott's bag and returned 
it...without a thing out of place or missing........we can all be very proud 
of these wonderful young men and women......we've all done some wondering 
parenting...they are young people with high ideals... integrity....honesty..

I don't know this young man's name...but I plan to find out....perhaps his 
parents are on this net too.....if so.......

THANK YOU.....THANK YOU.......

Sue Dalziel
Scott 01/26
Nashville

*** USNA-NET post by: DALZIEL Scott 01 DALZIEL Ken and Sue <Sdalziel@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA26936
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:32:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: DCA01@aol.com
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:31:34 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Reform and some tidbits about plebes
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Dindy - 

Erik just left on Thursday morning and you summed up exactly how I feel.  He 
has his own car so we don't even get to drive him to and from the Yard.  I 
always treasured those drives because he was "captive" and the conversations 
would come and go - often covering incidents/friends/Yard happenings.  I miss 
those chats.  This year I keep thinking this is the last.....We may have him 
after commissioning, but no guarantees.  What it boils down to is I'm not 
ready to give up the mothering role - it's hard.  We have a 14 year old who 
just began high school and also wants to attend the Academy.  I know that his 
4 years of high school will also just fly by.

It's all a real mixed bag of feelings - proud, excited about what the future 
holds but have a little corner that is a bit sad.

I'm really anticipating Firstie's Parents' Weekend.  We've never had a meal 
in King Hall and am really looking forward to that.  I'm also wondering what 
micro-second of his classes I will understand - or maybe I should ask, "Will 
I understand a micro-second???"

Thanks for posting your note.

Nancy Aubel
Erik 00/12
Dayton, Ohio

*** USNA-NET post by: AUBEL Erik 00-12 AUBEL Nancy and Dave <DCA01@aol.com >




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA27148
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:43:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: "The Kerchevals" <kercheval_hou@msn.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Follow up on IM Advice
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:43:53 -0500
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The Paynes had the right idea on IM. Last year we just made it a habit to be
hanging out on-line signed on to IM  30 minutes before lights out. If Jason
had time to talk or a request of things to include in the next care package
he could let us know. One other word of advice - make sure you save your IM
messages. We have them all in a separate folder (we names our Jason)with a
date coded file name (990512-1753.htm = May 12,1999 at 5:53p.m.) That way we
could go back and re-read them or print them out if we wanted to. It is nice
to look back at the progress made in one short year - you will all be
amazed.

Rick & Paula Kercheval - Houston, TX
Jason c/o 02-14th
Christy c/o 03-18th



*** USNA-NET post by: KERCHEVAL Jason T 02-18 Christie L 03-14 KERCHEVAL Rick and Paula<kercheval_hou@msn.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA27480
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:00:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: LCSPop@aol.com
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:00:04 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Fwd: Missing Kids
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org


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Sorry Mike, I know that you don't like us to do this, but I thought it might 
be appropriate for both sites!

Bob

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From: LCSPop@aol.com
Full-name: LCSPop
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:57:47 EDT
Subject: Missing Kids
To: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org

I was talking to my boss one day that I was feeling kind of low.  I had just 
returned from I-Day and there was this nagging feeling that something was 
definately missing in my life.  He asked me what the problem was and I 
explained what I was feeling.  He told me that he knew how that felt as all 
his kids were grown and gone.

PPW is over, and the AC year is about to start.  From some of the posts, I 
get the feeling that some of us are having those same feelings.  If I may be 
so bold, let me share what my boss shared with me (along with my own 
feelings).

He explained to me that we, as parents, only have our kids for a fraction of 
the time that they are on earth.  The best that we could hope for was that we 
were able to point our kids in the right direction and turn them loose to 
make their own way.  The measure of our success would be what our kids made 
out of their lives without our active guidance and/or presence.  He told me 
that the time comes when it's time for us to let go and watch our kids grow 
from a distance.  Not so far away that you can't be there to help, but far 
enough away so as to give them an opportunity to work things out themselves.

While it's hard to do because of all the love and pain it took to get them to 
this point, it is my boy's time to repeat what I did not too many years ago, 
and go off on his own.  I thank God that he chose the Naval Academy, for I 
truly believe that he could not have made a better choice.  I thank all those 
people involved in the process who felt that he was worthy of this honor, and 
helped to make his (and my) dreams possible.

Now that the rigors of plebe summer are over, I pray that my son, and all of 
our sons and daughters, have the strength to take the rigors of the AC year.  
They are all truly exceptional young men and young women, as are all those 
that have gone before them.

Miss your kids but rest easily in the knowledge that they are in good hands 
and are truly doing something special and worthwhile.

Bob (taking some time for reflection) Yoon  (and Gina)
David C. 03/PAPA/30

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*** USNA-NET post by: YOON David C. 03 YOON Robert and Gina <lcspop@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA08931
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:13:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: "The Hoopers" <hooper@cpros.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: phone rates
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:55:57 -0700
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    We have an 800 number with not great rates, so we just call our son
right back at the 7 cents per minute long distance rate we have.  We signed
up for one of those 10-10 programs for their excellent international rates
for our two exchange students from Russia and China.  The interstate rate
all day, every day is 7 cents and the intrastate (within state) is 9 cents
per minute.  Our son can call us whenever and where ever he wants and we
just call him right back.
    Regarding the annual croquet tournament with St.Johns each year, it's
28th company that has the team.  Each year it draws a larger group of
spectators from the community, many of them dressed in period costume.
Jared was quite impressed and had a great time.  Sports Illustrated was even
there taking pictures this spring, although I'm not sure the tournament ever
made it into an article.

GO NAVY, BEAT ARMY,

Carol Hooper,  Jared 02,28
Oregon





*** USNA-NET post by: HOOPER Jared 02 HOOPER Clyde & Carol <hooper@cpros.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA09716
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:10:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: www.navy-usna.org Site Changes...
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:09:12 -0400
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To all...

I've taken the time to update the site and move a few things around.
Everything is still there but it's better organized now and should be more
intuitive to find what you're looking for.

I regrouped all of the photos into a "Photo Gallery" including moving the
Herndon Photos there.

"Plebe Humor" (updated today) and "Meet the Authors" has been moved to
"Family Interests"

And Sandi added a "Links of Interest" page that has a pot load of other
sites listed for your convenience.

By way of notification, we will be discontinuing support for non-frame
enabled browsers sometime soon.  If you go to the site (www.navy-usna.org)
and see the BOLD warning that you are using a non-frame enabled Browser, let
me know and I'll send you info on where and how to get a free upgrade of
your software to allow you to see framed pages.  Please include the name and
version of your current Internet Browser in that request.  (You can find
that info in your browser's "Help" | "About" Menu.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org






*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike <mzets@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA11245
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:50:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: Navymom02@aol.com
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 01:50:38 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Another version of Reform
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

After reading the wonderful posting by Joyce and Bob Burns, I felt compelled 
to add a few notes, especially for those of you who will relate to this.  My 
Mid would not use one single moment of vacation to polish a shoe, scrub a 
combat boot, press a crease, organize, compose, coordinate, buff, scour, or 
shine ANYTHING!  (with the possible exception of a few fishing lures, his 
canoe, and a stereo).   And, neither did I !!  We arrived on the yard with 
only one hour to spare, and plenty of mates to help getting unloaded and 
moved in.    However, upon arriving a visible change was observed!   He stood 
taller, moved sharper, and will definitely shine like a brand new penny by 
inspection!   The camaraderie was palpable, you felt it all around you.  
These are friends for life!  

A few unrelated notes:

Standing at a door to Bancroft, watching as several Mids assisted my son with 
his move, I observed a Plebe coming toward the door, to exit Bancroft.  He 
really did look like 'a deer caught in a headlight', with 'eyes as big as 
saucers', as he approached these 4 rather large Youngsters.  The biggest of 
the Youngsters looked the Plebe in the eye and said "come on out man, it's 
okay, we won't bite."  Smiles were exchanged all around, and the Plebe 
actually took a deep breath and walked away a bit more relaxed and a lot more 
happy!  It was a treat to be watching!

One more:   As we sat in T-Court, waiting for a formation that must have 
occurred elsewhere at 1800 hours on Friday, we observed a 2nd class Mid 
crossing T-Court, completely loaded down with baggage.  He was carrying 
things, dragging things, and had something hooked to every appendage.  As he 
crossed T-Court he noticed a little piece of crumbled up paper, blowing in 
the breeze across his path.  He stopped and put down some of his load, picked 
up the garbage, reclaimed his things and deposited the paper in a trash can 
as he continued toward his new room.  These young people are learning to 
respect everyone and everything, including their environment.  Another of my 
many privileged moments, in my opinion.  

Hope you all have a great year!  Be sure to stop by the NJ tailgate party 
outside gate C when we meet Georgia Tech on September 4th.  Tell your Mids to 
come by if they are hungry, NJ prides itself in feeding every Mid who gets 
anywhere near us.  

Go Navy - Beat Georgia Tech!!!
Mary Cannici, NJ
Rich,02,22nd

*** USNA-NET post by: CANNICI Richard J. 02-22 CANNICI Richard and Mary <Navymom02@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA00346
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:06:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: GWEBB672@aol.com
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:06:05 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Finally found him!  
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Dear parents and friends:

Finally the day has come, we received three e-mails and just got off the IM! 
I was getting so envious of all of you I didn't want to read anymore e-mails. 
I hope the rest of you have finally made contact. What a relief!

Thanks for all the emails from the 03, company 5 parents. I have not received 
many emails from Idaho parents, maybe there just isn't any more on the list. 
I will follow up with some of the other recommendations to get a register. 
You folks are such a big help. 

I better go back to reading the mail I didn't want to open before. Just 
kidding, actually I just got home from work and have some catching up to do.

George Webb
Jeff 03/ Charlie 05

*** USNA-NET post by: WEBB Jeffery M 03-5 WEBB George and Laura <GWEBB672@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA09818
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:46:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: Navymom02@aol.com
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:46:23 EDT
Subject: usna-net: One more story
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi all,  Just want to share one more funny story, and wonder if any of you 
had a similar experience.  Two days before reform, packing up began.  My Mid 
tried on a pair of "school pants", the black light weight wool ones.  He 
asked me if we had time to get to a tailor to let out all his school pants, 
and made some noises about the academy issuing all his pants when he was down 
15# during Plebe summer. I looked at the tag on his pants and the size seemed 
plenty large enough.   Then he stopped eating!  I realized he was concerned 
that all of his clothes wouldn't fit, but he looked the same to me.  He 
decided he would just go back and buy new pants.  The morning of our 
departure he got up and began to squeeze into his summer whites and they fit 
just fine.  The next scene is all of us rolling on the floor laughing!  We 
all realized at the same time that I had washed his "dry clean only" black 
pants, and they would now fit someone about 4 sizes smaller!  Thankfully, 
that was the only uniform piece I touched all summer!  The fun never ends!!!

Go Navy,
Mary Cannici, NJ
Rich,02,22nd

*** USNA-NET post by: CANNICI Richard J. 02-22 CANNICI Richard and Mary <Navymom02@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA10560
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:38:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: TECH NOTE - Internet Browsers
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:38:16 -0400
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To all...

Since some of you are less comfortable with computers than others, I will be
sending these TECH NOTES to help.  DO NOT respond to these TECH NOTES on the
Listservers.  Address ALL responses or questions to me personally at
mzets@mail.com.  Computer whizzes delete this message  - Newbies read on...

=============================================
TECH NOTE

Internet Browsers - What they are...

An Internet Browser is the program you use to visit World Wide Web Sites on
the Internet.  You know, the ones that have addresses (URLs) like
www.yahoo.com and www.navy-usna.org.

Browsers come in all shapes and sizes.  Some are better than others, some
easier to use and some that are a downright pain in the posterior.  My
personal choice in browsers is Microsoft's Internet Explorer (MSIE).  This
program usually ships with all Windows 95/98 Operating Systems but may or
may not be installed on your machine depending on whether or not you or the
manufacturer of your computer thought it was necessary at the time the
machine was originally set up.

MSIE Version 5.0 is a really versatile and full featured Browser.  It does
more than it's competitors.  The differences between Browsers stems from the
competition between the program suppliers.  Netscape and Microsoft have been
at loggerheads in the courts and are not cooperating with common features
and support of HTML 4.0 Standards.  If this is getting too techie, just know
that different browsers have different ways of viewing the same Web site
page.

The most important part of all of this is that if you're not using the
latest version of the Browser, you're not able to view the newer web pages
in the manner they were designed such as Frames and Tables.  Older browsers
also don't support Forms, JAVA Script, Sounds and certain graphic formats
like animations and ActiveX Controls.  Netscape (even the latest version) is
incapable of viewing ".bmp" files which we use for the digits in our hit
counter on our web site.

Most web authors are now designing pages in a Framed Format in which only a
part of the screen changes when you select a link.  The rest of the page
remains visible so that the menu items are always available with the need to
use a back button.  Even older versions of MSIE do not support frames and
can cause the visitor to a site to see less than is viewable by the more
recent version of the Browser or perhaps nothing at all.

For all these reasons, you should upgrade your software if you're using an
older version.  To find our which version you are using now, click on the
"Help" menu item in the program and then click on "About."  This is a
feature of each Windows program and will tell you the name and version of
that program.

The latest version are as follows...
 MSIE - 5.00
 Netscape Communicator - 4.51
 AOL - 4.0

See our FAQs page for the addresses (URLs) where the upgrades may be
obtained for free.  You'll find it under "Browser Software." The download
times for these programs is VERY long, taking at least two hours on a fast
modem so be prepared to do this late at night and leave the machine alone to
do it's thing until morning.  The good news is that once the upgrade has
been downloaded, it will automatically install itself and you only need to
click an occasional "OK."  No techie knowledge required at all.



Internet Browsers - How to use them...

There are whole books written on the subject but here are a few of the
basics.

URL - "Universal Resource Locator" or the Internet Address of the Page you
want to visit.  It usually starts with www. for world wide web and in most
instances is case sensitive, upper and lower case MATTER when you type the
address into the Address Box.  All of the slashes, dashes, underlines and
tildes (~) are required to the browser to find the proper location and send
you the requested page.

BACK & FORWARD Buttons - Do just that.  They move you backwards one page at
a time along the way you came or forward if you've gone back a few pages.
This can really be a help if you get somewhere you don't want to be and
can't remember where you started.

REFRESH Button - To speed up the loading of a page, Browsers store the
entire page and its contents in Temporary Files so that the next time you go
to a page, you don't have to wait anywhere near as long as the first time.
Problem is that if the page has changed since you were last there, you MAY
not get the latest version of the page but the one stored in your computer's
Temp Files.  There are at least two ways to solve this problem.  One is to
hit the REFRESH button after the page has loaded (if it's a page that you've
gone to before).  This will force the Browser to reload an entire new page
and get the latest content in the process.  The other way is to set the
Browser's Options to "Automatically" check for Newer Versions of Stored
(Temp) Files.  The exact method of doing this is different for each Browser
but they all have this provision.

COPYING PHOTOS & GRAPHICS - You can copy almost any Photo or graphic image
that is visible on a website by putting the mouse pointer on the photo and
"Right" Clicking the mouse.  Then select the "Save As" option in the pop up
menu next to the mouse pointer and tell the browser what to name it and
where to save the file.  You can then print out the photo on your printer
using a variety of programs and have them on display for all to envy.

The same goes for music files such as ".mid" and ".wav" files by clicking on
the music player and saving the file.  It's fun to have your Windows start
to the sounds of the Glee Club or Anchors Aweigh each morning.

CUSTOM HOME PAGE SETTING - You can set the page that your Browser uses for
its "Home" page, that is, the page that comes up when you first start your
Browser Program.  Instead of www.msn.com or such, you can set your Browser
to go to www.navy-usna.org every time you start the Browser.  Detailed info
on how to do this is on our FAQs page on the website.

FAVORITES - Any time you find a page that you know that you will want to
come back to, you can save its URL (address) so that you can come back to it
again without typing in the address all over again.  While the page is
visible on your browser, Click on the Favorites Icon at the top of the
Browser.  Then save the address (Add to Favorites).  It will be there the
next time you need it and can be accessed by clicking on the Favorites Icon
again, scrolling down to the address and clicking on it.  Couldn't be
simpler.

BROWSER/SCREEN RESOLUTIONS - Our website is set up to be viewed best at a
screen resolution of 800 x 600 pixels (Right click your mouse anywhere on
the Desktop, select "Properties" and then "Settings" and select "800x600
pixels" by sliding the selector right or left.  Then Click "Apply" and click
"OK" then "YES" when asked if you want to keep the settings.  Don't mind the
screen flicker.  It's normal.

We also recommend that in the Browser under "Options" or "Settings", you
select the "type size" or "font Size" and set it to "Smaller" in order to
see all of the text as we intended it to be viewed.

BROWSER INSTANCES - Many times when you are browsing on a page, you will
click on a link to go to another site and instead of your current screen
changing, another "Instance" of your Browser will be initiated.  You
probably don't notice this happening and the reasons are too techie to
discuss but it's done by the Web Author that wrote the code for that link
you clicked.  Anyway, there you are going along and hit the back button and
there isn't any page to go back to.  You know that you had visited a lot of
other pages before this but your back button has run out of places to go
back to.  What's going on?

Look at the bottom of your screen in the System Tray.  If you see more than
one Browsers represented there by a bar with the Browser's Icon and Name,
you have several "Instances" of the browser open and the one that you are
currently using is at the earliest page it knows about.  Simply close the
Browser (Click on the "X" in the uppermost right corner of the Browser) and
it will vanish (close) to reveal another (maybe many) already open with
plenty of "Backs" to go back to.



AOL Users and other Browsers...

If you are an AOL member, YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE AOL AS YOUR INTERNET
BROWSER!!!  You don't have to put up with their constant advertisements and
the small browser window that AOL provides.  Here's how to get around AOL...

First install another Browser like MSIE and in it's "Options" set the
Browser to NOT dial its own connection but use an existing connection to the
Host server.  Then, log onto AOL and let the software dial up in the usual
manner.  Once you're fully connected to the Internet, minimize the AOL
program by clicking on the "minus" sign in the far upper right.  This will
shrink the program to a small bar in the Windows System Tray at the bottom
of the screen and leave you with your desktop showing.  Then start your
"Other" Browser program and use it to browse to your heart's content.  In
this way you're only using AOL for email and providing the dial-up
connection to the Internet while still having the benefit of the latest
version of a real browser that isn't tied to AOL and all of its advertising.

=============================================

Please note that I know "I" am violating the rule that "ALL messages must
relate to Navy Parenting" but I feel there is good reason.  As Moderator,
I'm allowed to be the exception that proves the rule.  If you do not need a
little computer advice from time to time, simply hit the delete key when you
see the Subject: TECH NOTE.

If you have a specific question that you need help with, write to me at
mzets@mail.com.  I will answer as many as possible directly and those that
seem to be of general interest, I will post in a TECH NOTE.

Mike Zets
List Moderator



*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike <mzets@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA12721
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 05:41:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: MaryMLakes@aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:40:46 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Hello-I'm new
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello Navy Family!  I joined the Parents Network last week after PPW.  Thanks 
to all who told us about this and especially the person (whoever you are!) 
that printed out the cards.  My name is Mary Christensen, mother of Daniel 
03/19.  I live in New Jersey and my husband & I are part of the New Jersey 
Parent's Club.  Little did we realize at the time that the welcome picnic our 
Parent's Club gave for all of us new families in June was the start of a 
joyful new affiliation with this 'Navy Family'.  My husband & I have 
thoroughly enjoyed reading your stories this past week and feeling connected 
to all of you in a special way.  We too, have been filled with pride in our 
son and were overwhelmed with so many different emotions at Parent's Weekend. 
 We relate to those of you that have had a difficult time explaining this 
experience to other parents.  It's hard for others to understand this Academy 
experience unless they've walked in our shoes!  Our sons & daughters have 
accomplished so much already in such a short time-I'm proud of all of them 
now!  On Friday night at Parent's Weekend our son was pacing the hotel room.  
I said to him, "It must feel strange with all of this unstructured time on 
your hands".  He laughed and said, "I don't know what to do with myself-I 
feel like I should be studying rates or something!"  He talked about them 
being trained to 'turn it on & off'.  This military life is a whole new world 
they're in now (and how about all of those garters to keep their dress white 
shirt tucked in-I never knew what kept them looking so neat!).  He did 
finally relax & enjoy the time off.  Thanks to all the advice about their 
E-mail accounts.  We've trying to keep them brief and will cut back on how 
often we write now that the academic year is about to start.  Our son is a 
Cross Country runner.  I've tried looking for their Fall schedule on the 
internet but couldn't find it-anybody know where to get it?  Thanks!

Have a GREAT Navy day!
Mary Christensen

*** USNA-NET post by: CHRISTENSEN Daniel L 03-19 CHRISTENSEN Mary <MaryMLakes@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA13540
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:40:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: KaroLuvL@aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:40:26 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Skits by the Plebes
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

To the Navy Family,

We received in IM last night at 10:20.  

Two lines - "GOTTA GO, HAVING SO MUCH FUN - WE ARE WORKING ON SKIT.  MAKING 
FUN OF THE DETAILERS."

I think I read that yesterday was the last day they had their summer 
detailers.  It must have "payback" time.

Thanks for sharing all your wonderful info.

Carolyn Lavelle
Stuart FL
Joe 03/D Company

*** USNA-NET post by: LAVELLE Joseph D 03 LAVELLE Carolyn and Dennis <KaroLuvL@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA18039
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:46:00 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:40:59 -0400
From: Jack Riismandel <jriismandel@home.com>
Organization: @Home Network
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To: MaryMLakes@aol.com
CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Hello-I'm new
References: <aadb4553.24f27f2e@aol.com>

Hello All:

There is a site www.navysoprts.com where many of the sports schedules
are kept.  The schedule may be on this site. Hopefully this will be
helpful.

Kathy Riismandel (Proud parent of Kristen '00 and Michael '03.

MaryMLakes@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hello Navy Family!  I joined the Parents Network last week after PPW.  Thanks
> to all who told us about this and especially the person (whoever you are!)
> that printed out the cards.  My name is Mary Christensen, mother of Daniel
> 03/19.  I live in New Jersey and my husband & I are part of the New Jersey
> Parent's Club.  Little did we realize at the time that the welcome picnic our
> Parent's Club gave for all of us new families in June was the start of a
> joyful new affiliation with this 'Navy Family'.  My husband & I have
> thoroughly enjoyed reading your stories this past week and feeling connected
> to all of you in a special way.  We too, have been filled with pride in our
> son and were overwhelmed with so many different emotions at Parent's Weekend.
>  We relate to those of you that have had a difficult time explaining this
> experience to other parents.  It's hard for others to understand this Academy
> experience unless they've walked in our shoes!  Our sons & daughters have
> accomplished so much already in such a short time-I'm proud of all of them
> now!  On Friday night at Parent's Weekend our son was pacing the hotel room.
> I said to him, "It must feel strange with all of this unstructured time on
> your hands".  He laughed and said, "I don't know what to do with myself-I
> feel like I should be studying rates or something!"  He talked about them
> being trained to 'turn it on & off'.  This military life is a whole new world
> they're in now (and how about all of those garters to keep their dress white
> shirt tucked in-I never knew what kept them looking so neat!).  He did
> finally relax & enjoy the time off.  Thanks to all the advice about their
> E-mail accounts.  We've trying to keep them brief and will cut back on how
> often we write now that the academic year is about to start.  Our son is a
> Cross Country runner.  I've tried looking for their Fall schedule on the
> internet but couldn't find it-anybody know where to get it?  Thanks!
> 
> Have a GREAT Navy day!
> Mary Christensen
> 
> *** USNA-NET post by: CHRISTENSEN Daniel L 03-19 CHRISTENSEN Mary <MaryMLakes@aol.com>
> 
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
> 
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org

*** USNA-NET post by: RIISMANDEL Kristen E 00-19 Michael B 03-25 RIISMANDEL Kathy and Jack <jriismandel@home.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA19562
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:59:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Protestant Choir Trip...Bounce
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:59:25 -0400
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To all...

Karen Decker is having a slight problem with her email address.  I have
forwarded her post to you.

PLEASE RESPOND DIRECTLY TO HER AT:    z141820decker@uswest.net
NOT TO ME OR MIKE!!

=======================Original Message=============

Does anyone know the itinerary for the Protestant Choir Trip scheduled for
Labor Day Weekend?
Thanks.

Karen & Scott Decker
Caitlin Decker,'03/22

========================End Message================


*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) <jsandi@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA27473
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:24:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:24:18 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Sunday evening at the Academy
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I was down there again yesterday.....delivering the last of Peter's 
belongings and uniforms for the AC year.  He had little time for me as he was 
VERY busy cleaning his room and setting it up....I did manage to have a quick 
bite at Dalghren with him...around 9pm!  They had a movie last night "Into 
Thin Air" this movie was a 'required' movie for the whole Brigade as they 
will be discussing it and other things in a new program of development....see 
your Trident for more details...Anyway, I had to 'hang' at the Academy for 
quite a while waiting to hear about whether I would have to go to BWI to pick 
up the son of a friend, so I just sort of sat around outside.. 
What an interesting and beautiful place at night...and funny in some respects 
too.....for instance...
As noted, there is an Alpha Inspection today...so as I sat and gazed at the 
lighted windows of Bancroft,I could see many a Mid scrubbing the floors, 
cleaning the windows, and the blinds and the bed and the, and the....you know 
the drill...they were going over their rooms with a fine tooth comb..I also 
thought that it was interesting to note that there was very little music 
playing in those rooms....they were concentrating!!!!!....and then there were 
the cell phoners!
Along the wall that edges Bancroft on the upper part near Dalghren, I watched 
the silouettes of half a dozen phoners... obviously deep in 
conversation......some sprawled on the wall, some pacing up and down....all 
seperated by about 20 feet .... each in the own 'personal' space....and those 
conversations went on for quite a while.....the night was cool and 
soft....the colors of the Academy muted and friendly....there was such a 
feeling of peace (if you could call it that) It was a feeling that Robert 
Brownings poem best sums up.....
"The lark's on the wing, 
The snail's on the thorn, 
God's in his heaven, 
All's right with the world.."

I left reluctantly having basked in the pleasure of the sights and sounds of 
an incredible place!

Dindy Liebert
00/25

*** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter <LIEBERTCO@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA22186
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:30:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: NGlasgow2@aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:29:44 EDT
Subject: usna-net: cell phone
To: USNA-NET@navy-usna.org

i know everyone is tired of this subject, but since i deleted some important 
notes, i am now at your mercy!  please let me know if and when sprint will be 
going to the campus to sell phones and cellular service to the mids.  seems 
to me i read last month or so that they will be there with some super offers. 
 anyone know for sure?  who can i call?  seems my son found a good deal with 
at&t ($70/ 700 minutes) and their promotion ends september 7th.  he wants to 
buy the plan and i would discourage it if i can.  does sprint have anything 
better? a plan where they sell the phone really inexpensively would be ideal. 
 anyone?

norma glasgow, winter park, fl
tripp glasgow 02/7th
gymnastics

*** USNA-NET post by: GLASGOW Richard 02-7 GLASGOW Norma <NGlasgow2@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA25492
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:54:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: ASCCMLZ@aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:53:41 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Navy's first win over Army!
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello to everyone!

I think that we have heard about Navy's first victory over Army for this AC 
year!  Our son, Stephen ('01/2) is on the Triathlon team(club sport - not 
varsity) and their first meet was yesterday (Sunday 8/22) AT West Point.  
Stephen called last night to say that we beat Army 30 to 43 (low score wins). 
 Stephen (Steve) was 2nd for Navy, 3rd Cadet (1 Army cadet ahead of him) and 
16th over all - out of over 400 finishers.  Neesless to say he said he was 
tired but very pleased with his finish and with the team's finish.  

For those of you who are unfamiliar with Tri's - the Olympic distance (most 
common) is a .9 mile swim, followed by a 26 mile bike, followed by a 6.2 mile 
run.  The Tri team will also do 1/2 Iron Man's and some will do a full Iron 
Man.  They are a 1.2 mile swim - this is all open water - not in a pool - a 
54 mile bike (I think) and a 13.1 mile run for the 1/2 - the Iron Man is 
double.  These guys are very focused but obviously somewhat brain dead since 
they want to put their bodies through so much torture!!!  (Stephen agrees 
and, in fact, has admited that most of his friends agree that they all have 
some type of a chemical imbalance in their brains!!!!! :)

Hope all of you have enjoyed your Mids being home for at least a little while 
this summer.  Now they are back together - where they obviously belong.  
Stephen was glad to get back to his friends - not the classes and the 
military stuff - but he really is back "home" now.  It's hard to let go - and 
I singlehandedly keep Priority mail in business - but it is all worth it 
because I know that he is doing exactly what he wants to do and I thank God 
for that.

Have a great Navy year and I hope this was the first of many Navy beats Army 
notices!!

GO NAVY!

Steve and Mary Lou Zagorski (Stephen '02/2) Nashville, TN

*** USNA-NET post by: ZAGORSKI Stephen A. 01-2 ZAGORSKI Steve and Mary Lou <ASCCMLZ@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA27588
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:01:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:00:45 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: cell phone
To: NGlasgow2@aol.com, USNA-NET@navy-usna.org

Isn't there some "class" thing with the cell phones, too?  Like, what class 
"rates" the phones?  I thought it was only firsties.  Am I mistaken?

*** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy <amysoule@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA29018
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:12:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: HeyNita@aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:12:28 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: cell phone
To: Amysoule@aol.com, NGlasgow2@aol.com, USNA-NET@navy-usna.org

Youngsters, Second Class, and Firsties all rate cell phones.

Juanita Chauvin
Andrew '02

*** USNA-NET post by: CHAUVIN Andrew John 02-4 CHAUVIN Juanita <HeyNita@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA06091
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:21:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Norton Smiley" <Norton.Smiley@sagemaker.com>
To: "usna net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <8ae4e71e.24f356cd@aol.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: cell phone
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:20:22 -0400
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I believe there are some restrictions, albeit difficult to enforce. I know
my son wanted one in his plebe year but stated "plebes were not allowed to
have cell phones during their plebe year." I think, although I am not
positive, that my son got his cell phone during his 3rd class year.

As with any rules at the Academy, there are changes from year to year.

Norton Smiley
Devin, '00/22nd
Westport, CT

----- Original Message -----
From: <Amysoule@aol.com>
To: <NGlasgow2@aol.com>; <USNA-NET@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: usna-net: cell phone


> Isn't there some "class" thing with the cell phones, too?  Like, what
class
> "rates" the phones?  I thought it was only firsties.  Am I mistaken?
>
> *** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy <amysoule@aol.com>
>
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
>
>
>


*** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton <Norton.Smiley@sagemaker.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA09305
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:25:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Deb Hefner" <hefnet@netassoc.net>
To: "'USNA-NET'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: News from the Yard
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:29:06 -0400
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I found this article in the "The Capital":

http://www.hometownannapolis.com/TOP.html

Deb Hefner, Kris, '02

*** USNA-NET post by: HEFNER John&Deb 02 HEFNER Kristopher <hefnet@netassoc.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA24086
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:19:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sod2626@aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:18:34 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Happy to be aboard
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

We are grandparents of James Craig Ruhs.  We also had a very wonderful time 
at parents weekend.  He is a soccer player.  He is from the Dallas area and 
we are from the New Orleans area.  Will be reading all your mail.  Dick & 
Clara

*** USNA-NET post by: RUHS James C 03 MUCKLEY Richard and Clara <sod2626@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA28107
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:17:23 -0500 (CDT)
X-Sender: mbt2@mail.psu.edu
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:17:48 -0400
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: Mary Beth Tsikalas <mbt2@psu.edu>
Subject: usna-net: new member

We are new to this listserve.  Our son, Manny, class of 03, is in company 21. 

A big "thank you" to Andrea Darone, Middletown, DE for introducing the net
to us.

Mike and Mary Beth Tsikalas
Altoona, PA

*** USNA-NET post by: TSIKALAS Emanuel M 03-21 Mike and Mary Beth <mbt2@psu.edu>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA08864
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:50:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jillsey11@aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:50:04 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Navy versus the Ivies - a different viewpoint
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

     I read with interest the article comparing and contrasting the Naval 
Academy with the Ivy League schools.  While the author had some valid points, 
I think he may have missed the main point.  The Naval Academy is a service 
academy, and its directive is to produce honorable/ethical young men and 
women who are committed to service to their country.  Service may imply 
leadership, but I fail to see how being the head of a Fortune 500 company 
fulfills that goal.  Unfortunately, holding a major political office does not 
always imply that one is committed to service to one's country as well.  
Those two forms of employment seem to be about power rather than service, in 
many instances.  Therefore, the fact that the Naval Academy has not produced 
many politicians or heads of business recently does not tell me that that its 
graduates are not "successful."
     In addition, the Academies and the Ivy League schools are 
attracting/recruiting two different types of student.  There are very few 
exceptionally brilliant students who are also very capable athletes.  
Although community service and outside activities are touted as important 
factors for admission to the Ivy League schools, in my experience that is 
fine as long as it is coupled with superb SAT scores and an excellent GPA.  
The Naval Academy seems to be seeking and attracting a slightly different 
student.  These students may not be #1 in their class, or have 1600 SAT's 
(although some do), but they are very good students who are also involved in 
a multitude of other things such as sports and other leadership-requiring 
activities.  In other words, they have learned to successfully balance a 
variety of different activities, which may be quite time consuming.  I think 
this capability may be one of the most important predictors of success at a 
place like the Naval Academy.  And I think, considering the physical, 
emotional and intellectual stressors placed on a student at the Academy, the 
retention rate is excellent.
     The environment is structured, and perhaps students aren't given the 
opportunity to fail as brilliantly as they are at other institutions.  But 
are we doing all 18 year olds a favor when we allow them to succeed or fail 
in school and in life without parental or administrative knowledge and/or 
supervision?  I noticed the author likened school at the Academy to medical 
school, another academic organization dedicated to service.  As someone 
personally involved in medical student education, I think there may be too 
much of an attempt to remediate the failing student.  But these are young men 
and women who are four years older, who have been away from parental control 
and supervision for several years.  And interestingly, some of the best 
students with whom I have worked, who have been standouts in ability, work 
ethic and personal ethics, have been students who have graduated from our 
service academies.  Even more interesting is the fact that I have had several 
students who have been failures in some or all of the above, who have been 
graduates of Ivy League schools.
     In conclusion, I think we are comparing apples and oranges when looking 
at the goals and graduates of the service academies and the Ivies.  And I am 
not sure the Ivies are coming out on top.

Jill Adler
Eric 03/14

*** USNA-NET post by: ADLER Eric Jonathan 03 ADLER Jill and STEPHEN <Jillsey11@AOL.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA14063
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:58:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: Paula Kercheval <PaulaK@hartz-chicken.com>
To: "'usna-net@navy-usna.org'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: RE: usna-net: Navy versus the Ivies - a different viewpoint
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:51:50 -0500
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To: Jill Adler

While I agree with your final comment on apples vs. oranges, I think the
author made some very valid points that can not and should not be
ignored. I have never been a proponent of change for change sake;
however, I also have a hard time accepting "we've always done it that
way" as a legitimate reason for status quo. The true talent lies in
finding that ever elusive balance between the two by continually
analyzing not only what you do, but why you do it.

One point that was not covered was the age of the students. We were
shocked last year when our son, at age 18, fresh from high school, was
the exception rather than the rule in his company. It is not unusual to
have Mids with one, two or more years in the fleet, other colleges, at
foundation schools or NAPS. It would be interesting to see the
statistics that relate successful completions with entry age and
experience.

Paula Kercheval
Houston, TX 
Jason 02/18
Christy 03/14

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jillsey11@aol.com [SMTP:Jillsey11@aol.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, August 24, 1999 3:50 PM
> To:	usna-net@navy-usna.org
> Subject:	usna-net: Navy versus the Ivies - a different viewpoint
> 
>      I read with interest the article comparing and contrasting the
> Naval 
> Academy with the Ivy League schools.  While the author had some valid
> points, 
> I think he may have missed the main point.  The Naval Academy is a
> service 
> academy, and its directive is to produce honorable/ethical young men
> and 
> women who are committed to service to their country.  Service may
> imply 
> leadership, but I fail to see how being the head of a Fortune 500
> company 
> fulfills that goal.  Unfortunately, holding a major political office
> does not 
> always imply that one is committed to service to one's country as
> well.  
> Those two forms of employment seem to be about power rather than
> service, in 
> many instances.  Therefore, the fact that the Naval Academy has not
> produced 
> many politicians or heads of business recently does not tell me that
> that its 
> graduates are not "successful."
>      In addition, the Academies and the Ivy League schools are 
> attracting/recruiting two different types of student.  There are very
> few 
> exceptionally brilliant students who are also very capable athletes.  
> Although community service and outside activities are touted as
> important 
> factors for admission to the Ivy League schools, in my experience that
> is 
> fine as long as it is coupled with superb SAT scores and an excellent
> GPA.  
> The Naval Academy seems to be seeking and attracting a slightly
> different 
> student.  These students may not be #1 in their class, or have 1600
> SAT's 
> (although some do), but they are very good students who are also
> involved in 
> a multitude of other things such as sports and other
> leadership-requiring 
> activities.  In other words, they have learned to successfully balance
> a 
> variety of different activities, which may be quite time consuming.  I
> think 
> this capability may be one of the most important predictors of success
> at a 
> place like the Naval Academy.  And I think, considering the physical, 
> emotional and intellectual stressors placed on a student at the
> Academy, the 
> retention rate is excellent.
>      The environment is structured, and perhaps students aren't given
> the 
> opportunity to fail as brilliantly as they are at other institutions.
> But 
> are we doing all 18 year olds a favor when we allow them to succeed or
> fail 
> in school and in life without parental or administrative knowledge
> and/or 
> supervision?  I noticed the author likened school at the Academy to
> medical 
> school, another academic organization dedicated to service.  As
> someone 
> personally involved in medical student education, I think there may be
> too 
> much of an attempt to remediate the failing student.  But these are
> young men 
> and women who are four years older, who have been away from parental
> control 
> and supervision for several years.  And interestingly, some of the
> best 
> students with whom I have worked, who have been standouts in ability,
> work 
> ethic and personal ethics, have been students who have graduated from
> our 
> service academies.  Even more interesting is the fact that I have had
> several 
> students who have been failures in some or all of the above, who have
> been 
> graduates of Ivy League schools.
>      In conclusion, I think we are comparing apples and oranges when
> looking 
> at the goals and graduates of the service academies and the Ivies.
> And I am 
> not sure the Ivies are coming out on top.
> 
> Jill Adler
> Eric 03/14
> 
> *** USNA-NET post by: ADLER Eric Jonathan 03 ADLER Jill and STEPHEN
> <Jillsey11@AOL.com>
> 
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
> 
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
> 

*** USNA-NET post by: KERCHEVAL Jason T 02-18 Christie L 03-14 KERCHEVAL Paula <PaulaK@hartz-chicken.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA14602
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:19:44 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:17:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Oliver <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
X-Sender: joliver@bookworm
To: Jillsey11@aol.com
cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Navy versus the Ivies - a different viewpoint
In-Reply-To: <ae2ec6c5.24f45f7c@aol.com>


	WAY TO GO !!!! I agree with you and I am certain others do also.
We do not minimize the education others obtain.  We are just damned proud
our children chose to serve, as you said.  I remember people asking me,
"When is your saon graduate?"  I would always reply, " He will be
commissioned on May 26." Or, 'what college is he going to?' He doesn't go
to any college, he is at the USNA.  Others do not understand what you have
just written to all of us.
	Thanks for taking the time to write.

					peace and hugs....Jo OLiver
							  John '97
							  Long Island
PS One year, in Fortune magazine, was listed the top 100 CEO's in the
nation.  Some Ivies didn't make it and the academies had a total of 7.


*** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA16345
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:34:04 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:09:58 -0400
From: Richard Santillo <richbev@bellsouth.net>
To: Navy Net Listserver <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: [Fwd: Cell Phone Service]

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:19:51 -0400
From: Richard Santillo <richbev@bellsouth.net>
To: Navy Net Listserver <usna.net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Cell Phone Service

    Here's our experience with cell phone service at USNA:  Last year
our son had an AT&T gov. service contract with a 1 year contract, a
monthly charge, & a per minute charge.  Don't get that.  I know AT&T has
better "one rate" programs this year, but last year the biggest problem
with the service was that we could never get through and he could only
call out if he walked to the rotunda or hung out the window.  This
summer we switched to Sprint with a one rate plan, no contract, and when
we called him on the Yard over the weekend, we got right through to him
in his room!
    I'd like to know what others' experiences have been b/c our
experience with AT&T may have been atypical.  However, I would advise
all to try to find a plan that does not require a contract.
    And while we're at it, since the Yard is so well wired, why can't
the mids have a copier with fax and phone?  That way we wouldn't have to
worry about cell phone access.
    Just wondering...
Bev Santillo (Atlanta, GA)
Doug 01/19 (Tennis)


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*** USNA-NET post by: SANTILLO Douglas 01-19 SANTILLO Richard and Beverly <richbev@bellsouth.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA22778
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:25:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gary Finley" <classics@star.net>
To: <Jillsey11@aol.com>, <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Navy versus the Ivies - a different viewpoint
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:14:17 -0500
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Hi!

We would like to read the article.  Would you tell us where we can obtain a
copy of it?  Thank you.  We really enjoy this listserver and being intouch
with proud, supportive parents of the fine young men and women that attend
the USNA.

GO NAVY/BEAT ARMY!
Gary and Maureen Finley
Kittery, Maine
Thomas, '01, 29th Company
-----Original Message-----
From: Jillsey11@aol.com <Jillsey11@aol.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 3:58 PM
Subject: usna-net: Navy versus the Ivies - a different viewpoint


>     I read with interest the article comparing and contrasting the Naval
>Academy with the Ivy League schools.  While the author had some valid
points,
>I think he may have missed the main point.  The Naval Academy is a service
>academy, and its directive is to produce honorable/ethical young men and
>women who are committed to service to their country.  Service may imply
>leadership, but I fail to see how being the head of a Fortune 500 company
>fulfills that goal.  Unfortunately, holding a major political office does
not
>always imply that one is committed to service to one's country as well.
>Those two forms of employment seem to be about power rather than service,
in
>many instances.  Therefore, the fact that the Naval Academy has not
produced
>many politicians or heads of business recently does not tell me that that
its
>graduates are not "successful."
>     In addition, the Academies and the Ivy League schools are
>attracting/recruiting two different types of student.  There are very few
>exceptionally brilliant students who are also very capable athletes.
>Although community service and outside activities are touted as important
>factors for admission to the Ivy League schools, in my experience that is
>fine as long as it is coupled with superb SAT scores and an excellent GPA.
>The Naval Academy seems to be seeking and attracting a slightly different
>student.  These students may not be #1 in their class, or have 1600 SAT's
>(although some do), but they are very good students who are also involved
in
>a multitude of other things such as sports and other leadership-requiring
>activities.  In other words, they have learned to successfully balance a
>variety of different activities, which may be quite time consuming.  I
think
>this capability may be one of the most important predictors of success at a
>place like the Naval Academy.  And I think, considering the physical,
>emotional and intellectual stressors placed on a student at the Academy,
the
>retention rate is excellent.
>     The environment is structured, and perhaps students aren't given the
>opportunity to fail as brilliantly as they are at other institutions.  But
>are we doing all 18 year olds a favor when we allow them to succeed or fail
>in school and in life without parental or administrative knowledge and/or
>supervision?  I noticed the author likened school at the Academy to medical
>school, another academic organization dedicated to service.  As someone
>personally involved in medical student education, I think there may be too
>much of an attempt to remediate the failing student.  But these are young
men
>and women who are four years older, who have been away from parental
control
>and supervision for several years.  And interestingly, some of the best
>students with whom I have worked, who have been standouts in ability, work
>ethic and personal ethics, have been students who have graduated from our
>service academies.  Even more interesting is the fact that I have had
several
>students who have been failures in some or all of the above, who have been
>graduates of Ivy League schools.
>     In conclusion, I think we are comparing apples and oranges when
looking
>at the goals and graduates of the service academies and the Ivies.  And I
am
>not sure the Ivies are coming out on top.
>
>Jill Adler
>Eric 03/14
>
>*** USNA-NET post by: ADLER Eric Jonathan 03 ADLER Jill and STEPHEN
<Jillsey11@AOL.com>
>
>Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
>Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
>
>


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	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:30:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Nancy Patterson" <nancyp@dialnet.net>
To: "USNANET" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Party Hardy
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:27:41 -0500
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Below read about the colleges.  Interesting!
Nancy
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       Nancy A Patterson    nancyp@dialnet.net
       (417) 743-2327         S.W.  Missouri

       Brad     02/CO 19  Men's Glee Club
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Where to Party, Where to Study
A list of the top 10 party schools as ranked by The Princeton Review's "The
Best 331 Colleges" 2000 edition:
     1. Florida State University
     2. University of Florida
     3. Michigan State University
     4. Seton Hall University (New Jersey)
     5. University of Mississippi
     6. University of Montana
     7. University of Alabama-Tuscaloosa
     8. Sonoma State University (California)
     9. Washington State University
     10. University of Georgia


The top 10 "stone cold sober schools" - whose students report the least
party-favorable atmosphere, according to surveys by The Princeton Review:

     1. Brigham Young University (Utah)
     2. Wheaton College (Illinois)
     3. California Inst. of Technology
     4. U.S. Coast Guard Academy (Connecticut)
     5. U.S. Naval Academy (Maryland)
     6. Bryn Mawr College (Pennsylvania)
     7. Wellesley College (Massachusetts)
     8. Mount Holyoke College (Massachusetts)
     9. Calvin College (Michigan)
     10. College of the Ozarks (Missouri)




*** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy <nancyp@dialnet.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA10660
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:09:15 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:22:17 +0000
Subject: usna-net: Labor Day Protestant Choir
From: David Major <majord@mindspring.com>
To: usna-net <usna-net@navy-usna.org>

Does anyone have any information in the Protestant Choir possibly going to
Virginia Beach over Labor Day?  Where would they be?  When would they go? 
Would it be the whole Choir or are they beginning to make cuts?  (Do they
make cuts from choir?)

Thanks for any info

Deanna Major
Major, David 03/8

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA22636
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:14:01 -0500 (CDT)
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From: "Kay McGee" <kamcg@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Party Hardy
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:13:55 PDT

Hi Nancy & All,

Well, I have a student at one of the schools on the Party Hardy list, and of 
course my mid, so I'm not quite sure what to think.  Hmmmmm...

Kay McGee  WA



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA09765
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:09:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Van Spiros" <BismarkS@worldnet.att.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Ivy articles
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:48:16 -0400
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal

Hi all,
We've been away and seem to be coming into this Ivy article info late.  I
would also appreciate knowing sites to find these articles.  Many people in
our town didn't realize that the Naval Academy is an institution of higher
learning and couldn't understand why "such a smart kid didn't want to go to
college"!!

As for bulletin boards:  One of the most difficult aspects of having any
son/daughter go off to post high school experiences, and especially to a
military academy, is letting go. 
They will be confronted with many opportunities to succeed and to fail and
they'll learn from these experiences.  Our son was really motivated to be
in charge of getting the bulletin boards done for his plebe company.  Most
of the other plebes were NOT and he learned to deal with it.  His plebe
company of very good friends was very involved in sports and just couldn't
manage to find any time (day or night) to work on the boards (even for 15
minutes).  Even the upperclass lectured them and threatened them but they
still didn't cooperate.  The boards did get done by a VERY small handful of
plebes in the wee hours of the morning.  Our son took the blame; was rated
lower in performance and learned to "deal with it without any excuses". 
That's life!! 
Our Mids are achievers with lofty goals but they need to learn that other
people deal with things differently. Encourage your Mid to problem solve
without YOUR getting involved.
Go Navy!!
Carolyn Spiros
Needham, MA


*** USNA-NET post by: SPIROS Michael 01-30 SPIROS Van and Carolyn <BismarkS@worldnet.att.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA11761
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:21:12 -0500 (CDT)
X-Sender: mbt2@mail.psu.edu
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:21:26 -0400
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: Mary Beth Tsikalas <mbt2@psu.edu>
Subject: usna-net: usna article

My son told us a Washington Times reporter took his picture and asked for
his name.  He thought it was going to be in the paper Wednesday, 8/25.  I
checked the online version but didn't find anything.  If anyone in the
Baltimore-Washington area sees the picture, can you let me know?  Thanks. 

*** USNA-NET post by: TSIKALAS Emanuel M 03-21 Mike and Mary Beth <mbt2@psu.edu>




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	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:04:24 -0500 (CDT)
X-Sender: mbt2@mail.psu.edu
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:04:32 -0400
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: Mary Beth Tsikalas <mbt2@psu.edu>
Subject: usna-net: usna-football

FOX SPORTS NET TO TELEVISE NAVY OPENER
Annapolis, MD--Navy's home opener against Georgia Tech on Saturday, Sept. 4,
will be televised live by Fox Sports Net to close to 70 million homes.  Paul
Kennedy will call the play-by-play, while former UCLA quarterback Tom Ramsey
will handle the analysis.
 The game can been seen live on the Fox Sports Net national channel (cable
companies that carry Fox Sports Net that don't have a regional Fox Sports
Net affiliate), Fox Sports Arizona, Fox Sports Bay Area (Northern
California), Fox Sports Chicago (Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Wisconsin), Fox
Sports San Diego (Southern California), Fox Sports Midwest (Illinois,
Indiana, Missouri, Iowa), Fox Sports New York (New York, New Jersey,
Southern Connecticut), Fox Sports Northwest (Washington, Oregon, parts of
Alaska, Idaho and Montana), Fox Sports Ohio (Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio,
Western New York, Western Pennsylvania, West Virginia), Fox Sports
Pittsburgh (Pennsylvania, West Virginia, parts of Ohio and Maryland), Fox
Sports Rocky Mountain (Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Montana, Nebraska, Utah,
Wyoming, parts of New Mexico and Nevada), Fox Sports South (Alabama,
Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee),
Fox Sports Southwest (Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, parts of New
Mexico), Fox Sports West (Southern California, Hawaii, Nevada), Home Team
Sports (District of Columbia, Maryland, Virginia, Delaware, parts of North
Carolina, West Virginia and Pennsylvania), New England Sports Network
(Massachusetts, Rhoda Island, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, parts of
Connecticut) and the Sunshine Network (Florida).
 If you do not see your local Fox Sports Net station on this list, please
contact your cable company to find out if they are going to carry the game.


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	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:10:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: SeaShare@aol.com
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:09:45 EDT
Subject: usna-net: PO Box Change-Help!
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

My grandson's PO box has changed from earlier FOUR numbers which followed the 
zip code to a PO Box which now has FIVE numbers! He suggests 30th company 
need NOT be a part of the new address. It used to be that the FOUR digit PO 
Box number became the second series of numbers in the zip code (example: 
21412-XXXX) Can anyone tell me whether or not the now FIVE digit numbers is 
handled the same way? (example: 21412-XXXXX) Thanks for helping!   
Seashare@aol.com

Charles Share, Proud grandfather
Derek Jaskowiak 03/30 

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	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:24:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Robert Fleischaker" <Bob_Flei@pacbell.net>
To: <SeaShare@aol.com>, <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <d5b71e5d.24f6c0c9@aol.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: PO Box Change-Help!
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:25:27 -0700
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Earlier Sandi had posted the following:

From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Plebe>" <usna-plebe@navy-usna.org>
References: <19990821.162221.-879941.3.ZGALE@juno.com>
Subject: Re: usna-plebe: Correct Mail Address?
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Lee Ann and all other "confused" Plebe Parents,

Address your mail to your Mid as follows:

4/C MIDN (Name)
P.O. Box YXXXX
Annapolis, MD 21412-XXXX

The four digits in the zip match the last four digits in the PO Box. =20
This actually gives your Mid his very own zip code!!

His platoon number is NOW his company number.

Hope this helps.

Sandi

Hope this helps=20
Bob

----- Original Message -----=20
From: <SeaShare@aol.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 9:09 AM
Subject: usna-net: PO Box Change-Help!


> My grandson's PO box has changed from earlier FOUR numbers which =
followed the=20
> zip code to a PO Box which now has FIVE numbers! He suggests 30th =
company=20
> need NOT be a part of the new address. It used to be that the FOUR =
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> Box number became the second series of numbers in the zip code =
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> 21412-XXXX) Can anyone tell me whether or not the now FIVE digit =
numbers is=20
> handled the same way? (example: 21412-XXXXX) Thanks for helping!  =20
> Seashare@aol.com
>=20
> Charles Share, Proud grandfather
> Derek Jaskowiak 03/30=20
>=20
> *** USNA-NET post by: JASKOWIAK Derek C 03 SHARE Charles and Rose =
<SeaShare@aol.com>
>=20
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>=20
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
>=20
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<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>The four digits in the =
zip match the=20
last four digits in the PO Box.&nbsp; <BR>This actually gives your Mid =
his very=20
own zip code!!</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>His platoon number is NOW =
his company=20
number.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Hope this =
helps.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
size=3D2>Sandi<BR></FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Hope this helps </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT>
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NOT be a=20
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Box=20
number became the second series of numbers in the zip code (example: =
<BR>&gt;=20
21412-XXXX) Can anyone tell me whether or not the now FIVE digit numbers =
is=20
<BR>&gt; handled the same way? (example: 21412-XXXXX) Thanks for=20
helping!&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:Seashare@aol.com">Seashare@aol.com</A><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =
Charles=20
Share, Proud grandfather<BR>&gt; Derek Jaskowiak 03/30 <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =
***=20
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA20447
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:27:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: JWHEnterp@aol.com
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:27:24 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Sponsor Mom Introduction
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi All - GO NAVY!
     I'm a Sponsor Mother to 3 youngsters and 1 plebe.  We are lucky to live 
within walking distance of the Yard, so they can easily reach us and we can 
go down for public activities.  We left our 3 grown sons in Denver when we 
moved to Annapolis in 1998, and have thoroughly enjoyed replacing them with 
boys in Companies 7, 15 and 25.  Our youngsters are from Florida, Missouri 
and New Hampshire and the plebe is from Virginia. 
     Those of you who are plebe parents will have to take it from me that the 
changes in your son/daughter will be immense during the coming year.  I am 
lucky.  I get to see those changes weekly.  You'll have to wait for Leave.  
There is no way I can rave enough about the discipline, tradition and 
intensity of this first year, and how it has affected "my"  '02 boys.  They 
are fine young men, and I am exceedingly proud of them.  Everything that they 
went through was worth it to become the persons they have become.
     Hang in there!  It's going to be a great year, in spite of 
sleeplessness, hard courses and upperclassmen!!!  DO contact your son or 
daughter's Sponsor Family.  I'm sure it will be a rewarding relationship for 
the next 4 years ---  for all of you.       BEAT ARMY!!      Joyce H.

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA21199
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:05:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: SeaShare@aol.com
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:05:01 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Thanks/Address HELPERS
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Thanks to all 15 individuals who forwarded the correct address procedure 
within ten minutes after the request was made! This is truly a wonderment for 
an old(er) man and you're all helped me learn abaout boards, yps, 
ratings,etc...It is really great!!! 

Charles Share, Proud Grandpa
Derek Jaskowiak 

*** USNA-NET post by: JASKOWIAK Derek C 03 SHARE Charles and Rose <SeaShare@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA21235
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:05:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: SeaShare@aol.com
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:05:04 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Thanks/Address HELPERS
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Thanks to all 15 individuals who forwarded the correct address procedure 
within ten minutes after the request was made! This is truly a wonderment for 
an old(er) man and you're all helped me learn abaout boards, yps, 
ratings,etc...It is really great!!! 

Charles Share, Proud Grandpa
Derek Jaskowiak 

*** USNA-NET post by: JASKOWIAK Derek C 03 SHARE Charles and Rose <SeaShare@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA26101
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:27:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Cielorosso@aol.com
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:26:54 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Question
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

To all:
After reading the article about the Ivy League versus Naval Academy, a 
question came to my mind.  The author says that only one senator (John 
McCain) is currently serving in the Legislative Branch but what about in the 
Congress?  Does anyone know?  How about Supreme Court judges? or Ambassadors?
Sandra Rogers
David02/15

*** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS David T 02-15 ROGERS Sandra and Tom <Cielorosso@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA05961
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:44:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Stamperhog@aol.com
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:42:48 EDT
Subject: Re:  usna-net: Ivy articles
To: BismarkS@worldnet.att.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org


In a message dated 8/26/99 8:23:05 AM, BismarkS@worldnet.att.net wrote:

<<Many people in
our town didn't realize that the Naval Academy is an institution of higher
learning and couldn't understand why "such a smart kid didn't want to go to
college"!!
>>

You think THAT'S weird???????  You would not believe the number of people who 
think we sent Ben off to a reform school!!!!  They just don't "get it" that 
all military schools are not for kids who have behavior problems.  I 
wonder...... have these people been living in a rabbit hole for their entire 
lives????  How can you NOT know about the Naval Academy? I bet if we said 
"West Point" they'd KNOW!!!  I guess USNA needs more exposure.

Lynn

*** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn <Stamperhog@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA06348
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:01:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: DCA01@aol.com
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:01:48 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Kent State Game
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I received this message from the parents' clubs coordinator.  Apparently some 
of the calendars have the date of this game as October 16.  If someone 
already has their tickets, could you please verify the dates - just a double 
check.  Am sure that Elizabeth is probably correct.  Apparently there is some 
confusion tho.  
GO NAVY
Nancy Aubel
Erik 00/12 

Subject:    Tailgate at Kent
> 
> Dear Presidents,
> 
> Please immediately send this message via e-mail to all of your members!
> Anyone that is planning on attending this game will probably want to
> meet with Academy friends at the tailgate which is sponsored by both the
> local parents' club and alumni chapter!
> 
> The Navy/Kent Tailgate will be held on September 11, 1999 from 3:00 -
> 6:00 p.m.  The cost is $10.00 per person for all you can eat, burgers,
> sausage sandwiches, side dish, soda and dessert.
> 
> For reservations send check payable to NEONAP and self-addressed
> envelope to Ray Velcio, 1070 Abbieshire Avenue, Lakewood, OH 44107.
> Must be received by August 28th.  Directions to the tailgate will be
> sent with tickets.  Tickets may also be ordered from Ray at $8.00 each
> which includes parking.
> 
> Kickoff is 6:00 p.m.
> 
> There is still time to mail your reservations for arrival by August
> 28th!!!!!!
> 
> GO NAVY! - Elizabeth
> 
> Elizabeth Peltosalo
> 

*** USNA-NET post by: AUBEL Erik 00-12 AUBEL Nancy and Dave <DCA01@aol.com >




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA06455
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:04:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: connie4@bellsouth.net
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:57:30 -0400
To: Cielorosso@aol.com
CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Question
References: <44d5a080.24f6e0ee@aol.com>

Sen Kerrey (sp?)-Democrat- is a Navy SEAL.

Cielorosso@aol.com wrote:

> To all:
> After reading the article about the Ivy League versus Naval Academy, a
> question came to my mind.  The author says that only one senator (John
> McCain) is currently serving in the Legislative Branch but what about in the
> Congress?  Does anyone know?  How about Supreme Court judges? or Ambassadors?
> Sandra Rogers
> David02/15
>
> *** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS David T 02-15 ROGERS Sandra and Tom <Cielorosso@aol.com>
>
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org




*** USNA-NET post by: HILLIARD Brandon Barrett 03 HILLIARD Connie and Dale <connie4@bellsouth.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA06525
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:06:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: Stamperhog@aol.com
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:05:23 EDT
Subject: Re:  usna-net: usna-football
To: mbt2@psu.edu, usna-net@navy-usna.org


In a message dated 8/26/99 11:14:54 AM, mbt2@psu.edu wrote:

<<Navy's home opener against Georgia Tech on Saturday, Sept. 4,
will be televised live by Fox Sports Net to close to 70 million homes.  
 The game can been seen live on the Fox Sports Net national channel (cable
companies that carry Fox Sports Net that don't have a regional Fox Sports
Net >>

Everything we need to know except the TIME of the game...

Lynn


*** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn <Stamperhog@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA06944
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:25:37 -0500 (CDT)
X-Sender: mbt2@mail.psu.edu
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:26:00 -0400
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: Mary Beth Tsikalas <mbt2@psu.edu>
Subject: usna-net: usna football

A few folks have written to me asking if I know the time of the Fox Sports
televised Navy football game on Saturday, 9/4.  I don't.  Can someone who
knows please send the kick-off time to the listserve?

Thanks!

*** USNA-NET post by: TSIKALAS Emanuel M 03-21 Mike and Mary Beth <mbt2@psu.edu>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA07152
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:30:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Nancy Patterson" <nancyp@dialnet.net>
To: <Stamperhog@aol.com>, <BismarkS@worldnet.att.net>,
        <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <df32db71.24f700c8@aol.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Ivy articles
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:28:04 -0500
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The typical conversation:

Person:    "What does your older son do?"
Me:            "He is at the Naval Academy."
Person:     "Oh really, where is he stationed?"
Me:            "He's in Annapolis, Maryland, the Naval Academy, he's a
student."
Person        blank stare
Me:            "Do you know what West Point is?"
Person:     "OH SURE!!"
Me:            "Brad is at Navy's West Point, the USNA, Annapolis,
Maryland!"

GO NAVY BEAT ARMY
*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*
       Nancy A Patterson    nancyp@dialnet.net
       (417) 743-2327         S.W.  Missouri

       Brad     02/CO 19  Men's Glee Club
*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*


*** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy <nancyp@dialnet.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA07251
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:35:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: Paula Kercheval <PaulaK@hartz-chicken.com>
To: "'usna-net@navy-usna.org'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: FW: usna-net: Ivy articles
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:28:29 -0500

> Our parent's club has the best shirt to handle this problem. The
> following phase wraps around the USNA Seal:
> My Son (or Daughter) and your money go to the United States Naval
> Academy - Thank you very much.
> 
> Even strangers smile at that one.
> Paula
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Stamperhog@aol.com [SMTP:Stamperhog@aol.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, August 26, 1999 3:43 PM
> To:	BismarkS@worldnet.att.net; usna-net@navy-usna.org
> Subject:	Re:  usna-net: Ivy articles
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/26/99 8:23:05 AM, BismarkS@worldnet.att.net
> wrote:
> 
> <<Many people in
> our town didn't realize that the Naval Academy is an institution of
> higher
> learning and couldn't understand why "such a smart kid didn't want to
> go to
> college"!!
> >>
> 
> You think THAT'S weird???????  You would not believe the number of
> people who 
> think we sent Ben off to a reform school!!!!  They just don't "get it"
> that 
> all military schools are not for kids who have behavior problems.  I 
> wonder...... have these people been living in a rabbit hole for their
> entire 
> lives????  How can you NOT know about the Naval Academy? I bet if we
> said 
> "West Point" they'd KNOW!!!  I guess USNA needs more exposure.
> 
> Lynn
> 
> *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn
> <Stamperhog@aol.com>
> 
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
> 
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
> 

*** USNA-NET post by: KERCHEVAL Jason T 02-18 Christie L 03-14 KERCHEVAL Paula <PaulaK@hartz-chicken.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA07568
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:47:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:47:09 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: usna football
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

according to the sports page of our Local paper (Phila. Inq.) which listed 
all games for all colleges.....Kent State is 9/11
which makes sense since, there is also a game on 9/4 and on 9/18

Also all home games are scheduled for a noon kick-off....
Dindy Liebert 
Peter00/25

*** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter <LIEBERTCO@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA07966
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:05:58 -0500 (CDT)
X-Sender: thedwall#pop.iquest.net@192.168.16.128
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:06:14 -0500
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: Rick Thedwall <thedwall@wish-tv.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: usna football
In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990826172133.00b0b630@mail.psu.edu>

Navy Football 1999 Schedule:

September 4  Georgia Tech         12 p.m.                 Fox Sports Net
Georgia Tech leads, 13-9    Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium

September 11 at Kent                    6 p.m.               
Navy leads, 3-0             Dix Stadium, Kent, Ohio

September 18 Boston College   12 p.m.               Fox Sports Net
Boston College leads, 13-11 Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium

September 25 at Rice                     8 p.m.               
Rice leads, 3-2             Rice Stadium, Houston, Texas

October 2    at West Virginia         12 p.m.                       TBA
Navy leads, 5-2             Mountaineer Field, Morgantown, W.Va.

October 9    Air Force                     12 p.m.              Fox Sports Net
Air Force leads, 21-10      Jack Kent Cooke Stadium,  Raljon, Md.

October 23   Akron                         12 p.m.
Navy leads, 1-0             Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium

October 30   at Notre Dame        2:30 p.m.                  NBC
Notre Dame leads, 62-9-1    Notre Dame Stadium, South Bend, Ind.

November 6   at Rutgers             TBA                            TBA
Navy leads, 8-5-1           Rutgers Stadium, Piscataway, N.J.

November 13  Tulane                   12 p.m.
Tulane leads, 7-4-1         Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium

November 20  at Hawai'i            11 p.m.                       TBA 
First Meeting               Aloha Stadium,  Honolulu, Hawaii

December 4   vs. Army                12 p.m.                      CBS
Army leads, 48-44-7         Veterans Stadium, Philadelphia, Pa.

                    - All times Eastern


Rick Thedwall
WISH-TV Program Manager

*** USNA-NET post by: THEDWALL Craig Steven 03 THEDWALL Rick <thedwall@wish-tv.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA19837
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:10:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:08:38 EDT
Subject: Re:  Re:  usna-net: Ivy articles
To: Stamperhog@aol.com, BismarkS@worldnet.att.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org

My daughter had a roommate at college last year whose brother is enlisted 
Navy.  Her family asked where the Naval Academy was.

*** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy <amysoule@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA24868
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:28:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: Janet Ferrara <ferrara@ez2.net>
To: "'USNA Net'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Ivy articles.
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:22:27 -0700

To Amy Soule and all:

I read Amy Soule's last posting and laughed. I have had many people ask me 
where Annapolis is too, then they say, "Oh the Military Academy?"  NO, I 
tell them, it is the Naval Academy, in Maryland!  Some people just aren't 
aware of it out here in California.
But, I educate them real fast!

Thanks, for the laugh Amy!

Navy, Beat Army!
Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, CA
Webmaster for USNA Parents' Club of Southern California
www.web2000.com/usnapcsc
Michael, Class of 2000, Co. 15



*** USNA-NET post by: FERRARA Michael 00 FERRARA Janet & Tom <ferrara@ez2.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25104
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:42:07 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1980 01:25:20 -0800
From: Stanford <stanford@mail.icongrp.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: USNA/8/27/99

Hi All

My mother thought Tim was going to Indianapolis, not Annapolis.  Now I 
don't know why she would think that the Naval Academy would be in the 
middle of Indiana, other then the two towns have similar sounding names.
I try to educate too

Linda
Indiana

*** USNA-NET post by: STANFORD Timothy 02-23 STANFORD Linda <stanford@mail.icongrp.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA26540
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:00:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: New Website Feature
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:57:10 -0400
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To all...

We have added a pop-up window on the Main Website which contains a single
Clickable Link of Interest.  It is our intention to update this link almost
daily so that there is always something new to look forward to when you
visit the site.

The small window may be closed at any time to eliminate it from your
browser's screen.  Clicking on the link in this little window will open
another full sized browser session with the link's content displayed.  You
can also close this window at anytime while still leaving the main browser
set to our website.

Enjoy.  And while you're at it, we're taking suggestions for your favorite
Navy Related Site for inclusion in this little billboard.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org




*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike <mzets@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA28649
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:19:25 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:20:24 -0500
From: Randy Voss <rvoss@mwt.net>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Officer directory

How can I find the full name and address or e-mail address of any
specific officer at the academy?  For example I would like to mail or
e-mail something to an officer of company 12 3rd battalion.  He is a
Marine and his name is Smith.  He was on deck for the parents at PPW and
I spoke to him.  He is a Marine Captain.  So, how can I find Marine
Captain Smith?  Is there a directory or all the officers at the
Academy.  There actually are a couple others I would like to get in
touch with.  

Thank you.
Randy Voss, LaValle, WI  e-mail: rvoss@mwt.net
My Mid is: Midn. Jordon R. Voss, 03/ Company 15

*** USNA-NET post by: VOSS Jordon R 03-15 VOSS Randy and Michele <rvoss@mwt.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA27700
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:54:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: EFi3346410@aol.com
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:54:35 EDT
Subject: usna-net: where is your child?
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Don't forget when educating the uneducated, let them know that there are more 
country club privelages at the reform schools,  but our kids turn out great 
anyway.

Lynn Fisher     Jamie 02/25
St. Louis

*** USNA-NET post by: FISHER Jamie K. 02-25 FISHER Lynn <EFi3346410@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA03497
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:00:27 -0500 (CDT)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:56:28 -0500
Subject: usna-net: Navy vs. Hawaii Travel Companion
X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,3-4,9-10,17-25
X-Juno-Att: 0
X-Juno-RefParts: 0
From: P S Schroeder <pss@juno.com>

Hi,
My husband is unable to attend the Navy vs. Hawaii game with me (Nov.
20), so I am looking for a football-loving (esp. Navy)  mid-MOM  :-) to
travel with me.   If you like to golf, that would be a bonus for me.

I am thinking of travelling on the Tues. or Wed.  before, and coming back
the following Mon. or Tues.  We could share condo or hotel expenses, as
well as a rent-a-car, and I would do the planning.  I have been there
many times, so I think I could get a good (economical, but nice)  and
convenient situation.

I have travel priviledges on NWA due to my husband's former employment
there, so I fly on stand-by.  I know there are probably some other
airline employees on this list, so that is something I am looking for. 
Or someone who doesn't mind buying a full-fare ticket, and who is okay
with the fact that I might not get there the first day I try.  :-I  I
will fly out of Minneapolis, but might be able to meet you at your
departure airport too?  

If you are interested, please contact me at 
pss@juno.com
or
612-934-2621

Penny Schroeder-MN
Jim 99/08
Mike 01/23
___________________________________________________________________
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*** USNA-NET post by: SCHROEDER Michael J 01-23 James A. 99 -8 SCHROEDER Penny <pss@juno.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA04954
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:14:30 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:15:01 -0700
From: nohitter <fosterj@vcss.k12.ca.us>
X-Accept-Language: en
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Ivy articles.

This whole thread showing the ignorance
of people not knowing of the Naval
Academy, its purpose, and its location
just provides evidence of the PATHETIC
job k-12 education has done over the
years regarding geography, as well as
the significance of ALL the academies
and their role in society.
Unbelievable...
 
 
***********************
Joe Foster
Matt  '03/22 - Baseball
Ventura,  CA

*** USNA-NET post by: FOSTER Matthew C. 03 FOSTER Joseph <fosterj@vcss.k12.ca.us>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA06558
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:05:57 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:03:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Oliver <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
X-Sender: joliver@bookworm
To: nohitter <fosterj@vcss.k12.ca.us>
cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Ivy articles.  REPLY
In-Reply-To: <37C6AB75.9BE7FA5F@vcss.k12.ca.us>


	You are right on the dime.  Yesterday, I went to get a malted and
the 19yo did not know how much change I was supposed to get as the
computer was down.  They teach them all this stuff about other countries,
which is OK if they knew more about their own and the poor we have in our
own towns, and they can't add and subtract.  "..but, let's lower the
standards so everyone can get a diploma..." really, to put it in the
words of our children,it  sucks! :-(  :-(.  Teachers claim they have too
much
work and too many students.  Then, tell me this how did the nuns handle 60
in a class with everyone passing on their own?
	There are teachers in our school district that receive over
$60,000 a year and claim that is not enough.  I am an RN and when you work
for an agency the pay runs from $11-30/hr.  You can only get the higher
amount if you are a specialist and have had experience in your particular
field.
	Perhaps, if people were not so greedy, the rich who know how to
make it would teach the poor how to do the same.  Also, they would share
their wealth with those who are less fortunated.
	I could go on and on, but do not want to be sent off this list.
There are some who do get very little for their work and experience, but
everyone wants more money.  I must tell you, I was once married to an
attorney and never had to worry about what I spent or how I spent it.  I
did a lot of volunteer work.  I am happier and at peace now that I get
just a small amount from disability.  It is a fixed income, but one cannot
imagine how you immediately realize what is important in life.  I love my
4 sons and they love me and  I have trust in a
Higher Power Who will care for me, so how can I go wrong?
	You've got my fire lit!!!!!

					peace and hugs......Jo Oliver
							    John '97
							    Long Island NY


*** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA07336
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:21:38 -0500 (CDT)
Delivered-To: fixup-usna-net@navy-usna.org@fixme
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:28:53 +0100
From: The Deckers <z141820decker@uswest.net>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Navy vs. Georgia Tech Tickets

We have available 4 Navy v. Georgia Tech football tickets for 9/4/99,
parade:  11:30  am   game:  12:00 pm  $22.00 each, Upper Blue section

As it is our plebe's birthday we had planned to visit that weekend, but
just heard she will
be going to Virginia Beach w/Protestant choir that weekend, so... quick
alteration in destination.

If interested in any/all let me know. Thanks. Go Navy!
Karen & Scott Decker
Caitlin 03/22


*** USNA-NET post by: DECKER Caitlin A 03-22 DECKER Scott and Karen <z141820decker@uswest.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA09794
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:22:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Moyra Evans" <evans@dorea.co.za>
To: "USNA-Net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Naval Academy? Annapolis?
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:06:03 +0200
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I have been reading the posts about the igorance of some of the American
people about the existence of the Naval Academy with great amusement.  Here
I was thinking ... if I were in the USA, I should not need to explain to
everyone who asked me about my son and where he was studying.  Most people,
even in South Africa, know about West Point, so I generally say that the
Naval Academy is the Naval version of West Point, and its "sister"
institution.   That seems to make some sense to them.  Even then, most
people also assume, as some of you have mentioned, that my son has enlisted
in the US Navy.  Then I explain that he is actually doing a university
degree.  Generally there are still fairly blank expressions and sometimes
nervous smiles - often from my colleagues at the university where I teach.
Why, they seem to say, does her son go to a Naval university in America when
he can go to a perfectly respectable university in South Africa?  My husband
proudly displays a Naval Academy sticker on his car which no-one but he
himself notices and which, if they did, would not mean anything to him.
Still, I suppose it is enough that we know that our son is at one of the
best educational institutions in the world,  getting himself a fine
education, making friends he will have for the rest of his life, and that he
will have a career to be proud of when he graduates.
I have also been reading, as always with some envy, the posts from parents
who personally delivered their mids to the Academy after their summer
vacations.  But I am also, as always, deeply grateful to those parents who
share their experiences of the Academy with those of us on the list who are
not able to be there.  My son flew back to the US last week so the home once
again has a feeling of emptiness in it - as so many of yours do too.  But he
left with a happy smile - he had had a good break and he was looking forward
to seeing his friends and to starting the new academic year.  The Academy
has become a second home to him and he feels he belongs there.  He also
loved every minute of his summer cruise and other details (his time at the
marine base, at Pensacola flight school and on the submarine - and of course
the offshore activities too!)   He is happy with the choices he has made.
What more can a mother want for her only son?
I thought that, when he left this time, I would (as usual) be heartbroken,
but the fact that he is well and truly settled at the Academy enabled me to
see him off at the airport with a light heart and I noticed only two small
tears trickling down my cheeks.
Moyra Evans
South Africa
H.V. Llewellyn Evans, 01, 24th Company



*** USNA-NET post by: EVANS Houston 01-24 EVANS Moyra <evans@dorea.co.za>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA10470
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:36:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Enough...
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:35:51 -0400
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Our Lists are for PARENTING. 
 
Our Lists are for SUPPORT.  

Our Lists are NOT for political commentary, however well intentioned.  

PLEASE keep your posts to USNA Parenting!!   

THAT is what we are here for.

Sandi Zets
Westlake, OH
jsandi@mail.com
Co-Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Co-Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org






*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) <jsandi@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA10565
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:42:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: Stamperhog@aol.com
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:41:04 EDT
Subject: Re:  usna-net: Naval Academy? Annapolis?
To: evans@dorea.co.za, usna-net@navy-usna.org


In a message dated 8/27/99 11:32:31 AM, evans@dorea.co.za wrote:

<< Most people,
even in South Africa, know about West Point, so I generally say that the
Naval Academy is the Naval version of West Point, and its "sister"
institution.   That seems to make some sense to them. >>

Just goes to prove what someone else just stated:  That the AMERICAN public 
school system has not properly educated our kids on what's what in THIS 
country. Sad to see that other countries do a better job of this, but then it 
would be even SADDER to see that other countries had lowered their 
educational standards to meet OURS!  It's a great thing that we HAVE schools 
like USNA...... if we had to rely on PUBLIC school graduates to lead us, 
Kruschev would have been RIGHT! They WOULD bury us!!!!

Lynn (who is NOW stepping down off the soap-box)


*** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn <Stamperhog@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA10719
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:48:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Michael" <MS92@email.msn.com>
To: "USNA-NET" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Article
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:53:39 -0400
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I've been away.  Does someone have a link to, or a copy of the USNA/Ivy
League article?  Thanks.




*** USNA-NET post by: SPINELLI Joseph 01-9 SPINELLI Michael <MS92@email.msn.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA15743
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:34:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: ACTIONCHEM@aol.com
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:32:21 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Ivy articles.  REPLY
To: joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us, USNA-NET@navy-usna.org

Ms. Oliver,
  As an extremely dedicated public school teacher, I find your comments 
offensive.  I feel this type of communication does not belong on our parents 
net.
Penny Hulbert

*** USNA-NET post by: HULBERT Eric 02-16 HULBERT Bob and Penny <ACTIONCHEM@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA20724
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:57:57 -0500 (CDT)
To: ACTIONCHEM@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:57:47 -0400
Subject: usna-net: Positive thinking.
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From: Lee Ann Gale <zgale@juno.com>

I agree!  Reading all these comments just now, from today, was very
disappointing.

I think our children would be ashamed of such negativity.  We should be
about building up the "American way of life" and supporting our children,
the institutions they are lucky to attend and each other.  If you're not
part of the solution then you are part of the problem.  If people need to
be educated about USNA, then educate them and move on. We are part of a
support net work, not a tearing down net work.

Lee Ann Gale


On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:32:21 EDT ACTIONCHEM@aol.com writes:
> Ms. Oliver,
>   As an extremely dedicated public school teacher, I find your 
> comments 
> offensive.  I feel this type of communication does not belong on our 
> parents 
> net.
> Penny Hulbert
> 
> *** USNA-NET post by: HULBERT Eric 02-16 HULBERT Bob and Penny 
> <ACTIONCHEM@aol.com>
> 
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
> 
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
> 
> 

*** USNA-NET post by: GALE Timothy 03 GALE Lee Ann and Greg <ZGALE@JUNO.COM>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA21146
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:21:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: MLBD718@aol.com
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:21:24 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Public schools
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Sandi,
This is the first time I am writing in....I will keep this to Navy parenting 
as much as possible.   My son and MANY MANY of the Mids are from PUBLIC 
SCHOOLS. I support them all. They got there from working hard and public 
school teachers that work hard like Penny.   Jo and Lynn do not speak for us 
all.  
Mary Lou

*** USNA-NET post by: DALO James J. 03 DALO Mary Lou <MLBD718@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA21432
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:42:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: Paula Kercheval <PaulaK@hartz-chicken.com>
To: "'usna-net@navy-usna.org'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: RE: usna-net: Positive thinking.
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:35:46 -0500

Here is something very positive about USNA. I've been wondering if I
should share this, but I'm betting other parents have had the same
experience. USNA has given me back my kids. The ones that use to let me
tuck them in at night. You know, before they got too cool and their
friends became the most important things in their lives. 

Plebe summer and Plebe year did that. When all their friends went to
party schools and only wrote once or twice, Mom and Dad kept writing
encouraging words - even if the letters writing was only one sided. Mom
and Dad got 800 numbers so the calls home would be "free" and easy and
sent calling cards so they could talk with friends even if they had less
and less in common to talk about. 

That same kid who didn't want to be seen in the car with you now ends
each e-mail and phone call with "I love you" - no matter who is standing
around. They now look forward to introducing you to their new friends
and fellow survivors and don't mind if you take them all for coffee or
dinner when you are in town. They appreciate us and our support and have
reached a level of maturity in there adult relationships with us that
many of there civil counterparts may not reach until they have families
of their own. We have been blessed and we have our kids back!

Paula K
Houston TX
Jason 02/18
Christy 03/14

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Lee Ann Gale [SMTP:zgale@juno.com]
> Sent:	Friday, August 27, 1999 3:58 PM
> To:	ACTIONCHEM@aol.com; usna-net@navy-usna.org
> Subject:	usna-net: Positive thinking.
> 
> I agree!  Reading all these comments just now, from today, was very
> disappointing.
> 
> I think our children would be ashamed of such negativity.  We should
> be
> about building up the "American way of life" and supporting our
> children,
> the institutions they are lucky to attend and each other.  If you're
> not
> part of the solution then you are part of the problem.  If people need
> to
> be educated about USNA, then educate them and move on. We are part of
> a
> support net work, not a tearing down net work.
> 
> Lee Ann Gale
> 
> 
> On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:32:21 EDT ACTIONCHEM@aol.com writes:
> > Ms. Oliver,
> >   As an extremely dedicated public school teacher, I find your 
> > comments 
> > offensive.  I feel this type of communication does not belong on our
> 
> > parents 
> > net.
> > Penny Hulbert
> > 
> > *** USNA-NET post by: HULBERT Eric 02-16 HULBERT Bob and Penny 
> > <ACTIONCHEM@aol.com>
> > 
> > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
> > 
> > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
> > 
> > 
> 
> *** USNA-NET post by: GALE Timothy 03 GALE Lee Ann and Greg
> <ZGALE@JUNO.COM>
> 
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
> 
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
> 

*** USNA-NET post by: KERCHEVAL Jason T 02-18 Christie L 03-14 KERCHEVAL Paula <PaulaK@hartz-chicken.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA21493
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:43:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: connie4@bellsouth.net
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:36:07 -0400
To: Nancy Patterson <nancyp@dialnet.net>
CC: Stamperhog@aol.com, BismarkS@worldnet.att.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Ivy articles
References: <df32db71.24f700c8@aol.com> <002b01bef009$e2d786a0$ac10dfd0@default>

With regards to educating others about USNA...

Disneyworld spends a lot of time training employees on how to treat visitors.  In particular,
they tell the street sweepers (guys with the little brooms and dust pans) that "even though
you are asked 500 times a day where the bathroom is, you MUST remember the 500th person is
asking you for the FIRST time.  Don't lose patience.  NEVER lose the fantasy."

I think this is the attitude you should have towards those who don't understand USNA.   Be
patient and positive...just like your Mids are to the thousands of visitors they deal with
each day.

Nancy Patterson wrote:

> The typical conversation:
>
> Person:    "What does your older son do?"
> Me:            "He is at the Naval Academy."
> Person:     "Oh really, where is he stationed?"
> Me:            "He's in Annapolis, Maryland, the Naval Academy, he's a
> student."
> Person        blank stare
> Me:            "Do you know what West Point is?"
> Person:     "OH SURE!!"
> Me:            "Brad is at Navy's West Point, the USNA, Annapolis,
> Maryland!"
>
> GO NAVY BEAT ARMY
> *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*
>        Nancy A Patterson    nancyp@dialnet.net
>        (417) 743-2327         S.W.  Missouri
>
>        Brad     02/CO 19  Men's Glee Club
> *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*
>
> *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy <nancyp@dialnet.net>
>
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org




*** USNA-NET post by: HILLIARD Brandon Barrett 03 HILLIARD Connie and Dale <connie4@bellsouth.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA04228
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:47:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: READ THIS !!!
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:44:55 -0400
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To All USNA-Net Members...

Today was a true example of what can happen when "adults" don't follow the
rules.  It took me over an hour to sort through all of it and be debriefed
by Sandi when I came home from my real job.

This Network is ONLY about USNA Parenting.

WHAT PART OF THAT STATEMENT DON'T MEMBERS UNDERSTAND????

I will not tolerate Soapboxes (Political or otherwise) and members thinking
that the rules only apply to others.

I can and WILL shut this entire Listserver down the next time this sort of
run away BS takes over the Net.   As a result of these outright and willful
"Rules" violations by more than a few members, we have lost others who have
unsubscribed, some in rather indignant fashion.  I don't blame them.  For
two cents, I'd quit too.  There haven't been enough good postings in the
past weeks to justify the time it takes to read through the BS.

I WILL enforce the rules!   You WILL read them and abide by them or
unsubscribe.  Every time you hit the send button, you are forcing about ONE
THOUSAND parents to read what you are writing.  How dare some of you think
for one minute that you have the right to force these fine people (who are
members in order to better understand the USNA and help in supporting the
ideals and objectives of their Mids) to read YOUR OPINION about the
"............." !!!

I have said repeatedly that this Network is not about opinions, gossip or
trivial matters.  We are not a CHAT ROOM or a PUBLIC FORUM.  If you don't
like that... TOUGH !!!  You are hereby invited to go form your own
listserver and talk about whatever you please.

I will be rewriting the rules this weekend to make them more understandable
and more forceful in what we as a group of concerned USNA Parents want to
achieve with this service.  None of the rules will change - Only the
language, so that there will be no misunderstanding when read.

In the meantime, those members that were directly involved in this entire
affair about "Education" have been dealt with privately by your Moderators.
Since there were so many and there isn't enough rope to hang them all, they
will all be reinstated with full privileges but with the understanding that
this will not happen again.

As a group, you are all to be commended for keeping your cool and letting
the issue pass.  I would like to thank all of you who have expressed your
gratitude to Sandi and me over the past months for Moderating these Lists.
As most of you know, this is entirely volunteer and between the two of us,
we watch over this list for over 18 hours each day.  It can be truly trying
at times but  I feel it is a labor of love.  The reward comes when we can
sit back and remember helping this member or that in a hundred little ways
since last January.

We need each other and we need to continue helping each other.  Perhaps our
mission can best be summed up in this way.  If you have a need, ask for
help.  If you have help, give it freely.  If it doesn't fall into those two
categories, keep it to yourself.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org








*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike <mzets@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA04750
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:12:11 -0500 (CDT)
X-Sender: dutch@communique.net (Unverified)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:15:30 -0500
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: mhawkins <dutch@communique.net>
Subject: usna-net: Letting Go

Dear Navy Family,

I've been reading your letters from the Bulletin Board since Parents
Weekend and have thoroughly enjoyed them. Of course, they make me think
alot about my own feelings of my wonderful son going to The Academy. My son
had one year at a large local university about 90 miles from home. He
certainly cut the apron strings last year and made it quiet well known who
was making his decisions. I do think that The Academy is right for him.
Last year he could not believe the number of students in the university who
did not go to class on Friday. Two of his classes had 275 students in them.
There were so many keg parties that you didn't know which one to attend
first. I have felt much more close to him this summer than ever. Parents
weekend was a wonderful experience. My son, who is usually very quiet,
talked constantly the first day. He was certainly much more appreciative of
spending time with me than he was when he went to the other university. 

People asked me had I seen a change in him. He was much more polite,
talkative, and appreciative of his parents. He was always an honorable,
hardworking, athletic, intelligent young man. I am so proud to have raised
this young man. He will be in school now with people who think like he
does. I have no doubt after Parents Weekend that he is in the right place.
Many thanks to The Academy that made me feel so welcome and part of my
son's life.

M. Hawkins 
Proud Plebe Mom of MIDN R.A. Hawkins 03
Louisiana



*** USNA-NET post by: HAWKINS Rudolf A 03-6 HAWKINS Rudolf and Marilynn <dutch@communique.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA08785
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:22:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:22:05 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Friday Night
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello,
What do the Youngsters do Friday night? I plan to visit in Oct and I was 
wondering if I can see my mid Friday night. Last year we sat in Dalgren on a 
Friday night, but now that they are working with the plebes does yard liberty 
change?
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
LTWT CREW
Houston,
TX

*** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol <Jhb317@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA14269
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:49:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: CMELLO5523@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:48:56 EDT
Subject: RE: usna-net: Positive thinking.
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Well Said Paula,

We have enjoyed this list server since nearly the beginning.  I seldom post 
much, but enjoy reading others e-mail postings.

Mike Z.  You are 100% right to remind people that there are severel hundred 
people at least who read the postings on the server and what we write should 
have a positive spin and have something to relate to USNA or our Mids 
attending there.

Here's a bit of info;
OUR Mid who is a Youngster is doing Great!  Life is at least better than 
being a Plebe is the reply we've gotten so far.

Looking  forward to Navy/Army!  Don't forget to wear your Red/White & Blue 
ribbon there so we'll know who is a listserver member.
GO NAVY
Mary Mello
Charles 02, 1st Co.
Seekonk, Mass.

*** USNA-NET post by: MELLO Charles 02 MELLO Mary <cmello5523@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA20999
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:15:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: Navymom02@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 01:15:16 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Interesting Tidbit
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Here is an interesting tidbit from today on the yard.  Seems Keaneu Reeves 
and several dozen very large "actor" football players were rehearsing on the 
yard today, for a film they are shooting at PSI Net stadium.  Apparently they 
are filming during half-time at PSI for the full stadium effect, but needed 
rehearsal time elsewhere. Many of the Mids got to converse with them.   
Always something interesting happening!!!!   Hope to see lots of you next 
weekend at the NJ Tailgate!  Stop by and say hi!
Go Navy,
Mary Cannici, NJ
Rich,02,22nd

*** USNA-NET post by: CANNICI Richard J. 02-22 CANNICI Richard and Mary <Navymom02@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA26759
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:46:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sdalziel@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:46:33 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Three Cheers for 2001 !
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Good Morning All....

As a parent of a 2nd class this year...this has been a big week for all of 
us.  With the beginning of class on Wed our young men & women made a 
committment to the USNA to complete the next two years + five.  
Congratulations 2001 classmates & parents!  We're in it for the long haul 
now...and what a ride it is!!!!

I understand the 2nd class were invited to join the Admiral for a formal 
dinner on Wednesday evening.....and after the first home football game they 
will celebrate together at their "2 for 7" tailgater!  HOORAY 2001!!!  GOOD 
JOB!!  GO NAVY!!!

Congratulations !!!

Sue & Ken Dalziel
Scott 01/26th
Nashville

*** USNA-NET post by: DALZIEL Scott 01 DALZIEL Ken and Sue <Sdalziel@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA26918
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:59:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: BoaVida99@cs.com
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:59:00 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Ivy articles.
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

When our son, Ethan, was accepted at the Academy I told a woman I worked with 
that he was going to the Naval Academy.  Her reply, deadpan, was "Oh? Which 
one?"....Enough said...

Michele Haines
Ethan '01/08

*** USNA-NET post by: HAINES Ethan 01-8 HAINES Michele <BoaVida99@cs.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA27042
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:05:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: STereshko@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:04:14 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Ivy articles.
To: fosterj@vcss.k12.ca.us, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Any chance someone could enlghten us as to where this article was published?  
We've read all the emails and also seen request for the same info, but not 
the answer.  Please advise.
thanks.

*** USNA-NET post by: TERESHKO AJ 00-2 Daniel 02-14 TERESHKO Sue and Jim <STereshko@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA27175
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:13:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dooby1424@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:13:54 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Distinguished Graduates
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

In the past week I have heard many people asking about the Distinguished 
Graduates from USNA.  I found the following list on www.navysports.com

* 1 President of the United States
* 18 members of Congress
* 4 state governors
* 4 Secretaries of the Navy
* 1 Secretary of the Air Force
* 3 Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
* 2 Vice Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
* 25 Chiefs of Naval Operations
* 8 Commandants of the Marine Corps
* 73 Medal of Honor winners
* 1 Nobel Prize winner
* 50 astronauts
* 33 Rhodes Scholars
* 10 Marshall Scholars

of course this list does not include those who have made it big in sports, 
are owners of large companies, have developed (or invented), etc.

Let's Go USNA!
Judy Steffen (Tempe, AZ)

*** USNA-NET post by: STEFFEN James 01-28 and Elizabeth 02-13 STEFFEN Judy <dooby1424@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA00769
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:40:08 -0500 (CDT)
To: Jhb317@aol.com
Cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:27:52 -0700
Subject: usna-net: Youngsters on Friday Night
References: <f7ea3ceb.24f893bd@aol.com>
X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-11
From: Joyce e Howland <jeh913@juno.com>

According to my youngster, if they have relatives from out of town they
need to put up a chit several days in advance and they can go out for
dinner on Friday night.

Joyce


Dr. Joyce E. Howland
3472 Alder Place
Chino Hills, CA 91709-2005
909-393-0968
jeh913@juno.com

___________________________________________________________________
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Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

*** USNA-NET post by: HOWLAND Joyce 02 FERNANDES Von Patrick <jeh913@juno.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA01994
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:22:33 -0500 (CDT)
X-Originating-IP: [198.211.16.33]
From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" <civies03@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Tx for Navy vs. Georgia Tech.
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:22:33 EDT

To Navy Fans,
Does anyone know the likelihood of being able to buy tix the day of the game 
next weekend?
I have been having trouble getting to the 800 number.

Be Loud! Be Proud! Go Navy!
Have A Great Navy Day!
Anne & Dennis Kolb
Matt 03 7th Co.
Long Island, NY, USA

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

*** USNA-NET post by: KOLB Matthew V 03-7 KOLB Anne and Dennis <Civies03@hotmail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA07702
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:27:34 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:03:55 -0400
From: Richard Santillo <richbev@bellsouth.net>
To: Navy Net Listserver <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Tailgating at home games

This will be our first visit to Navy stadium for a home game and our
Parents Club is planning to set up a tailgate in the parking lot.   I'd
love some suggestions on the wheres, whys, and hows of food to bring for
the tailgate.  Almost all of us from Ga. will fly into town so
preparation would be a problem.  Suggestions?

The 2 messages about going to games at Navy stadium have been really
helpful.  Thanks to Cathy and Sandi for those posts!

Bev Santillo (Atlanta)
Doug 01/19 (tennis)


*** USNA-NET post by: SANTILLO Douglas 01-19 SANTILLO Richard and Beverly <richbev@bellsouth.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA07808
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:32:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Norton Smiley" <Norton.Smiley@sagemaker.com>
To: "usna net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Cc: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" <civies03@hotmail.com>
References: <19990828172233.79710.qmail@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Tx for Navy vs. Georgia Tech.
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:31:27 -0400
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Be persistent; it took me about 20 times until I got through. I finally got
through earlier in the morning, like right after they open, 9 or 10, but I
did get through.

Norton Smiley
Devin, '00/22nd
Westport, CT
----- Original Message -----
From: Anne&Dennis Kolb <civies03@hotmail.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 1:22 PM
Subject: usna-net: Tx for Navy vs. Georgia Tech.


> To Navy Fans,
> Does anyone know the likelihood of being able to buy tix the day of the
game
> next weekend?
> I have been having trouble getting to the 800 number.
>
> Be Loud! Be Proud! Go Navy!
> Have A Great Navy Day!
> Anne & Dennis Kolb
> Matt 03 7th Co.
> Long Island, NY, USA
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
> *** USNA-NET post by: KOLB Matthew V 03-7 KOLB Anne and Dennis
<Civies03@hotmail.com>
>
> Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
> Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
>
>
>
>


*** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton <Norton.Smiley@sagemaker.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA10820
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:34:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:33:54 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Ivy articles.  REPLY
To: ACTIONCHEM@aol.com, joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us, USNA-NET@navy-usna.org

Ofensive, and socialistic.  Thank you, Mike, for nipping this in the bud.

Amy Soule

*** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy <amysoule@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA11466
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:02:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Walter R Slabaugh" <slabaugh@cyberhighway.net>
To: "USNA" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: good news
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:02:13 -0600
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Just received phone call from my Plebe.  He sounded GOOD! He was with =
his sponsor family.  Monday is his birthday so they had prepared his =
"birthday cake" pumpkin pie and "real" whipped cream.
He said he was tired, had been aboard ship part of the day.  He also =
stated one kind of pressure had let up but another kind had taken its =
place, academics.  That he can handle he informed me.  He seemed quite =
contented, happy with room mates and felt all was going well.
I have been receiving and sending short e-mails every day along with =
daily letters.  I asked if that was too much.  His reply was "NO, I love =
all the letters and e-mail".  Brother and friends are also supplying him =
with reading material. Keep those letters USNA bound.
I asked if he loved it there yet.  His reply was "love no, liking it, =
yes".
I think we are on a roll.
One happy mom
Elaine Slabaugh


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I think we are on a roll.</FONT></DIV>
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*** USNA-NET post by: PADGETT Jonathan D 03 SLABAUGH Walt and Elaine <slabaugh@cyberhighway.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA12488
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:20:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <b39468f4.24f995ac@aol.com>
Subject: usna-net: Rrwritten RULES are posted.
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:18:26 -0400
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To all...

The rewritten Rules of Operation are now posted on our web site at
www.navy-usna.org.  Please do not post new messages until you read and
understand them all.

The actual rules have not changed.  They were rewritten to make them easier
to understand and to be better organized.

There are 10 Basic Rules instead of 25 as before and these have been worded
for easier reading.

If I left anything out, tell me.  If you have questions or comments about
any of this, please send them to me, NOT the Lists.  All comments will be
responded to directly, off Net.  Please, this is not a matter for discussion
on our Listservers.

I sincerely hope that this will make USNA-Net a happier and more congenial
place to visit and share support for our Midshipmen between friends and
family.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org

PS.  There better be a whole lot of visitor hits on the website's hit
counter in the next day or so.  After all, how can you all read the Rules,
if you don't visit the site?           :>)   ;>)   :>)


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA20481
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 21:16:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: NavyWest@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:16:30 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: good news
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Remember the saying that alot of the mids say,"you don't want to be there, 
just from there"....also they can't explain it,but "it's just where they 
belong".....
Pat West,00 19

*** USNA-NET post by: WEST Amy K 00 WEST Jack and Pat <NavyWest@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25154
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 21:53:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: NavyWest@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:53:21 EDT
Subject: usna-net: tailgates
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

In response to the tailgate questions.We will be having our Parents Club 
Tailgate on Oct.23rd and our club rents grills,tables,tableclothes,chairs and 
tent which is great.Everybody brings plenty of food and drinks for themselves 
and remembering that your mid may bring friends so bring plenty to 
share.Giant Foods off Riva Rd has a great deli dept with alot to choose from. 
I ordered a hero on Friday when I arrived and picked it up on the way to the 
game on Sat.The mids loved it.There is a Sams Club and you can get whatever 
you want for your mid for later and also for the tailgate.Thats also worked 
out well.
Remember not to be too disappointed if your plebe wants to get out of there 
after the game and just go back to the hotel to rest.Its a little more 
relaxing back at the hotel room,out of his uniform and away from all the 
upperclass and officers.Your mid will eat and hang out during halftime and 
even maybe a little after but let them decide what they want to do..
Also remember to watch them march informally in at the gate before the game  
and some people hand candy to them.I did say its a relaxed march in,can't 
hand them candy any other time.Have those cameras ready.You'll be really 
close to take some good ones. .
Have fun,Pat West,00,19

*** USNA-NET post by: WEST Amy K 00 WEST Jack and Pat <NavyWest@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25198
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 21:54:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: DODIEQT@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:54:14 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Something Cute
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org


    Today we made a quick trip (4 hours) to Annapolis to pick up our Plebe, 
grab a bite to eat and catch a movie. 
    When we drove back to the yard, the Marine at the gate stopped us. Of 
course we wondered want could possibly be wrong???  With a straight face, he 
stated "there was a no-return policy on Mids."  We would have to keep him!  
At that moment, he cracked a smile as we did too. 
    Needless to say our visit to the yard was brief, since our son had 
previous plans to have dinner with his sponsor family and sponsor brothers. 
    This was a great day!!!

    Doreen B 03, 7

*** USNA-NET post by: BARNETT Robert C 03-D BARNETT Doreen and Lavonne <DODIEQT@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA15679
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 06:34:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:34:49 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: Tx for Navy vs. Georgia Tech.
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

There are almost always tickets available game day at the booths on the blue 
or gold side of the stadium...if nothing else, bring a blanket and sit on the 
end zone grass (actually, that's really fun and a great view!)  They actually 
have a ticket that is just for that area......there are also end zone stands 
which usually have seats available....) So the basic thing is:
Don't panic if you don't have a  ticket, I'd say you have a better than 
excellent chance on game day...
Dindy Liebert
Peter
00/25

*** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter <LIEBERTCO@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA21298
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:11:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Diane Brown" <dlb1153@email.msn.com>
To: "USNA-NET" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: VIsit to the Yard
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:13:46 -0600
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Greetings:

We just returned last night from a rather hectic trip to the east coast.  We
took my second son to college in upstate New York and then spent Friday
night and yesterday with my Mid.  It was more economical for us to fly to
Baltimore and then drive to New York.

Thought I would pass along a couple of observations --

--  On Friday night we met up with Nate about 8:00 and took him to
dinner--the youngsters need a "chit" to leave on Friday evenings.  The town
was actually rather tame compared to other times we have visited.  I still
believe a better time to visit when there isn't something "special"
organized.  Just seems to be a much more relaxed visit.

-- Yesterday we met up at 10:15--apparently that is when liberty starts.
Whilst we were waiting for my son we watched as a wedding was about to take
place, but my son wouldn't let me stay to watch it--sometimes boys just
don't get it!!! It was wonderful to see all the mids headed out for the day.
Some were with family members but the majority were not, but with their
peers.  We went to the mall for  a fan and a cell phone (more on that
later).  There were a lot of mids there just walking around, etc.  They all
looked wonderful--don't worry parents.   After the mall we went back to town
and walked around, had ice cream and headed back.  We had an afternoon
flight.

-- Cell phones--please contact me personally and I will give you information
on what I thought was the best deal.  It will be nice to have some other
means to contact my son in the event of an emergency but still am letting
him use his discretion as to when it is convenient to talk.

-- A sidebar about email--I email my sons everyday--my mid would reply about
once a month and the other son would reply everyday.  It didn't mean that my
messages meant more to the one that replied more frequently, just that that
is their personalities.  I know that my mid appreciated the messages, but
just isn't that type of a communicator.

--  In conclusion--the mids all looked wonderful!!

Diane Brown




*** USNA-NET post by: BASTAR Nathan 02 BROWN Diane <dlb1153@email.msn.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA10300
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:38:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: Iceman7552@aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:38:26 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Hometown Publicity
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org


  Friday Afternoon of PPW  there was suppose to be a signup at the Gazebo for 
  Hometown Publicity ( Local Newspaper articles ) of our Mids completion of 
Plebe        Summer. In all the excitement of seeing my son and  talking 
about his experiences, we failed to go there and sign up .

  Did anyone do this ?  Does anyone know who I can contact and still do this ?
  Or at least get the verbage to put in the local paper !

  Tom Brewer
  Jacob  03 / 07
  Crew  

*** USNA-NET post by: BREWER Jacob T 03-D BREWER Tom <Iceman7552@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA10547
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:52:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: "gandy" <hwgandy@localaccess.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Hometown Publicity
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:58:01 -0500
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Hello to Tom and any others, let me tell you what we did because in 98 we
also did the SAME THING... we forgot  to sign up in all the excitement!
After we got home, we took one of the pictures from IDAY (the one where his
dad, Commander USNR was swearing him in in the private ceremony) and one
from parents weekend and our newspaper did an article on him with the
picture.  They used the one with dad and son but it told the story.  They
were very nice to do that.  Your hometown paper would probably be glad to do
the same thing.  You will be able to give them all of  the info they would
need to do a nice article  -- how long his obligation will be, what all he
did during plebe summer, what he plans to major in,  etc.....Go for it!
P.S.  Just make sure that they get it right that they are NAVY midshipmen
and not cadets --ours made that mistake and boy did our MID have something
to say about that!



*** USNA-NET post by: GANDY Jonathan Wayne 02-30 GANDY Wayne and Jackie <hwgandy@localaccess.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA11188
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:32:10 -0500 (CDT)
X-Originating-IP: [134.121.155.72]
From: "Kay McGee" <kamcg@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Hometown Publicity
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:32:16 PDT

Tom and all:

Our Parents' Club officers were told last year that local papers could not 
print stories about our mids unless the mids had signed release forms with 
the Public Affairs Office.  We were asked to encourage our mids to go fill 
out whatever was needed so if they received some sort of recognition, the 
local paper could do the story.  Something to check on, I guess.

Kay McGee  Wa

GO NAVY!



______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

*** USNA-NET post by: MCGEE Michael 01-13 MCGEE Kay <kamcg@hotmail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA11759
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:54:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: Campy301@aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:54:38 EDT
Subject: usna-net: March on
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi.  Seems I have some conflicting info.  Someone posted that the march on 
for the home games is 11:45.  From our past experience it seemed like they 
marched on much earlier than that.  Does any one know for sure what time the 
Mids leave the yard to march to the stadium?  How long does the march take, 
etc?  Our parents club (GA) is having an imformal tailgater and we want to 
pass along the correct info.
Thanks,
KC
Atlanta, GA
Joe '02

*** USNA-NET post by: CAMPBELL Joseph Lee 02-14 CAMPBELL Ron <campy301@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA17964
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:53:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: New Links Wanted...
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:53:26 -0400
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To all...

In an effort to make our web site even more useful to all of the members,
I'm adding a new feature tonight.

An Index of Member Home Pages.  It will showcase Members' Personal Pages to
the rest of USNA-Net members.  If you have your own "Personal" web site and
you would like me to add a link from our site to your site, send the URL to
me.

A few conditions...

1.)    The site must be a Personal Home Page, not your business's page.
2.)    This must be YOUR site where you control it and are solely
responsible for its content.
3.)    No Commercial Content except the mandatory ads forced on you by your
ISP Host.
4.)    It must be appropriate for viewing by all our members and their
families.

There's a lot of empty space on the page right now.  We'd love to put up
dozens of links in the next few days.  Show off your Personal Page to those
in our group.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org







*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike <mzets@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA23349
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:21:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: KaroLuvL@aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:20:52 EDT
Subject: usna-net: THANKSGIVING TRAVEL
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Greetings,

Does anyone know the  mids vacation release for Thanksgiving?  Are they 
released after their last regular class or is the day shortened?  The flights 
are going to fill up fast and I am getting anxious.  Any suggestions.  I 
noticed while checking the internet that the price difference from Parent's 
Weekend has just about doubled.  WOW!                            Thank 
you.....Carolyn Lavelle, Stuart FL

*** USNA-NET post by: LAVELLE Joseph D 03 LAVELLE Carolyn and Dennis <KaroLuvL@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA28212
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:06:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: "GARY GADWA" <ggadwa@ruralnetwork.net>
To: "usna-net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Thinking Ahead
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:06:00 -0600
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A little over a  week into the Youngster Year for our daughter and We're
already looking ahead to Christmas Break.

Does anyone happen to know the start and end dates for the Academy Christmas
break. I know Christmas is the last thing on the mind of our Daughter Jodie
who really started hitting the books!!! With all the Engineering and Physics
classes not to mention the Cross Country Running that is her obsession!!!

But I'd like to start looking at booking flights or at least checking
prices.....

Seems the nine day break our Mid had at home this summer was way to short.
Seems she prefers NTT, Summer School and YP Cruise over leave?!?!?!?!
Imagine that....

Gary and Laurii Gadwa
Stanley, IDAHO

Jodie 3/C 02-18

Go Navy


*** USNA-NET post by: GAWDA Jodie 02 GADWA Gary&Laurii <ggadwa@ruralnetwork.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA13802
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:18:04 -0500 (CDT)
X-Originating-IP: [4.3.224.71]
From: "George Dodge" <dodgeg@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Thinking Ahead
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 05:18:09 EDT

Jodie,

The USNA calendar is published at 
http://www.nadn.navy.mil/AcDean/Calendars/1999-00.html

Christmas leave is listed on the calendar.

GO NAVY - BEAT ARMY

George Dodge
Damien '03/6
Manassas, VA


>From: "GARY GADWA" <ggadwa@ruralnetwork.net>
>Reply-To: "GARY GADWA" <ggadwa@ruralnetwork.net>
>To: "usna-net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
>Subject: usna-net: Thinking Ahead
>Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:06:00 -0600
>
>A little over a  week into the Youngster Year for our daughter and We're
>already looking ahead to Christmas Break.
>
>Does anyone happen to know the start and end dates for the Academy 
>Christmas
>break. I know Christmas is the last thing on the mind of our Daughter Jodie
>who really started hitting the books!!! With all the Engineering and 
>Physics
>classes not to mention the Cross Country Running that is her obsession!!!
>
>But I'd like to start looking at booking flights or at least checking
>prices.....
>
>Seems the nine day break our Mid had at home this summer was way to short.
>Seems she prefers NTT, Summer School and YP Cruise over leave?!?!?!?!
>Imagine that....
>
>Gary and Laurii Gadwa
>Stanley, IDAHO
>
>Jodie 3/C 02-18
>
>Go Navy
>
>
>*** USNA-NET post by: GAWDA Jodie 02 GADWA Gary&Laurii 
><ggadwa@ruralnetwork.net>
>
>Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
>Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
>
>

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

*** USNA-NET post by: DODGE Damien A 03-C DODGE George and Barbara <dodgeg@hotmail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA26220
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:17:41 -0500 (CDT)
X-Sender: mbt2@mail.psu.edu
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:17:59 -0400
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: Mary Beth Tsikalas <mbt2@psu.edu>
Subject: usna-net: online photo

The photo from last weeks "Washington Times" was chosen as the editors'
favorite staff photo of the week.  Therefore, it is available for viewing
at the following site: 

http://www.washtimes.com/gallery/gallery.html

Mary Beth

*** USNA-NET post by: TSIKALAS Emanuel M 03-21 Mike and Mary Beth <mbt2@psu.edu>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA29819
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:41:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Robbleemom@aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:41:05 EDT
Subject: usna-net: long distance phone service
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I apologize if this had been written about in the past but.....I just 
received a call for Quest long distance service.  The deal is an 800 # with 
.10 a minute, long distance at .9 a minute Mon thru Fri anytime and .5 on 
weekends with a monthly charge of $4.95.  Anybody got a better deal or should 
I go for this one.
Thanks
Janie
Jason02/26

*** USNA-NET post by: ROBBLEE Jason P 02-26 ROBBLEE Janie <Robbleemom@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA04021
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:09:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: TMiller091@aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:09:10 EDT
Subject: usna-net: long distance phone service
To: Robbleemom@aol.com, usna-plebe@navy-usna.org, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Is this an 800 number at you home phone I assume ?

I have a Plebe and my concern is that he makes lots of other calls as well, 
and the 800 # has to be at MY location, obviously NOT for his outgoing calls. 
I have been sending him prepaid calling cards until I figure out how to go 
with the calls.

Does anyone know of a cheap prepaid calling card ? I haven't shopped around, 
but it seems they run about $0.27.minute.

Also, next year, I think a cell phone has lots of advantages. Since his 
birthday is on Herndon, I thinkI know of a perfect birthday present !! Now, 
I'll need to shop around for the best plan to put him on with a local ( 
Annapolis) service. Any input on this ??

Thanks, 
Tom Miller, Nevada
 

*** USNA-NET post by: MILLER Matthew C 03-8 MILLER Thomas <TMiller091@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA04404
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:19:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: HillVale@aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:19:44 EDT
Subject: usna-net: mci long distance
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

MCI has $.05/min every evening after 1700 and $.05/minute all weekend long 
with a calling card for the same rates  with no connection fee.  This is for 
out of state only; in state is $.10/min for us the caller,  but $.05 for the 
person with the calling card at the times previously listed here.  This 
service is $4.95/month.  Go NAVY!!!

Debby McCandless
Winter Park, Fl. 
Richard 03/D&B soprano

*** USNA-NET post by: MCCANDLESS Richard Thomas 02-11 MCCANDLESS Rich and Debby <HillVale@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA14817
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:14:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: Socalday@aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:14:58 EDT
Subject: Re: usna-net: long distance phone service
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Janie, I researched this for 2 wks last month. The best deal is 
airtelnet.com. go to their web site and print out the info to go over in your 
spare time. I just faxed in my application last Friday and I can't wait. I 
have switched my long distance carrier and 800# to airtelnet.com. No hidden 
charges or fees. 7.9cents a minute on all out of state and 800# calls. 4.9 
cents within Calif. these rates are guaranteed for 2 yrs. no teaser rates. 
Rates are 24hrs, 7 days a week.
    Thankyou to all those parents who shared this information with me. 
Celeste Day
Fullerton, CA
Lance-00 1st
Trevor-02 14th

*** USNA-NET post by: DAY Trevor 02 Lance 00 DAY Jim and Celeste <Socalday@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA20463
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:10:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Christian Schmidt" <schmidtc@penn.com>
To: <HillVale@aol.com>, <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: mci long distance
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:14:38 -0400
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I have this card, it works beautiful, but please be aware that the $0.05 are
only to your home phone number. All other phone calls are 50 cents.
-----Original Message-----
From: HillVale@aol.com <HillVale@aol.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 12:27 PM
Subject: usna-net: mci long distance


>MCI has $.05/min every evening after 1700 and $.05/minute all weekend long
>with a calling card for the same rates  with no connection fee.  This is
for
>out of state only; in state is $.10/min for us the caller,  but $.05 for
the
>person with the calling card at the times previously listed here.  This
>service is $4.95/month.  Go NAVY!!!
>
>Debby McCandless
>Winter Park, Fl.
>Richard 03/D&B soprano
>
>*** USNA-NET post by: MCCANDLESS Richard Thomas 02-11 MCCANDLESS Rich and
Debby <HillVale@aol.com>
>
>Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe.
>
>Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
>
>
>


*** USNA-NET post by: SCHMIDT Nathan R. 02-28 SCHMIDT Christian O.A. <schmidtc@penn.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA22777
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:56:27 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:54:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Oliver <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
X-Sender: joliver@bookworm
To: ACTIONCHEM@aol.com
cc: USNA-NET@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Ivy articles.  REPLY  AGAIN
In-Reply-To: <6b785a59.24f841c5@aol.com>


	My apologies to all who were offended.  That was not my purpose in
what I wrote. Please forgive my mistake.

				peace and hugs......Jo Oliver


*** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA14340
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:48:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: KARNGU@aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:47:06 EDT
Subject: usna-net: (no subject)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Thank goodness our Mids are intelligent enough to recognize rules and 
regulations

*** USNA-NET post by: MANTZ Brock A. 02-19 MANTZ Roger C. <KARNGU@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA17218
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:43:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: "GARY GADWA" <ggadwa@ruralnetwork.net>
To: "USNA-Net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Telephone E-mails
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:48:35 -0600
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Proud Parents of  U.S.N.A. midshipmen,
    All this talk of Telephone rates and methods has prompted me to
demonstrate our dedication to our daughter Jodie 3/C 18th Co. 02......

We as many do, have an 800 number for our Mid, but we went one step further
to essentially promote our pride, we now have phone number--- 2002. If
anyone mentions to us "my you have a unique phone number" Our reply is "Yep
that's when our daughter graduates from the U.S. Naval Academy"!

GO NAVY BEAT ARMY

Gary / Laurii Gadwa
Stanley, IDAHO
Jodie 18th Co. 02'


*** USNA-NET post by: GAWDA Jodie 02 GADWA Gary&Laurii <ggadwa@ruralnetwork.net>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA17649
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:07:53 -0500 (CDT)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:07:36 -0700
Subject: usna-net: Christmas Leave
References: <006701bef294$97710280$c99ebed8@ggadwa>
X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-9
From: Joyce e Howland <jeh913@juno.com>

My youngster says that Christmas leave starts after finals (which end on
Dec. 21) and they are due back on January 5, 2000.

Joyce

Dr. Joyce E. Howland
3472 Alder Place
Chino Hills, CA 91709-2005
909-393-0968
jeh913@juno.com

___________________________________________________________________
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Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

*** USNA-NET post by: HOWLAND Joyce 02 FERNANDES Von Patrick <jeh913@juno.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA20004
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:25:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Change to Website...
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:25:53 -0400
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To All...

First,  Mike has "fixed" the website so that those of you who had trouble
seeing the entire list of menu items on the left side of the page will have
no more problems.  Regardless of how your resolution or your font size is
set, you will see every item in the menu and can utilize the clickable
links.

Second, and more important.

As Mrs. "Net Nazi" I get to be the "good cop" in this "good cop/bad cop"
relationship.  Mike and I have been talking about this for the past day and
a half we agree that we all need to re-examine our focus.  I understand and
agree with his stance on the posts which include mention of money or pseudo
endorsements.  Virtually all of the information is out there, either in our
Archives or on the Net for easy discovery with the simplest of search
engines.  Our Lists really are NOT, nor were they ever intended to be,
Information Central.

But, and I think I speak for the majority of our members here, I see our
Lists (especially USNA-Plebe) as a lot more friendly than just dates and
times.  I see us as a Navy family.  We SHOULD be able to share.  Mike and I
both feel a kinship with every member of our Lists and we are as concerned
and interested in THEIR Mids as we are in our own.  This is what was
envisioned when this Listserver was started.  We are not Joe Friday - we
need more than "Just the facts".

So let's get on with what we are here for - to share support, advice and
experience (and experiences).  Just keep it relevant to USNA and Navy
parenting.

Sandi



*** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) <jsandi@mail.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA20792
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:59:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: RAmes50695@aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:58:34 EDT
Subject: usna-net: NAVY GA TECH GAME TICKETS
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I have two tickets we are going to be unable to use. 
                                                                  UPPER BLUE
                                                                         GATE 
 C
                                                        SEC 106
                                                    ROW 7
                                                     SEATS 9 & 10
They are 22.00 tickets.  I will gladly get them to you by game date if you 
would like them.  
GO NAVY BEAT GA TECH!!!!!!!!

Judy Ames
Erin Borozny 03/17

*** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-I AMES Dick and Judy <rames50695@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA12913
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:31:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: EFi3346410@aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:31:49 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Academy Women's Soccer Tourney
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

For those of you coming to St. Louis for the Women's Tourney, the games are 
held in Fenton (Southwest St. Louis County),  I work in Fenton which is a 
growing community with hotels and restaurants right there.  I will be glad to 
give you information on what is right there, or in area in general.  Email me 
directly and let me know what you need, economy, luxury, whatever.   There 
are lots of fun things in St. Louis to keep you busy between Friday's and 
Sunday's games.  We have a wonderful zoo with a great enterence fee - nothing 
(actually I will pay your way with my tax bill) along with a great science 
center (same cost) that is near the zoo.  
The local parent's club will have members in attendence at the games (I 
already have a replacement at the hospital for Friday morning) and we will 
wear the red/white/blue ribbons for you to know us.  

Hope we can have a turnout like last year,  what a good time it was.

Lynn Fisher   Jamie 02/25
St. Louis

*** USNA-NET post by: FISHER Jamie K. 02-25 FISHER Lynn <EFi3346410@aol.com>




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA16251
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:15:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: "gandy" <hwgandy@localaccess.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Herndon - Class of 2002
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:21:03 -0500
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This is from  my son about Herndon for 2002!   Look closely, your 3rs =
class might be there--I found mine!
http://www.mediacen.navy.mil/pubs/allhands/aug99/pg28.htm

Jackie "let me tell you about my mid"  Gandy
'02-30 co. "Dirty Thirty"  D & B contra bass
Guntersville, Alabama=20
Go NAVY! Beat Army!



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA16360
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:20:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: NevesPK@aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:20:16 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Sprint Football
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org, usna-plebe@navy-usna.org

Do any of you go to the Navy Sprint Football games or plan to go if you are 
Plebe parents...my son plays on that team (he tried out for the "BIG" team 
but evidently doesn't weigh enough) - I rarely see any information other than 
on the Navy Athletics webpage about their games.  Unfortunately, I live in 
Oregon so it is not possible for me to see these games -last year I visited 
in October and watched a game on Rip Miler Field..........it was a lot of 
fun.  Would love to hear from any of you who happen to see a game.  
Go Navy!
Pamela 
Doug 02/22
Oregon

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA21096
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:08:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: TRMan221@aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:08:28 EDT
Subject: usna-net: Navy-Georgia Tech Kickoff
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Does anyone know the time the Georgia Tech game starts?  
Thanks,
Janet Manion
Travis 03-17co

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