~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA10169 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 06:26:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "USNANET" Subject: usna-net: Glee Club Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 06:27:02 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 According to my son's Glee Club Schedule: 40 Glee Club Men went to Americus, Georgia on Thursday, Sept 30 for Carter's birthday Gala. I am not aware of how long they are staying, but I do know it is mostly Firsties and Second Class members. Friday Oct. 8th begins the Glee Club Fall Tour to Georgia and South Carolina. They return Thursday, Oct 14th. As I gather details I will pass them along! Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA14301 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:41:46 -0500 (CDT) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:33:34 -0500 Subject: usna-net: 10/1 BWI-Annapolis X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-3,5-6,8-11 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: P S Schroeder I am either renting a car tonight (Fri, Oct 1) at about 6 pm to get from BWI to Annapolis, or taking a taxi. If anyone else is doing the same thing at the same approximate time, we could share. I have to go the other way tomorrow at 12:30pm, too, if that applies to anyone else. I am aware of the Blue Van, but car rental is less expensive for RT for one day. Penny Schroeder Jim 99/08 Mike 01/23 ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. *** USNA-NET post by: SCHROEDER Michael J 01-23 James A. 99 -8 SCHROEDER Penny ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA15418 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:46:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Andidr1@aol.com Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:46:54 EDT Subject: usna-net: Catholic Choir singing in Maryland To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Talked to my Mid and found out the Catholic Choir will be in Emmitsburg, Maryland this Sunday. They will be singing at the Basilica of the National Shrine of Saint Elizabeth Ann Seton. If directions are needed the number he gave is 301-447-6066. The plan is to leave after 900 Mass at the Yard, eat lunch in Emmitsburg, sing at approximately 1500 (3pm), go to a reception and return by 2000. Right now I am trying to talk his grandparents into a nice Sunday drive (about 3 hours from their house) since they have not seen each other since June 29. Hopefully some other Navy family will be able to join them for their concert. Go Navy! Andrea Darone Middletown DE Greg 03/Lima 21 *** USNA-NET post by: DARONE Gregory M 03-21 DARONE Dave and Andrea ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA16297 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:41:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Stokes, Randy" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: X-Country Meet Sat. Oct 2 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:41:47 -0400 Anyone in the NY-NJ-Conn. metro area may be interested to know and able to go cheer on the runners of our Men and Women's Cross Country teams in the Iona Invitational tomw, Sat. Oct 2 -- Van Cortland Park in the Bronx (North Bx., almost Westchester, off Rt 87 - Major Deegan exprsswy, just blocks from Yankee stadium --can you tell I'm a former NYkr?). The women run at 10:30; can't find time for men, whether it's before or after the women (sorry) - maybe another parent has heard from their mid. The weather is supposed to be beautiful, so go early, enjoy and blow a kiss to my mid as she runs by! Thx RUN NAVY RUN Randy Stokes Ft. Washington, MD proud mom, Amy 03/2 x-country, track *** USNA-NET post by: STOKES Amy Elizabeth 03-2 STOKES Randy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA18921 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:20:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:21:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: P S Schroeder cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: 10/1 BWI-Annapolis In-Reply-To: <19991001.073338.-4154157.13.pss@juno.com> I am so excited! I have the chance to be on the yard sunday. It has been over 2 years since John's commissioning. I will be staying at his sponsor's home. A word on sponsors: well a few, they are a valuable people to know. Most of them can solve any problem regarding anything that happens in the yard, when it will happen and how. I had no problems commissioning week as the sponsor,John VornDick, had it all on paper for us. It made things quite easy. He is beautiful person and deservise more recognition than I can give him in a short note. I will probably be making cookies this weekend for the mids that come to his home--he always loves a break in his routine of caring for over 20 mids at one time. I guess when you live alone you can do whatever you want. When I get this machine set up, in my new digs, I will tell you all about my weekend.............................WHAT A GREAT TREAT!!! peace and hugs...Jo Oliver John '97 Long Island until tomorrow and then Florida after monday. :-) Is anyone going to be in the yard this sunday after the 0900 mass? Would like to meet you if so. *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA18228 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:27:09 -0500 (CDT) Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal To: "USNA-Net" From: "Jo Anne Mitzen" Subject: usna-net: Loan Date: Fri, 01 Oct 99 20:27:45 PDT This is what is written in "Brief Points" by Ross Mackenzie about Second Class loans: "At the end of Second Class year,various financial institutes offer loans - called Career Starter Loans (widely known among midshipmen as Second Class Loans) - to rising First Classmen, with initial payments scheduled for shortly after graduation. Many midshipmen jump at these loans and buy cars. Others do other things with the money. A few turn the loans down. For the class of 1996, for example, five financial institutions offered loans ranging from $5000 to $15,000. The institutions disbursed the money in May 1995. Rates ranged from 5 percent to 2.5 percent; stipulated monthly paybacks ranged from $109 to $340. One lending institution required, as a condition of the loan, the purchase of $100,000 in life insurance at $4 per month; the others required every midshipman taking out a loan (a) to have a designated grade point average (2.0 or 2.5) , (b) to open a checking account with the institution, and (c) to have his or her entire paycheck deposited into that checking account. In all cases, midshipmen with loans who separate from the Academy must fully repay the loans or renegotiate them at current lending rates." And that's all I really know about this loan. I guess every year the stipulations, amounts, and rates change - & there is probably no guarantee that they will be offered in a given year. Joe heard about it from other Mids & then I looked it up in the book. I hope its not an infraction to e-mail a selection out of a published work. Jo Anne *** USNA-NET post by: MITZEN Joseph B 01-16 MITZEN Jo Anne and Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA26608 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:38:53 -0500 (CDT) Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal To: "USNA-Net" From: "Jo Anne Mitzen" Subject: usna-net: Siblings Date: Fri, 01 Oct 99 21:39:43 PDT Hello! Thank you to all who wrote about the younger siblings! It is very comforting to know that Mike isn't the only one! There is so much I could ramble on about with this but I'll spare you (for now!) I am anxiously waiting for an e-mail from Joe about the possibility of being on a 7-day restriction. He had a medical appt at lunchtime but wasn't taken in until 1315 so he missed 5th period class. He was told to plead not guilty & it will probably not be given to him. He got his first restriction at the end of August. After returning from cruise late one Friday afternoon in the beginning of summer, he checked his bag into a room at Bancroft so he wouldn't have to carry it around. The next morning he was going to Quantico. He met up with another member of '01 whose home is in Annapolis & was invited to stay the night there. Not needing anything from his bag, he didn't go back to Bancroft 'til the morning. Actually since he checked in he was bound by Friday liberty & should have returned at 2200 (I'm not sure of the time). Anyway, he didn't know anything about it until the week after reform when a note was posted on his door to report for discipline. Lesson learned! Make sure your Mid knows the rules for leave & liberty during summer blocks. If Joe wouldn't have checked in, it would have been okay to stay off the Yard that night. He said restriction wasn't too bad (mostly because it was only 7 days and he pulled duty that weekend also) - what he hated the most was the frequent musters and not being able to come home Labor Day weekend. Hope everyone has a great weekend! Go Navy! Jo Anne *** USNA-NET post by: MITZEN Joseph B 01-16 MITZEN Jo Anne and Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA08874 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:51:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 20:55:47 -0700 From: Jill Leverentz To: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: Navy Volleyball Beats Army Yes sports fans it's true. Navy's Women's Volleyball Team Beat Army at West Point tonight. They regained the N star from Army. The match went to 5 games with Navy winning the first game, Army taking the next two and Navy being victorius in the last two. Tomorrow they play Colgate. This is worth celebrating!!! *** USNA-NET post by: LEVERENTZ Jamie C 03-7 LEVERENTZ Jim and Jill ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA09205 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 23:08:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 00:08:36 -0400 From: Jack Riismandel Organization: @Home Network X-Accept-Language: en To: jjleverentz@earthlink.net CC: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: usna-net: Navy Volleyball Beats Army References: <37F58243.4BDE@earthlink.net> Congratualtions Navy Women Volleyball!!!! The Riismandels Jill Leverentz wrote: > > Yes sports fans it's true. Navy's Women's Volleyball Team Beat Army at > West Point tonight. They regained the N star from Army. The match went > to 5 games with Navy winning the first game, Army taking the next two > and Navy being victorius in the last two. Tomorrow they play Colgate. > > This is worth celebrating!!! > > *** USNA-NET post by: LEVERENTZ Jamie C 03-7 LEVERENTZ Jim and Jill > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: RIISMANDEL Kristen E 00-19 Michael B 03-25 RIISMANDEL Kathy and Jack ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA14773 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 00:25:29 -0500 (CDT) From: EFi3346410@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 01:26:08 EDT Subject: usna-net: Navy vs. Air Force 10/1 St. Louis To: usna-net@navy-usna.org As the cats tell me I am up past my bedtime, I wanted to pass on information about tonights game against Air Force. With a well fought game, AF pulled off one more goal in last few minutes leaving a loss with Navy. AF 2-1. The AF girls knew how to cleat, so Navy suffered a few injuries to girls whose parents had traveled in for games. Still it was world class playing. Sunday 9:00AM Navy plays Creighton. 11:00AM Army plays Air Force. (Army lost tonight). Now for the really fun part. We had the girls out for a snack and social hour. The food was great at the pub we chose. The company was stellar. Your daughters and sons (support staff) were delightful young people, and in spite of the gruelling schedule, managed to visit with folks. Of course the young men that were not there for us did watch and notice the girls. As did the young women in the place notice the nice looking fellows in Navy shirts. Sarah and Leslie's Moms, I talked with your daughters, they are doing fine, wished the you could have been here. Such beautiful young ladies, just a treat to talk to. Leslie hopes to make it to mall for a real haircut while here. Sat. AM they will do a special olympics soccer thing. Then some free time. Thanks so much for those that shared their young people with us this weekend, you don't know how much we need the mid fix too. Now if we can just figure some activity maybe in Utah or Nevada, the western folks would get this thrill too. Lynn Fisher Jamie 02/25 PS met some of the net members tonight too, there were red, white, and blue ribbons here! *** USNA-NET post by: FISHER Jamie K. 02-25 FISHER Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA13048 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 06:36:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 05:20:46 -0700 From: Art & Gerri Ball Organization: . To: usnanet list server Subject: usna-net: Prescreener for MiniBUDS Ok it is 6am St.Louis time and my computer keeps locking up. I am sitting here a nervous weck with the whole house still asleep and no one to talk to - so who do I call the listserver of course! I just heard from my son Arthur '01 he is doing the Prescreener for the MiniBUDS segment training to be given this summer. He wants to go SEAL. So this is really important to him. He called last night at about midnight. The first part was over then. They had done some PT'S and swam the river to Hospital Point or something to that effect. He was rambling on so fast I couldn't catch it all. They gave them an hour then to rest up for the next phase. He called just now and that was over .They swam till they were exhausted, ran with boats, did more PT'S and a whole bunch of other stuff., he sounded hoarse and tire- said it was brutual but that he did well and got "above average" scores. Now they gave them 45 minutes to shower and eat. As I sit here in my warm house and with my coffee in hand. I can't even imagine what these kids go thru to get to their goal. I just know that we all have an awesome group and young men and women out their. I am so proud of them all. I can hardly contain myself sometimes. I watched and support the Navy Women's Soccer team here in St.Louis - what a great group of women. They played so fantastic and they looked great. Just because they lost to Air Force does not mean they didn't play a great game. So be thinking of my son this day and keep your fingers cross. He is suppose to call again around noon to give me the final update. Anyone else out there have a son doing the Prescreener this weekend.??? GerriBall - Arthur 01 27th company St.Louis MO *** USNA-NET post by: BALL Arthur 01 BALL Gerri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA16853 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 07:33:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gene & Ruth" To: Subject: usna-net: We have one extra ticket for Air Force Game Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:34:09 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 hi sports fans, our youngest daughter will be attending a swim meet this Saturday, so she won't be using her ticket we have one seat available on about the 20 yard line visitors side write me directly if you need the ticket Gene Lt. Jeff USA 95 Jennifer 03/24 *** USNA-NET post by: LASTFOGEL Jennifer L 03-24 LASTFOGEL Ruth and Gene ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA16928 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 07:37:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gene & Ruth" To: Subject: usna-net: We have extra ticket for Air Force Game Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:37:29 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 hi sports fans, we have one additional ticket on about the 20 yard line,lower level, visitors side write me direct if you need this seat Gene Lt. Jeff USNA 95 Jennifer 03/24 *** USNA-NET post by: LASTFOGEL Jennifer L 03-24 LASTFOGEL Ruth and Gene ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA16974 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 07:37:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 08:41:57 -0400 From: greg chlan X-Accept-Language: en To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Halloween Recital FYI: Yesterday, tickets went on sale ($5.-each/less for mids?) through the ticket office for the Halloween Organ Recital to be held in the Chapel on Fri. night-Oct. 29th. 2 yrs. ago the organist ,Monte Maxwell, decided to change the format of this event a bit from it's traditional evening of organ music. In '97, the performance drew a few hundred folks both from the yard and town. By last yr., "word of mouth" had attracted approx. 3,000 people to the Chapel for the performance. Since the Chapel only holds 2,500, the doors had to be closed leaving approx. 500 people outside listening on a rainy night. This yr., they decided to do 2 performances (first at 6pm/2nd at 8:30pm) and sell tickets to each performance. Since most of the mids are on the yard on Fri. nights,this gives them something "a bit different" to attend. The townfolks also seem to come-from young to seniors-young at heart. Mr. Maxwell is fantastic on the organ! Selections from "Star Wars","Phantom of the Opera","Les Miserables",etc. are a part of the performance-along with special lighting effects/steam/make-up/solos by a few mids who have auditioned/etc. It has proven to be a "FUN" night the last couple yrs. We're looking forward to it again this year. Perhaps, for those mids looking for something to do on the 29th,with or without family/friends visiting-it would be something to mention to your mid. GO NAVY/BEAT WVA!!!!!!!! Joan Chlan *** USNA-NET post by: CHLAN Kevin A. 00-2 CHLAN Greg and Joan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA17938 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 09:03:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Moyra Evans" To: "USNA-Net" Subject: Re: usna-net: Prescreener for MiniBUDS Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 15:47:17 +0200 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Gerri I had a son who was going to do the pre-screening then he hurt his ankle (once again!) playing rugby and instead of doing the pre-screening, he spent Wednesday being operated on at a hospital in Annapolis and will now spend weeks on crutches again. It sounds as though your son was doing well when he contacted you. Did he enjoy the whole exercise? Moyra Evans South Africa H.V. Llewellyn Evans, 01, 24th company *** USNA-NET post by: EVANS Houston 01-24 EVANS Moyra ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA18416 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 09:27:10 -0500 (CDT) From: LiliaMayer@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 10:27:23 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Prescreener for MiniBUDS To: ballpart@primary.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org In a message dated 99-10-02 07:47:22 EDT, ballpart@primary.net writes: << I am sitting here a nervous weck with the whole house still asleep and no one to talk to - so who do I call the listserver of course! >> This is my first year as a mid parent, of a plebe, and it's gratifying to read that other parents turn to this network often and passionately. My two children at home are beginning to say, "Mom, you're always on the computer!", and I must confess that I check and read these letters daily, a new habit that helps me adapt to the challenge of knowing my son is doing something so different from that of his peers. I got together with two friends last week whose children attend civilian colleges, wonderful schools, but I couldn't help notice that their concerns and mine did not overlap. They discussed the plus and minuses of joining sororities, the differences between dorms (the geeks didn't mind small closets), and the challenge of knowing that 18 year old students would now decide when to study, when to party, and everything in between. Your concerns and mine are so different. A son swims to near exhaustion, then rests briefly before a grueling hike in heavy boots. He too has tough classes, but the professional training sets him apart from his civilian counterparts. I'm finding that I have more in common with you folks, fellow mid parents, than with a number of my old friends. You understand why this network draws my attention like a magnet, and how this rapport helps to put my new passion in perspective. I enjoy reading about your mids because it offsets missing mine. There is also the awareness that they, Navy, and us support one another to sustain a degree of service unlike any civilian undertaking. The training is tough because it prepares mids to make the ultimate sacrifice, should that be demanded of them. And we, parents, who love our children so much, not only accept that reality, but endorse it. I know wonderful people who cannot understand how I could do such a thing. A young boy told me not long ago, "My mom doesn't understand how you would let your son go to war; she'd send me to Canada." I did not debate with him because I did not wish to pit him against his mother. But it made me sad that there are many who do not understand, much less appreciate, the sacrificial choices our sons and daughters make in taking their oaths of office. But all of you out there do. We share that awareness from which our pride, and even greater love, burst forth. I am very, very grateful for this gift ( Thank you Mike and Sandi!!) -- the opportunity to share our stories with one another. Lilia Mayer Richmond, VA Justin 03/07 *** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA18493 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 09:29:48 -0500 (CDT) From: CMears4@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 10:30:29 EDT Subject: usna-net: Women't Softball team To: usna-net@navy-usna.org If anyone needs a "Mid-Fix", the USNA Women's Fastpitch Softball team is playing at St. Mary's College in PA today. Wish I knew the time that they played, but you can be sure it is most of the afternoon as they always play double headers. However, if anyone is in the area, you may want to get a "Mollie sighting" along with your "Mid-Fix"!l! GO NAVY Caryn Mears, WA Mollie Mears, 03-21 *** USNA-NET post by: MEARS Mollie Ann 03 MEARS Caryn L. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA20491 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 10:56:37 -0500 (CDT) From: pss@juno.com To: LiliaMayer@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 10:53:21 -0500 Subject: Re: usna-net: Prescreener for MiniBUDS X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,12-13,18-116 X-Juno-Att: 0 Dear Lilia, What delightful insight and ability to share feelings! I have been involved with USNA since 1995, and you are completely right about old friends not quite understanding the mission of this institution, and the drive and sacrifice required to get that commission. You plebe parents are so fortuntate to have the benefit of Mike and Sandi's ideas and hard work to help us all communicate, commiserate, and also to compliment each other. ..from the beginning. I admit to floundering at sea back then, even though we did have a supportive parent association. It's so much more efficient this way--having a lot of questions answered daily, possibly before you even knew you had a question! Our sons have been blessed with success at the Academy, but it wasn't without blood, sweat and tears along the way---theirs and ours. We are so proud of them, and of all your offspring as well. Keep up your encouragement, sympathy (but not too much), letters, care packages, etc., and good luck to all of you. Penny Schroeder MN Jim 99/08 Mike 01/23 On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 10:27:23 EDT LiliaMayer@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 99-10-02 07:47:22 EDT, ballpart@primary.net >writes: > ><< I am > sitting here a nervous weck with the whole house still asleep and no >one > to talk to - so who do I call the listserver of course! >> > >This is my first year as a mid parent, of a plebe, and it's gratifying >to >read that other parents turn to this network often and passionately. >My two >children at home are beginning to say, "Mom, you're always on the >computer!", >and I must confess that I check and read these letters daily, a new >habit >that helps me adapt to the challenge of knowing my son is doing >something so >different from that of his peers. > >I got together with two friends last week whose children attend >civilian >colleges, wonderful schools, but I couldn't help notice that their >concerns >and mine did not overlap. They discussed the plus and minuses of >joining >sororities, the differences between dorms (the geeks didn't mind small > >closets), and the challenge of knowing that 18 year old students would >now >decide when to study, when to party, and everything in between. > >Your concerns and mine are so different. A son swims to near >exhaustion, >then rests briefly before a grueling hike in heavy boots. He too has >tough >classes, but the professional training sets him apart from his >civilian >counterparts. I'm finding that I have more in common with you folks, >fellow >mid parents, than with a number of my old friends. You understand why >this >network draws my attention like a magnet, and how this rapport helps >to put >my new passion in perspective. > >I enjoy reading about your mids because it offsets missing mine. >There is >also the awareness that they, Navy, and us support one another to >sustain a >degree of service unlike any civilian undertaking. The training is >tough >because it prepares mids to make the ultimate sacrifice, should that >be >demanded of them. And we, parents, who love our children so much, not >only >accept that reality, but endorse it. > >I know wonderful people who cannot understand how I could do such a >thing. A >young boy told me not long ago, "My mom doesn't understand how you >would let >your son go to war; she'd send me to Canada." I did not debate with >him >because I did not wish to pit him against his mother. But it made me >sad >that there are many who do not understand, much less appreciate, the >sacrificial choices our sons and daughters make in taking their oaths >of >office. > >But all of you out there do. We share that awareness from which our >pride, >and even greater love, burst forth. I am very, very grateful for this >gift ( >Thank you Mike and Sandi!!) -- the opportunity to share our stories >with one >another. > >Lilia Mayer >Richmond, VA >Justin 03/07 > >*** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W > > >Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > >Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. *** USNA-NET post by: SCHROEDER Michael J 01-23 James A. 99 -8 SCHROEDER Penny ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA20824 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:13:35 -0500 (CDT) Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal To: "USNA-Net" From: "Jo Anne Mitzen" Subject: usna-net: MiniBUDS Date: Sat, 02 Oct 99 12:14:28 PDT Hello! We had the pleasure of meeting Arthur Ball and having him visit twice in Nesquehoning. What a wonderful person! My Mom got such a kick out of seeing Art on the Discovery program on the Academies. Joe has to take all the Mids he brings home down to meet his Nana Ondo. I remember Art telling us back then that his goal was to be a SEAL! Gerri & Art, you have a wonderful son! We're rooting for him! Joe called me last night & told me that they got a hold of a video camera & taped some of the MiniBUDS exercises. If I ever get to see it, I'll make a copy of it. Go Navy! Jo Anne *** USNA-NET post by: MITZEN Joseph B 01-16 MITZEN Jo Anne and Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA26498 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:26:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 13:11:50 -0700 From: Art & Gerri Ball Organization: . To: usnanet list server Subject: usna-net: Prescreener MiniBUDS is over!!! Well the anticipated call came earlier than expected! It is officially over for this leg of it. "The last part has been secured" (over). Now there is more waiting. They have to tally up all the scores, etc and calculate out everyone's performance to see who gets the alloted slots for the next leg of this BUDS course. Arthur hasn't sounded that tired since Plebe summer, but also there was such an elation in his voice that it was over and he had made it thru. He was so tired and sore. They had to run with the boats (again) they did that yesterday only today they did the outer leg of the academy about 5 miles so he says. He is in the SMURF group (any guess why) you got because they are short. (no snickers, please. I wouldn't mix with these guys-short or tall) so it made it all the more tough. Everyone is sleeping it off. It got tough at the end because everyone was so exhausted. He was more apprehensive over the swimming part in the pool - because that is his weakest area.But he said that wasn't even as bad as he thought. If anyone tapes the BUDS exercises - please contact me personally and I would love a copy. Yes, we are very proud of him - but there isn't a Mid up there I wouldn't be proud of -- whatever they do. It is tough and a challenge no matter what they pick- I watched the Women's Navy Soccer play last night and what a great group of ladies they are. Women's Navy plays Army on Sunday. Thanks for all the support and feedback. I couldn't have contacted and talked to have my "other " friends as fast as I talk to this net. Gerri Ball Arthur '01 27th company St.Louis, MO *** USNA-NET post by: BALL Arthur 01 BALL Gerri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA00447 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:40:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "JOSEPH MOSCATO" To: Subject: usna-net: WE WON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 15:42:56 -0000 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01BF0CEC.CC3F9F40" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BF0CEC.CC3F9F40 charset="iso-8859-1" Just watched my first Navy Football game. Exciting, It sure was. NAVY = BEAT WEST VIRGINIA 31-28. GO NAVY,AND THEY DID! MOSCATO DARREN, 03/14 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BF0CEC.CC3F9F40 charset="iso-8859-1"
Just watched my first Navy Football = game. Exciting,=20 It sure was. NAVY BEAT
WEST VIRGINIA 31-28.
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------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BF0CEC.CC3F9F40-- *** USNA-NET post by: MOSCATO Darren J 03-G MOSCATO Joseph and Melody ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA00915 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 15:06:11 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "usnanet list server" References: <37F666F3.5106E949@primary.net> Subject: usna-net: ladies soccer Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 15:06:48 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 The Navy ladies soccer team play against Creighton on Sunday morning at 9AM in Fenton, MO. Congrats to the "bud", almost!! My fingers are crossed. Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA09431 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:01:10 -0500 (CDT) From: MrCid1@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:01:55 EDT Subject: usna-net: Air Force game To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I have just been informed that Redskins Stadium has had problems with tailgaters who have no tickets to the game taking up space in the parking lot so be sure to have your tickets before you get to the stadium - I don't know if they will be checking for a Navy game, but Be Prepared. Carol New Hampshire *** USNA-NET post by: CIPRIANO Jason A. 02-15 CIPRIANO Al and Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA14081 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:50:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1980 16:26:28 -0800 From: Stanford To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: discovery program Hello to all Was it mentioned that the mid of someone on this list was on the Discovery chanel program Inside the Academies? All those young people spoke so well. Linda Tim 02/23 Indiana *** USNA-NET post by: STANFORD Timothy 02-23 STANFORD Linda ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA20223 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 22:35:12 -0500 (CDT) From: MPOVONDRA@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 23:35:57 EDT Subject: usna-net: SEALS To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi All; Last night on the "History Channel," Walter Mudd narrated a program on the history of the Navy SEALS. It started with the birth of the frogmen and brought you up to today's SEALS. If any wants to see it, the History Channel is selling the tape of the program. Their phone number is 1 (800) 708-1776. Marc F. Povondra Marc T. 03/14 *** USNA-NET post by: POVONDRA Marc T 03-14 POVONDRA Marc and Theo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA21893 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 22:57:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 21:53:34 -0600 Subject: Re: usna-net: Pottsville, PA From: "LeRoy Gravseth" To: RAmes50695@aol.com CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by westpoint.west-point.org id WAA21888 Hi Judy, Thank-You for you response. Adam is #75 and plays defensive tackle. If you talk to him just give him a hug (he will like that) and tell him that his parents are thinking of him. We really wish that we could be there. We had the opportunity to see him play a couple of weeks ago during ³First Class Parents Weekend.² Our youngest son David plays Rugby. The Navy Ruby team is good. He was also in the Catholic Choir his Plebe summer. Our oldest son Monty (98) was on the Off Shore Sailing Team. Yes, we are very proud of all of our sons! The funny part is, that I was ³only a ground Marine². When I left the USMC in early December of 73, I arrive from overseas to Philadelphia with my new bride, (she is from Spain and was her first time in the USA) we had a hard time getting a room in town, Conchita (my wife) asked if that always happen in America. I said not really, but what happen is that tomorrow is the Navy/Army football game, and as I recall she said ³what is that²? Never did we dream that 22 years (1996) later we would be back in Philadelphia for the Navy/Army game, meeting our two oldest sons, both Midshipmen (98, 00), and the youngest (David), with his application to the Militaries Academies already in process.! Yes we can said that we are really proud of our boys ! As a ground Marine I never dreamed that my sons would go to the Naval Academy and that I would became a Blue and Gold Officer for South Eastern Missouri. I received my training the first week of Plebe summer for the class of 2002. May the seas be calm and a gentle breeze at your back LeRoy & Conchita Gravseth Poplar Bluff, MO Monty 98 Adam 00/01 David 02/29 *** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA22709 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 00:09:39 -0500 (CDT) From: twonavymidsmom@webtv.net X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAnhs5p+y9GITgETBnXWrcCMunjeECFQCsOCHEDrKuJeKVGtVIF1pTZ/gneg== Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 22:10:57 -0700 (MST) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Shipping Question Part Deux Content-Disposition: Inline X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by westpoint.west-point.org id AAA22704 Hello all, and THANK YOU for your information regarding shipping directly to Bancroft Hall last week. My daughter received her French horn, none-the-worse-for-wear and intact via UPS and for a mere $43 2 day delivery, which included a bazillion dollars in insurance on it, and right to Bancroft Hall! Latest email as of five minutes ago? "Hi Mom, Yes my horn got here, thanks. Dan needs his GOOD trombone, too! Can you send it? Lova ya'! --Katie" DOH! Guess I'll be going back to UPS this week and sending my son's trombone! Ha! Guess his contra won't work in a quintet, but I didn't know HE was in the quintet, too, until five minutes ago! DOH! You have all been so helpful. Thanks a million for some very good advice on the shipping! Dan got back from driving to WVA with the RYDER truck full of D&B instruments; Katie stayed on the yard this weekend [she dropped D&B this semester due to heavy classes] and she just emailed me that she ran 15 miles tonight, and is going on the Catholic Choir trip tomorrow somewhere in MD. They sure lead BUSY lives! God bless you all and GO NAVY! Eileen Arizona Navy Mom Dan '01 09 & Katie '01 30 [...and Dan's fiancée is Bridget '01 24--& another wonderful mid!] *** USNA-NET post by: ESTES Daniel 01 Kathryn 01 ESTES Eileen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA12903 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 03:25:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 01:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Christine Enders Subject: usna-net: Price Is Right To: "" Getting ready for work on Thursday morning, I was tuned into Price Is Right. One of the first four contestants that were called was a USNA Mid. All I caught was his first name, Justin, than I had to leave for work. Does anyone know who this was and what he won? Congrats to him and what an opportunity!! According to news reports about Bob Barker's recent surgery, he would not miss any tapings because they were done six weeks in advance. Whoever the Mid was had to have been in CA around August 19. I hope he did well! Christine Enders WI Cale Johnson - '03-10 D&B __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSON Cale Wayne 03-10 ENDERS Christine ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA29464 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:47:31 -0500 (CDT) From: EFi3346410@aol.com Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:48:08 EDT Subject: usna-net: Navy vs. Creighton To: usna-net@navy-usna.org And Navy won 6-1. 6 women from Navy scored, game was great. Last nights rain gone, sun out, even saw sleeves rolled up for that tanning thing, temp in low 60's. No injuries. If ARMY and AIR FORCE keep scores low, and Army wins, NAVY could win the tournement with highest scores. Also the Toys for Tots made out well.. Lynn Fisher St. Louis *** USNA-NET post by: FISHER Jamie K. 02-25 FISHER Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA03516 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 14:44:37 -0500 (CDT) From: GWEBB672@aol.com Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 15:45:17 EDT Subject: usna-net: Tickets To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello fellow Mid Parents, family and friends: A hearty thank you is in order for the always dependable members of this network. I sent out a Help message because of my lack of attention to detail and many of you were there to save my bacon. I have a ticket now, and a good one at that. Thank you to all who answered my cry for help. I am looking forward to meeting as many parents network members as I can this coming weekend. Almost as much as seeing my 4/C mid! I will be attending one of the world famous tailgate parties by Gate D. I am sooo anxious for this weekend. Even the long flights cannot dampen my attitude. It also helps that the Air Force Falcons are not playing well and our Navy Blue & Gold seem to be coming into their own. Thanks again, George Webb Boise, Idaho Jeff, 03-5 *** USNA-NET post by: WEBB Jeffery M 03-5 WEBB George and Laura ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA05336 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 15:04:09 -0500 (CDT) From: MPOVONDRA@aol.com Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:04:46 EDT Subject: usna-net: repeat To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi All; Right now on the Discovery Channel, they are showing "the Academies" again. *** USNA-NET post by: POVONDRA Marc T 03-14 POVONDRA Marc and Theo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA05430 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 15:07:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 14:02:59 -0600 Subject: usna-net: Navy Sprint Football update From: "LeRoy Gravseth" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi everyone, Our son David 02/29 is talking to us on the phone and he is watching his brother playing the Navy Sprint Football game at the Academy, their are playing Frostburg University and NAVY is WINNING by 21 to 7 ........ Way to Go Navy! We well send you an update at the end of the game. Go Navy Beat Frostburn, and next week Beat Army in Pottsville, PA LeRoy & Conchita Gravseth's 98, 00, 02 Poplar Bluff MO *** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA11038 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:19:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [163.179.204.54] From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Extra Navy/Air Force Ticket Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 17:20:18 EDT To all, Looks like we purchased one extra ticket for the upcoming football game. (Great planning on my part!) Tired of watching all the action on TV, doing pushups and yelling navy fight songs that only your family can hear. Be with the real action and lead your own stadium section in Anchors Away. :-) You can have it all for $20. Will be down to Annapolis Friday night. Be Loud! Be Proud! Go Navy! Have A Great Navy Day! Anne & Dennis Kolb Matt 03 7th Co. Long Island, NY, USA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: KOLB Matthew V 03-7 KOLB Anne and Dennis ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA11091 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:21:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 15:17:32 -0600 Subject: Re: usna-net: Navy Sprint Football update From: "LeRoy Gravseth" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org finnal score Navy 35 Frostburg 18 A great win for NAVYs Sprint Football Team. next stop Army at Potsville. LeRoy Gravseth *** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18908 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 20:46:39 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [166.68.134.163] From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Ticket Update Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:47:22 EDT To all, The extra ticket for the Navy-Air Force Game is gone thanks to this list. It was an extra ticket for about 15 minutes, and went to a Mid parent who actually called my home. We will have one more Navy fan at the game. BEAT AIR FORCE. Be Loud! Be Proud! Go Navy! Have A Great Navy Day! Anne & Dennis Kolb Matt 03 7th Co. Long Island, NY, USA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: KOLB Matthew V 03-7 KOLB Anne and Dennis ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21656 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 21:02:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "The Hawbaker Family" To: Subject: usna-net: Navy vs Air force tix Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:01:21 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Since our Midn. will be on tour with the Glee Club, we would have our Navy vs air force football tix (2) available plus the parking pass. Please email me directly if you are interested so we can get them out in the snail mail Steve Hawbaker *** USNA-NET post by: HAWBAKER Benjamin F 03 HAWBAKER Cindy and Steve ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA26082 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 21:55:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "GARLAND E. TIMMONS" To: Subject: usna-net: Triathlon Team Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 21:47:14 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF0DE8.DB00CDE0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF0DE8.DB00CDE0 charset="iso-8859-1" Just wanted to see if anybody has a mid on the triathlon team that went = to North Carolina this weekend. We would like to see if anyone has = heard if they have returned back to The Yard safely. Just anxious to = hear from them. Thanks, Tim & Cherlynn Timmons = =20 Marty 02/23 Cleburne Texas ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF0DE8.DB00CDE0 charset="iso-8859-1"
Just wanted to see if anybody has a mid on the = triathlon team=20 that went to North Carolina this weekend.  We would like to see if = anyone=20 has heard if they have returned back to The Yard safely.  Just = anxious to=20 hear from them.  Thanks, Tim & Cherlynn = Timmons   =20             =    =20            
 
Marty 02/23
Cleburne Texas
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF0DE8.DB00CDE0-- *** USNA-NET post by: TIMMONS Marty D 02-23 TIMMONS Tim and Cherlynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA27276 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:10:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Andidr1@aol.com Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:08:17 EDT Subject: usna-net: Catholic Choir in Maryland To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi all! Well, I was able to attend the Mass in Maryland this afternoon and what a pleasure! The Basillica was packed and a few Admirals were in attendence with their families. Admiral Ryan was there with his wife and many other top Brass that I did not recognize. The Mids in attendance were outstanding in both their performance and their demeanor. They were quite at ease answering any questions that were directed to them during the reception and they even seemed to enjoy themselves despite the fact that most were many times their senior. I managed to take a few pictures but since I forgot my zoom lens I am not sure how they will turn out. I also took my camcorder, but now realize I need a new battery. It lasted only about 5 seconds! What a bummer. I should have remembered that it didn't work right when I was at the Boston game. I was just so happy to be there that it didn't matter after a while. I cried when they sang Eternal Father and just thought how wonderful they sounded since only about half of the Choir was there. When it was time to leave I had a lump in my throat, not only for my Mid, but for all the great Mids that are our children. I could tell they were all well and very comfortable with the group and knew that it was the right thing for them. I must apologize for not getting to speak to most of the Mids as I found it hard to leave my son's side. A few that I was looking for may not have been there and the ones I found know that I found them! It was a beautiful day complimented by beautiful music. I wish it would never end. On a funny side, I took a picture that my daughter thought was weird, but my son begged for. As is the custom, the Mids left their covers outside in the foyer of the reception area. As luck would have it, we were right next to Admiral Ryan and Admiral Dan Bowler as they placed their covers on a small table. My son took his cover and placed it on the same small table. Just big enough for 3. I looked at him and asked if it was some kind of omen, his cover being with the Admirals'. He just looked at me and said 'Mom you've got to get a picture" , so I obliged and took the shot. Who knows, maybe one day his cover will wear as much gold as the other two! Navy parents everywhere can be proud of their sons and daughters and this life they have chosen. Andrea Darone Middletown, DE *** USNA-NET post by: DARONE Gregory M 03-21 DARONE Dave and Andrea ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA28106 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:44:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Andidr1@aol.com Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:45:06 EDT Subject: usna-net: Catholic choir addition To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi again. I had just put my head on my pillow when I realized I had not mentioned the young men and young woman who were the cantor and the readers. The cantor according to the program was Midn. 2/c Peter Dwyer, and he had the most wonderful voice. If you closed your eyes you thought you were listening to a professional on a stage. The readers did a great job, despite the fact that the sound system was not that great. Nonetheless, they did their reading with complete self confidence. Once again, parents you have everything to be proud of. Again, good night all. Andrea Darone *** USNA-NET post by: DARONE Gregory M 03-21 DARONE Dave and Andrea ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA28666 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:14:39 -0500 (CDT) From: NevesPK@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 00:15:24 EDT Subject: usna-net: Sprint Football Team Parents.... To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Congratulations to all those who have players on the Sprint Football Team - they did an excellent job running past Frostburg 35-15 this afternoon...Now, on the Pottsville, Pa ! GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY! Pamela Doug 02/22 Sprint Football & Track Oregon *** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA28930 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:27:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 23:32:58 -0500 From: dev mahadevan X-Accept-Language: en To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Womens's Rugby wins again Women's rugby played at Richmond VA last week, and in Philadelphia , Saturday this weekend and has won all 3 games. Our daughter has dropped from D & B and has joined the "Elegant Violence" team. Of course we are a little anxious about the high incidence of injuries in this sport. But, Pritha seems to really enjoy it so far...while we hold our breath until we hear from her after each game !! This is a new sport for us and would appreciate any input from other parents of Women's Rugby Team. .Thank you And. I need to sound off here....In a recent " Survey" conducted by either Time or NewsWeek, [Anyone knows which issue?] USNA female Mids were voted to be the least good looking females in college next to USMA !! ..Of course I was glad to see the USNA & USMA men were voted as most good -looking ! ...May be we need to send the pictures of our daughters [ in uniform] and that will be worth a thousand words...They will certainly make gorgeous cover girls !! Naaah...just a thought really, for sweet revenge.!!! .... Wonder who did the survey? No..not calling for protest, roast the editor or burn the weekly but just a little sounding off from a proud mother of a very pretty, bright and awesome female Mid.... AND Proud of all our Mids Lakshmi Mahadevan Pritha/ 24th co *** USNA-NET post by: MAHADEVAN Pritha 02-24 MAHADEVAN Lakshmi and Dev ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA07239 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 06:33:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 05:29:35 -0600 Subject: Re: usna-net: Womens's Rugby wins again From: "LeRoy Gravseth" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I have 2 sons that have/are playing Ruby. Adam (00/01) played his plebe and youngster years. David (02/29) started the fall of his plebe year and is still playing. This is a sport that rely don't get the respect or suport that they should. These young men and women give thier all for thier sport. For me a good Ruby game is not win/loss its did any of the mids need medical help or not. As far as the academy women. How many boys truly think that thier sisters are the best looking?????? Not many. Over the last 6 years I have heard many times that the class becomes like a family over plebe summer. So take it to hart that the young women at USNA are not judged by classmates but by family. I would also like to remind you the young women at the academy don't have hours to fix thier hair and put on makeup. May the Sun shine on your face and a gental breeze at your back. LeRoy Gravseth 98,00,02 Poplar Bluff MO *** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA07289 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 06:35:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [207.172.62.134] From: "Lester Wagner" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Navy/Air Force Game Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 07:36:08 EDT Hi all ! I have one ticket for the Navy/Air Force game. This is a club level, Section 324, Row 9 Seat 17. Please e-mail me directly. Les Wagner Richmond, VA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: WAGNER Lilien A 03-27 WAGNER Lester and Eileen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA10244 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:24:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Membership counts... Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:23:19 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all, A member wrote to me "off-net" and said... <<>> As of this morning, we have 697 Members in USNA-Net, 576 Members in USNA-Plebe and 71 Members in USNA-ClubNet. These are individual email address but many are shared by two parents (ie. John and Mary Smith are counted as one member if they use only one email address) so our actual member count is well over 1,200 individuals. Remember that EVERYONE is enrolled in USNA-Net. Of those, 576 are also enrolled in USNA-Plebe with 396 of those being true Plebe Families and 180 being Upper Class Families (02, 01, and 00). Yes, we're growing by leaps and bounds. I'd like to thank all of you for your participation and willingness to help with questions and advice to other members. Your good manners and kindness toward other parents is what makes this whole thing work. Keep it up. By the way, Let's not be too shy about answering questions on the Net. If a member posts a question that a lot of other members might be interested in, PLEASE post the answer to the Listserver so that we can all share in the answer rather than to just the individual "off-Net." Too many answers have not been posted to the Lists of late and it's getting a little too quiet out there. Just remember to keep Plebe related questions and the "chattier" stuff on USNA-Plebe. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA11983 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:59:01 -0500 (CDT) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:59:12 -0400 Subject: usna-net: Weekend Liberty? X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-5 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Lee Ann Gale Does anyone know what the liberty schedule is for this upcoming Columbus day weeekend? Do the Mids have liberty until 1 am on Saturday and Sunday and Yard liberty on Monday? Thanks! Lee Ann Gale Tim 03/21 MA *** USNA-NET post by: GALE Timothy 03 GALE Lee Ann and Greg ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA12417 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:19:17 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: References: <19991004.085916.-176673.10.ZGALE@juno.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: Weekend Liberty? Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:19:49 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Lee Ann Gale and all: Yes when a holiday falls on a Monday the Plebes have "town" liberty on Saturday and Sunday with "Yard" liberty on Monday. Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA12858 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:39:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" To: "" References: <1a05bddf.252a0339@aol.com> Subject: usna-net: Re: fowarding e-mail to mids Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:38:19 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 This morning a member asked: <<>> Sending information obtained from the Lists to your Mid is NOT against the rules. Forwarding the entire message (with names and emails intact) OR forwarding any message that might have a negative impact on a Mid or his company or his sport or his club...(you get the idea) IS AGAINST THE RULES. There is no problem with what this member sent along to her Mid. Things like reminding about a concert that you heard about on the List, or sending the link to an article about he Admiral are perfectly permissible. Our rule is meant to prevent damage or harm to our Mids and our members. AND to protect our members' right to privacy. Best regards, Sandi Zets Westlake, OH jsandi@mail.com Co-Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Co-Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA13331 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:06:07 -0500 (CDT) From: STereshko@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:06:52 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Weekend Liberty? To: zgale@juno.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Historically, this has been the liberty schedule for Plebes over a holiday (3-day) weekend. Although, on a home football weekend liberty usually begins AFTER the game on Saturday. This will be especially true on Oct. 9th since the Brigade will be bussed to Redskins Stadium for the march-on and game. Sunday of a long weekend is treated like a Saturday with liberty commencing either after 1000 hrs. of after the Mid has fulfilled any other outstanding military obligations on that day. Upperclass are eligible for town liberty on Monday; although many choose to remain on the yard and "hit the books". GO NAVY.. BEAT AIR FORCE!!! Sue & Jim In a message dated 10/4/99 9:13:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, zgale@juno.com writes: > Subj: usna-net: Weekend Liberty? > Date: 10/4/99 9:13:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From: zgale@juno.com (Lee Ann Gale) > To: usna-net@navy-usna.org > > Does anyone know what the liberty schedule is for this upcoming Columbus > day weeekend? Do the Mids have liberty until 1 am on Saturday and Sunday > and Yard liberty on Monday? Thanks! > > Lee Ann Gale > Tim 03/21 > MA *** USNA-NET post by: TERESHKO AJ 00-2 Daniel 02-14 TERESHKO Sue and Jim ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA19400 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:33:02 -0500 (CDT) From: WHITEJIB@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:33:45 EDT Subject: usna-net: Hotel Room To: usna-net@navy-usna.org At 11:00am EST we will be canceling our room reservation at the Wyndam Garden Hotel in Annapolis. It is a Double, $164.00 per night for October 9th, 10th. We have made other arrangements for the weekend. Hope this helps someone. GO NAVY beat AIR FORCE FLY NAVY Janice White Roswell, GA Paul 03/1 *** USNA-NET post by: WHITE Paul D 03-1 WHITE Janice ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA02420 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:09:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "RICHARD CLARK" To: "USNA Net" Subject: usna-net: Stress Management Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:09:32 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 My son communicated this morning that he received an e-mail today announcing a class that will meet tonight regarding management of time and stress. It will be the fourth and final session. He says he does not recall receiving any previous postings. He would like to attend, but the firsties in his company have a mandatory reception at Admiral Ryan's house during the same hour. He will probably check with the originator of this e-mail regarding follow-up or repeated sessions of this class. Does anyone have information about these classes that I could pass on to him. Thanks in advance, Mary Ann Clark Warren, '00-18th Co. *** USNA-NET post by: CLARK Warren C. 00-18 CLARK Dick and Mary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA07453 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:39:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:00:38 -0400 (EDT) From: John Ventura To: usna-net@navy-usna.org 4 Oct, 1999 Does anyone have two extra tickets to the Navy - Air Force game this Saturday. Please contact me privately at : venturajr@npt.nuwc.navy.mil Thank you. Go NAVY - Beat Air Force *** USNA-NET post by: VENTURA Ann C 03-19 VENTURA John and Carlene ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA08096 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:02:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:16:33 -0400 (EDT) From: John Ventura To: usna-net@navy-usna.org 4 Oct, 1999 Does anyone have two extra tickets to the Navy - Air Force game this Saturday. Please contact me privately at : venturajr@npt.nuwc.navy.mil Thank you. Go NAVY - Beat Air Force *** USNA-NET post by: VENTURA Ann C 03-19 VENTURA John and Carlene ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA08991 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:46:37 -0500 (CDT) From: LiliaMayer@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:47:17 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Membership counts... To: mzets@mail.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Congrats Mike for this tremendous growth! I can't thank you and Sandi enough for your dedication and generosity. You keep us parents going !! :) Lilia Mayer Richmond, VA Jusitn 03/07 *** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA09262 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:00:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Twins122@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:01:34 EDT Subject: usna-net: Air Force - Navy tickets To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello Navy Friends! I have just been successful in my millionth attempt to get a ROOM for Saturday night -- so now I need two (2) tickets to the game. If anyone has two tickets they want to sell, please contact me directly. Thank you! GO NAVY ... BEAT AIR FORCE !! Diane Bohr (Pennsylvania) Jennifer Bohr '01 (17th Co.) *** USNA-NET post by: BOHR Jennifer Lynne 01 BOHR Diane and James ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA15996 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:19:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:21:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: Stanford cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: discovery program REPLY In-Reply-To: <12CFFDB4.38CC@mail.icongrp.com> That program was seen by me for the first time and it came just when it was supposed to. I spent saturday and sunday with my son's sponsor. I missed Pokey and some of the other firsties, as they wanted to go partying. Sunday I was up bright and early with Matt Ahlers and John and I went off to church. I almost started to cry as there we were in chapel with all those good looking guys and gals. Their uniforms were spotless and creased to the hills. The plebes were very easily detectable as they pleated the back of their shirts so it would lay straight. The choir was MAGNIFICENT The diction and pitch was true to NAVY form...just perfect. The sun beamed in through the windows and it was still bright when I walked over to the gazebo t o meet Carol and Dennis. What happened? I missed you. I waited for about 20 minutes then drove to have breakfast at McGarvey's. John Vorndick can be found at the only reserved table in the place and you will get a laugh out of this. One of the rugby team members was there. He ordered the biggest platter in the place and proceeded to take something from everyone's plate....and he still wanted more. You have to know that it was 1000 and he had breakfast in King hall earlier. Several of the other mids were there also and it was so heartwarming to be on the yard and talking and listening to all of them. I look forward to going again sometime when I am up north. Carol, I hope you and Dennis are OK...please let me know. peace and hugs...Jo Oliver John '97 Leesburg FL (new) *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA17705 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:41:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 17:43:11 -0700 From: "Michael T. Alexander" X-Accept-Language: en To: Lee Ann Gale CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Weekend Liberty? References: <19991004.085916.-176673.10.ZGALE@juno.com> Ms. Gale, My wife, Patricia, just returned from Annapolis. Our plebe, Patrick, advised that this weekend, Sunday would be treated the same as a Saturday, i.e., liberty off base until 0100. Mike Alexander Patrick 03/21 Water Polo Lee Ann Gale wrote: > Does anyone know what the liberty schedule is for this upcoming Columbus > day weeekend? Do the Mids have liberty until 1 am on Saturday and Sunday > and Yard liberty on Monday? Thanks! > > Lee Ann Gale > Tim 03/21 > MA > > *** USNA-NET post by: GALE Timothy 03 GALE Lee Ann and Greg > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: ALEXANDER Patrick J 03-21 ALEXANDER Michael and Patricia ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA17972 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:55:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 21:10:18 -0400 From: Some Cully To: MrCid1@aol.com CC: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: usna-net: Air Force game References: it is true that people without tickets tailgate with friends who do have tickets in the Redskins parking lot and last year we didn't have to show our tickets when we entered the lot. It seemed not to matter. We also tried to tell the attendant that we needed to go to a certain area of the lot to meet up with our tailgate group. It didn't matter, you are basically cordoned off in the direction of areas that you have no desire to be in - so be prepared to lug tailgate equipment around in search of your group - if you think it is hard to find someone at Navy's home stadium , wait to you see the set up here. The layout makes it difficult to see any one's balloons but good advance planning and very early arrival times can make it successful. Go Navy! Kathy C. *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18494 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:23:17 -0500 (CDT) From: TRMan221@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:23:58 EDT Subject: usna-net: (no subject) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I would like more info on the tailgate for this saturday's game. Where, when & what is needed. Thanks. Janet Manion Doylestown, PA Travis 03/17 Wrestling *** USNA-NET post by: MANION Travis J 03-17 MANION Janet and Tom ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA19060 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:27:10 -0500 (CDT) From: MrCid1@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:27:46 EDT Subject: usna-net: tailgating To: usna-net@navy-usna.org so, any suggestions how early to leave Annapolis to get to Redskins Stadium? Also, any suggestions on what we can bring? Our tickets say Gate D. We are traveling so we can't get real complicated, but don' t want to miss out on the fun Carol *** USNA-NET post by: CIPRIANO Jason A. 02-15 CIPRIANO Al and Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA00852 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:57:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 23:13:06 -0400 From: Some Cully To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: tailgating time Dear Carol, Last year we left Annapolis around 9 AM for the stadium (Redskins) and we weren't the only ones in the traffic pattern going there! We did arrive in time for the festivities. I hope this helps for this year. Go Navy! Kathy C. *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA01957 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:21:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sherry & Bob Anderson" To: Subject: usna-net: Saturday's game - Oct 9th Air Force - Navy game Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:20:17 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF0DED.791CBD00" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF0DED.791CBD00 charset="iso-8859-1" Hello: Just got tickets last night from wonderful people on the USNA-NET. =20 Can anyone who is going to the game tell us where you are tailgating and = what we can bring? We'd love to meet each one of you at the game if = possible. Also, what kind of clothing should we bring? What will the weather be = like? We are flying in Friday night. Thanks in advance!! Bob and Sherry Anderson Carroll, Iowa Travis '03/24 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF0DED.791CBD00 charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello:
 
Just got tickets last night from wonderful = people on=20 the USNA-NET. 
 
Can anyone who is going to the game tell us = where you=20 are tailgating and what we can bring?  We'd love to meet each one = of you at=20 the game if possible.
 
Also, what kind of clothing should we bring?  What will the = weather be=20 like?
 
We are flying in Friday night.
 
Thanks in advance!!
 
Bob and Sherry Anderson
Carroll, Iowa
Travis '03/24
 
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF0DED.791CBD00-- *** USNA-NET post by: ANDERSON Travis J 03-24 ANDERSON Bob and Sheri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA02115 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:34:18 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sherry & Bob Anderson" To: Subject: usna-net: directions to staduim for game Saturday Oct 9th Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:31:04 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009B_01BF0DEE.FADE1860" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01BF0DEE.FADE1860 charset="iso-8859-1" Hello: Can anyone tell us how to get to the game this Saturday from Annapolis? Thanks,=20 Bob and Sherry Anderson Carroll, Iowa=20 Travis '03/24 ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01BF0DEE.FADE1860 charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello:
 
Can anyone tell us how to get to the game this Saturday from=20 Annapolis?
 
Thanks,
 
Bob and Sherry Anderson
Carroll, Iowa
Travis '03/24
------=_NextPart_000_009B_01BF0DEE.FADE1860-- *** USNA-NET post by: ANDERSON Travis J 03-24 ANDERSON Bob and Sheri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA02201 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:38:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 22:44:02 -0500 From: dev mahadevan X-Accept-Language: en To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Thanks for your support Thank you Leroy Gravseth, Lynn Fisher, Lauren Besignano, Kathy Cully and Terri Sweatman for writing back in support of my posting regarding the now infamous 'survey'. Terri, your statement 'sizzles' and should be on the net...I'll let you decide on that.. You commented that I was very calm in the way I handled it, but I was merely trying to practice some restraint which our Mids have been trained to do so admirably well!! If I ever find out which issue published the survey I do intend to respond appropriately... Do these people realize the many battles women have fought to get where they are now?? Sadly such a biased statement sets women back many years in their progress and does not do justice to our brave daughters. My concern is that this could hurt future recruitment as well. It's tough being a Midshipman as it is and being a woman is, in some ways harder.... I guess the female mids do not have the luxury to perm, dress up, fuss about their nails, hair and visit the salon as their counterparts do in other campuses.....And I am serious folks, they are gorgeous women who can beat any college girl in looks alone not to mention the brains, grit and dogged determination it takes to get accepted and to survive an academy nomination. They also are not fickle or vain and set themselves apart in their dedication to serve their country, just like our sons. My conclusion is that this survey was done by a shallow woman, who had an eye only for the handsome men in uniform. She probably was so resentful of women in the Academies for what they have achieved and was totally intimidated...Or it could have been done by a male chauvinist who is still having trouble accepting women's status today and the stature our daughters have accopmlished and yes, indeed intimidated as well. I thought long and hard before posting on this issue..Having gone through the USNA experience, I simply could not accept this in passing and had to call attention to the lack of appropriate recognition for women even today's world. But such is life and we must in its journey, keep our grace in dealing with the good and the bad. Thanks for your suport again. God bless our Mids and their families Lakshmi Mahadevan Pritha '02 / 24 th *** USNA-NET post by: MAHADEVAN Pritha 02-24 MAHADEVAN Lakshmi and Dev ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA02502 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:57:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 23:58:06 -0400 From: Jack Riismandel Organization: @Home Network X-Accept-Language: en To: "USNA-NET navy-usna.org" Subject: [Fwd: usna-net: Navy vs. Air Force 10/1 St. Louis] boundary="------------C3B0A016D38C2057ED484959" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C3B0A016D38C2057ED484959 --------------C3B0A016D38C2057ED484959 Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 21:55:36 -0400 From: Jack Riismandel Organization: @Home Network X-Accept-Language: en To: EFi3346410@aol.com Subject: Re: usna-net: Navy vs. Air Force 10/1 St. Louis References: Sure, First: Thanks for all the support for the girls this weekend and the help in making the trip enjoyable despite certain injuries... Second: As much as we root against Army, they came through for us on Sunday morning. The Annual Toys for Tots Tournament was won by "NAVY"....yes, due to the record keeping..Army beat Air Force 2-1 on Sunday morning which meant that all four teams were 1-1...That meant the tie breaking system was used and we had given up 3 goals, but had scored 7...Air Force give up 3 goals but only scored 3 goals. Army gave up 4 goals and only scored 2. Creighton scored 4 goals, but gave up 6. So, we were the winner based on goal difference....Go Navy, for the second year, we won the championship with Margaret Ewers (#13) was the MVP for the tournament. Navy had six different players score on Sunday (Hardebeck, Fisher, Murphy, Nance, Rains, Gates) for the 6- victory. We had an enjoyable weekend in St. Louis and after receiving the trophy, we headed off to the Galarie Mall prior to flying home at least some what satisfied with the final game and tournament outcome..Final word, Kristen(#16) has a tear in her ACL, but looks like she will be able to play with a brace and finish the season without surgery. EFi3346410@aol.com wrote: > > I did not make it back to stadium for awards. Ask Jack to post the final > outcomes for all to see. > > Thanks, Lynn --------------C3B0A016D38C2057ED484959-- *** USNA-NET post by: RIISMANDEL Kristen E 00-19 Michael B 03-25 RIISMANDEL Kathy and Jack ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA05421 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 00:02:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: najwilt@apci.net Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 00:02:47 -0500 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: Nelson & Ann Wilt Subject: usna-net: NAVY-AIR FORCE GAME EVENTS Has anyone seen a schedule of events -- march-on, pregame -- etc for the game Saturday? thanks, Ann Wilt John '00 - 28 *** USNA-NET post by: WILT John N. 00 WILT Nelson and Ann ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA07333 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 06:39:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "francis1" To: Subject: usna-net: Navy, beating AF Saturday, info: Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 07:48:14 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Hi all thought some items I found on the Web may be helpful: Saturday 1015....March on Formation 1100-1125...March On 1200 GAME TIME 1500-1700 Buses depart 1600-1800 arrive USNA found on www.usna.edu/Schedules/text/twau.txt ALSO: For directions and info on the stadium, go to: www.redskins.com/STADIUM.asp this should answer just about all your questions for directions, seat chart and more! See YA all at the game Saturday! Francis & Carol Hochard, Quincy 03/10 Pittsburgh, PA *** USNA-NET post by: HOCHARD Quincy W 03-10 HOCHARD Francis and Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA07834 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 07:09:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:08:50 -0400 (EDT) From: John Ventura To: usna-net@navy-usna.org 5 Oct, 1999 Sorry about the confusion, but I now have two extra tickets to the Navy - Air Force game this Saturday. Please contact me privately at : venturajr@npt.nuwc.navy.mil Thank you. Go NAVY - Beat Air Force *** USNA-NET post by: VENTURA Ann C 03-19 VENTURA John and Carlene ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA07996 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 07:16:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "gandy" To: Subject: usna-net: D&B will Beat AF on Friday night too! Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 07:18:32 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 From the D&B commander: The Air Force competition is being held at 2000 on Friday, October 8th. We will be holding the competition on Rip Miller Field, under the lights. The only other event of the weekend as far as D&B is concerned is watching the football team tear apart those cadets from the "country club" academy. If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. Very Respectfully, John Gonser (Is Rip MIller Field the turf field where the plebes did pep?) Jackie "let me tell you about my mid" Gandy '02-30 co. "Dirty Thirty" D & B contra bass Guntersville, Alabama Go NAVY! Beat Air Force! *** USNA-NET post by: GANDY Jonathan Wayne 02-30 GANDY Wayne and Jackie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA11388 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 07:31:03 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [204.253.76.156] From: "Teri Sweatman" To: sbander@netins.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: directions to staduim for game Saturday Oct 9th Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 08:31:50 EDT Hi Everyone, My husband has an NFL book with directions to stadiums from various locations, and from the Annapolis area, it reads, : TAKE 50 WEST TO 495/I-95 South to EXIT 17A (Landover RD East) Turn right on Lottsford Rd. to Arena Drive Approximently 26 miles and 45 minute drive(that is probably with normal traffic) I won't be at the game,but being familiar with DC area, these directions look pretty easy...another source for directions is Yahoo.com, and you can get maps through that source. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: SWEATMAN Dan 03-22 SWEATMAN Mike and Teri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA11434 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 07:32:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 08:31:49 -0400 From: "Robert L. Loser" X-Accept-Language: en To: USNA-NET Subject: usna-net: WEATHER REPORTS & TRAVEL DIRECTIONS boundary="------------0DACB343C3FEC4853A2066A8" --------------0DACB343C3FEC4853A2066A8 To obtain weather reports for the Annapolis/Washington D.C. area, you may want to try these web sites: www.accuweather.com www.weather.com For travel directions, try the following site: www.freetrip.com Hope these web sites are of help to those attending the game this weekend. GO NAVY!!! BEAT AIR FORCE!!! Bob Loser Cedar Brook, NJ Eric 03/06 Heavyweight Crew --------------0DACB343C3FEC4853A2066A8 To obtain weather reports for the Annapolis/Washington D.C. area, you may want to try these web sites:

www.accuweather.com
www.weather.com

For travel directions, try the following site:
www.freetrip.com

Hope these web sites are of help to those attending the game this weekend.

GO NAVY!!!   BEAT  AIR FORCE!!!

Bob Loser
Cedar Brook, NJ

Eric 03/06
Heavyweight Crew --------------0DACB343C3FEC4853A2066A8-- *** USNA-NET post by: LOSER Eric S 03-6 LOSER Robert ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA11485 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 07:34:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "francis1" To: Subject: usna-net: wrong site Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:43:09 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sorry for the wrong web address, try www.usna.edu/Schedules/ Francis1@msn.com *** USNA-NET post by: HOCHARD Quincy W 03-10 HOCHARD Francis and Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA11788 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 07:51:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [204.253.76.156] From: "Teri Sweatman" To: miketeri72@hotmail.com, sbander@netins.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: directions to staduim for game Saturday Oct 9th Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 08:52:32 EDT More help is on its way, here is the site for directions to Navy/Air Force game at Redskin Stadium www.redskins.com/stadium_directions.htm Hope this helps, Teri Sweatman Tom'97 (1st Lt. USMC) Dan '03 22 Northport,(Long Island) NY ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: SWEATMAN Dan 03-22 SWEATMAN Mike and Teri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA13075 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:34:21 -0500 (CDT) From: LoveTango@aol.com Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:35:05 EDT Subject: usna-net: Room at the Inn To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi all, I will be calling at 10:00 this morning to cancel reservations for Oct. 8, 9 & 10 - this weekend. Our daughter's sponsor parents have invited us to stay with them and we happily have accepted. The reservations are for Historic Inns of Annapolis. One room with a double bed (and we were getting them to bring in a cot for our son). Their phone number is (301) 261-2206. These Inns are right downtown and very convenient to the Yard. We stayed there both Induction Day and PPW - walked everywhere (except the Malls, of course). But with convenience comes a high price (especially Boat Show weekend). The rate for the above room is $257. (includes taxes) plus $12./day for valet parking. That's 257. per day. I know, it's outrageous - but if they can get it, they'll charge it. Anyway - if you need a room - it will be available - probably for only a short time. It wouldn't surprise me if the Inns had a waiting list. REALLY looking forward to this weekend. Tailgate, game and MOST OF ALL - hugging and spending time with our mid! Suzan Poukish, Schenectady, NY Meghan '03/20 *** USNA-NET post by: POUKISH Meghan Leigh 03-20 POUKISH Suzan and Gary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA16954 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:05:59 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:06:43 EDT Subject: usna-net: Annapolis/DC Weekend Weather To: usna-net@navy-usna.org The Washington Post this morning is predicting the following: Friday: Mostly sunny High 66 Low 53 Saturday: Partly sunny High 69 Low 57 Sunday: Shower possible High 66 Low 53 Hope that helps! Joyce Hoffer, Sponsor Mom, Annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22016 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:53:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 10:14:23 +0000 Subject: usna-net: need help From: David Major To: usna net Hi, I know that everyone is dealing with the Navy Airforce game but Southwest is having a ticket sale and I'm trying to set up something for Army-Navy. I need to know when the best time to arrive is, I recall reading that there were rallies on the Thurs before home games. Is this true? Is the public allowed to attend? What time do they occur? Obviously I want to experience the most I can, we are coming from Calif. and I don't want to miss anything because we arrived in the early evening when I should have had us there in the morning. Please help with any info you can give me. Thanks in advance Deanna Major *** USNA-NET post by: MAJOR David William 03-8 MAJOR Bill and Deanna ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA23544 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:16:09 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [204.253.76.182] From: "Teri Sweatman" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Discovery Channel Tape Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 15:16:55 EDT Dear Navy family, if you want to order a professional done Discovery Channel's tape of inside military academies...call 1-800-367-2467(Aim Media) It is 40.00, and if you are a member of USAA, it is 20.00 for the three one hour tapes, I just ordered a set for my Dad for Christmas. USAA is a company that provides insurance, financial advice, credit cards etc. to service people and retired service, and your mids are eligible for their services. I am not promoting anything here, I just knew I would get hundreds of messages asking me what USAA is. I hope I didn't break any rules here, I do believe this tape does pertain to Navy parenting...even if just watching it makes us all feel warm and fuzzy inside, or in some cases,popping our buttons with pride! Teri Sweatman Tom'97 (1st Lt. USMC) Dan '03 22 Northport,(Long Island) NY ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: SWEATMAN Dan 03-22 SWEATMAN Mike and Teri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA23814 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:36:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:36:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: David Major cc: usna net Subject: Re: usna-net: need help REPLY In-Reply-To: <199910051754.NAA31420@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> If you do not get there before the cadet and mid buses arrive, you will be stuck and unable to see the very impressive brigade walk on. The walk on, if I remember correctly, is at 0900. Have fun. p&h....Jo Oliver John '97 Leesburg FL *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA01681 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 17:50:45 -0500 (CDT) From: ACTIONCHEM@aol.com Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:51:25 EDT Subject: usna-net: Air Force Game To: USNA-NET@navy-usna.org Hi, My husband and I are planning to drive from New York to the game in D.C. I've read a few postings about tailgating. Are people from the net getting together with their ribbons? If so we would love to join and bring pot luck ( or whatever is needed). Our tickets are for gate D. Beat Air Force Penny Hulbert Eric 02/16 *** USNA-NET post by: HULBERT Eric 02-16 HULBERT Bob and Penny ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA02986 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 19:02:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [207.115.63.24] From: "Kay McGee" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: need help Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 17:03:36 PDT To Deanna and All: Re: Army-Navy There is a pep rally on Thursday evening at Farragut Field. I can't remember if it started at 7 or 7:30. It is open to the public, but get there early to get a parking spot, as most of the parking along the sea wall was roped off for fire trucks, etc. There's a big bonfire and fireworks, and some food (roast mule?). This being the 100th Army-Navy game, there might be some extra events that you would want to fit into your plans, but I haven't seen a schedule of events posted yet. Also, I've heard that eating in King Hall during Army Week can be quite an experience, but I don't know how that works. Maybe someone else can tell us? Kay McGee WA Mike '01 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: MCGEE Michael 01-13 MCGEE Kay ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA05563 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:20:14 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:20:43 EDT Subject: usna-net: No Parking in Annapolis To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi all, Sponsor Mom here. I had dinner with friends at the Marriott tonight, and wanted to tell you about the complete change in the profile of the City Dock area. PLEASE be aware, all of you who are coming to town for the Air Force game, that the Fall Sailboat Show (biggest in the US) is in town this coming weekend, and will attract thousands of visitors. ALL the surface public parking lots at City Dock, on both sides, are blocked off and covered with tents and booths for the show. Admission will be charged to get in. I HOPE that public parking will still be available in Gott's and Hillman's garages, otherwise you will have to find space on the Yard or try to find a place on the city streets. I imagine that traffic will be tied up all the way back down Rowe Boulevard. I'm sure parking will be available at the USNA Stadium, with shuttles to the Historic Area. It may be the closest you can get. Those of you who have been picking up your mids on the Yard might want to make other arrangements. If they can walk to Graul's parking lot or the 7-11 on Taylor Avenue, for example, you might meet them there to avoid long waits at traffic lights in the Historic Area. GOOD LUCK! GO NAVY!! BEAT AIR FORCE!!! Joyce Hoffer, Sponsor Mom, Annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA16100 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:24:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 19:30:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicki Beeler Subject: usna-net: JV Football Game To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi All -- Just thought I would let you know that the JV Football team is scheduled to play NAPS on Friday at 3:30pm on the practice field next to the turf field where PEP was during PPW. (I forget all the names of these fields.) Hope to see some of you there. Go Navy! Beat Air Force! Beat NAPS! Nicki Jeff 03/21 (JV Football) ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *** USNA-NET post by: BEELER Jeffrey A 03-21 BEELER Allen and Nicki ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA17142 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:13:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 23:14:15 -0400 From: Jack Riismandel Organization: @Home Network X-Accept-Language: en To: gandy CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: D&B will Beat AF on Friday night too! References: <003601bf0f2b$be3ad400$7bc6e4d0@gandy> I would be really great if the D&B could show up at the Women's soccer game after the competition on Friday night and cheer the women to victory! They (D&B) are quite an impressive group of young adults. They should have no problem winning the competition!! Go Navy Beat Air Force!! (in both football and D&B) gandy wrote: > > >From the D&B commander: > > The Air Force competition > is being held at > 2000 on Friday, October 8th. > We will be holding the competition on Rip Miller Field, under the lights. > The only other event of the weekend as far as D&B is concerned is watching > the football team tear apart those cadets from the "country club" academy. > If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. > Very Respectfully, > John Gonser > (Is Rip MIller Field the turf field where the plebes did pep?) > > Jackie "let me tell you about my mid" Gandy > '02-30 co. "Dirty Thirty" D & B contra bass > Guntersville, Alabama > Go NAVY! Beat Air Force! > > *** USNA-NET post by: GANDY Jonathan Wayne 02-30 GANDY Wayne and Jackie > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: RIISMANDEL Kristen E 00-19 Michael B 03-25 RIISMANDEL Kathy and Jack ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA24807 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:04:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "WQuayle" To: Subject: usna-net: Navy-Army Week Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:03:22 -0500 Organization: Microsoft Corporation charset="Windows-1252" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all: There are also Navy vs. Army swim meets at Lejeune Pool. Women's on Thursday, Dec. 2 at 4p.m., Men on Friday. Kathie Quayle Lisa 03/24 Women's Swimming *** USNA-NET post by: QUAYLE Lisa Marie 03 QUAYLE Wayne and Kathie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA25099 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:13:51 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:14:09 EDT Subject: usna-net: DC Weather Prediction - Updated To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi, all. Sponsor Mom regrets to say that the picture has changed. Here's the Washington Post prediction from Wednesday's paper: Friday Partly sunny High 68 Low 52 Saturday Breezy, shower High 70 Low 56 Sunday Windy, partly sunny High 68 Low 50 Sorry about that. Bring rain gear, wear layers for warmth, BE PREPARED. GO NAVY!! BEAT AIRFORCE!!! Joyce Hoffer, Sponsor Mom, Annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA00998 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:08:11 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" To: "USNA-Plebe" , "USNA-Net" Subject: usna-net: AF-Navy Football Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:08:44 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Here are some good sites for information on this week's game: http://www.airforcesports.com/news/19991004/fbo/19991004.air100499fbc.html http://www.navysports.com/news/1999/10/04/fbo/fbc/939057638001.html Rooting for CIC Lucky 13! Good luck! Gregg *** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA01932 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:41:33 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [208.244.44.58] From: "Teri Sweatman" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Ammuntition for the Navy/Air FOrce game Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 11:42:18 EDT Dear Navy Family, BEAT AIR FORCE!!!! Since I won't be at the game, here is an interesting fact you can share with any Air Force opponents that may get out of hand: The United States Air Force Academy was established by the 83rd Congress on 1 April l954...better known as APRIL FOOL'S DAY!! But please be polite and when you share this fact with them! Teri Sweatman Tom'97 (1st Lt. USMC) Dan '03 22 Northport,(Long Island) NY ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: SWEATMAN Dan 03-22 SWEATMAN Mike and Teri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA02124 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:54:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" To: "Teri Sweatman" , References: <19991006154218.12790.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: Ammuntition for the Navy/Air Force game Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:55:06 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Commander-in-Chief's Trophy: This season marks the 28th year of Commander-in-Chief's Trophy competition between Air Force, Army and Navy. Air Force has dominated the competition, winning 12 trophy titles to just six for Army and five for Navy. Last year, AFA defeated Navy 49-7 in Falcon Stadium and Army 35-7 in West Point, N.Y. The 70-point combined victory margin is the largest in school history. The Falcons have a 35-19-0 all-time CIC record. Army is 23-30-1 while Navy is 22-31-1. Fisher DeBerry has led the Falcons to 10 of the 12 titles and has a 24-6 CIC record. A closer look at the series follows: Team Record Pct. Last Title AFA 35-19-0 .648 1998 Army 23-30-1 .435 1996 Navy 22-31-1 .417 1981 Air Force outright CIC title years: '82, '83, '85, '87, '89, '90, '91, '92, '94, '95, '97, '98 The Falcons have been in possession of the Trophy for all but one year (Army 1996) since 1989. No "Fooling"! ;-) Gregg USAFA, 74 USNA Sponsor, 00, 01, 02 ----- Original Message ----- From: Teri Sweatman To: Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 11:42 AM Subject: usna-net: Ammuntition for the Navy/Air FOrce game Dear Navy Family, BEAT AIR FORCE!!!! Since I won't be at the game, here is an interesting fact you can share with any Air Force opponents that may get out of hand: The United States Air Force Academy was established by the 83rd Congress on 1 April l954...better known as APRIL FOOL'S DAY!! But please be polite and when you share this fact with them! Teri Sweatman Tom'97 (1st Lt. USMC) Dan '03 22 Northport,(Long Island) NY ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: SWEATMAN Dan 03-22 SWEATMAN Mike and Teri *** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA06382 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:55:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jackie Mueller" To: Subject: usna-net: Need 2 NAVY/Air Force tickets Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:57:35 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF0FF1.FA757580" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF0FF1.FA757580 charset="iso-8859-1" This is a last minute call for HELP! We just had a call from our MID - he needs 2 tickets for the Air Force = game! He is almost desperate but not quite since he had one stipulation = - CHEAP tickets! His 16 year old sister & the brother of another MID = are coming to Annapolis for the long weekend. We left all the plans and = arrangements to them. They have handled everything quite well EXCEPT = for the tickets to the football game! This will be our daughter's first trip to Annapolis & USNA; and the = first time to see her brother as a member of the Brigade. I would love = for her to see the 'March On'! Can anyone help? Please contact me directly: soleil@interserv.com We are new members to USNA-Net. Will introduce ourselves later. GO NAVY - BEAT AIR FORCE!! Jackie & Jeff Conroe, TX JAMES, 3rd CO; 2001 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF0FF1.FA757580 charset="iso-8859-1"

This is a last minute call for = HELP!
 
We just had a call from our MID - he needs 2 = tickets=20 for the Air Force game!  He is almost desperate but not quite since = he had=20 one stipulation - CHEAP tickets!  His 16 year old sister & the = brother=20 of another MID are coming to Annapolis for the long weekend.  We = left all=20 the plans and arrangements to them.  They have handled everything = quite=20 well EXCEPT for the tickets to the football game!
 
This will be our daughter's first trip to = Annapolis=20 & USNA; and the first time to see her brother as a member of the=20 Brigade.  I would love for her to see the 'March On'!
 
Can anyone help?  Please contact me=20 directly:  soleil@interserv.com
 
We are new members to USNA-Net.  Will = introduce=20 ourselves later.
 
GO NAVY - BEAT AIR FORCE!!
 
Jackie & Jeff
Conroe, TX
JAMES, 3rd CO; 2001
 
------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF0FF1.FA757580-- *** USNA-NET post by: MUELLER James M 01-3 MUELLER Jeff Battle and Jackie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA17396 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:02:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jackie Mueller" To: "USNA-NET" Subject: usna-net: 2 Tickets to Air Force Located Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:04:29 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005C_01BF1025.3C3C91A0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01BF1025.3C3C91A0 charset="iso-8859-1" To all of you that responded to my last minute plea for Air Force = tickets, a huge THANK YOU. Marrianne Kranker was one of the first to = respond and saved the day with 2 tickets. It is great to know all of you are out there. You guys are great! =20 THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU GO NAVY!!! BEAT AIR FORCE!!! Jackie Mueller Conroe, TX JAMES 03/2001 Flying ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01BF1025.3C3C91A0 charset="iso-8859-1"
To all of you that responded to my last minute plea for Air Force = tickets,=20 a huge THANK YOU.  Marrianne Kranker was one of the first to = respond and=20 saved the day with 2 tickets.
 
It is great to know all of you are out there.  You guys are=20 great! 
 
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU
 
 
GO NAVY!!!   BEAT AIR FORCE!!!
 
 
Jackie Mueller
Conroe, TX
JAMES 03/2001
Flying
------=_NextPart_000_005C_01BF1025.3C3C91A0-- *** USNA-NET post by: MUELLER James M 01-3 MUELLER Jeff Battle and Jackie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA01971 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 21:41:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Robertmcall@aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:39:30 EDT Subject: usna-net: Tailgate To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi Everyone, The plan for the tailgate is to meet at USNA Boathouse (near gate 8) at 0800 Sat. morning and caravan to Redskins Stadium to section D of the parking lot (or the part of the parking lot near Gate D. Everyone is bringing donuts, bagels, coffee, etc. for before the game, and this part should be quick, because we all want to be in our seats for the march-on. After the game, we will be sharing meats, cheeses, rolls, side dishes, and desserts, and the mids can join us then. Everyone is to bring their own drinks, and some extra drinks to share with the mids. Karen Stuart is the one to contact to tell what you will bring: KKStuart@aol.com She plans to have a pole with a blue Navy flag with a gold N, and balloons on top of the pole. Hopefully, the parking lot attendants will allow us to park where we wish, and all this will work. If not, I am not sure what the contingency plan will be. I am really looking forward to meeting all of you who can make it! Sandy McAllister Fallbrook, CA Ryan 03/19 *** USNA-NET post by: MCALLISTER Ryan R 03-19 Bob and Sandy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA02772 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:11:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Fowst@aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:12:08 EDT Subject: usna-net: need 2 Navy /AF tickets To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello, My wife and I have just put together a last minute trip to Annapolis for the weekend. If anyone still has 2 Navy / AF tickets available that they do not need, we would love to make use of them. You can contact us at fowst@aol.com and at fred_stephens@hp.com. You can phone at 970-667-5742 or at work at 970-635-6859. If you can help, we would greatly appreciate it!! Sincerely, Fred Stephens *** USNA-NET post by: STEPHENS David L 03-30 STEPHENS Fred and Janet ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA03505 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:47:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 23:48:14 -0400 From: Jack Riismandel Organization: @Home Network X-Accept-Language: en To: "USNA-NET navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: Two tickets for Navy/Air Force I have two tickets in Scetion 119 (Navy) 30 yard line available. I'll be at the Academy Friday night at women's soccer game, plus you can contact me at jriismandel@home.com directly. *** USNA-NET post by: RIISMANDEL Kristen E 00-19 Michael B 03-25 RIISMANDEL Kathy and Jack ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA04244 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:43:00 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jackie Mueller" To: "USNA-NET" Subject: usna-net: 2 tickets to Air Force Located - Plain Text format Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:44:54 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sandi, many thanks for the 'heads up' about using the 'plain text format' when sending e-mails. Because some of you may not have been able to read my previous message (sent in RTF) I am resending it as I really want all of you to know just how much I appreciated the responses. Jackie ORIGINAL MESSAGE: To all of you that responded to my last minute plea for Air Force tickets, a huge THANK YOU. Marrianne Kranker was one of the first to respond and saved the day with 2 tickets. It is great to know all of you are out there. You guys are great! THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU GO NAVY!!! BEAT AIR FORCE!!! Jackie Mueller Conroe, TX JAMES 2001/ 3rd Co Flying *** USNA-NET post by: MUELLER James M 01-3 MUELLER Jeff Battle and Jackie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA04642 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:07:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Jillsey11@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 01:08:12 EDT Subject: usna-net: Re: Glee Club schedule To: usna-net@navy-usna.org In case anyone lives in the area, my son sent me the glee club schedule for the Columbus Day holiday and following week. Sat. Oct. 9 Furman University Chapel, Greenville SC @ 1800 Sunday First Baptist Church of Greenville @ 1830 Monday Athens GA Pilots Club @ 1830 Wednesday Athens Classic Center @ 1930 He's quite excited about that and his SPIE rigging adventure today. He has a friend with a digital camera, so I was sent a photo of about five of them dangling from a helicopter over the Bay. As I told him, I like to hear about things like that after they're over and I know he survived. What great experiences he is already having! I can't remember when he sounded so excited. Jill Adler Eric 03/14 *** USNA-NET post by: ADLER Eric Jonathan 03-14 ADLER Jill and STEPHEN ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA05498 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 01:20:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Fowst@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 02:21:15 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: need 2 Navy /AF tickets To: Fowst@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Thanks to all! I have an offer for tickets! Thanks, Jack!!! Fred Stephens David '03/30 *** USNA-NET post by: STEPHENS David L 03-30 STEPHENS Fred and Janet ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA08923 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 06:23:20 -0500 (CDT) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 05:54:11 -0500 Subject: usna-net: Airport Transportation (again) X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4-5,8-9 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: P S Schroeder Looking for a person or 2 to share a taxi tonight (Thurs., the 7th) between BWI and Annapolis---- 6-7 pm range. We have a vehicle out there, but need to get to it! Last year we had a firstie who could always find time to pick us up, but Mike is a 2/C and can't leave the yard during the week. :-I Let me know by e-mail or phone (612) 934-2621....thanks! Possibly have to do this in reverse Sunday leaving Annapolis at 4:30, too. (Mike is "on duty" this weekend, so I'm not sure if he can leave the hall.) Penny Schroeder 612-934-2621 ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. *** USNA-NET post by: SCHROEDER Michael J 01-23 James A. 99 -8 SCHROEDER Penny ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA09458 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 06:57:03 -0500 (CDT) From: KKStuart@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:57:32 EDT Subject: usna-net: Re: tailgate To: vcday@bellsouth.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org For all those coming to the tailgate. What started out as a "I'll just throw out some info and whoever wants to come - Great" has now grown into a full-fledged 'WOW" I'm so inadequate to do this!" Anway, I think it's great that we are all getting together. My biggest fear for any large party I give (the largest one being for 450 people in my back yard & I cooked all the food !) is that there won't be enough food. I'm pretty sure it'll be ok. Here's what we have thus far: Deli meats/ Cheese ----- building our own subs Side dishes all sorts Deserts all kinds Soda whoever Rolls What I'm not sure of is if there will be enough of everything. I have about 6 dozen rolls - which I'm sure won't be enough. If you are planning to join us & I haven't assigned you something in particular..... please come & bring something to share. I'm sure not everyone will eat sub sandwiches. I do need more Paper products (plates, napkins - sets of forks) Navy colors of course. Probably sodas, & whatever else people would like. (a few Tables with Navy table cloths would be awesome) I never dreamed we'd grow so large, but AIN'T it great to be alive & living on the listserver?! Meeting place: Most of us are trying to meet at the Academy's Boat house - across the water from the ceremony field - there's a bridge that leads out Gate 8 - youcan't come in that way, but you can leave there. The boat house is on the left. We will meet up before 8am for directions & out by 8:15. I know it's a pain to carpool & caravan, however we have become so large - it may be the only way to assure good parking spots together - trust me we need to be together. Those coming directly to the stadium - we are trying to park close to Gate D and as close to the stadium as possible. Remember, I may be a great Navy wife, but my son is only a plebe & this is only my 3rd Navy tailgate.... Be kind & be patient. Looking forward to meeting you all KKS *** USNA-NET post by: STUART Christopher 03-14 STUART Karen K. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA13716 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:56:19 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:56:59 EDT Subject: usna-net: AF Game on TV/DC Weather To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi All! Sponsor Mom Here. Yesterday's Annapolis Capital reported that the NAVY/AF game will be broadcast on HTS, which my husband says is FOX 5. The local radio stations here will also carry the game, on1430 AM, 1300 AM, and 630 AM (that's AM as opposed to FM, NOT the time.) Check your newspapers to see if you can receive it on YOUR local stations. The Washington Post weather prediction today is BETTER than yesterday's! Friday Sunny, milder High 68 Low 52 Saturday Breezy and warm High 74 Low 56 Sunday Windy High 76 Low 50 GO NAVY!!! BEAT AIR FORCE ON OUR TURF!!! Joyce Hoffer, Annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA13890 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:06:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:06:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: KKStuart@aol.com cc: vcday@bellsouth.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Re: tailgate REPLY In-Reply-To: <0.25f7a4f2.252de4ac@aol.com> How excited I am for all of you who will be meeting for a tailgate and going to the AF/NAVY game. It will be loads of fun. The walk on is very impressive as is just seeing the entire brigade all together. As for the party afterwards...just bring enough food to feed an army...the NAVY! The mids will eat anything that doesn't eat them first. Watch out for those rugby players. They eat like I have never seen. They love those hot wings that are pruchased in Price club or BJ's. They are good as you can serve them cold. Chili is a good one too. Hero's go well and lots to drink. Do not forget your cameras! It is really good to see when my son comes over and picks up his album and looks through all the pictures from his 4 years at USNA. He doesn't show it, but I know he is happy I kept a scrap book of all his goings on. Have a super time at the game and the party. I hope to be watching with the gamg up in Jaxonville.(lots of John's classmates are there) peace and hugs...Jo Oliver John '97 Leesburg FL *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA14706 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:53:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:53:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: web2.po.com: www set sender to rpmadson@pol.net using -f From: Robyn Phillips-madson To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Story from USAFA Here's an unconfirmed story from Colorado Springs: C/Col Jamie Himsl, USAFA Wing Commander, was kidnapped today (10/5) by the exchange midshipmen from the US Naval Academy during noon meal formation. Two mids repelled from the chapel wall while the midshipmen in charge reported in to C/Col Himsl to take over the formation (as planned) with two other mids. A van sped up, the door opened, and the wing commander was thrown inside in front of the entire cadet wing. The midshipmen proceeded to drive around the Terrazzo area and down the Bring Me Men ramp. Later the Wing Commander was found duct taped to the flag pole proudly wearing a white works top with "Go Navy" written across the front and a face mask. Go Navy, Beat AirForce! Walt and Robyn Madson Adam 03/23 Bothell, WA *** USNA-NET post by: MADSON Adam M 03-M MADSON Walt and Robyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA15022 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:15:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Missatty@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:15:52 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Story from USAFA To: rpmadson@pol.net CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org The story of the kidnapping is true!!! My son is an exchange student there and all week has been filled with tales of all the antics going on. Has been great fun. I'm happy to say a jeep full of mids was spotted driving around with the brigade flag flying!!! I do think the Commander-in-Chiefs trophy has been returned to its place. Terre Vardaman John--01-8th Co--this semester in Squad 19 *** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Terre ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA18795 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:18:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: USAFA Speech... Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:17:09 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all, I was sent a copy of a speech made to the Cadets of USAFA in August. Since this is Navy/Air Force week I felt it fitting to pass it along now. It is long and it is intense, but it is given as part of the Commandant's Leadership Series and I felt that it was something that you may like to read. We get links all the time of speeches that are given at the Academy, and many are available on USNA Parents' Club websites, but this is different. It is Air Force, but reflects the same attitudes and hard-won knowledge that our sons and daughters will be exposed to. I feel it is appropriate for us to see the Services as a common bond working toward the same goals. Brigadier General Mark Welsh (the Commandant of Cadets) portrays his insights into combat during the Gulf War. He starts the speech with: "...not long ago I was asked to give a presentation on my personal lessons learned from my experiences in combat....Great lessons I learned I wanted to pass onto future generations and when I finished I had about 15 items, ...and I realized that none of them were lessons learned. Not one of them. Every one of them was a person, or an event, or just a feeling I had. But I have never forgotten, and never will." Please take the time to read this speech. I have read through it many times and still come away with feelings of relief that such caring and considerate men and women are training our sons and daughters. Thank you Penny, for passing this along to me. You will find it on our website: www.navy-usna.org Just click onto the "Family Interests" item on the menu at the left. It is the "USAFA Speech 8/26/99" item near the bottom. Sandi *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA24316 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:19:17 -0500 (CDT) From: LiliaMayer@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:19:50 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Tailgate To: Robertmcall@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi folks, since the weather man is predicting some rain, please come prepared for that eventuality. Central VA veteran parents suggested bringing tarps, nylon string, and lots of ponchos and umbrellas. I had the good fortune of co-hosting the first game with VA Tech, even though I had never done this, with Mr. Dennis on his way. I tied the tarp to the roof of my Suburban, laid everything out, and left the tailgate slightly ajar ( I don't know if you want to do this at such a large stadium). Rain poured down very hard half-way through the game. When I finally got back to my car, I was so glad to find that another family had pulled up back to back with my car, opened their tailgate, and hung the tarp between the two vehicles. This created a lovely tent. The food stayed dry, the mids huddled underneath, and although our feet got soaked, we were still able to "party." As others arrived, they did something similar. We even improvised by holding 3 open umbrellas sid by side. Since the game goes on rain or shine, please come prepared for precipitation. Bring ponchos, umbrellas, and if driving, a tarp. I may or may not be able to stop by because I'm taking my 82 yer old mother with me, and if it is wet, we're going straight to our car. But if the rain holds, we'll try to join you and bring some treats. Oh -- and if you have spare towels, another pair of shoes, socks etc..... I'm sure you know the drill. See ya there and let us pray (metaphorically speaking) to the Rain Gods (using the language of James Webb in one of his speeches to the mids in 1982) that the skies hold their moisture until we have all pulled away! Greetings from Richmond, Lilia Mayer Justin03/07 *** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA24648 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:45:56 -0500 (CDT) From: KKStuart@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:46:19 EDT Subject: usna-net: AF tickets To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I know it's a little late, but my two youngest girls will not be joining us for the game. I now have 2 tickets in Section A available. I think they are directly across from the mids so that you may watch them in action. They were $25 tickets & if anyone needs them let me know. I leave Fri for Annapolis & am staying at the Navy Lodge 410 757-7900. Go Navy Beat Air Force Karen Stuart *** USNA-NET post by: STUART Christopher 03-14 STUART Karen K. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA03537 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:02:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" To: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" , "" References: <033401bf10df$6939a480$9001d4cd@sandi> Subject: Re: usna-net: USAFA Speech... Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:01:09 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I second this recommendation! I personally flew with many of the men Mark Welsh speaks about. Fine men all. Great reading for ANY warrior!! Gregg Fighter Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandi (Stoker) Zets To: Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 12:17 PM Subject: usna-net: USAFA Speech... To all, I was sent a copy of a speech made to the Cadets of USAFA in August. Since this is Navy/Air Force week I felt it fitting to pass it along now. It is long and it is intense, but it is given as part of the Commandant's Leadership Series and I felt that it was something that you may like to read. We get links all the time of speeches that are given at the Academy, and many are available on USNA Parents' Club websites, but this is different. It is Air Force, but reflects the same attitudes and hard-won knowledge that our sons and daughters will be exposed to. I feel it is appropriate for us to see the Services as a common bond working toward the same goals. Brigadier General Mark Welsh (the Commandant of Cadets) portrays his insights into combat during the Gulf War. He starts the speech with: "...not long ago I was asked to give a presentation on my personal lessons learned from my experiences in combat....Great lessons I learned I wanted to pass onto future generations and when I finished I had about 15 items, ...and I realized that none of them were lessons learned. Not one of them. Every one of them was a person, or an event, or just a feeling I had. But I have never forgotten, and never will." Please take the time to read this speech. I have read through it many times and still come away with feelings of relief that such caring and considerate men and women are training our sons and daughters. Thank you Penny, for passing this along to me. You will find it on our website: www.navy-usna.org Just click onto the "Family Interests" item on the menu at the left. It is the "USAFA Speech 8/26/99" item near the bottom. Sandi *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) *** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA06017 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:10:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Katherine Szerdy" To: "usna-net" Subject: usna-net: LIFE & DEATH ? -- MID STORE HOURS??? Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:54:11 -0400 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF10FD.B9B9E000" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF10FD.B9B9E000 charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone know what the Mid-Store hours on a football weekend? Thanks! Kathy / Orlando ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF10FD.B9B9E000 charset="iso-8859-1"
Does anyone know what the Mid-Store = hours on a=20 football weekend?
Thanks!  Kathy /=20 Orlando
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF10FD.B9B9E000-- *** USNA-NET post by: SZERDY Darren 02-11 SZERDY Kathline ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA07071 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 20:10:07 -0500 (CDT) From: KKStuart@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:10:55 EDT Subject: usna-net: Tailgate party listen up To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Everything looks set to go. I have no clue how many are coming & how much food we will have. It's grown so big & so fast, I can't keep up. We are still meeting at the boat house by 8 am. We will leave no later than 8:15 . Have to get to the Stadium by 9 to set up. Still closest to Section D. One problem, however, since we've grown, we need tables. plenty of tables - right now I am bringing all 3 that I own, (had to leave 2 girls behind to fit the tables in) just kidding. Sandi Latham has 2. That won't begin to hold all the food. If you have any table please bring them. WE NEED IT. See you there. Can't wait KKS *** USNA-NET post by: STUART Christopher 03-14 STUART Karen K. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA07940 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 20:27:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Amysoule@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:27:47 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: LIFE & DEATH ? -- MID STORE HOURS??? To: USNAMOM02@worldnet.att.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org Mid Store hours on a football weekend vary. Back in August, a schedule was sent out. On Friday, October 8, the Mid Store will be open from 7:30am - 5:00pm. On Saturday, October 9, the Mid Store will be open from 7:30am - 1:00pm. The hours are more plentiful October 21 - 24 (homecoming weekend), as follows: Thursday, 7:30am - 5:00pm Friday and Saturday, 7:30am - 6:00pm Sunday, 9:00am - 4:00pm. Support the brigade! Go Navy! *** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA10905 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 20:46:07 -0500 (CDT) From: LCSPop@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:46:57 EDT Subject: usna-net: A slight interogatory To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I'm as much of a football fan as the next guy, but don't the other sports deserve as much publicity as football? I'm pretty proud of my LW crew dude. Does anyone go to the regatta's? I'd love to hear some more news about the other sports! Bob ( I promised Jackie Gandy I'd start something over the weekend) Yoon David C. 03/30 LIGHT WEIGHT CREW! *** USNA-NET post by: YOON David C. 03 YOON Robert and Gina ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA13413 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:02:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Sdalziel@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:03:03 EDT Subject: usna-net: helpful tailgater info To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Wish we could join you...... Our son's awesome sponsor sent out the following info on tailgater plans for Sat's game to all his mids, their families & friends....hope it helps... Here's just a small portion of the info JVD writes.... As you know, or will find out, in life the almighty dollar rules! So it does at the Redskins Stadium parking lots. The close to the stadium lots are all permit holders and or club level ticket holders for other events. I personally went to the stadium yesterday, Wednesday, to check this out. The Navy busses will be in B 1 like last year. They told me the lots were going to open 4 hours before the game. If you are looking for something to bring, finger food, ready made sandwiches, anything gooey and sweet for the Mids. Fruit is always good, especially grapes. Hope this additional info helps a little..... Have a GREAT NAVY experience! We'll be watching for those red/white/blue ribbons on FOX TV!!!!! ;-) GO NAVY...BEAT AIR FORCE!!!!! The Dalziel's~~~Ken & Sue Scott 01/26 Nashville, TN *** USNA-NET post by: DALZIEL Scott 01 DALZIEL Ken and Sue ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA20894 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:37:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Jhb317@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 23:38:25 EDT Subject: usna-net: LTWT CREW To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I am happy you brought that up. The crew team has their first meet this Sat in Philadelphia. I sure wish I could be there. Carol Bringhurst 02/19 Josh LTWT CREW TX *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA00636 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 01:31:14 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 02:31:00 EDT Subject: usna-net: You-Know-Whatball Again To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Sponsor Mom here. Apologies in advance to all you parents of mids who play OTHER sports. (My own sons were ruggers, so I understand, really I do.) But the ARMY/Louisville game tonight was a REAL cliffhanger (59-58 final), and I think it portends WELL for NAVY in November in Philadelphia. Army played an option offense similar to ours. Navy's Brian Broadwater is GREAT at calling those plays, and if our defense can figure out Army's offense the way Louisville did, it should be a THRILLING game. Joyce Hoffer, Annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA18553 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 06:24:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 07:40:16 -0400 From: Some Cully To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" CC: venturajr@npt.nuwc.navy.mil Subject: usna-net: available tickets -Navy-Air Force Dear Folks, I now have two tickets available to the game tomorrow. They are in section 123 row 1. Check out the seating chart on www.redskins.com/STADIUM.asp to see where they are located. If interested, e-mail me asap. We will also be at the Navy Lodge tonight. Go Navy, Kathy C. *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA08459 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:45:18 -0500 (CDT) From: USNAMOM03@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:46:03 EDT Subject: usna-net: Crew To: USNA-Net@navy-usna.org I have read a few e-mails regarding the Navy Day regatta scheduled for this weekend in Philadelphia. I am trying to arrange my schedule so that I will be able to attend but when I checked the Navy sports website they don't give a time just all day. Since I have never been to a crew race, I am not sure what time this starts or ends. If anyone out there can give me some help with this I would greatly appreciate it. Go Navy!! Loretta Napierkowski Christopher 03/16 Philadelphia,PA *** USNA-NET post by: NAPIERKOWSKI Christopher 03-16 NAPIERKOWSKI Loretta ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA09122 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:27:01 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:27:49 EDT Subject: usna-net: GLORIOUS day in Annapolis! To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi All You NAVY folks! Sponsor Mom here. It is going to be a FABULOUS day for the game tomorrow, as it is warm and sunny today, and they are predicting a high of 76 for Saturday -- I'll bet it goes higher! The sky is a wonderful shade of blue, there are white, wispy clouds, and the town looks stunning! I had planned to go down to the Yard around 12:30 to watch the plebes hang off the rigging of a Marine copter today. About noon, when I stepped out of the shower, I heard helicopters in the distance. Not wanting to miss anything, I threw on my clothes, grabbed my camera and drove downtown, still with wet hair. Was lucky to find a parking place on King George Street. I made it into Gate 1 by 12:20, and crossed to the Marine outside the box to ask directions. "For your own safety, Ma'am please step over to the sidewalk." "But I just want to know....." "PLEASE step across to the sidewalk, Ma'am." I crossed over and hollered my question at him. He directed me to the field facing the Chesapeake. There, some plebes told me that the exercise was FINISHED YESTERDAY. (The copters I heard were either Press, taking pictures of the Boat Show from the air, or tourists, who are being ferried over it for $$$.) So I missed it! But I met some AF parents who are in from Boulder, CO., to see their cadet and the game. They had never been to Annapolis before, and were totally impressed with the city. I told them I had traded the mountains for the sea when we moved here from Denver last year. Nice trade!! As I exited Gate 1, there were 2 groups of women who came from the Yard, used the island to cross to the sidewalk. That Marine never said a WORD to them! The boat show is AWESOME, in the word used by our Sponsor Sons. THOUSANDS of boats are now moored in the harbor, by floating docks. I did take pictures of the masts against the blue sky. Later, I walked through the back streets of the Historic Area and took more photos of colorful doors and porches with flowers and pumpkins. I saw rooftop gardens I had never looked up and noticed before. Started my Christmas shopping at the pottery on the Circle. Hope this has added some "atmosphere" for those of you who aren't in town for the weekend, and that you'll be able to take advantage some other time. GO NAVY!!! BEAT AIR FORCE ROYALLY!!! I'm off to get ready to see our '02 Sponsor Sons' parents tonight and '03's tomorrow. Joyce Hoffer, Annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA10024 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:14:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 13:15:21 -0700 From: Mary Irwin To: JWHEnterp@aol.com CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: You-Know-Whatball Again References: <0.5ced02cf.252ee9a4@aol.com> To Joyce and all; Not only was it an exciting football game, especially the overtime periods, but while the T.V. cameras were panning the West Point section guess what stood out amongst the drab gray and black of the Cadet's uniforms.......a Midshipman in his blue coat and white cover. He seemed to be enjoying himself, even if he was routing for Army?. After all, just like families, Cadets and Midshipman can fight and argue over who is the biggest, toughest and the best, but when it comes to a non family group coming in and trying to take over and win, we all come together as one. Now after saying that, BEAT AIR FORCE and JV Football BEAT NAPS. Gary & Mary Irwin Joseph 03/25 Culver City, CA JV Football JWHEnterp@aol.com wrote: > Sponsor Mom here. > Apologies in advance to all you parents of mids who play OTHER sports. > (My own sons were ruggers, so I understand, really I do.) But the > ARMY/Louisville game tonight was a REAL cliffhanger (59-58 final), and I > think it portends WELL for NAVY in November in Philadelphia. > Army played an option offense similar to ours. Navy's Brian Broadwater > is GREAT at calling those plays, and if our defense can figure out Army's > offense the way Louisville did, it should be a THRILLING game. > Joyce Hoffer, Annapolis > > *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: IRWIN Joseph F 03-25 IRWIN Gary and Mary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA00388 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 20:46:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 19:42:37 -0600 Subject: usna-net: GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE NAVY TEAMS ! From: "LeRoy Gravseth" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org A reminder that Navy Sprint Football is also playing tomorrow at Pottsville PA agains the Army ! We wishing all the Navy teams, Football, JV Football, Sprint Football, Mens and Womens Rugby, Crew, Swinming, and any other NAVY teams that are playing tomarrow, GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!!!!!!! GO NAVY BEAT EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!! May Tomarrow truely be a great Navy Day. LeRoy & Conchita Gravseth 98, 00, 02 Poplar Bluff, MO *** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA07306 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 22:24:26 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 23:25:08 EDT Subject: usna-net: Sponsors. Tickets. To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi, All. Sponsor Mom Here. Forgot to tell you that I walked into the ticket office on the Yard today and easily purchased tickets for the Akron/Homecoming game, the Tulane game, and the Halloween organ concert. As of today, there were lots of available seats for all three. A big sign, however, announced ARMY/NAVY GAME SOLD OUT. This evening, our two original '02 mids brought their parents over to say Hello, one with a brother and sister in tow. THIS is what the Sponsor Program is all about. After only a year, we are on "hugging terms." It is so great to see them again, and we had so much to tell each other. The brother and sister have invites to stay here if they ever come up alone to visit. BOTH Moms say they knew nothing about this network and want the address, so they too can participate. I even found out that both BOYS had done the SPIE Rigging last year, and neither had mentioned it to me OR to their Moms! The Mid from Florida came back to Annapolis this Fall with 12 frozen lobster tails for us, and a promise to cook them himself. I said we'd add the steaks for a surf and turf. The Mid from Missouri immediately volunteered to cook the Western-style goodies on the grill for our own SUPER surf and turf dinner. What great guys! (Almost like having my own three sons home again.) Now to find a time when ALL the boys can come together! GO NAVY! BEAT EM UP!!! Joyce Hoffer, Sponsor Mom, Annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA07678 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 22:52:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Spie Rigging Photos Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 23:51:01 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all, For those Moms out there that are still curious about what your Mids are doing on an average Wednesday Afternoon... Check out the photos of the Spie Rigging on our Website's Photo Gallery under SPIE Photos. Thanks to those members that sent them along. See the Page for the names and email address of the photograph donors. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA15306 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:57:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Sdalziel@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 06:58:35 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Sponsors. Tickets. To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Thank You Joyce,,,,and to all the other Sponsors.... The love and support that you all provide for our Mids so far away from home is so wonderful...and so very appreciated!!!! THANK YOU...THANK YOU...THANK YOU... Sue & Ken Dalziel Scott 01/26 Nashville *** USNA-NET post by: DALZIEL Scott 01 DALZIEL Ken and Sue ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA19366 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 07:47:00 -0500 (CDT) From: JOESEBAGO@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 08:47:52 EDT Subject: usna-net: Waiting for Game To: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello All, While waiting for the game to start here is an interesting site to visit: http://www.usmc.mil/ There is a brief bibliography of the new Commandant and for all you music lovers there is also thirty-eight tracks which can be downloaded from a new CD. This is performed by, "The President's Own," good tunes to get everyone psyched up for today's victory! I hope whomever visits enjoys. Semper Fi, Joe Fraser Joe Fraser 03/05 *** USNA-NET post by: FRASER Joseph C 03-C FRASER Joe and Elaine ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA20318 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:04:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "The Kerchevals" To: Subject: usna-net: D&B Results? Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:06:22 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <0.894c4f00.25309378@aol.com> Has anyone heard from their D&Bers about yesterday's results? I know they have put in EXTRA time preparing the competition(Is that an oxymoron when you already are putting in 30 hour days?:-) PaulaK Houston, TX Jason 02/18 Christy 03/14 *** USNA-NET post by: KERCHEVAL Jason T 02-18 Christy L 03-14 KERCHEVAL Rick and Paula ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA20616 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:24:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 09:24:54 -0500 From: susy tuthill Organization: MediaOne To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: a bet To my Navy family (and lovers of English Lit), My plebe son informed me of a bet he made concerning today's game against Air Force. If at any time during the game, Navy is winning, his second class has to perform Hamlet's soliloquy on Radford Terrace between fifth and sixth period. If Navy is never winning, James and his squad have to perform the death scene from Hamlet at lunch in front of everyone! The bet is a result of James having to drink a BEAT AIR FORCE at lunch on Thursday. He said he only made it half way before it came back. His particular concoction was made of everything on the table, including ranch dressing, thousand island dressing, maple syrup, milk, corn, tabasco sauce, pepper sauce, A-1, mustard, peanut butter, salt, pepper, guacamole,rice, and other things. Hmmmmmmm... I thought this might enhance your enjoyment of watching the Navy-Air Force game! GO NAVY! GRAB THE LEAD! Susy Tuthill Chicago James 03-8 Ball *** USNA-NET post by: TUTHILL James G 03-8 TUTHILL Susy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA20681 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:25:29 -0500 (CDT) From: CMears4@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:26:22 EDT Subject: usna-net: Other sports! To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Yes, Bob and lonely others! You and I will be home watching THE GAME, thinking about all those lucky people at the tailgating party. Infact, they are probably all set up as I write this and they are probably enjoying donuts and coffee, discussing the joys of the net! They will also be getting ready to watch the mids march on! I will be setting the VCR as I get ready to go about my other parenting duties. We still have one taking SAT's this morning, one in Boy Scouts and one helping with the church yard sale. I can't wait to see if I can spot my mid in the bridge formed by her brigade where the football players run in. I think that is a long shot!! Now if only the crowd could move over to the softball "stadium" tomorrow to watch our fabulous Women's softball team! One of the coaches from another team came over and told our coach that he would gladly take the navy team any day compared to his team of girls who were RECRUITED for softball! He said, our Navy girls, who play only because they love the game, have more spirit and more determination than he has ever seen on a team. He was VERY impressed! His team of recruited girls were beat by our own unrecruited Navy women! GO NAVY! Compliments like those are what keep the women plugging away at the books, the military agenda, and the sport they love!! I'm sure the crew teams, the soccer teams and all the other sports that I don't even know about, have the same tremendously determined players on them. What a terrific experience to wear not only the Navy uniform, but a Navy sports uniform! Caryn (helping Bob keep the net alive while everyone is away) Mears, WA Mollie Mears, 03-21 *** USNA-NET post by: MEARS Mollie Ann 03 MEARS Caryn L. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA20881 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:39:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Sdalziel@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:40:23 EDT Subject: usna-net: USNA Special To: usna-net@navy-usna.org CC: buoy22@home.com Hi All... There's a USNA Special on the History Channel right now in the Nashville area...how it's in yours too...History of the USNA... GO NAVY....BEAT AIR FORCE.....AND THEN ARMY TOO!! ;-) Sue Dalziel Scott 01/26 Nashville *** USNA-NET post by: DALZIEL Scott 01 DALZIEL Ken and Sue ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA21086 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:51:21 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pam Mann" To: Subject: usna-net: D&B Results Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:53:53 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 My daughter wrote this sad news last night concerning D&B. Pam Mann Columbus, OH Joelle 03/11 We tied (USAF) with a score of 89.5. According to the judges they had the best: drumline, pit, and horn section and had just a snazzy general effect. I think they're deaf. Even the Commandant said we were robbed. We'll just have to smash them tomorrow in football, rugby, wrestling, and everything else. The D&B rematch will be at Airforce next year. Joelle *** USNA-NET post by: MANN Joelle Jenssine 03-11 Mann Pam ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA21152 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:55:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "The Kerchevals" To: Subject: RE: usna-net: D&B Results? Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:57:07 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <000101bf125f$784d7b00$0fab1a3f@default> Got my own answer. My Youngster called from outside the Stadium to tell me the D&B contest ended in a tie - he thinks the final score was 87.9-87.9. He doesn't think that has ever happened before and there is no tie breaker in the scoring system. Now they have to figure out what to do with the trophy! Thought you other D&B parents might like to know. Paula K Houston, TX Jason 02/18 Christy 03/14 > -----Original Message----- > From: The Kerchevals [mailto:kercheval_hou@msn.com] > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 9:06 AM > To: usna-net@navy-usna.org > Subject: usna-net: D&B Results? > > > Has anyone heard from their D&Bers about yesterday's results? I know they > have put in EXTRA time preparing the competition(Is that an oxymoron when > you already are putting in 30 hour days?:-) > PaulaK > Houston, TX > Jason 02/18 > Christy 03/14 > > > > *** USNA-NET post by: KERCHEVAL Jason T 02-18 Christy L 03-14 > KERCHEVAL Rick and Paula > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > > *** USNA-NET post by: KERCHEVAL Jason T 02-18 Christy L 03-14 KERCHEVAL Rick and Paula ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA22478 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:54:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 11:46:16 -0400 From: Steve Fitzkee Organization: GFMI X-Accept-Language: en To: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: First Grading Period The silence, especially among Plebe Parents, on this subject has been deafening. For oldsters, could you shed some light on relationship of these grades to 1st Semester final grades, if the Academy is big on "sending messages" with early grades, and what is considered Ok or whatever. As to Plebe parents, we heard about these on Wednesday, well before learning about Spie Rigging. Are your Plebes talking or being mum on the subject until you raise it with them. Thanks to everyone for all of the interesting news on the nets! *** USNA-NET post by: FITZKEE William F 03-13 FITZKEE Steve and Jennie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA22567 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:57:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 11:49:30 -0400 From: Steve Fitzkee Organization: GFMI X-Accept-Language: en To: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: Egads... Egads...I'm sitting here waiting for the game to come on and forgot to close my last properly: Go Navy ~ Beat Air Force *** USNA-NET post by: FITZKEE William F 03-13 FITZKEE Steve and Jennie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA26712 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:10:31 -0500 (CDT) From: "Norton Smiley" To: "usna net" Cc: References: <37FF6347.E61E7F7D@erols.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: First Grading Period Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:14:10 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Regarding Recent Grades: The grades just received are mid-term grades for the first semester. Their purpose is to let the mids know how they are doing so far and to allow them time to arrange for extra help if they are having any difficulties. My firstie uses them to re-establish his study priorities. He already knows he has taken two additional quizzes that had excellent results so he knows his mid terms are off target already. According to my mid, they rarely reflect what the first semester grade will be; they are just an indication as to what action, if any, a mid needs to take. Norton Smiley Devin, '00/22nd Westport, CT ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Fitzkee To: Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 11:46 AM Subject: usna-net: First Grading Period > The silence, especially among Plebe Parents, on this subject has been > deafening. For oldsters, could you shed some light on relationship of > these grades to 1st Semester final grades, if the Academy is big on > "sending messages" with early grades, and what is considered Ok or > whatever. As to Plebe parents, we heard about these on Wednesday, well > before learning about Spie Rigging. Are your Plebes talking or being > mum on the subject until you raise it with them. Thanks to everyone for > all of the interesting news on the nets! > > > *** USNA-NET post by: FITZKEE William F 03-13 FITZKEE Steve and Jennie > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > > *** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton and Harriet ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA27221 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:34:49 -0500 (CDT) Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal To: "USNA-Net" From: "Jo Anne Mitzen" Subject: usna-net: 6-week grades Date: Sat, 09 Oct 99 13:36:14 PDT It is my understanding that if, in any 6-week grading period, a Mid has below a 2.0 average then he/she is Non-weekend eligible for the next 6-weeks. Also, each company's combined average is figured out & companies with higher averages have bragging rights plus a few perks, I'm sure. In a company, if a Plebe or Youngster get an UNSAT (meaning that they are in academic difficulty) then the Second Class (& Firsties?) in that company do one-on-ones to help the Mid in that particular subject. Joe is helping out some Plebes in 16/Co with Calc and another subject but I forget what it was. This kind of academic challenge cannot compare to a civilian college. It is rough! Anything above a 2.0 is certainly an accomplishment, especially during Plebe year (in my opinion anyway - sure freshmen at other colleges are "adjusting" but Mids are adjusting to a whole new way of thinking & being.) I am still amazed when Joe writes about what his schedule for the day involves. What organizational skills they must have to survive in the Brigade of Midshipmen! And when they need help it is ALWAYS available. It seems that they truly want each other to succeed (altho the Plebes don't always see it that way!) Otherwise, I'm not savvy to how the actual semester grade is calculated but there is a breakdown in "Brief Points" Go Navy! Jo Anne Nesquehoning, PA *** USNA-NET post by: MITZEN Joseph B 01-16 MITZEN Jo Anne and Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA27729 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:56:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Sdalziel@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:57:29 EDT Subject: usna-net: cable went out :-( To: usna-net@navy-usna.org OH NO....... The beginning of the 2nd half of this totally dominated, awesome NAVY game...and our cable has gone out!!!!! GO NAVY...GO NAVY...GO NAVY...... Sue (Stressing over downed satellite feed) Dalziel Scott 01/26 Nashville, TN *** USNA-NET post by: DALZIEL Scott 01 DALZIEL Ken and Sue ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA28105 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:33:21 -0500 (CDT) From: LCSPop@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:34:11 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: First Grading Period To: sfitzkee@erols.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org My son David told me what his grades were and said he knew now where he needed to brush up in order to make the 'Dant's list (at the very minimum). He rarely has time to talk, and when he does, he wants to talk about stuff other than grades and junk. So much has changed for him, yet so much remains the same (he's always been silent about school, even when he was a Merit Scholar in High School). He says that they are so busy, he doesn't know how anyone finds the time to do anything but study. Chins up parents...I'm sure there are more things that we don't know about, than things we do...and it will probably remain that way for many more years to come. Bob (thinking that no news could be good news) Yoon David C. 03/30 LtWt Crew Bakersfield, CA GO NAVY! *** USNA-NET post by: YOON David C. 03 YOON Robert and Gina ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA02436 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:41:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Janet Ferrara To: "'USNA Net'" Subject: usna-net: Football ticket question Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:41:56 -0700 What an exciting game, but I am curious why it seemed hard to get tickets for the game we just watched on TV, but there appeared to be hundreds of empty seats? Is there something about that particular stadium-that they didn't want to fill the stands? Go Navy, Beat Army! Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, CA Webmaster for USNA Parents' Club of Southern California www.web2000.com/usnapcsc Michael, Class of 2000, Co. 15 *** USNA-NET post by: FERRARA Michael 00 FERRARA Janet & Tom ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA08352 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 16:10:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "USNANET" Subject: usna-net: :-( loss Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 16:10:43 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Oh my 19 to 14 Navy lost. Oh well. Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA08486 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 16:24:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Air force game... Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 17:22:38 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I just got off the phone with my son, who tells me that he was featured in the Walk-On that was carried on one of the local TV channels. He tells me that some of the D&B actually saw him. Fox did not televise the walk-on, so we did not see this. If anyone who lives locally taped the game and got any footage of the walk-on, please let me know. I would love a copy. He was even featured on the overhead screen several times!! I KNEW we should have gone!! :>) He tells me that they are all, obviously, disappointed by the loss - but are also more than ever resolved to beat Army!! It was an exciting game from start to finish...guess you can't ask for more (other than a win) from a game. They never gave up and fought till the final second. Just what we expect from our Mids!! So I say, job well done!! Sandi Westlake, OH *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA08944 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 17:07:57 -0500 (CDT) From: CMears4@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 18:07:34 EDT Subject: usna-net: Football To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Sue mentioned that her cable went out. We had the same problem at half time here in WA. We had to leave at half time, but left the vcr running and luckily it came back on later, so we got to see the rest of this awesome game. What a fabulous effort they made right up to the last second!!! Caryn Mears, WA Mollie Mears, 03-21 *** USNA-NET post by: MEARS Mollie Ann 03 MEARS Caryn L. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA09160 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 17:21:46 -0500 (CDT) From: "Stephen C. Sims" To: Subject: usna-net: JV Football... Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 17:16:20 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A2_01BF127A.00FDB400" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01BF127A.00FDB400 charset="iso-8859-1" Hello list... While the varsity look awesome in their efforts against Air Force, all = us plebe JV footballer's are left in the lurch with no coverage of the = NAPS game on Friday PM...anyone got any info on the game...score would = be good...stats would be welcome... Steve and Mary Sims Chandler 03/18 Oklahoma City, Oklahoma ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01BF127A.00FDB400 charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello list...
 
While the varsity look awesome in their = efforts=20 against Air Force, all us plebe JV footballer's are left in the lurch = with no=20 coverage of the NAPS game on Friday PM...anyone got any info on the = game...score=20 would be good...stats would be welcome...
 
Steve and Mary Sims
Chandler 03/18
Oklahoma City, = Oklahoma
------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01BF127A.00FDB400-- *** USNA-NET post by: SIMS Stephen C 03-18 SIMS Mary and Steve ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA10685 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 17:37:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" To: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" , "" References: <023c01bf129c$6ecba060$be01d4cd@sandi> Subject: Re: usna-net: Air force game... Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 18:33:08 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sandy, Yes. We saw Michael in several Cameos on the JumboTron. Carrie was poking me during the National Anthem. She was saying, I bet Sandi is proud watching this on TV! Gregg ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandi (Stoker) Zets To: Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 5:22 PM Subject: usna-net: Air force game... I just got off the phone with my son, who tells me that he was featured in the Walk-On that was carried on one of the local TV channels. He tells me that some of the D&B actually saw him. Fox did not televise the walk-on, so we did not see this. If anyone who lives locally taped the game and got any footage of the walk-on, please let me know. I would love a copy. He was even featured on the overhead screen several times!! I KNEW we should have gone!! :>) He tells me that they are all, obviously, disappointed by the loss - but are also more than ever resolved to beat Army!! It was an exciting game from start to finish...guess you can't ask for more (other than a win) from a game. They never gave up and fought till the final second. Just what we expect from our Mids!! So I say, job well done!! Sandi Westlake, OH *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) *** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA11056 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 17:54:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Amysoule@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 18:55:35 EDT Subject: usna-net: Fencing To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Would the person who sent an earlier transmission about fencing please contact me. Thank you. Amy Soule *** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA15982 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:35:05 -0500 (CDT) From: NevesPK@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:35:58 EDT Subject: usna-net: Score in Pottsville? To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Anyone know what the score in the Sprint Football game was? thanks! pamela douglas 02/22 sprint football/track *** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA16531 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:20:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 21:27:33 -0400 From: Bob Quinlan X-Accept-Language: en To: "'USNA-NET'" , NevesPK@aol.com Subject: usna-net: Sprint Football Navy won 12-10 vs. Army. Navy blocked a 21 yard Army FG try with 11 seconds to go to win. For full story go to www. pottsville.com and click on sports update *** USNA-NET post by: QUINLAN Kevin R 03 QUINLAN Bob ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25770 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:33:04 -0500 (CDT) From: KKStuart@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:33:55 EDT Subject: usna-net: Tailgate To: usna-net@navy-usna.org well, I just dropped a bunch of mids back to the Yard. Whew, what a tailgate. I just want to say, "Thank you !" to all who participated in, what I bet, was the best ever usa -net tailgate paraty. It was great to put faces to names. I just wished we all had written down our email address on the nametags. I have no clue still, who some of you were because I didn't recognize an email address. Here, I was so worried that it wasn't going to turn out, and yet, it exceeded my expectations, and I hope yours, also. Even the caravan to the stadium wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. As for the left over food??? There really wasn't that much, when I started to sort it out. We had a few pounds of meats & Chees left, rolls and bags of chips. Donuts, brownies, & cookies. I had 5-6 mids take it back & distribute it between the different wardrooms. I have no clue who got what, I just know it will be eaten. We could not have asked for a better day - the weather held til the very last, and wow! what an exciting game. All in all I thought it was a great success. Again, thanks to all of you great Moms & Dad., siblings, and sponsors who helped make it a great time for all. Now what about homecoming? Fly Navy KKS *** USNA-NET post by: STUART Christopher 03-14 STUART Karen K. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA26172 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:06:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: mbt2@mail.psu.edu Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 23:04:16 -0400 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org From: Mary Beth Tsikalas Subject: usna-net: tailgate Karen, THANK YOU for all of your work to make the tailgate happen, and happen so well! Mary Beth Altoona, PA *** USNA-NET post by: TSIKALAS Emanuel M 03-21 Mike and Mary Beth ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA26498 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:49:25 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 23:50:18 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: tailgate To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I too want to add a BIG thank you to Karen et al...but especially Karen...we are finally home here in Phila. and tomorrow will give you all a run down on our take of the tailgate and game.....BUT...suffice it to say that my husband said it was the MOST fun he's ever had at a tailgate.....what a great group!!! Dindy *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA26811 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 23:17:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Jhb317@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 00:18:48 EDT Subject: usna-net: LTWT CREW RESULTS To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Navy 1st Boat 1st Place Navy 2nd Boat 3rd Place Navy 3rd Boat 4th Place WAY TO GO CREW! I have not heard how the heavy weights and ladies did. Carol Bringhurst 02/19 Josh LTWT CREW Houston, TX *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA21122 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 07:52:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "francis1" To: Subject: usna-net: Sunday Morning in Annapolis Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:01:33 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Good Morning All.... Its a rainy day in Annapolis, traffic is bound to be very bad with the boat show and rain...... Temp in the mid 50's...... Hope everyone is recovered from a Great Game and Great Attempt yesterday.....15-19 a great game from start to finish.... Francis & Carol, Quincy 03'/10 Pittsbutgh, PA, from Days Inn Annapolis... *** USNA-NET post by: HOCHARD Quincy W 03-10 HOCHARD Francis and Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA03339 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:03:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Sdalziel@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:03:51 EDT Subject: usna-net: hello out there......... To: usna-net@navy-usna.org hello.....hello...hello............ jeez......it's so strangely quiet out there......... Miss you guys! Sue Nashville *** USNA-NET post by: DALZIEL Scott 01 DALZIEL Ken and Sue ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA03363 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:03:25 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:04:16 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Navy/AirForce Tailgate! To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Picture this!!! We had planned to leave our home in the Phila. area early in the morning....having attended last year's Notre Dame game at Jack Kent Cooke..we decided that the earlier the better....as usual, a few tasks conspired to delay us.... The main one being that Friday night had been spent dousing our two dogs with tomato juice and washing them until about 1am.....yes.....on their evening outing they had been 'skunked'......what a smell....and because it happened right across the street....the whole house permeated with that lovely odor...so we slept later than originally planned.....We did manage to leave by 8am and 'sped' (always within the speed limits, natch) to Jack Kent Cooke....One thing we did do right, as it turned out was to pre buy a parking pass.....not only did we save money, but it enabled us to park near to the stadium instead of way out in the boonies!!!! We found a good spot in section E...not too far from where we would be entering....and hopefully not too far from THE 'tailgate'......We grabbed our contribution and started toward gate D to find the Net-gate........We didn't have to walk far....There they were.....10 foot pole....flags and balloons....It must be them.....and as I approached I spied a red/white and blue ribbon attached to a name tag.....I knew I'd found the 'Net.....The caravan had been so smart....they had backed their cars into the spaces.....and occupied two rows so that there was an avenue of tables down the center....already, the tablecloths and flowers were decorating the 24 feet of tables!!! And there were doughnuts, croissant, bagels, and all kinds of goodies to greet us.....and even a celebratory bloody mary if so desired!!! It wasn't long before more and more people arrived.....and all too soon we packed the food back into the waiting cars and ventured into the stadium for the march on and the game.....Jack Kent Cooke is BIG but somehow lends a feeling of closeness to the field and the game....it is actually more intimate than our Home stadium.....Finally, the Brigade marched on.....they looked so bright and wonderful in their whites ( they change to SDB's on Tuesday, my son tells me).....And then the flyovers....yep.....that's a plural....first a stealth fighter silently buzzed the field...It was so interesting because you really didn't hear very much until afterward and they were quite a distance away.....and then a formation of 4 jets (some expert will have to tell what they were, although I do know that some were tomcats and some were prowlers) and the another formation of two more.....the crowd anticipation mounted and they cheered triumphantly as each flew by.........According to my program, .Midn 1/c Zachary Herzberger sang the National Anthem.....what struck me right away (when we talk about differences between service academies and 'regular' colleges) was that when Zachary started to sing it was very evident that his mike wasn't working....but he did not stop and the crowd did not let him hang in the wind.. The crowd sang and each word of the song became stronger and louder...until somehow you realized that the crowd did what it could do to send the message .... Our young men do not stand alone......that we are ALL a part of each other......I really gave me chills......Suffice to say the game had it's ups and downs.....the first half Navy really dominated (don't any experts get on me.....I don't know what I'm talking about in football, but I do think the fact that AF did not earn a first down in the first half.....).The second half did not end the way we had hoped but it was definitely one of the more exciting games I've ever seen......and except for a few blunders the game would have been Navy's......But it was thrilling right up to the last second!!!! We were able to connect with our son and told him to bring his friends to the 'Net-gate" .......After the game we rushed out and reset the tables.....everyone helped, there was SO much food...(Karen need not have EVER worried)......and such a great variety!!!!....and then the parents awaited the Mids....and came they did....reuniting with many of their parents.....coming with their friends....swarms of them....to devour the food.....to regale us with stories......for us to hug them and see them and connect once again......My son, being a firstie, did what many firsties do.....changed into civilian clothes as fast as he could!!! and then he gathered about 6 of his friends and announced their arrival from the back of a pickup.........well, some would have been embarrassed.....I wasn't though.....they are enthusiastic and fun loving kids... they greeted everyone......talked to as many people as they could between mouthfuls...and had a glorious time......Some one did take a picture of me with some of 'my mids' I don't remember who, but I hope it comes out!!!!...These mids are friends of my son's from his Plebe summer....and even though now they are in different companies ('00 was shot-gunned)....they have remained good friends this whole time.....and they have come here often ....so that by now I consider them 'mine'.......Just as the rain started to fall we packed up what food was left....and Karen kindly provided it for mids to take back with them....and Peter (husband) and Peter (son) and I set off to BWI to pick up my daughter....The day was such a Great pleasure......to meet so many friends from near and far.....to talk face to face with those who have only been identified by names....to find faces and personalities and smiles and friendship.....in so many people.......in such a wonderful surrounding ...........thanks so much to those who worked so hard to set up and tear down the Net-gate......and to those who came from so far away......I mean....can you believe. .. We were represented by Washington and Colorado and California among the farthest......it was FANTASTIC............ Dindy Liebert Peter 00/25 *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA05819 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:23:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: References: <0.c6e9cba9.25326760@aol.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: Navy/AirForce Tailgate! Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:23:53 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Thanks Dindy, I too was beginning to wonder about the silence. Funny how one always assumes that their "server" must be "down" when the Net is quiet. To all those who open the tailgates to the hungry Mids, THANKS, you are appreciated by the MidMom's and MidDad's who are too far away or who's schedules don't allow. Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA07337 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:34:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: usna-net: hello out there......... Date: Sun, 10 Oct 99 18:41:44 +0100 x-sender: madskier@pop.efortress.com From: Jake Cahalan To: , I agree. First time ever there were no messages....strangely quiet. madskier *** USNA-NET post by: CAHALAN Jacob J 03-25 CAHALAN James and Janice ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA11375 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:29:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Jillsey11@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:30:37 EDT Subject: usna-net: Another tailgate To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Do you think 24 hours later is too early to respectfully ask whether anyone is thinking about a tailgate for the homecoming game? I have managed to change my tickets from this weekend to homecoming weekend and would love to be involved in one. By the way, my son, whose glee club trip changed my plans, said the glee club is singing up a storm in South Carolina. They sang at Furman last night, did two church services this morning and are singing again tonight. I'm sure he's gotten all sorts of homework done . Jill Adler Eric 03/14 *** USNA-NET post by: ADLER Eric Jonathan 03-14 ADLER Jill and STEPHEN ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA11794 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:55:31 -0500 (CDT) From: PortCD@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:56:21 EDT Subject: usna-net: Navy/AirForce Tailgate To: usna-net@navy-usna.org What a great weekend this has been. We just arrived home having driven off and on in the rain and being delayed in traffic due to an accident on the Woodrow Wilson Bridge on the Beltway around Washington, D.C. Normally a 5 hour trip turned into a 6 hour trip, but we are back home safe and sound in North Carolina. A special thank you goes out to Karen Stuart and Sandi Latham for arranging the tailgate and getting us organized. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! We all met up at 8:00 am at the USNA boathouse near gate 8 to caravan to the stadium. You should have seen our caravan. I would guesstimate that we had about 16 to 18 vehicles in the caravan. When we got to the stadium, there was a little confusion over which parking lot to go in. As would have it, we went into the D parking lot only to be told that we had to move to the E parking lot, so the parking lot attendants helped us cross the traffic to the correct parking area. We set up our vehicles so that we could arrange our tables between the cars as Dindy has already described and had a wonderful breakfast and time getting to know one another in person. It was so great to be able to put names with faces and also meet others who do more reading like myself than posting. Around 11:00 we put the left over breakfast foods in our cars and proceeded into the stadium for the march on. The game was an exciting match up and we almost won as those of you at home were able to also see. I for one was stunned at the end of the game to look up and see that time had expired. It was heart breaking to see some of our football players crying after having given it their all on the field. They tried so hard and deserve a big round of applause and praise for their effort. The fly over was awe inspiring. I had never seen a stealth bomber and was not expecting to see it fly over as it was not listed in the program. Amazingly quiet and sleek, what a remarkable fying machine. After the march on, the mids took their places in the stands and proceeded to play with their new "toys" --a "rally rag" and a whistle. Some of you watching on TV may have seen the white hand towels being twirled to rally our players or cheer them when they scored. They will also have more "toys" at the Army/Navy game in December. Since the plebes were unable to do pushups on the field when Navy scored, the cheerleaders did the push ups. We have a great group of cheerleaders, you should see the acrobatic stunts that are being performed. WOW! After the game and after the playing of The Blue & Gold and the Air Force song in recognition of an outstanding game between two great teams. We proceeded back to the parking lot to set up for the after game tailgate. Everyone brought lots of food and had food to send back to the ward rooms with their mids. My mid said he would get fat if he didn't share all the cookies and goodies that I left with him. Thanks to everyone for being so kind to my Air Force cadet who attended the tailgate. Yes I am the one with the zoomie with me. He grew up with my son from the nursery at our church. Pete (Air Force) and Jacob (Navy) have always been somewhat competive and Jacob had so hoped that this would be the year that Navy beat Air Force since Pete was coming to the Academy with the Air Force contingent. Pete had a great time and appreciated being allowed to eat with our mids. It was great seeing all those white uniforms around our tailgate tables along with those mids (upperclass) who were in their civies (they just can't wait to get out of those uniforms after their military obligation is done). My family had a great time and look forward to future tailgates with our new found friends. Thanks again Sandi and Karen for all the time and effort you put into making this tailgate possible. See you at the Navy/Akron game in a couple of weeks. GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY! Cathy Portaro, Durham, NC Jacob 01/01 *** USNA-NET post by: PORTARO Jacob Daniel 01-1 PROTARO Dan and Cathy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA23686 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:36:46 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [63.22.213.252] From: "Clyde Pratt" To: LCSPop@aol.com, sfitzkee@erols.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: First Grading Period Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:36:14 PDT You're right, but that's what worries me most!! I want only the best and he's used to good grades as well as some down times. I find myself praying constantly and I don't think that it's a selfish prayer; I pray for all of the Brigade. I don't like hearing my son speak so grim. My son too is the quiet one. We would have to pull information from him to know what was going on. Together we can all help them through these new and rough times. Thanks for sharing your thought, that are so eflective of mine. And I still haven't heard anything since the first grading period.. Dianne Pratt Clyde (03/07) Flower Mound, Texas >From: LCSPop@aol.com >To: sfitzkee@erols.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org >Subject: Re: usna-net: First Grading Period >Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:34:11 EDT > >My son David told me what his grades were and said he knew now where he >needed to brush up in order to make the 'Dant's list (at the very minimum). >He rarely has time to talk, and when he does, he wants to talk about stuff >other than grades and junk. So much has changed for him, yet so much >remains >the same (he's always been silent about school, even when he was a Merit >Scholar in High School). > >He says that they are so busy, he doesn't know how anyone finds the time to >do anything but study. Chins up parents...I'm sure there are more things >that we don't know about, than things we do...and it will probably remain >that way for many more years to come. > >Bob (thinking that no news could be good news) Yoon >David C. 03/30 >LtWt Crew >Bakersfield, CA > >GO NAVY! > >*** USNA-NET post by: YOON David C. 03 YOON Robert and Gina > > >Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > >Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: PRATT Clyde J 03-7 PRATT Clyde and Dianne ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA25773 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:11:54 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [207.115.48.69] From: "Kay McGee" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: JV Football/Tailgater Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:13:08 PDT Hi All: NAPS 31 Navy JV 6 (I think). Sorry for the Navy JV (Plebes only this game) but NAPS creamed them. NAPS was 1 and 4 up until this game, so this gave them a big boost. It was sort of hard to root for one against the other, since they will all be on the same team next year. A Napster from our high school was playing, while our Youngster JV player sat this one out. They both got hugs after the game. And, I got to hear both D&B's practicing for the competition before and during the JV game. That was a good thing, since I didn't make it back for the actual competition as I had planned. Thanks to Karen and Sandi for organizing a great tailgate party at the Air Force game. I couldn't believe all the food! And all the people! It was wonderful to meet so many of you. I may go back for the Akron game after all, so I'm in if we do it again. At least at Navy-Marine Corps Stadium we won't have all those guys with orange flags waving and yelling at us. I would hate to go to a game at Redskins Stadium when there are 90,000 people. They definitely need a new parking plan. Someone asked about the half empty stands. I'm not sure why people were worried about tickets. They could have bought them at the gate. Maybe since the Army game sold out so fast, people just assumed this one had sold out, too. I wondered why they didn't sell just the two lower levels. Anyway, the stealth bomber flyover was extremely cool. The whole weekend was great, except for the final score on Saturday. Rifle Team won the Presidents' Cup on Saturday, beating Air Force, Army and Coast Guard. Kay McGee WA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: MCGEE Michael 01-13 MCGEE Kay ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA21159 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:27:35 -0500 (CDT) From: KKStuart@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:28:28 EDT Subject: usna-net: Homecoming tailgate To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Just a quick note to all out there interested in another tailgate. Both Sandi & I have prior commitments for tailgating at homecoming. We thoroughly enjoyed the last tailgate. I think it would be a great tradition to start & do 1 a year at some high profile game that people from all over choose to come see. The Air Force game was perfect, since so many came from across the country. I do think however, that it would be very hard to do this sort of thing every game, but now everyone knows how easy it is to get one going. I'll be up & ready again for next year's blow-out. This was lots of fun, & I thank you all again for coming & helping make it a great success. We have a great group of people on this server. KKS *** USNA-NET post by: STUART Christopher 03-14 STUART Karen K. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA21254 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:33:09 -0500 (CDT) From: KKStuart@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:34:04 EDT Subject: usna-net: Fly over To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Yes I was fully amazed to see a B2 fly over. My husband used to perform as the F-18 air show pilot which means I have been to more airshows than I care to count, yet I had never seen a B2 in flight. WOW. Those at the stadium who saw it should count their blessings. After 20 years in the Navy & a million air shows, that was a first. How lucky we are to be part of such a great team. By the way, the 4 flying in form were EA-6 prowlers - they are special radar jamming type planes, and the last 2 were FA-18's from VFA-37 stationed here in VA. Bch. I was dissappointed in their performance. A low-slow hook down 18 is not very exciting - especially following a B2. Maybe next time we can get them to hit mid-field & pull straight up -full after-burner. That's a crowd pleaser. Take Care & Fly Navy KKS *** USNA-NET post by: STUART Christopher 03-14 STUART Karen K. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA21662 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:09:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: SHUTDOWN ADVISORY Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:07:52 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all, Routine system maintenance to occur tonight. Expect the website and email to be out of service from 10pm CST to midnight, possibly longer. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA27064 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:13:48 -0500 (CDT) From: ACTIONCHEM@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:14:43 EDT Subject: usna-net: tailgate To: USNA-NET@navy-usna.org Karen and Sandi, Thanks for all the work you did to organize such a great tailgate. Looked like Mids and parents all had a great time. Penny Hulbert Eric 02-16 *** USNA-NET post by: HULBERT Eric 02-16 HULBERT Bob and Penny ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA27859 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:02:28 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:03:23 EDT Subject: usna-net: Grading Period etc.... To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Several parents in our club have emailed me with concerns about their Mids grades and I thought that I would create a post to help them and maybe others who do not want to ask...... It is the mid term of the semester and many of you are thrilled with your Mids grades so far.....but there are many of you out there, too ,who are worried about how things are going academically......so I want to give you all some reassurance......The reason for the mid term grades is many fold.....but one thing that it really does is to give plenty of advance warning to those who may be in some trouble academically. ....to give them plenty of time to bring those grades up.....and most importantly to do something about them NOW..I have often said that the Academy does not want anyone to fail and does everything in it's power to help those who may need it.... There are all kinds of options available....the most important being EI (extra instruction)......there are also classes on time management and many other avenues that can be utilized...but the one factor that will determine your mids success is the human factor...his/her efforts to get the help and keep it going.....It is vital that the best advise you could give your mid is to not be fearful of asking and getting help... Tell them to take advantage of everything and anything offered....tutoring by upper classmen......seek out their professors....go to EI....and work hard...learn to manage time better....learn to set priorities.....keep plugging away.....The main fact is that even with all of the help, if they continue to struggle......when the time comes (and it may for some) that they must appear before an Ac board.....they will be able to stand up and report that they have done a lot of things to try and get the job done.... they have not given up and will continue to work as hard as they can......The fact that they have made the effort and are continuing to make it will weigh heavily in the determination of whether they will be retained or not.....this is not a wonderful subject to discuss.....but one that NEEDS to be looked at....If your Mid is determined NOT to fail......then he/she won't.......and the board wants to retain those who make the effort.....those who control their own destiny..... Next.....I have also had some parents who are upset (somewhat) that their Mid doesn't seem to call or write......that the only communication that they receive is short and quick notes from email..........All I can say to that one is.......be thankful for email......and remember that these kids are NOT at University of such and such.. Their days are FILLED with duties and extra stuff they must learn....pressures that NONE of their friends are going to understand.....but we should realize.....as parents we should be understanding and thankful for what little email we receive.....just think that in the days before email there was even LESS of communication with them when they were this busy......................so just be patient....and be thankful for what you do hear......they love us and miss us......but they are VERY busy...... Dindy Liebert Peter 00/25 *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA29209 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:49:33 -0500 (CDT) Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal To: "USNA-Net" From: "Jo Anne Mitzen" Subject: usna-net: Picture Date: Mon, 11 Oct 99 11:51:15 PDT Does anyone know what year the picture that accompanies "An Open Letter to Mom. . . " on USNA-Net's web page (Family Interests) was taken? Go Navy! Jo Anne Nesquehoning, PA *** USNA-NET post by: MITZEN Joseph B 01-16 MITZEN Jo Anne and Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA06992 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:10:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "Van Spiros" To: Subject: usna-net: Great tailgate Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 03:46:25 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Hi all, What a GREAT tailgate was organized by Karen and Sandi and all!! It was easy to find with balloons and banners leading us to the tailgate location. The fly-bys with the USAF stealth bomber; the Navy prowlers and the Marine Corps hornets were so eerie and impressive. The weather cooperated until after the game and showers arrived as the tailgate was almost over. The food was fantastic, plentiful, great variety and absolutely delicious. There were lots of parents and mids, sharing thoughts and ideas about every topic imaginable. It was wonderful to meet and connect with so many familiar net people. Friday night we watched D and B performances by Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard. What phenomenal performances by all the groups!! The football game was a heart-breaker but every parent of a football player should be proud of the effort and sportsmanship of their son. The enthusiasm, athleticism, gymnastic ability and energy of the cheerleaders is outstanding!! If you can attend at least one football game (especially at the USNA stadium) , it is an event not to be missed. Go Navy!! Beat Army!! Carolyn and Van Spiros Boston, MA *** USNA-NET post by: SPIROS Michael 01-30 SPIROS Van and Carolyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA08202 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:23:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:28:08 -0400 From: greg chlan X-Accept-Language: en To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: National Anthem The National Anthem was sung by 1/C Nate Daniels at Saturday's Navy/Air Force game. What a shame that not only was the microphone not turned on for Nate to sing;but,that the program incorrectly listed Zack Herzberger as the soloist. Zach is with the rest of the Mens Glee Club on tour right now in SC and Georgia. Nate is a member of the DB,as well as singing with the Glee Club. He did not go on fall tour with Glee Club. Since one of the accounts mentioned the problem with the microphone, and the mid's name;we thought we should mention the identity of the mid who actually was singing. Nate's name was announced at the stadium. However, the PA system at JK Cooke Stadium left a great deal to be desired. Our seats were located directly above the mids, in the Club section...it was very difficult to understand/hear much of anything being broadcast throughtout the game. Despite never finding the net group of tailgaters, we had a great time meeting folks at our own "mini net" tailgater. JK Cooke Stadium is not the most "user friendly" to deal with the parking lot arrangement! It would be a terrific idea in the future, if map of the stadium and parking lot information could be provided to ticket holders prior to game day. I don't mean to make this posting sound so negative...it was a wonderful day! As always, we remained mindful of the blessings we have being close enough to attend so many USNA activites. We cheered throughout the day during march on,game,and all;knowing we were a part of a fantastic day! Hopefully, somewhere in SC or Georgia, an audience, with mid family members in attendance perhaps, was cheering our mid on, during a Mens Glee Club performance. We all try to support the mids in all of their activities around the country throughout the yr. GO NAVY!!!!!! Joan Chlan *** USNA-NET post by: CHLAN Kevin A. 00-2 CHLAN Greg and Joan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA14268 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:19:02 -0500 (CDT) From: SGV98MTX@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:19:50 EDT Subject: usna-net: A slight reply To: usna-net@navy-usna.org There are no USNA sports that are not important to The Navy Family. The Navy sports site does a good job of reporting the efforts of all our teams, but we depend on this net for "up close and personal" reports! I have not been aware of a shortage of coverage of sports other than our Division I football team by either of these sources. Hardly a day goes by that we don't enjoy reading a posting from one of you about an event involving one of the teams. It doesn't matter whether its the outcome of the latest Orienteering event or Women's water polo the efforts and successes of our athletes is important to us all. A great many Mids, as well as the men and women of the other service academies, are involved in a wide variety of activities that don't even involve sports. Sharing in the successes of those teams and individuals is equally important. The fact that any of them have the energy, the time, the spirit, the fortitude, and determination to do anything above and beyond bcoming Navy officers is amazing and certainly worthy of note if only among ourselves. I am not as big a football fan as I have been in years past (several years past)! I do not derive as much pleasure from seeing the semi-pros of Fla State play the semi-pros of Tx A&M as I once did. I derive a tremendous amount of pleasure, excitement, and pride in seeing young men who are true student athletes stand toe to toe with the farm clubs of the NFL and give as good as they get more times than not. Service academy athletics represents what is good in college level sports. It is regretable that some sports venues do not afford the opportunity for 20,000 members of the same family to assemble at one time to share their pride, joy, and excitement. Gregg (counting on your postings) Vardaman Oh yeah, "BEAT ARMY IN EVERYTHING" *** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Sharon ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA16985 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:52:02 -0500 (CDT) From: MrCid1@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:52:56 EDT Subject: usna-net: Air Force Tailgate To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I just want to extend a huge thanks to Karen and Sandi for organizing. We met so many parents, it was great!!! The food was amazing - also thanks from my son Jason and his roommate - they are still amazed at all the wonderful parents and sponsors they have met over the past year. Carol Cipriano - New Hampshire Jason '02 *** USNA-NET post by: CIPRIANO Jason A. 02-15 CIPRIANO Al and Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA17655 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:22:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:45:04 -0700 From: rws Organization: cmf To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Kudos to Parents of Plebes.. I am a sponsor mom and have just signed on to this wonderful site - I just wanted to thank all of you for the wonderful sons and daughters that you have sent to the Academy - in this day and age we all know how tough it is to be a parent not to mention a teenager - and my two plebes and the plebes they have brought to the house have been wonderful, outstanding young people - we truly look forward to the weekends and my son (age 16) loves having "the big brothers" around - Thank you again for your wonderful children and pat yourselves on the back for all you have done - We sponsors are so lucky to have this wonderful opportunity - GO NAVY, BEAT ARMY....Marty Sadler, Annapolis, MD *** USNA-NET post by: HEARN Russell 03-8 SADLER Rick and Martha ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA24922 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:52:12 -0500 (CDT) From: NevesPK@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 21:53:01 EDT Subject: usna-net: Sprint Football To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Did anyone actually see the game in Pottsville? Would love some commentary..I know it was really close. Thanks Pamela Douglas 02/22 *** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA26356 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 21:05:24 -0500 (CDT) From: rdropek@uswest.net Delivered-To: fixup-usna-net@navy-usna.org@fixme Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:11:43 -0600 To: USNA Net Subject: usna-net: Study Groups Dindy has posted several excellent ideas for Mids who may need help with course work. Getting EI (Extra Instruction) is paramount, but something else Mids can do to help themselves is to organize study groups. My son organized study groups for chemistry, calculus, and physics his Plebe and Youngster years. He worked with study groups for each one of his mechanical engineering courses this semester in addition to getting extra instruction. More than once the synergy generated from group members studying together, sharing strengths with one another helped him climb out of a hole. Study groups really have worked for him. Pam Dropek Sandy, UT Ryan, 01 22 CO *** USNA-NET post by: DROPEK Ryan Bradley 01-22 DROPEK Rich and Pam ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA00527 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:07:03 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:07:56 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Grading period To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Jan D. pointed out that it is really NOT the mid term.......but it is merely one of the grading periods within this semester.....It is however, one that I consider important... as it seems to be a good indicator .......There will be another grading done on 11/09 which isn't really six weeks.....and then the end of the semester is atChristmas break....so I think of this period as the mid point......sorry if there is any confusion... Also.....there seems to be some question as to whether parents will receive grades directly from the Academy.....The answer to that is that unless your Mid asked for them to be sent to you in addition to him.......they will not be......and you can not request them......your Mid must ask for you to be informed...(it is this way in many Colleges too) And a third thing.......A while ago someone posted a sight for International Call-back Phone Cards and I am desperate to find that sight......again......I lost it when my computer crashed last week....so if anyone out there can tell me the sight......I would greatly appreciate it....... Dindy Liebert ' Peter 00./25 *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA00473 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:46:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:53:18 -0400 From: Richard Santillo To: Navy Net Listserver Subject: usna-net: Lucky Bag Photos Does anyone know the Lucky Bag photo schedule? The last info I had was the phooootographers would start Oct. 5. I called DaVor and they said they had no scheduling information. My mid is a second class and I'd really like a new portrait of him. He says he has not received an email about it, but since I'm a lot more interested in this picture than he is, I'd like to be able to remind him to get it done. Any suggestions? Bev Santillo (Atlanta) Doug 01/19 *** USNA-NET post by: SANTILLO Douglas 01-19 SANTILLO Richard and Beverly ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA27869 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 05:28:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Deb Hefner" To: , Subject: RE: usna-net: Another tailgate Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:03:22 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0.4af090c8.25327b9d@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 My husband and I will be going to the Homecoming Game. We'll be driving in from Ohio on Friday night. We'd love to tailgate with any other list families out there. Who knows what we need to do to get a space? Just show up early? --Deb Hefner, Kris, '02, 13th Co. *** USNA-NET post by: HEFNER John&Deb 02 HEFNER Kristopher ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA03540 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:40:20 -0500 (CDT) From: baileyfg@ix.netcom.com Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:41:13 -0500 (CDT) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Oct 9th - JV Crew Results Hi Everyone - For those of you at the Big game and tailgate last weekend....there were several mids not present at the stadium. Those mids were rowing there hearts out on the Schuykill River in Philadelphia in the Navy Day Regatta. Navy Varsity won - see navysports.com for the short write-up. The JV boats did very well, also. 2V Navy "A" 13:26.6, Penn 13:33.6, 2V Navy "B" 13:49.9, 2V Navy "C" 14:00.6 This was out of a field of seven boats. These were races that are called 'Head Races'. The boats are started one at a time. The Navy C boat was the 7th starter and had fun passing 3 other boats! How do I know so much about the 3rd JV boat you ask??? Our son, who having never seen a shell before arriving at USNA from the desert has been rowing for 2 1/2 years, was in the third Navy boat. After the race he called from his cell phone...We told him there were only 2 minutes left in the Navy-Air Force game and proceeded to give him the play by play of the exciting finish of the game. By the end he had a group of 20 mids gathered around him waiting for each word. We had several parents of mids at our house and soo...after reading all the postings for weeks about the fun tailgate - finally felt we were a part of the excitement for 2 sporting events that day. So... Navy DID win on Saturday! And we had a great time. By the way...does anyone know how the Plebes did in that same regatta? GO NAVY Betsy Bailey - Phoenix David ('01) *** USNA-NET post by: BAILEY David F. 01-12 BAILEY Betsey and Gary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA09863 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 11:24:57 -0500 (CDT) Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal To: "USNA-Net" From: "Jo Anne Mitzen" Subject: usna-net: Navy Lodge Date: Tue, 12 Oct 99 12:26:48 PDT Apologies if this question was asked before. . . Who can stay at the Navy Lodge? Is it just for enlisted personnel? If parents of Mids can stay there, does anyone have a phone #? My computer is a dinosaur & I can't navigate the Web very well (too time consuming at this point). I would ask Joe but I know he is too busy at the moment. Thanks. . . Go Navy! Jo Anne Nesquehoning, PA *** USNA-NET post by: MITZEN Joseph B 01-16 MITZEN Jo Anne and Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA10322 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 11:56:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Bille To: "'Jo Anne Mitzen'" Cc: "'USNA-Net'" Subject: RE: usna-net: Navy Lodge Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:58:20 -0600 Organization: @Home Jo Anne, > Who can stay at the Navy Lodge? WHO MAY STAY? Reservations are accepted for all eligible personnel on an as-received basis. Once a reservation is made it will be firm and you cannot be bumped. Reservations and room assignments are made without regard to rank or rate. > anyone have a phone #? 1-800-NAVY-INN (1-800-628-9466) http://www.navy-nex.com/pnl-0.htm - The Navy Lodge We have a travel section on our web site that you may find helpful: http://10.8.5.55/annapolis/links/main.html#travel - COPA Travel information Paul Bille http://ouray.cudenver.edu/~pfbille/author 10349 W Burgundy Ave (303)979-0197 voice Littleton, CO 80127-5533 (303)973-4281 fax COPA http://www.csn.net/~billepf/annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: BILLE Daniel P. 01-13 BILLE Paul and Mary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA10543 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:11:52 -0500 (CDT) Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal To: "USNA-Net" From: "Jo Anne Mitzen" Subject: usna-net: Thanks Date: Tue, 12 Oct 99 13:14:06 PDT Many thanks for the Lodge info! It amazing how fast the responses came. I work 3-11 and expected to check in tomorrow for replies. I kept the computer on, went and fixed some lunch, came back and the replies were posted already! You people are wonderful! Nesquehoning is a small (former) coal-mining town near the Poconos, up the road from Jim Thorpe, PA (formerly Mauch Chunk, now named for the athlete & now a tourist attraction; lots of Victorian homes the most famous of which is Asa Packer's (founder of Lehigh University, among other things). Nesquehoning is home to the Kovatch corporation, supposedly the East's largest manufacturer of fire apparatus (KME). They also get some gov't contracts to supply the military with fuel tankers. Otherwise its a sleepy little town between two mountains (technically they are only "hills"). The Indian translation is "Narrow Valley" I think it was the Lenni Lenape that populated the area first. For any of you who are formerly from the coal regions there is a website at www.coalregion.com You probably have to be from Northeastern PA to appreciate the humor, especially the postings in "coalspeak" Once again, thank you & have a great Navy day! Go Navy! Jo Anne *** USNA-NET post by: MITZEN Joseph B 01-16 MITZEN Jo Anne and Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA12104 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:45:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:45:08 -0400 (EDT) From: John Ventura To: usna-net@navy-usna.org We really enjoyed the D&B competition on Friday evening against the Air Force and Coast Guard. Did anyone happen to video-tape the performance? We would love to have a copy. Please answer me personally at : ventura@rs3.npt.nuwc.navy.mil Thank you. *** USNA-NET post by: VENTURA Ann C 03-19 VENTURA John and Carlene ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA15068 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:14:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" To: , References: <0.47991e2d.25315513@aol.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: Tailgate Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:59:23 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 What a weekend! First, Congrats to the Navy Football Team! They put up a great battle and I think any AF Fan is glad to come out with a "W", as am I! Next, top tailgating. I have a designated tailgate spot that I want to make available to any and all parents to use for Oct 23rd on HC! It is spot 16 right next to Gate 2 as you come into Blue Parking. Great spot! Usually my wife, Carrie, and I host a pretty extravagant tailgate. Thins weekend ewe are split between ours and others, so we won't have the "full metal jacket" as per normal. But, anyway, we'd like to offer up our spot to use or share for all the parents. Please let us know if anyone/group is interested in getting together and/or using the spot. BEAT ARMY & Akron! Gregg & Carrie ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 10:33 PM Subject: usna-net: Tailgate well, I just dropped a bunch of mids back to the Yard. Whew, what a tailgate. I just want to say, "Thank you !" to all who participated in, what I bet, was the best ever usa -net tailgate paraty. It was great to put faces to names. I just wished we all had written down our email address on the nametags. I have no clue still, who some of you were because I didn't recognize an email address. Here, I was so worried that it wasn't going to turn out, and yet, it exceeded my expectations, and I hope yours, also. Even the caravan to the stadium wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. As for the left over food??? There really wasn't that much, when I started to sort it out. We had a few pounds of meats & Chees left, rolls and bags of chips. Donuts, brownies, & cookies. I had 5-6 mids take it back & distribute it between the different wardrooms. I have no clue who got what, I just know it will be eaten. We could not have asked for a better day - the weather held til the very last, and wow! what an exciting game. All in all I thought it was a great success. Again, thanks to all of you great Moms & Dad., siblings, and sponsors who helped make it a great time for all. Now what about homecoming? Fly Navy KKS *** USNA-NET post by: STUART Christopher 03-14 STUART Karen K. *** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA23546 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 19:48:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Ncp38@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:49:57 EDT Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-net-digest V1999 #218 To: usna-net-digest@west-point.org *** USNA-NET post by: PURCELL Christopher M 00-26 PURCELL Ronald and Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA23991 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:06:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Andidr1@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:07:36 EDT Subject: usna-net: Individual Formal Pictures To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi All, To find out when individuals are being scheduled for formal Lucky Bag pictures check out this web site http://www.usna.edu/Schedules/text/twau.txt (this week's schedule) http://www.usna.edu/Schedules/text/nwau.txt (next week's schedule) If you have trouble opening, just type to the slash after schedules (include / ) and it will give you the entire listing of schedules to pick from. Hope this helps. Andrea Darone *** USNA-NET post by: DARONE Gregory M 03-21 DARONE Dave and Andrea ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA24138 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:15:06 -0500 (CDT) From: MrCid1@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:15:56 EDT Subject: usna-net: Navy Lodge To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Yes, parents can stay at the Navy Lodge. You can make reservations within 60 days ahead. You need your mid's SSN to make a reservation. Your mid has to be with you at check in, but they told us if you have a copy of his/her ID that will be an adequate substitute. We went to look at the Navy Lodge this past weekend, they were very gracious and showed us a room and answered all our questions. The facility is lovely, just like any brand new hotel and is a bargain at $57/nite for a room with 2 double beds and a kitchenette, also fresh coffee in the lobby. There is no restaurant, but you don't need to go far to find one. Carol Cipriano *** USNA-NET post by: CIPRIANO Jason A. 02-15 CIPRIANO Al and Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA24217 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:19:24 -0500 (CDT) From: baileyfg@ix.netcom.com Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:20:23 -0500 (CDT) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: MORE CREW STUFF Thanks to everyone who responded about Crew schedules. I want to share a website for Navy crew fans...www.row2k.com (hope this is ok, Mike). This combined with the schedules on the www.navysports.com site under 'Crew' give lots of good information for parents about the sport, races, results, etc. Point of interest: Has anyone seen the new Harrison Ford movie, 'Random Hearts'? There is a great little scene in the middle of the movie when Kristin Scott Thomas is driving over a bridge and MY GOODNESS - it is the Naval Academy in the background AND the Crew with the Coach's launch are on the water. Must have been filmed last fall sometime. Gave me a little thrill, I must say. Go Navy Crew Betsy *** USNA-NET post by: BAILEY David F. 01-12 BAILEY Betsey and Gary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA24263 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:19:41 -0500 (CDT) From: MrCid1@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:20:34 EDT Subject: usna-net: Xmas Leave To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Leave ends on Jan 5 *** USNA-NET post by: CIPRIANO Jason A. 02-15 CIPRIANO Al and Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA08329 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:26:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:35:20 -0500 From: marykayeastep To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Cell-phones Howdy-- I know we had this discussion before, but after visiting my mid this past weekend, the subject has come up again! The cell phone program he had has run out and the company is changing the plan. I know some of you have done research in the area to find some good deals. Do you mind sharing what you have found? We had a wonderful weekend in that incredibily charming town. David is on the football team and they felt so down about the game--they put so much emphasis on the Commander and Chief's trophy. I think this will make them more determined than ever to Beat Army!! Thanks for the help with the phones--I knew right where to go for help! Mary Kay Eastep David Bader '01/4 *** USNA-NET post by: BADER David M 01-4 EASTEP Mary Kay and Randy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA10367 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:13:59 -0500 (CDT) From: "Chris & Loreen Rorex" To: Subject: usna-net: National Anthem Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:12:37 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 My heart began to break for Midshipman 1/C Nate Daniels when he began to sing the National Anthem at the opening of the Navy / Airforce game with a microphone that was inop. I was seated close to the mids, therefore close enough to hear Nate singing sans mic. At about, "Whose broad stripes and bright stars" the crowd around me began singing softly with Nate as if to be an encouragement to him. Soon the entire stadium was ringing the words in hushed unison. What a joy! I choked out the last few words with tears running down my face. Hats off to Nate for sticking it out in this small adversity, showing the class and confidence we've come to appreciate in our sons and daughters at USNA. Chris Rorex Proud Dad of Caleb 03/03 Tennessee *** USNA-NET post by: ROREX Caleb B 03-3 ROREX Chris and Loreen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA14369 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:07:17 -0500 (CDT) From: LoveTango@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:08:10 EDT Subject: usna-net: Col. Day Wkend To: usna-net@navy-usna.org, Garber29@aol.com Hi all, Well, I finally have a chance to take a breathe after our fabulous weekend in Annapolis with our mid. It started Friday night as we crossed the Old Severn River bridge and you see USNA layed out in front of you. As our 13 year old said - "Wow, I love this place!". We certainly agree - it is an awesome sight. Saturday morning, we met the tailgaters at the Crew boat house for the caravan to the stadium. Our mid daughter came over too! For a hug (and to bring some pe clothes to change to later for "hang out" time at her sponsors). Boy, she looked GREAT! We arranged to meet at half time at the section sign near where the mids would be sitting. I wanted to be able to tell her where we would be parked for after the game. Deb Bush - if only Brian and Meg had "talked" during the second half of the game - I believe they were sitting near each other and Meg knew where we were parked (ie.the tailgating party). We could've actually met each other . It was so neat meeting people in the boat house parking lot. Trying to put faces to names. We should definitely put e-mail address names on our nametags. The caravan over to the stadium was something else as was the organization of the Lathams in getting us all into the parking lot together. I was impressed and oh so glad to be part of this group. Finally we were all parked - two rows with the back ends of the cars facing each other. Each of the cars pulled to the front of the parking spot, thereby giving us space between/behind the cars for the tables and food and PEOPLE, best of all. Karen and Sandy - an amazing team in organizing this tailgate party. Thank you so much for pulling it all together. There were table clothes, and flowers on the tables. Lots of food - all varieties and such a great opportunity to see/talk. We really loved it. At 10:30 we packed it all in and headed in to the stadium. Since this was our first Navy game we didn't want to miss a thing. The march-on was everything I expected. We also were able to find our mid among the thousands, thanks to the flags and the way that each company is announced as they come in We were sitting in "heaven's" seats among many AFA fans - but also lots of USNA fans too. ALOT of good comraderie among all. The flyovers were awesome and as someone else had mentioned, although the microphone didn't work for the National Anthem - the mid singing didn't let that stop him and the crowd joined in - it gave me goosebumps. Well, needless to say, the game was so exciting. The only thing better would've been if that last pass had been caught. My heart certainly went out to the team - they gave it their all. Afterwards, meeting up with the tailgate - more food and more great conversation. It was fun going to introduce our mids to each other only to find out that they already knew each other. We noticed that our daughter enjoyed talking to other plebes, but avoided the upperclassmen. Although, at one point we happened to be standing with her at one of the tables and across the table was one of Meg's detailers from this summer. It was kind of cute - she was trying to avoid him but he wouldn't let her. "So, Miss Poukish, are these your parents, aren't you going to introduce us?" We had an interesting conversation with him. He informed us that he was still in uniform 'cause of being on restriction for missing classes. His reasons for missing classes sounded good to me - but - "no excuse, ma'am". His buddy was already in civies. When it started to rain, it seemed to be a signal that it was time to close up shop. I didn't realize how exhausted I was until we got in the car and headed back to Annapolis. A wonderful dinner that night with David, one of Meg's sponsor parents. The mom was away for the weekend, so we missed having the chance to spend time with her. These sponsor parents (as I'm sure all are) are fantastic. They have been so supportive of Meg and all the mids they sponsor. AND, all the parents of the mids they sponsor. LOL - US!! I know part of Meg's adjusting so well is because she has their house to go to on Saturdays for "veg out" time. On Sunday, we picked Meg and her roommate up to go out for a nice leisurely breakfast. It was so great to have time to talk to the girls. I've never been "yes, ma'am, no, ma'am" 'd so much before. That'll take a little adjustment. AFter breakfast we dropped Katie off back at the Yard so she could go to her sponsors house and we went back to David's. Meg immediately changed into her pe clothes and started doing laundry. It seems that she and alot of her "midshipman siblings" (different than her "sponsor siblings") do their laundry at David & Jan's house. It gets cleaner and they like having control of how it's washed. David was doing some household repairs and Gary started helping him. One of the Youngster mid-sibling (Luke) called and was looking for a ride over for him and 2 of his buddies (Phil from Greenwich, NY and Ted from the Detroit area). Since David and Gary were busy, Meg and I went to pick up the guys. That afternoon we decided to go to the Mall - movies and dinner at TGFriday's. We invited the Youngster's (Luke and his friends) to join us. I was dying to talk to the guys who had been at USNA for a year longer than Meg and were "Plebes, No More". Different insight, you know. They thought it was a great idea - food is the way to their hearts. Although we had to wait a long time for our table (because there were 7 of us) it was wonderful conversation with these delightful kids/mids.We talked their sports - two of them are off-shore sailing and one is in the D & B. Meg is rowing Women's Crew. The guys sailing haven't been to a football game yet. They sail during the game so the Yard and surrounding waters don't look deserted. Smart, eh? So, it was a good variety. We talked majors - everything from Naval Architecture to Engineering. Meg went to an Engineering Division briefing last week. The different Divisions are starting to make their presentations to the Plebes so that they can make informed choices when it comes time to declare a major. And we talked Army/Navy game. Can't wait for that!! All in all - what a wonderful way to spend an evening. We enjoyed "your" sons and our daughter immensely. On Monday morning we met up with Meg and had breakfast at Dahlgren. Lots of other mids and families doing the same. Because Meg hadn't requested a chit to go into town, she gave us her tour of the Yard. We saw some of her classrooms and walked over to the Crew Boathouse. Got a flavor for the walking she does just to go to classes and participate in her sport. Throughout our walking around the Yard we had the opportunity to meet other mids and their families. Taking pictures or just catching a breathe in the library. It was so wonderful. I love hearing the stories of how each of these kids got to USNA. They come through different routes but all were so focused and determined to be where they wanted to be. Very impressive. It was tough saying goodbye in the afternoon. But we had a seven hour car ride ahead of us and Meg had to be at Crew at 1500 (see, I'm learning). We told her we're coming to the Rutger's/Navy game on a bus with the Albany Alumni Assoc. so she should see if she could be one of the mids traveling to that away game. Anybody out there know how it's determined which of the mids get to travel to the away games? In any case, she would be coming home for T-giving in only six weeks. We are counting the days. And she is too. All in all, it was a wonderful weekend. Our daughter was much more relaxed than at PPW and she is so at home. It was reassuring to see her in her element. She had e-mailed me a couple of weeks ago and told me that even though they make the plebes do some seemingly strange things at times, she wouldn't want to be anywhere else. That's what a parent wants to hear. Sorry this is so long, but just had to share. Suzan & Gary Poukish, Schenectady, NY Meghan '03/20 Women's Crew *** USNA-NET post by: POUKISH Meghan Leigh 03-20 POUKISH Suzan and Gary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA14797 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:52:31 -0500 (CDT) Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal To: "USNA-Net" From: "Jo Anne Mitzen" Subject: usna-net: Navy Lodge info Date: Wed, 13 Oct 99 09:54:30 PDT Hello! My POP Server is unavailable (again) so I don't know how many more replies I got to my question. To those who replied directly & also were curious, here's the info: Phone # 1-410-757-7900 or 1-800- NAVY-INN (1-800-628-9466) I called & talked to a very nice woman : Parents of Mids can make reservations over the phone as long as you have your Mid's social security #. On the day of check-in, either have your Mid with you because they need to see his ID card. Or (if your Mid can't be with you when you arrive have your Mid go over before your arrival, they will make a copy of his/her card, Or have a copy of his ID card with you. You can make a reservation up to 60 days in advance. Go Navy! Jo Anne Nesquehoning, PA *** USNA-NET post by: MITZEN Joseph B 01-16 MITZEN Jo Anne and Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA14863 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:53:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Stamperhog@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:54:19 EDT Subject: usna-net: Silent Drill before the AF game To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I've sorta been waiting to see if anyone mentioned the Silent Drill Team Performance before the AF game. Ben said they were supposed to have an 8 minute period in which to perfom their practiced drill, but that at the last minute, they were told they couldn't perform because there was not enough time. They elected to give it a try anyhow, and as it was described to me, they were marching on while the Brigade was marching off. Soon thereafter the fly-overs took place, and evidently attention was diverted from the field for nearly their whole performance. He said that he wasn't sure anyone even noticed them. So tell me....... did anyone SEE this performance, and perchance did anyone TAPE it????? I'd love a copy, if one exists. Thanks, Lynn *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA05685 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:24:53 -0500 (CDT) From: dlgunkel@mmm.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: 3M-CORPORATE To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:16:09 -0500 Subject: Re: usna-net: D&B Results Content-Disposition: inline Folks, I gotta tell ya, the D&B did themselves proud this past Friday evening! We were fortunate to spectate at this grand event, and did feel, as did others sitting close by, that Navy did indeed produce a stronger performance than the Air Force and Coast Guard units. In this case, "others sitting close by" included former USAFA D&B members, as well as those of the USNA persuasion. The robust sounds of "Star Wars" and "The Empire Strikes Back" music was complimented by continuous patterns of intricate marching movements which prompted several outbursts of applause at intervals throughout the presentation. Although the USAFA D&B had a full sound and technical mastery of their presentation, they didn't come through with the spirit and intensity that our D&B provided. This was evident because USNA won the "overall effect" catagory of the judging while USAFA won in all of the other catagories. So, this one area must have counted significantly, or else the distinction was so great as to pull off a tie when USAFA won so many of the catagories!! One thing to remember is that judging, although a point system is used, of this sort is subjective, and individual judges are subject to their personal preferences. This is not to say that judges are purposely unfair, its just human nature to value certain things over others, either knowingly or un-knowlingly. This is something that my wife and I became aware of when our three kids went through their high school years in marching band programs. So, we have learned to "move on" and "get 'em next year", as the saying goes, and meanwhile we congratulate the winners and appreciate the efforts of all of the groups. As a additional note, I have to say that the accomplishments of these groups are all the more amazing because so many of the D&B members have never participated in a marching band, much less competition of this sort! Also, I want to recognize the efforts of the Coast Guard Academy's "Windjammer D&B" for their efforts. When considering that their group consisted of only 42 members, they were just outclassed by the size of the USNA & USAFA groups, but not in the quality of their efforts and gave a fine representation of themselves. I can empathize entirely since our high school was alway competiting with larger ones, and had to rely on quality over quantity, and it's just very difficult to overcome a large, talented group with a smaller one. All in all, this was a great spectacle to observe and sadly, will probably be our last since our son will graduate next May. Go Navy! Don Gunkel Austin, Texas "Pam Mann" on 10/09/99 09:53:53 AM Please respond to "Pam Mann" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org cc: (bcc: Donald L. Gunkel/AT-Austin/3M/US) Subject: usna-net: D&B Results My daughter wrote this sad news last night concerning D&B. Pam Mann Columbus, OH Joelle 03/11 We tied (USAF) with a score of 89.5. According to the judges they had the best: drumline, pit, and horn section and had just a snazzy general effect. I think they're deaf. Even the Commandant said we were robbed. We'll just have to smash them tomorrow in football, rugby, wrestling, and everything else. The D&B rematch will be at Airforce next year. Joelle *** USNA-NET post by: MANN Joelle Jenssine 03-11 Mann Pam *** USNA-NET post by: GUNKEL Bryan Scott 00-17 GUNKEL Don and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA07695 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:24:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" To: "USNA-Net" , References: <0.d75771c1.25351e4e@aol.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: Tailgate Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:22:16 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 AS I was going through my mail, I noticed that the MD Parents & Sponsors Club is hosting a tailgate on the 23rd. The cost is $12 per person and $5 for Mids, kids 6 and younger are free. Dave & Dot Scuccimarra (scuch@aol.com) and Rosalie Petsu (petsupa@aol.com) are the hosts. You all are still welcome to use my tailgate spot if anyone wants to set up there own. I'll be at another function that weekend, but can lend a hand and direction. Beat Akron! Gregg ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 7:29 PM Subject: Re: usna-net: Tailgate Hi! My hisband and I will be going to USNA for the Homecoming game. We would like to participate as much as we can. Send me some more information! Thanks, Go Navy, Judy Steffen (Tempe, AZ) Beth 02/13 and Jim 01/28 *** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA16111 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:21:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:37:45 -0400 From: Some Cully To: Stamperhog@aol.com CC: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: Re: usna-net: Silent Drill before the AF game References: <4f7d3878.2535e90b@aol.com> Dear Lynn, I'm happy to tell you that the attention of everyone in our entire section was focused on the Mid's Silent Drill team - the departure of the Brigade was quick and did not detract from them. Please assure your son that there was thunderous applause from the area of the stadium that we sat in and they looked sharp!! Go Navy, Kathy C. *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA16157 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:23:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Msimon2739@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:24:09 EDT Subject: usna-net: Threat Position-Alpha To: usna-net@navy-usna.org When I was taking my plebe back to the yard sunday night we had the same experience. Traffic was backed up for two blocks because each car was stopped and ID checked. When the Sentry got to our car he checked my son's ID and then scanned the back seat. As of yesterday my son still didn't know what was going on. Anyone out there know what this is all about? Gabriela Mike 03 25th OH *** USNA-NET post by: SIMON Michael D 03-25 SIMON David and Gabriela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA17294 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:30:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" To: , References: <0.4b8dc9e4.25366e99@aol.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: Threat Position-Alpha Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:30:12 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Actually it is a DOD Threat Condition. Different Levels indicate different postures of threat from attack.Our nation is currently under a Threatcon Alpha. Each level requires a different level of vigilance. Without discussing security unnecessarily in this venue, it requires that you will be subject to various levels of screening, much like you might expect at an airport. Gregg ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 7:24 PM Subject: usna-net: Threat Position-Alpha When I was taking my plebe back to the yard sunday night we had the same experience. Traffic was backed up for two blocks because each car was stopped and ID checked. When the Sentry got to our car he checked my son's ID and then scanned the back seat. As of yesterday my son still didn't know what was going on. Anyone out there know what this is all about? Gabriela Mike 03 25th OH *** USNA-NET post by: SIMON Michael D 03-25 SIMON David and Gabriela *** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA28582 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:36:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "gandy" To: Subject: usna-net: WHAT ABOUT THIS? Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:39:46 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF15CB.DA026E40" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF15CB.DA026E40 charset="iso-8859-1" GO NAVY BEAT ARMY ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF15CB.DA026E40 charset="iso-8859-1"
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------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF15CB.DA026E40-- *** USNA-NET post by: GANDY Jonathan Wayne 02-30 GANDY Wayne and Jackie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA29533 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 00:05:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:09:42 -0700 From: Jill Leverentz To: Mike Zets Subject: usna-net: Flags Mike, You need to get a life. All these clever things you've added to the site are great and also thought provoking. I found a site on Maritime Signal Flags and have triumphantly deciphered your new addition. I agree Navy should beat Army this year. Some sports have already accomplished that feat. Womens Volleyball, I think Sprint Football, and I know there was one other sport but alas I can't remember. Oh Well. You've made me stretch and broaden my horizons. I now have a complete printer color alphabet of Maritime Signal Flags. Way cool. Keep up all the great work, *** USNA-NET post by: LEVERENTZ Jamie C 03-7 LEVERENTZ Jim and Jill ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA21429 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:55:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Navymom02@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:56:35 EDT Subject: usna-net: Tidbit To: usna-net@navy-usna.org The discussion of Maritime signal flags triggered a memory from the summer. While in NYC touring one of the ships in the Yard Patrol Squadron, the Mid who was explaining all the stations on the ship told us that Navy vessels are no longer being built with a "yardarm"? I think that was the term he used for the part of the ship that held all the signal flags. He indicated with new technologies there will be other methods of communication taking the place of the flags. Thought there might be someone out there who would like to comment. Go Navy, Mary Cannici,NJ *** USNA-NET post by: CANNICI Richard J. 02-22 CANNICI Richard and Mary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA22045 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:24:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:28:42 -0700 From: Jill Leverentz To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Maritine Signal Flage This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------55126E0E73E0 Here it is for those of you that asked the URL for signal flags. Make sure the box 'Maritime Signal Flags' is checked and then you can go from there. --------------55126E0E73E0 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="flags.html" Content-Base: "http://www.flagsnautical.com/flags/fla gs.html" International Signal Flags


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--------------55126E0E73E0-- *** USNA-NET post by: LEVERENTZ Jamie C 03-7 LEVERENTZ Jim and Jill ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA22470 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:36:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" To: "USNA-Net" Cc: , "Rosalie & Paul Petsu" Subject: usna-net: Oct 23rd Tailgate Notice Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:36:25 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 There will be a MD Parents Club Tailgate on October 23rd for the Akron Game (Homecoming)! We will be in Spot 31 in the Blue Parking Lot. Game Time is 12:00PM. Tailgate party to start at 3:30PM. Cost is $12 per person, $5 for Mids. Kids 6 & under are free. Menu is BBQ chicken & pork, salads, slaw, baked beans, rolls/butter, & soft drinks & tea! Please join us! BEAT AKRON!! Payment (promise of) should be received by 18 October. Make checks payable to USNA Parents & Sponsors Club of MD. Information has been posted on the MD Parents & Sponsors Club web site. See http://www.usna.org/ for contacts and details. Questions? Contact: Dot Scuccimarra, 301-776-7220, scuch@aol.com Rosalie Petsu, 401-757-1135, petsupa@aol.com BEAT ARMY!! Gregg Steinhilpert *** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA22703 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:45:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:50:18 -0700 From: Jill Leverentz To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Oops, Sorry I'm so sorry for that addition to my last email. Imust have hit the wrong button shen I was posting my last note. I apologize for breaking any rules. It wasn't my intent. J. Leverentz *** USNA-NET post by: LEVERENTZ Jamie C 03-7 LEVERENTZ Jim and Jill ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA23456 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:15:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Lynn Tyll" To: "USNA-NET" Subject: usna-net: New members Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:15:46 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Hello, I'd like to introduce ourselves to you. We are Chris & Lynn Tyll, hailing from the tiny berg of Ubly in Michigan's Thumb. We belong to the usna parents club of Michigan. Our Mid (Christopher) is second class this year and thoroughly enjoys playing on the A side rugby team (a vicious sport, from a Mom's point of view). But he loves it, what can I say? Having just heard about this site, I'm a little unfamiliar with what is going on, but heard that it can be a great information network. We have 2 other children, Julie is an RN at Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak, Michigan, and Tony is a sophomore at Lawrence Tech. University in Southfield Michigan. We are in our second year of empty nesting, which enables us to visit the Annapolis area often. Visits from the folks seem to help. That's about it for now, I'm told to keep it short, not as boring that way. Hope to hear from you soon. Lynn *** USNA-NET post by: TYLL Christopher M 01-4 TYLL Chris and Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA07094 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:52:10 -0500 (CDT) From: CCARTUS@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:53:07 EDT Subject: usna-net: MEN'S GLEE CLUB - ATHENS, GA. To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I just wanted to write and tell the membership a little about the wonderful USNA Men's Glee Club performance that took place in Athens, Georgia, last night. The facility that was used was a beautiful, new auditorium; it was very large - and was packed with people all dressed up (as if they truly recognized this as a "special" event.) People were waiting outside, hoping to get tickets that might have been turned back in. The parents and others involved in organizing this did a fantastic job. It was clear to me that all audience members (parents and non-parents alike) were bursting with pride for the midshipmen. Their program was outstanding. Not only was the musical quality excellent, but the program was very entertaining - and the audience response was just wonderful. Everyone loved it! My husband, Bill, did some video taping of the event. He is leaving town for a few days, but after his return we'll see how the tape (not of complete performance) turned out. Hopefully, there will be some shots that can be isolated and posted - I am technologically impaired, so I may be wrong. Anyway, just thought that parents of the glee club members would be especially interested. I have appreciated - beyond words - any tidbit that has been posted about the D&B. (My daughter,Kristen, 5th co. plays one of the bass drums). Best Regards, Catherine Cartus (Snellville, Ga., a suburb of Atlanta) Kristen '02, 5th Co. *** USNA-NET post by: CARTUS Kristen 02-5 CARTUS Catherine and Bill ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA08535 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:50:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Insurance Pro" To: "usna-net" Subject: usna-net: Plebe Intervention Program Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:52:58 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 over the weekend we spoke with someone whose mid was being enrolled in the Plebe Intervention Program, does anyone out there know what this program is and how does it work *** USNA-NET post by: LASTFOGEL Jennifer L 03-24 LASTFOGEL Gene ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA08584 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:51:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dean Jung" To: Subject: usna-net: Cell phones revisited Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:40:11 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 ATT has a new cell phone rate structure for all active duty Navy, including Midshipmen. If you don't have a cell phone for your Mid already, you can contact the ATT store in Annapolis on Forest Drive; Tel: 410 571 8222. They can make all the arrangements. Basic rate is $13.99 per month which includes 20 minutes of "free" time per month. There is also a promotion, which you must request, which provides a additional 100 minutes "free" per month, for a pro-rated 90 days. The actual phone costs extra. For an additional $4.99 per month you get unlimited "free" time for off-peak hours and weekends. This brings the total to $18.98 per month which is considerably cheaper than any other regular rates that we know of. Peak time is 0700-2100 Monday through Friday. Additional time beyond the "free" minutes is an expensive $.32 per minute. Out of area roaming charge is normally $.15 per minute. If you already have an ATT account for your Mid, like we did, and want to change over to the cheaper Navy rate it is a little more complicated, but doable: 1. Call the ATT Customer Care at 1 800 888 7600; this takes you to the "local" Care center. If the cell phone is already "registered" with a Maryland number call ATT Customer Care at 1 800 477 3922. You need to confirm your cell telephone number and account information. If you are the account holder and user of record then you must at least declare your Mid as the "user" of record, which they will enter into the computer record for the respective cell phone number. You can also authorize the transfer of account to the Mid, however, that is only to show that you intend a transfer sometime in the future. The Mid could then call at any time in the future to take over the account, but not necessarily now. If you authorize transfer the entire cell phone account to the Mid, and want it done now, the Mid must call TAT Customer care personally and establish credit and assume the account. The Mid would then be financially responsible and also have to pay the monthly bill. We have set up our son as the 'user' and we are the account holder and still get the bill at home and pay for it monthly. 2. Once you authorize the Mid to be the user you must call ATT Corporate Care at 1800 999 5445. Advise them that you want to place the ATT PERSONAL CELL PHONE ACCOUNT under a "Foundation Number". In this case it is: #24000065, Department of the Navy. Ask them also to note your Mid's Social Security Number in the request in the computer. Transfer takes about two working days. 3. After two working days call Corporate care and confirm transfer of account to Navy's foundation number. 4. Call ATT Customer care again and confirm account information is now under Navy's foundation number. THEN you must request the special Navy monthly rate, the promotional for 100 minutes, and the "free" nights and weekends, if you want it. Be sure to confirm the new rates. NOTES: If your Mid becomes the account holder, then all of this follow-up calling must be accomplished by the Mid. If you are changing cell phone companies/providers from another company to ATT I suggest you contact the Annapolis ATT store for further information. Hope this is understandable and helpful. Regards, Dean & Sandy Jung, Lucas 14-02. *** USNA-NET post by: JUNG Lucas M 02-4 JUNG Dean and Sandra ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA15804 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:33:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" To: "USNA-Net" , "Catherine Parker" References: <19991014195520.70275.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: Oct 23rd Tailgate Notice Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:33:20 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Spot 31 is in the Blue Lot along the South fence, abeam gate 105. Gregg ----- Original Message ----- From: Catherine Parker To: Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 3:55 PM Subject: Re: usna-net: Oct 23rd Tailgate Notice Gregg, I have only been to the Marine/Navy stadium once before. Where is Spot 31? We will be parking in the Blue lot so we can enter Gate D. We would probably want to park near Spot 31 and walk to Gate D. Thanks, Catherine Parker Alexandria, VA Nick 03/11 >There will be a MD Parents Club Tailgate on October 23rd for the Akron Game >(Homecoming)! We will be in Spot 31 in the Blue Parking Lot. Game Time is >12:00PM. Tailgate party to start at 3:30PM. Cost is $12 per person, $5 for >Mids. Kids 6 & under are free. Menu is BBQ chicken & pork, salads, slaw, >baked beans, rolls/butter, & soft drinks & tea! Please join us! BEAT >AKRON!! > >Payment (promise of) should be received by 18 October. Make checks payable >to USNA Parents & Sponsors Club of MD. > >Information has been posted on the MD Parents & Sponsors Club web site. See >http://www.usna.org/ for contacts and details. > >Questions? Contact: > >Dot Scuccimarra, 301-776-7220, scuch@aol.com >Rosalie Petsu, 401-757-1135, petsupa@aol.com > >BEAT ARMY!! > >Gregg Steinhilpert *** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA16264 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:54:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:52:52 -0700 From: Mary Klotzbach X-Accept-Language: en To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Intro Hi, My name is Mary new to this site. my husband is Tom. Our mid is Matt O3 and is loving the academy. we have Three other children Katie a senior inHS, Mike a sophmore and Kerry is in 8th grade. We live 40 miles east of San Francisco and are members of No CA parents club. Just found this site the other day. Matt has been doing crew but is thinking of going to flag football. Would anyone out there know of a ride going to Scranto,PA over Thanksgiving. Matt could leave after his last class 1145. He does not need a ride back as family will be traveling to the DC area. Looking for up to 5 tickets to the HC football game 10-23 Thanks for any help. MARY *** USNA-NET post by: KLOTZBACH Matthew T 03-2 KLOTZBACH Thomas and Mary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA19431 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:49:14 -0500 (CDT) From: MrCid1@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:50:12 EDT Subject: usna-net: Navy Lodge To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I am sorry everybody, the Navy Lodge is located at the Naval Station just across the Severn River. From the Academy, going out Gate 8, turn right and go over the bridge. Take your first right, go down the street and it is on the left side of the street. Carol *** USNA-NET post by: CIPRIANO Jason A. 02-15 CIPRIANO Al and Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA20249 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:56:39 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 19:57:39 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Cell phones revisited To: usna-net@navy-usna.org As my father used to say....."another country to hear from" If anyone wants to know the details of the Sprint 'Free and Clear' program that my son has been using for the last two years....and of which we are now also members please email me privately......We are VERY happy with this program...... Dindy *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA00730 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:17:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 19:30:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicki Beeler Subject: usna-net: Traveling to Washington National To: usna-net Hi All -- I have talked to Omega Travel about booking a flight home for Christmas on 12/17 for my plebe. His last final is at 1:30pm on Friday. There is a flight that leaves Washington National at 6:44pm, and Omega tells me that he should be able to get a ride or cab to the New Carrollton Metro station, then take the Metro to the airport. Does anyone know if this is "do-able" within the time frame? He thinks the final could last 3 hours, and then we will have Friday afternoon traffic to consider. If anyone has a mid going at this time, please let me know. Or if anyone knows if this will or will not work. I know BWI is closer and more convenient, but the fare is MUCH higher. Any advice would be appreciated, as I need to book this flight soon in order to get the good fare. Thanks so much -- Nicki Jeff 03/21 ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *** USNA-NET post by: BEELER Jeffrey A 03-21 BEELER Allen and Nicki ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA05865 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:26:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:24:28 -0400 From: Dolly Organization: http://www.go-navy.com or Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free)- A Great Care Package Service & Personal requests hot line . X-Accept-Language: en To: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: CNO'S Birthday MSG 1. CNO'S NAVY BIRTHDAY MESSAGE TO THE FLEET - As we celebrate the Navy's 224th birthday, I'd like each of you to take a moment to reflect on what you have accomplished during what can only be described as another remarkable and very busy year for our Navy. Whether you were forward deployed--in the Adriatic, Arabian Gulf, Atlantic, Western Pacific, or Caribbean-or ashore--either turning around for deployment or supporting those who were (that's all of us, by the way!)--you have continued to demonstrate the Navy's relevance as we head into the 21st century. Throughout the year, our forward presence, forward engagement, and ability to respond to the full spectrum of crises, have kept us at the forefront of America's vital interest around the globe. Our successes--out forward and at home-- have been the direct result of your remarkable skill and dedication. You are the finest Navy men and women the world has ever seen and you do incredibly important work for Navy and country each and every day. You should be very proud of that. As we pause to celebrate our last birthday in this century, just think what a difference this Navy has made to the world in the past 100 years and imagine the challenges--and opportunities--which lie ahead for us. I'm proud to be a part of this great Navy with you. And I thank you for your service. Happy Birthday, Navy! Released by Admiral Jay L. Jonson, CNO. GO NAVY!!!BEAT army!! Dolly *** USNA-NET post by: PANTELIDES Nick&Dolly 72 ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA05921 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:27:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:26:14 -0400 From: Dolly Organization: http://www.go-navy.com or Midshippers, Inc. 1-877-3go-navy (toll free)- A Great Care Package Service & Personal requests hot line . X-Accept-Language: en To: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: FYI < ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA05981 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:29:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Msimon2739@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:30:51 EDT Subject: usna-net: empty nest To: usna-net@navy-usna.org OK guys---I need some help here. I need to find a wrestling parent that can give me a ray (or even glimmer) of hope for Christmas. My plebe son just Instant Messaged me. It looks like he will only be home a few days for Christmas. I told him we would be picking him up if it's too late to get a flight but he said that will be kind of tough from FL. Pleeeeease tell me that they have more than a couple days home. Our Thanksgiving break has been shortened because his HS leadership Instructor has asked him to hold a clinic on one of the days he has at home. (wasn't that nice of her?) hope you have encouraging words for me ! Gabriela Mike 03 25th OH *** USNA-NET post by: SIMON Michael D 03-25 SIMON David and Gabriela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA07391 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:59:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:01:42 -0400 From: Bev Harvey X-Accept-Language: en To: Msimon2739@aol.com, Naval Academy Parents Subject: Re: usna-net: empty nest References: <0.9302665a.2537ebdb@aol.com> Hi Gabriela, My name is Bev Harvey, from Hicksville, New York (Long Island) My son Fred is in Michael's Company. I have another son, gone through the Academy and I'm sorry to tell you but, in some cases they do have to go back early to practice their sport. My older son, Billy, reported back on December 26th to participate in the Swim team practice(down in Key West). The trip was optional, however very important to him. Do not despare, better times are ahead. No matter how long they're home, it's just never long enough. I hope I helped. Bev from Hicksville, NY - Bill '98, Fred '03/25 Msimon2739@aol.com wrote: > OK guys---I need some help here. I need to find a wrestling parent that can > give me a ray (or even glimmer) of hope for Christmas. My plebe son just > Instant Messaged me. It looks like he will only be home a few days for > Christmas. I told him we would be picking him up if it's too late to get a > flight but he said that will be kind of tough from FL. Pleeeeease tell me > that they have more than a couple days home. Our Thanksgiving break has been > shortened because his HS leadership Instructor has asked him to hold a clinic > on one of the days he has at home. (wasn't that nice of her?) > > hope you have encouraging words for me ! > Gabriela > Mike 03 25th OH > > *** USNA-NET post by: SIMON Michael D 03-25 SIMON David and Gabriela > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: HARVEY Frederick L 03-25 HARVEY William and Beverly ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA03908 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 06:14:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 06:36:36 -0700 From: rws Organization: cmf To: USNA-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Travel to Natl Airport Hi All - Replying to Nicki Beeler's request about transportation to Natl Airport (now called Reagan National) - Sponsor mom here from Annapolis - getting a cab to New Carrollton and then a metro to the airport sounds difficult and dealing with holiday as well as rush hour is worse - I'm looking at our local yellow pages and there are several shuttle services to the airport that you might want to call and talk to - they are as follows: Super Shuttle-800-258-3826 - AAAA Independent Transport - 888-256-5286 The Airport Shuttle - 800-776-0323 Airport Vans 800-474-9988 All American Transportation 800-605-0349 Hope this helps. Marty Sadler *** USNA-NET post by: SADLER Rick and Martha ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA04645 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:15:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Msimon2739@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:15:52 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: empty nest To: usna-net@navy-usna.org thank you all for your replys. You are all right. Parents of winter sports participants should be used to this. I guess I just needed reminded that "this is the way it is-deal with it". All of our Mids have taken on the greatest challenge in the world. I admire and respect them all. I do realize that my little inconvenience is nothing compared to what they have to deal with on a daily basis. I have always admired the mids but it seems that daily that admiration level is increased. I don't know that I could have taken on such a challenge at that age. Aren't we all fortunate to have such talented and driven young men and women. I'll just wait to see when my mid can leave, drive 6 hrs to pick him up and then enjoy every precious moment with him. I know those moments will be short because of all the friends he will want to spend time with also. But---If he can do this, I can at least do my part and quit pouting about it. Thank you all again This site is God's Blessing. Gabriela (lonely in OH) Mike 03 25th *** USNA-NET post by: SIMON Michael D 03-25 SIMON David and Gabriela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA08689 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:44:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Robertmcall@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:45:38 EDT Subject: usna-net: What a great weekend! To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi everyone, We spent a few days in Virginia with my brother, and just got home in the wee hours of Wednesday morning, so I apologize for being late with my comments regarding the Navy/Air Force game, tailgate, etc. It was such a wonderful weekend. The tailgate was fabulous! Karen and Sandy were terrific and everyone had a wonderful time. The game was one of the best I have ever seen. There were so many inspiring moments: The crowd singing along with the National Anthem when the mike did not work, the fly-over (especially the stealth plane - so quiet), the march-on, exchange of "prisoners," the USNA Silent Drill Team, the Marine Silent Drill Team, listening to both D & B's, and the hard-fought game itself. I missed a lot of the tailgate because we could not find our mid for about an hour. I had told him to meet us by the "D," and he thought I meant the "G." It goes back to the importance of attention to detail! It was great to see Ryan. He seems to be figuring out how to juggle his time better. I asked him if he had done the SPIE Rigging, and his face lit up and he said how awesome it was, and that he couldn't wait until next year when he would be able to do it again! This is from the young man who would not ride on roller coasters until he was in high school. I told him I was glad he did it, but also was glad I did not know about it until after the fact. I loved seeing the pictures of it on the Parent-net photo gallery. I won't be able to go to any more football games this year, but next year.......more tailgates should be in order! It was wonderful to meet others from the Parent-net, and some of the mids. What a great group! Sandy McAllister Fallbrook, CA Ryan 03/19 *** USNA-NET post by: MCALLISTER Ryan R 03-19 Bob and Sandy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA13248 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 19:46:00 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dave Long" To: , Subject: RE: usna-net: empty nest Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:34:55 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0.d582f7bd.253874f8@aol.com> My mid plays basketball and we've been told that after this year he will not be coming home for Thanksgiving or Christmas and he will miss all of the Navy v. Army football games after this year. As you all have said, this is the price that's paid for winter sports. If he's happy, it's fine with me. My wife and I have already discussed packing up the family and heading east for the future holidays. If we're lucky we can catch a couple of basketball games as well. Dave & Jenny Long Scott '03/29 -----Original Message----- From: Msimon2739@aol.com [mailto:Msimon2739@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 5:16 AM To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: empty nest thank you all for your replys. You are all right. Parents of winter sports participants should be used to this. I guess I just needed reminded that "this is the way it is-deal with it". All of our Mids have taken on the greatest challenge in the world. I admire and respect them all. I do realize that my little inconvenience is nothing compared to what they have to deal with on a daily basis. I have always admired the mids but it seems that daily that admiration level is increased. I don't know that I could have taken on such a challenge at that age. Aren't we all fortunate to have such talented and driven young men and women. I'll just wait to see when my mid can leave, drive 6 hrs to pick him up and then enjoy every precious moment with him. I know those moments will be short because of all the friends he will want to spend time with also. But---If he can do this, I can at least do my part and quit pouting about it. Thank you all again This site is God's Blessing. Gabriela (lonely in OH) Mike 03 25th *** USNA-NET post by: SIMON Michael D 03-25 SIMON David and Gabriela *** USNA-NET post by: LONG Scott A 03-29 LONG David and Jenny ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA17178 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:44:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Amysoule@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 21:45:43 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: empty nest To: usna03@gte.net, Msimon2739@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Our son is in the Men's Glee Club. Spring Break is always a tour. His plebe year they went to Texas, and this year (he's a second class) they are going to Key West. Last year they went to Europe: Italy, Belgium (NATO), France and England. To make the most of it, we simply gathered up our daughter who was on spring break from her college, and flew to Rome one weekend to catch the Glee Club at three spectacular venues: St. Paul's Within the Walls, Santa Susanna's, and St. Peter's. (The rest of the weekend we went our way and they went theirs; however, we did meet up with our mid and some of his friends one night on the Spanish Steps where we compared "tourist" notes! What fun!) Our mids have wonderful opportunities to help balance out the many sacrifices. :) Amy Soule *** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA17117 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 06:10:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Judi123456@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 07:11:38 EDT Subject: usna-net: Thanksgiving leave question To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Has anyone heard if the mids will be allowed to leave at noon on 11/24 for Thanksgiving leave as they were allowed last year? So far, my daughter has not heard anything, and I will have to change her plane ticket if they are not allowed to leave until the end of the day. I tried looking through the message archives to see if this had already been discussed, but could not find anything. Judi Pezzat Sarah 02/27 *** USNA-NET post by: PEZZAT Sarah B 02-27 PEZZAT Jorge and Judith ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA22002 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 09:04:09 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [198.209.19.253] From: "Sherrie Bayer" To: Judi123456@aol.com Cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Thanksgiving leave question Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 07:05:11 PDT Hi Everyone: According to the Nov. calendar on the USNA web site, classes on Nov. 24 begin at 0655. It also states that leave begins at the end of the last class. This leads me to believe that the schedule will be much like last year's where they were finished around noon. Last year, lunch at King Hall was a grab and go (sack lunch). Included was a big bottle of Surge--probably for those driving home! 39 days and counting. . . .can't wait to see my mid! Sherrie Bayer Brett 02/29 Bolivar, MO ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: BAYER Brett 02-29 BAYER Bing & Sherrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA22386 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 09:32:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Countdown to Thanksgiving... Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:30:52 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all, Since it's becoming the topic du jour, Sandi asked me to put up a countdown to Thanksgiving Leave Clock (on our website's Main Page at www.navy-usna.org) so that you will know to the minute how long it will be until your Mid may leave the Yard to begin Thanksgiving Vacation. For simplicity, we have assumed Wednesday, November 24th, 1500 hrs departure which may move + or - a few hours depending on your Mid's exact Class and Military Obligation Schedule. Most Mids that live the farthest get to leave the earliest with those Mids that live nearby being given the last Watches, etc. since they can get home the quickest and don't have to make flight arrangements, etc. Hope this helps with counting the Days, Hours and Minutes. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA23699 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:49:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Jhb317@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:50:30 EDT Subject: usna-net: LTWT CREW To: usna-net@navy-usna.org There is an updated crew web site for anyone interested. First go to the USNA web site, then the site index and log onto lightweight crew. It has some funny jokes and cartoons. The Princeton Chase is this weekend. I know the ladies are going, but I am not sure about the heavyweights. The weather should be beautiful. Did anyone go to the meet in Philly? I need directions to the meet from Annapolis on Oct 30th. My daughter, her two friends, and I are invading Oct 29th, I can't wait. I haven't seen him since the early part of July. GO CREW!!!!! Carol Bringhurst 02/19 Josh LTWT CREW Houston, TX *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA28454 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:42:18 -0500 (CDT) From: LCSPop@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 13:43:19 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Countdown to Thanksgiving... To: mzets@mail.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org just for info, the USNA class of 2003 website has had a countdown clock for all major events including x-mas and Herndon. I'm surprised all of you hadn't found it by now. (at least the did as of the last time I looked, admittedly its been a few weeks since I looked at the sight) Bob (lost in the system somewhere) Yoon David C. 03/30 *** USNA-NET post by: YOON David C. 03 YOON Robert and Gina ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA02236 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 14:34:37 -0500 (CDT) From: CMears4@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:35:35 EDT Subject: usna-net: Women's Glee club To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I understand the women's glee club sang in Washington, D.C. last evening for Madeline Albright. Anyone heard how it went? What great experiences these mids are having! Caryn Mears, WA Mollie Mears, 03-21 *** USNA-NET post by: MEARS Mollie Ann 03 MEARS Caryn L. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA07224 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 16:57:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:54:11 -0600 Subject: usna-net: Cornell U/USNA Sprint Football Team From: "LeRoy Gravseth" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Talked to my sons today about the game last night. It seems that NAVY realy came to play and Cornell gut came. With Cornell only getting 1 first down the finnal score was Navy 39 Cornell 0. GO NAVY------RUN OVER EVERYONE LeRoy Gravseth 98,00,02 Poplar Bluff Mo *** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA07357 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 17:02:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:57:36 -0600 Subject: Re: usna-net: Thanksgiving leave question From: "LeRoy Gravseth" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Please talk with your Plebe and set some time with the family (church, Thanksgiving dinner .......) also set down house rules. Remember these plebes have every minute of every day planned for them. THE YOUNG CHILD THAT YOU LEFT I_DAY IS NO MORE --> now have a midshipman and has grown years in just a few months. Things well be a lot different in just a few weeks when they come home for Christmas break. LeRoy Gravseth 98,00,02 Poplar Bluff MO *** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA20380 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 21:48:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Andidr1@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:49:01 EDT Subject: usna-net: Trident Web Site To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi Everyone! Is anyone else out there having trouble getting to the Trident page. I keep getting a page that says "Connection Timed Out" I've been trying for almost a week with no luck. Any suggestions? Thanks, Andrea Darone Middletown, De *** USNA-NET post by: DARONE Gregory M 03-21 DARONE Dave and Andrea ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA20770 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:11:17 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [209.156.34.195] From: "Kay McGee" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Trident Web Site Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:12:18 PDT I haven't been able to get to the Trident site, either. Kay McGee WA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: MCGEE Michael 01-13 MCGEE Kay ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA21226 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:57:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Trident Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 23:55:11 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 The entire www.dcmilitary.com site appears to be having trouble. Probably no big deal just a glitch with their server. Just keep trying. Things like this happen and then go away almost as quickly and mysteriously as they started. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA22032 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 00:23:09 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 00:56:05 -0400 From: Richard Santillo To: Navy Net Listserver Subject: usna-net: Navy Tennis Okay, it's time for a little Navy tennis promo: Navy is competing in the Patriot League Championships in tennis this weekend at Lehigh University. All eight Navy singles tennis players (my mid is one of them) have advanced to the singles finals tomorrow! Five of the determined finals are against Army. Go Navy tennis! Beat Army! Bev Santillo (Atlanta) Doug 01/19 (Varsity Tennis) *** USNA-NET post by: SANTILLO Douglas 01-19 SANTILLO Richard and Beverly ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA11389 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 07:11:42 -0500 (CDT) From: LiliaMayer@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:12:58 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Grading Period etc.... To: LIEBERTCO@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Dear Dindy, Thank you for making it clear how I as a new mid parent can help effectively. I really appreciate your solid advice! Lilia Mayer Richmond, VA Justin 03/07 *** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA17169 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 11:11:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "ray kretz" To: Subject: usna-net: after herndon Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:11:52 -0400 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF1898.CBE150E0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF1898.CBE150E0 charset="iso-8859-1" can anyone tell us what is instore for the plebes immediately after = herndon? will summer duty begin immediately or will they get a couple of = days leave before starting?we were wondering if our son might be = returning home with us after we visit during herndon.thanks for all the = help so far. ray kretz = = dan 03/07 = =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF1898.CBE150E0 charset="iso-8859-1"
can anyone tell us what is instore for = the plebes=20 immediately after herndon? will summer duty begin immediately or = will they=20 get a couple of days leave before starting?we were wondering if our son = might be=20 returning home with us after we visit during herndon.thanks for all the = help so=20 far.     =20 ray  kretz         = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;=20 dan=20 03/07           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;           =20   
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF1898.CBE150E0-- *** USNA-NET post by: KRETZ Daniel J 03-7 KRETZ Jane and Ray ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA20617 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 11:36:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 10:32:57 -0600 Subject: Re: usna-net: after herndon From: "LeRoy Gravseth" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3023001178_13428965_MIME_Part" > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3023001178_13428965_MIME_Part There is life after Herdon BUT............ The 4th Class (they are no longer plebes once Herdon is done) go and get hosed down first (they stink) and return to thier rooms to shower and change. After that they I think they have normal weekend liberty. If they have off after graduation they can go home (?????) that Wensday afternoon (If I remender right we got our sons airline tickets to depart aafter 4 PM that day. Didn't want them not to make thier flight. LeRoy Gravseth 98.00,02 Poplar Bluff MO --MS_Mac_OE_3023001178_13428965_MIME_Part Re: usna-net: after herndon There is life after Herdon BUT............  The 4th Class (they are no= longer plebes once Herdon is done) go and get hosed down first (they stink)= and return to thier rooms to shower and change.  After that they I thi= nk they have normal weekend liberty.  If they have off after graduation= they can go home (?????) that Wensday afternoon (If I remender right we got= our sons airline tickets to depart aafter 4 PM that day.  Didn't want = them not to make thier flight.  

LeRoy Gravseth 98.00,02
Poplar Bluff MO

--MS_Mac_OE_3023001178_13428965_MIME_Part-- *** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22817 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:43:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [163.179.204.54] From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Information Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 13:44:47 EDT To all, As parents of a mid we have learned a tremendous amount of knowledge through this list serv and without everyone out there the experience would have been quite different. I wish to thank everyone especially Mike, Sandy and all the upperclass parents. I for one noticed that many answers tome remain unaswered. I for one would appreciate that answers be posted to everyone (unless specifically requested otherwise) so everyone can learn. After all, what is 20 more e-mails a day :-) Go Navy Beat Akron! Have A Great Navy Day! Dennis Kolb Matt 03 7th Co. Long Island, NY, USA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: KOLB Matthew V 03-7 KOLB Anne and Dennis ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA23216 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 13:00:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "Norton Smiley" To: "usna net" Cc: "ray kretz" References: <001201bf18ba$54643420$ed1e113f@com> Subject: Re: usna-net: after herndon Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:04:45 -0400 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01BF18A8.912BC380" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BF18A8.912BC380 charset="iso-8859-1" Ray, et al, It depends upon what your mid's first assignment is. If his first block = is leave, then he can do whatever he/you want. If his first block is a = duty assignment, there generally is no free time. My son's first = assignment had him reporting the day of graduation during commissioning = week in 1997. He was at graduation as his cousin was graduated that = year. However, he reported for his first assignment at 6PM that evening. = If he has a day or three before his first assignment, then it depends = upon whether he ends up with any duties, like guard duty, fire watch, = etc. It varies from mid to mid. There does not seem to be a universal = guideline for this. My son even told me last year, some YP's actually = started before Herndon, so a handful of plebes even missed Herndon as = they were out in the Atlantic on YP's. Norton Smiley Devin, '00/22nd Westport, CT ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ray kretz=20 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org=20 Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:11 PM Subject: usna-net: after herndon can anyone tell us what is instore for the plebes immediately after = herndon? will summer duty begin immediately or will they get a couple of = days leave before starting?we were wondering if our son might be = returning home with us after we visit during herndon.thanks for all the = help so far. ray kretz = = dan 03/07 = =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BF18A8.912BC380 charset="iso-8859-1"
Ray, et al,
 
It depends upon what your mid's first = assignment=20 is. If his first block is leave, then he can do whatever he/you want. If = his=20 first block is a duty assignment, there generally is no free time. My = son's=20 first assignment had him reporting the day of graduation during = commissioning=20 week in 1997. He was at graduation as his cousin was graduated that = year.=20 However, he reported for his first assignment at 6PM that evening. If he = has a=20 day or three before his first assignment, then it depends upon whether = he ends=20 up with any duties, like guard duty, fire watch, etc. It varies from mid = to mid.=20 There does not seem to be a universal guideline for this. My son even = told me=20 last year, some YP's actually started before Herndon, so a handful of = plebes=20 even missed Herndon as they were out in the Atlantic on = YP's.
 
Norton Smiley
Devin, '00/22nd
Westport, CT
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ray kretz=20
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 = 12:11=20 PM
Subject: usna-net: after = herndon

can anyone tell us what is instore = for the plebes=20 immediately after herndon? will summer duty begin immediately or = will=20 they get a couple of days leave before starting?we were wondering if = our son=20 might be returning home with us after we visit during herndon.thanks = for all=20 the help so far.     =20 = ray  kretz         = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;=20 dan=20 = 03/07           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;           =20   
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BF18A8.912BC380-- *** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton and Harriet ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA24045 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:13:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 13:09:40 -0600 Subject: Re: usna-net: after herndon From: "LeRoy Gravseth" To: usna net CC: ray kretz boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3023010581_13994512_MIME_Part" > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3023010581_13994512_MIME_Part To ALL, All mids with only a few exceptions are at graduation. Wavers from graduation are few and hard to get. So don't plan on taking your mid home until at least after Graduation. They do have about one week between finnals and commissioning week. That time can be spent going home or on road trips. My sons have done both. When I asked my son (02) about the weekend after Herdon his reply was "Chill out, it's a life time until Herdon". I guss he was not the one to ask. I do know that information will be given to the Mids later in the year. LeRoy Gravseth 98,00,02 Poplar Bluff MO ---------- From: "Norton Smiley" To: "usna net" Cc: "ray kretz" Subject: Re: usna-net: after herndon Date: Sun, Oct 17, 1999, 12:04 PM Ray, et al, It depends upon what your mid's first assignment is. If his first block is leave, then he can do whatever he/you want. If his first block is a duty assignment, there generally is no free time. My son's first assignment had him reporting the day of graduation during commissioning week in 1997. He was at graduation as his cousin was graduated that year. However, he reported for his first assignment at 6PM that evening. If he has a day or three before his first assignment, then it depends upon whether he ends up with any duties, like guard duty, fire watch, etc. It varies from mid to mid. There does not seem to be a universal guideline for this. My son even told me last year, some YP's actually started before Herndon, so a handful of plebes even missed Herndon as they were out in the Atlantic on YP's. Norton Smiley Devin, '00/22nd Westport, CT ----- Original Message ----- From: ray kretz To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:11 PM Subject: usna-net: after herndon can anyone tell us what is instore for the plebes immediately after herndon? will summer duty begin immediately or will they get a couple of days leave before starting?we were wondering if our son might be returning home with us after we visit during herndon.thanks for all the help so far. ray kretz dan 03/07 --MS_Mac_OE_3023010581_13994512_MIME_Part Re: usna-net: after herndon To ALL,
    All mids with only a few exceptions are at graduati= on.  Wavers from graduation are few and hard to get.  So don't pla= n on taking your mid home until at least after Graduation.  They do hav= e about one week between finnals and commissioning week.  That time can= be spent going home or on road trips.  My sons have done both.  W= hen I asked my son (02) about the weekend after Herdon his reply was "C= hill out, it's a life time until Herdon".  I guss he was not the o= ne to ask.  I do know that information will be given to the Mids later = in the year.

LeRoy Gravseth 98,00,02
Poplar Bluff MO

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From: "Norton Smiley" <nsmiley@ibm.net>
To: "usna net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Cc: "ray kretz" <gcndusna@dellnet.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: after herndon
Date: Sun, Oct 17, 1999, 12:04 PM


Ray, et al,
 
It depends upon what your mid's first ass= ignment is. If his first block is leave, then he can do whatever he/you want= . If his first block is a duty assignment, there generally is no free time. = My son's first assignment had him reporting the day of graduation during com= missioning week in 1997. He was at graduation as his cousin was graduated th= at year. However, he reported for his first assignment at 6PM that evening. = If he has a day or three before his first assignment, then it depends upon w= hether he ends up with any duties, like guard duty, fire watch, etc. It vari= es from mid to mid. There does not seem to be a universal guideline for this= . My son even told me last year, some YP's actually started before Herndon, = so a handful of plebes even missed Herndon as they were out in the Atlantic = on YP's.
 
Norton Smiley
Devin, '00/22nd
Westport, CT
----- Original Message -----
From: ray kretz <mailto:gcndusna@dellnet= .com>  
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org <<= FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF">mailto:usna-net@navy-usna.org>  <= BR> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:11 PM
Subject: usna-net: after herndon

can anyone tell us what is instore for th= e plebes immediately after herndon? will summer duty begin immediately or wi= ll they get a couple of days leave before starting?we were wondering if our = son might be returning home with us after we visit during herndon.thanks for= all the help so far.      ray  kretz  &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =    dan 03/07         =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =     

--MS_Mac_OE_3023010581_13994512_MIME_Part-- *** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA25006 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:47:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Deb Hefner" To: "'USNA-NET'" Subject: usna-net: Christmas Catlogs Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 11:01:53 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Does anyone remember when the Mid Store Christmas catalogs are mailed? Thanks! Deb Hefner, Kris '02 *** USNA-NET post by: HEFNER John&Deb 02 HEFNER Kristopher ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA25137 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:51:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:05:44 +0000 From: Sharon Lain To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Navy Hockey Now that our ground is covered in white with about 7 inches of snow and winter is upon us, thoughts in our family turn towards hockey. Not to mention that our mid played in his first two Navy Hockey games this weekend.:) We have a question about watching home hockey games at Dahlgren. Our son said they were laying down the lines yesterday. Has anyone been to a "Navy Hockey" home game? Do you purchase tickets to do so? My husband is flying down and plans be there for the weekend games prior to Thanksgiving and we wonder what the situation is. Are there any Navy Hockey fans out there? Thanks to everyone for your postings. The USNA-net has been a great help and encouragement to our family here in Alaska. Sharon and Curt Lain Kenny Lake(not on the map), Alaska Lukin '03 20 *** USNA-NET post by: LAIN Lukin Curtiss 03-20 LAIN Curt and Sharon ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA25569 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:15:11 -0500 (CDT) From: LiliaMayer@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:16:09 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Silent Drill before the AF game To: Stamperhog@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org I definitely saw them, though did not tape! They were great, and even had a female among them swinging her rifle as deftly as the others. Impresive and moving. Lilia Mayer Richmond, VA Justin 03/07 *** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA29007 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:28:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy765@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:29:27 EDT Subject: usna-net: Open letter to Mike To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Mike, We want you to know that we have noticed! The Thanksgiving Count-Down Clock is great!!!! Nancy Rogers Steve 02/26 Hamilton, OH *** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS Stephen J. 02-26 ROGERS Randy and Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA29220 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:42:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:43:19 -0500 From: susy tuthill Organization: MediaOne To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: catalogue Dear Deb, If the Christmas catalogue follows suit with the other mailings, we should receive it just in time for Valentine's Day. Susy Chicago James 03-08 *** USNA-NET post by: TUTHILL James G 03-8 TUTHILL Susy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA29266 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:44:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:46:00 -0600 From: Denbigh Starkey Organization: Computer Science Department, Montana State University X-Accept-Language: en To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Navy Women's Rugby #1? Navy beat Penn State 49-29 in the rugby football game at Annapolis yesterday. For the last two years Penn State has been #1 and Navy #3 in the National Championship, so a victory this convincing will presumably make Navy the top seed in the chamionship in the Spring. Penn State B beat Navy B by only 43-41. My daughter said that they were intense games with a number of injuries on all teams. Denbigh *** USNA-NET post by: STARKEY Susan M 02-19 STARKEY Denbigh and Jean ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA29489 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:59:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "USNANET" Subject: Fw: Fw: usna-net: Navy Hockey Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:59:46 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Here is an answer to the question about hockey from my Mid. Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Sent: Sunday, 17 October, 1999 15:50 Subject: Re: Fw: usna-net: Navy Hockey > Games are free, you just go to Dahlgren and watch. > > -- > =========================================================== > "He who will not risk, cannot win,"--John Paul Jones > *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA00084 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:28:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "George Neverosky" To: Subject: usna-net: Women's soccer Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:34:48 -0400 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01BF18C5.E9036140" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BF18C5.E9036140 charset="iso-8859-1" The women's soccer team lost to Colgate yesterday, 1/0 (penality kick). Today was a different story with a BIG win over Rider, USNA 6, Rider 1. The entire team played great!=20 Both the men's and women's soccer teams will play army in a = double-header at NAVY on Friday night. GO NAVY - BEAT ARMY Kathy Neverosky ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BF18C5.E9036140 charset="iso-8859-1"
The women's soccer team lost to Colgate = yesterday,=20 1/0 (penality kick).
Today was a different story with a BIG = win over=20 Rider, USNA 6, Rider 1.
 The entire team played great! =
 Both the men's and women's soccer = teams will=20 play army in a double-header at NAVY on Friday night.
GO NAVY - BEAT ARMY
Kathy = Neverosky
------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BF18C5.E9036140-- *** USNA-NET post by: NEVEROSKY Daniel T 03-4 NEVEROSKY George and Kathy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA00276 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:41:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Robertmcall@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:42:20 EDT Subject: usna-net: Navy Hockey To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi all, Last year we attended four hockey games while our son was at USNA for a Candidate Weekend. We saw two A team games and two B team games. I think it was free, and we had a great time. You can sit in the balcany above the rink or sit at tables next to Dry Dock. Apparently, there was a lot of great talent coming out for hockey this year, and the teams should be very competitive, according to my son. He is one of the managers for the B team. Sandy McAllister Fallbrook, CA Ryan 03/19 *** USNA-NET post by: MCALLISTER Ryan R 03-19 Bob and Sandy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA00443 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:45:51 -0500 (CDT) From: MarkMLakes@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:46:54 EDT Subject: usna-net: Akron Football Game To: usna-net@navy-usna.org We may get a last minute opportunity to head down to Annapolis and catch next weekends football game against Akron. We obviously don't have tickets yet. Believe I heard it is not sold-out. There will be four of us, anyway, heres our question: Does anybody out there know or have a feeling regarding availability of tickets? Should we try to secure tickets tomorrow or will we be relatively safe purchasing tickets at the gate-day of game? *** USNA-NET post by: CHRISTENSEN Daniel L 03-19 CHRISTENSEN Mark ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA00913 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:58:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: A Plea for HELP... Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:57:01 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all, Several members expressed a common gripe today via the Net and a few others expressed the same sentiment to me privately... "Why does everyone answer privately?" We formed this net to HELP EACH OTHER. By sending private responses to almost every question, we are defeating the very purpose of this service. Please send your responses to either USNA-Net or USNA-Plebe instead of hitting the REPLY TO SENDER button. I know it takes a moment longer to type in the address but where would we be if we all answered in private? Our archives would be a very long list of unanswered questions. As I get a little older and wiser (Sandi keeps me from being too stupid on the Net), I promise to go softly when it comes to the rules. So please, POST YOUR ANSWERS for all to see. Don't be shy or afraid to say what you know. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA02504 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:03:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" References: <0.bd1fcbe5.253b9dce@aol.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: Akron Football Game Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:02:20 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 RE:<<>> If you're certain that you will be there for the game, buy the tickets tomorrow over the phone. 1-800-US-4-NAVY. Why risk a last minute sellout between then and now? Mike Zets Westlake, OH *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA02666 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:14:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "Mike Zets" , "" References: <00eb01bf18ea$8baf5240$1802d4cd@sandi> Subject: Re: usna-net: A Plea for HELP... Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:14:45 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Mike you scared us!!!!! That is why we have been answering privately. :-) Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA02762 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:19:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:15:37 -0600 Subject: Re: usna-net: Navy Women's Rugby #1? From: "LeRoy Gravseth" To: Denbigh Starkey , usna-net@navy-usna.org As I have said before it is great that NAVY was the victor. But a truely good game is the game that both teams are injury FREE. I just hope that all injurys where slight and NAVY Women Rugby continue in thier winning ways. LeRoy Gravseth 98,00,02 PS these views are mine and probly don't reflect my midshipmen sons. *** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA04476 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:39:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:39:35 -0400 From: Steve Fitzkee Organization: GFMI X-Accept-Language: en To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Navy Hockey We are so happy to hear from Navy Hockey parents! Our plebe is on the B team, and he is more than ready to start the season (next weekend). Since we have been to nearly all of his hockey games since he was 6, it will be very hard to not be at the rink, supporting the team. We are hoping to read about the games on the net. How did the A team do this weekend in their first 2 games? Any B parents out there? If you get to the games, PLEASE post your news! Go Navy-Beat Army! Steve and Jennie Fitzkee, Ford 03/13, Groton, MA *** USNA-NET post by: FITZKEE William F 03-13 FITZKEE Steve and Jennie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA04655 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:52:32 -0500 (CDT) From: JMarti2902@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:53:14 EDT Subject: usna-net: Mailing Big Packages To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello, I'm from Minnesota where hockey is life. Our plebe needs her hockey bag with equipment mailed to Bancroft. She's trying to start a women's team and has found ice to skate on. So now she needs her equipment. My question is, could the family that mailed those larger instruments plebe let me know how they mailed those instruments to their mids and which service did they use UPS or Priority Mail. I'm looking for convenience. I remember reading about an express office at Bancroft to mail their instruments to. Thanks for the Help Mary MOM Elizabeth ' 03-8 *** USNA-NET post by: MARTIN Elizabeth 03-D MARTIN Mary and John ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA04828 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:00:17 -0500 (CDT) From: LiliaMayer@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:01:17 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: A Plea for HELP... To: mzets@mail.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Thank you Mike. I am one of the guilty ones who tends to reply privately. I thought that what I had to say might bore most, so I tended to post only those comments that might have a general appeal. I agree with you: it is more fun to read the interchange. You have the tough job of keeping our eyes on the boat. :-) Lilia Mayer Richmond, VA Justin 03/07 *** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA04874 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:00:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Stamperhog@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:01:42 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Mailing Big Packages To: usna-net@navy-usna.org In a message dated 10/17/99 5:54:56 PM, JMarti2902@aol.com wrote: << My question is, could the family that mailed those larger instruments plebe let me know how they mailed those instruments to their mids and which service did they use UPS or Priority Mail. I'm looking for convenience. I remember reading about an express office at Bancroft to mail their instruments to.>> I mailed my son's 70 lb. stereo to him right at the beginning of the ac year, by way of UPS for $17.94 (including $500 insurance). Had I chosen to use USPS, it would have cost (at the least) $40. So I'd check UPS first! Lynn *** USNA-NET post by: FINKELSTEIN Benjamin B 02-6 BENSY Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA06898 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:20:46 -0500 (CDT) From: RAmes50695@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:21:47 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Akron Football Game To: MarkMLakes@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org I have 2 tickets for the Akron game and will not be using them. They are upper blue, Gate C, SEC 106, Row 7, seats 9 & 10. The cost is 22.00 each. If anyone is interested please Email me privately and I will be glad to FedEx them. Judy Ames Erin Borozny 03/17 *** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-17 AMES Dick and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA06941 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:21:59 -0500 (CDT) From: JMarti2902@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:22:51 EDT Subject: usna-net: Navy Hockey To: usna-net@navy-usna.org To all those Women's Hockey Fans out there. Hopefully by this time next year there will be a Women's Club Team to look out for! There are female mids now trying to gather interest amongst the Yard. Because it's the fastest game on earth and Hockey Is Life ! Hockey and Mid Mom in Minnesota (Mary) ' 03 -08 Elizabeth *** USNA-NET post by: MARTIN Elizabeth 03-D MARTIN Mary and John ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA07238 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:46:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:47:21 -0400 From: John E Ackerman Subject: usna-net: A Plea for HELP... To: "Mike Zets" Cc: John E Ackerman <112404.2415@compuserve.com>, "" charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by westpoint.west-point.org id SAA07233 When we forwarded mail (which feel is mine when I receive it) we caught hell. When we DISCUSSED conservative issues we also got hell, because obviously offended someone. What is this nonsense ???? No wonder more communication is private!!!!! John Ackerman -------------Forwarded Message----------------- From: "Mike Zets", INTERNET:mzets@mail.com To: "", INTERNET:usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: 10/17/99 6:07 PM RE: usna-net: A Plea for HELP... To all, Several members expressed a common gripe today via the Net and a few others expressed the same sentiment to me privately... "Why does everyone answer privately?" We formed this net to HELP EACH OTHER. By sending private responses to almost every question, we are defeating the very purpose of this service. Please send your responses to either USNA-Net or USNA-Plebe instead of hitting the REPLY TO SENDER button. I know it takes a moment longer to type in the address but where would we be if we all answered in private? Our archives would be a very long list of unanswered questions. As I get a little older and wiser (Sandi keeps me from being too stupid on the Net), I promise to go softly when it comes to the rules. So please, POST YOUR ANSWERS for all to see. Don't be shy or afraid to say what you know. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: owner-usna-net@West-Point.Org by spamgaab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) with ESMTP id SAA15481; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:07:25 -0400 (EDT) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA00929; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:58:28 -0500 (CDT) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA00913 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:58:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: A Plea for HELP... Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:57:01 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 *** USNA-NET post by: ACKERMAN John E 03-15 ACKERMAN John and Joanne ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA07848 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:12:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:08:44 -0600 Subject: Re: usna-net: A Plea for HELP... From: "LeRoy Gravseth" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org We travel a hard road John. Sence I caych HELL all the time I just do what I think is right and let it go at that. I fesife if my responce is needed by one or many. I also am gulty of sending one reply to the sender and an other to the group. Therefore sence some of the information I send as a reply to a sender I don't want to be shared to all. If I do reply to a sender I would hope that I would be asked before a reply was intern posted on the net. No more Soap Box. LeRoy Gravseth 98,00,02 Poplar Bluff MO If anyone would like to discuse this with me you can reply to me. I will not add more to this on the net. *** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA07891 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:13:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [208.244.44.107] From: "Teri Sweatman" To: nancyp@dialnet.net, mzets@mail.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: A Plea for HELP... Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:14:14 EDT Nancy is right Mike, we are afraid of somehow breaking the rules.. Teri Sweatman Tom'97 (1st Lt. USMC) Dan '03 22 (JV Football) Northport,(Long Island) NY ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: SWEATMAN Dan 03-22 SWEATMAN Mike and Teri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA11578 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:24:24 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:25:24 EDT Subject: usna-net: Special Package Addresses To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Sponsor Mom Here: I copied off those addresses (and the advice from the Mom who sent the big packages) and saved them in my USNA word processing file. Here goes: The address for overnight FED EX deliveries is: Midn. 4/C Name, XX Company US Naval Academy Bancroft Hall Express Office Annapolis MD 21412 Telephone No: 410-293-5001 From that far-away mid Mom: "We have used the Priority Mail service from the US Post Office. They publish the expected time frame for delivery, (ie 2 days from NJ). They provide free boxes and will accept your own boxes as well. I have sent a tennis racket, and on another occasion a 3-foot ironing board by splicing two of their boxes together. In all cases, postage was under $6. It's a real bargain if you can wait the two-days it takes to get there. They also provide a tracking service (available via phone or internet) for an extra $.35." I am ASSUMING that the P.O. address is the same as the one above. Joyce Hoffer, Sponsor Mom, Annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA14964 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:32:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Janet Ferrara To: "'USNA Net'" Subject: usna-net: Packages via UPS Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:33:18 -0700 I saw the postings on mailing using Fed Express, is there a different address to use for sending packages using UPS? I recently sent a care package to my mid that took 7 days to get there. I do live in California, but that seems very slow, since I had paid for what the Post Office called 3-4 day delivery. My mid tells me the PO at the Academy has been burdened lately and they are having a hard time keeping up with the mail and packages. I believe he said they only have 2 employees working there, that is a lot of sorting for 4000 mids and staff! Thanks, Go Navy, Beat Army! Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, CA Webmaster for USNA Parents' Club of Southern California http://www.web2000.com/usnapcsc Michael, Class of 2000, Co. 15 *** USNA-NET post by: FERRARA Michael 00 FERRARA Janet & Tom ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA19918 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:06:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Full Moon... Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:04:57 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all. I'm not sure if we've all taken leave of our senses or what but... PLEASE STOP all of this nonsense that has been going on this evening. Post your answers to me ONLY. Stop flaming other members. It's MY job to enforce the rules and discipline members for inappropriate behavior. A member sent me this privately and I asked permission to share it with you. I think it sums up MY feelings exactly and most of the other responses that I've received. ===========Original Message============== Mike, Is it just me, or do some of the latter responses regarding questions seem hostile. Is it anyone's business what type of relationship we have with our Mid and do they have the right to be so judgmental. I, for one, would be offended with a few of the responses. I have posted a few questions through the listserver and have received both private and public responses. In all cases I have always had parents email me asking the answers so I have posted the answers I received. I believe this is why we are here. To help each other out, no matter how silly the question seems, and to be nonjudgmental in the "whys" of the question in the first place. I, for one, will continue to post my questions and hope for any and all replies. I will also, as always, sit back and drink in the wealth of knowledge that some people obviously think is not worthy of being on this Parent network. Name withheld at Moderator's discretion. =========================================== Slow down, take deep breaths and see you all in the morning. Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA23965 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:09:27 -0500 (CDT) From: "GARY GADWA" To: "Mike Zets" , "" References: <00eb01bf18ea$8baf5240$1802d4cd@sandi> Subject: Re: usna-net: A Plea for HELP... Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:04:31 -0600 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 My solution has just been to read the E-mails........enjoy the communications and just not interact anymore. That way I let someone else break the rules. Gary Jodie Gadwa 02 Co. 18 *** USNA-NET post by: GAWDA Jodie 02 GADWA Gary&Laurii ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA24154 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:20:52 -0500 (CDT) From: twonavymidsmom@webtv.net X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAxf721PKpGd/1D07PVbCq6TSW1xICFDLqnk6t50mGfp8sfxJKj7e1tAoP Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:22:28 -0700 (MST) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Shipping Question Content-Disposition: Inline HI, to whoever had the shipping question: I UPS -ed a trombone, insured for $2500, and a French horn, insured for $3500, to MIDN 2/C ____________ Bancroft Express Office United States Naval Academy Annapolis, Maryland 21412 I was a little nervous as these are their GOOD instruments, but the were "overboxed" by UPS and padded with a ton of paper surrounding them, cases and all. They both went 2nd-Day-Whatever [not sure of their terminology at UPS], and both instruments arrived safe and sound [pardon the pun]. The shipping of BOTH instruments cost me to the tune [ha ha] of right at about $100 [over a two week span, that is the TOTAL--the horn was about $43 and the trombone $53], and I don't remember how much each weighed, but TRUST ME, they were both honkin' big, especially the 'bone. Both my mids received them in good shape and in the two days promised. I live in Arizona, so that ain't so bad! Hope this answered your question! GOD BLESS & GO NAVY!! Eileen Estes ({8-) Katie '01 hornist ([8-) Dan '01 'bone-head* [*not an insult] *** USNA-NET post by: ESTES Daniel 01 Kathryn 01 ESTES Eileen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA24262 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:25:44 -0500 (CDT) From: twonavymidsmom@webtv.net X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhR+6f1LZrIe0J8jOhLcwszGi4jVFQIVAKMEQcgjusP6gwZ5QY4ZBXfyFwOJ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:27:21 -0700 (MST) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Fwd: Shipping Question Part II Content-Disposition: Inline --WebTV-Mail-19054-1832 OOPS, I forgot, add your mid's company number, also, if you ship directly to Bancroft via UPS. --WebTV-Mail-19054-1832 Content-Disposition: Inline X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAxf721PKpGd/1D07PVbCq6TSW1xICFDLqnk6t50mGfp8sfxJKj7e1tAoP From: twonavymidsmom@webtv.net Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:22:28 -0700 (MST) To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Shipping Question Content-Disposition: Inline HI, to whoever had the shipping question: I UPS -ed a trombone, insured for $2500, and a French horn, insured for $3500, to MIDN 2/C ____________ Bancroft Express Office United States Naval Academy Annapolis, Maryland 21412 I was a little nervous as these are their GOOD instruments, but the were "overboxed" by UPS and padded with a ton of paper surrounding them, cases and all. They both went 2nd-Day-Whatever [not sure of their terminology at UPS], and both instruments arrived safe and sound [pardon the pun]. The shipping of BOTH instruments cost me to the tune [ha ha] of right at about $100 [over a two week span, that is the TOTAL--the horn was about $43 and the trombone $53], and I don't remember how much each weighed, but TRUST ME, they were both honkin' big, especially the 'bone. Both my mids received them in good shape and in the two days promised. I live in Arizona, so that ain't so bad! Hope this answered your question! GOD BLESS & GO NAVY!! Eileen Estes ({8-) Katie '01 hornist ([8-) Dan '01 'bone-head* [*not an insult] --WebTV-Mail-19054-1832-- *** USNA-NET post by: ESTES Daniel 01 Kathryn 01 ESTES Eileen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA24308 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:28:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:33:09 -0400 From: Robert Washkevich X-Accept-Language: en To: Navy Subject: usna-net: Womens Swimming The Womens Swim Team beat Rider University on Friday and also enjoyed a victory against Montclair on Saturday. Go Navy Beat Army, Bob Washkevich ALICIA "03" *** USNA-NET post by: WASHKEVICH Alicia A. 03-I WASHKEVICH Bob and Chris ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA24348 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:29:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:45:17 -0400 From: Some Cully To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: navy hockey Dear friends, I have been at Navy hockey games and at play-offs at Dahlgren. You can easily find a spot to watch and I don't remember paying or buying a ticket. We have watched from the balcony area and have had to duck flying pucks several times!! Makes for an exciting spectator sport. Go Navy, kathy C. *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA24494 for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:37:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" References: <00eb01bf18ea$8baf5240$1802d4cd@sandi> <00c001bf1916$0cab6fc0$ca9ebed8@ggadwa> Subject: Re: usna-net: A Plea for HELP... Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:35:21 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To Gary and all, <<>> The idea is to share experiences, answer questions factually, and generally enjoy the benefits of being among a group of 725 others in the same boat. Misery loves company. If everyone sat back and just read, answering privately, as I said before, our archives would be a useless list of unanswered questions. We've had a couple of rude comments tonight that have been taken care of. The first was the "nonsense" remark directed "publicly" at your Moderator. I've had far worse said to me in private but our Rules don't permit anyone to flame another member over the Net. The other problem is still in the process of resolution. I'd want to re-encourage all of our members to participate. Not just by reading but by posting. All of our rules are just PLAIN OL' COMMON SENSE. You wouldn't insult someone in person, why do it via email? You want your privacy protected, do unto others... A member commented that we should all have a taste of Air Force's Listserver. It has no rules and is a free-for-all, mostly without benefit from the solid support of REAL members. Just the ones that put up with the fluff and BS. We don't want our List to degenerate to the point that supportive members and serious, caring individuals leave because of a few hot heads and "Cause" driven members. We're here to help each other. Not just "be" helped by others. You have a real obligation to participate if you are a member of this service. Without YOU there wouldn't be a "YOU"SNA-Net. Mike *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA11546 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 06:55:25 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:56:16 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Shipping Question To: usna-net@navy-usna.org As with everything, I think there are many opinions and options available....so, therefore, I will add my 'two cents'....... We do not live far from the Academy and so I ship everything UPS....if I get it to the UPS shipping place here by the afternoon pickup, my son will have it the NEXT day.. It has been known to happen that I email him that evening and tell him I've sent him something......and he has gotten the package the next day BEFORE he has read the email telling him.....On the other hand, my husband has also sent him things Priority Mail........you know.....the one where they tell you that it will 'probably' be there in no more than three days.....(Well, remember, there is NO guarantee with Priority).....and yes, it gets there in 3 days.......we've done it about 4 times this way and consistently it has taken three days........If we sent it in the regualr mail it would take no more than 2........So consequently, I do NOT use anything except UPS for packages.....and I have always just used his PO # as the address.....(now I know that UPS says that they do not take PO#d addresses.....but I think they take them for the Naval Academy because the Zip is ONLY for the Naval Academy.....and there is only one place that they have to deliver packages......Here's how I address it..... Midn 1/c Peter Liebert PO ***** (the astericks are HIS PO number) USNA Annapolis, MD 21412-**** I would think that the Bancroft Hall office would aslo be good.......and UPS is less expensive when sending something large and heavy......I used to work in a small store where we used UPS all the time.......they have several categories...... Regular UPS....... 2nd Day (very much more expensive but worth it if you need it to get there really quick) 3 Day Select.....this is much less expensive than 2 day and only one day longer...I have used this one to send packages to my daughter when she lived in Montana and they ALWAYS go to her house (which was way out in the country-side) in the 3 days promised...... Oh, and another note.....I sent my daughter's cell phone to her in Florida by Priority Mail ( I was hoping that if it did take the 3 days it would be delivered on a Saturday -something UPS doesn't do...WELL.....not only did it NOT get there in 3 days...it didn't get there for 5 days and then it didn't get directly to her.....because I had insured it for $150 it went to the local postoffice......and supposedly they left a note for her about it ( which she never got) It wasn't until 10- days later after inquiring several tiimes at my PO one agent finally said to have her check the postoffice down there.....and sure enough....there it sat......no matter how you send it be sure to insure it for the amount needed.........just be careful....... ] Hope this is helpful......and not too confusing.... Dindy Liebert Peter 00/25 *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA11817 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:06:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Missatty@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:07:51 EDT Subject: usna-net: sponsor families To: usna-net@navy-usna.org To those whose mids have sponsor families who are moving or who don't have one--encourage them to find one. I spent the air force-navy weekend with a sponsor family. At one count, there were about 10 mids there. I had the best time of my life and was in awe the entire weekend of the love and respect shown in that household. The sponsor mother loves these kids like her own and in return they adore her. It's a great outlet for them and she gives much encouragement to these mids. She is a great sounding board for them, even though I know it must be emotionally draining at times. This wonderful lady started out with one and now about 6 come on a regular basis. It has made a big difference in my son's life at the academy. Terre Vardaman *** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Terre ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA15958 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:53:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Msimon2739@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:54:41 EDT Subject: usna-net: e-mail To: usna-net@navy-usna.org My son came on the Instant Message this morning to warn me that e-mail was down--everyones. he came back on 15 minutes later to let me know that it was back on. Looks like this is an on-going problem. At least now I don't have to be concerned when me e-mail is not answered right away !! Bless you all Gabriela Mike 03 25th *** USNA-NET post by: SIMON Michael D 03-25 SIMON David and Gabriela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA16333 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:11:39 -0500 (CDT) From: CMears4@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:12:57 EDT Subject: usna-net: Women's Glee Club To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Just wanted everyone to know that we spoke to our mid about the Friday evening performance in Washington, D.C. She said the National Museum was a beautiful building. It was such an awesome experience to sing for Madeline Albright. She said that many of the people had tears in their eyes as the Midshipmen sang. She said they sang around 20:00 and then waited around to do the grand finale about 22:30. They got back to the academy quite late. They also backed up some soloist, but she didn't know her name. She said it was a very neat experience! It seems that she is having far greater experiences at the academy in everything she participates in compared to her civilian friends who were actually recruited to a college with a musical scholarship or softball scholarships! What fabulous experiences! Caryn Mears, WA Mollie Mears, 03-21 *** USNA-NET post by: MEARS Mollie Ann 03 MEARS Caryn L. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA16596 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:20:40 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:21:09 EDT Subject: usna-net: Sponsor Mom on IM's to Mids To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Just a word of caution: A certain company's plebes got fried several weeks ago for too much IM-ing instead of studying. ALL IM-messaging was "forbidden" for ALL their plebes for a week or two. (I'm not sure how the punishment was enforced, however.) Don't EXPECT your mid to answer IM's if they are supposed to be working in the evenings. They might not be able to do so without consequences. Joyce Hoffer, Sponsor Mom, Annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA17081 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:40:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Judi123456@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:41:16 EDT Subject: usna-net: an answer to Thanksgiving leave question To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi everyone, I would like to thank everyone that responded to my question about whether the mids will be allowed to leave at noon on Wed. Nov. 24. I did get quite a number of different responses, but nothing definite. So, I called Omega Travel in Bancroft Hall this morning. According to them, the mids will all be excused after noon meal on Nov. 24th. She said that they received word about 3 weeks ago from the commandant's office and that this is an official decision. I would think that they know what they are talking about since they do buy tickets for a lot of the midshipmen. Judi Pezzat Sarah 02/27 *** USNA-NET post by: PEZZAT Sarah B 02-27 PEZZAT Jorge and Judith ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA17170 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:45:51 -0500 (CDT) From: FCBlast@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:46:55 EDT Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Returned Messages To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I also sent two emails to my son last night and they both were returned. It listed his address differently than I had sent it, but in my sent mail, it was listed properly. I am confused, and I really don't know whether to send it again or wait. Thanks to the note about IM problems, I haven't heard from my plebe since last Mon. and I was wondering if there was a problem. No email either, but I know how busy they can be. This is my first time to post, but I have really enjoyed the info from everyone. The Christmas ideas are great and the updates are interesting reading too. The Navy- AirForce game was our first game and we had a wonderful time. I spent the last week telling everyone how great it was. Thanks Again, Sheila Ash Phillip 03/25 Richboro, Pa *** USNA-NET post by: ASH Phillip T 03-25 ASH David and Sheila ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA18585 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:01:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "barbara koy" To: Subject: usna-net: Dental Surgery Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:09:09 -0500 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF1950.D19D7AA0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF1950.D19D7AA0 charset="iso-8859-1" I will be visiting my son at Bethesda Naval Hospital in November while = he undergoes dental surgery. If you have had a mid who has had oral = surgery there, I'd be interested in hearing from you. Thanks. Barbara Koy ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF1950.D19D7AA0 charset="iso-8859-1"
I will be visiting my son at = Bethesda Naval=20 Hospital in November while he undergoes dental surgery.  If you = have had a=20 mid who has had oral surgery there, I'd be interested in hearing from=20 you.
Thanks.
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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF1950.D19D7AA0-- *** USNA-NET post by: KOY Andrew Bruen 01-23 KOY Barbara and Ernie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA20867 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:29:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Bruzar@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:30:27 EDT Subject: usna-net: Home for Holidays To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi Everyone: After reading all the comments on Plebes and Mids coming home, I thought I would write about our Thanksgiving this year. We recently moved from So. California to Houston, TX. My son Bryan is coming to Texas for Thanksgiving, so he won't have the opportunity to go visiting his friends, so 3 or 4 of them have decided to fly to Texas to see him. He is very blessed to have such friends who would come so far just to see him and his brother. We likewise are blessed because some of our friends are coming as well. We will repay them by going home for Christmas so we came visit most of our friends and family. Nina Peterson Bryan 03/17 *** USNA-NET post by: PETERSON Bryan A 03-17 PETERSON Mark and Nina ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA23604 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:41:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [163.179.204.54] From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Returned Messages Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:42:37 EDT Sheila & all, We have not heard from our son since last Tuesday (no e-mail, no call or IM), which we thought very unusual. Then e-mails returning last night. Oh, the stress! :-) Keep the faith. Things may be going on that has their "eyes in the boat". Hoping to here soon, Dennis Kolb Matt 03 7th Co. ----Original Message Follows---- From: FCBlast@aol.com To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Returned Messages Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:46:55 EDT I also sent two emails to my son last night and they both were returned. It listed his address differently than I had sent it, but in my sent mail, it was listed properly. I am confused, and I really don't know whether to send it again or wait. Thanks to the note about IM problems, I haven't heard from my plebe since last Mon. and I was wondering if there was a problem. No email either, but I know how busy they can be. This is my first time to post, but I have really enjoyed the info from everyone. The Christmas ideas are great and the updates are interesting reading too. The Navy- AirForce game was our first game and we had a wonderful time. I spent the last week telling everyone how great it was. Thanks Again, Sheila Ash Phillip 03/25 Richboro, Pa *** USNA-NET post by: ASH Phillip T 03-25 ASH David and Sheila ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: KOLB Matthew V 03-7 KOLB Anne and Dennis ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA26113 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:13:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Missatty@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:14:03 EDT Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: sponsor families To: tonypatrick53@hotmail.com CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org I've always worried about doing enough for the sponsor families. Have sent some things from our home state (mississippi)-=-When i had the opportunity to visit last weekend, I went to Sam's and bought a lot of staples---paper towel, laundry soap, dishwasher soap, etc. I also found out that one may buy a gift certificate at Walmart which will be honored at Sam's--the sponsor mother certainly didn't expect this, but was grateful. Since she's kind enough to share her washer and dryer, laundry soap is a big item. Also might think about gift certificates to Honey-Baked Hams--there's one close by Annapolis and no preparation for the sponsor mom--just serve. Hope this helps. Terre Vardaman *** USNA-NET post by: VARDAMAN John G 01-8 VARDAMAN Terre ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA04520 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:49:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:50:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: LeRoy Gravseth cc: usna net , ray kretz Subject: Re: usna-net: after herndon REPLY In-Reply-To: <94018767801@mail.socket.net> Sometimes the mids sponsor will have a commissioning party for the grads. Included in that party are all the mids that person sponsors. The sponsor, in the absence of the parent, will place the new boards on your mid. If you are in JVD's group, all 'rents are invited to the party. In '97 we paid $6 each for all the food, and liquids. He usually holds his party across the street from the USMC stadium. One not to miss. For other mids you may need to contact their sponsor to ask if they are holding any party. There were 14 parties that I attended during commissioning week, all at night. Grads may prefer to just attend parties of their friends ('rents are invited too). I remember asking my son what he wanted. It is also a custom to take the sponsor out to din during that week. Just be ready to do a lot of partying. Undergrads get their new boards after commissioning. Sure wish I could go through that week again. I had a ball! peace and hugs...Jo Oliver John '97 Leesburg FL On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, LeRoy Gravseth wrote: > To ALL, > All mids with only a few exceptions are at graduation. Wavers from > graduation are few and hard to get. So don't plan on taking your mid home > until at least after Graduation. They do have about one week between > finnals and commissioning week. That time can be spent going home or on > road trips. My sons have done both. When I asked my son (02) about the > weekend after Herdon his reply was "Chill out, it's a life time until > Herdon". I guss he was not the one to ask. I do know that information will > be given to the Mids later in the year. > > LeRoy Gravseth 98,00,02 > Poplar Bluff MO > > ---------- > From: "Norton Smiley" > To: "usna net" > Cc: "ray kretz" > Subject: Re: usna-net: after herndon > Date: Sun, Oct 17, 1999, 12:04 PM > > > Ray, et al, > > It depends upon what your mid's first assignment is. If his first block is > leave, then he can do whatever he/you want. If his first block is a duty > assignment, there generally is no free time. My son's first assignment had > him reporting the day of graduation during commissioning week in 1997. He > was at graduation as his cousin was graduated that year. However, he > reported for his first assignment at 6PM that evening. If he has a day or > three before his first assignment, then it depends upon whether he ends up > with any duties, like guard duty, fire watch, etc. It varies from mid to > mid. There does not seem to be a universal guideline for this. My son even > told me last year, some YP's actually started before Herndon, so a handful > of plebes even missed Herndon as they were out in the Atlantic on YP's. > > Norton Smiley > Devin, '00/22nd > Westport, CT > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ray kretz > To: usna-net@navy-usna.org > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:11 PM > Subject: usna-net: after herndon > > can anyone tell us what is instore for the plebes immediately after herndon? > will summer duty begin immediately or will they get a couple of days leave > before starting?we were wondering if our son might be returning home with us > after we visit during herndon.thanks for all the help so far. ray > kretz > dan 03/07 > > *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA04621 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:51:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:53:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: MarkMLakes@aol.com cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Akron Football Game REPLY In-Reply-To: <0.bd1fcbe5.253b9dce@aol.com> Sometimes the sponsor can give you a few ideas. peace and hugs..Jo Oliver John '97 Leesburg FL On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 MarkMLakes@aol.com wrote: > We may get a last minute opportunity to head down to Annapolis and catch next > weekends football game against Akron. We obviously don't have tickets yet. > Believe I heard it is not sold-out. There will be four of us, anyway, heres > our question: > > Does anybody out there know or have a feeling regarding availability of > tickets? Should we try to secure tickets tomorrow or will we be relatively > safe purchasing tickets at the gate-day of game? > > *** USNA-NET post by: CHRISTENSEN Daniel L 03-19 CHRISTENSEN Mark > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA04727 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:57:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:58:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: Mike Zets cc: "" Subject: Re: usna-net: A Plea for HELP... REPLY In-Reply-To: <00eb01bf18ea$8baf5240$1802d4cd@sandi> The reason why I do not reply to all and reply directly to the letter writer is because I am afraid I will say something that will knock me off the net, ie. making a spiritual or religious statement. I write the way I talk and my MAKER's Name is always used. Our pledge of allegiance has "..one nation under God..." yet we cannot make any reference to Him on this net. I am not trying to change anyone to my beliefs, but there are many who talk and write the same way. peace and hugs....Jo Oliver John '97 Leesburg FL *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA04887 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:02:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:03:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: Mike Zets cc: "" Subject: Re: usna-net: Full Moon... REPLY In-Reply-To: <046601bf190d$2deded60$1802d4cd@sandi> I have just picked up my mail from saturday and before I read this response the letter I wrote was sent. There is no way for me to retrieve it. P&H....Jo Oliver On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Mike Zets wrote: > To all. > > I'm not sure if we've all taken leave of our senses or what but... > > PLEASE STOP all of this nonsense that has been going on this evening. Post > your answers to me ONLY. Stop flaming other members. It's MY job to > enforce the rules and discipline members for inappropriate behavior. > > A member sent me this privately and I asked permission to share it with you. > I think it sums up MY feelings exactly and most of the other responses that > I've received. > > ===========Original Message============== > > Mike, > Is it just me, or do some of the latter responses regarding questions seem > hostile. Is it anyone's business what type of relationship we have with our > Mid and do they have the right to be so judgmental. I, for one, would be > offended with a few of the responses. I have posted a few questions through > the listserver and have received both private and public responses. In all > cases I have always had parents email me asking the answers so I have posted > the answers I received. I believe this is why we are here. To help each > other out, no matter how silly the question seems, and to be nonjudgmental > in > the "whys" of the question in the first place. I, for one, will continue to > post my questions and hope for any and all replies. I will also, as always, > sit back and drink in the wealth of knowledge that some people obviously > think is not worthy of being on this Parent network. > > Name withheld at Moderator's discretion. > > =========================================== > > Slow down, take deep breaths and see you all in the morning. > > Best regards, > > Mike Zets > Westlake, OH > mzets@mail.com > Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers > Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org > > > > > *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA05149 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:14:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Kathy_Dennis To: "'Oliver'" , Mike Zets Cc: "" Subject: RE: usna-net: Full Moon... REPLY Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:20:07 -0400 Are we allowed to share newspaper articles that may be of interest to the folks on USNA-net? > -----Original Message----- > From: Oliver [SMTP:joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us] > Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 2:03 PM > To: Mike Zets > Cc: > Subject: Re: usna-net: Full Moon... REPLY > > > I have just picked up my mail from saturday and before I read > this > response the letter I wrote was sent. There is no way for me to > retrieve > it. P&H....Jo Oliver > > On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Mike Zets wrote: > > > To all. > > > > I'm not sure if we've all taken leave of our senses or what but... > > > > PLEASE STOP all of this nonsense that has been going on this > evening. Post > > your answers to me ONLY. Stop flaming other members. It's MY job > to > > enforce the rules and discipline members for inappropriate behavior. > > > > A member sent me this privately and I asked permission to share it > with you. > > I think it sums up MY feelings exactly and most of the other > responses that > > I've received. > > > > ===========Original Message============== > > > > Mike, > > Is it just me, or do some of the latter responses regarding > questions seem > > hostile. Is it anyone's business what type of relationship we have > with our > > Mid and do they have the right to be so judgmental. I, for one, > would be > > offended with a few of the responses. I have posted a few questions > through > > the listserver and have received both private and public responses. > In all > > cases I have always had parents email me asking the answers so I > have posted > > the answers I received. I believe this is why we are here. To help > each > > other out, no matter how silly the question seems, and to be > nonjudgmental > > in > > the "whys" of the question in the first place. I, for one, will > continue to > > post my questions and hope for any and all replies. I will also, as > always, > > sit back and drink in the wealth of knowledge that some people > obviously > > think is not worthy of being on this Parent network. > > > > Name withheld at Moderator's discretion. > > > > =========================================== > > > > Slow down, take deep breaths and see you all in the morning. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Mike Zets > > Westlake, OH > > mzets@mail.com > > Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers > > Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org > > > > > > > > > > *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike > > > > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > > > > > > *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo > > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > *** USNA-NET post by: DENNIS William J 03 DENNIS Kathy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA05626 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:44:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:46:29 -0700 From: Bob Brown Organization: Robert Erven Brown, p.a. X-Accept-Language: en To: Oliver CC: Mike Zets , "" Subject: Re: usna-net: A Plea for HELP... REPLY References: boundary="------------9F2215B8C531E28336E825B3" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9F2215B8C531E28336E825B3 Amen, Jo! Oliver wrote: > > The reason why I do not reply to all and reply directly to the > letter writer is because I am afraid I will say something that will knock > me off the net, ie. making a spiritual or religious statement. I write > the way I talk and my MAKER's Name is always used. > Our pledge of allegiance has "..one nation under God..." yet we > cannot make any reference to Him on this net. I am not trying to change > anyone to my beliefs, but there are many who talk and write the same way. > > peace and hugs....Jo Oliver > John '97 > Leesburg FL > > *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org --------------9F2215B8C531E28336E825B3 name="robert.erven.brown.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Bob Brown Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="robert.erven.brown.vcf" begin:vcard n:Brown;Bob tel;fax:602-992-6966 tel;work:602-9926725 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Robert Erven Brown, p.a. adr:;;4535 East Hearn Road;Phoenix;AZ;85032-5552;USA version:2.1 email;internet:robert.erven.brown@azbar.org title:Bob Brown fn:"Robert Erven Brown, p.a." end:vcard --------------9F2215B8C531E28336E825B3-- *** USNA-NET post by: BROWN Kevin MacLaren 01-14 BROWN Bob ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA05840 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:54:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Van Spiros" To: Subject: usna-net: server down Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 00:53:34 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Hello all, Our mid called last night to check in and let us know the server was down (most of the weekend) and that he was still alive after a visit to NYC this past weekend. (He's a Boston Red Sox fan who made the mistake of cheering a Nomar G homerun in an all Yankees beverage establishment. In true shipmates fashion, they were all escorted out the door!! Yes, the servers are down and I'm not sure if they're up yet. Go NAVY!! Beat Army!! Carolyn Spiros Needham, MA *** USNA-NET post by: SPIROS Michael 01-30 SPIROS Van and Carolyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA07098 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:02:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Amysoule@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:02:48 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Dental Surgery To: bkoy@phoenix.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org My son needs dental surgery also; I would appreciate some knowledge on this subject, too, so please answer on the listserv! Amy Soule *** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA13066 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:58:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Stearns, Michael D" To: bkoy@phoenix.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org, "'Amysoule@aol.com'" Subject: RE: usna-net: Dental Surgery Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:59:07 -0700 Amy, My son had a titanium screw implanted last week for a future false tooth. (Of course, I wondered about "loose screws" just so he would not feel neglected). He shared a couple paragraphs via email last week, but had nothing on some of the logistics, etc. I just sent him an email asking about the process. If and when he replies, I will try to share the results. I do know that Bethesda has a world-class reputation for medical quality and performance. Mark did share that "The DR. couldn't get me with an IV on the first try so he tried on my wrist, that didn't work and finally a corpsman (who really runs the Navy?) took command and on his first try made the insertion." Mike "Change is required. There is a process of change, just as there is a process of manufacturing, or for growing wheat. How to change is the problem." -- Dr. W. Edwards Deming > ---------- > From: Amysoule@aol.com[SMTP:Amysoule@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 1:02 PM > To: bkoy@phoenix.net; usna-net@navy-usna.org > Subject: Re: usna-net: Dental Surgery > > My son needs dental surgery also; I would appreciate some knowledge on this > subject, too, so please answer on the listserv! > > Amy Soule > > *** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > *** USNA-NET post by: STEARNS Mark Elliot 02-12 STEARNS Michael and Vicki ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA13351 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:07:32 -0500 (CDT) From: "Deb Hefner" To: "'Mike Zets'" , "''" Subject: RE: usna-net: A Plea for HELP... Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:06:49 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <066301bf1919$cf150000$1802d4cd@sandi> If a coach allowed his rules and game plan to be altered by everyone on the team, would he last long? Keep up the good work Mike. I was chewed out by your predecessor and had it coming. John N. Hefner *** USNA-NET post by: HEFNER John&Deb 02 HEFNER Kristopher ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA13720 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:29:52 -0500 (CDT) From: CMELLO5523@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:30:51 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Dental Surgery To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Our son needed to have all four wisdom teeth removed last year. After seeing a dentist at the Academy, he was told that they would pull the one tooth that was bothering him immediately. However, for removal of all four, he would need to be placed on a list. (What else in the Navy!) The waiting list was long, could be a year or more and when his turn came up he would have to take it, whether or not it was scheduled during a convenient time or not (exam week, a sporting event, etc.) OR his name would go back to the bottom of the list. We scheduled the surgery during the summer in between summer cruises. Not a fun way to spend a week at home, but a least it was done by our own oral surgeon and he did not have the pressure of studying, academy life, etc. at that time. I'm sure this is an example of why it is recommended that you keep your mids on your current family medical plan if at all possible. Mary Mello Seekonk, MA Charles, 02 1st Co. *** USNA-NET post by: MELLO Charles 02 MELLO Mary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA15152 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:25:51 -0500 (CDT) From: LiliaMayer@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:26:57 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Full Moon... To: mzets@mail.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org In a message dated 99-10-17 22:09:14 EDT, mzets@mail.com writes: << Slow down, take deep breaths and see you all in the morning. >> Love this piece of advice! Lilia Mayer Richmond, VA Justin 03/07 *** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA17335 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:04:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy765@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:05:16 EDT Subject: usna-net: Dental Surgery/Insurance To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Dear Mary Mello and others, You were wise to have your son's surgery during the summer - I'm sure everyone felt better about it. I was wondering, were you able to use the Navy's insurance? I have been wondering if our mids' Navy coverage extends to our home areas if the need arises when they are at home, or if they should use the parents' coverage. Any ideas? Nancy Rogers Steve 02/26 Hamilton, OH *** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS Stephen J. 02-26 ROGERS Randy and Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA17543 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:13:14 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:14:11 EDT Subject: usna-net: Sponsor Mom: License Plates and Christmas Presents To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi All! I had to pick up the USNA 150th Anniversary video I had ordered from the Naval Institute Bookstore today, so I took a long, long walk around the Yard. The sun was brilliant, white puffy clouds filled the blue sky, and all was peaceful and silent. Few mids were to be seen. It was the SOUNDS by the water that intrigued me first today. The rigging on the 44's was silent, but the fittings on the little sailboats were jangling and clanking in the breeze. Along the seawall, I noticed that the Firstie cars had a singular theme. License plates from Georgia, Oklahoma, Oregon, Virginia, West Virginia, and MANY, MANY other states proclaimed "USNA OO." It was obvious that once a state had issued THAT plate, other mids had requested "USNA MM" and "USNA 2M" and "MID 00" and "USNA 2K." If there is a car in your mid's future, you might consider getting him/her a vanity plate that proudly proclaims our Academy. On to Christmas presents. I had a lot of ideas while I was walking. Here goes: 1. Gift certificates to that national video outlet that starts with B...B......, so the mids can rent their own films to take to the sponsors' houses. 2. A subscription to some kind of food-of-the-month club, (not perishable, obviously) that will deliver goodies directly to Bancroft 10 times a year. 3. A small "stash" of Traveller's Cheques, to be used in case of emergency, hunger attack, taxi fare, etc. If you get the kind that one of two people can sign, and you have to buy a minimum amount (ex: $100), you can keep $60 or $80 for your next grocery shop and give your mid $40 or $20. Young people tend to hold onto Traveller's Cheques longer than cash, which flows out immediately like the proverbial H20. 4. Start haunting antiques and collectibles shops, as well as used book stores. I have found photographs of Navy vessels from WW II, old prints of sailing ships, a biography of John Paul Jones that I am SURE was not authorized by the Navy, a brass label that proclaims "1st MATE," sextants and other extinct brass navigating instruments, a 2 volume book on Naval history with copper plates inset in the covers. Way, way out in the country in Southern Maryland, I found a shop with REAL propellers from "drone" planes. Bought one for my cousin, an AF pilot. In France this summer, I came upon replicas of early sailors' Grog Cups, with an explanation of the daily rum ration and some daily "toasts" the men offered up. I have saved the best idea for last, but it will depend entirely on YOUR MID if this will succeed. RE-DO HER/HIS ROOM. Take down those pink-flowered, wild animal-printed or green plaid curtains and bedspread. Replace them with Blue and Gold. (If you buy from the J.C. P_ _ _ _ _ place, they will let you take things home and try them, then take them back after Christmas if they are not suitable. I'm sure other stores do the same.) Hang sailing or flying prints on the wall. You no longer have a teenager. You have a young woman or man. Let their rooms grow up with them. When your mid actually gets home and LIKES the new setup, you can talk about new paint and carpet. OKAY, now for YOUR Christmas present. Do you have a Wish List too? During my little bookstore trip this morning, I picked up two CD's: "A Cappella - USNA Men's Glee Club" and "Eternal Father Volume III - Chapel Music from the USNA." There is no way to express how AWESOME these recordings are!! I have had goosebumps all afternoon just listening to them. And I DIDN'T buy Volumes I and II yet! I'm sure your mid can get them cheaper at the Mid Store. Maybe the grandparents would enjoy them. I'm also sure they come in cassette form, if you prefer to listen in the car, etc. Hope this has been helpful. Looking forward to hearing from you. Joyce Hoffer, Sponsor Mom, Annapolis P.S. Is Joyce Burns moved in and settled yet??? I miss her, and I know you must too! *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA18419 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:42:21 -0500 (CDT) From: "JOSEPH MOSCATO" To: Subject: usna-net: Navy Songs Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:45:20 -0700 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF19A1.4F7EC3C0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF19A1.4F7EC3C0 charset="iso-8859-1" In response to Joyce Hoffer's note- I picked up a Navy Sailing CD on PPW = and listen to it every morning. It really gives me a lift rather than the = usual News on the radio. It was playing when my son called one morning & = he recognized the songs and started laughing. I play it frequently and = my husband & I find uorselves singing & humming the tunes, in public no = less! Makes me feel good. And it goes very well with cleaning & cooking = too! Melody Moscato, Darren 03/14 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF19A1.4F7EC3C0 charset="iso-8859-1"
In response to Joyce Hoffer's note- I = picked up a=20 Navy Sailing CD on PPW and
listen to it every morning. It really = gives me a=20 lift rather than the usual News on the radio. It was playing when my son = called=20 one morning & he recognized the songs and started laughing. I play = it=20 frequently  and my husband  & I find uorselves singing = &=20 humming the tunes, in public no less! Makes me feel good. And it goes = very well=20 with cleaning & cooking too!
 
Melody Moscato, Darren=20 03/14
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF19A1.4F7EC3C0-- *** USNA-NET post by: MOSCATO Darren J 03-G MOSCATO Joseph and Melody ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA18470 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:42:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "USNANET" Subject: usna-net: insurance Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:43:20 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 My Mid told me last year at Thanksgiving that IF he needed medical care while at home he is to go to the closest facility and give them the CHAMPUS info. He has an 800 number with him. We have never needed to have anything done for him since he left June 30 1998. He is still covered under our personal insurance as long as he is a full time college student with at least 13 hours of class, HA HA!!! He wishes ONLY 13!! We have a "family insurance plan" so any and all of our children are covered. They make money on us we only have 2 and one they are getting off the hook with now that he is at the USNA. In response to "Sponson mom, Joyce" the CD A Cappela is just the greatest if you like vocals. I know it was recorded while my Mid was enjoying his High School Days, but I pretend I hear him. I did get the privelege of attendending the Commissioning Concert, Herndon Weekend 1999 and seeing Brad sing with the Men's Glee Club for the first time. I just cannot describe what it was like to see and hear your own Mid among those beautiful voices. Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA18794 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:58:00 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:59:00 EDT Subject: usna-net: Sponsor families don't expect recompense! To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Tony and ALL mid parents: We Sponsors do it for the love of it and for those mids! NO MONEY needed or wanted! It is sheer pleasure to have your sons and daughters visit us!!! I KNOW all the other sponsors agree with me. Your idea of a NW cheese gift was GREAT! Send pictures of the rest of your family, so the sponsors will know your mid's brothers and sisters, grandparents, etc. Visit whenever you're here. New friendships are always welcome. Share news by calling parent-to-sponsor occasionally. I can talk with my plebe's mom for HOURS! (She has 3 sons and so do I.) GO NAVY! BEAT AKRON and ARMY!!! Joyce Hoffer, Sponsor Mom, Annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA18854 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:58:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: PASSWORD CHANGE Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:57:16 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all, Effective immediately the UserName and Password needed to access the Archives have changed to... User Name: brigade Password: carrier PLEASE PRINT THIS MESSAGE AND KEEP IT WHERE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FIND IT. This change is being done for routine security purposes. Also, a short reminder that this information is for MEMBERS ONLY. Do not supply this information to non-members. Doing so will result in the termination of your membership. (Sorry, but dems the rules.) Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA18901 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:59:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "JOSEPH MOSCATO" To: Subject: usna-net: AKRON GAME RESPONSE Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:00:36 -0700 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006D_01BF19A3.71D4D340" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BF19A3.71D4D340 charset="iso-8859-1" Someone asked about getting tickets to Oct. 23=20 AKRON GAME I got two tickets today call 1-800-US4-NAVY I was told there were seats left. Have your MC-VISA card ready, Tickets = can be pi cked up after 9:00 on Sat. morn. MOSCATO 03/14 ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BF19A3.71D4D340 charset="iso-8859-1"
Someone asked  about getting = tickets to Oct.=20 23
AKRON GAME
I got two tickets today call=20 1-800-US4-NAVY
I was told there were seats left. Have = your MC-VISA=20 card ready, Tickets can be pi cked up = after=20 9:00  on Sat. morn.
 
MOSCATO = 03/14
------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BF19A3.71D4D340-- *** USNA-NET post by: MOSCATO Darren J 03-G MOSCATO Joseph and Melody ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA19255 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:14:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Jhb317@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:15:46 EDT Subject: usna-net: Directions Please To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hello, I need directions to the Baltimore Harbor from Annapolis and to the crew meet in Philly. Thank You, Carol Bringhurst 02/19 Josh LTWT CREW Houston, TX *** USNA-NET post by: BRINGHURST Joshua H 02 BRINGHURST Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA19561 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:29:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Sdalziel@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:30:34 EDT Subject: usna-net: Halloween on the yard To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Wow! I came home from work tonight to find 57 awesome messages from you wonderful Navy parents!!!!! (and I did empty my mailbox this morning as usual:-) Needless to say...have been reading, wiping away a tear or two & smiling with total joy at sharing our mid's lives!!!! Thank You All ! It looks like perhaps many of these replies may have gone un-noticed since so many of us are probably guilty of replying to only one..... Have enjoyed the additional chatter! Keep um' coming! I'll throw out a new subject...have any of you heard about the wonderful fun our mids have for Halloween???? I know the upperclass come trick or treating at the plebes rooms...and if they don't have treats ready....the tricks start coming!! I had heard about this ahead of time for my pleber (who is now a 2nd class) and was sure to send a big bag of Sam's penny candies to have on hand.....ready to keep the tricks away...not sure if it helped or not.....they deserve a good round of fun right about now...... To all you plebe families...just wait til' you hear about the pranks they all get into during Army/Navy week...oh my goodness!!! Most of them can't even talk by time the actual game begins...from all the screaming & pre-game PEP...... What fun!! GO NAVY... BEAT ARMY... Sue Dalziel Scott 01/26th B-Rugby Nashville *** USNA-NET post by: DALZIEL Scott 01 DALZIEL Ken and Sue ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA24447 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:45:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Janet Ferrara To: "'USNA Net'" Subject: usna-net: Oral/Dental Surgery Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:46:55 -0700 Hi, all! Re: Dental and Oral surgery, Our Mid, Mike had been complaining just before Christmas break 1997 about his wisdom teeth bothering him. I told him we would get them taken care of here in CA, while he was home. Good son that he is, he didn't want us to have to pay the $1650 (we were quoted). SO when he went back to the Academy they told him, he would be put on a waiting list, a very long list. Then one day he stopped in to see where he was on the "list" and the Dr. said he had some time RIGHT now, ( he had a cancellation, due to a sick Mid) would you like to have it done now? Mike said sure! He called us to let us know the teeth were extracted a week AFTER the surgery and said he went right back to class the next day! Of course he had pain, but he said they take very good care of him and his discomfort. During his plebe year he had a bad case of Plebe Hack and was hospitalized for one day, and said the doctors, nurses and everyone took very good care of him, he had absolutely no complaints about the medical care and felt it was outstanding. Mike happened to call us yesterday and said his best friend just had his wisdoms removed on Friday and was up and running around, feeling just fine! I have heard from other parents that the USNA takes excellent care of our sons and daughters, especially when it comes to health issues. Go Navy, Beat Army! Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, CA Webmaster for USNA Parents' Club of Southern California http://www.web2000.com/usnapcsc Michael, Class of 2000, Co. 15 *** USNA-NET post by: FERRARA Michael 00 FERRARA Janet & Tom ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA24622 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:45:52 -0500 (CDT) From: ELAINEBEST@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:45:54 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Navy Songs To: delhi-joe@erols.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org This message is very apt considering your last name, Melody. Elaine English Brett 00/15 Beaverton, OR *** USNA-NET post by: ENGLISH Brett Michael 00-15 ENGLISH Elaine ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA25164 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:48:13 -0500 (CDT) From: NevesPK@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:49:02 EDT Subject: usna-net: Weekend of October 29-November 1 To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Anyone going to be in Annapolis over the Halloween Weekend? I will be there to hopefully see a Sprint Football Game (they play Princeton)and spend some time with my son.....and would love to meet any of you who might also be there. Pamela Doug 02/22 Sprint Football/Track Oregon *** USNA-NET post by: NEVES Douglas 02 NEVES Pamela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA27420 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:11:00 -0500 (CDT) From: RFDSAD@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:12:06 EDT Subject: usna-net: introducing myself To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi everyone: I'm a brand new member. Happy to be on board. My son, Brendan, is a '98 grad now stationed in Corpus Christi on the USS Defender, a mine sweeper. We are an Annapolis family and currently sponsor two mids: a youngster and a second class. They have become like members of our family. My husband and I grew up in Anne Arundel Co., home of the academy, loved the four years as Navy parents, and enjoy our new role as sponsors. I feel like I've played a lot of roles at the academy over the years. I still correspond with the "mid," a retired Captain, with whom I went to then "June Week," and his ring dance. It has been quite something to see the same wonderful events as a parent. I have three other sons, none of whom went to the academy or wanted to. Brendan was just a different kind of kid. He played club lacrosse and ice hockey at the academy. We have, unfortunately, a lot of experience with Bethesda docs and Navy sports medicine: two surgeries, 17 screws and two plates in one arm. As a result of Bethesda expertise, he is now fine with 95% use of his arm and fully active, still playing lacrosse and hockey! One that note, I'll sign off. Just wanted to say hello and offer ourselves as on site helpers to any parents who may need a local contact. BEAT ARMY! Sharon & Ron D'Anna *** USNA-NET post by: D'ANNA Brendan P 98 D'ANNA Sharon and Ron ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA01220 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:39:28 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:40:33 EDT Subject: usna-net: EASIEST way to Baltimore Harbour To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi! Sponsor Mom here. Trust these directions. They are SO easy, and avoid the Baltimore Beltway (695) completely. Take Rowe Boulevard away from the Capitol. After the stadium, stay in the LEFT lane. Under the underpass, turn left and take Route 50 WEST towards Washington. About 2 or 3 exits further along, turn right onto Route 97 towards Baltimore. Follow 97 North to Exit 14, Route 100 West. Go to 295, the Baltimore-Washington Parkway, and take 295 North into town. It comes in at Camden Yards. Turn right after the baseball stadium (I think it's Pratt Street) and go straight, and you will be at the Harbor. Aquarium, etc. on your right further down. To return, take Lombard Street (one way, one block NORTH of Pratt) back to 295 (I think it's called Green Street where it crosses Lombard), turn South on 295, go to 100, then EAST towards Gibson Island and Glen Burnie and turn South on 97 to 50 and Annapolis. HOPE this helps! Joyce Hoffer *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA09310 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:33:41 -0500 (CDT) From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:34:39 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Oral/Dental Surgery To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Okay........here's a twist for you......during Plebe year Peter went to the dental clinic where they announced to him that indeed he would have to have those 4 wisdom teeth out and get on the list.....Well, he did that.....the time came and it was during the summer and he wasn't there.......so when he got back in the beginning of his youngster year he went back for cleaning etc.....and they x-rayed him again.... Ok......now the diagnosis is......you will definately have to have those TWO wisdom teeth removed...excuse me he says.....but I thought I had 4........they said..well, according to this new xray there only 2!!! Go figure......and so once again, he postponed as long as possible the extraction (he really doesn't like dentists!! as if anybody does)....SOOOOOO he goes back in the beginning of his 3rd class year and they tell him to make an appointment to have the ONE wisdom tooth removed.. Now at this point he is flabbergasted.....Where the *#$&)# did the other three go?? Got me.....meanwhile, I told him....well, wait to go back at the beginning of this year and maybe the lone survivor will have also been absorbed (which is what I am assuming happened.....he may sleep soundly, BUT......I think he would have awakened if someone tried pulling a tooth!!!) Just thought this funny story would make some of you laugh......who knows>>> Dindy Liebert Peter 00/25 *** USNA-NET post by: LIEBERT Peter Paul 00-25 LIEBERT Dorinda and Peter ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA09531 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:49:50 -0500 (CDT) From: TMiller091@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:50:44 EDT Subject: usna-net: Fwd: usna-plebe: trash or treat To: KADZHOME@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org --part1_0.1c273cf9.253d4494_boundary In a message dated 10/18/1999 6:12:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, snoozet@mediaone.net writes: << Halloween is the occasion for TRASH OR TREAT. I found out about it through our Northern Illinois parents' club handbook. Send your plebes plenty of Halloween candy. The upperclass come around for treats. If no treats, then the plebes get trashed! Don't send it TOO early, or the plebes will eat it all! LOL! >> Leslie: No pressure but all our kids hopes ride on YOU !!!!! Tom Miller Matt'03/28 --part1_0.1c273cf9.253d4494_boundary Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: by air-yc05.mail.aol.com (v62.10) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:12:17 -0400 [208.2.110.12]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (v61.13) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:12:00 -0400 by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA20278; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:00:15 -0500 (CDT) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA20262 for usna-plebe-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:00:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:00:26 -0500 From: susy tuthill Organization: MediaOne To: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-plebe: trash or treat Hello everyone! I also want to say thanks to you all for sharing your responses today with the List. This is the how I made it through the summer, with all of your mail and encouragement! Halloween is the occasion for TRASH OR TREAT. I found out about it through our Northern Illinois parents' club handbook. Send your plebes plenty of Halloween candy. The upperclass come around for treats. If no treats, then the plebes get trashed! Don't send it TOO early, or the plebes will eat it all! LOL! Have a great week. Susy Chicago *** USNA-PLEBE post by: TUTHILL James G 03-8 TUTHILL Susy --part1_0.1c273cf9.253d4494_boundary-- *** USNA-NET post by: MILLER Matthew C 03-28 MILLER Thomas ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA10151 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:13:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:13:45 -0400 From: Jack Riismandel Organization: @Home Network X-Accept-Language: en To: George Neverosky CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Women's soccer References: <003b01bf18e7$721d5460$b10b1a3f@oemcomputer> A BIG thank you from the Women's Soccer team & parents for your support and for the tomato pie!! (Especially Kris!!) See you on Friday night!! GO NAVY BEAT Army!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kathy Riismandel > George Neverosky wrote: > > The women's soccer team lost to Colgate yesterday, 1/0 (penality > kick). > Today was a different story with a BIG win over Rider, USNA 6, Rider > 1. > The entire team played great! > Both the men's and women's soccer teams will play army in a > double-header at NAVY on Friday night. > GO NAVY - BEAT ARMY > Kathy Neverosky *** USNA-NET post by: RIISMANDEL Kristen E 00-19 Michael B 03-25 RIISMANDEL Kathy and Jack ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA10279 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:14:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:14:20 -0400 From: Jack Riismandel Organization: @Home Network X-Accept-Language: en To: snowbunny@snip.net CC: Navy Subject: Re: usna-net: Womens Swimming References: <380A94F4.FCF5EFFE@snip.net> CONGRATULATIONS!! The Riismandels Robert Washkevich wrote: > > The Womens Swim Team beat Rider University on Friday and also enjoyed a > victory against Montclair on Saturday. > Go Navy Beat Army, > Bob Washkevich > ALICIA "03" > > *** USNA-NET post by: WASHKEVICH Alicia A. 03-I WASHKEVICH Bob and Chris > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: RIISMANDEL Kristen E 00-19 Michael B 03-25 RIISMANDEL Kathy and Jack ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA11426 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:42:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "RICHARD CLARK" To: "USNA Net" Subject: usna-net: Dental Insurance Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:43:44 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Dear Nancy, In answer to this question: " I have been wondering if our mids' Navy coverage extends to our home areas if the need arises when they are at home, or if they should use the parents' coverage." It has been our experience that the Navy medical/dental insurance will cover expenses incurred with a civilian doctor/dentist only when there is an emergency while he is at home on leave. Mary Ann Clark Warren '00-18th Co. Simi Valley, CA *** USNA-NET post by: CLARK Warren C. 00-18 CLARK Dick and Mary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA09815 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:56:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [207.172.61.29] From: "Lester Wagner" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: Football tickets Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:57:42 EDT Does anyone need two tickets to the Akron homecoming game on this Saturday, October 23. They are on the 20 yard line, Gate O, Section 120, Row 3, seats 22 & 23, upper gold level. The seats are $ 22 each. Please e-mail me if you are interested. Les Wagner Richmond, VA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: WAGNER Lilien A 03-27 WAGNER Lester and Eileen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA09964 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:01:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Msimon2739@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:02:37 EDT Subject: usna-net: Hanoi Jane To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Mike Zets, My plebe just forwarded me a mass mail about Hanoi Jane. This chain is being sent with the hope to remind people of the treason of Jane Fonda now that she is being named one of the 100 Women of the Century. The hope of this chain is that it will get back to her and those that know her. I forget all of the rules and regs of the net and I don't want to jeopordize our great net we have here. ( I don't know how I can do without this net !) Can this chain be posted or shoud I post my personal e-mail address for those that are interested in obtaining it? Gabriela Mike 03 25th *** USNA-NET post by: SIMON Michael D 03-25 SIMON David and Gabriela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA10010 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:03:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: References: <314d0597.253d40cf@aol.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: Oral/Dental Surgery Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:04:15 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 My 2 cents on the wisdom teeth. My Mid was told to have them out before I-Day in 1998. Our personal dentist said Brad's wisdom teeth have great enamel and there is plenty of room for them, they were fully erupted by age 17. The dentist wrote a note to the Academy, Brad had it with him on I-Day. He has been to the dentist for check ups at the Yard and he was told again to have them extracted. Brad reminded them that the teeth are fine and "NOT being removed!" They agreed and he is having "sealants" put on them next month, his name came up on the list. He is almost 20 years old, never had ANY dental work done except check-ups and having sealants to protect the enamel. Make sure you have all the facts before anything is done. It is uncommon for adults to be able to keep their wisdom teeth, most don't have enough room or the teeth do not erupt correctly. My Mid is an exception, but IF he had let them, he would be on that extraction list!! Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA10056 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:04:12 -0500 (CDT) From: NavyPub@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:05:14 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Dental Surgery/Insurance To: Nancy765@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org In my experience with two Mids (now graduates) and too many summer and Christmas leave "incidents," it is better to use your own insurance if you have it (and I hope you kept it)! Yes, the Navy will cover "out of town" emergencies, but it might not be worth the time and trouble. One sore throat took five months to get reimbursed, and then it was not a total reimbursement. This after much hounding by my Midshipman. It gets worse. When they get out into the fleet, if you can't find a doctor who will accept the Navy insurance, you have to pay in full then chase to get reimbursed. One of my sons (who doesn't want to be bothered, his time is too precious) opted to just pay out of his own pocket for a strep throat visit, wasn't worth the hassle, he said. Hopes this helps. Debi Johnston Ian '96 (Pilot), Garth '98 (Submariner) *** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSTON Ian 96-28 and Garth 98-25 JOHNSTON Debi and Fred ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA10364 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:18:40 -0500 (CDT) From: NavyPub@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:18:28 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Oral/Dental Surgery To: LIEBERTCO@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org I'll have to add one more twist. As I said in my last email, I had two sons at the Academy. Being as busy as they all are, they didn't get to see each other on a daily basis. One day the younger one went in for a regular dental appointment. While he was there they took out all four of his wisdom teeth. (Not a planned event on his part!) Later in the afternoon, my older son, a swimmer who had meticulously planned the timing of the removal of his wisdom teeth to work in his training cycle, went in for his surgery. He was told that they had already taken out his teeth that morning! Hello? He waited another three years to have them done! One other point. Our Mids are tough guys/girls, but they don't use the kind of anesthesia or give the recovery time that your sons/daughters would get at home. Yes, there is a kinder, gentler Navy, but it doesn't apply to wisdom teeth removal. It might be kinder to schedule it while they are at home and can have the general anesthesia, especially if they have impacted teeth. Debi Johnston Charlotte NC Ian '96 (Pilot) and Garth '98 (Submariner) *** USNA-NET post by: JOHNSTON Ian 96-28 and Garth 98-25 JOHNSTON Debi and Fred ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA13085 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:22:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:19:33 -0600 Subject: Re: usna-net: Hanoi Jane From: "LeRoy Gravseth" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I also recieved this veru informative E-Mail. I well forward to any that request it I personal don't think it needs to be on the net. LeRoy Gravseth 98,00,02 Poplar Bluff MO ---------- >From: Msimon2739@aol.com >To: usna-net@navy-usna.org >Subject: usna-net: Hanoi Jane >Date: Tue, Oct 19, 1999, 6:02 AM > > Mike Zets, > My plebe just forwarded me a mass mail about Hanoi Jane. This chain is being > sent with the hope to remind people of the treason of Jane Fonda now that she > is being named one of the 100 Women of the Century. The hope of this chain > is that it will get back to her and those that know her. I forget all of the > rules and regs of the net and I don't want to jeopordize our great net we > have here. ( I don't know how I can do without this net !) Can this chain be > posted or shoud I post my personal e-mail address for those that are > interested in obtaining it? > > Gabriela > Mike 03 25th > > *** USNA-NET post by: SIMON Michael D 03-25 SIMON David and Gabriela > > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > *** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA14073 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:45:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" To: , References: <0.d267b50c.253db7dd@aol.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: Hanoi Jane Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:33:34 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 There is a story that was mass mailed recently that was not entirely true. In fact, it contained many outright untruths. The original story, I believe you are referring to, was written and passed along by Jon E. Dougherty, a contributing editor to WorldNetDaily. There also followed shortly an article/retort by Mike McGrath, President of NAM-POWs. This article may or may not have been in response to Jon's article. However, I believe the opening remarks in Mike's article leads one to believe it was, in part, directed that way. At any, rate, I have both of these articles and many others that refer to this subject. Rather than giving Mike Zets a "rules" heart attack, please email me directly and I'll be more than happy to disseminate these net postings and emails privately. I am not trying to step on Mike Zet's toes on this subject. Nor, do hold high regard for Ms. Fonda, but there has been a great deal of misinformation, IMO, on this subject. Follows is the opening paragraph in Mike McGrath's statement on this subject, FYI. <> Best regards, Gregg ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 8:02 AM Subject: usna-net: Hanoi Jane Mike Zets, My plebe just forwarded me a mass mail about Hanoi Jane. This chain is being sent with the hope to remind people of the treason of Jane Fonda now that she is being named one of the 100 Women of the Century. The hope of this chain is that it will get back to her and those that know her. I forget all of the rules and regs of the net and I don't want to jeopordize our great net we have here. ( I don't know how I can do without this net !) Can this chain be posted or shoud I post my personal e-mail address for those that are interested in obtaining it? Gabriela Mike 03 25th *** USNA-NET post by: SIMON Michael D 03-25 SIMON David and Gabriela *** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA14127 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:48:58 -0500 (CDT) From: AZ3@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:50:01 EDT Subject: usna-net: Wisdom teeth To: usna-net@navy-usna.org After the DODMERB physical, we received a notice requiring that two of four impacted wisdom teeth be removed. Based on family dental history, we decided it would be better to remove all four using our own oral surgeon rather than risk problems later. Our dental insurance would not cover any of the cost arguing that it was unnecessary at the time. The oral surgeon said he was always impressed by Naval Academy Midshipmen so he did the work for free as his patriotic contribution. Alan Zwirblis Jay 03-14 *** USNA-NET post by: ZWIRBLIS Jay Alan 03-14 ZWIRBLIS Alan and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA14187 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:49:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Msimon2739@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:50:28 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Hanoi Jane To: mzets@mail.com CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Thanks Mike---I had no idea--that's why I asked. I am also posting this on the net so that other parents are reminded that it's a lot easier to ask and find out before doing something wrong. This net is too important to risk a mistake. For those of you that don't check time, I posted my question at 8:09 am and got a response by 8:29 am. For those of you that requested a copy to be forwarded to you--sorry. Because of the controversy, I am done with this issue. Thanks again Mike ! Gabriela Mike 03 25th *** USNA-NET post by: SIMON Michael D 03-25 SIMON David and Gabriela ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA14962 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:20:10 -0500 (CDT) From: dlgunkel@mmm.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: 3M-CORPORATE To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:15:54 -0500 Subject: Re: usna-net: Fwd: usna-plebe: trash or treat Content-Disposition: inline My son told me a story about the time at Halloween that the name plates on the door to some plebes' room were switched with those of upperclassmen. When the upperclassmen came to the room, there were no treats or mids on hand, so the room got trashed! Don Gunkel Austin, Texas TMiller091@aol.com on 10/18/99 10:50:44 PM To: KADZHOME@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org cc: (bcc: Donald L. Gunkel/AT-Austin/3M/US) Subject: usna-net: Fwd: usna-plebe: trash or treat In a message dated 10/18/1999 6:12:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, snoozet@mediaone.net writes: << Halloween is the occasion for TRASH OR TREAT. I found out about it through our Northern Illinois parents' club handbook. Send your plebes plenty of Halloween candy. The upperclass come around for treats. If no treats, then the plebes get trashed! Don't send it TOO early, or the plebes will eat it all! LOL! >> Leslie: No pressure but all our kids hopes ride on YOU !!!!! Tom Miller Matt'03/28 Return-Path: by air-yc05.mail.aol.com (v62.10) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:12:17 -0400 [208.2.110.12]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (v61.13) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:12:00 -0400 (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA20278; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:00:15 -0500 (CDT) (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA20262 for usna-plebe-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:00:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:00:26 -0500 From: susy tuthill Organization: MediaOne To: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-plebe: trash or treat Hello everyone! I also want to say thanks to you all for sharing your responses today with the List. This is the how I made it through the summer, with all of your mail and encouragement! Halloween is the occasion for TRASH OR TREAT. I found out about it through our Northern Illinois parents' club handbook. Send your plebes plenty of Halloween candy. The upperclass come around for treats. If no treats, then the plebes get trashed! Don't send it TOO early, or the plebes will eat it all! LOL! Have a great week. Susy Chicago *** USNA-PLEBE post by: TUTHILL James G 03-8 TUTHILL Susy *** USNA-NET post by: GUNKEL Bryan Scott 00-17 GUNKEL Don and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA15009 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:20:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Judi123456@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:21:25 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Oral/Dental Surgery To: usna-net@navy-usna.org We avoided the whole problem with having the Navy extract our daughter's wisdom teeth. When she was in her senior year of high school, I had talked by phone with a newly commissioned ensign who was working at the clinic until he was sent down to Pensacola. He told me that the academy has all the plebes' wisdom teeth extracted. Obviously, from what I have been reading on the net, this was not completely accurate information. But, since we knew that there was no doubt that Sarah would eventually need her wisdom teeth removed, we got a referral to a local oral surgeon. Even though her teeth were not fully formed, the surgeon said he could extract them and it would actually be easier to do then rather than wait until they were impacted. Our dental insurance paid the entire bill. It worked out great because Sarah was able to have this done during a vacation rather than deal with the pain while trying to do homework. Also, she was able to have general anesthesia which the Navy will not provide. I would suggest that if your son or daughter would rather not deal with this in the midst of all their other responsbilities and would prefer general anesthesia, you go for a consultation with an oral surgeon at home and let them determine whether the wisdom teeth will definitely have to be extracted. They can also tell you whether your own dental insurance will cover it, and if so, you could set up an appointment for the surgery during spring break or summer leave. Judi Pezzat 02/27 *** USNA-NET post by: PEZZAT Sarah B 02-27 PEZZAT Jorge and Judith ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA17835 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:57:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [208.244.44.24] From: "Teri Sweatman" To: Judi123456@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Oral/Dental Surgery Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:58:50 EDT That was the previous policy of the Academy, but I understand that that had changed this spring....Dan was told by DODMERB to have his perfectly harmless wisom teeth, that were coming in straight, and causing him no problem to be extracted, and our dentist wrote a few letters and they concurred that they were harmless and would probrbly never bother him so he didn't have to have them out. I spoke to someone in Colorado at DODMERB, and he said they are not pulling all of the wisdom teeth of military candidates like they used too...too much unecessary surgery. And apparently some plebes are getting to keep their harmless wisdom teeth too. Teri Sweatman Tom'97 (1st Lt. USMC) Dan '03 22 (JV Football) Northport,(Long Island) NY ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: SWEATMAN Dan 03-22 SWEATMAN Mike and Teri ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA19269 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:06:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "WAYNE QUAYLE" To: "usna-net" Subject: usna-net: Teeth and Surgeries Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:09:53 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Thanks for reminding me to have the Plebe's wisdom teeth status reviewed during Christmas leave. Her civilian brothers have had two different experiences. 1. The 16 year old's were all impacted and removed the week before our visit for PPW. We do not have dental insurance. However. it WAS COVERED under major medical. Of course we had to pay the nominal deductible. 2. The 21 year old has plenty of room in his mouth and all wisdom teeth came in with no problem. He, however, has a dental implant because of a congenitally missing tooth. This course was decided during orthodontia about 7 years ago.. It involved two surgeries and then the prosthesis. What a beautiful smile he has! And you can't tell which is the "fake" tooth. Best of luck to the mid getting the implant! He will be happy with the end result. Go Navy! Beat Army! Kathie Quayle Lisa 03/24 Women's Swimming Houston, TX *** USNA-NET post by: QUAYLE Lisa Marie 03 QUAYLE Wayne and Kathie ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA19628 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:18:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Bruzar@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:19:19 EDT Subject: usna-net: Fwd: Vist to Yard To: usna-net@navy-usna.org --part1_0.5fc5d5b8.253de5f7_boundary --part1_0.5fc5d5b8.253de5f7_boundary Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Bruzar@aol.com From: Bruzar@aol.com Full-name: Bruzar Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:54:00 EDT Subject: Vist to Yard To: usna@navy-unsa.org Hi Everyone: My husband and I went to see our son the weekend of Oct. 8-11. What a great football game and wonderful weekend we had. We invited out Mid's sponsor family to have lunch on Sunday, but they wanted us to come to dinner at their home. They are truly incredible people. It was wonderful getting to know them and their family. I can see why my son loves going to their home. We also found out that one of my son's high school teachers was at the Yard the weekend with her husband (a USNA grad), so looked Bryan up and they got to visit. When she went back to CA, She shared pictures of Bryan with her class and they spent the entire class talking about our son and his younger brother. The kids really enjoyed it, partly because they got out of taking a test, and called us in Texas to tell us about how neat it was to see the pictures and hear about how Bryan was doing. I thought it was nice that the teachers still care about our children after they leave and want to know how they are doing. She said she would probably go to see him next year so she could continue reporting back to his teachers. It's nice to know that so many people care so much about our children and especially the sponsor families who help when the parents are so far away. Thank you to all of you. Nina Bryan 03/17 --part1_0.5fc5d5b8.253de5f7_boundary-- *** USNA-NET post by: PETERSON Bryan A 03-17 PETERSON Mark and Nina ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA25627 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:23:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:25:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: JWHEnterp@aol.com cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: Re: usna-net: Sponsor Mom: REPLY In-Reply-To: <0.16822d18.253d03c3@aol.com> For those of you who are very short changed from lack of employment or illness (get well soon) there are other presents to give: 1. write your child a letter and tell him/her exactly how you feel about them. 2. make a book (small spiral one) of all your favorite recipies. 3. collect all those drawings from grade school you saved also little trinkets they made for you when they were younger (see it does pay to save things that others think are junk). 4. if you have a treasured collection, give them part of it. 5. make a coupon book of tickets saying that you will: take them fishing, go to a movie with them,cook them their favorite dessert or dinner....et al. 6. get inexpensive aprons (yes, even for the guys--they cook too) and write their name on the front and just do a back stitch to for all time preserve their name on the apron. If you do not know how to do this, take yourself to a craft store where you would get the thread and needle and ask them to show you. 7. have lots of videos, give them the best set you have 8. relieve them of a small debt they owe you. 9. give them that baby book you have been saving since they were born.....the girlfriends love this. 10. write a story about their birth and what you felt when you first held your newborn. 11. just take them, by themselves, for a walk, or just tell them that you love them. Just give something of yourself. That is what they need the most. I found myself in this position for a few years and I used all of the above....and they loved it and continue to use what I gave them. Presents are great, but the best ones come from the heart and it takes very little money,if any, to give. peace and hugs...Jo Oliver John'97 Leesburg FL *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA26106 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:44:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:46:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Oliver X-Sender: joliver@bookworm To: Janet Ferrara cc: "'USNA Net'" Subject: Re: usna-net: Oral/Dental Surgery In-Reply-To: <01BF1999.2D48CE20.ferrara@ez2.net> If I am not mistaken, don't all the mids get their wisdom teeth extracted sometime during their 4 years? I heard they would rather do that then have to have an emergency when they deployed. peace and hugs...Jo Oliver John '97 Leesburg FL On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Janet Ferrara wrote: > Hi, all! > > Re: Dental and Oral surgery, > > Our Mid, Mike had been complaining just before Christmas break 1997 about > his wisdom teeth bothering him. I told him we would get them taken care of > here in CA, while he was home. Good son that he is, he didn't want us to > have to pay the $1650 (we were quoted). SO when he went back to the Academy > they told him, he would be put on a waiting list, a very long list. Then > one day he stopped in to see where he was on the "list" and the Dr. said he > had some time RIGHT now, ( he had a cancellation, due to a sick Mid) would > you like to have it done now? Mike said sure! He called us to let us know > the teeth were extracted a week AFTER the surgery and said he went right > back to class the next day! Of course he had pain, but he said they take > very good care of him and his discomfort. > > During his plebe year he had a bad case of Plebe Hack and was hospitalized > for one day, and said the doctors, nurses and everyone took very good care > of him, he had absolutely no complaints about the medical care and felt it > was outstanding. > > Mike happened to call us yesterday and said his best friend just had his > wisdoms removed on Friday and was up and running around, feeling just fine! > > I have heard from other parents that the USNA takes excellent care of our > sons and daughters, especially when it comes to health issues. > > Go Navy, Beat Army! > Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, CA > Webmaster for USNA Parents' Club of Southern California > http://www.web2000.com/usnapcsc > Michael, Class of 2000, Co. 15 > > > > > *** USNA-NET post by: FERRARA Michael 00 FERRARA Janet & Tom > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > *** USNA-NET post by: OLIVER John 97 OLIVER Jo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA27428 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:56:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Tom Worthing" To: "USNA" Subject: usna-net: Oral/dental surgery Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:57:34 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 My daughter was to have her four wisdom teeth removed during the summer prior to her Firstie year. We had an oral surgeon do the work so our health insurance would cover it. Also thought that it was be less painful. It turned out that she had two dry sockets and she was miserable. She left home to go back to the academy to be part of the brigade staff. Her face still swollen from the surgery, she got worse and then she found out she had an infection that comes three weeks after surgery. She was taken to the hospital and given antibiotics that finally conquered the infection. Some people have more trouble than others and every person has a unique set of circumstances surrounding wisdom teeth. Our oral surgeon said that he had patients from 11 years old to 95 years old. I guess that the only thing to say about removing wisdom teeth is "if you don't need to remove them, Don't." Maybe that is the thinking of our military leaders and why the academies are not requiring mids to have them removed. Tom Worthing worthingt@hutchcc.edu Chris, USNA 01/14 Co. Go Navy! Laura, 2LT USMAPS, Go Army! Amy, NJ Nanny *** USNA-NET post by: WORTHING Tom&Connie 01 Chris ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA27813 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:18:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Kathy_Dennis To: "'Tom Worthing'" , USNA Subject: RE: usna-net: Oral/dental surgery Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:23:49 -0400 I guess I missed something. Is removing wisdom teeth prior to graduation mandatory or not? I've been reading my e-mails very quickly today and until reading Tom Worthing's note, thought it was. I even scheduled an evaluation appointment during the Christmas holiday. > ----Original Message----- > From: Tom Worthing [SMTP:worthingt@hutchcc.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 2:58 PM > To: USNA > Subject: usna-net: Oral/dental surgery > > My daughter was to have her four wisdom teeth removed during the > summer prior to her Firstie year. We had an oral surgeon do the work > so our health insurance would cover it. Also thought that it was be > less painful. It turned out that she had two dry sockets and she was > miserable. She left home to go back to the academy to be part of the > brigade staff. Her face still swollen from the surgery, she got worse > and then she found out she had an infection that comes three weeks > after surgery. She was taken to the hospital and given antibiotics > that finally conquered the infection. > > Some people have more trouble than others and every person has a > unique set of circumstances surrounding wisdom teeth. Our oral surgeon > said that he had patients from 11 years old to 95 years old. > > I guess that the only thing to say about removing wisdom teeth is "if > you don't need to remove them, Don't." Maybe that is the thinking of > our military leaders and why the academies are not requiring mids to > have them removed. > > Tom Worthing > worthingt@hutchcc.edu > Chris, USNA 01/14 Co. Go Navy! > Laura, 2LT USMAPS, Go Army! > Amy, NJ Nanny > > > *** USNA-NET post by: WORTHING Tom&Connie 01 Chris > > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > *** USNA-NET post by: DENNIS William J 03 DENNIS Kathy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA09170 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:28:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "Tom Worthing" To: "USNA" Subject: usna-net: wisdom teeth removal Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:30:24 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Let me clarify my recent email. I ASSUMED that mandatory removal of wisdom teeth was changed. I must have misread the previous emails. I do not know that this whether this rule has changed. Does someone know for sure? I am sorry for the miscommunication. Tom Worthing worthingt@hutchcc.edu Chris, USNA 01/14 Co. Go Navy! Laura, 2LT USMAPS, Go Army! Amy, NJ Nanny *** USNA-NET post by: WORTHING Tom&Connie 01 Chris ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA10038 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:55:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "Alicia Payne" To: Subject: usna-net: Christmas Present Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:55:51 -0400 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01B3_01BF1A52.CCEEB660" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01B3_01BF1A52.CCEEB660 charset="iso-8859-1" Another Christmas present idea (for upperclassmen): A microphone for = his/her computer, and yours if you don't have one.=20 This idea came from our Mid who said that we could move up from IM to an = actual voice chat. We and he (and grandparents,etc.) downloaded voice = chat software (we used Yahoo pager but I know there are others). Now we = can "talk" to him free on line. It works very well too, although less = well when you have more than 2 parties in on the voice chat. OK, we = couldn't wait till Christmas and the mikes are only about $10-$15 (but = not sold at the Mid Store). Alicia Payne - Bernardsville, NJ - Tim '02/28 ------=_NextPart_000_01B3_01BF1A52.CCEEB660 charset="iso-8859-1"
Another Christmas present idea (for = upperclassmen):=20 A microphone for his/her computer, and yours if you don't have one.=20
 
This idea came from our Mid who said = that we could=20 move up from IM to an actual voice chat. We and he (and = grandparents,etc.)=20 downloaded voice chat software (we used Yahoo pager but I know there are = others). Now we can "talk" to him free on line. It works very well too, = although=20 less well when you have more than 2 parties in on the voice chat. OK, we = couldn't wait till Christmas and the mikes are only about $10-$15 (but = not sold=20 at the Mid Store).
 
Alicia Payne - Bernardsville, NJ - Tim=20 '02/28
------=_NextPart_000_01B3_01BF1A52.CCEEB660-- *** USNA-NET post by: PAYNE Timothy Charles 02-28 PAYNE Alice J. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA11164 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:41:35 -0500 (CDT) From: PWestover@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:42:29 EDT Subject: usna-net: Insurance To: usna-net@navy-usna.org I may have missed all the discussion about insurance, but quickly read one of the letters from a parent who stated their Mid was covered because he/she was a full-time college student. My daughter (Class of '98) was also on our family policy. We actually talked to her Company Officer, who sent us a letter verifying that she was a full-time student at the Academy. Evidently this was a common request at USNA because they had a form letter ready to be mailed out when I called. I explained the entire situation to our insurance company, and they said that the letter from the Academy would be sufficient to keep her on our policy. This all occurred in '94 and we continued to pay increased premiums to keep her on our policy. In the Fall of 1997 she was home and had a stress fracture in her femur. The long and short of this sad story is that they did not cover anything because she was active duty military, but were happy to take our increased premium for four years. We are still fighting the battle to get our premium refund. Make sure you get it in writing that they will cover an active duty military as a dependant. Good luck! If anyone else has info regarding this, I would be very interested. We have always advised our Parent's Club members to keep their Mids on their policies since Tennessee has very few Navy bases!! Pam Westover (Katy - '98, 02) *** USNA-NET post by: WESTOVER Catherine Maaghan 98-2 WESTOVER Pamela and Robert ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA13976 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:54:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nancy Patterson" To: "USNA" References: <000901bf1a70$c62f2120$906464ce@hutchcc.edu> Subject: Re: usna-net: wisdom teeth removal Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:54:38 -0500 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 OK, back to the teeth. My Youngster/Mid is keeping his wisdom teeth, a. because they are fully erupted and correctly erupted b. because the have a thick layer of enamel ( often the enamel on 3rd molars is thin predisposing them to decay) c. because there is PLENTY of room in his mouth to keep them brushed d. becuase we have a letter from our dentist stating a, b & c e. becuase Brad said leave them in IF I have a problem I will let you know I do not believe there is a "set in stone" rule on wisdom teeth/third molars. It depends on the individual Mid and his/her mouth and teeth. Relax, don't make any appointments unless your Mid is having problems and needs to have them extracted. Now for the old cure for an extracted tooth. Instead of holding a guaze pack in the socket, our dentist always has his patients switch to dry tea bags. The tannic acid in them stops bleeding! IF the occasion ever arrises though I will try the bubble gum after the bleeding stops!! Nancy *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Nancy A Patterson nancyp@dialnet.net (417) 743-2327 S.W. Missouri Brad 02/CO 19 Men's Glee Club *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* *** USNA-NET post by: PATTERSON Bradley 02-19 PATTERSON Todd & Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA14206 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:13:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Nancy765@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:14:07 EDT Subject: usna-net: Ice bags for wisdom teeth To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi all, Yes, it sounds like many mids will be visiting the oral surgeon over their holiday breaks. When my son had his SIX wisdom teeth removed (his dad has seven-still intact), we had the surgery before he entered the academy for various reasons: insurance, local oral surgeon, but most of all Mom's TLC. The best trick we used which helped speed the healing process was nearly 'round the clock ice packs. We took a pair of old, clean, really long, tube socks and pinned them together at the toes. Then take freezer bags (not regular plastic bags) and fill with crushed ice. Insert ice-filled bags into the socks and tie the socks under the chin and up and over the head. Have a couple pair of socks on hand so that one pair can be washed and dried while the other is in use. Steve didn't swell at all - and for six teeth removed, that was pretty good. He could even lay down, lay on his side or walk around and the ice bags stayed in place. On what has become a typical "Navy dental note", once at the academy, the dentist told Steve that he needed to have his wisdom teeth removed!!!! Nancy Rogers Steve 02/26 Hamilton, OH *** USNA-NET post by: ROGERS Stephen J. 02-26 ROGERS Randy and Nancy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA14990 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:50:03 -0500 (CDT) From: RGallag589@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:51:06 EDT Subject: usna-net: Second Class Pictures To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi, Does anyone know if individual formal pictures have been taken yet of second class mids? My son has no idea and says it hasn't happened yet. The weekly schedule indicated that other classes are now being taken. In past years they have been taken in time to get these pictures by Christmas. I hope he didn't miss it. I really wanted to have one from each of the four years. Dolores *** USNA-NET post by: GALLAGHER Robert M 01-2 PREZYNA Dolores and David ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA15019 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:50:33 -0500 (CDT) From: MarkMLakes@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:51:35 EDT Subject: usna-net: Submarine Tour To: usna-net@navy-usna.org We're heading down for the football this weekend and our Mid said there would be a 688 LA class attack submarine visiting we could possibly tour. Anyone heard anything more about this, such as when it'll be available-before and/or after the game etc. He said that mids get first priority and then they let the public aboard. Any info and/or advise would be much appreciated. Mark Christensen Medford Lakes, NJ Dan 03/19 *** USNA-NET post by: CHRISTENSEN Daniel L 03-19 CHRISTENSEN Mark ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA17722 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:37:24 -0500 (CDT) From: MPOVONDRA@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:38:24 EDT Subject: usna-net: Insurance To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi All; I have just read about car insurance while our Mids are home on leave. I first must say that before my son was a Mid, he was a Marine. When he first got out of boot camp, I was with a not so nice insurance company. When my son was on leave, the insurance company had me pay $10.00 per day for my son. Well, I got rid of that insurance company, and went with another one. This one was not as bad as the first one, they only charged me $7.50 per day. Well, once again I changed. This time I found out from the insurance company about their policy regarding military children on leave. Now, all I have to do is call the insurance company, and they ask me for the dates of his leave. I do not pay any monies while he is on leave. Before he had to report to the Academy, he and his brother drove from Newport, RI to Sacramento, CA, and he was entirely covered, no questioned asked. There is no need for letters or any other type of documentation. If any parent would like to know the name of my insurance company, please contact me directly. Marc F. Povondra Marc T. 03/14 *** USNA-NET post by: POVONDRA Marc T 03-14 POVONDRA Marc and Theo ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18386 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:02:18 -0500 (CDT) From: YupKim@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:03:24 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Second Class Pictures To: RGallag589@aol.com CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org My mid, Jeremy 01/20, told us that the pictures are for Plebes and Firsties only. Yup & Bonnie Kim Houston, TX *** USNA-NET post by: KIM Jeremy Lee 01-20 KIM Yup ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18668 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:13:58 -0500 (CDT) From: MTBLEAU@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:14:05 EDT Subject: usna-net: Remedy for Wisdon Teeth swelling To: usna-net@navy-usna.org THE best ice treatment I have used is packages of frozen peas ! Keep two on the kid, and two in the freezer and keep changing every hour or so. Perfect temperature and no leaks or drips ! They mold to the face. My mid did real well with them. Carol M Zach '00 *** USNA-NET post by: FARRAR Zachary 00 MONTBLEAU Carol ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA19776 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:28:32 -0500 (CDT) From: EBlind1520@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:25:35 EDT Subject: usna-net: Homecoming Tickets and Hotel Room To: usna-net@navy-usna.org In a typical case of over kill, looking forward to my first Navy homecoming game, I figured everyone wanted to go. Oh well. I have three extra tickets (Sec 1/Row 18) @ $22.00 each and an extra hotel room reservation for Friday and Saturday night at the Raddison (old Holiday Inn on Riva Road). I plan to be at the hotel NLT 1800 Friday. Contact me (I'll check the e-mail hourly) and we'll work out the details. Ed Blind Patrick '03/21 (D&B) *** USNA-NET post by: BLIND Patrick E 03-21 BLIND Ed and Joan ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA22465 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:43:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Norton Smiley" To: "usna net" Cc: References: <0.f7cd54c2.253e5dea@aol.com> Subject: Re: usna-net: Second Class Pictures Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:47:39 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Dolores et al, Never fear; the company that has the contract to take the pictures would never let an opportunity go by wherein they can take pictures every year. Our Firstie son, has had a picture taken every year; although we have not seen this year's proofs yet. We have gotten at least one package (they are expensive) every year. My son was not fond of his 3rd or 2nd class pictures but we got them anyway. His plebe pictures were good, so we got some big ones to send to 'grandma' and for Mom & Dad. They will come sometime, but as usual, not according to our desired schedule. Norton Smiley Devin, '00/22nd ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 7:51 PM Subject: usna-net: Second Class Pictures > Hi, > > Does anyone know if individual formal pictures have been taken yet of second > class mids? My son has no idea and says it hasn't happened yet. The weekly > schedule indicated that other classes are now being taken. In past years > they have been taken in time to get these pictures by Christmas. I hope he > didn't miss it. I really wanted to have one from each of the four years. > > Dolores > > *** USNA-NET post by: GALLAGHER Robert M 01-2 PREZYNA Dolores and David > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > > *** USNA-NET post by: SMILEY Devin A 00-22 SMILEY Norton and Harriet ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA24744 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:55:09 -0500 (CDT) From: STereshko@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:56:08 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Submarine Tour To: MarkMLakes@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org Looks like you need reservations. Here's the info that we received on the USS Pittsburgh visit. Good Luck. Subj: USS Pittsburgh homecoming visit- FYI Date: 10/18/99 8:12:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: USNAAA@usna.com (AlumUSNA) Reply-to: USNAAA@usna.com To: STereshko@aol.com Subject: USS Pittsburgh homecoming visit Greetings, The USS Pittsburgh submarine visit is back on! For those of you who requested tickets earlier via LTJG Hull-Ryde, your reservations are still good. Please pick-up tickets no earlier than Tuesday at the Public Affairs Office, by Gate 3. Email me if you are interested in these still-open slots, first-come,first serve: Friday, Oct. 22, 1999 0830 0930 1530 Saturday, Oct 23 1430 1530 All visitors must be eight years or older to visit the submarine. R/Pam Warnken Deputy PAO *** USNA-NET post by: TERESHKO AJ 00-2 Daniel 02-14 TERESHKO Sue and Jim ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25864 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:08:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Tish" To: , Subject: Re: usna-net: Oral/Dental Surgery Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:06:20 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Fortunately for us and our son, his wisdom teeth started acting up a mere 2 months before 'I" Day, so we went ahead, of course, and had them removed BEFORE going to the Academy, thus preventing lots of problems due to missed work, prt's, meals, and pain. It came at the perfect time for him, although we ended up paying for 2/3 of it due to inferior dental coverage of my employment. small potatoes compared to having to wait, endure pain without anesthesia, etc. etc. Sometimes the timing of life events are inexplicably, remarkably incredible!! We're happy it turned out this way for him. He hasn't had to worry for now almost 2 years since it's "done." I must say, these stories are fascinating, and rather complicated!! Tish Sorensen, Eric 02. -----Original Message----- From: Judi123456@aol.com To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 8:25 AM Subject: Re: usna-net: Oral/Dental Surgery >We avoided the whole problem with having the Navy extract our daughter's >wisdom teeth. When she was in her senior year of high school, I had talked >by phone with a newly commissioned ensign who was working at the clinic until >he was sent down to Pensacola. He told me that the academy has all the >plebes' wisdom teeth extracted. Obviously, from what I have been reading on >the net, this was not completely accurate information. > >But, since we knew that there was no doubt that Sarah would eventually need >her wisdom teeth removed, we got a referral to a local oral surgeon. Even >though her teeth were not fully formed, the surgeon said he could extract >them and it would actually be easier to do then rather than wait until they >were impacted. Our dental insurance paid the entire bill. It worked out >great because Sarah was able to have this done during a vacation rather than >deal with the pain while trying to do homework. Also, she was able to have >general anesthesia which the Navy will not provide. > >I would suggest that if your son or daughter would rather not deal with this >in the midst of all their other responsbilities and would prefer general >anesthesia, you go for a consultation with an oral surgeon at home and let >them determine whether the wisdom teeth will definitely have to be extracted. > They can also tell you whether your own dental insurance will cover it, and >if so, you could set up an appointment for the surgery during spring break or >summer leave. > >Judi Pezzat >02/27 > >*** USNA-NET post by: PEZZAT Sarah B 02-27 PEZZAT Jorge and Judith > >Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > >Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > *** USNA-NET post by: SORENSEN Eric 02-12 SORENSEN Gary and Letitia ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25922 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:09:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:41:45 -0400 From: Richard Santillo To: Navy Net Listserver Subject: usna-net: Lucky Bag Photos The individual photos are mandatory for plebes and firsties. Mids in other classes may also have individual portraits made. The trick is to find out whe they can do this. Whoever posted the address for scheduling, could you post it again. The last time I checked, the photos times were for companies and plebes. Surely, they'll have a time for 01 and 02 soon??? Bev (hoping for a new photo to show off) Santillo Doug 01/19 *** USNA-NET post by: SANTILLO Douglas 01-19 SANTILLO Richard and Beverly ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA29539 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:28:25 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:29:15 EDT Subject: usna-net: Kudos to Jo Oliver! To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Sponsor Mom thinks Jo Oliver has some GREAT ideas! Add one more, which I am VERY VERY VERY sorry I never heeded and am afraid it is now too late: Purchase an inexpensive scrapbook or photo album. Get out those boxes and boxes of old family photos. Separate out the ones from the time your mid was a baby and paste/stick them all in! Let him and your other kids and relatives laugh and cry as they remember all the good times! Your mid can take it with him when she/he gets married. Joyce Hoffer, Annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA29672 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:34:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:34:38 -0400 From: "Robert L. Loser" X-Accept-Language: en To: MPOVONDRA@aol.com, USNA-NET Subject: Re: usna-net: Insurance References: <0.656f8753.253e6900@aol.com> Marc: Please keep in mind when you dispense insurance information to the readers of this net that insurance laws and regulations vary from state to state. What may be true in your state may be totally different in another state, even though the same insurance carrier is involved. The best thing any parent with insurance questions can do, is call their own insurance company or insurance agent to find out how the laws and regulations affect them and their Mid. Bob Loser Eric 03/06 Heavyweight Crew MPOVONDRA@aol.com wrote: > Hi All; > > I have just read about car insurance while our Mids are home on leave. I > first must say that before my son was a Mid, he was a Marine. When he first > got out of boot camp, I was with a not so nice insurance company. When my > son was on leave, the insurance company had me pay $10.00 per day for my son. > Well, I got rid of that insurance company, and went with another one. This > one was not as bad as the first one, they only charged me $7.50 per day. > Well, once again I changed. This time I found out from the insurance company > about their policy regarding military children on leave. Now, all I have to > do is call the insurance company, and they ask me for the dates of his leave. > I do not pay any monies while he is on leave. Before he had to report to > the Academy, he and his brother drove from Newport, RI to Sacramento, CA, and > he was entirely covered, no questioned asked. There is no need for letters > or any other type of documentation. > If any parent would like to know the name of my insurance company, please > contact me directly. > Marc F. Povondra > Marc T. 03/14 > > *** USNA-NET post by: POVONDRA Marc T 03-14 POVONDRA Marc and Theo > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: LOSER Eric S 03-6 LOSER Robert ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA00463 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:03:33 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [163.179.204.54] From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Subject: usna-net: extra Ticket Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:57:16 EDT To all, My daughter has to stay home and practice her role in Nutcracker, and that leaves us with one extra Akron ticket. Why wait in line at the stadium at the crack of dawn when you can have a ticket delivered to you on friday night or saturday morning. Ticket is for Upper Blue, Sect 108 Row 4 and only $22.00. Please advise if interested. Be Loud! Be Proud! Go Navy! Have A Great Navy Day! Anne & Dennis Kolb Matt 03 7th Co. Long Island, NY, USA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** USNA-NET post by: KOLB Matthew V 03-7 KOLB Anne and Dennis ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA00569 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:06:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Andidr1@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:07:14 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Lucky Bag Photos To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Below is the address for scheduling http://www.nadn.navy.mil/Schedules/ If you are looking for this weeks schedule you can use the list on the left of the Schedule page or go directly to http://www.nadn.navy.mil/Schedules/text.twau.txt This page really gives a lot of information if you are willing to sort through everything. I have not noticed anything on this week or next week's schedule for 3/c or 2/c taking formal Lucky Bag Pictures. There is a contact person associated with all the Lucky Bag info. Perhaps your Mid could email them and find more info. Hope this helps. Andrea Darone Middletown, DE *** USNA-NET post by: DARONE Gregory M 03-21 DARONE Dave and Andrea ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA02072 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:25:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: A Message from Your Moderator Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:14:16 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 To all, There has been way to little attention paid lately about to which List a message should be addressed. Please keep the "chatter" on USNA-Plebe, even if it's not necessarily Plebe related. It's designed for the chattier stuff. We'd like to reserve USNA-Net for the serious items and questions, answers and information that are applicable to everyone. Next, remember to use PLAIN TEXT in all your messages to any of our Lists. Rich Text Format (RTF) is not allowed. For more information see our FAQs page on the website. (www.navy-usna.org) For those of you that have complained about the volume of messages, quit your griping. Use the delete key or unsubscribe. Besides the fact that we receive each message twice here at the Zets household (one for me and one for Sandi), I received 248 individual, additional messages since midnight last night telling me that so and so's email box is full or that a message had a fatal address error or that a message was undeliverable for now but delivery would be attempted every two hours for the next xx days. You wouldn't believe the number of servers that get the "message hiccups" every day when you're dealing with a group this size. Remember the situation a few days ago when USNA's server was rejecting your email to your Mids? Just compound that by four hundred different servers that you all use and then times the number of messages that get sent to a list in one day. Every undeliverable piece of email generates a message to me, personally. If you're a long time member of any of our lists, you have benefited immensely when all of your "silly" questions were answered back in April or June. Please exercise a little patience (now that you're one of the ol' timers) with the newbies out there that finally got up the courage to ask a question and really don't know where else to find the answer. Yes, the archives are there but they're getting to be HUGE and difficult to locate an answer in unless you have all the time in the world to search. (Newbies - please "try" the archives first, then ask the question.) To help keep the archives down to size, please DO NOT QUOTE the Original message in a reply to our Lists Many of you are guilty of this. Instead "cut and paste" a line or two between <<< >>> so that others will know what you are talking about. If a message gets quoted in several successive generations of mail, even short replies become HUGE email messages and clog up the archives with needless text. Some of you must still be going to our website since about an hour ago, we recorded our 30,000th visit by someone out there. Not bad for a site that was only put up on the Internet in mid February of this year. There's a wealth of information right there on the site. Look at the INDEX for cross referenced topics on just about everything that's on the site. Lastly, keep the posting coming. This network is for parents to interact with other parents in sharing experiences, advice and questions/answers. It's not for just a few. It's for everyone to use (but not abuse). Best regards, Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Mike ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA06640 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:41:35 -0500 (CDT) From: DCA01@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:43:07 EDT Subject: usna-net: Liberty Tree To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Last night on CNN, there was a short note about the last existing Liberty Tree. It is located on St. Johns campus, a couple of blocks from the Yard. The tree was damaged during Hurricane Floyd. Apparently the damage is extensive. As a result, the tree will be taken down. If your sons or daughters are out jogging, they might want to take a swing by for a last look. Nancy Aubel Erik 00/12 *** USNA-NET post by: AUBEL Erik 00-12 AUBEL Nancy and Dave ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA06804 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:57:12 -0500 (CDT) From: EFi3346410@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:58:14 EDT Subject: usna-net: liberty tree To: usna-net@navy-usna.org On this mornings news, they said that Floyd did enough damage to the liberty tree in Annapolis that it is coming down. Samples are in a lab to create, hopefully, trees to be planted in every state. If you are going to be in Annapolis soon, visit the St. John's campus with your mid and take a look at the 400+ year old liberty tree before gone. Lynn Fisher Jamie 02/25 (yes i am a tree hugger) St. Louis *** USNA-NET post by: FISHER Jamie K. 02-25 FISHER Lynn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA10538 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:33:52 -0500 (CDT) Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal To: "USNA-Net" From: "Jo Anne Mitzen" Subject: usna-net: Videos & Grades Date: Wed, 20 Oct 99 08:36:47 PDT I don't know about other years but, in 1997, our Plebe video arrived many months after Plebe summer. Grade reports are issued after final grades &, if your Mid signed for you to receive a copy, you will most likely get it weeks (& there have been times when it was months) after he/she returned for the next semester. Just one of those things. . . Go Navy! Jo Anne Nesquehoning, PA *** USNA-NET post by: MITZEN Joseph B 01-16 MITZEN Jo Anne and Michael ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA13482 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:34:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gene & Ruth" To: Subject: usna-net: Homecoming tickets Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:35:33 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 We have 3 tickets to the Homecoming game. They are upper blue sec.102 / row 2 / seats 21,22,23. Please let me know if anyone needs them, at swimva@erols.com Ruth Lastfogel *** USNA-NET post by: LASTFOGEL Jennifer L 03-24 LASTFOGEL Ruth and Gene ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA13589 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:40:03 -0500 (CDT) From: RAmes50695@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:40:26 EDT Subject: usna-net: Time with my daugher To: usna-net@navy-usna.org To all, I too have noticed how much of my day is spent at the CRT screen, specifically on this list. others have noticed as well. I was beginning to feel guilty, but in my desire to stay tuned and NOT feel guilty, I rationalized. I like my rationalization and thought I would share it with you so that if you are feeling twangs of guilt or are being lovingly harassed by family members about being addicted to the net......you have a response no one can argue with. I was a very active parent when my teenage daughter was still at home. And I spent many hours each day......being with her, doing things for her, and thinking about her. I have given up the CONTROL I once had but I don't feel guilty any more about spending time with her via this LISTSERV. You all have been my eyes (seeing and sharing about my daughter) , my arms (giving Mom hugs when you have seen her), my legs (delivering chocolate chip cookies and brownies for a 1/2 birthday......that are fresh instead of a week old.....we live in CA.) and my voice (the "your Mom loves you" that goes along with the hug). I have enjoyed a connection with my daughter that I never thought possible as a result of your stories, your sightings, your support, and your suggestions. I spent at least three hours each day with or for my daughter until I Day, and enjoy spending that time now learning about where she is, what she is doing, who she sill be spending the next four years of her life with, what her life is like now and what it may be like in the near future, and "meeting" the parents of others who are sharing similar experiences..........just as I did when she was living with us. Erin does not have the time to keep me informed so I "use" all of you to get a real feel for what she is living. Then when I do get to spend a precious few minutes or more on the phone with her, they are moments of quality where she can choose the subject matter........and where I can listen with my heart, knowing that I can find out from this list about things such as test dates, schedules, football scores, gift ideas, phone card info, details about auto and health insurance..........and so many other important, at one time or another,...........subjects. Thank yo for continuing to post, for continuing to find new things to write about, for being patient with new members, for helping me to stay connected to my daughter who is across the continent from me. I am very grateful. Judy Ames Erin Borozny 03/17 *** USNA-NET post by: BOROZNY Erin Elizabeth 03-17 AMES Dick and Judy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA13863 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:48:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert L. Loser" To: "USNA-NET" Subject: usna-net: The Nation's Last Liberty Tree to be Taken Down Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:51:14 -0400 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF1AE0.A5C96920" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF1AE0.A5C96920 charset="iso-8859-1" Here is a site that provides information on the Liberty Tree for anyone that is interested: http://www.sjca.edu/college/tree.phtml Bob Loser Eric 03/6 Heavyweight Crew ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF1AE0.A5C96920 name="The Nation's Last Liberty Tree to be Taken Down.url" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="The Nation's Last Liberty Tree to be Taken Down.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://www.sjca.edu/college/tree.phtml [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.sjca.edu/college/tree.phtml Modified=20B715E0011BBF01A8 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF1AE0.A5C96920-- *** USNA-NET post by: LOSER Eric S 03-6 LOSER Robert ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA14253 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:57:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Van Spiros" To: Cc: Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Re: Missing Patriotism? Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 10:57:40 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Karen, and all, This is a VERY powerful message for all of us to remember and remind ourselves and sometimes even our Mid during a valley period of their roller coaster ride. I just want to add a quote from Father D E O'Brien that my son used as a trailer for his email during his plebe year. "It is the soldier, not the poet, who gives us freedom of speech; It is the soldier, not the reporter, who gives us freedom of the press; It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to protest; It is the soldier who serves beneath the flag, who salutes the flag, and whose coffin is draped in the flag, who gives the demonstrator the right to burn the flag." Carolyn Spiros Boston, MA ---------- > From: KKStuart@aol.com > To: usna-plebe@navy-usna.org > Subject: usna-plebe: Re: Missing Patriotism? > Date: October 19, 1999 9:18 PM > > Someone wrote a day ago about what we should tell our son/daughter when asked > why we are proud of them. There were some good answers out there, but I have > a different take. > Okay, here's my reply to why I am proud of my mid (& my husband & all who > serve/d). Since I am an English teacher, I try very hard to use many > different authors in my lit. class. This year I am teaching 7th grade > English and get to use one of my favorite stories about "Home" the "UNITED > STATES OF AMERICA" . It is by Edward EVerett Hale called "The Man W/Out a > Country" I encourage all of you to go to your Library & read it. You see, > in this new age of diversity & multi-culturalism, sometimes our own national > heritage gets lost. As teachers, we have only so much time to incorporate > all the new diverse lit out there - Carribean Poets, Hindu and Taoist > proverbs, African/Chinese/Japanese/and Latin American literature. There's > nothing wrong with these surveys of lit, however, sometimes we can't see the > forest for the trees. How do our children/teenagers ever know how and why to > be proud of their own country, we seem to be pushing how great other > countries are, and are afraid to toot our own horn. Well, if they have me > for a teacher - look out. > This story is about a soldier who "Curses" the USA and wishes never to hear > the name again. In his court-martial, he gets what he wished for, and he is > forever known as a man without a country. The short of the -short > story,is--- he is sent to sea - transferred from ship to ship never allowed > to set foot on his country - no one on the ship around him can mention the > USA, he is also known as "plain buttons" because he can't even have the > eagles on his buttons to remind him of his country. Guess what his dying > wish was after 50+ years at straight sea? Yep, he wanted to hear news of his > country... He urges all to love their country and serve it well, for their is > no greater country than the USA. > Here, even as I write this, I get so emotional. Our sons and daughters > are now serving their country. They are giving of themselves, sacrificing > for their country. How can they do this at college, you ask? Well, are they > at a renowned party school? Joining a fraternity & going to all those > wonderful functions? Or just able to sit on the beautiful, lush grass at T > Court & read? No - they are learning how to become the best military > officers this country can produce and they have no spare time for frivolity. > So the next time someone asks you why you are proud of your > sons/daughters who are just "going to college" Let them know. Do you > remember what the Superintendent (or Commandant - can't remember which) said > at one of our many parent meetings in Alumni Hall? To sum it up, he said > everytime you look at our great FLAG remember that your son/daughter is one > thread woven together along with other military members that makes our FLAG > whole and the great symbol that it is. > I have an assignment for each of my students. They are to write what > they think "Home" means to them. Then I have them write how they would feel > if they were never allowed to visit, hear or speak of their HOME again. > WOW. that'll wake you up. > AND THAT'S WHY I AM PROUD OF MY SON, his biological FATHER who died serving > his country, my HUSBAND and son's FATHER, my FATHER, AUNT, UNCLE, and ALL WHO > have allowed me and my children to enjoy the freedomn in this wonderful > country. > Karen K. Stuart > Christopher 03/14>> > > > *** USNA-PLEBE post by: STUART Christopher 03-14 STUART Karen K. > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > *** USNA-NET post by: SPIROS Michael 01-30 SPIROS Van and Carolyn ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA14508 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:08:34 -0500 (CDT) From: SweetP309@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:09:18 EDT Subject: usna-net: Liberty Tree - picture of it To: usna-net@navy-usna.org The Annapolis newspaper, "Capital Online," has a picture of this great tree and good background story. Site is: http://www.hometownannapolis.com/cgi-bin/view/live/10/19-34/TOP Also, the following is part of an article in today's Bergen [NJ] Record (online edition) giving additional information on the fate of other Liberty Trees. "Liberty trees, where the Sons of Liberty met and plotted the American Revolution, existed in most if not all of the 13 Colonies and were a potent Revolutionary War symbol. Maryland's is the last surviving Liberty Tree. "At least two were destroyed by British forces, said Edward Papenfuse, Maryland state archivist. "'In Boston, they chopped the tree into 14 cords of wood and used it as firewood for the soldiers. In Charleston [South Carolina], they were so intent on eradicating the tree that they burned the stump,' Papenfuse said. Others were cut down or lost to disease or old age, he said." Paula Gleason Ringwood, NJ *** USNA-NET post by: GLEASON Timothy W 03 GLEASON Paula and Cris ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA15778 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:03:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Father O'Brien... Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:01:11 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Carolyn and all... For the entire text of the quote mentioned in Carolyn's post, see: http://www.neonap.org/veteran.html Mike and I put this page together for Veteran's Day in 1998 and put it on our Northeast Ohio USNA Parents' Club website. It is a powerful piece, you should take a look at it. Thank you for bringing it to our attention, Carolyn. Sandi *** USNA-NET post by: STOKER Michael 00-10 ZETS Sandi (Stoker) ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA16945 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:31:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Stearns, Michael D" To: usna-net@navy-usna.org, "'MarkMLakes@aol.com'" Subject: RE: usna-net: Submarine Tour Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:32:04 -0700 Mark -- Our Parent's Club had a tour last year of the Ohio at Bangor, Washington. An awesome boat. Just a few words to make your visit more comfortable. 1) Women must wear slacks. The only way in or out is a 30 foot vertical ladder through a hatch in the deck. 2) Wear comfortable, sturdy shoes. The rungs of the ladders and the flooring are clean and sometimes a bit slick. 3) Watch your head. Seemingly every cubic inch of the interior of the sub has a valve, a switch or a lever right where you want to put your ear. I was amazed how much "stuff" was crammed into so small a space. What I found most interesting was not the boat. The people who sail her, from the messmen to the Officer of the Deck were delightful, intelligent and serious young men. Enjoy talking to them. Michael D. Stearns "Change is required. There is a process of change, just as there is a process of manufacturing, or for growing wheat. How to change is the problem." -- Dr. W. Edwards Deming > ---------- > From: MarkMLakes@aol.com[SMTP:MarkMLakes@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 4:51 PM > To: usna-net@navy-usna.org > Subject: usna-net: Submarine Tour > > We're heading down for the football this weekend and our Mid said there would > be a 688 LA class attack submarine visiting we could possibly tour. Anyone > heard anything more about this, such as when it'll be available-before and/or > after the game etc. He said that mids get first priority and then they let > the public aboard. Any info and/or advise would be much appreciated. > > Mark Christensen > Medford Lakes, NJ > Dan 03/19 > > *** USNA-NET post by: CHRISTENSEN Daniel L 03-19 CHRISTENSEN Mark > > Tell another parent about USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe. > > Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org > > *** USNA-NET post by: STEARNS Mark Elliot 02-12 STEARNS Michael and Vicki ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22509 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:21:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Navymom02@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:22:10 EDT Subject: usna-net: Club Lacrosse To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Just heard there are 2 club Lax games this Sunday on the yard. Times sound approximate, but look like 9:30 and 1:00. Sorry no further details, I'm just delighted to have heard about the games before Monday, after the fact! So for any other Lax fans close by, come out and route for Navy!! Mary Cannici, NJ Rich,02,22nd *** USNA-NET post by: CANNICI Richard J. 02-22 CANNICI Richard and Mary ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA29566 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:59:16 -0500 (CDT) From: JWHEnterp@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:59:54 EDT Subject: usna-net: Navy SPIE Rescue To: usna-net@navy-usna.org In the dentist's office this AM, I was handed a copy of PEOPLE magazine from October 4th. A short but fascinating article told about a small boat which was cut loose from its ship during a hurricane, and showed the Navy helicopter crew which rescued the survivors from the boat which was being pounded and swamped during the storm. NOW we know what SPIE rigging practice is all about!! Joyce Hoffer, Sponsor Mom, Annapolis *** USNA-NET post by: HOFFER Joyce and Barry ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA00180 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:19:35 -0500 (CDT) From: RFDSAD@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:19:48 EDT Subject: usna-net: Army Navy tkts To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Well, in the spirit of JP Jones, I didn't give up and I finally have my tickets for the game. They are not fantastic seats, but they are seats. Here is the name of the Philly agency who still has tickets at $110 per tkt. ABC Ticket Co. Philadelphia, PA 19103 215-567-3800 Attn. Danny BEAT ARMY! Sharon *** USNA-NET post by: D'ANNA Brendan P 98 D'ANNA Sharon and Ron ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA00662 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:38:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Amysoule@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:38:06 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Lucky Bag Photos To: richbev@bellsouth.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org I have something from the yearbook staff that says you can dontact DaVor photography at 1-800-724-1916. Hope this helps. Amy Soule *** USNA-NET post by: SOULE Brandon E 01 SOULE Amy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA03392 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:38:06 -0500 (CDT) From: LiliaMayer@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:37:39 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Oral/Dental Surgery To: LIEBERTCO@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org What a hoot! Wish I had teeth that healed while I slept too! Lilia Mayer Richmond VA *** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA03910 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:00:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:56:27 -0600 Subject: Re: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Re: Missing Patriotism? From: "LeRoy Gravseth" To: BismarkS@worldnet.att.net, KKStuart@aol.com CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Amen to that. This is truely what it is all about and nothing more needs adding. LeRoy Gravseth Thank-You so much Carolyn ---------- >From: "Van Spiros" >To: >Cc: >Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Re: Missing Patriotism? >Date: Sun, Sep 19, 1999, 8:57 AM > > Karen, and all, > This is a VERY powerful message for all of us to remember and remind > ourselves and sometimes even our Mid during a valley period of their roller > coaster ride. > > I just want to add a quote from Father D E O'Brien that my son used as a > trailer for his email during his plebe year. > > "It is the soldier, not the poet, who gives us freedom of speech; > It is the soldier, not the reporter, who gives us freedom of the press; > It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to > protest; > It is the soldier who serves beneath the flag, who salutes the flag, and > whose coffin is draped in the flag, who gives the demonstrator the right to > burn the flag." > > Carolyn Spiros > Boston, MA *** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA04120 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:11:08 -0500 (CDT) From: RFDSAD@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:11:53 EDT Subject: usna-net: Womens' Rugby vs. AF To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Don't know if there are any Rugby parents out there, but I was at the Navy-AF Women's' Rugby game the day of the ill-fated football game. Happy to say Navy won the Rugby game 20-17. I took copious photos for one of my mids and will happily scan some to anyone whose daughter might be in them. Hopefully, you know her jersey number. Some are quite good if I do say so myself. Sharon *** USNA-NET post by: D'ANNA Brendan P 98 D'ANNA Sharon and Ron ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA04163 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:11:58 -0500 (CDT) From: PWestover@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:12:36 EDT Subject: usna-net: First Class Portraits To: usna-net@navy-usna.org Hi! I hope that I don't get in trouble for this posting - it is not an advertisement and I have no relationship to the photographer, other than we had our daughter's graduation portrait taken by ths man. After three years of bad to "so-so" photographs we decided to contact an Annapolis photographer for a really good portrait. Stan Stearns was very helpful, made all the arrangements with our Mid by E-Mail and took several poses in every uniform we requested. He even went to the trouble of taking one in front of the chapel at my request (while scaffolding was still in place for the restoration in Spring '98.) We were delighted with the results. We did all this at the last minute - April !!! He managed to have wallet-sized ready for the announcements and our portraits were mailed to us shortly after graduation. There are a lot of photographers in the Annapolis area who are excellent and will cater to your desires as to uniform, location, backround, etc. If you would like to check him out, I have sent his web page address. Just "click" on the photograph of the midshipman for info on the USNA portraits. Our daughter is the photo in front of the chapel. My advice to all second and first class parents is to take the time and get the pictures you want. So many of my daughter's classmates had disappointed parents because they had neglected to do this, and by January of First class year, it is really too hectic if you haven't made plans. Hope this is helpful to anyone looking for a wonderful memory of your Mids four years in Annapolis! http://www.ssphotography.com/index.htm Pam Westover Katy ('98, 02) *** USNA-NET post by: WESTOVER Catherine Maaghan 98-2 WESTOVER Pamela and Robert ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA04248 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:13:15 -0500 (CDT) From: LiliaMayer@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:13:37 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Sponsor Mom: REPLY To: joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us, JWHEnterp@aol.com CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Dear Jo Oliver, What a lovely list! My favorite is writing about the day they were born and how we felt. I'm printing up this note -- as I do many others -- and putting it in a binder. You are all helping to draft a rich diary for this year in the lives of our Mids. Thank you! Lilia Mayer Richmond, VA Justin 03/07 *** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA04753 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:38:08 -0500 (CDT) From: LiliaMayer@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:38:52 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Ice bags for wisdom teeth To: Nancy765@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org OK folks, no one in my family has had wisdom tooth problems, but, if they ever do, I know where to look up the best advice on the subject! Glad to have those archives! Lilia Mayer Richmond VA Justin 03/07 *** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA04925 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:42:46 -0500 (CDT) From: LiliaMayer@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:42:11 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Submarine Tour To: MarkMLakes@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org The Alumni Association has a listing that sends email on special events at the Academy, including visits by ships and subs. I read one recently and it mentioned having to get tickets ahead of time. I'd call them. Lilia Mayer Richmond VA Justin 03/07 *** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA05396 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:10:46 -0500 (CDT) From: LiliaMayer@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:08:33 EDT Subject: Re: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Re: Missing Patriotism? To: BismarkS@worldnet.att.net, KKStuart@aol.com CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org Thank you! I copied the poem and shared it with my plebe. Lilia Mayer Richmond VA Justin, 03/07 *** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA05442 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:11:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:14:29 -0400 From: Some Cully To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" Subject: usna-net: net overload Dear Debbie Clark and members, I Agree with you ! I'm being overwhelmed as you are in keeping up with the mail on the net - one could easily spend entire nights reading it all, to the exclusion of other important matters. You are not alone. Go Navy, Kathy C. *** USNA-NET post by: CULLY Harold 99 CULLY Kathleen ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. by westpoint.west-po