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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA19782
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 05:51:01 -0600 (CST)
From: Sdalziel@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 06:51:11 EST
Subject: usna-net: organ concert
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Good Morning All !

Did anyone tape/video tape Friday night's organ concert?  I hear one of our 
Tennessee gals did an outstanding vocal solo...would love to have a copy of 
her performance to surprise mom & dad.

Please email me privately...will be happy to cover cost of tape and postage, 
etc...

Have a Great Navy Day!

Sue Dalziel
Scott 01/26
Nashville

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA11745
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:21:51 -0600 (CST)
From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Honor Roll for Character Development...
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:22:23 -0500
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To all...

I was sent this information recently that I thought I might share with you.

In 1989, the John Templeton Foundation established the Honor Roll for
Character-Building Colleges to recognize biennially those institutions that
emphasize character development as an integral aspect of the undergraduate
experience.
http://www.collegeandcharacter.org/

It comes as no surprise to me that all four of the Service Academies are
included in this honor role.  The Naval Academy has been included in the
following areas:

First Year Programs:
Exemplary first-year programs offer students the tools to develop a moral
compass by which to navigate between their increased personal freedom and
their new responsibilities.

Academic Honesty Programs:
Academic honesty (or integrity) is the fundamental understanding that a
person of character does not lie, steal, or cheat, especially in
relationship to academic work.

Student Leadership Programs:
Almost all colleges and universities aspire to prepare students for
positions of leadership both inside and outside the campus community. A
growing number of college programs are dedicated to providing high-quality
educational experiences for students to develop the competencies,
conscience, and compassion required of leaders in a civil society.

Sandi
Westlake, OH
Michael '00, 10th



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA08340
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:49:22 -0600 (CST)
From: Navymom02@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:50:08 EST
Subject: usna-net: 11/13 B&B Availability
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

We have reservations at Gibson's B&B, just outside Gate One, for Saturday, 
Nov. 13.  One of the larger rooms, it has one double plus a pull out love 
seat, with a private bath.  We had planned on attending the Tulane game, but 
Juliet (our Plebe hopeful for class of 04) has an interview with a Senator 
that day, and needless to say, that takes priority.  If anyone is interested, 
please email me directly.  
Mary Cannici, NJ
Rich,02,22nd

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA03379
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:42:44 -0600 (CST)
X-Sender: cpl@aretha.jax.org
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:55:29 -0400
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: "Charles P. Lerner" <cpl@jax.org>
Subject: usna-net: Glee Club Appearances

	Does anyone know if the Glee Club will be appearing in the New
England area this winter or spring.  Thanks for the info.

Charlie Lerner
Mt. Desert, ME
Allen  03-7, Sailing



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA08204
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:31:38 -0600 (CST)
X-Sender: jlenhart@kiwi.dep.anl.gov (Unverified)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 15:42:06 -0600
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: jlenhart <jlenhart@kiwi.dep.anl.gov>
Subject: usna-net: Smithsonian article
X-Info: ENC Mail Server run by Argonne National Laboratory

Hello to all,
Just wanted to mention that there's a great article in this month's
Smithsonian magazine (Noavember issue) on the 100th Army/Navy.  (hope this
wasn't breaking any rules, since this is sort of a "sport" thing, but it's
an article & I figured that took priority :-)
Enjoy!
Julie Lenhart
Chris '01/8


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA11732
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:25:52 -0600 (CST)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 16:29:07 -0700
From: Greg Hopeman <hopeman@attglobal.net>
Organization: Merrill Lynch
X-Accept-Language: en
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Need Navy-Army Tickets

Coming from Idaho and need 2 tickets. We just moved from Boston and
didn't think we would make it back for the game. We saw plebe, youngster
and second class year. We would sure like to see the FIRSTIE year.
Thanks for your help.

Greg Hopeman,       Amber 00/5
800-937-0619 or
hopeman@attglobal.net


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA14025
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:22:56 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Moderator Housekeeping
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:23:35 -0500
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To all members...

I am doing a little tidying up and wanted to share a few random but
important things.  Since traffic is slow I though I'd take the time to write
today.

USNA-Sports -
If you haven't signed up yet, why not?  Please just send an email to ME at
mzets@mail.com with the words "subscribe - USNA-Sports" in the body of the
message.  Nothing else is necessary.


No Messages -
The lists have been slow for the past few days.  Nothing is wrong with the
system.  People just have run out of things to talk about.  This too shall
pass.


Quoting Original Messages -
Please, please DO NOT leave your email program set to "Quote the Original
Message in your Reply."  This causes a whole lot of extra text to be
transmitted with your reply. In my original message about signing up for
USNA-Sports, I asked that you just hit the reply button with the words
"subscribe - USNA-Sports" in the text.  Of the over 150 responses to this
request, I received more than half of them with the entire announcement
message attached to those three simple words.

In messages to our Lists, this is especially bad since I really clogs up our
archives and slows the Listserver WAY DOWN when it has to send all that
extra text to all 700+ members of USNA-Net.  Set your email program to NOT
quote the original message and we'll be a lot faster in getting and storing
email.  If you don't know how, ask me.  Send me a note with the name of your
email program and I'll get you detailed instructions on how to set this
feature properly.


Change of Email Address -
If your email address changes, let Sandi or me know in a private message.
Include your Name, Old Address and New Address.  Don't send this notice to
our Lists!  We make the changes the same day as we receive the notification.
DO NOT resubmit an application for membership under the New Address.  It
really confuses things because we think this is a new application and go
through a lot of extra stuff that isn't needed for a simple change of
address.  Since you're already a member, we don't need to process a new
subscription request, etc.


Attachments and Viruses -
Just a reminder that computer viruses are transmitted via attachments to
email.  If you receive an attachment to an email, DON'T OPEN IT!  Even if
it's from someone you know.  In the past few weeks I, personally, received
TWO messages with the HAPPY99.EXE virus attached.  Thankfully, they were not
sent to the Net. HAPPY99.EXE is a cute little program that, when opened,
shoots up New Years Eve Fireworks and the proceeds to attach itself to every
email you send to anyone.  And all without your knowledge.  For more info on
Happy99 see our website's FAQ page under "Viruses."  You'll even find
detailed instruction on how to fix your system if your infected.

That's about it for now.  Questions?  Write me and I'll help.


Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator


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From: "Kathleen Meinert" <onvacation@cnmnetwork.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Questions for Our Moderator
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 20:04:51 -0800
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Mike,
=20
Is EVERTHING forbidden when it comes to sports?  Can we not discuss Navy =
spirit at games or compliment our Brigade of Midshipmen at these events? =
 Can we not discuss tailgaters or other happenings that other parents =
might be interested in at sporting events?  Must we be worried as Julie =
Lenhart was to mention an article that pertains to sports?
=20
Must we be so restricted? I for one don't particularly care about every =
detail pertaining to every sport but I think there might be a few =
subjects connected to sports that deserve a place on usna-net. =20
=20
Kathy Meinert
Kevin '00
So Ca

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA07154
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:56:22 -0600 (CST)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:57:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Oliver <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
X-Sender: joliver@bookworm
To: Kathleen Meinert <onvacation@cnmnetwork.com>
cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Questions for Our Mo    REPLY
In-Reply-To: <005201bf25b0$95ffbbe0$f21d4fd1@compaq>


	Also, we are expected to memorize the rules....there are those of
us who are a little older and forget what we wanted when we go from the
bedroom to the kitchen.  I can abide and will abide by the rules I can
remember.

				peace and hugs....Jo Oliver
						  John '97
						  Leesburg  FL

 On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Kathleen Meinert wrote:

> Mike,
>  
> Is EVERTHING forbidden when it comes to sports?  Can we not discuss Navy spirit at games or compliment our Brigade of Midshipmen at these events?  Can we not discuss tailgaters or other happenings that other parents might be interested in at sporting events?  Must we be worried as Julie Lenhart was to mention an article that pertains to sports?
>  
> Must we be so restricted? I for one don't particularly care about every detail pertaining to every sport but I think there might be a few subjects connected to sports that deserve a place on usna-net.  
>  
> Kathy Meinert
> Kevin '00
> So Ca
> 


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA10742
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:41:42 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Questions for Our Moderator
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:42:19 -0500
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To Kathleen Meinert and all,

A Response from your Moderator...

RE:   <<<  Is EVERYTHING forbidden [on the other lists] when it comes to
sports?  >>>

First, the simple answer is YES.  Everything related to sports is to be put
on USNA-Sports except for

1.    Ticket exchanges (Need tickets or have excess tickets) and
2.    Requests for directions/accommodations related to an event (and the
appropriate responses).

The reason for these exceptions is that I felt removing these two items from
the main list would hurt more than help the individual with the question if
the member was forced to ask the smaller group.

Now for the longer explanation...

A couple of others have expressed the same sentiment about the creation of
the new USNA-Sports Listserver.  So here is the way it went down.

I had received many, many complaints from members that the sports related
postings to USNA-Net and USNA-Plebe were diluting the Mission of the lists.
While I agreed to a certain extent with this view, the sports stuff was, and
still is, an important part of Navy Parenting, at least to a large number of
our members.  So I could not just arbitrarily banish these topics from
discussion by parents.  Instead, I went to the WP.ORG administrators and
requested a NEW list be created on their servers for our members to use for
sports related discussions.  They very graciously agreed that a new list
would be appropriate.   (Remember, all of this happens because a West Point
Grad has provided these services for free to us on his computers in Austin,
TX.)

I thought (how silly of me to assume) that we would just split the
discussions along a Sports / non-Sports line.  This way those members that
could care less about the score in an obscure game on Tuesday night wouldn't
be bothered and those of you that live and die for a single point could
expound to even greater lengths about your favorite non-varsity activity.
What could be more simple, I thought.  Sports enthusiasts on one list having
a great time talking about everything sports and, in the other corner of the
world, the non-sports types being pleased as punch to not have to hear all
that stuff about tailgating and light weight crew and LaCrosse and on and
on.

Ah, but the world isn't that perfect.  It isn't that black and white.  We
have "cross dressers" out there that want Tailgating but not LaCrosse
scores.  We have members that want to talk about how great it was to be at
the game but don't want to hear about the game itself.  We have people that
don't know if the D&B's performance at a "football" game is sports related
or not.  We have every flavor of "half-way" that you can imagine.

My response to those that want it all is that you can't have your cake and
eat it too.  I stick by my original ruling that if it deals with a Sport it
belongs on USNA-Sports.  If you want to talk about Tailgating, join
USNA-Sports and put up with the LaCrosse scores.  (Please, I don't mean to
offend the LaCrosse Parents out there.  I'm just using that as an example.)
Since less than a third of our members have signed up for USNA-Sports (210,
so far), I imagine that the other 500 or so of you think that USNA-Sports is
not your thing.

It would have been far easier to have added everyone all at once to
USNA-Sports and then tell those that didn't want it to unsubscribe but I
thought that that approach would have inconvenienced too many members.  I
guess that I was correct in that approach since I would have had to dealt
with 500 unsubscribes versus 200 subscriptions.

So in summary, think of this as the local daily paper.  If the topic is
Academic Achievements of a football player, it goes on the front page.  If
it deals with D&B at a game, it's about Music not sports and goes in the
first section.  If it deals with tailgating or flag football or box scores,
it goes in the sports section.  Many of you still read the sports section
because you're interested in hockey.  At certain times of the year you have
to wade through all the football or basketball news to get the results of
the game between the Leafs and Bruins.  You don't write to the editor of the
paper and complain.  You don't cancel your subscription to the paper.  You
just ignore the stuff that doesn't interest you.  Sometimes, you don't even
read the sports section but you still buy the paper.

If you want to hear about anything related to USNA Sports subscribe to
USNA-Sports.  If not, enjoy the peace and quiet of the other lists.  I think
that makes it pretty clear.

Thanks for listening.

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org










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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24156
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:10:08 -0600 (CST)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:08:38 -0500
From: Jack Riismandel <jriismandel@home.com>
Organization: @Home Network
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To: JACK B RIISMANDEL <jackbr@juno.com>,
        "USNA-NET navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>,
        "navy-plebe@navy-usna.org" <navy-plebe@navy-usna.org>
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From: "robert Blanck" <blanck@gwmail.usna.edu>
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team     league record     goals for/against   overall record     goals =
for/against
colgate        5-1-0           11/6                      8-7-2             =
          27/31
navy            5-1-0           17/2                      13-7-0           =
          49/23
army            3-2-1            9/8                        9-9-1          =
             32/24
holy cross    3-2-1            12/7                     12-5-1             =
         34/16
bucknell       3-3-0            7/8                       7-8-1            =
           21/23
lehigh           1-5-0            4/11                     7-9-1           =
            19/31
lafayette       0-6-0            5/13                     7-8-1            =
            28/21

league leaders;

overall scoring;  1.  Fisher,  T4.  Sheikh,  T8.  Murphy and  Solon,  T14. =
 LaSalle and Riismandel,  T17.  Nance

league scoring;  T1.  Murphy and Sheikh,  T3.  Fisher and Solon

league goals;  1.  Solon,  T2. Sheikh,  T6.  Murphy and Fisher

league assists;  1.  Murphy,   T2. Fisher,  T4.  Sheikh

game winning goals;  1.  Fisher,  T2.  Nance

Overall goalkeeping;  2.  Wilson

league goalkeeping;  1.  Wilson

Navy finishes the regular season ranked in the top 10 in the region.  Navy =
was ranked in the top 10 regionally every single day in '99. =20

Patriot league semi-final game vs. Army this Saturday in Hamilton, NY



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA11051
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:28:23 -0600 (CST)
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From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" <civies03@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: The Night Before Christmas ... YUT!
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 19:29:26 EST

To All,
I guess this poem says it all.  It was forwarded to us by our Mid and 
requires a BIG forward to the world.  This is a hard one to read because 
you'll be reading through watery eyes.
Go Navy!
Anne & Dennis Kolb
Matt 03  7th Co.
Long Island, NY

> >>      'TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS,
 > >>     HE LIVED ALL ALONE,
 > >>     IN A ONE BEDROOM HOUSE MADE OF
 > >>     PLASTER AND STONE.
 > >>
 > >>     I HAD COME DOWN THE CHIMNEY
 > >>     WITH PRESENTS TO GIVE,
 > >>     AND TO SEE JUST WHO
 > >>     IN THIS HOME DID LIVE.
 > >>
 > >>     I LOOKED ALL ABOUT,
 > >>     A STRANGE SIGHT I DID SEE,
 > >>     NO TINSEL, NO PRESENTS,
 > >>     NOT EVEN A TREE.
 > >>
 > >>     NO STOCKING BY MANTLE,
 > >>     JUST BOOTS FILLED WITH SAND,
 > >>     ON THE WALL HUNG PICTURES
 > >>     OF FAR DISTANT LANDS.
 > >>
 > >>     WITH MEDALS AND BADGES,
 > >>     AWARDS OF ALL KINDS,
 > >>     A SOBER THOUGHT
 > >>     CAME THROUGH MY MIND.
 > >>
 > >>     FOR THIS HOUSE WAS DIFFERENT,
 > >>     IT WAS DARK AND DREARY,
 > >>     I FOUND THE HOME OF A SOLDIER,
 > >>     ONCE I COULD SEE CLEARLY.
 > >>
 > >>     THE SOLDIER LAY SLEEPING,
 > >>     SILENT, ALONE,
 > >>     CURLED UP ON THE FLOOR
 > >>     IN THIS ONE BEDROOM HOME.
 > >>
 > >>     THE FACE WAS SO GENTLE,
 > >>     THE ROOM IN SUCH DISORDER,
 > >>     NOT HOW I PICTURED
 > >>     A UNITED STATES SOLDIER.
 > >>
 > >>     WAS THIS THE HERO
 > >>     OF WHOM I'D JUST READ?
 > >>     CURLED UP ON A PONCHO,
 > >>     THE FLOOR FOR A BED?
 > >>
 > >>     I REALIZED THE FAMILIES
 > >>     THAT I SAW THIS NIGHT,
 > >>     OWED THEIR LIVES TO THESE SOLDIERS
 > >>     WHO WERE WILLING TO FIGHT.
 > >>
 > >>     SOON ROUND THE WORLD,
 > >>     THE CHILDREN WOULD PLAY,
 > >>     AND GROWNUPS WOULD CELEBRATE
 > >>     A BRIGHT CHRISTMAS DAY.
 > >>
 > >>     THEY ALL ENJOYED FREEDOM
 > >>     EACH MONTH OF THE YEAR,
 > >>     BECAUSE OF THE SOLDIERS,
 > >>     LIKE THE ONE LYING HERE.
 > >>
 > >>     I COULDN'T HELP WONDER
 > >>     HOW MANY LAY ALONE,
 > >>     ON A COLD CHRISTMAS EVE
 > >>     IN A LAND FAR FROM HOME.
 > >>
 > >>     THE VERY THOUGHT
 > >>     BROUGHT A TEAR TO MY EYE,
 > >>     I DROPPED TO MY KNEES
 > >>     AND STARTED TO CRY.
 > >>
 > >>     THE SOLDIER AWAKENED
 > >>     AND I HEARD A ROUGH VOICE,
 > >>     "SANTA DON'T CRY,
 > >>     THIS LIFE IS MY CHOICE;
 > >>
 > >>     I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM,
 > >>     I DON'T ASK FOR MORE,
 > >>     MY LIFE IS MY GOD,
 > >>     MY COUNTRY, MY CORPS."
 > >>
 > >>     THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER
 > >>     AND DRIFTED TO SLEEP,
 > >>     I COULDN'T CONTROL IT,
 > >>     I CONTINUED TO WEEP.
 > >>
 > >>     I KEPT WATCH FOR HOURS,
 > >>     SO SILENT AND STILL
 > >>     AND WE BOTH SHIVERED
 > >>     FROM THE COLD NIGHT'S CHILL.
 > >>
 > >>     I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE
 > >>     ON THAT COLD, DARK, NIGHT,
 > >>     THIS GUARDIAN OF HONOR
 > >>     SO WILLING TO FIGHT.
 > >>
 > >>     THEN THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER,
 > >>     WITH A VOICE SOFT AND PURE,
 > >>     WHISPERED, "CARRY ON SANTA,
 > >>     IT'S CHRISTMAS DAY, ALL IS SECURE."
 > >>
 > >>     ONE LOOK AT MY WATCH,
 > >>     AND I KNEW HE WAS RIGHT.
 > >>     "MERRY CHRISTMAS MY FRIEND,
 > >>     AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT."
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> This poem was written by a Marine stationed in  Okinawa Japan. The
 > >> following is his request. I think it is reasonable.....PLEASE. Would
you
 > >do
 > >> me the kind favor of sending this to as many people as you can?
Christmas
 > >> will be coming soon and some credit is due to our U.S. service men and
 > >> women for our being able to celebrate these festivities.
 > >>
 > >> Let's try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. Make
people
 > >> stop and think of our heroes, living and dead, who sacrificed
themselves
 > >> for us. Please, do your small part to plant this small seed.
 > >>
 > >>
 > >
 >
 >

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA15766
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 19:36:40 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: TECH NOTES - Quoted Originals
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:37:20 -0500
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To all...

Since some of you are less comfortable with computers than others, I will be
sending these TECH NOTES to help.  DO NOT respond to these TECH NOTES on the
Listservers.  Address ALL responses or questions to me personally at
mzets@mail.com.  Computer whizzes delete this message  - Newbies read on...

=============================================
TECH NOTE - Quoted Originals

To disable the "Quote Original in Reply" feature...


Using Microsoft Outlook Express Email Program
    Click on Tools in the top menu
    Select Options
    Click on the "Send" Tab at the top of the dialog box.
    Make sure the "Include message in Reply" box is NOT checked.

[While you're in this dialog box, you should also make sure that "Mail
Sending Format" is set to "Plain Text" to avoid sending messages in Rich
Text Format (RTF or HTML)]

    Click on "Apply" and then "OK"
That's all there is to it.


Using Netscape Messenger Email Program
    Click on "Edit" in the top menu
    Select Preferences
    Under "Mail & Groups" select Messages
    Make sure the "Automatically quote original message when replying" box
is NOT checked.

[While you're in this dialog box, you should also make sure that "By
default, sent HTML messages" is not checked to avoid sending messages in
Rich Text Format (RTF or HTML)]

    Click on "OK"
That's all there is to it.


AOL Members -
    You don't have to do anything since AOL's email program cannot be set to
automatically quote the original message.  It lacks this feature - probably
on purpose by AOL to reduce the size of emails sent by its members.

Hope this helps and also eliminates the excuse that you don't know how to
fix the problem.  :>)


=============================================

Please note that I know "I" am violating the rule that "ALL messages must
relate to Navy Parenting" but I feel there is good reason.  As Moderator,
I'm allowed to be the exception that proves the rule.  If you do not need a
little computer advice from time to time, simply hit the delete key when you
see the Subject: TECH NOTE.

If you have a specific question that you need help with, write to me at
mzets@mail.com.  I will answer as many as possible directly and those that
seem to be of general interest, I will post in a TECH NOTE.

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA15133
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:51:56 -0600 (CST)
From: "nielsen" <nielsen@catalinas.net>
To: "usna net listserver" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Fw: FW: Veterans' Day
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 19:48:07 -0800
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Just had to share my son's e-mail today.  It's just a tear jerker day.
    Go Navy,
       Carol Nielsen
          David 03/14 off shore sailing
-----Original Message-----
From: Midn David Nielsen <035016@nadn.navy.mil>
To: nielsen <nielsen@catalinas.net>
Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 10:35 AM
Subject: Fw: FW: Veterans' Day


>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > WHAT IS A VET?
>> > > > Anon.
>> > > >
>> > > >  Some veterans bear visible signs of their service: a missing limb,
>> > > > a Jagged scar, a certain look in the eye.
>> > > > Others may carry the evidence inside them: a pin holding a bone
>> > > together,
>> > > > a piece of shrapnel in the leg - or perhaps another sort of inner
>> >steel:
>> > > >
>> > > >  The soul's ally forged in the refinery of adversity.
>> > > > Except in parades, however, the men and women who
>> > > > have kept America safe   Wear no badge or emblem.
>> > > > You can't tell a vet just by looking.  What is a vet?
>> > > >
>> > > >  He is the cop on the beat who spent six months in Saudi Arabia
>> > > > sweating two gallons a day making sure the armored personnel
>> > > > carriers didn't run out of fuel.
>> > > >
>> > > >  He is the barroom loudmouth, dumber than five wooden planks,
>> > > > whose overgrown frat-boy behavior is outweighed a hundred
>> > > > times in the cosmic scales by four hours of exquisite bravery
>> > > > near the 38th parallel.
>> > > >
>> > > >  She or he is the nurse who fought against futility and went to
>> > > > sleep sobbing every night for two solid years in Da Nang.
>> > > >
>> > > >  He is the POW who went away one person and came back
>> > > > another - or didn't come back AT ALL.
>> > > >
>> > > >  He is the Quantico drill instructor who has never
>> > > > seen combat - but has saved countless lives by turning slouchy,
>> > > > no-account rednecks and gang members into Marines, and teaching
>> > > > them to watch each other's backs.
>> > > >
>> > > > He is the parade - riding Legionnaire who pins on
>> > > > his ribbons and medals with a prosthetic hand.
>> > > >
>> > > > He is the career quartermaster who watches the
>> > > > ribbons and medals pass him by.
>> > > >
>> > > >  He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of The Unknowns,
whose
>> > > > presence at the Arlington National Cemetery must forever preserve
>> > > > the memory of all the anonymous heroes whose valor dies
unrecognized
>> > > > with them on the battlefield or in the ocean's sunless deep.
>> > > >
>> > > >  He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket - palsied
>now
>> > > > and aggravatingly slow - who helped liberate a Nazi death camp and
>who
>> > > >  wishes all day long that his wife were still alive to hold him
when
>> >the
>> > > > nightmares come.
>> > > >
>> > > >  He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being - a person
>who
>> > > > offered some of his life's most vital years in the service of his
>> > > > country, and who sacrificed his ambitions so others would not have
>to
>> > > > sacrifice theirs.
>> > > >
>> > > >  He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the darkness, and
>he
>> > > > is nothing more than the finest, greatest testimony on behalf of
the
>> > > >  finest, greatest nation ever known.
>> > > >
>> > > >  So remember, each time you see someone who has served our country,
>> > > > just lean over and say Thank You. That's all most people need, and
>in
>> > > > most cases it will mean more than any medals they could have been
>> > > awarded
>> > > > or were awarded.
>> > > >
>> > > >  Remember November 11th is Veterans Day
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> >
>>
>> ______________________________________________________
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA01854
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:52:40 -0600 (CST)
From: "George Neverosky" <NEVSKY1010@email.msn.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Appreciation
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Mike and Sandi, You guys really have it tough! But just know that every =
message that comes across my screen from your usa-net everything is =
greatly appreciated by me.
Try to ignore the complaints and realize how much most of us appreciate =
you. I'm loving everything connected with the USNA and you both have =
helped me learn.=20
I think you're both great!!!!!!!!!!
A devoted fan, Kathy Neverosky

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA20636
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 05:09:38 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Communicating Bad News
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:10:10 -0500
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Relayed due to technical problems.  Please reply directly.


Net friends:  Thank you all for your tremendous support and responses.  We
have contacted the Chaplain who is now expecting our letter, and he will
advise our son that there is nothing wrong with his family, but there is a
difficult matter in the letter he is handing him to read.  The letter is
from
us, with a pre-addressed envelope, postage, and card to the family of the
young man who is deceased.  We also included the obituary article and the
funeral service program which had several nice pictures of the young man.
Since they were not extremely close friends, we did not need to get this
information to our son right away as he would not even have considered
coming
home to Reno for the services.  Again, thank you all for your support,
prayers, and advice.  Roger and Leslie Kadz

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA23098
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 05:21:37 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net:  Veterans' Day
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To all...

Sandi and I put this piece by Father Denis Edward O'Brien, USMC, up on our
Club's website for Veteran's Day last year.  It's still there if you would
like to read it in it's entirety at

www.neonap.org/veteran.html

Take your tissues.

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH





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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA13596
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:15:37 -0600 (CST)
From: JMarti2902@aol.com
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:16:38 EST
Subject: usna-net: Thanks for Mialing Info(Big packages)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org


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From: JMarti2902@aol.com
Full-name: JMarti2902
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:14:04 EST
Subject: Thanks
To: usna-net@usna-org

To the MOM who sent mailing advice for large packages thank you . I apologize 
for not remembering your name.  but you know who you are!  Here's my story.
    Previously I had asked for advice on mailing our daughters' hockey 
equipment for the women's team that's in the early formation stages.   The  
mailin service route I used was UPS for price and addressed them to the 
Bancroft Express Office. (BTW your mids can reach this office).  
     I found I could mail  equipment bag & sticks for less than I thought.   
But what I didn't know was that I couldn't mail the sticks unboxed. I had 
boxed the bag.  Luckily UPS had boxes.
    So for all you families who are  mailing hockey equipment for their 
daughters, I encourage you to box everything for easier handling.   I found 
the grocery store to be helpful and sporting goods for a stick carton,  
that's how they are shipped to them.    Well thanks again to all the helpful 
Navy Family members out there.

                                Mary Martin
                                Elizabeth '03-8
                                Women's Rugby
                                Women's Hockey

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA03483
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:44:03 -0600 (CST)
From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Flying Club Article...
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:42:19 -0500
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Due to a technical problem, Mike has asked us to send this along to the
List.  Please respond directly to him...     wa4tkr@worldnet.att.net

---------------------------------------------------------

A friend from Hickory, NC sent me a scanned copy of an article from their
paper that covers the Flying Club competition there last weekend.  If anyone
would like a copy, email me privately and I will forward it to you.  There
is one picture that has several members of the USNA team in it.

Mike Henry
Lenoir City, TN
Ed   03/29

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA13574
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 21:09:17 -0600 (CST)
From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: NEW LASER EYE SURGERY POLICY ANNOUNCED     
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To all...thought this might interest some of you...(I have not copied the
entire article)

TRIDENT, 10/29/99

NEW LASER EYE SURGERY POLICY ANNOUNCED
by Lt. Jensin W. Sommer, Bureau of Medicine and Surgery

    "The Navy's Bureau of Medicine and Surgery has released new corneal
refractive surgery standards and waiver policies for the
undersea/diving/special warfare, surface and air warfare communities.

    The Sept 29 administrative message is the first comprehensive policy
concerning corneal refractive surgery to correct visual acuity worse than
20/20.  Refractive surgery is designed to reduce or eliminate the need for
glasses or contact lenses....

    Under the new policy, all forms of refractive surgery are still
considered disqualifying for new accessions into the Navy or Marine Corps.
But this can be waived if specific criteria are met.

    For applicants wanting warfare communities, PRK (photorefractive
keratectomy) is the only form of refractive surgery that will be considered
for a waiver at this time.

    The new policy strongly impacts aviation communities.  Navy and Marine
aviators will now join submariners and surface warfare officers in being
able to obtain a waiver for PRK surgery, although it will be on a limited
basis initially.  Aviators who meet the eligibility criteria for PRK surgery
may elect to have the procedure if they are accepted into a Navy-sponsored
clinical study, and are granted prior permission from their commanding
officers...

    More information about the physical standards and waiver policies can be
found at:   http://navymedicine.med.navy.mil/     Under "Links," click on
"Corrective Eye Surgery Information."

    EDITOR'S NOTE:  Regarding the brigade, "anyone interested in aviation
can only have the surgery if they are part of the study," said Lt. Comdr..
Amir Wolfe, of the clinic here.  "Midshipmen considering this surgery must
get approval from the senior medical officer, Capt. Robert Schultz.  The
Brigade will be informed if and when the study is officially opened.  Right
now, the particulars are being worked out."



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA20264
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:57:59 -0600 (CST)
From: "The Kerchevals" <kercheval_hou@msn.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: HELP - Need Medical Advice
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:00:32 -0600
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Had a call this afternoon from our daughter. She has a ganglion cyst on her
left hand/wrist that started in Plebe Summer and is getting worse, but today
was the first I've heard about it:-( Navy doctors are recommending surgery.
We have a wonderful hand surgeon here on our medical plan that we have
experience with (chief of hand surgery at Baylor Med School). She does not
want to wait till Christmas (PRTs right after break are more important to
her.) Our family rule - OK - MY rule is no one goes to the hospital alone.
If you have to have an IV, you need to have someone there who can be your
advocate. Besides, they don't make you sign those releases just for fun. I
would much rather be there 10 time when I wasn't needed than miss the 1 time
when I should have been there. So has anyone out there lived through this
before as a parent? Just how involved will the Navy let me be? Are there
options we should know about or can ask for? How many questions can I ask
about doctor's qualifications, experience and success rates without causing
trouble for my daughter? I know she is 18 (just barely!) and in the Navy,
but I have been her mother a very long time and have been there before when
minor things turn major in the blink of an eye. I WILL be in Annapolis
whether they let me be with her or not! (As you can tell, she comes by that
strong will that got her through Plebe Summer naturally :-) Right now I need
some "been there, done that, and this is how I did it."
Thanks in advance for all you help and prayers,
Paula Kercheval
Houston, TX
Jason 02/18
Christy 03/14



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA23975
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:57:09 -0600 (CST)
From: "David and Karin Denton" <karindpd@computron.net>
To: "USNA Net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Re: Help- Medical Advice 
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:32:52 -0600
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Dear Paula and all,

Our son had an emergency appendectomy Sept. 27, at Anne Arundel, the local
hospital in Annapolis.  He was transferred to Bethesda Naval Hospital 4 days
after the initial surgery to continue the recovery process because the
appendix was perforated.

My husband, David, went to Annapolis the day after the surgery to be with
Chris and stayed 2 weeks.  He was very impressed with the doctors and staff
at BNH!  He said except for one nurse, every nurse, orderly and doctor were
well studied on Chris' case before he got there.  A team of 3 or so doctors
made decisions about the treatment, they worked around the clock, constantly
evaluating progress instead of once or twice a day.

David responded to another net member's questions about BNH.  His comments
as follows.

"The staff at the surgery floor were very cooperative with me.
The"official" visiting hours were something like 6pm to 8:30.  I stayed many
times from 8am to midnight.  I could not stay in the room with Chris all
night because he had a double room and a roommate.  Rumor was that if there
had not been a roommate I "may" have been allowed to stay all night.  All
rooms on the surgery wing were doubles.  There were two chairs for visitors
to sit in the patients' room.  There are also two lounge rooms with couches,
lazy-boy chairs, tables, TV, puzzles, books, etc.  There are snack machines
everywhere, Subway shop, small Coffee bar, and a large lunch
cafeteria on the first floor inside the hospital.  There is a large
McDonald's (late hours ~ 11pm) and gasoline station inside the hospital
complex.  They are a small walk outside the front door.

"They were very easy on the rules for parents.  Doctors explained, talked,
joked, taught, etc., quite a bit.  Late hours and most of the weekend all
doors but the front door are locked, but I never had any problems going in
or out with the security officers there.

"Chris was there three weeks.  I only stayed two.  His Sponsor took him in
her car back to her house for a Saturday afternoon leave and then back to
Bancroft that evening to report back.  So basically he went directly back to
Bancroft.  The trips to Ann Arundle and to the National Naval Hospital were
in the academy ambulance."

Hope this helps.
David Denton

Paula, I also had a ganglion cyst on my left hand near the wrist below the
"V" between the thumb and first finger at the age of 20 when in Dental
Hygiene School at Baylor.  I did nothing but pray for it.  It shrank away
and I have never had any follow up done on it.  Maybe it was not a GC, but
the doctors said it was and that the only way to fix it was to surgically
remove it.  I'd been using my left hand in technical positions it was unused
to.  Perhaps your daughter's is caused by physical irritation as
well....right handed push-ups in order?  I will pray for her situation.
Best wishes for her recovery!
Karin Denton
Chris 03/12
Angleton, TX




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24180
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:03:52 -0600 (CST)
From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: "OTHELLO" AT NAVAL ACADEMY...
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:04:13 -0500
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For those of you lucky enough to be near the Yard this or next weekend...

The Masqueraders, the Naval Academy Midshipmen's theater group, will perform
Shakespeare's "Othello" at Mitscher Hall on Nov. 5, 6, 12 and 13 at 8 p.m.

This award-winning theater group has over 20 midshipmen in its cast this
year, and for the first time ever, its technical crew is considered its own
extracurricular activity with 20 participants.

The Masqueraders are the Naval Academy's oldest extracurricular activity on
the Yard, formed the same year as the Naval Academy in 1845.

 The general admission price is $6.  Tickets are currently on sale and are
available by calling 1-800-US4-NAVY.



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA27695
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 08:46:27 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joe Petrucelli" <joepetro@concentric.net>
To: <mzets@mail.com>
Cc: "USNA-Sports" <usna-sports@navy-usna.org>,
        "USNA-Net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Tulane Tickets Available
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 09:47:39 -0500
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Mike,

I am posting this message to USNA-NET and USNA-Sports. Could you also
forward to USNA-PLEBE for me.

I have two Tulane Game tickets (11/13) available that I will not be able to
use because my business travel plans have changed. With them, I also have
two tickets to the Captain's BBQ & Hospitality Tent (for 2 1/2 hours prior
to game time at the Stadium). We were there for Akron and the BBQ & Tent are
a good time.

The entire package cost $67.00, but would gladly make them available at no
cost to someone who will use them personally. If you are interested, please
respond to me directly at joepetro@concentric.net.

Joe Petrucelli


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA02278
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:34:31 -0600 (CST)
From: LCSPop@aol.com
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 18:35:33 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: HELP - Need Medical Advice
To: kercheval_hou@msn.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

While I have not experienced what you are about to experience, I can tell you 
that I have a great amount of faith in military medicine.  Most of the 
doctors that I have been to and currently go to have one thing in common.  
They were all military physicians at some point in their careers.  I'm not 
suggesting that you not worry about your daughter, as any surgery is risky 
business.  I am saying that you should have confidence in the Naval Medical 
staff, many of them are the best in their fields of practice.  It may be 
hard, but you have to remember, our sons and daughters are a part of 
something bigger, now.  We need to cut the "apron strings" and let them make 
their own way in the world, and that includes trusting the naval medical 
staff to treat them competently and efficiently.

Bob (my cousin is a Baylor Doctor) Yoon
David C. 03/30

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA03067
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 18:58:30 -0600 (CST)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:59:33 EST
Subject: usna-net: DVD 
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I want to buy my mid a DVD player for his computer at the Academy. I just got 
back from the local computer store and I am very confused as to which one to 
buy. Any suggestions? Please e-mail me.
Thanks,
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
LTWT CREW
TX

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA13922
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 22:01:24 -0600 (CST)
From: Bruzar@aol.com
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 23:02:22 EST
Subject: usna-net: Uniform of the Day on Holidays
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

My plebe will be coming home to California for Christmas.  His friends want 
him to wear  his uniform on some occasions.  How does he find out what the 
uniform of the day is when he is home?  I presume it is different for 
different locations around the country.

Mark Peterson
Bryan 17/03


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA14334
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 22:38:46 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Midshipman Privacy
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 23:35:59 -0500
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A very important message from your Moderator...

I have been so angry for the past few days that I did not send this message
until I had a chance to compose my thoughts.  After two days, I am still
angry at the stupidity and carelessness of a few of our members.

For the second time in as many months and the third time since I became
Moderator, a serious breach of a Midshipman's Privacy has occurred as a
direct result of one or more of our members forwarding an email that they
received via our Net to his/her Midshipman at the Yard.  Unlike the original
situations, this time, serious damage has occurred to the Midshipman
mentioned in the email that was forwarded (intact) in direct and deliberate
violation of our Rules of Operation.

I have been asked by the parents of this Mid to keep the details of the
incident private and have therefore removed all references to the Midshipman
from this message.  It is sufficient to say that an email that mentioned
their Midshipman by name was sent to another Midshipman at the Yard by a
member(s) of our Net.  The message mentioned something that had happened to
the Midshipman and when this news was forwarded to the Yard, the Midshipman
that was mentioned received serious grief from other Mids which added to the
Mid's already stressful situation.

I have this to say to any member who forwards a message that they receive
from our Net to a Mid at the Yard...

HOW DARE YOU ENDANGER ANOTHER MIDSHIPMAN'S WELL BEING ???

The forwarding of any message to the Yard is STRICTLY forbidden in our Rules
of Operation for this very reason.  This careless and deliberate act is
unconscionable.  The parent who sent the original message did so to share
experience, advice and council with other members.  For a recipient of this
message to then send it to the Yard without removing the name of the family
and the Mid is the height of laziness and shows total disregard for the
welfare of this fine, young Midshipman.  No member is above the rules.  They
apply to each and every one of you.

It's perfectly OK to mention something to your Mid in conversation or email
which you learned on our Net.  What isn't OK is to forward a message with
all its DETAILS so that your Mid knows who, what, when and where and can use
that information against another Midshipman or spread the news (perhaps even
casually) to others who will.  You can NEVER be sure what will be passed on
to another once the information has gone to the Yard.  This time it really
hurt.

THINK, PEOPLE !!!    This Net is for "your" benefit as a parent.  We are
here to support one another and then indirectly to help our sons or
daughters.  Every time you share something that you hear on our Net with an
"outsider," - be it a Mid or any non-member, you degrade our Mission and
hurt us all.

But most of all, even a casual or well intended slip can violate a Mid's
Privacy and bring harm to someone's son or daughter, maybe yours.  Just
think how you would feel if the harm had come to YOUR Mid.  I will not
discuss this matter (either publicly or privately) with anyone, so don't
write asking if it was "this" or "that."

If YOU have forwarded a posting to your Mid in the past few weeks, assume
that it was your careless and thoughtless action that caused the damage.
Resolve to NOT do it again.  And then keep your promise to the rest of our
members, that rely on all of us to act in the best interest of the group, by
reading and abiding by all of the rules.  They are ALL there for a reason.

They're on our website at www.navy-usna.org

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org





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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA13376
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 06:19:01 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Calendar Update
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 07:19:31 -0500
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To al,

I've added all of the available calendars provided by USNA for the Academic
Years through 2002 as links available on our Website.

They are listed on our Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) page and ALSO on
the Site Index (under Calendars and cross-referenced under USNA -
Calendars)..

If you need to know when something will happen for the next three years at
the Yard, just look it up via these links.

Remember to check our website frequently for updates and added additional
information.

Also, if you have a "Personal" Home Page that you would like to share with
the rest of us, let me know and I'll put up a link to it with the others
listed under Members' Home Pages on our main menu.

Sandi's redone a lot of the graphics on the site over the past few weeks and
I like to take a moment to say thanks for her help and talent.  She didn't
know how to send email when Michael went in for I-Day.  Today she writes her
own Web Code, Webmasters for six websites and is a master at computer
graphics.  Her latest work is the new "Welcome to USNA-Net" graphic on our
main page.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA13526
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 06:29:53 -0600 (CST)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 06:25:20 -0600
Subject: usna-net: High Flight
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From: P S Schroeder <pss@juno.com>

Most Navy pilots have this hanging somewhere, but there may be some of
you who haven't seen it, or who might like to send it to future aviators.
Penny Schroeder
----------

HIGH FLIGHT

Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
  And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
  Of sun-split clouds -- and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of -- wheeled and soared and swung
  High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
  My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long, delirious burning blue,
  I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew.
  And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
The high untresspassed sanctity of space,
  Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.  -- John Gillespie Magee

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA24180
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:41:24 -0600 (CST)
From: TRMan221@aol.com
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:42:28 EST
Subject: usna-net: (no subject)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org, Wister1@aol.com

Travis,

Heard you called last night and also that you talked with Annette.  Now 
around 12:45, give us a call when you get this message we'll be at home or 
over at Chris and Susan's helping them move.

Love,

Dad

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA03410
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:42:34 -0600 (CST)
From: "The Kerchevals" <kercheval_hou@msn.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: RE: usna-net: Uniform of the Day on Holidays
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:43:45 -0600
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<<How does he find out what the uniform of the day is when he is home?>>

Hi Mark & Nina,
Last year we had the same challenge with Spring Break. I called our local
Navy recruiter and he was happy to tell us which uniform "season" they were
observing. I also think I remember you saying Brian was planing a trip to
California to see old high school friends, so if he will be somewhere other
than home, we had good luck at finding phone numbers for recruiting offices
at Navyjobs.com

Paula Kercheval
Houston, TX
Jason 02/18
Christy 03/14



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA18594
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:17:42 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:14:25 -0500 (EST)
From: John Ventura <ventura@RS3.npt.nuwc.navy.mil>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org


	Marilyn Szwarc ,
	I have misplaced your e-mail adress. Please respond to
	this note to ventura@rs3.npt.nuwc.navy.mil.
	Regarding video of Notre Dame - Navy football game.

					John

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA22431
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 20:33:42 -0600 (CST)
From: Nancy765@aol.com
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 21:34:45 EST
Subject: usna-net: Help for Sponsor Gifts
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello family,
    I would like to send some things to our son's sponsor family for the 
upcoming holidays.  I am especially looking for the names and phone numbers 
of a florist in Severna Park and a store specializing in honey baked hams in 
the same area.  I have tried the Internet yellow pages but Severna Park was 
not listed.  
    As you all know, we could never come close to repaying a sponsor family, 
but I think of them so often and I can't let Thanksgiving or Christmas pass 
without showing some appreciation.
    Answer me off the net with specific merchant names/phone numbers please!!
    Thanks for all your help.

    Nancy Rogers
    Steve, 02/26
    Hamilton, OH

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA19903
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 07:51:27 -0600 (CST)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: <Bruzar@aol.com>, "USNA-Net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <0.662d0c4f.255653ce@aol.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Uniform of the Day on Holidays
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:48:54 -0500
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<<How does he find out what the uniform of the day is when he is home?>>

You can never go wrong with Service Dress for most any occasion. At
Christmas, Winter (SDB) would be appropriate. If there is a special occasion
such as a Ball, Dinner, etc., there will be a posted dress. UOD's are
otherwise specific to specific military units and your son/duahter would
fall under their direct command, and as such, would not be affected by that
UOD (i.e. the base may be wearing Cammies/Fatigues for a Readiness
Inspection, but you aren't "playing" in it).

Bottom Line: Winter - SDB's.

Beat Army!

Gregg


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA22975
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:02:52 -0600 (CST)
From: Nancy765@aol.com
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:04:00 EST
Subject: usna-net: Thanks for gift ideas
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Thank you to all who have responded so quickly about my request for Severna 
Park florists and Honey Baked Ham stores.  You are great!!!

I even received a few new ideas.  Yes, we have gone the route of gifts that 
are from our locale.  The new idea I rec'd that sounds good is the glassware 
or jewelry by an  artist in our area, or glasses with the imprint of a local 
place of history from our area.  

To everyone:  enjoy your Thanksgiving!!

Nancy Rogers
Steve 02/26
Hamilton, OH

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA27292
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:01:54 -0600 (CST)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:03:00 EST
Subject: usna-net: Hint
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello,
We hosted 4 members of the D&B for the Rice Game. My husband was so impressed 
with these mids that he wrote a letter to Admiral Ryan. As a result these 
mids received a letter of commendation and a copy of my husbands letter in 
their file, so all you parents out there who have hosted mids and were 
impressed should tell the Academy about it. 
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
LTWT CREW
Houston, TX

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA01685
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:56:29 -0600 (CST)
From: mark.meissner@prodigy.net
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:58:08 -0500 (EST)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Army-Navy Game Tickets Wanted

Two (2) Army-Navy Game tickets wanted for Mid family of four. Have promise of two in email (one each from two wonderful individuals), looking for promise of two more to complete a set for a family of four. 

If you have one or two available please email me privately. 

Signed,
(Still) An Appreciative Optimist
Mark in MKE
414-256-3263 (o)
414-607-9976 (h)
 
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA02066
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:11:10 -0600 (CST)
From: MPOVONDRA@aol.com
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:12:15 EST
Subject: usna-net: Uniforms going home
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

    Hi All;

There was a question about what uniform our Mids wear going home for holiday 
breaks.   
After spending over 30 years in the military, I was under the assumption that 
ALL members of the armed forces must travel in civvies.  
The last time I did any traveling for the military was in 1992, and at that 
time I was told that I COULD NOT travel in uniform.  Knowing that things 
change, I would check with my Mid to make sure of the regs of today.

Marc F. Povondra

Marc T. 03/14

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA03394
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:08:18 -0600 (CST)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 21:06:10 -0500
From: Jan Jason <bludevil@warwick.net>
To: usna-net <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Still Hoping

Hi,

I am still cautiously optimistic and hoping that one of my listserver
friends will miraculously come up with two tickets to the Army-Navy
Game.  Even if your plans change at the last minute, please let me 
know !

Thanks,

Jan Jason
Warwick, NY
Kyle, '01

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA06547
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:40:56 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
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To Marc P. and All...

Plebes are required to travel to and from the Yard in their uniform.  Once
he is home, he can change clothes into whatever he wishes while on leave.

Them's the rules.

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA10538
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:08:46 -0600 (CST)
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From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" <civies03@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Christmas Vacation Return
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 22:09:56 EST

To All,
  Could someone out there help me;  I am somewhat baffled.  I have received 
two different dates for the mids return to the Yard after Christmas 
vacation.  One source said that they must be back on Jan. 4th for classes to 
resume on the 5th.  The other source said they are due back on the 5th for 
classes to begin on the 6th.  Before I make a fool of myself by making a 
phone call, does someone know for sure what the correct date is?
  Thanks

Be Loud! Be Proud! Go Navy!
Have A Great Navy Day!
Anne & Dennis Kolb
Matt 03 7th Co.
Long Island, NY, USA

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA14363
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 06:17:08 -0600 (CST)
From: MaryMLakes@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:18:06 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: Christmas Vacation Return
To: civies03@hotmail.com
CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi all!

I looked up the schedule on the Official Academy website (www.usna.edu) and 
found the following information:  January Intercessional  1-5 thru 1-7; 4/C 
Majors Briefing  1-7; Classes begin  1-10-00.

Our son told us they have to be back by the 5th of January.  However, some of 
them, including him, have to be back earlier :( .  He told us that he has to 
be back by January 2nd, something to do with Winter Track.  Also, our 
Parent's Club sponsors a bus that takes them back after holidays--they always 
follow the official schedule--and they're returning on the 5th.  So, unless 
they've been told to be back sooner, it looks like the latest they have to 
return is January 5th.

Now, a question:  Does anyone know what the Intercessional is all about?  
Thanks to all you wonderful parents out there--we love our new "navy family"!

I love my Mid!
Go Navy! Beat Army!
Mary Christensen
Daniel 03/19
Medford Lakes  NJ

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA20563
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:59:15 -0600 (CST)
From: "Van Spiros" <BismarkS@worldnet.att.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: military fares
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:33:36 -0500
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Hi all,
I usually find it works out well to get a military fare for my son.  The
only stipulation that the airlines require me to tell him and my other
clients is that a military ID is required and must be shown at check in. 
It is NOT required by the airlines to travel in military uniform.
FYI    You might want to encourage your Mid to travel with carry-on luggage
only, whenever possible.  The airlines also suspect military-looking gear
and luggage and have the right to break locks on seabags etc,  and often
delay its arrival.  Last summer, my son, returning from an assignment and
traveling in uniform,  was shocked that his gear was delayed and its
whereabouts was unknown.  His seabag's lock was broken off;  and the seabag
clearly identified was searched, and poorly resecured. When the seabag and
USNA garment bag did arrive at the airport, a not too happy Mid was told
that military looking gear is especially suspect and often chosen for
search because of the various activities of paramilitary groups!
Go Navy!!  Beat Army!!
Carolyn Spiros
Needham, MA


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA22285
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:16:04 -0600 (CST)
From: Msimon2739@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:17:05 EST
Subject: usna-net: Surgery
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

My son has informed us that he goes in for knee scope surgery Tues.  We are 
trying to decide if we could go down.  He says "no"  because it's no big deal 
and that after recovery they will take him to Bancroft to stay in his bed for 
2 days.  Does anyone have experience with the surgery?  Or the recuperation 
procedure after surgery at the academy?  

Gabriela
Mike  03  25th

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA02708
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:22:43 -0600 (CST)
From: Paula Kercheval <PaulaK@hartz-chicken.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Health Update
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:12:51 -0600

Words alone can not express my overwhelming gratitude for this net! We
received well over 30 replies to my request for information. Your sense
of care and  concern plus offers of support and assistance were mind
boggling. I have learned so much and really know what to expect and
anticipate not only now, but in the future. There isn't enough money to
pay for a resource as valuable as this network!

As to Christy's situation:

1) Right now she does not want me to come to USNA - most of that has to
do with being a Plebe and a female one at that. Now I'm not trying to
start an issue here:-), but I understand her perspective - women have to
be twice as good and three times as tough. She is part of the team and
does not want special treatment or to show any weakness. However,
because of our own family history (very long story) she does appreciate
and understand my desire to be there.

2)Her compromise (and I promise I didn't twist that hurting wrist:-) is
to have the surgery here at home during the Christmas break. I'm very
grateful this is an options for us - considering we both have such
strong wills. 

Thanks again for your thoughts, prayers and well wishes. 
And thank you Mike and Sandi for holding us all together.

Paula Kercheval
Houston, TX
Jason 02/18
Christy 03/14

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA08461
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:27:04 -0600 (CST)
From: "Lynn Tyll" <ctyll@avci.net>
To: <Msimon2739@aol.com>, <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Surgery
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:00:46 -0500
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Gabriela,
   My son experienced the knee scope last year.  It's a very simple
procedure, and while as a parent I know you'll be concerned, take heart. 
They will transport your son to and from the hospital, and then he'll have
the chance to rest when he gets back.  They seem to recover quickly from
this, no ill effects were suffered to my knowledge.  Note:  he won't be the
only one on the bus......they take many over at one time.  The hardest part
is waiting your turn once you arrive.  Good Luck!
GO NAVY!!!!!!
Lynn
Christopher '01/4
Rugby

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA16637
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:10:34 -0600 (CST)
From: ACTIONCHEM@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:11:37 EST
Subject: usna-net: army/navy tickets
To: USNA-NET@navy-usna.org, usna-plebe@navy-usna.org

Hi,  
  I've seen several requests for army/navy  tickets.  I then begain to wonder 
if people have already received theirs.  As of this date, we haven't. I'm now 
nervous since we have invited my son's sponsor family and made hotel 
reservations.  I've tried to get through to the ticket office with no 
success.  I would appreciate any information as to when the tickets are 
mailed.
  I, also , plan to go to St Patricks, NYC,  this Sunday.  I will say hello 
and take whatever pictures I can of the Catholic Choir.

  Beat Army and enjoy Thanksgiving  with your mid,
   Penny Hulbert  Eric 02/16

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA16819
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:23:05 -0600 (CST)
From: "Dan Crestetto" <dcrestet@mail.sandi.net>
To: "NAVY" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Naval Academy Veteran
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:24:21 -0800
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Just wanted to share this news item with all.  This veteran was =
attending the Academy on Dec. 7, 1941.  He is now retiring (the oldest =
vet) tomorrow at ceremonies at Arlington.  Should be quite a ceremony.  =
If anyone lives in the area and attends, please take some pics and post =
them.  We live in Ca.  Thanks and enjoy this most patriotic celebration =
- those who gave the ultimate sacrifice.   Dan Crestetto,  Jeremy, '02

http://www.cnn.com/US/9911/10/oldest.serviceman.ap/index.html

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA17014
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:26:51 -0600 (CST)
From: PortCD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:27:58 EST
Subject: usna-net: Re: Mailing of army/navy tickets
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

To all wondering about the arrival of Army/Navy game tickets:

Our NC Parents club website says that the tickets will be sent two weeks 
prior to the game, so it would seem that it we have another week to go before 
we see the tickets.  Isn't it wonderful to have something to look forward to.

GO NAVY!! BEAT ARMY!!

See you at the game.
Cathy Portaro, Durham, NC
Jacob 01/01

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA19203
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:08:08 -0600 (CST)
From: LiliaMayer@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:09:11 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: Christmas Vacation Return/Winter Track
To: MaryMLakes@aol.com, civies03@hotmail.com
CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi Mary,
  My son, Justin 03/07 will also be doing winter track.  He also has to be 
back on Jan. 2.  Since I live in Richmond, VA , I hope to go to some of the 
meets.  Perhaps we'll have a chance to greet one another and cheer together 
for the team!
  Lilia Mayer 

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA19712
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:23:56 -0600 (CST)
From: JOHNELLHUN@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:24:53 EST
Subject: usna-net: Dulles at T'giving
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Said this once before, but got no takers.  Foolish to try again?  Hope 
springs eternal! Is there a mid anywhere who is allowed to drive and who 
needs a ride to Dulles on Wed., Nov. 24?  Deal is, I don't like to drive the 
Beltway.  Should pick up an ensign coming in for the holiday and who's got 
bus tickets (2 hrs worth) to get from there to here, but I'd rather, if 
possible pick him up.  Use my car, I go along, drop mid off at proper 
airline, I pick up ensign (former mid), and off we go.  I'll pick up "taking" 
mid at Yard.  Live right around the corner from Gate 1.  But then he/she 
drives to Dulles with me.  (Is this not a chance of a lifetime?) Mrs.Johnell 
Hunter, 154 Prince George St. 410-626-1268

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA21713
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:48:31 -0600 (CST)
From: LiliaMayer@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:49:37 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: army/navy tickets
To: ACTIONCHEM@aol.com, USNA-NET@navy-usna.org, usna-plebe@navy-usna.org

The ticket office is swamped.  I managed to reach them today to confirm that 
they had gotten my fax order.  The tickets have not gone out yet, but all is 
in order.  If you want peace of mind, keep dialing.
Lilia Mayer
Richmond VA
Jusitn 03/07

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA01976
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:46:14 -0600 (CST)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: "Dan Crestetto" <dcrestet@mail.sandi.net>, "NAVY" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <000701bf2bca$5630f360$2d8718a5@4504-d.moc.sandi.net>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Naval Academy Veteran
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:45:51 -0500
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Dan,

You may have committed a sin. As far as I know this is not germane to Naval
Academy Parenting or giving birth to the Naval Academy?

Mike,

Ease up Bud. Remember, if we can't laugh at ourselves, we won't be able to
join with our friends.

Beat Army!! Beat Tulane!!

V/R,

Gregg
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To: NAVY <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 5:24 PM
Subject: usna-net: Naval Academy Veteran



Just wanted to share this news item with all.  This veteran was attending
the Academy on Dec. 7, 1941.  He is now retiring (the oldest vet) tomorrow
at ceremonies at Arlington.  Should be quite a ceremony.  If anyone lives in
the area and attends, please take some pics and post them.  We live in Ca.
Thanks and enjoy this most patriotic celebration - those who gave the
ultimate sacrifice.   Dan Crestetto,  Jeremy, '02

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA10237
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:39:48 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Veterans' Day Tribute
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:39:59 -0500
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To all,

For those of you that weren't on the Lists last year at this time or for
those that haven't been to our Club's Website in Northeast Ohio, I'd like to
invite you to visit www.neonap.org and check out our special tribute to
Veterans on their National Holiday.

As we send our sons and daughters to the Navy to become officers and
leaders, I thought you'd appreciate this particular webpage that Sandi and I
put together last year in honor of Veterans' Day.

It's at www.neonap.org/veteran/html or Click on the "What is a Veteran" link
on our main site at www.neonap.org.

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA15051
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:21:19 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Veterans' Day Tribute
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:21:42 -0500
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Correction of earlier typo...

It's at www.neonap.org/veteran.html 

or 

Click on the "What is a Veteran" link
on our main site at www.neonap.org.

Mike




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA16817
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:54:32 -0600 (CST)
From: "gandy" <hwgandy@localaccess.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Academy mids to tour DC on Veterans Day
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:58:58 -0600
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Hey there Gregg and Mike and Dan(you may already know), guess what?  There
are  several bus loads leaving the Academy tomorrow to spend the day in DC
"officallly on a tour."  They have Arlington on the schedule of places they
are going.  Our  3/c mid Jonathan called and told  us he was going and  was
looking forward to it.  Maybe they are going for the ceremony also.  It
would certainly be impressive to have the oldest veterans surrounded by some
of the youngest!
      He said it was an official Movement Order---  So maybe Dan's posting
WAS  about navy parenting (or at least about some of us navy parents wanting
another navy parent to go and take pictures) and if any of you ARE in the
area-- take pictures of  any the mids you see!  Please--  It could be mine!

Jackie "let me tell you about my mid"  Gandy
'02-30 co. "Dirty Hockey" , D & B -contra bass
Guntersville, Alabama
Go NAVY! Beat Army!




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA19459
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:22:02 -0600 (CST)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: "gandy" <hwgandy@localaccess.net>, <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <00ea01bf2c44$85781160$9fc6e4d0@gandy>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Academy mids to tour DC on Veterans Day
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:21:26 -0500
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<<if any of you ARE in the
area-- take pictures of  any the mids you see!  Please--  It could be mine!

Jackie "let me tell you about my mid"  Gandy>>

I'm out and about today. Though not going to DC, but I'll bring my camera
along and hijack any USNA bus I see and get pix for you!!  ;-)

BEAT ARMY!!! (Prediction: 35-7, Navy!)

Gregg


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA20856
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:39:23 -0600 (CST)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: "USNA-Net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Happy Veterans Day!
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:38:31 -0500
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Happy Veterans Day to all Vets, present past and future. We as parents,
friends, sons & daughters, owe you a lot! Be sure to thank your Mids!

Why is Veterans Day (Once Armistice Day) Today?:

World War I ended on this day in 1918 with the signing of
the Armistice.

November 11, 1918
World War I ended when Germany, bereft of manpower, supplies and
food, signed an armistice agreement.  The war's tolls were at least
10 million dead, 6 million of them civilians, and 21 million wounded.
One of the points of contention of the armistice, from the US side,
was that it allowed Germany to surrender without accepting defeat.

And on this day in 1921, President Harding dedicated the
Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery.

November 11, 1982
Paying homage to US soldiers who served in the Vietnam War, the
Vietnam Veterans Memorial was dedicated in Washington, D.C.  Designed
by 21-year old Maya Ying Lin, the long-awaited memorial is a simple
black granite wall, inscribed with the names of over 58,000 Americans
who died in the conflict.  Initially opposed by many veterans'
groups, public opinion shifted as people began walking along the
black reflective wall and realizing the almost sacred nature of the
memorial.

The wall brought together those who fought and those who marched
against the war:
http://www.nps.gov/vive/index2.htm

Born on this day:

General George "Blood and Guts" Patton was born on this day
in 1885. Patton commanded the Third Army in the liberation of
Paris during World War Two.

Be sure to see the World War II Memorial. It site across the Severn
overlooking the US Naval Academy!!

Too bad it is not a National Holiday! But, I digress. Happy Vet's DAy to
All!!

BEAT ARMY!!!!

Gregg



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA21225
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:53:14 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: USNA-Net Get-together...
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:53:36 -0500
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To all...

For those of you that will be in Annapolis on Friday night before this
weekend's Tulane v Navy game, Sandi and I will be holding our usual USNA-Net
late night get together on Friday night at O'Brian's Oyster Bar across from
the City Docks at 2200 Hrs. in the back room.

If you can join us, everyone is welcome.  We may even have our Mid in tow.
The more the merrier.  Remember to wear your name tags with Red, White and
Blue ribbons attached.

Mike Zets


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA24605
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:26:48 -0600 (CST)
From: LiliaMayer@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:27:45 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: Happy Veterans Day!
To: steinhilpert@74.usafa.org, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Thank you, Greg, for this quick summary of the history that gives meaning to 
this Veterean's Day.  May I forward it to my plebe?
Lilia Mayer
Richmond, VA
Justin 03/07

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21337
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:18:45 -0600 (CST)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:57:49 EST
Subject: usna-net: OTHELLO
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Since Mike mentioned the you-know-what on Saturday, I would like to say that 
if you ARE in town for that event, think about coming Friday or staying over 
Saturday to see OTHELLO.  (The Arts are alive and well at the Naval Academy, 
but perhaps not as well followed as you-know-what!)  OTHELLO is done 
contemporarily, and is a mere two hours long, so even non-Shakespeare buffs 
should enjoy!

Amy Soule

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21503
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:20:04 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Website not there...
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:18:12 -0500
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To all,

Our server was out of action for a period of time today which means that the
website and your List's email were not working right.  It appears that the
website is back in business and email should be working now as well.

Thanks for your patience.


Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA03065
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:01:51 -0600 (CST)
From: DFis341244@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:51:35 EST
Subject: usna-net: usna-sports  crew at Princeton
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

We are going to Princeton crew on Sunday bringing sodas and hoagies.  Does 
anybody want to meet and coordinate a table for the crew team.  If interested,
you can email me privately at dfis341244@aol.co
Thanks  Elaine


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA07312
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:10:13 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Which List???
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:10:36 -0500
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To all new and not so new members...

Please allow me to bore you all with the details of our List Structure one
more time.  It's necessary since some of you don't know or have forgotten
how we are set up.

Please DO NOT send the same message to more than one list, EVER.  Here's
why...

EVERYONE belongs to USNA-Net.

SOME of those belong to nothing else.

MOST of those USNA-Net members ALSO belong to USNA-Plebe and/or USNA-Sports
and/or USNA-ClubNet.

SOME belong to all four.

So sending one message to USNA-Net gets it to everyone, guaranteed.

USNA-Net is the Master List

USNA-Plebe, USNA-Sports and USNA-Clubnet are all sub-lists of USNA-Net.
Sort of subcommittees with more specialized interests.

So if your message pertains to USNA-Sports send it to that list only.
Likewise, Plebe stuff or the chattier news or discussions belong on Plebe.
But please, don't send the same message to more than one list in an effort
to "get it to everyone."  If you want to send your posting to everyone, just
send it ONCE, to USNA-Net.  It's really that simple.

Sending the same email to more than one list just clogs up our system and
fills our archives with extra stuff that doesn't need to be there.  I'm also
forced to send gentle reminders to each of you that do that and there I go
again being the Net Police.  It's not a job I like and if you will all just
give your "addressing" a little more thought BEFORE you hit the send button,
you will make me one happy Moderator with far less email to send and more
free time to be spent on improving our website and information base in the
Parents Handbook, etc.

Don't mean to harp on the same subject all the time but a guy's gotta do
what a guy's gotta do until each and every one of our members understands
how this danged thing works.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA07711
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:42:23 -0600 (CST)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:56:58 -0500
From: Richard Santillo <richbev@bellsouth.net>
To: Navy Net Listserver <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: What to do for birthdays at the Academy

I recall my son telling me he wanted no one to know it was his birthday
when he was a plebe.  However,  now that my mid is an upperclass, I'd
like to know what other parents have done for their mids to celebrate a
birthday on the Yard.  I was thinking about having a cake (or something
else?) sent to Bancroft for him and would like suggestions on what to do
and how to do it.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice!

Bev Santillo (Atlanta)
Doug 01/19




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA07857
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:49:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Stamperhog@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:49:59 EST
Subject: Re:  usna-net: What to do for birthdays at the Academy
To: richbev@bellsouth.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org


In a message dated 11/12/99 12:44:49 AM, richbev@bellsouth.net wrote:

<<I recall my son telling me he wanted no one to know it was his birthday
when he was a plebe.  However,  now that my mid is an upperclass, I'd
like to know what other parents have done for their mids to celebrate a
birthday on the Yard.>>

Ben told me that a Stealth Birthday is ALWAYS preferred, as upperclass "get 
it" just like Plebes (well, ALMOST like Plebes). So I just did a private 
little thing, a basket of cheese, bread and meats from a place in  Market 
square, and let him pick it up downtown on the weekend closest to his BD, to 
share with his friends.

Lynn

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA07929
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:50:52 -0600 (CST)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:52:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Christine Enders <ifourgotit@yahoo.com>
Subject: usna-net: Daddy, What is a Vet?
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>

Charlie Sykes had a special tribute to vets on this
mornings program.  Here it is in full context.

Daddy, What is a Vet?

Some veterans bear visible signs of their service:  a
missing limb, a jagged scar, a certain look in the
eye.  Others may carry the evidence inside them:  a
pin holding a bone together, a piece of shrapnel in
the leg or perhaps another sort of inner steel:  the
soul's alloy forged in the refinery of adversity. 
Except in parades, however, the men and women who have
kept America safe wear no badge or emblem.  You can't
tell a vet just by looking.

What is a vet?

He is the cop on the beat who spent six months in
Saudi Arabia sweating two gallons a day making sure
the armored personnel carriers didn't run out of fuel.

He is the barroom loudmouth, dumber than five wooden
planks, whose overgrown frat-boy behavior is
outweighed a hundred times in the cosmic scales by
four hours of exquisite bravery near the 38th
parallel.

She is the nurse who fought against futility and went
to sleep sobbing every night for two solid years in Da
Nang.

He is the POW who went away one person and came back
another -- or didn't come back at all.

He is the Quantico Drill instructor who has never seen
combat but has saved countless lives by turning
slouchy, no-account rednecks and gang members into
Marines.  Teaching them to watch each other's backs.

He is the parade-riding Legionnaire who pins on his
ribbons and medals with a prosthetic hand.

He is the career quartermaster who watches the ribbons
and medals pass him by.

He is any of the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb of
the Unknowns. whose presence at the Arlington National
Cemetery must forever preserve the memory of all the
anonymous heroes whose valor dies unrecognized with
them on the battlefield or in the ocean's sunless
deep.

He is the old guy bagging groceries at the
supermarket-palsied now and aggravatingly slow-who
helped liberate a Nazi death camp and who wishes all
day long that his wife were still alive to hold him
when the nightmare comes.

He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being
- a person who offered some of life's most vital years
in the service of his country and who sacrificed his
ambitions so others would not have to sacrifice
theirs.

He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the
darkness and he is nothing more than the finest,
greatest testimony on behalf of the finest, greatest
nation ever known.

So remember, each time you see someone who has served
our country, just lean over and say "Thank You". 
That's all most people need and in most cases it will
mean more than any medals they could have been awarded
. . . or were awarded.  Two little words that mean a
lot, "THANK YOU."

Remember November 11th is Veterans Day.

"It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us
freedom of the press.  It is the soldier, not the
poet, who has give us freedom of speech.  It is the
soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us
the freedom to demonstrate.  It is the soldier, who
salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag. And
whose coffin draped by the flag, who allows the
protestor to burn the flag."

Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

Stopping at the local pub tonight after work, I asked
out loud to the dozen people if anyone was a vet.  One
said yes out of all of them.  All I said to him was
thank you.  He proceeded to tell all of us about his
experiences in the Air Force and what it meant to him.


I also thought about what it meant to me.  Our sons
and daughters will be vets.  Let us honor and respect
them as human beings first, protectors of our country
second and lastly as our kids.  They have chosen their
life's ambitions.  And of the vets that served in the
previous wars and conflicts and looking towards the
new Millennium, let us all hope and pray that they
will only have to protect our country and not have to
fight for our country as the vets in the past have had
to.     

Thank you, Vets.  You are what this country is all
about.  Be proud-stand tall-be strong -you are what
this country is built on and I am proud to be American
because of what you have done for us.

Christine Enders
WI
Cale Johnson - '03-10 D&B






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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA08473
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:34:53 -0600 (CST)
From: Navymom02@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:36:02 EST
Subject: usna-net: A taste of hero worship
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Here is an interesting little slice of life from the Academy.  I really 
enjoyed hearing about it, hope you all will too!

On Veteran's day, one sponsor who happens to be an elementary school teacher, 
picked up 6 Youngsters and took them to her school.  There they went to 
separate classes and read a children's book about the VietNam wall to the 
students.  The teacher told me she can never make it through reading this 
book aloud without the tears starting.  The Mids did a terrific job, and the 
students "went nuts", according to the Mids.  Each Mid had to sign many 
autographs, and each had a small taste of hero worship.  They felt it was as 
inspiring and stimulating for them as it was for the children.  Before 
returning to the yard, they were treated to dinner out with the Sponsor.  
What great opportunities they enjoy, with many more to follow.

Go Navy - Beat Army
Mary Cannici, NJ

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA11799
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 05:18:34 -0600 (CST)
From: Dilyargo@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:19:45 EST
Subject: usna-net: Heading off to Crabtown!
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi Family ~

The car is being packed as I'm writing this.  We are heading off to what 
looks to be a great weekend and hope to meet some 'family' members along the 
way.  We'll be seeing Othello tonight (Fri) at 2000, followed by a visit to 
O'Brian's to join the Zets, et al.  Tailgating before and after the game with 
the NJ Club - near Gate C.  Sunday brunch with Sponsor family.  Mid(s) to 
hug!  Tickets in hand!  Room at the Lodge!  Weather looks great!  Is this Mom 
smiling, or what!?

We'll be wearing our ID's - you do the same - see you there!

Diane & Joe Gorsky - NJ
Lora 03/01

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA13124
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:04:23 -0600 (CST)
From: NavyWest@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:05:31 EST
Subject: usna-net: birthdays
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

It is the time for me also to think about my daughters birthday.

My daughters plebe year I sent her the usual "girly things" bath and body 
stuff,favorite foods,money for movies. and money  so she could celebrate 
"privately".

Her youngster year I sent her cheeses,breads,and fruit that was a big success 
because the local Annapolis company sent plates,utensils with it and she was 
able to celebrate with her friends in her room.

Last year the BIG 21st ONE  I sent her a full sheet cake ("POOH CAKE her 
favorite Disney character,you should see her room )and she loved that because 
she celebrated  with everybody.She took alot of pictures so I got to see 
everything and it looked like she was having a great time.

I send all of her gifts in plenty of time so she can open them at the party 
and enjoy what ever I send per Annapolis company.
The company drops the food  off at the Main Office and they send a message to 
your mid and they can pick it up when they have time.In the three years going 
on four Ive never had a problem and have always  been happy with the results.
Just remember the mids like to share so just order plenty for all.

If your mids  birthday falls on a Friday or Saturday all the mids are out so 
try celebrating by sending your cake etc.on the Thurs before or Sunday after.

Sincerely,Pat West,00,19


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA20092
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:34:38 -0600 (CST)
From: Msimon2739@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:35:48 EST
Subject: usna-net: Surgery
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I just want to thank all of you who have written me about the surgery my son 
will have.  I especially want to thank Mike & Sandy Zets for setting up this 
program because as a plebe mom I don't know how I would have gotten along 
without it.  I find answers to questions that I didn't even think to ask 
about life at the academy.  Thank you--thank you--thank you.  It looks like 
everything has been handled by the academy.  Tutors have been lined up to 
help my son for those days that he will not be able to attend classes.  The 
main thing is that he is not concerned at all and wants to proceed 
immediately before he does more damage that might effect his career.

Thanks bunches to everyone.

Gabriela
Mike  03  25th   
Go Navy----Beat Army

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA28192
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:14:07 -0600 (CST)
From: SmittyMom@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:14:35 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: What to do for birthdays at the Academy
To: richbev@bellsouth.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Dear Bev
I don't have the address here, but the Naval Academy Primary School makes 
homemade cakes to order and delivers them to Bancroft. Try calling the main 
switchboard, and they can probably connect you or give you the phone #.
It is a fundraiser for the school.
Best wishes
Michele Smith
Megan 02/11

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA28300
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:16:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Stamperhog@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:17:24 EST
Subject: Re:  usna-net: birthdays
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org


In a message dated 11/12/99 8:06:54 AM, NavyWest@aol.com wrote:

<<In the three years going 
on four Ive never had a problem and have always  been happy with the 
results.>>

*I* did have a problem a few months ago. I sent some bread, meat and cheese 
to my son at the dorm on a Wednesday, and asked to have it delivered on 
Thursday. I told him it was coming, so he was on the "lookout".  He called 
the office Thursday evening to ask if it had arrived, and they told him it 
had. So he went down to the office to get it but was told that it was 
"somewhere else" and to go back to his company area to wait for its delivery. 
He waited all that evening and nothing came. He began checking on it the next 
AM, but of course, had to go to class. Friday afternoon rolled around, and 
nothing. He had "taken a weekend" that weekend, and had plans to go out of 
town with somone, so he had no choice but leave. When he arrived back in his 
room Sunday, there sat the food, all warm (the cheese) and hard (the bread) 
and spoiled (the meat). When I contacted the shop that delivered it, they 
told me that they HAD had this problem before, with people not getting the 
stuff to the right person, or sometimes even EATING it and not delivering it 
at all. So from now on, my son says he will just go get it himself. 
Delivering non-perishables MIGHT be something  I;d be willing to take a 
chance on, but not bread and meat anymore.

Lynn

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA00564
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:04:13 -0600 (CST)
From: "WAYNE QUAYLE" <wquayle@email.msn.com>
To: "usna-net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Birthdays
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:07:17 -0600
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To all,
Our plebe's 19th birthday was in early September. She requested a birthday
cake to feed the company.  The local supermarket did a wonderful job on
delivery complete with napkins and plates.  If you want details, e-mail me
privately.
Kathie Quayle
Lisa 03/24
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA11383
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:46:43 -0600 (CST)
From: CCARTUS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:47:47 EST
Subject: usna-net: Tulane Tickets
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I know that it's incredibly late, but does anyone know of any tickets that 
might be  available for the Tulane game?  I only need one.  Thanks.  
Catherine Cartus  (Kristen '02)

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA14619
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:58:15 -0600 (CST)
From: LiliaMayer@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:59:15 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: Heading off to Crabtown!
To: Dilyargo@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi folks!  Drop by the Central VA Parents' tailgate at 32A.  We're serving 
warm home-made soups and hot cider!
LiliaMayer
Richmond VA
Jusitn 03/07

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA14718
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:59:42 -0600 (CST)
From: YupKim@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:00:42 EST
Subject: usna-net: military fares
To: BismarkS@worldnet.att.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org

I may be missing it last few years. Could you clarify: 1) what airline 
honored a military fare; 2) if you used travel agent or some other means?

We live in Houston, TX; hence the best airline and flight has been usually 
Continental fro BWI to IAH. We usually purchase the ticket for our Mid, 4-6 
weeks in advance most of time. We had to pay $617 for this Thanksgiving, 
which is awefully high for 3 day stay, since he can NOT stay for OpInfo this 
year due to impending review of his school work right after Thanksgiving. The 
fare used to be ~$400 in '98 and $198 in '97. I asked about the military fare 
in '97 and CO said they didn't have one. Perhaps, it has been changed and I 
failed to ask more subsequently? :-( ?

Would very much appreciate if you can educate us. It's never too late to 
learn...

Yup & Bonnie Kim
Jeremy '01/20

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA17906
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:30:10 -0600 (CST)
From: Smcchic72@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:31:14 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: Birthdays
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org (usna-net)

Our daughter also had a mid-Sept. birthday.  Since she is a plebe and we 
didn't want to draw any extra attention, I asked her if she wanted me to send 
cake and made sure that she knew I would send plenty to share.  I was unable 
to order but, luckily we live close, so I bought two large sheet cakes, 
plastic forks, plates and napkins and took off work early to drop them at the 
Main Office of Bancroft.  As luck would have it, two plebes from her company 
were there and they were instructed to take it to her room.  I told them to 
be sure to tell her that she owed them each a piece.  (They also had the 
"privilege" of not having to "chop" because they were delivering the cake.)  
It was a big hit with all and they even sang "Happy Birthday" to her at Blue 
& Gold that night!

Sherry Samar
Jordan 03/16

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA21096
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:07:52 -0600 (CST)
From: PWestover@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:09:04 EST
Subject: usna-net: Air Fares
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi!     
     This is in response to questions about cheap air fares and military 
fares from Annapolis.  I am travel agent, who had a daughter in the Class of 
'98 - I am currently taking some time off and NOT working, but I would be 
happy to give some tips to anyone who E-Mails me.  First of all, our agency 
did not pay commission to any agents - all salaried, but we took great pride 
and joy in getting the lowest price for the Mids.  We did everything from 
Spring Break, European jaunts, leave and honeymoons.  In response to some of 
the questions:
     Military fares are usually only used when flight has to occur at the 
last minute - emergency, change of schedule, etc.  Otherwise they are NO 
bargain.
     Your best rates are usually 2 weeks advanced-notice or in some cases (to 
the west coast) 3 weeks-advanced notice.
      For almost everyone, flying out of BWI (Baltimore) is cheaper and 
quicker.  If I have a choice, I use Southwest (NO, I don't own stock in the 
company or have any connection to them - we just live near one of their 
hubs!)  They usually have the most competitive fares, but even if another 
airline matches their fare you should consider that S.W. will NOT charge a 
change fee if you need to change your ticket.  All other domestic carriers 
charge $75/ticket to change.  Of course, if the fare goes up from the time 
you purchased it and the time you change it - you will have to pay the 
difference, but no penalty of $75 on Southwest.
     In all cases the major airlines have web sites that you can join and 
they will send you notice of their sales - Internet airline prices are often 
lower than the same ticket through a travel agent, airport or even directly 
through the airline.  Most airlines are encouraging travelers to book their 
own flights at home on their computers and don't offer these special fares to 
other outlets.  Sign on to several airline pages that have your town as a hub.
    Most important - if at all possible do an electronic ticket.  Once you 
have the locator number you can send it to your Mid by phone, fax or E-Mail 
and they don't need a ticket and have nothing to lose.  They also seem to be 
easier to change at the airport.  Many times my daughter flew out of BWI with 
just a number written on her hand and her I.D!!!
     If I can answer any individual questions, I'd be happy to.  Once again, 
I am not currently working and receive no financial benefit from this other 
than knowing that we can get a Mid home to his or her family for a reasonable 
fare (or to CanCun, if that is the order of the day!!!)

Good luck to all of you traveling this holiday!

BEAT ARMY!!!!

Pam Westover
Katy '98 (02)

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA21546
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:25:31 -0600 (CST)
From: Janet Ferrara <ferrara@ez2.net>
To: "'USNA Net'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Dining Hall chairs
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:26:38 -0800

Hi, friends
I received this question on my website:

<<<Hi
I've just received word from a friend in Virginia, that someone is selling 
the dining hall chairs to alumni.  Do you have any info on this?
Thanks, Mary >>>


Anybody know anything about this?


Thanks,

Go Navy, Beat Army!
Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, CA
Webmaster for USNA Parents' Club of Southern California
http://www.web2000.com/usnapcsc
Michael, Class of 2000, Co. 15



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA07302
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:45:24 -0600 (CST)
From: "JoAnn Selmo" <panyack@execpc.com>
To: <ferrara@ez2.net>, "'USNA Net'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Dining Hall chairs
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 22:03:15 -0600
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At the homecoming game a flier was placed on all car windshields stating
that all  chairs in King Hall had been replaced and they are selling the old
wooden ones....suggesting they would be a fun gift for a graduate....
My son did not think he wanted one....although I think it is an interesting
idea.  Sorry, I did not keep the information since my son was not
interested.

I ate in King Hall the next week.  The new chairs are a dark blue plastic
type material....The mids at my son's table think the old wooden ones were
much better, but none of them wanted one of the old chairs.
JoAnn Selmo
David '02 (20)
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet Ferrara <ferrara@ez2.net>
To: 'USNA Net' <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Date: Friday, November 12, 1999 6:32 PM
Subject: usna-net: Dining Hall chairs


>Hi, friends
>I received this question on my website:
>
><<<Hi
>I've just received word from a friend in Virginia, that someone is selling
>the dining hall chairs to alumni.  Do you have any info on this?
>Thanks, Mary >>>
>
>
>Anybody know anything about this?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Go Navy, Beat Army!
>Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, CA
>Webmaster for USNA Parents' Club of Southern California
>http://www.web2000.com/usnapcsc
>Michael, Class of 2000, Co. 15
>
>
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA04861
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 04:44:41 -0600 (CST)
From: pss@juno.com
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 04:45:02 -0500
Subject: usna-net: Ride to BWI
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Looking to hitch or share a ride to BWI Sun.  (11/14) late aft./early
eve, or any time Mon.
Penny Schroeder

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA16623
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:28:46 -0600 (CST)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:30:19 -0600
From: "Cindy Jaskowiak" <CJaskowiak@pkwy.k12.mo.us>
To: ferrara@ez2.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Dining Hall chairs
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On the King Hall chairs . . . the St. Louis Parents' Club Newsletter stated if you are interested in the chairs or would like more info, call CDR Steve Daughety USN (Ret) at 703-620-6413.

>>> Janet Ferrara <ferrara@ez2.net> 11/12 6:26 PM >>>
Hi, friends
I received this question on my website:

<<<Hi
I've just received word from a friend in Virginia, that someone is selling 
the dining hall chairs to alumni.  Do you have any info on this?
Thanks, Mary >>>


Anybody know any . . . thing about this?


Thanks,

Go Navy, Beat Army!
Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, CA
Webmaster for USNA Parents' Club of Southern California
http://www.web2000.com/usnapcsc 
Michael, Class of 2000, Co. 15



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA00533
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:54:20 -0600 (CST)
From: Alma659802@aol.com
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:55:24 EST
Subject: usna-net: re: HATS OFF
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi all.  While Alex and I were enjoying our Sunday afternoon chat, I asked 
him about this subject.  He said his company (30th) was one of  the 
exclamation points!!  He also explained that, out of respect, the practice 
was discontinued following the assassination of President Kennedy.  
  Alma
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA00561
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:54:45 -0600 (CST)
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:09:20 -0500
From: Richard Santillo <richbev@bellsouth.net>
To: Navy Net Listserver <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Fly the Brigade Flag When Mids are Home 

Hi all,
    I wanted to say thanks to all who offered birthday celebration
suggestions.  I heard about some new places to order from and got some
good ideas!
    When I went online, I read Andrea's posting about wanting to make a
banner to put out for her son when he comes home for Thanksgiving.  We
fly the USNA Brigade flag  whenever our mid is in here.  An upperclass
mom advised me of this tradition when our son was a plebe.  So now we
fly it to welcome him home and to let friends and neigbors know our Navy
mid is in town!
    Bev Santillo (Atlanta)
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA04397
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:39:50 -0600 (CST)
From: "The Kerchevals" <kercheval_hou@msn.com>
To: "Navy Net Listserver" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: RE: usna-net: Fly the Brigade Flag When Mids are Home 
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:41:36 -0600
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<<We fly the USNA Brigade flag  whenever our mid is here.>>

Well I guess we are just extremist here in Texas. When we came home from
I-day in July of 98 the first thing we did was install a 25 flag pole in the
front yard followed by a flood light with a photo cell that turns on at dusk
and off at dawn. We fly the Brigade Flag under the US Flag each and
everyday. We don't fly the Brigade Flag is on special days (i.e. Veteran's
Day) when we fly our "Special" 5 ft by 8 ft US flag with gold fringe
(haven't found a Brigade flag that big - yet:-) The only other time the
Brigade or US flag is not up is in bad weather (if we can get them down
before they get rained on) and for a few short weeks around Christmas when
the flag pole becomes the center for the giant Christmas tree we make with
strings of green lights.

Rick & Paula Kercheval
Houston, TX
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA14070
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:24:45 -0600 (CST)
From: HeyNita@aol.com
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:25:57 EST
Subject: usna-net: Taps
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Although the story about "Taps" was very touching, it appears it is not 
historically accurate.  Check the following website for information about how 
the song was written.

Juanita Chauvin
Andrew '02/ 09

http://www.dtic.mil/soldiers/may95/p28.html

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA14752
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:00:05 -0600 (CST)
From: "Christopher J. Smith" <wcoach@goes.com>
To: "USNA-NET" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Hats
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:56:38 -0500
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Just returned home from an awesome weekend in Annapolis. It started with the
game on Saturday for us. The NJ Parents club did another outstanding job
feeding the Mids. NJPC sets up outside gate "C" and the Mids were lined up,
eating, enjoying, laughing and having a great time at this tailgate.

From my vantage point in the stadium the remaining hats spelled:

GO NAVY BEAT ARMY

Halftime with my son....:-)

It was a nice surprise (the hat thing)...my son said that his company's
plebes joined other companies for the march on to create this display with
the hats. Dec.4 will be very interesting.

Dinner with my son,..........:-)

We also took in OTHELLO at Mitscher Hall Saturday night in attendance were:
VADM  John R. Ryan the Superintendent and RADM Gary Roughhead the Commandant
of Midshipmen. This William Shakespeare play by the Mids was captivating. If
your daughter's or sons had any part in this production you will be happy to
know that they put on a professional show. I am in awe of these young men
and women and even as I write this I am still wondering "how" they could
remember all that was required for this production, keep up with their
studies and physical requirements. FIVE STARS

Church On Sunday with my Mid., he was asked to help out and did. The voice
of the female Midshipmen singing was like an angel. There must have been 35+
Midshipmen helping out. The sound of the organ was like the winds blowing
through the autumn trees.

Breakfast with my son...:-)

We walked around the yard twice. The weather was warm with a nice breeze all
weekend...just right. We saw the Navy Hockey Team play a school with the
letters SSU on the front of their yellow jerseys. I don't have the score as
we didn't stay but I will say this our Midshipmen Hockey players are BIG and
play extremely physical Hockey.

Then to the Mid store which is open special when there is a home football
game. (Sunday) Did a little Christmas shopping with my son........:-)

It was then time to leave..:-(       But then on the bright side he will be
home for TG in a week and a half...:-)


Chris Smith
Brian '02, 9th


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA12632
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:38:47 -0600 (CST)
From: "Rhonda Densmore" <rd4navy02@mindspring.com>
To: "USNA-NET" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Birthday Greetings
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:42:33 -0600
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Hello All:

Wednesday 17 November will be my 3/C Mid's 19th birthday. If anyone would
like to join me in wishing him a "Happy Birthday", I would be grateful and
more than happy to forward the wishes to him.

Thanks,
Rhonda Densmore
Trussville, Alabama
PROUD Mom of Dave Tickle '02, 22nd


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA25327
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:37:09 -0600 (CST)
From: Bruce McFadden <bmcfadden@isomedia.com>
To: Navy Net Listserver <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: RE: USNA-net: Fly the Brigade Flag When Mids are Home 
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 06:39:37 -0800

Keep the Brigade Flags flying....  Here in Washington State the Brigade 
flag flies next to the US Flag.  We purchased a Brigade Flag at the MIDN 
store and it has been flying since I-day 1999.  The flags are mounted on 
the front of the house and fly every day except in bad weather.  The house 
lights keep them lit at night.  We took pictures of the flags flying 
together and our Mid has one on his blotter.  This reminds him of home and 
our pride and support for him at USNA.  It keeps his spirit high knowing 
the Brigade and US Flags are flying in his honor.  One of the little things 
that mean so much to our Mid.

Bruce McFadden
Redmond, WA
Ramin 03/09

-----Original Message-----
From:	The Kerchevals [SMTP:kercheval_hou@msn.com]
Sent:	Sunday, November 14, 1999 6:42 PM
To:	Navy Net Listserver
Subject:	RE: usna-net: Fly the Brigade Flag When Mids are Home

<<We fly the USNA Brigade flag  whenever our mid is here.>>

Well I guess we are just extremist here in Texas. When we came home from
I-day in July of 98 the first thing we did was install a 25 flag pole in 
the
front yard followed by a flood light with a photo cell that turns on at 
dusk
and off at dawn. We fly the Brigade Flag under the US Flag each and
everyday. We don't fly the Brigade Flag is on special days (i.e. Veteran's
Day) when we fly our "Special" 5 ft by 8 ft US flag with gold fringe
(haven't found a Brigade flag that big - yet:-) The only other time the
Brigade or US flag is not up is in bad weather (if we can get them down
before they get rained on) and for a few short weeks around Christmas when
the flag pole becomes the center for the giant Christmas tree we make with
strings of green lights.

Rick & Paula Kercheval
Houston, TX
Jason 02/18
Christy 03/14



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA20435
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:08:07 -0600 (CST)
From: Bruzar@aol.com
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:09:18 EST
Subject: usna-net: 22 mile radius
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi Navy Family:

Several of our friends and family are trying to make reservations to visit 
our plebe, during commissioning week, from California.  Since most of them 
have never been to the East coast or Washington, DC we were considering 
staying there.  Now the question.  Can our plebe stay with us or even go to 
DC during that week or are they still restricted to the 22 miles?

Any answers would be appreciated.  You can e-mail me privately. 

Thank you. 

Also, tomorrow is my plebe's 18th birthday.  It's hard to believe I don't get 
to share that special day with him. 

Proud Mom
Nina Peterson 

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA20713
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:22:21 -0600 (CST)
From: LiliaMayer@aol.com
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:23:18 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: RE: USNA-net: Fly the Brigade Flag When Mids are Home 
To: bmcfadden@isomedia.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Bruce,
 What a lovely way to honor your son and all the mids!  You too deserve to be 
saluted for the courage it takes to send your son so far away from home!  If 
we parents who live within a day's driving distance can ever do anything for 
you, let me know!  By the way, a cousin of mine is opening her home to Mids 
and their parents if they would like to hang-out and relax after the 
Army/Navy game.  She lives in Bryn Mawr, a suburb in Philadelphia's Main 
Line.  
  For Mids whose parents cannot make it, we will gladly drive them to the 
house and back to buses for the late return trip to the Yard. 
  Lilia Mayer
  Richmond, VA
  Justin 03/07

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA23508
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:46:31 -0600 (CST)
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From: "Jo Anne Mitzen" <joanne48@ptd.net>
Subject: usna-net: '01 Parents Weekend 
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 99 19:52:08 PST

Just a friendly reminder that hotels/motels are filling up fast for
08/31/01 -  09/02/01.  If you haven't already made reservations, the sooner
the better. Most years First Class Parents weekend would be the 2nd or 3rd
weekend of Sept.  It will be especially crowded now that it is on Labor Day
weekend.
 
A note to Gerri  & Art Ball -  we talked with Arthur this past weekend!  He
looks wonderful!!!!! He said he is doing well. I gave him a big "mom" hug!  
There were many other Mids that got big "mom" hugs also. Everyone of the
Mids that Joe brought home came over to say hello & thanked us again for
having them for a visit. I am so happy for Joe that he has such wonderful
pals.  You just know these are life long friendships. . .    
   
Go Navy!  Beat Army!

Jo Anne
Nesquehoning, PA

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA23747
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:04:33 -0600 (CST)
From: Andidr1@aol.com
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:05:42 EST
Subject: usna-net: Army-Navy Limits
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi
Does anyone have any idea how far the Mids can go after the Army-Navy game?  
I know that they have to be back at their busses at a specified time, but 
what can they do in between.  Our Mids grandparents live about 25 miles away 
in Wilmington, De and we were wondering if we could go there to celebrate the 
victory.  I would appreciate any info.

Also, does anyone know how long it takes the YP boats to travel from the Yard 
to Philadelphia.  Specifically, how long would it take them to reach the C & 
D Canal.  We were thinking of doing something special for those traveling on 
the YPs, but timing would be important.  
Thanks for all the great answers in advance.
Andrea Darone

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA28866
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:32:44 -0600 (CST)
From: ElkoBlues@aol.com
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:33:58 EST
Subject: usna-net: army/navy tickets
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I guess those of you luckiest enough to get army/navy tickets will be 
receiving them shortly.  If you even think there's the remotest chance that a 
family member will not be able to attend or if you have an extra ticket, 
please save my email address and email me directly.  We have no tickets at 
all.  Thank you!
Meryle Elko, Charlotte, Brett 02/14
GO NAVY/BEAT ARMY!!!!

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA09306
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:15:09 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:20:17 -0500
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: O'Briens

Hi Navy friends,

This past Fri. when we went to O'Briens at 10PM, there was quite a line
outside to get in (wasn't there when we ate dinner there at 7 PM!) plus
a cover charge. While we were eating there earlier, the tables in the
back beside ours were being removed to make way for large speakers and
equipment for a band. Needless to say, we didn't get in but I was
wondering if anyone was able to meet there with Sandy and Mike ?

During last weekend, our son thrust into our hands a copy of the Nov.
5th Trident. There, on the cover, was a large picture of a runner which
turned out to be our son ! Although the printing under the photo was to
promote a race for a worthy cause, the picture was snapped several weeks
ago when he ran the PRT with another ensign and a group of enlisted men
and women. The PRT standards of the Academy are so rigorous and our mids
are so use to these that when the ensigns did the regular PRT they just
took off and a large distance developed from the larger group - so it
appears in the photo that our son is running by himself.
He hadn't read the Trident, but discovered he was in it when he reported
to work at the Sailing Center and found several copies of the photo
taped on the doors. What is so amusing is that he finally made the
Trident (for the second time) only after he graduated.

Go Navy!
Kathy Cully

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA09623
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:33:07 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: More Photos Coming Soon...
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:33:20 -0500
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To all,

Sandi and I went to the Tulane game over the weekend.  I shot three rolls of
film and expect to have the photos on the website within a few days.  I
don't take action shots of the game, although there was plenty of action to
shoot.  Instead, I took the entire three rolls with the intention of showing
all of your that can't get to a game just what you're missing.  Lots of pics
of Mids eating, doing pushups, eating, having a great time, eating and did I
mention... eating.

Sandi and I started the day Saturday at the Central VA Tailgate, banged
together a few poles, helped put up their tent roof and sign and were
treated to Mimosa's and Danish.  Then into the stands for the March On.
I'll leave the game itself to USNA-Sports but suffice it to say, you have to
go to at least a few games.  It's not to be missed.

After the Game, there was the NJ Tailgate outside Gate C feeding "hundreds"
of Mids.  The line was three abreast and went back too far to count.  We
then went back to Central VA for a few minutes and then on to Tenth
Company's Tailgate to visit with a few of Michael's friends.  They were at
once relieved to hear that Michael was back at the hotel resting (took him
back at the end of the first quarter since his "Strep" fever was acting up
again.  He'll lick it yet but it's not going to be as quick as he thought)
and disappointed to not have him there for his LAST home game tailgate as a
Midshipman.  I've never met a greater group of young men and women.

Then on to the '69 Alumni Tent for a few beers and a cigar with friends.  We
left the parking lot after sunset and there were still a few parties still
going strong.  I can remember few days that were so full and enjoyable.

When I get the photos posted I'll be sure to post a notice.  I intend to
narrate them and that takes a little more time than just putting them on a
page.  I also met up with Joyce Hoffer on Friday night and she provided the
pics that she took of the tug-or-war on the previous weekend.  Those will go
up soon as well.  If you can't find your Mid in one of all of these photos,
he/she was hiding pretty well.

Finally, a special thank you to all of you that have posted all those kind
words about what Sandi and I do here in Westlake to keep these Lists going.
You've all been too kind but we really appreciate the sentiment.  We do all
of this because we want to make a difference in your Navy Parenting
experience.

A few of you have lamented that you only wish you had known about this when
your Mid was a Plebe, etc.  Try to remember that we only started this whole
thing a little over a year ago and it was a small shadow of it's present
form during the summer of '98.  There was no website and membership was
between 60 and 70, total.  now, we number over 700.  Some of the credit for
making this thing a huge success goes to each of you for contributing each
and every day to the knowledge base that we now call USNA-Net.  We're all
here to help and be helped.  Just think of how much better we'll be next
Plebe Summer when the Class of '04 begins it all over again on their I-Day.

I've added all of the Calendars to our website, so if you need a date for
something, just click on "Site Index" at www.navy-usna.org and then on "C"
for Calendars.  All of the information that is available is right there at
your fingertips.

Our website is getting rather large and has loads of stuff there.  If you
haven't visited for a while, check it out.  If you have something to add,
let us know.  We're always looking for more links (URLs) to add for
everyone's ready reference.

Thanks again for all the kind words.  It makes it all worthwhile.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA10039
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:50:23 -0600 (CST)
X-Originating-IP: [208.244.44.82]
From: "Teri Sweatman" <miketeri72@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: More Photos Coming Soon...
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:51:41 EST

Dear Mike and Sandi,

We have all enjoyed the benefits of the listserver, and I was wondering, who 
underwrites all of the expenses that must come with it, and if we would like 
to help with those , how could we?



Teri Sweatman
Tom'97 (1st Lt. USMC)
Dan '03 22 (JV Football)
Northport,(Long Island) NY

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA10312
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:01:57 -0600 (CST)
From: Robertmcall@aol.com
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:03:12 EST
Subject: usna-net: Swing Ball
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi all,

Does anyone know anything about a Swing Ball this weekend?  The USNA schedule 
says it is on Friday, and my mid thinks it is Saturday.  He took swing 
lessons last year with a group of his friends at home, and he had a great 
time with it.  We will be in Annapolis on Saturday but since we will get to 
see him for Thanksgiving I would be willing to sacrifice spending time with 
him on Saturday night, if he can do something he enjoys so much!  Is it for 
all mids, including plebes?

It is so exciting to think that I get to see my son this weekend, again at 
Thanksgiving, and then only about three weeks until Christmas!  My husband 
and I loved the suggestion of flying a brigade flag when he comes home for 
Christmas.  Where would we be without this net?

Sandy McAllister
Ryan  03/19
Fallbrook, CA

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA10902
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:42:33 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Helping...
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:42:46 -0500
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Teri Sweatman wrote...
<<< We have all enjoyed the benefits of the listserver, and I was wondering,
who underwrites all of the expenses that must come with it, and if we would
like to help with those, how could we? >>>

Good question.  I'm glad you asked.  It gives me an opportunity to explain a
few of the lesser known details and mostly unpublished stuff about who we
are and how this all works to those of you that are new to all this.

USNA-Net operates through the generosity of WP.ORG, www.west-point.org,
which is a non-profit organization (only loosely affiliated with West Point)
set up by Ditus Bolanos a West Point Grad that was unable to be commissioned
following graduation from West-Point about five years ago due to an
accident.  He lives with his wife and family in Austin Texas and has run
West Points Family and Graduate Listservers since their inception.

Our Listservers and Website are hosted on one of his computers in Austin.
USNA-Net and it's sub-lists are only four of 110 lists that ditus runs from
his home.  The others are all West Point oriented and include separate lists
for each Graduating Class plus loads of family related lists for West Point
Parents and Alumni.  You can find a list of all the other lists, including
Prayer-Net, at www.west-point.org/lists/ .  If you look hard enough, you'll
even find us listed at www.west-point.org/lists/parent.html

The way this is all funded is through a fund raiser which WP.ORG runs twice
a year much the same way that Public Television does.  In a way, we are very
much like PBS.  The service is FREE.  Donations are optional and fund
raising is held to a bare minimum.  Sometime later this year, I will send
out a reminder that the fund raiser is going on as soon as I get
notification.  I only send out about three messages over the three weeks
that it goes on.  Members are free to send in a donation to help defray the
operating costs for equipment, Network connections and software that are
needed to maintain the operation.  Again, there is NO mandated cost to be a
member.  We don't collect dues or even bother you that much when the fund
raisers are underway.

My time and such are on a strictly volunteer basis without compensation and
I wouldn't have it any other way.  It's my way of helping.

So, for the time being, you need do nothing.  When the fund raiser starts,
I'll post a notice and you may get one or two from WP.ORG directly.  Without
this forewarning, it might actually have caused some confusion.  If you feel
so inclined at that time, a donation can be sent by check or directly over
the Internet via credit card.  We don't specify an amount and members have
given anywhere from $5 to ??? in the past.  I am not privy to the amounts
nor to who donates, so there is absolute privacy in that regard.

It takes quite a bit of funding annually to keep 110+ lists running but
WP.ORG has over 15,000 individual members from which to draw donations and
generally makes their preset goals with no trouble and without asking for
large individual donations.  USNA-Net is only a very small part of the
entire undertaking.

WP.ORG has been very generous, affording us all the space and resources that
are required to run our little NAVY part of WP.ORG.  They have gotten quite
large, with a board of trustees, non-profit status from the IRS, etc.
Still, we owe all of what we have to the kindness of a West Point Grad that
is as anxious to help Midshipmen as he is Cadets.

Hope this explains the structure and answers your question.  When the time
comes, there will be more detailed information about how to send in a
donation.  Until then, just keep on keepin' on.
Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA01628
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:00:36 -0600 (CST)
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To: "USNA-Net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
From: "Jo Anne Mitzen" <joanne48@ptd.net>
Subject: usna-net: '01 Parents Weekend
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 99 00:12:32 PST

I was referring to the Class of 2001. Their First Class Parents Weekend
begins 08/31/00.  The game that weekend is with Temple.

Go Navy!

Jo Anne 
Nesquehoning, PA

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA01693
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:03:27 -0600 (CST)
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From: "Jo Anne Mitzen" <joanne48@ptd.net>
Subject: usna-net: First Class Parents Weekend again!!
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 99 00:15:24 PST

Many apologies!!!!  I just re-read my note. Guess I'm still so excited
about the great time we had this past weekend. I truly apologize for the
confusion I caused!  It should have read 08/31/00 - 09/03/00.

Go Navy!
Jo Anne

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA05198
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:28:14 -0600 (CST)
From: dlgunkel@mmm.com
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To: usna-net@navy-usna.org, GREGSTASEY@aol.com, hesolutions@earthlink.net,
        flyindoc01@aol.com, cherie74@aol.com, michaelp@qualityic.com,
        cudewb@itouch.net, Rdragon25@aol.com, apple@gtwn.net,
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Hi-just thought I'd pass along some information that I came across last
night.   From this past Friday's issue of the Trident, there is a full page
ad from Southwest Airlines which promotes a Military Air Fare offering.
This offer of low
air fares is good from Dec. 17, 1999 through Jan 19, 2000 for active duty
military personnel and their dependants.  Those who are interested should
follow up by contacting SWA at 1-800-435-9792 or your travel agent for
details.
They go on to say that "All standard military identification requirements
adn policies apply".  This service is for
flights into/out of BWI, and the sample fares listed are very low.

Regards,
Don Gunkel
Austin, Texas

Bryan 00/17  (D&B)



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	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:30:13 -0600 (CST)
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:31:02 -0600
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Regarding Andrea Darone's query about mids' liberty after the Army-Navy
game, I just wanted to share what we did
last year in this regard.  Our mid put up a special request chit for a long
week end and included a request to stay with
us in our accomodations.  In order to do this he had to include the address
and phone number of the motel where we
were staying.  By the way, we stayed in New Jersey just across the river
and had freeway all the way to the Vet.  We
picked him up at the yard after his last class on Friday, and he spent both
Friday and Saturday nights with us, and we
took in some sight seeing on Sunday before returning to Annapolis.

Regards,
Don Gunkel
Austin, Texas

Bryan 00/17  (D&B)



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA08262
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:40:37 -0600 (CST)
From: "Van Spiros" <BismarkS@worldnet.att.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: events of firstie weekend
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:47:20 -0500
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Hi all,
I would really appreciate any insight as to what happens the Thursday of
Firstie Parents'  weekend.  I have a sense for Friday, Saturday and Sunday
activities but don't remember seeing anything about Thursday.  Class of '01
Firstie Parents' weekend is scheduled for Thursday August 31-Sunday Sept 3,
2000.  Do we really need to get down there on Wednesday night Aug 30?  
Any insight would be greatly appreciated!!
Go Navy!!  Beat Army!!
Carolyn Spiros
Needham, MA


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA08840
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:22:28 -0600 (CST)
From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <19991116154154.EAGI1865@kookla>
Subject: Re: usna-net: events of firstie weekend
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To Carolyn and all '01 parents...

The first thing scheduled event for Firstie Parents' Weekend:

Registration, sometime Thursday afternoon.  (This year it was held on the
balcony of Dahlgren at 1600 hours)

The only reason to arrive Wednesday night would be the opportunity to see
your Mid one additional day (he/she will have to be back to Bancroft by 2200
both Wednesday and Thursday nights) .

The actual "Firstie Parents' stuff begins Friday morning with the chance to
attend classes with your Mid and the Commandant's and Sup's Welcome,
scheduled - this year - at ten)  Then Lunch at King Hall (your firstie must
arrange your tickets), and the Formal Parade that afternoon.  This is all
Friday stuff - nothing Thursday, unless there is some event taking place on
the Yard that is not associated with FPW.

One bit of advice...do not depend on your Mid to know, or keep track of, the
things that might interest you - or that you can do with your Mid this
weekend.  Most will know that there is a FPW, but will not bother to find
out and pass on what events will be scheduled.

If you happen to be a parents' club officer you may be attending the Alumni
Assoc.'s Parents' Club conference which will take place most of the day on
Thursday.  This is generally when they hold this conference, since so many
Firstie parents are Parents' Club presidents.

Remember, Firstie Parents, to mention that you have a firstie when you buy
your tickets to the football game.  Your Mid can sit with you at the game
and the ticket office does not charge you for your Mid's ticket.  One of the
benefits of having a Firstie is that he/she can sit with you at the home
games and his/her ticket is free!!

Hope this helps!

Sandi

(Michael, 10th Company, Class of 2000)
Westlake, OH
www.cyberdrive.net/~poetscorner
www.cisnet.com/~poetscorner
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA09630
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:44:18 -0600 (CST)
From: baileyfg@ix.netcom.com
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:46:03 -0500 (EST)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: HERNDON for CLASS OF 2004

Through all the calendars on the web and phone calls to the Academy I cannot 
find a date for the 
Herndon Climb for '04 that will be the beginning of Commissioning Week for 
the Class of 2001.  
Does anyone know this date?  

After all the accommodation scares about 2001 Firstie Parents Weekend I 
started thinking I would 
put together a packet of information for our friends and family NOW to help 
them plan vacations 
around the time of our son's graduation in May 2001. 

Thanks in advance to anyone who knows this.

Betsy Bailey
Dave '01-12 




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA10098
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:03:33 -0600 (CST)
From: Janet Ferrara <ferrara@ez2.net>
To: "'USNA Net'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: FPW
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:03:17 -0800

To add to Sandi's post:

As Sandi said try to attend some of your Mid's classes. It is a REAL eye 
opener!  Now I understand what our Mid has been saying about how difficult 
some of the science classes really are.  We sat in on one class that could 
have been Greek, but I know the professor was speaking English. The class 
was actually called Weapons. But, is wasn't about guns or cannons.... that 
kind of thing. It was more about physics. We also enjoyed the  humorous 
interaction between the professor and the Mids in the classes.  In King 
Hall (for lunch) we met so many of Michael's friends that he has been 
talking about for 3 1/2 years. We spent a lot of time on his deck with his 
company (you get to see their rooms again on FPW) and attended a company 
picnic, where we met his company officers.

It was the best time we ever had at the USNA, plus we met Mike and Sandi 
Zets, IN PERSON for the first time at O'briens.


Go Navy, Beat Army!
Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, CA
Webmaster for USNA Parents' Club of Southern California
http://www.web2000.com/usnapcsc
Michael, Class of 2000, Co. 15


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA14804
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:25:55 -0600 (CST)
From: "STEVE & LINDA JAKUBOWSKI" <winjak@shore.intercom.net>
To: "USNA-net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: one more ticket
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:26:53 -0500
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Just heard from # 2 son, '95 grad- former D&B commander and current Marine
Corps F-18 jock, that he's going to make it home the weekend of Army-Navy.
Anyway, put me on the list.  If one more ticket comes up available please
give me a call toll free at 1 888 708-3848 or e-mail would be much
appreciated.

steve

PS.  By the way, our other tickets showed up yesterday in the mail.
Definately one for the  collector's albums.


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA16521
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:05:14 -0600 (CST)
From: "Marilyn Szwarc" <mszwarc@fyi.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Navy vs. Army
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I have been playing with eBay lately and just now, out of curiosity, I
checked as to whether there were any tickets for the "Game."  There are, at
greatly inflated prices.  And both sellers are getting them from the other
team!

And as a word of caution -- last year, I ended up with some extra tickets.
I offered them on this net,  at face value plus postage.  All of our tickets
were together -- at the game, I discovered, to my chagrin, that 2 of the
tickets that I sold were resold -- at a profit.

Needless to say, that disappointed me.

Marilyn Szwarc
Landrum, SC  formerly Bradfordwoods, PA

Emily UCCS
Meghan USAFA '00 CS15
Doug USNA '02 2nd Company


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA17207
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:56:00 -0600 (CST)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:57:10 EST
Subject: usna-net: Coast Guard Academy
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I have a friend whose son is interested in the Coast Guard Academy and
would like to talk to a parent with a student there. If someone has that
connection would they please e-mail me privately.
Thanks,
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
LTWT CREW
Houston, TX  >>>

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA17414
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:07:32 -0600 (CST)
From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Photos...
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:07:38 -0500
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Mike and I received a batch of photos last week from Kevin Curry that were
taken on I-Day.  Now, this might seem like "old news" but when we got these
photos, we realized that they had to go on the Photo Gallery page.

We all have varying abilities when it comes to taking pictures.  USNA-Net is
lucky enough to have among its members some very talented photographers.

These photos are so crisp and clean that it seems as though you are right
there, and I HAVE to compliment Kevin on my favorite of the photos that he
submitted to us.  It is a compelling shot of the chairs in T Court - all
lined up and in place - but empty - before anyone had decided to "stake out"
their seats for the ceremony.  What a great photo, at least to my eye!  And
the Bill the Goat is one of the best I have seen.

You will find them on the "Photo Gallery" page of  our website:
www.navy-usna.org
under "More Class of 2003 - I-Day"

Thank you, Kevin, for these terrific photos!

Mike and I still have to get the photos that we took last weekend together
for another page.  Look for this in the next couple of days.  We got some
nice shots, too.

Sandi Zets

(Michael, 10th Company, Class of 2000)
Westlake, OH
www.cyberdrive.net/~poetscorner
www.cisnet.com/~poetscorner
www.neonap.org


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA21270
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:39:38 -0600 (CST)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:44:45 -0500
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: BismarkS@worldnet.att.net
CC: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: events of firstie weekend
References: <19991116154154.EAGI1865@kookla>

Dear Carolyn & friends

There is the availability of early registration on Thurs. late afternoon
and early evening so that you can be up bright and early to go to your
mid's classes on Fri. morn. So, you really have no official events on
thurs. - but visiting Annapolis is always fun. 

If you are a president of your Parents' Club, then there are Thursday
conferences for those officers to attend and an official dinner in the
evening but that's about it. I've been to the Yard for the Parents' Club
conferences for the last three years and are quite familiar with Firstie
Parents' weekend, you will get a schedule in the mail from the Yard as
the time draws near.

Go Navy,
Kathy Cully

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA22396
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:38:21 -0600 (CST)
From: baileyfg@ix.netcom.com
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:40:06 -0500 (EST)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: NAVY ON TV

I got this message from our parent club president and thought some of you 
might be interested:

Navy is getting a lot of national coverage.
Here is a list of dates and times (DC/Metro Area) of some of the programs 
coming up.  For other areas, check your local listings:

Wednesday, 17 Nov.
11 p.m., History Channel, The Great Ships: Frigates

Friday, 19 Nov.
11 p.m., History Channel, The "Fighting I": The Story of the USS Intrepid

Saturday, 20 Nov.
3 a.m./9a.m., History Channel, The "Fighting I": 	The Story of the USS 
Intrepid
6 p.m., History Channel, The Great Ships: Frigates

Sunday, 21 Nov.
7 p.m., Discovery Channel, Carrier: City of Steel - The Construction of USS 
Harry S. Truman

Monday, 22 Nov.
12 p.m./5 p.m., History Channel, Weapons of War: Missile Submarines

Tuesday, 23 Nov.
8 p.m./11 p.m., Discovery Channel, Carrier: City of Steel - The Construction 
of USS Harry S. Truman

Wednesday, 24 Nov.
11 p.m., History Channel, The Great Ships: Cruisers

Thursday, 28 Nov.
4 p.m., Discovery Channel, Carrier: City of Steel - The Construction of USS 
Harry S. Truman

Monday, 29 Nov.
10 p.m., History Channel, Modern Marvels: Engineering Disasters

Saturday, 4 Dec.
8 p.m., Learning Channel, The Secret World of Aircraft Carriers

Have fun viewing! 

Go Navy, Beat Army
Betsy Bailey


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA24761
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:52:25 -0600 (CST)
From: Msimon2739@aol.com
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:53:56 EST
Subject: usna-net: Rooms
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

We had reservations at the Econolodge for 11-19 & 11-20.  Since Mike will be 
laid up from his knee surgery we are not going to use them.  I will be 
calling the hotel tomorrow at 10am to cancel them.  #1-410-224-4317.  If 
anyone needs them--give them a call.

Gabriela
Mike  03  25th

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA28150
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:59:37 -0600 (CST)
From: "Esher Family" <esher@ametro.net>
To: "Cindy Jaskowiak" <CJaskowiak@pkwy.k12.mo.us>, <ferrara@ez2.net>,
        <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <s82dae44.068@pkwy.k12.mo.us>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Dining Hall chairs
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:01:55 -0600
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Hi All,
Just received some interesting information on the chairs. You can obtain
information on ordering the chairs at http://www.kinghallchairs.com.
A certificate of authenticity and brass plate with USNA and dates will come
with chair. CDR Steve Daughety has set this all up and is quite excited
about saving a part of USNA.
A happy holiday to all and may your families all have a blessed time
together...

GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY!

Kathie Esher
Waveland, MS
Leslie 03/10

On the King Hall chairs . . . the St. Louis Parents' Club Newsletter stated
if you are interested in the chairs or would like more info, call CDR Steve
Daughety USN (Ret)





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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA14942
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:03:48 -0600 (CST)
From: Janet Ferrara <ferrara@ez2.net>
To: "'USNA Net'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: USNA Dining Hall Chairs
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:04:28 -0800

Thanks to JoAnn Selmo, Kathie Esher and Cindy Jaskowiak for sending information on the King Hall Dining Chairs!

I have spoken to Steve and have ordered my chair. I have added a link on the following webpage.



Go Navy, Beat Army!
Janet Ferrara, Murrieta, CA
Webmaster for USNA Parents' Club of Southern California
http://www.web2000.com/usnapcsc
Michael, Class of 2000, Co. 15





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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA16842
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 00:01:21 -0600 (CST)
From: twonavymidsmom@webtv.net
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:03:08 -0700 (MST)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Tickets
Content-Disposition: Inline

Hi all,

Have two tickets, need two more [together if possible] for Army/Navy.

Please email me if you can spare two!

Thanks!

GOD BLESS & GO NAVY!
Eileen
Dan '01  '09
Katie '01 '30


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA20816
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:56:06 -0600 (CST)
From: MTBLEAU@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:57:22 EST
Subject: usna-net: Ticket for Mid's girlfriend for A/N
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi : 
My midshipman would like to have his girlfriend come to the game. 
Unfortunately, we could not have planned on this in the Spring when we 
ordered the tickets.
If anyone in the Greater Boston Parent's Club has an unplanned cancellation 
of one ticket , could you let me know ?  
Thank You !
Carol M
Zachary Farrar 25 CO '00

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA13676
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:21:53 -0600 (CST)
From: Msimon2739@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:23:01 EST
Subject: usna-net: Rooms
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

We are going to cancel rooms at the Days Inn on Riva Rd for May 18-19-20. 
(Herndon)  I have two rooms reserved and I had to have three, which I was 
able to locate elsewhere.  I will cancel these rooms Thursday at 4pm or if 
you are interested, call me and I can switch the names on the reservations.
Gabriela A Simon  1-330-497-9912
Days Inn 1-410-266-1555

Gabriela
Mike  03  25th

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA14072
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:41:03 -0600 (CST)
From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: SWO bonuses...
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:40:08 -0500
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To all, but mostly to Firstie Parents...

If you are like me, you have a Mid who is struggling with the service
assignment issue.  My Mid does not have a "calling" - that is - KNOWS (s)he
MUST be a ...(fill in Marine, pilot, etc.)   One of the things that he has
discussed with me is the fact that Submariners are paid much better than SWO
(Surface Warfare Officers)  I found the included article among the list of
Navy related news stories that the Alumni Association sends out via email to
the Parents' Clubs.  Thought it might be food for thought for some of the
Mids who are trying to make this career defining decision:

Sandi Zets
(Michael Stoker, '00, 10th Company)
Westlake, OH

===================================

SURFACE WARFARE OFFICERS FIND PAY SWEET; BONUS CHECKS WERE FAKE, BUT GESTURE
WAS REAL FOR GROUP OF NAVAL OFFICERS

BYLINE: BY JACK DORSEY, STAFF WRITER

DATELINE: NORFOLK


The money was sweet, but the gesture meant more to a number of naval
officers who each pocketed a mock $10,000 bonus check - the first
installment in what could total $50,000 to entice them to stay in the
service another five years as surface warfare officers.

Such officers, known in the Navy as SWOs, are assigned to surface ships,
which includes just about any vessel that isn't a submarine.

Submarine officers with nuclear power training and naval aviators have had
such a bonus for years.

But not the SWOs. Nor have special warfare officers, who also were included
in the bonus, which became effective for both specialties Monday with the
signing of the fiscal year 2000 defense appropriations bill.

About 1,400 officers are expected to take advantage of the bonus during the
next two years. Payment schedules will vary as officers enter the program at
different times.  The amount depends on where an officer is in his career
path.

The annual bonuses are designed to keep junior officers, especially those
who are roughly at seven to 10 years of service, in the Navy longer and to
stem a serious shortfall in officers needed as department heads aboard ships
and in certain billets ashore.

The Navy has never had such a problem before in its surface warfare
community, which was established in the mid-70s. There were lots of division
officers.   But today, fewer than 25 percent of surface warfare officers are
remaining in the Navy long enough to become department heads. The Navy says
it needs at least 38 percent to remain in order to keep tour lengths down
and vital positions filled.

It was not just the low retention numbers that bothered Rear Adm. Michael
Mullen, director of surface warfare for the chief of naval operations, when
he helped push for the bonus. It also was the SWOs' self-image and the SWO
culture a number of the officers seemed troubled with, Mullen said.

Lots of his sailors agreed.

''I always thought that aviators and submariners were getting this bonus and
that we SWOs were looked down upon by the Navy in general,'' said Lt. Cmdr.
Andy Garlington, 33, chief engineer aboard the mine countermeasure ship
Champion, based at Ingleside, Texas.

''Now we're getting the thought process turned around; that the SWO
community is not the dumping ground; that we have an important mission and
we are a vital part of it,'' said Garlington, who will receive a total of
$20,000 in bonus money.

For Lt. John Wade, 31, who took command Friday of the Little Creek-based
coastal patrol ship Firebolt, the bonus didn't make a difference on whether
he remained. The 1990 Naval Academy graduate had always planned a 20-year
career.

''I really love what I am doing. I love the Navy and feel like I am doing
something important and meaningful, not only for the country but also the
ability to make a difference in people's lives,'' he said.

But the bonus does change that culture that Mullens mentioned, he said.

''My entire career, so far, I've always heard the submarines, the aviators,
all the other communities were being paid more, and here we are working
hard, long hours, and even though I felt it was important, I didn't think I
was getting compensated for all the hard work and dedication.

''Now I see the senior leadership putting forth the effort. They have heard
our voice, and I think it's great. We are now on par with everybody else.''

In Norfolk Thursday to address a SWO symposium, Mullen used the occasion to
present the two dozen who were first eligible for the bonus with their
cardboard checks for $10,000.

''They have been asking us to show them the money,'' said Mullen. ''Well, we
just got it in the bank three days ago when the president signed it into
law.''

While acknowledging that officers of his tenure didn't need such a bonus to
keep them in the service, Mullen likened the changing times to those days
when Willie Mays played professional baseball.

''He didn't make a lot of money, compared to what the modern-day ball
players have made,'' Mullen said. ''However, he paved the way, and we have a
lot of people who have paved the way here for this bonus. It is very clearly
needed now. It has been very widely supported, not just by the leadership,
but many retired officers have said this is a big step in the right
direction.

''We call it bonus money, but in many ways it is pay which will equalize the
playing field.''

The Navy already has seen the bonus begin to fill its department head school
at the Naval War College in Newport, R.I., which had remained half-empty
because of low retention rates.

''I was there last week, and they are sitting in the aisles,'' said Vice
Adm. Henry C. Giffin III, commander of the Atlantic Fleet Surface Force.
''It's one of the best success stories you'll ever want.''






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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA19561
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:54:53 -0600 (CST)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:00:09 -0500
From: greg chlan <jgchlan@richmond.net>
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To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: words of caution

Class of '01 Parents: When ordering tickets for next season home
football games, it is true that you may request a seat with yours for
your firstie mid . However, mids are not allowed on the Gold side of the
stadium. The ticket office will send you a ticket for your firstie
mid;but, the academy is now enforcing the rule of not having mids on the
Gold side of the stadium. For 3 yrs. we'd watched mids with families
around us/looked forward to doing the same with our son this yr. We got
the ticket/when mid came to join us,he was told to leave. Apparently,
this rule has been in existence for yrs.;but not enforced until this yr.
Would not want to see any of you folks disappointed next yr.,as we were
this yr.   Firstie weekend is WONDERFUL...so much for you all to look
forward to! joan chlan


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA21814
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:12:58 -0600 (CST)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:18:13 -0500
From: greg chlan <jgchlan@richmond.net>
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To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: muscial notes

To those of you interested in upcoming musical activities involving our
mids (to those not interested-delete this): 1). Macy's Thanksgiving Day
Parade from NYC...approx. 30 mids will be on a float in the
parade/singing back-up to a female artist (sorry not sure
who)/beginnings of the celebration of Navy's 200th Anniversary. The
original song written for this event has already been taped by entire
Glee Club in recording studio in DC. 2.) Messiah-will be presented at
Hood College(MD) this coming wkend...Men and Womens" Glee Club travel
there for the wkend. Messiah will be presented in the Chapel Dec.11th
and 12th (usually sold out both preformances). Annapolis Symphony,Hood
College chorus,as well as guest soloists join with the Glee Clubs for
this. PBS carries the Messiah performance later in Dec. (it was shown in
Richmond VA Christmas Day last yr.). The performance this yr.on PBS will
be last year's taping (in other words, it's shown the following season
of being taped). Perhaps, you would want to contact your local PBS
Channel now, if this is a performance you'd enjoy seeing over the
holidays. 3.) IF the schedule works as it has last 3 yrs., the mids will
be escorted from the Chapel on the 12th after the Messiah performance.
They are bussed to DC in time to do the taping for "Christmas in
Washington". This show has been aired on national network around Dec.
18th. 4.) The Womens Glee Club presents a Christmas Concert also. I
apologize for not having any information on this performance. It is
supposed to be wonderful. Happy Holidays! joan chlan


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA23976
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:27:39 -0600 (CST)
From: ZAG83@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:28:45 EST
Subject: usna-net: Any Hotel rooms available in your block of rooms?
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

If there are any cancelations in any blocks of rooms in or near Philadelphia 
we'd love to be a part of any parent group fun. (Friday, Dec. 3rd) .  Thanks, 
 Peg
P.S. How in the world do people meet their Mid after/ during the game? Any 
suggestions for meeting places?

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA24823
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:34:40 -0600 (CST)
From: MrsCurch@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:35:49 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: Rooms
To: Msimon2739@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi There, yes would love to have one of the rooms.  At the Days Inn for the 
18,19 & 20.  Our name is Lourdes Curcio. Would really appreciate it. thanks,
By the way, my son Robert is having his MRI on the 14 of Dec.  He is pushing 
his surgery hopefully before exams.  But i think they will do the surgery 
after Xmas. break.  Well Take Care and please let me know about the room.  
Hopefully it has two queens size beds.

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA02042
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:32:14 -0600 (CST)
From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:33:26 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: Any Hotel rooms available in your block of rooms?
To: ZAG83@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

check out this source on the internet for hotel rooms in Philadelphia....I 
just checked and there seemed to be quite a few available......     
http://www.turbotrip/blvds-phil.html  thought this might help those with last 
minute plans......
Dindy Liebert

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA15450
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:42:42 -0600 (CST)
From: "Greg Straessle" <straessl@flash.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Navy-Army tix
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:44:42 -0500
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Yet another plea.  My wife just told me that she managed to get two =
tickets, but we need two more for the family.  #1 son is Chris '01,   # =
2 son is interviewing this weekend with congressman's board for an =
appointment to '04.  If you found tickets anywhere and cannot use them =
and do not desire to make an excessive  profit from them, please email =
me at    straessl@flash.net.   =20
Thanks so much for your time in reading this.  GO NAVY!
Greg Straessle  USNA  '73

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA00200
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:34:39 -0600 (CST)
From: "Bruce Vermeychuk" <vermeychuk@rcn.com>
To: "USNA-NET Mail List" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Lights On The Bay
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:39:24 -0500
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As you make your way to Annapolis this holiday season, plan a visit to Sandy
Point State Park (just off 50-301 at the Bay Bridge) to see their "Lights On
The Bay" exhibit.  Some of our Mids helped construct these displays.

BEAT ARMY




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA09928
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:01:44 -0600 (CST)
From: "Sandi (Stoker) Zets" <jsandi@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Commissioning Week Schedule, Tentative...
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:01:53 -0500
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Here it is, for those who are interested.

The "Official, Tentative," Schedule for Commissioning Week for the Class of
2000
(also for Herndon - 2003)

http://www.usna.edu/PAO/comweek00.htm

I know that there have been a lot of questions about this week.  Plebe
Parents, be assured that rooms will open up as Class of 2000 parents find
homes to rent for the week and cancel the hotel rooms that they have- just
in case - reserved.  I have been able to make late reservations in Annapolis
for some portion of this week on three separate years, when I did not know
that I would be going until virtually the last minute.

Another site you might be interested in is the "USNA Schedules" site:

http://www.usna.edu/Schedules/

which has on the same page links to these additional schedules:

 **Schedule of Mitscher Hall movies
    (open to faculty, staff, and their families and guests.)

 **Events Schedule for the General Public

 **Two Week Naval Academy Athletic Association Varsity
    and JV Sports Events

 **Two Week All Sports on the Yard

 **Two Week Club Sports Events

 **Two Week Sailing Team Schedule

Please, take a minute to look at these sites and perhaps bookmark the
Schedules site.  Then you will have an easy reference when you have a
question about when something is, or where it is...

Sandi
(Michael, 10th Company, Class of 2000)
Westlake, OH
www.cyberdrive.net/~poetscorner
www.cisnet.com/~poetscorner
www.neonap.org



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA25568
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:22:04 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Mail Problems...
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:22:08 -0500
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To all...

It appears that I have been off-line since last evening about 2200 EST.  The
Net has continued completely operational but MY personal E-mail has been
waylaid or lost.

If anyone sent me something to mzets@mail.com for the past 20 hours, please
resend it.  I did not receive it and I doubt that it will find its way to
me.

Again, the Listservers were not affected just MY personal email.  Please do
not resend posting to our lists.  They are A-OK.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA07962
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:40:05 -0600 (CST)
From: NavyPub@aol.com
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:41:21 EST
Subject: usna-net: Army/Navy Request
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

My LTJG son just called from Whidbey Island WA.  One of his friends there, a 
female Intel officer, is needing a ticket to the game.  Seems her family is 
all going and she will suddenly be in Philly that weekend, but doesn't have a 
ticket!  If you have one you are willing to sell her, please write her at:

maegen@hotmail.com

Both she, and her family, would be ever so grateful!
GO NAVY!  BEAT ARMY!

Debi Johnston BGO
Charlotte NC
Ian '96 (P-3 Pilot), Garth '98 (Submariner)

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA15393
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:44:44 -0600 (CST)
From: Paul Bille <BillePF@CSN.net>
To: "'Sandi (Stoker) Zets'" <jsandi@mail.com>
Cc: "'USNA-Net'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: RE: usna-net: Commissioning Week Schedule, Tentative...
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 09:46:35 -0700
Organization: @Home

Thanks Sandi,

Add this calendar to your list please.  There are several calendars linked at this site:

http://www.csn.net/~billepf/annapolis/calendar/main.html#00May - 2000 Commissioning Week

http://www.csn.net/~billepf/annapolis/calendar - COPA Calendar.  This link includes the navigation tool bar

Paul Bille		http://ouray.cudenver.edu/~pfbille/author
10349 W Burgundy Ave	(303)979-0197 voice
Littleton, CO 80127-5533	(303)973-4281 fax

COPA		http://www.csn.net/~billepf/annapolis


-----Original Message-----
From:	Sandi (Stoker) Zets [SMTP:jsandi@mail.com]
Sent:	Friday, November 19, 1999 8:02 AM
To:	<USNA-Net>
Subject:	usna-net: Commissioning Week Schedule, Tentative...

Here it is, for those who are interested.

The "Official, Tentative," Schedule for Commissioning Week for the Class of
2000
(also for Herndon - 2003)

http://www.usna.edu/PAO/comweek00.htm



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA20282
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 12:48:57 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: More Photos...
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 13:49:01 -0500
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To all...

Sandi and I know that there are those of you that can't attend a Navy home
game so we shot three rolls of film at the Tulane game last weekend and have
put 43 of them up on the USNA-Net Website.

Now, before you roll your eyes at yet another batch of Football Photos,
that's not what we have here.  Instead, Sandi and I have tried to capture
the "Other" stuff that surrounds the game.  We all know what college
football looks like.  That's why we get cable TV.  Here, instead, are photos
that follow us through the entire day, from Breakfast with the Central
Virginia PC to almost sunset at the 10th Company tailgate.

You can get a glimpse of Navy Captain McDonald outdoing his Army equivalent
who only danced on the sidelines.  McDonald dances to the tune of Macho Man
on the shoulders of the Cheerleaders.

The Flyby was so low you could almost touch them.

We have pics of Mids from all companies at a bunch of tailgates.  (Where's
Waldo?  Is you Mid there?)  The atmosphere was one of relaxation for Mids
that are otherwise preoccupied with studies and the day to day activities of
the Yard.  All of that stops for a home game.  Mids can be seen relaxing and
enjoying themselves with friends and family.

The day had hordes of Boy Scouts and Sea Scouts attending (the game was a
sell out) and there are a few pics of them in uniform.  Future Mids?

I wasn't anticipating the "Go Navy Beat Army" tip of the hat, so I didn't
have the wide angle lens on the camera.  I zoomed out as wide as I could and
caught a big part of it.  It was too kewl to describe and the fans in
attendance roared their approval.  The cheer was thunderous.

Best of all...  These photos are meant to be shared.  Since they are up on a
publicly accessible website, they are there for everyone.  Feel free to pass
on the URL to your Mids and their friends - to your Family and anyone else
that's even remotely interested.

You can find the photos on our website at www.navy-usna.org under "Photo
Gallery" and then "Navy vs Tulane 11/13/99"

The most touching moment happened after the last gun sounded the end of the
game.  The Tulane players formed a circle at mid-field to say a prayer as is
so often the custom at college games.  Without a word or preplanned cue,
every Navy player silently turned, walked to their side and knelt to join
them.  How can I describe the Class, the Reverence and the Sportsmanship
that this single spontaneous act evoked?  Our Mids truly are great!

Enjoy.  If you have questions, let me know.  Perhaps I can add some detail
to the descriptions that appear below each page for those that just have to
know everything about the grandeur of the home game experience.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA20533
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 13:05:28 -0600 (CST)
From: LiliaMayer@aol.com
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:06:46 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: More Photos...
To: mzets@mail.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Dear Mike, 

   What a great guy!! A million thanks to you and Sandi. 
   Lilia Mayer\
   Richmond VA

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA21847
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 15:14:43 -0600 (CST)
From: Twins122@aol.com
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 16:16:03 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: More Photos...
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Mike and Sandi:   WOW !  

I've been fortunate to attend  a half-dozen games -- and, as you say, you 
can't begin to DESCRIBE the atmosphere.  Your pictures are wonderful -- and 
when those who have not yet been to a game yet ... get there -- they will 
certainly remember you and your photos with much fondness and gratitude - as 
the same sights and sounds come into view for the first time for them!

Thank you!  Thank you!  Thank you!     HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you and yours.

        Diane Bohr  

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA27998
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 17:15:52 -0600 (CST)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:03:59 -0800
From: Harry Kessler <kessler4@attglobal.net>
X-Accept-Language: en
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Navy Story


Thought I would share a Navy Story, something that happened last
weekend.  All the talk this week of flags and banners flying for the
Thanksgiving
homecoming prompted me to share.

Last weekend we were unable to attend the Navy-Tulane game.  We were in
Harrisonburg VA at James Madison University.  Our daughter is a junior
at JMU and it was Band Parents Weekend.  Leila is a piccolo player in
the Marching Royal Dukes (450 members strong) and we were enjoying the
tailgate party with other band parents.  We missed having our plebe with

us but Harry and Leila's grandparents were able to come and their
grandfather was the first to see it.

A US flag was flying, on a pole, on the field with all of the cars and
tailgaters.  We were all amazed, trying to figure out what was
supporting the vertical pole, standing about 25 ft. in the air, in
between parked cars.   Grandee (as he is affectionately called) said,
"I bet they're Navy."  I agreed that it was probably a member of the
armed forces, but not necessarily the Navy.  Grandee (BB-64,  WW II,
Battleship Wisconsin) insisted that it was a Navy family.

I walked over to check things out and found that Grandee was right.  Not

only Navy, but a USNA grad from class of '73!  Their son plays trumpet
in the JMU band.

The flagpole is telescoping,  mounted at home in a pvc stand, and can be

taken on trips, and supported by a stand that is held in place by the
tire/weight of your car.  I have the name of the company that sells the
flagpole.  If anyone is interested, please e-mail me privately.

Only THREE more days!  I hope everyone has a wonderful and safe
Thanksgiving.

Lynne Kessler
Roanoke, VA
Harry  IV  03/12

GO NAVY!!!!    BEAT ARMY!!!!     :-)

PS  We found our Waldo....he is in the photo "New Jersey PC feeds too
many to count".  He is the redhead holding the plate in his left hand.
Thanks NJ PC.  He loved the chili and meatball subs!


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA01396
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:54:32 -0600 (CST)
From: "Nancy Patterson" <nancyp@dialnet.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <0.dc7ef244.25686993@aol.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: More Photos...
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:53:21 -0600
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I want to add a funny thought to the pics.  The one where the Brigade is
spelling out Go Navy  Beat Army actually says:      GO  N  EAT
How appropriate for the hungry Mids and tailgate parties!!  GREAT job Mike
and Sandi.    THANKS!!
Nancy
*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*
       Nancy A Patterson    nancyp@dialnet.net
       (417) 743-2327         S.W.  Missouri

       Brad     02/CO 19  Men's Glee Club
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA02966
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 20:31:40 -0600 (CST)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 21:19:48 -0800
From: Harry & Lynne Kessler <kessler4@attglobal.net>
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To: USNA-NET <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Re:Flagpole

George from Pottsville PA,

I've tried to send you the info twice and it keeps getting returned as
undeliverable.  Please e-mail me again with your correct address.
Thanks!

Lynne Kessler
kessler4@attglobal.net

Harry IV  03/12


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA12035
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 21:36:40 -0600 (CST)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 21:36:15 -0600
Subject: usna-net: Army Navy Seating
X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-4
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From: P S Schroeder <pss@juno.com>

I spoke with my Ensign son tonight  and suggested he bring his binoculars
to the game, as I just looked up the location of our seats, and we're way
up there.  He said "Mom, we're not going to be looking down on the blimp,
are we?"  :-)
Penny Schroeder
P.S.  The answer is "Maybe."  

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA20223
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:02:20 -0600 (CST)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 10:04:10 -0500
From: Rick <thedwall@wish-tv.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Thanksgiving Leave
References: <3815DD4E.4F73699E@.uswest.net>

Please note after all the discussion that both the Public Affairs
calendar and the Scheduling Office calendar indicate that Thanksgiving
Leave will expire on Nov 28, 1999 at 8:00 PM.




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA25925
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:23:03 -0600 (CST)
From: "Norton Smiley" <nsmiley@ibm.net>
To: "usna net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Cc: <thedwall@wish-tv.com>
References: <3815DD4E.4F73699E@.uswest.net> <383809E9.5E7110BF@wish-tv.com>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Thanksgiving Leave
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:29:47 -0500
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Folks,
I strongly suggest you listen to what your mid has to say. They will know,
beyond a shadow of a doubt, when they have to be back. It has been drilled
into them.

A bit of advice to wishing parents; do not try to change your mids travel
plans/wishes for their return. If you get them to change, you could get them
in trouble. In case there is any doubt, see the first paragraph/sentence
above.

Norton Smiley
Devin, '00/22
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick <thedwall@wish-tv.com>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: usna-net: Thanksgiving Leave


> Please note after all the discussion that both the Public Affairs
> calendar and the Scheduling Office calendar indicate that Thanksgiving
> Leave will expire on Nov 28, 1999 at 8:00 PM.
>
>
>
>
> *** USNA-NET post by: THEDWALL Craig Steven 03 THEDWALL Rick
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>
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>
>
>


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA26492
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:06:42 -0600 (CST)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:04:59 -0600
Subject: Re: usna-net: Thanksgiving Leave
From: "LeRoy" <eleroy@socket.net>
To: usna net <usna-net@navy-usna.org>


I strongly agree.  Companys may set earlier return times so please check 
with your mid.  Also this little saying was told to me by my oldest.

To be early is to be on time.

To be on time is to be late.

And to be late is unthinkable.


LeRoy Gravseth   98,00,02
Poplar Bluff, MO

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA10635
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:05:16 -0600 (CST)
From: Nancy765@aol.com
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:06:32 EST
Subject: usna-net: Company dinner
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

    I talked to our son this evening and he told us that Tuesday their 
company will have their formal dinner together.  It will be held at the 
Marriott and they will all be wearing their dress mess (or is it mess 
dress?).  I sure wish I could catch a glimpse of that marvelous site.  His 
dad and I teased him, saying that we were going to fly in to see him in his 
dress mess.  
    I wondered if all the companies have a formal dinner and is it on the 
same night and what are some of the other locations?
    It sure will be good to see him once again - finally!!

    Happy Thanksgiving to all of you!!

    Nancy Rogers
    Steve 02/26
    Hamilton, OH

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA11486
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:00:37 -0600 (CST)
X-Sender: jlenhart@kiwi.dep.anl.gov
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:11:38 -0600
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: jlenhart <jlenhart@kiwi.dep.anl.gov>
Subject: usna-net: Army/Navy tickets
X-Info: ENC Mail Server run by Argonne National Laboratory

Hello all,
Our Northern Illinois Parent's Club has booked a trip to Army/Navy.
(GoNavy!)  We were scrambling around to find tickets for everyone and now
find that we have 6 (six) tickets available.  They are together, but on the
Army  side.  Just want face value for them.  If interested, please contact
Kathy Schroeder at marcy@uic.edu
Hope this helps someone & helps us too :-)
Julie Lenhart
'01/8


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA23626
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:01:05 -0600 (CST)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:02:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Oliver <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
X-Sender: joliver@bookworm
To: Nancy765@aol.com
cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Company dinner  REPLY
In-Reply-To: <0.28d4b31d.2569f118@aol.com>


	Be prepared oh ye 'rent's of plebes:  when they arrive home, they
will most likely bring home all their dirty laundry and/or want to
do nothing but hit the rack or go out with their friends.  They do not
hate to be with you, but that's how some of the young men are. Have enough
food for his/her friends as they may congregate at your place.
	Do enjoy their 'visit'.  It ends too soon.
	
	Happy and blessed TG to all.  Peace and hugs....Jo Oliver
							John'97
							Leesburg FL


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA22899
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 04:37:26 -0600 (CST)
From: "Deb Hefner" <hefnet@netassoc.net>
To: "'USNA-NET'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Air Fares $99
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 05:41:42 -0500
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FYI:  I just saw on the MSN homepage that Southwest Airlines is offering $99
airfares (roundtrip) to several locations.  Examples: Baltimore to LA,
Phoenix, Oakland, Sacramento or SanDiego!  You might want to check it out.
Deb Hefner, Kris,'02, 13th Co.


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA27088
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 05:26:01 -0600 (CST)
From: Ljjjj@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 06:27:23 EST
Subject: usna-net: Gospel Choir
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Dear Friends:
We had the pleasure of visiting and listening to the "Gospel Choir" this past 
weekend  here in Kansas City.  They performed exceptionally well, and were so 
sweet to be around during the evening.  If you have the opportunity to hear 
these young people take the opportunity to so, it will bless your heart.
Folks we are so fortunate to be a part of this wonderful Academy Family.
Go Navy, Beat Army!
Lonnie Johnson
Joshua 21st CO. "00"

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA27637
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 06:06:21 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Baycam is back...
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:06:23 -0500
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To all...

The BayCam looking at the Annapolis City Docks is back online as of this
morning.  You can access it by going to our USNA-Net website and clicking on
the icon of the motion picture camera in the upper right of the main page.

Enjoy and many thanks to the became people for getting it up and running.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA27730
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 06:10:53 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: We need your help...
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:10:56 -0500
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To all...

Sandi and I have been wracking our brains trying to figure out how to get
the word about USNA-Net to the other parents that don't know about us or who
haven't taken the time to join USNA-Net.  We've tried lots of things.  We've
gone to events like Herndon to pass out literature.  We've advertised in the
Trident and even sent email to all of the PC Presidents.  Nothing seems to
be really effective.

So...  We are about to enlist your assistance.  For this to work, we will
need you ALL to help.  Here's how...

I've put up a special page on www.navy-usna.org.  It has a Business Card
image on it that will fold in half to perfectly fit into your Mid's wallet
or purse.  Print out the page on your home printer, cut it out, fold it in
half and GIVE IT TO YOUR MID when he/she comes home for the Holiday.

Ask, beg or threaten your Mid into taking it back to the Yard and giving it
to a roommate or other Mid whose parents aren't members.  That way the Mids
can mention it to their parents who might be inclined to at least visit the
site or maybe even join our ranks.

It's a lot of work keeping this site up and running and Sandi and I both
feel it would be so much better if we had a larger percentage of the Parents
as members.  Right now we only have about one in five parents as members.
Wouldn't this be so much better if there were more parents to share all of
this with?

Now's your PERSONAL chance to help other parents share in the benefits of
being a member of USNA-Net.  Print out the page.  Cut it out.  Fold it in
half and make sure your Mid takes it back to give to another Mid.  It's your
chance to repay the lists for all of those things which you have said were
so great about this service.

Go to the main USNA-Net website at www.navy-usna.org and click on the "Click
here to find out how." at the bottom of the main page.  The printable page
will pop right up.  Click on your printer icon and print out the page.
That's all there is to it.  This is YOUR chance to help.

Now, it's up to you.

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA15928
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:44:03 -0600 (CST)
From: PWestover@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:45:24 EST
Subject: usna-net: Re: Air Fares
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

     In response to the $99 Air FAres on Southwest - check out their Web pAge 
- some of the fares are even lower if you purchase on the Internet - $89 each 
way to certain cities!

Pam Westover
Katy '98 (02)

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA16079
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:49:06 -0600 (CST)
From: STereshko@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:50:29 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: Air Fares $99
To: hefnet@netassoc.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Careful here.... the SW page indicates one-way fares based on a round-trip 
purchase.  In any case the fares are quite attractive.


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA16276
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:55:53 -0600 (CST)
From: PWestover@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:57:13 EST
Subject: usna-net: Re: Air Fares
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

      You are right: to clarify - all fares are one way fares and are based 
on a round trip fare, but as stated, thay are still excellent fares.  If you 
purchase through the airline or through you travel agent the round trip will 
be $198+tax and if you go to the Web site it will be $176+tax.  Also, be 
aware that many of the other domestic carriers that service the same cities 
are offerring the same fares.  So if you have frequent flyer miles with 
another airline, you may be able to get the same deal if you would prefer to 
deal with them!

GO NAVY - BEAT ARMY

Pam Westover
Katy '98 (02)

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA18215
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:57:18 -0600 (CST)
From: "nielsen" <nielsen@catalinas.net>
To: "usna net listserver" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Great idea Mike! 
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:57:34 -0800
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I printed out the USNA-NET info card on glossy paper, Pretty spiffy!
       Keep up the good work and super ideas.
       Have a joyous Thanksgiving!
           Go Navy, beat Army!
             Lee and Carol Nielsen
                David (very soon to be Home!!) 03/14


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA01868
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:48:54 -0600 (CST)
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:56:46 -0600
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
From: jlenhart <jlenhart@kiwi.dep.anl.gov>
Subject: usna-net: previous Army/Navy ticket
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Sorry all, 
the 6 tickets that we had are gone :-(
just wanted to let you know.
Julie Lenhart
Illinois
'01/8


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA02074
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:03:29 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:01:42 -0500
From: Jan Jason <bludevil@warwick.net>
To: usna-net <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: USNA-NET cards

Hi,

The business cards are a great idea.  How about passing them out at
athletic and other USNA events to parents who don't yet belong ?  I
intend to take a bunch with me to the A-N Game on December 4.  By the
way, are we wearing our red, white and blue ribbons there ?

Best regards,

Jan Jason
Warwick, NY

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA04143
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:53:31 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:59:26 -0500
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: veteran's stadium seating 

dear friends,

I'm trying to locate the website for Veteran's Stadium so that I can
check where our seats are located. I haven't been able to locate it yet
Does anyone know what the www. address ?

Thank you!
Go Navy - Beat Army
Kathy Cully

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA04695
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:23:31 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:25:39 -0500
From: J Diefenderfer <jdiefen@delanet.com>
X-Accept-Language: en
To: cullfam@warwick.net
CC: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: veteran's stadium seating
References: <3839D8DE.40C3@warwick.net>

Kathy,
For just the stadium try:
http://www.mediacity.com/~csuppes/NFL/PhiladelphiaEagles/seats.htm

Does anyone know if you are allowed to take food into the stadium?

Julie Diefenderfer
James 03/3


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA04924
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:32:09 -0600 (CST)
From: LiliaMayer@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:32:40 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: We need your help...
To: mzets@mail.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Dear Mike and Sandi-
   I hope to get a printer any day now, and when I do, I will do exactly as 
you asked. Another idea to add to yours, why not do the same at the Army/Navy 
game?  By the way, I "market" your sight to everyone who will listen like a 
charismatic preacher.  But be patient.  As someone who markets 
professionally, it takes time for the word to get around.  
  People are building wonderful relationships from the opportunities that you 
make available through this net.  More and more members will come your way! 
It just takes time. Also, it's really good of you to ask us to pitch in and 
help you with this.  Word of mouth is terribly effective.
   Want you to know that thanks to you both, two Mids will be with me for 
Thanksgiving and I'm hopping up and down with excitement!  
   Lilia Mayer
    Richmond, VA
    Jusitn 03/07

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA04992
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:34:51 -0600 (CST)
From: PortCD@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:36:13 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: Company dinner
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Nancy,

When my son('01) was a plebe and member of Company 3, there were two formal 
company dinners.  I know that one (in the spring) was held at the Marriott 
because I had the pleasure of being his guest.  The food was wonderful and 
the midshipmen went out of their way to make me feel welcome.  I was 
surprised at the number who came up to introduce themselves and chat.  What a 
great way to develop the social skills they will need as officers.  Members 
of their sponsoring class (I don't remember what year) were also there and 
told some lively stories about their naval experiences.  There was a guest 
speaker--a former Navy seal, a skit presented by the company, and toasts to 
the various branches of the military.  I found the toasts to be quite 
entertaining.  For the plebes and others who preferred nonalcoholic 
beverages, there was cranberry juice instead of wine for the toasts.  I truly 
felt special that evening being in the company of so many attractive young 
men and women.  Should you ever get a chance to be invited to a company 
dinner, I highly recommend going.  My son was shotgunned after his plebe year 
to Company 01 and as of yet they have not had a "dining out" as Jacob calls 
it. So in answer to your question about whether all companys have a formal 
dining out, the answer would appear to be no.

GO NAVY, BEAT Army!!!!
Cathy Portaro, Durham, NC
Jacob 01/01

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA05244
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:45:51 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:51:46 -0500
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: J Diefenderfer <jdiefen@delanet.com>
CC: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: veteran's stadium seating
References: <3839D8DE.40C3@warwick.net> <3839DF03.DD14E0CD@delanet.com>

dear Julie & friends,

Thank you again - During the past four years, I have carried some food
items in my large canvass '99 bag underneath my blanket. I can't recall
anyone checking, especially at 9AM. The food vendors aren't even set up
then - I remember last year, they didn't even have coffee at all
throughout the day! Just hot chocolate which was a pretty weak
prepackaged powder mix!

Good luck
Kathy C.

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA07259
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:56:31 -0600 (CST)
X-Originating-IP: [171.213.79.135]
From: "Catherine Parker" <clpbaskets@hotmail.com>
To: jdiefen@delanet.com, cullfam@warwick.net
Cc: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: veteran's stadium seating
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:57:52 PST

Julie,

Thanks for the stadium site.  I found our seats, our heads will be in the 
clouds.  We'll get a good shot of the fly-over.  Do you know which side is 
the Navy side.  I enter Gate E and sit in section 740.  Is this Army or Navy 
side?

Catherine Parker
Alexandria, VA

Nick  03/11


>From: J Diefenderfer <jdiefen@delanet.com>
>To: cullfam@warwick.net
>CC: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
>Subject: Re: usna-net: veteran's stadium seating
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:25:39 -0500
>
>Kathy,
>For just the stadium try:
>http://www.mediacity.com/~csuppes/NFL/PhiladelphiaEagles/seats.htm
>
>Does anyone know if you are allowed to take food into the stadium?
>
>Julie Diefenderfer
>James 03/3
>
>
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>
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>Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org
>
>

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA08286
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:44:20 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:46:11 -0500
From: Rick <thedwall@wish-tv.com>
To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: veteran's stadium seating
References: <3839D8DE.40C3@warwick.net> <3839DF03.DD14E0CD@delanet.com>

Does anybody know which side of Veteran's Stadium is the Navy side?


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA10449
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:06:50 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:06:08 -0500
From: "Robert L. Loser" <rloser@commerce-insurance.com>
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To: USNA-NET <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Veteran's Stadium - Food
References: <3839D8DE.40C3@warwick.net> <3839DF03.DD14E0CD@delanet.com>

> >Does anyone know if you are allowed to take food into the stadium?<

Food is permitted at Eagles and Phillies games, so I would guess that the same rules will apply to
the NAVY-army game.  Stadium security will usually check bags and packages before you get to the
ticket gate to make sure that there are NO bottles or cans being taken into the stadium!!

For those from out of town get yourself a good Italian Hoagie to take to the game.

GO NAVY!!!   BEAT ARMY!!!

Bob Loser
Cedar Brook, NJ

Eric 03/6
Heavyweight Crew

>

>
>


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA14398
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:44:02 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:45:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Oliver <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
X-Sender: joliver@bookworm
To: "Robert L. Loser" <rloser@commerce-insurance.com>
cc: USNA-NET <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Veteran's Stadium - Food
In-Reply-To: <3839F690.C6F59781@commerce-insurance.com>

	At all the games I attended, I brought 6 dozen (Brooklyn) bagels
and drink and also a load of turkey sandwiches.  They never once checked
my bags, but asked what was in my bag.  They were OK with my telling them
it was juice, which it was.  I think they are mainly concerned about any
liquor being brought in. The mids also like hot wings.  To be honest with
you, they will inhale any type of food you bring them.
	Have a fabulous time.  For those sitting in nosebleed heavren, if
it rains you will be dryer than those in the lower seats and...the wind is
not so bad up there.
	Go NAVY beat Army

				peace and hugs...Jo Oliver
						 John '97
	 					 Leesburg FL


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA18115
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:15:37 -0600 (CST)
From: BJSBURNS@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:16:49 EST
Subject: Re:  Re: usna-net: veteran's stadium seating
CC: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi All,

    Does anyone know if the Mids and Cadets switch sides each year.  Last 
year the Mids were on the right side if looking from gate C seats.  It 
appears from the tickets that the Mids will be seated to the left where the 
Cadets were last year.  Does anyone have seats in the Gate C area?  Everyone 
I know is in the gate D and E area which I thought was the Army side last 
year.  Thanks, Joyce Burns

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21562
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:32:24 -0600 (CST)
From: Missatty@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:33:45 EST
Subject: usna-net: Exchange Program
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I was asked earlier to comment on my son's semester at another academy.  It 
has been a wonderful experience for him.  He's missed his friends, but was 
flown to the Air Force-Navy game in Annapolis and also got to make another 
quick trip back.  As far as I can tell, this has been the only negative (and 
I think negative is too strong a word) aspect of the semester.  He's gotten 
his wings for freefall and glider (I've gotten lots more gray hair--when he 
went to Naval Academy, I didn't sign on for that!) and loves both.  All 
people at the Air Force have been wonderful to him.  He's had a sponsor 
family.  Went to the Supt's reception the other night for the exchange 
students.  The Navy officers there have been great to the mids.  He's been 
able to take an independent study course since it wasn't being offered this 
semester and a professor was willing to do this.  I've been on a parent net 
similar to ours and have been able to experience AFA life somewhat.  He's 
thoroughly enjoyed that part of the country and has gone camping, rock 
climbing, etc.  Is going to Breckinridge skiiing over Thanksgiving with two 
high school friends.  I encourage any mid who is even thinking about the 
exchange program to apply for it.  I believe it is open for 3/c this spring 
semester.  It took a while to get his schedule to "fit", but no more than a 
transfer from one civilian school to another.  Also, all professors at Navy 
will get him "up to speed" if he needs it for a continuation course from 
first semester to second semester.  If anyone has any questions, I'll be glad 
to try to answer them or forward them on to John.  Hope everyone has a 
wonderful and safe Thanksgiving.

Terre Vardaman

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21771
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:44:20 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:43:41 -0500
From: "Robert L. Loser" <rloser@commerce-insurance.com>
X-Accept-Language: en
To: USNA-NET <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Veteran's Stadium - Food
References: <Pine.SOL.3.95.991122213957.4719A-100000@bookworm>

> >They never once checked my bags, but asked what was in my bag.  I Think
> they are mainly concerned about any liquor being brought in.<

> >For those sitting in nosebleed heaven, if it rains you will be dryer than
> those in the lower seats and...the wind is not so bad up there.<
>

I have season tickets to the Eagles (No Jeering Please - Sympathy Cards Will
Be Accepted) and Phillies games, so I can only relate my experiences with
respect to attending Eagles and Phillies games.  I can't imagine the rules
being different for the Army - Navy game......but then anything is possible.

Security usually checks all bags that are being carried into the Vet.  In
addition to alcohol, they do not permit cans or bottles to be taken into the
stadium.  Normally they don't allow any kind of container to be brought into
the stadium, but I have seen thermos bottles at football games.  Taking food
into the stadium, to my knowledge, has never been a problem.

If you have seats in the 500, 600 or 700 levels you're way up
there.....however you will still have a good view of the game and can see the
plays develop.  These are decent seats and you shouldn't be disappointed.  I
have friends that prefer to sit in the upper level. You'll have fun no matter
where you sit. You will be out in the open, so dress warm if it's going to be
cold.  If we have one of those unusually warm days, like we had this past
weekend (70 degrees), wear summer type clothes, but make sure you take a
jacket in case you end up in the shady section of the stadium.  If the weather
is predicted to be cold......DRESS WARM!  You will be totally exposed to the
weather in the upper levels!!!

If you are really lucky, you will have seats in the 300 level.  "Most" of the
seats in the 300 level are under the overhang from the upper (500, 600 & 700)
level, so you are out of the weather, unless you are in the first 5 -10 rows
of the 300 level, and then you're sitting out in the open.  If you are under
the overhang, it can get cold underneath because you are in the shade and the
concrete gets really cold.  The benefit of sitting under the overhang is if it
rains for the game.....you'll stay dry while everyone else gets soaked.  If
it's hot you're in the shade.

The 200 level seats are better if they are in the upper 200 level.  The seats
in the lower 200 level are close to the field, but the view can be blocked by
the players, bench and all of the other activity on the field, depending where
you're seats are located in relation to the benches on the field.  Most of the
200 level seats are good seats with a good view.

Bagels are for Jets and Mets games......when you go to Phillie, get yourself
an Italian Hoagie!!!

Bob Loser
Eric 03/6
Heavyweight Crew


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA24728
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:53:18 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:59:17 -0500
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: BJSBURNS@aol.com
CC: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: veteran's stadium seating
References: <0.85478744.256b6121@aol.com>

Hi all,

Yes, the sides are switched each year so that ever other year, you get a
chance to bask in the sun or freeze in the windy shade. I believe Navy
has the shade this year. 

I am sitting in the West Point faculty seating area, (had to have my
friend buy my tickets with his so we could go!) and I'm in Sec. 518 -
gate B. I hope this helps with where the Navy section will be.

For those who have never gone - attending this game is unlike any other
experience; the electricity from the spectators, mids and cadets is
intense! It is a total experience! One year, we stood from 8:30 Am until
3:30PM in a heavy downpour and never felt wet!! The steam from the
bodies of those in the  Brigade and the Corps rose in giant rhythmic 
waves as they hopped up and down while cheering on the teams. What an
emotional roller coaster - we are getting so pysched hoping that Navy
will win BIG this year!

Go Navy- Beat Army!
Kathy

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA25000
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:00:07 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:06:07 -0500
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Italian Hoagie

Dear Bob & other Phillie experts, 

Where does one get an Italian hoagie in Phillie, near the Stadium at
8:30 Am on Dec. 4th ?


go Navy- Beat Army!
Kathy Cully

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA25101
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:03:09 -0600 (CST)
From: MarkMLakes@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:04:32 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: veteran's stadium seating 
To: cullfam@warwick.net, usna-net@navy-usna.org

We live in the Philadelphia region and our phone has a diagram of the Vet w/ 
section numbers etc. If you e-mail me your section, I can give you a rough 
idea of where your seats are.

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA14683
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 06:23:36 -0600 (CST)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:28:55 +0000
From: joann <jinfante@voicenet.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: politicians

Has anyone heard if the President or vice is coming to the game?  If
they are ,
the earlier you get to the stadium the better because of security and
traffic patterns.
GO NAVY-BE ARMY!!!
joann davidson--'99 mom


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA18857
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 07:27:08 -0600 (CST)
From: "JoAnn Selmo" <panyack@execpc.com>
To: "'USNA Net'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: note
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 07:45:50 -0600
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Yesterday I received a Nordstrom catalogue containing a picture of two =
male mids dressed in whites with a blonde model in New York.  This =
picture was apparently taken in New York last summer during the YP boat =
cruises.  I can't read the name badges...one appears to have the =
initials B  S  .  If your son mentioned having a picture taken in New =
York and you have not received a copy of that picture, let me know and I =
will send it to you.  It is a terrific shot.
 Have a wonderful time with your sons and daughters over Thanksgiving.  =
I know I am counting the hours until David is home.
JoAnnSelmo
David 02 (20)

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA03897
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:24:29 -0600 (CST)
X-Originating-IP: [12.73.224.217]
From: "Agnes Zarcaro" <agzarcaro@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Ride to NJ Shore
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:25:57 PST

Help!

Our mid's plan for Thanksgiving in Vermont fell through and is left with 
Thanksgiving with her aunt in NJ.  Does the NJ Parents' Club really have a 
bus?  Can she hook up with it?  She needs a ride to the Jersey Shore.  email 
us directly with any suggestions at jzarcaro@pendragonstaffing.com or 
agzarcaro@hotmail.com or call 800-896-0699 Wednesday morning.  Thanks.

Joe & Agnes Zarcaro
Laura, '02-28

______________________________________________________
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA04389
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:53:57 -0600 (CST)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:58:04 -0600
From: dev mahadevan <dmahad@hal-pc.org>
X-Accept-Language: en
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Requesting ride

Our daughter Pritha is not coming home for Thanksgiving but has
invitation to join our friends in DC.  If anyone is traveling  from
Annapolis to DC, Thursday noon or evening and can give her a ride,
kindly E mail  me privately. Our friends can pick her up from any
location in DC.
Thank you.

Wishing everyone a Happy and SAFE Thanksgiving !

Dev  & Lakshmi Mahadevan
Pritha '02- 24






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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA12904
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:35:35 -0600 (CST)
From: JOESEBAGO@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:37:00 EST
Subject: usna-net: Special Thanks
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org


Holiday Greetings To All,

It goes without saying that each and everyone one of us has much to be 
thankful for this time of year. We believe an added, special thanks is in 
order and afforded to all the coordinators from the national level, down to 
state level and the individual club level regarding the planning and 
preparation of next weeks major activity in Philly! I can only imagine the 
long hours and probably yearlong effort it took to get this, not only 
happening, but being successful in all your efforts. Our hats go off to all 
involved. A special thanks goes without saying to all the little one's who 
helped Mom and Dad stuff all those envelopes and lick all those stamps! Thank 
you all. We cannot wait to be participants at this special occasion. 

Thank-You So Much,
The Fraser Family 

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA13538
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:20:05 -0600 (CST)
From: "JoAnn Selmo" <panyack@execpc.com>
To: "'USNA Net'" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: nordstrom cat.
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:39:09 -0600
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To anyone interested:  Through the listserve I was able to contact the
parent of the mid with the BS initials.  This parent is not on the
listserve, but a friend is.  She was amazed that I found her and is now
going to join this great communication group.
That  mid's parent sent me the instructions for viewing the picture via
Nordstrom's web page.  For anyone who is interested, they are as follows:
                       www.nordstrom.com
     then to:          Women   (at the top of the page)
     then to:          party time/dresses
     then to:          Mandarin style dress  (several pgs. of dresses so
you may have to hunt)
Only hours until we see our mids!!!
JoAnn Selmo


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA17210
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:04:04 -0600 (CST)
From: TMiller091@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:05:30 EST
Subject: usna-net: Philly accomodations ?
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Parents:

Through a change of plan, some incredible good fortune and great USNA 
parents, I will be attending the A-N game with my Plebe. Can anybody out 
there point me in the right directions for accomodations in Philly ? Much 
appreciated.

Tom Miller
Matt, '03/28

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA18249
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:10:02 -0600 (CST)
From: Paul Bille <BillePF@CSN.net>
To: "'JoAnn Selmo'" <panyack@execpc.com>,
        "'USNA Net'"
	 <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: RE: usna-net: nordstrom cat.
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:11:58 -0700
Organization: @Home

JoAnn,

This URL should take you directly to the picture of mids on a New York 
tour:
http://www2.nordstrom.com/shop/Product/product.asp?checkBasket=no&styleI  
D=2763292&category=2373546~2373570~2373308

These guys are real show stoppers in their whites.  I was with a group of 
mids on the mall in DC one day, near the Vietnam Memorial.  One tourist 
stopped the mids to ask questions about Annapolis, then another and 
another.  Soon there was a small crowd gathering.  The mids in their whites 
stood out in the crowd.  Young children were shouting questions.  "Hey 
Mister, do you fly jet airplanes?"  Mom's and dad's were asking "How do you 
apply to the US Naval Academy?"  "Is it a challenging program?"  The mids 
stood proud and responded to questions with confidence and candor.  They 
were perfectly comfortable shouting out answers to this gathering crowd.

I was thinking "Hmmh!  We have dinner reservations in Georgetown in an 
hour.  I wonder if we'll make it."  I finally had to step into the crowd 
and drag the mids off before the crowd carried them off.

Here are more pictures from the New York tour, Summer 1998 by DPBille:
http://www.csn.net/~billepf/annapolis/yp2001.html - New York

Paul
COPA		http://www.csn.net/~billepf/annapolis

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From:	JoAnn Selmo [SMTP:panyack@execpc.com]
Sent:	Wednesday, November 24, 1999 10:39 AM
To:	'USNA Net'
Subject:	usna-net: nordstrom cat.

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA26523
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:45:12 -0600 (CST)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:51:08 -0500
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Philly accomodations

Dear Friends,

I also need accomodation help in Philly, at the last moment! - need a
room for Dec.4th. Since our son is still being delayed for flight school
because of his surgery, he will be now be able to come for the game and
spend time with us. A silver lining we hadn't planned on. Any paernets'
clubs have extra rooms?  Thank you for any help!!

Go Navy!

Kathy Cully

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA29029
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:11:35 -0600 (CST)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:13:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Oliver <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
X-Sender: joliver@bookworm
To: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
cc: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Philly accomodations  REPLY
In-Reply-To: <383C5DCC.60D9@warwick.net>



	Everyone...have a safe and happy tg.....I get to see my lieutenant
tomorrow.

	BEAT ARMY
				peace and hugs...Jo Oliver
						 John '97


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA02514
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:39:37 -0600 (CST)
From: RAmes50695@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:41:03 EST
Subject: usna-net: Happy Thanksgiving!!!
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

To All,

We want to wish all of you a blessed and joyous Thanksgiving Holiday.  Our 
mid is not coming home, but I am so incredibly grateful and happy for her 
that she will be able to unwind and enjoy herself for the next four days.  We 
pray that those of you with mids at home will find joy in every moment and 
those who will miss their mids will be cheered by thoughts of their Christmas 
homecoming in less than one month.  I know there are those who will not see 
your mids even at Christmas.  My heart aches for each of you, and I pray that 
the long absence makes the time when you are finally reunited even sweeter.   
 
We celebrate this Thanksgiving with joy and gratitude for the children we 
have been blessed with........for those who have chosen to GO NAVY and for 
those who have chosen other paths.  I am grateful to have been introduced to 
so many incredible parents through this list.  Thanks to each of you for 
sharing your joy, your pain, your experience, and your wisdom with us.  Thank 
you for sharing your most precious gifts.........your children.  

Dick and Judy Ames 
Erin Borozny 03/17

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA02910
	for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:02:42 -0600 (CST)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:04:04 EST
Subject: usna-net: Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Just a reminder for everyone out there that loves a parade: about 30 members 
of the Men's Glee Club will be performing on a float in the Macy's Parade.  
Go Navy!

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.  Travel safely.

Amy Soule

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA17847
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:15:06 -0600 (CST)
From: DCA01@aol.com
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:16:27 EST
Subject: usna-net: Macy's Parade Question
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

There was a float of a ship, similar in design to Columbus's ships, that had 
what looked like Midshipmen on board.  Does anyone know if this is the case?  
Neither station covering the parade here mentioned who was on the float.

Happy Thanksgiving.

GO NAVY/BEAT ARMY
Nancy Aubel
Erik 00/12

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA18347
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:03:13 -0600 (CST)
From: Andidr1@aol.com
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:04:39 EST
Subject: usna-net: Macy's parade
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi All, Happy Thanksgiving!

Just turned on the TV a few minutes ago and what timing!  The group of 
Midshipmen singing back up were right in front of me.  No mistaking the 
uniforms.  Everyone in our house just sat quietly and watched and then they 
were gone.  You moms and dads of this group must be so proud.  Hope everyone 
is enjoying the holiday and remembering all that there is to be thankful for. 
 

God Bless,

Andrea Darone
Middletown, DE

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA23388
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:57:37 -0600 (CST)
From: twonavymidsmom@webtv.net
X-WebTV-Signature: 1
	ETAuAhUAtAdO6o0nnf0eQwqAYuapR9UD7LgCFQDAZ+pJtzDn/N0Kx7X2mvZp2ykuew== 
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:59:14 -0700 (MST)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Men's Glee Club
Content-Disposition: Inline

Parents of Men's Glee Club, 

Your sons did an outstanding job in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.
It is 11 a.m. here in AZ.  

It brought tears to my eyes to see them and hear them--I know it made me
feel closer to my two mids [who are in Cleveland for the weekend]!!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

GOD BLESS & GO NAVY
& GO UofA BEAT ASU!!!

Eileen Estes
Dan '01
Katie '01

  


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA25357
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:43:34 -0600 (CST)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:48:47 -0500
From: greg chlan <jgchlan@richmond.net>
X-Accept-Language: en
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: fantastic experience

Greetings Navy family members ! Wishing each of you a wonderful day of
Thanksgiving festivities. We were surprised to have the phone ring just
as we'd settled in to watch the Macy's parade on TV. It was Kevin
calling on a cell phone in the midst of the parade. What a wonderful
experience for the members of the Glee Club in NYC! Our son was one who
decided to walk alongside the float-he was having a grand time shaking
hands,mingling with the parade watchers;while giving us a brief
description of where they were in the parade..  It made spotting the
group of mids much easier for us. When the phone rang around 11:30,we
were sruprised to hear Kevin's voice again. The mids had finished their
part of the parade, and were waiting to have the streets of NYC open up
to traffic sometime after noon;so that they could begin the trip back to
Annapolis. Assume all the mids on the trip have prior arrangements to
get home or with sponsor families before day's end. We're anxiously
awaiting our mid's arrival sometime this evening. We will count our
blessings for yet another wonderful experience Kevin has enjoyed with
USNA Glee Club...giving thanks for all we have and thinking of all of
our USNA "families" across the country. Best wishes to all of you and
yours! joan chlan and family


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA13728
	for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:54:45 -0600 (CST)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:01:00 -0500
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: DCA01@aol.com
CC: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Macy's Parade Question
References: <0.4b513c89.256eaccb@aol.com>

Dear Nancy & all, 

I was looking for the mids since one of our members had written a post
last week about them. As I recall, they had recorded the singing part in
a studio in D.C. for today's parade. So, you were right - and the t.v.
station that I listened to, did identify them as mids from Annapolis and
gave further info about an upcoming celebration in the year 2000 in
which they would be involved. Didn't they look great!!!

Go Navy,
Kathy C.

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA02814
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 07:55:36 -0600 (CST)
From: Amysoule@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:57:03 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: Macy's Parade Question
To: DCA01@aol.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org

Nancy, and everyone:
 
This is what it said on the Macy Parade site, at 
www.macyparade.com/bands/naval.html <A 
HREF="http://www.macyparade.com/bands/naval.html">US Naval Academy Men's Glee 
Club</A> 

"United States Naval Academy Men's Glee Club. Representing the Navy with 
pride and distinction, 30 midshipmen from the U.S Naval Academy in Annapolis, 
Maryland will perform the premiere of "Just Beyond the Dream" - the official 
song of Macy's Fourth of July Fireworks 2000."

(They were mentioned by name on the network we taped (NBC I think), but 
nothing more was said about the Academy or the Glee Club.)

We were there, in the drizzle and wind, and loved seeing the Mids go by!  One 
of them noticed the "N" on the cap my husband was wearing and kept pointing 
to it and his own cover alternately, obviously pleased; in truth, my husband, 
my daughter and I all had on at least one piece of "Navy" mid-store clothing 
in our layers.  We managed to get our son's attention for a wave, and we all 
got home in time to eat Turkey.

Amy Soule

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA22738
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:03:12 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Cc: <Midsdaddy@aol.com>
Subject: usna-net: Two Tickets available...
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:57:12 -0500
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To all...

First, Happy Thanksgiving from your Moderator !

Next,  a member in our Northeast Ohio Parents' Club has Two (2) tickets to
Army/Navy available that they cannot use.  They are together and will go on
a first come basis.

Please contact them (not ME! Please.) by email at midsdaddy@aol.com and
include your name and phone number.

Again, hope all of you are having a great time with ol' Tom Turkey.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA23547
	for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:02:50 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: New Photos...
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:56:04 -0500
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To all ...

Sandi and I have finished putting up the latest photos supplied by Joyce
Hoffer for the Tug of War that was held in Annapolis with the rope crossing
the Severne River on 11/16/99.

To view the pictures, go to our website at www.navy-usna.org and Click on
"Photo Gallery" in the Main Menu on the left of the page.  Then click on
"Tug of War" at the bottom of the list.

Did you know?  The pictures that come up (like all the pics on the pages in
the Photo Gallery) are "Thumbnails" meaning that they are small
representations of the actual pictures.  These Thumbnails load much more
quickly than the full sized pics because they are small in size (about 7Kb)
but show what the "actual" photo looks like.

To see the Full Sized Photo that the Thumbnail represents, click on the
Thumbnail picture on the page and you will pop up the full sized one which
shows lots more detail, faces that you can recognize, etc.  (After looking
at a full sized picture, use your "Back Button" to return to the page of
Thumbnails to look at the next.)

Have fun and why not share them with your Mid while he/she is home for the
Holiday?  If they didn't participate, perhaps they know those Mids that did.
There are loads of Mids shown with enough detail to pick out most
participants.  You can see the sweat and the strain as they pull toward
Victory.  Guinness Book of World's Records was there to record the event.
It may qualify as the "longest" Tug of War in history!

A special thanks to our resident Annapolis Photographer and Sponsor Mom,
Joyce Hoffer, for sharing the pictures with us.  If you want to comment
directly to Joyce you can email her at the address shown at the bottom of
the picture page.

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA08708
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 11:09:25 -0600 (CST)
From: TMiller091@aol.com
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:10:50 EST
Subject: usna-net: Re: usna-plebe: Meeting Mid
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

IF the Mids are allowed to 'mill around' at half time; one idea was to have 
them find you in your seats and figure out a suitable meeting place after the 
game.

Tom Miller

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA18898
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 16:07:44 -0600 (CST)
From: PWestover@aol.com
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:07:53 EST
Subject: usna-net: Re: Meeting Mid
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

We attended all four Army/Navy games while our daughter was at the Academy 
and we always gave her our seat and section number.  The Mids found us at 
half time and occasionally before the game.  Brings lots of food for 
them.....they come seeking sustenance!

GO NAVY!!! BEAT ARMY!!!

Pam Westover
Katy '98 (02)

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA04956
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:03:39 -0600 (CST)
From: "Linda Hobert" <hobert@prodigy.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Parade Magazine
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:02:48 -0500
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Hi All!
We received an early edition of the Sunday day paper and were pleased to see
a very nice article on one of the Mids, class of 00 featured in the "In Step
With James Brady" column. If the magazine comes with your local Sunday
paper, be sure to look up the article.

Go Navy!
Linda Hobert, NJ
Christopher 03/23



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA28847
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:25:03 -0600 (CST)
From: DCA01@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:26:34 EST
Subject: usna-net: Army/Navy Tickets
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I was just contacted by a family in our area that has 1 extra Army/Navy 
ticket.  I know it is late, but there is still time to get tickets someplace 
using overnight mail or registered mail.  If you are interested please call 
Yvonne or Brad Thomas at 513-245-9893.

GO NAVY/BEAT ARMY

Nancy Aubel
Erik 00/12
Dayton, Ohio

 

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA00341
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:57:57 -0600 (CST)
From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:59:24 EST
Subject: usna-net: It's getting late for tickets but.....
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I still have one family in our organization (Southeastern PA Parents 
Association) who still needs tickets (2 is all we ask).....so IF you have any 
extra tickets available please let me know......I am determined that ALL of 
our families here in Philadelphia get to go!!!
Dindy Liebert
Peter 00/25

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA10503
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:04:32 -0600 (CST)
From: LIEBERTCO@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:06:02 EST
Subject: usna-net: We're all going!!!
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Thanks to those of you who replied to me about tickets... I was able to 
connect the haves with the have nots!!!
and I'm hoping that no one else comes out of the woodwork.... It's just 
another example of how well this Net works and how nice it is to have those 
who understand near by..............thanks again
Dindy Liebert
00/25

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA10724
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:14:54 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: One Ticket available.
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:14:47 -0500
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To all...

Another member of the Northeast Ohio PC has a single ticket available for
A/N.  Face value is asked.  Contact Joe Dietz at dietzjoe@ameritech.net with
your name and phone number.

Mike Zets
Moderator.


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA10837
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:18:55 -0600 (CST)
From: pss@juno.com
To: tvandy@mindspring.com, usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:17:59 -0500
Subject: usna-net: Re: A/N tickets
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Stand by for a ram---I will tell interested parties to e-mail you.
Penny
**********************************
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:17:34 -0500 "THOMAS J. VANDERHORST" <

tvandy@mindspring.com

> writes:
> Penny, 
> 
> I just got back from being a week on the road.  We still have the 
> two
> tickets for the GAME Saturday.  
> 
> You mentioned the parents network.  Is that the best way to sell 
> them at
> this point?  If so, how do I get them on the market?  
> 
> Look forward to seeing you Saturday.  Thanks. 
> 
> Tom Vanderhorst

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA14652
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:38:08 -0600 (CST)
From: NavyPub@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:39:35 EST
Subject: usna-net: FIVE tickets available
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

We have had a change in plans and will not be able to use our tickets this 
weekend.  I have FIVE tickets available (at face value) with the North 
Carolina Parents Club.
Please email me directly if you know of anyone who would want these.
Y'all have fun at the game!
GO NAVY!  BEAT ARMY!

Debi Johnston BGO
Charlotte NC
Ian '96 (P-3 Pilot), Garth '98 (Submariner), Alec '04 hopeful

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA14735
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:39:53 -0600 (CST)
From: NavyPub@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:41:21 EST
Subject: usna-net: FIVE tickets available
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Phone Number, if you want to call me directly, since we are getting close.
704-542-6244

Debi Johnston BGO
Charlotte NC
Ian '96 (P-3 Pilot), Garth '98 (Submariner)

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA17867
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:59:02 -0600 (CST)
From: LoveTango@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:00:32 EST
Subject: usna-net: T-giving with our Plebe & Tailgate at A/N!
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello to all!

Well, we had a wonderful time with our daughter and although she did go out 
last night to be with old friends she seemed so content to spend most of her 
time with us.  Boy did we love it and  it was so nice to do all the things 
that she wanted to - as a whole family!.  I guarantee you, if it hadn't been 
Meghan's desire to go to the mall the day after Thanksgiving, I never 
would've been able to get my husband within 10 miles of there!  
But the thing that I was truly so thankful for was that she was with us and 
my family felt whole again.  I know that as time goes on those opportunities 
will get farther and farther apart.  Which of course makes them so special 
now.  She's e-mailed us that she's safely back on the Yard and has lots of 
work to do.  I guess there's some kind of Commandant's briefing tonight.  She 
thought it might have to do with Army/Navy week.  The fact that it's the 
100th anniversary means there may be lots of press around and they probably 
want to keep the "pranks" to things that won't embarass either school.

So, Army/Navy Week - that brings me to my second topic - My husband, son and 
I are coming down late Friday night for "The Big Game" on Saturday.  My 
sister lives in Plymouth Meeting and we will be staying with her.  So, what 
I'm trying to find out from either parents who've been to these BIG games 
before or maybe even the PA Parents Assoc. - Is there an organized tailgate 
party for this Big Game?   Our tickets indicate that the March On is at 9:30, 
but the game doesn't start till noon.  So, are there all kinds of things 
happening on the field after the March On and everybody stays in their seats? 
 Or do people go back to their cars after the March On for morning partying 
before the game?  Is there an organized tailgate after the game?  Is it 
usually too cold?  We are planning on taking Meg and her roommate back with 
us to my sister's for a nice dinner at a restaurant and relaxation at her 
house.  They've both signed up to take the late bus back to the Yard.  Having 
never done the Army/Navy game before, I was just trying to get a flavor for 
what to expect.   So, any info would be very much appreciated.  We're 
planning on wearing our Hudson Valley Parents Association nametags with our 
red/white & blue ribbons.  Well be looking for yours too.   GO NAVY!!  You 
will BEAT ARMY!!

Suzan Poukish, Schenectady, NY
Meghan  '03/20

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA18221
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:20:12 -0600 (CST)
X-Originating-IP: [163.179.204.54]
From: "Anne&Dennis Kolb" <civies03@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Cc: usna-sports@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Army/Navy Tix
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:21:45 EST

To All,
My daughter is going to miss Army/Navy game because of dance committments, 
so is her guest.  Bad News!

Good News!  We have two extra tickets to be sold at purchase value 
($40.00/).  Contact us directly if interested.
Go Navy!  Beat Army!
Anne & Dennis Kolb
Long Island, NY
Matt 03  7th Co.


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA21797
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:52:33 -0600 (CST)
From: NavyPub@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:54:04 EST
Subject: usna-net: My Five Army/Navy Tickets Gone
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

My phone has been ringing with calls from all over the country.  Save your 
phone bill!  I have sold them to a family of five from New York State.
  
Sorry!  But stay tuned to usna-net.  We have been to every game for the last 
7 years and each year there were MANY people in our group who had extra 
tickets they couldn't GIVE away at the game.  This website makes the 
communication re: extra tickets possible.  I'll bet you will all have tickets 
by Saturday!

Good luck and have a wonderful time.  Stay warm!

Debi Johnston BGO
Charlotte NC
Ian '96 (P-3 Pilot), Garth '98 (Submariner)

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA22860
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:23:03 -0600 (CST)
From: CMears4@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:24:30 EST
Subject: usna-net: Individualized Opinfo
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

What a great week-end we had here in Eastern Washington.  We had our mid home 
in her own bed by 3:15AM Wednesday evening.  She had a good chuckle as that 
is her "time to get up in Eastern Pacific time - 0515!!!  Then after a 
wonderful Turkey day seeing the Mids on t.v., having a shoe polishing 
competition with Dad - class of '75, and enjoying family and friends we 
arranged for a special evening with high school friends.  
    I had run into a young man at school who has put his application into 
USNA. When I said that Mollie would be home for Thanksgiving, he asked if he 
could come over and talk to her.  Mollie also got a note from the gymnastics 
coach to contact this prospective gymnast.  As it turned out, we invited him 
over, along with several other high school friends.  He brought another 
friend with him and they announced that they had both gotten nominations in 
the mail that day for USNA and Airforce.  One wanted to go to Navy and one 
wanted to Fly with the Airforce.  Mollie regaled them with stories of 
Bancroft hall.  She kept trying to ask each of them what they had been doing 
at college, but they kept saying, "Nothing compared to what you've done.  
Tell us some more!"  I finally had to break up the group at midnight to 
rescue our little Plebette who was going on 0300 her time!!!!  
    We informed the boys to get in touch with the Midshipman from our town 
who is really doing OPINFO!  They are also both trying to visit the academy, 
so I'm sure they will be the best informed Plebes to ever walk on board!!  
    Mollie went back Saturday evening on a red eye flight with a Coast Guard 
cadet.  She was able to sleep most of the flight and most of the afternoon 
after arriving back at Bancroft.  She is so excited to be returning home for 
Christmas in just three short weeks.  And then her light at the end of the 
dark ages tunnel is the Women's Glee Club trip to Hawaii!  I loved 
overhearing her tell the boys, "There certainly are alot of things that I can 
say I hate about the Academy, but I wouldn't change it for the world.  I have 
been able to do so many fabulous things and I know the opportunities for me 
are endless when I get out!"  
     We're just very proud of her and continue to tell her she has now 
knocked off three of her goals...get through Plebe summer alive, get passing 
grades and make it to Thanksgiving!!!  Excitement is building!  
GO NAVY!  BEAT ARMY!!!
Caryn Mears, WA
Mollie Mears, 03 (some fun) 21 

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA23411
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:51:08 -0600 (CST)
From: CMears4@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:52:36 EST
Subject: usna-net: Cincinatti Parents
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

     Just wanted to let you Cincinatti Parents that Mollie was very surprised 
by the huge "Homecoming" she recieved while transferring plans at the 
airport.  Someone yelled at her, "Welcome Home"!  She turned and must have 
looked puzzled.  They said, "This is for you!  Welcome Home!"  She politely 
said, "Thank you!" and continued to her next leg of the journey... she 
finally got home to her own bed at 3:15AM west coast time, which was 0515 her 
time... She was thrilled to be welcomed home, but little did the Cincinatti 
group know she was only beginning the long journey to our home in Eastern 
WA.!!!  
   We certainly appreciate all the terrific things our "Net Family" has done 
for our Plebe and treasure all of the info that is shared here. 
Caryn and Dave Mears, WA
Mollie Mears, 03-21

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA23918
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:12:26 -0600 (CST)
From: "Christopher J. Smith" <wcoach@goes.com>
To: "USNA-NET" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: A/N
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:09:02 -0500
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Does anyone know if the Battleship New Jersey (which is at the Philly. Naval
Shipyard)  is within walking distance of Veterans Stadium. If not does
anyone have directions so we can go view this most decorated Battleship in
Navy History.

Chris
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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA27681
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:43:59 -0600 (CST)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:40:51 -0500 (EST)
From: John Ventura <ventura@RS3.npt.nuwc.navy.mil>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

						26 Nov 1999

	Nancy Pavona,

	I have lost your e-mail address and I have some
	information regarding the D&B competition against
	the Coast Guard Academy and the Air Force Academy.
	Please send your e-mail address to me again.

						John Ventura
						Ann-Catherine '03


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA01299
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:19:45 -0600 (CST)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:22:31 -0600
From: Randy Voss <rvoss@mwt.net>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Greetings

Navy Family:

I have not posted anything since Plebe Parents Weekend.  I read the
e-mails every day or two and I LOVE them!  We are not as informed as
some of the others out there. This is our first experience with a child
in college of any kind (my Plebe is the oldest of 4). The academy
education is above our hopes and dreams.

I have a couple thoughts for fellow Plebe Parent junkies:  1.  I
appreciate all the things you have shared, as I was able to make better
conversation with my Plebe because I was informed about a number of
things I learned from you - so thank you;  2.  If your son or daughter
has grown like mine has we are left tonight with the question of just
where might they all be going?  I want to say thank you to the Navy for
what ever it is they are up to;  3.  Am I taking this too serious?  I
can't help but feel very good about what I am seeing and hearing from my
Plebe.

Greetings from Wisconsin and have a blessed Holiday season!

Randy Voss
Jordon 03/15

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA04795
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:27:30 -0600 (CST)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:27:14 -0600
From: Randy Voss <rvoss@mwt.net>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: PS

Navy Family:
ps:  Go NAVY - Beat Army!

Randy Voss

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA05237
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:52:00 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Ticket exchanges/sales
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:51:17 -0500
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To all.  Please direct ALL matters concerning A/N tickets (requests as well
as sales) to USNA-Net.  There are about 125 members that are NOT on
USNA-Plebe and oodles more that are not on USNA-Sports.

For the widest possible distribution and fastest results, Please use
USNA-Net by sending all your ticket related matters to USNA-Net at
usna-net@navy-usna.org

Thanks,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA06002
	for usna-net-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:23:05 -0600 (CST)
From: "George F. Halcovage, Jr." <georgejr@ptdprolog.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Need for Two A/N Tickets
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:23:22 -0500
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Hello everyone!

I am still looking to get two additional tickets for the Army / Navy game.
If anyone from the Net has tickets that do become available, please contact
me at your earliest convenience.

I hope everyone had as great a Thanksgiving as our family enjoyed. There's
no doubt we can all be very proud of our sons and daughters as they continue
their journey towards service to our Country.

As always, GO NAVY --- BEAT ARMY !!!!!

Best regards,

George Halcovage
Pottsville, PA
Barbara 03 / 11


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA02576
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 06:11:37 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:09:54 -0500
From: Jan Jason <bludevil@warwick.net>
To: usna-net <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: A-N Game Info

Hi all,

My Mid's sponsor, who has been attending A-N games for many years,
contacted me and said that she is not sure how much "roaming" the
Mids will be allowed to do this year during and after the game.  The
usual Army Week pranks have been severely curtailed at the
Academy and the Brigade has been told that they will not be permitted to
go near the Corps at any time during the game.  They are basically to
stay in their seats.  Some of this has to do with the accident last year
when several Cadets were injured and some of it has to do with the extra
attention this game (the 100th) will attract.  The Academy is ALWAYS
extra sensitive to the "professional" image that must be portrayed to
the public. There will be no Mids with their shirts off and "Beat Army"
carved in their chest hair or any of the other "Spirit" stuff that has
been a part of the game as long as she can remember.  

I am bringing extra food just in case, but am not counting on a visit
from my son based on the above.

Regards,

Jan Jason
Warwick, NY

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA10116
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:17:38 -0600 (CST)
From: Jillsey11@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:19:02 EST
Subject: usna-net: Macy's T-Day parade
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

     Were any of the parents at the Thanksgiving Day parade?  And, if so, 
might anyone have a picture of the mids on their float.  I didn't get to 
spend the holiday with my son, as my mother had just had surgery and I wanted 
to spend it with her.  My husband and the rest of the family went up to 
Connecticut for the holidays, and went to the parade, but no one took 
pictures!  I got to see a brief glimpse of him on television, but would love 
to have a photo of the group and float.  If anyone does, I would be happy to 
pay for reproduction and mailing costs.  Didn't they sound and look great?  I 
was so proud of them all, as I think they represented Navy well.
     They looked surprisingly rested, as I think they had a very good time in 
New York the night before. <G>

Jill Adler
Eric 03/14

18 days until Christmas leave!!!!!!!

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA10264
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:25:53 -0600 (CST)
From: Jillsey11@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:27:20 EST
Subject: usna-net: Re: Christmas present suggestion
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

     I wanted to give everyone a Christmas present suggestion, as I know I am 
worrying about what to give my son.  He had his birthday in September, and, 
at his request, we got him a digital camera.  It was more money than I wanted 
to spend, but I remembered how much we are saving on tuition and decided to 
splurge a little.  Well, I couldn't have bought myself a better birthday 
present.  At least once a week I get an e-mail from him, and when I open it I 
find pictures.  I now know what his roommates look like, have a wonderful 
picture of him doing the Monster Mash, have a lovely photo of him dangling 
from a helicopter during SPIE rigging, etc.  It makes the distance so much 
easier to tolerate.  I think I am going to ask Santa for a photo printer.  
Too bad he didn't take it New York for the parade.....

Jill Adler
Eric 03/14

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA14404
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:56:18 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joe Flacke" <jlflacke@earthlink.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: A N Tickets
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:54:48 -0500
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Dear Members:
If anyone has two tickets to the game I would be interested. We live in
Upstate New York area and our daughter did not return home for Thanksgiving
because of her Basketball Schedule. We would like to see her at the A N game
this weekend. If you know of any tickets please send E-mail or call me at
518-377-2139.
I hope you all enjoyed having your Mid home for Thanksgiving.

Thankyou
Joe and Patty Flacke
Juliann, 03, 11th.


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA18699
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:39:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:40:44 EST
Subject: usna-net: Thank You All
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Thank you for all the e-mails I received about the Coast Guard Academy. My 
mid is still home and I am enjoying every minute. Unfortunately the time is 
quickly flying by.
I did manage to get a Christmas list and it includes a DVD for the computer, 
DVD movies and computer games, so all you plebe parents there is a life after 
the plebe year. 
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
LTWT CREW
Houston, TX

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA28862
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:14:22 -0600 (CST)
From: Bep33@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:15:48 EST
Subject: usna-net: Army Navy Kickoff
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

We are getting conflicting information about the start time for the Army Navy 
game.  Some are saying 11:00 EST.  Others are saying it is Noon EST.  Can 
anybody settle this question for us?

Brad Powers
Tulsa

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA00471
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:35:01 -0600 (CST)
X-Originating-IP: [204.178.119.102]
From: "Sherrie Bayer" <slbayer@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: Here we go again!!!  Siblings at USNA
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:36:34 PST

Dear Friends,

It looks like we will be doing this all over again!!!  Our second son, Matt, 
has qualified through DODMERB, received a letter of assurance from the 
Academy, and got a call on Friday from our Congressman telling Matt he was 
his principal nominee.  We are thrilled and excited and so proud of him.  We 
also know the challenges that lie before him--we've heard a lot of sea 
stories!  Any advice, comments, or hints from parents out there who have 
siblings at the Academy would be much appreciated.  Next year I look forward 
to picking up 2 mids at the airport!

Go Navy!!!

Sherrie Bayer
Bolivar, MO
Brett 02/29, Matt 04

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA09131
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:56:49 -0600 (CST)
From: jj.gw.houston@juno.com
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:52:57 -0600
Subject: usna-net: Army Navy Tickets
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Have a friend who would like to purchase 2 to 4 tickets to Army Navy game
if there
are any available.

Please contact me on personal e-mail.  Thanks.

Glyndell Houston
Houston, TX

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA13016
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:53:06 -0600 (CST)
From: PWestover@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:54:37 EST
Subject: usna-net: King Hall Chairs?!?
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

     Has anybody who ordered a King all Chair heard from the people who are 
handling this project?  I sent a ceck in about two weeks ago with my E-Mail 
address and phone number in case there was a problem, but am assuming that 
all is well since I have not heard anything.  Has anyone else had any 
communication?  I hope everybody had a wonderful Thanksgiving with their 
Mids.  We had our ensign home with her new fiancee' (also Class of '98) so we 
had a special celebration!!

Pam Westover
Katy '98 (02)

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA13398
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:07:18 -0600 (CST)
From: MrVinnyD@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:08:38 EST
Subject: usna-net: (no subject)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Oh happy day.  In 1890 on this date, November 29, Navy BEAT army in the VERY 
FIRST match ever!!!!  Check the "Reef Points", I tell the truth!  I could use 
some suggestions as to where to go AFTER Navy beats army on Saturday.  
Where's a good hotel restaurant, shopping mall, anywhere relaxing to go with 
your Midshipman until it is time for him/her to board the bus?   We haven't 
gotten a hotel room since we plan to drive home after saying our farewell.  
Twelve days after that, Christmas break begins for many.  HOOOOYAHHHH!!!!! 
Jane D. - Allentown, PA
Gianni 03/6th  

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA14201
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:44:15 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:50:35 -0500
From: Some Cully <cullfam@warwick.net>
To: "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Last year's A-N accident

Dear Members,

Joyce Burns posted a message about the accident that occurred last year
in Veteran's Stadium. I was near the area where the accident occurred -
earlier in the morning, before the March-on, cadets stole part of a
large banner that a Naval Academy Parent's Club had hung from the
railing in the opposite end zone. The mids attempted to recover that
part of the banner so that the entire banner would be complete - it was
a matter of honor.
HOWEVER, this railing that collapsed under the weight of gleeful cadets
and Officers had been duct-taped from the previous week where there was
a prior incident at the Eagles game! I learned this from friends of mine
who are on the staff of West Point. No one wanted to return to this
crumbling place. Sound from the videos (mid and cadet created) that are
played during the game are terrible.

As for rough actions - I personally saw cadets sneak in and punch mids
in 'our' end zone area during the game and watched as security guards
led several cadets away in handcuffs ! Even before the game, I watched
as our mids from the 13th Co - who traditionally run the football up to
the Stadium from Annapolis - entered into the Stadium with one of the
game balls and saw them punched by several cadets as the mids ran around
the outside of the playing field. One of our 13th Co. mids - a female -
responded with a mighty fist to the face of a cadet! It won the approval
of the brigade. 
  I also watched as a group of cadets came up into our section during
the game, which was directly over the brigade and pour large soda cups,
filled with soda!! onto the heads of our mids!!!! I was and am still 
appalled at this behavior and if I could have gotten my hands on one of
them, ***##$&!
Some USNA Alumni wrote letters to the Alumni magazine , SHIPMATE,
complaining profusely about the bare painted chests of some in the
brigade (They did get prior approval from the 'dant - they were my son's
roommates!!) and thought it was 'un-officerly & un-gentlemenly' I read
those letters. Some top Navy brass called the YArd to expres their
thoughts - all in all, changes are in the wind for this year's game. I
just hope that I don't ever witness the behavior that I saw last year - 

Go Navy - Beat Army!!!!
Kathy Cully

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA14490
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:56:26 -0600 (CST)
From: RAmes50695@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:57:57 EST
Subject: usna-net: After Thanksgiving without our Daughter
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

To All,

I wrote this to Joyce Burns last evening after reading her wonderful post 
about our mids' return to the yard.  Her beautifully written descriptions 
touched me and tugged on a few heartstrings. Joyce suggested that I share my 
post with you.  I want to share with you because I''m sure all of you have 
experienced similar feelings of pride, and of pain at some time during your 
mids life at the academy.  It is this pain, this pride and this love we all 
share for our children that brings us together .............


Joyce,

Tonight I cried.  For the first time I let down my guard when I was reading 
your post and I cried for my little girl, who did not come home, for the 
empty seat at the dining room table on Thanksgiving Day, for the space that 
no longer exists between Dick and me in church, for the rotating door I so 
enjoyed when Erin was around, for Charlie who will not know his sister like 
most little boys know their big sisters and who will no longer have her to 
dote the way only she could dote, for that place in my arms and heart that 
only she can fill.

It was a good cry, one that has been coming for months.  It was long and full 
and emptying.  My parents have gone home, Dick and Charlie are sleeping, and 
I was doing my final email check of the evening..............hoping of course 
to find a note from Erin, knowing from history, that the likelihood of that 
is slim.  I was glad to be alone because I didn't want to be comforted.  I 
wanted to feel the pain, the loneliness, the anxiety.  

As I read your eloquently written post, it struck me just how far away she 
is, just how mature she is now EXPECTED to be, just how much she has gained 
in life from this experience, just how much I miss her.  It struck me just 
how much different her life is and will be than anything I can or ever will 
be able to imagine, much less how different it is from what I experienced at 
her age.  It struck me that although she will always be my child, she is no 
longer a child.  The innocence, the idealistic view of life, and the bit of 
shyness are gone.  They have been replaced by a degree of sophistication, a 
realism that may even be shaded by a bit of cynicism, and a self-confidence 
that can only come with hard earned personal achievement.

 I have watched over and over again, the video I took of the retiring of the 
Colors when I was there last week.  I watch with incredible pride as a 
beautiful, perfectly groomed and dressed, crisply marching mid comes to a 
halt and stands at perfect attention before the Flag of our nation, and 
awaits the bugle signal announcing to all, that sunset has officially 
occurred.  I watch over and over again as the same mid so gracefully and 
respectfully lowers that Flag, hand over hand on the line, eyes locked on the 
giant red, white and blue banner as company mates catch the opposing ends to 
keep it afloat.  I watch as the three of them in perfect harmony with one 
another, fold and fold, treating the cloth with incredible reverence.  The 
silence is broken by a solitary mid standing at perfect attention in the 
center of T. Court..............calling out orders for 
formation.........right face..........Harch...........company 
Halt............Left Face Halt................About Face.. Harch............I 
watch, as silently the three on the left and the three on the right come face 
to face and then so cleanly turn about face to march up the stairs of 
Bancroft and disappear into the darkness of the building.  Every time I watch 
the scene I find myself choking back those tears...........as though I was 
watching for the first time. I don't know if you have ever had the 
opportunity of seeing Steven take part in that ceremony.  If you haven't 
Joyce, please treat yourself to the experience whenever you can.  My heart 
leapt as I watched Erin.  I was so full of love, and respect, and 
honor...............for my daughter and for flag she so tenderly cared for.  
What a gift that was for me!

Joyce, I have gone on and on here.  Please don't think for a moment that I am 
sorry you shared your experience with us, or that it had anything but a 
positive impact on me.  It was time for me to let down my guard and your mind 
photo of the yard and the activity, and the buildings, and the water and the 
temperature and the mids, and the dogs and imagining myself walking there and 
witnessing the evening's events......just brought it all down for me.  Thank 
you for writing, and for sharing with us, your gift.  I feel very lucky 
tonight............to be who I am, and to know a bit more about who you 
are................to have the common bond we share in our children and to be 
in an age where we can feel so close to someone who lives many hundreds of 
miles away....................

Good night my Friend.

Judy
  



Judy Ames 
Erin Borozny 03/17

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18420
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:34:44 -0600 (CST)
From: "Richard Lang" <RWLang@worldnet.att.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Tailgating & liberty questions for Army Navy
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:43:28 -0500
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Hi Everyone,

As a plebe parent, pardon my ignorance, but what is the customary (if =
there is one) procedure for tailgating at the Army Navy game??  We have =
a few questions if anyone can guide us in the right direction:

1) If the Brigades march on at 9:38 per our son's message, do we stay in =
the stadium until game time? Are there a lot of festivities to see for =
over 2 hours until kickoff?  If so, I presume most tailgating takes =
place after the game.

2) 0r do people leave the stadium to tailgate before the game, have the =
tailgate, then re-enter?

3)  If mids have liberty until the bus leaves at 1 am, what do they do =
all that time?

Any light anyone can shed on any of these questions would be most =
appreciated!  Thanks

Barbara Lang

rwlang@worldnet.att.net





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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18641
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:35:18 -0600 (CST)
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From: "Terry Hobert" <midmatt03@hotmail.com>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: usna-net: one N/A ticket
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:36:50 EST

This is a repeat of my earlier message sent only to the plebe parents.

We have one extra ticket to the game.   It is possible for us to sell this 
ticket to someone outside the Navy family, but we prefer to have it go to a 
midshipman's parents/siblings   I think this is a fairly good seat, since it 
has a $50 face value.  We won't know the location until we pick up our 
tickets at will-call early Saturday morning.  We would like to meet whomever 
wants the ticket at the will call window.
Please contact me if you would like this ticket.

Terry Hobert
Matt 03/16
GO Navy~BEAT army

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA28003
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:57:46 -0600 (CST)
From: "Kenneth Johnson" <midsmom@earthlink.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: 1 Army/Navy ticket
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<<Terry Hobert wrote:
<<We have one extra ticket to the game.   It is possible for us to sell this
<<ticket to someone outside the Navy family, but we prefer to have it go to
a
<<midshipman's parents/siblings.

We also have one ticket available!  If anyone needs 2, here you go (even
though they won't be together!!)

Lynn Johnson
Kurt '02/6th Co



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA25023
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:50:35 -0600 (CST)
From: Navymom02@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:50:44 EST
Subject: usna-net: A Different Perspective
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

I must admit I found it a bit disturbing to read the postings regarding the 
negative behavior at last year's Army/Navy game.  I know I was at the same 
game, but perhaps I was in a better seat, because all I saw was a group of 
extremely high spirited young men and women having a great time. I'm glad I 
did not see any real punching or fighting.   Of course, I saw the accident, 
which was just that, an awful accident.  Before anyone tells me I have my 
head burried in the sand, I already know it, and I prefer it this way.

For those of you who are interested in another perspective read the article 
in the December 6 issue of US News and World Report.  It is titled An 
Honorable Rivalry, written by Lynn Rosellini.    The following are my 
favorite excerpts:   "More amazing than the longevity of the Army-Navy game, 
though, is its status as one of the last honorable sports rivalries.  Modern 
football is not exactaly a celebration of sportsmanship......Army-Navy is 
different.  Despite the game's raucous 19th century beginnings, when 
fistfights were common and officers dueled, today's rivalry is grounded in 
mutual respect, stemming in part from the grueling regimen shared by all 
cadets and midshipmen.  There is a sense of shared destiny, too......Winning 
is important, but winning with honor is paramount......Nor does the rivalry 
end with graduation.  In 1965, when West Point alumnus Frank Borman helped 
maneuver Gemini 7 to a rendezvous in space with Gemini 6, piloted by 
Annapolis grads Wally Schirra and Tom Stafford, Borman noticed a big blue and 
gold sign in the spacecraft window.  It said, Beat Army.......If custom is 
served, at the end of the game, the players will file onto the field, put 
their hands over their hearts and perform a ritual that seems as quaint today 
as the leather helmets the teams once wore.  The players - joined by the 
student bodies of both academies - will sing their school anthems.  It's a 
reminder that contrary to the old sports dictum, winning really isn't the 
only thing."

I hope you all really enjoy the game!  

GO NAVY - BEAT ARMY!!!
Mary Cannici, NJ

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA25123
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:55:40 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: New Website feature
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:49:55 -0500
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To all,

Since you're all so happy to be counting the days until Christmas Leave
begins, I've put the Countdown to Christmas Leave Clock on our main website
page at...

www.navy-usna.org

Just a little more help in keeping track until you have to have the house
ready for your Mid to inspect and then systematically put back into it's
usual chaotic state that makes it feel so much like home..

Best regards,

Mike Zets
Westlake, OH
mzets@mail.com
Moderator for USNA-Net / USNA-Plebe / USNA-ClubNet Listservers
Webmaster - www.navy-usna.org and www.neonap.org




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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA25671
	for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:17:30 -0600 (CST)
From: Sdalziel@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:19:02 EST
Subject: Re: usna-net: A Different Perspective
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Thank you Mary !!!!!

A perfect message to get us all into the true spirit of THE ARMY/NAVY 
game!!!!  With that thought in our minds...and Lee Greenwood singing "I'm 
Proud to Be an American"....... I know this mom will be without mascara...and 
lots of kleenex in hand!!!

See you all in Philly......with our red/white/blue net ribbons flying proudly 
in that cool Philly breeze !!!

GO NAVY.......BEAT ARMY !!!!

Sue Dalziel
Scott 01/26
Nashville

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA22254
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:02:55 -0600 (CST)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:02:55 -0600 (CST)
From: owner-usna-net@westpoint.west-point.org

Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Air Force Reserve.

**********************************************

When Was The First Army-Navy Football Game Played, and who
won?

November 29, 1890 with the Navy winning 24-0

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Gregg

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA23465
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:07:46 -0600 (CST)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: <cullfam@warwick.net>, "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
References: <38431F5B.1258@warwick.net>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Last year's A-N accident
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Kathy,

We have come a ways since 1891 tough. At that Amry-Navy game there were some
16 duels between Officers and several more incidents of "frindly strife"
among Amry Cadets and Naval Cadets (the name for student officers an the
academy until Jul 1, 1902).

Hope the game is decided only on the field this year!

BEAT ARMY!!

GRegg


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA23860
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:09:12 -0600 (CST)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: <cullfam@warwick.net>, "usna-net @navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: Re: usna-net: Last year's A-N accident
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Kathy,

We have come a ways since 1891 tough. At that Army-Navy game there were some
16 duels between Officers and several more incidents of "friendly strife"
among Amry Cadets and Naval Cadets (the name for student officers an the
academy until Jul 1, 1902).

Hope the game is decided only on the field this year!

BEAT ARMY!!

Gregg



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA24497
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:11:34 -0600 (CST)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:11:34 -0600 (CST)
From: owner-usna-net@westpoint.west-point.org

**********************************************

When Was The First Army-Navy Football Game Played, and who
won?

November 29, 1890 with the Navy winning 24-0

************************************************

Gregg

BEAT ARMY!



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	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:29:16 -0600 (CST)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:29:16 -0600 (CST)
From: owner-usna-net@westpoint.west-point.org

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA07365
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:53:25 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Fw: The words to the Alma Maters
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:53:13 -0500
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Forwarded at the request of Gregg Steinhilpert

Mary,

Nice article! The singing of the others' alma mater is a custom shared by
all the service academies and several colleges (ND comes to mind). But, only
the academies do it real justice. Decorum has it where all the players from
both teams join in front of the losing team's stand and sing that school's
alma mater, then the same is done in front of the visitor's stands.

Now comes the test of the true and honorable sportsman. While we all know
the words to "Blue & Gold", who knows the ones to West Point's "Alma Mater"
or Air Force's "Here's a Toast"?

***********************************************
Navy

In 1892:

The colors of the Naval Academy are designated blue and gold. This ends the
tradition of each class selecting its own colors.

Dec 1, 1906
The Naval Academy song "Anchors Aweigh" is sung for the first time at the
Army-Navy football game. Written by Lieutenant Charles A. Zimmerman,
bandmaster of the Academy and choir director, the song is dedicated to the
class of 1907. Zimmerman composed a piece of music each year for the
graduating class.  "Navy Blue and Gold" is traditional sung after sporting
events by alumni of the Naval Academy. The audience is asked to show respect
during the song by standing silently.

Now, college men from sea to sea
May sing of colors true.
But who has better right than we
To hoist a symbol hue?
For sailor men in battle fair
since fighting days of old
Have proved the sailor's right to wear
The Navy Blue and Gold.

*********************************
Army

ALMA MATER
The most beloved of all West Point songs, "Alma Mater" had its beginnings as
a furlough song in 1908. It was sung at the Baccalaureate Service on June 9,
1912 and took its place as a musical expression of the feelings of every
West Pointer toward his alma mater. It is sung by the football team and
Corps of Cadets at the conclusion of every football game.

The Alma Mater
by P. S. Reinecke, USMA 1911

"Hail, Alma Mater dear,
To us be ever near,
Help us thy motto bear
Through all the years.
Let duty be well performed,
Honor be e'er untarned,
Country be ever armed,
West Point, by thee."

"Guide us, thy sons, aright,
Teach us by day, by night,
To keep thine honor bright,
For thee to fight.
When we depart from thee,
Serving on land or sea,
May we still loyal be,
West Point, to thee."

"Hail, Alma Mater dear,
To us be ever near,
Help us thy motto bear
Through all the years.
Let duty be well performed,
Honor be e'er untarned,
Country be ever armed,
West Point, by thee."

"Guide us, thy sons, aright,
Teach us by day, by night,
To keep thine honor bright,
For thee to fight.
When we depart from thee,
Serving on land or sea,
May we still loyal be,
West Point, to thee."

"And when our work is done,
Our course on earth is run,
May it be said, 'Well Done;
Be Thou At Peace.'
E'er may that line of gray
Increase from day to day,
Live, serve, and die, we pray,
West Point, for thee."

*******************************************
AIR FORCE

AIR FORCE's Alma Mater is the Chorus to the AIR FORCE song:

HERE'S A TOAST!

Here's a toast to the host of those who love the vastness of the sky,
To a friend we send the message of his brother men who fly.
We drink to those who gave their all of old,
Then down we roar to score the rainbow's pot of gold.
A toast to the host of men we boast the US AIR FORCE.

Gregg

BEAT ARMY!

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA11361
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:31:22 -0600 (CST)
From: MBS222@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:32:50 EST
Subject: usna-net: Two tickets available
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Dear Navy  net members,

We have two tickets available now because our kids have other committments!  
They are in Section 627 (nosebleed section) and I can fedex them today if I 
have someone who would like them....contact me by e mail and leave your name 
and phone number and I will call tonight.....

I know that Navy will win this year.....but I'll say it again....Beat Army!!

Mary Anne Scoultz
Brad 03/19

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA12403
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:12:26 -0600 (CST)
From: MBS222@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:13:58 EST
Subject: usna-net: Those tickets
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Dear Net members,

Sorry, those two tickets are now sold.  See you at the game!

Mary Anne Schoultz
Brad 03/19

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA00409
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:06:56 -0600 (CST)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:08:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Oliver <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
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	The game has always started at NOON  with a 0900 walk on of both
brigades............................................peace and hugs...Jo


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA01714
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:07:01 -0600 (CST)
From: BJSBURNS@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:08:33 EST
Subject: usna-net: More and more tickets for A/N game available each day
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hi Everyone,

    Since we were initially short of tickets we put a request out to many 
parents of Mids months ago.  We now have our tickets but are receiving calls 
each day from friends (parents) who have available tickets.  As of this AM we 
know of 5 available tickets for the A/N game.  There are in two sets of pairs 
and one single ticket.  One set ($65 a ticket) includes a round trip bus ride 
(sponsored by the VFW) from Bayville, NJ to the game, but one does not have 
to use the bus ride to use the tickets.  If you are interested, please email 
me.  Best regards, Joyce Burns

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA02019
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:20:38 -0600 (CST)
From: Jhb317@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:22:07 EST
Subject: usna-net: ADM RYANS SPEECH
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Hello,
I was talking to my mid about the speech the Adm. gave to the mids about 
cynicism. I can't find it to show him what he said. Please e-mail if you know 
where I can locate it.
Carol Bringhurst
02/19 Josh
LTWT CREW
Houston, TX

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA03130
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:52:22 -0600 (CST)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:54:59 -0700
From: Bob Brown <robert.erven.brown@azbar.org>
Organization: Robert Erven Brown, p.a.
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To: Oliver <joliver@suffolk.lib.ny.us>, usna-net@navy-usna.org
Subject: Re: usna-net: Army Navy Kickoff
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Per the Schedule Office web site, the busses are to arrive at Veterans
Stadium at appx 8:30 a.m., be in formation at 8:55 and march on at 9:38
a.m.  Kickoff is 12:08 p.m.

There is a wonderful article on The Game in the November edition of the
Smithsonian beginning on page 142. It is the best history of The Game
I've read...

I am flying in from Phoenix and my brother from Big Fork, Montana to
cheer for the Blue and Gold!  See you at The Game!

Bob Brown
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*** USNA-NET post by: BROWN Kevin MacLaren 01-14 BROWN Bob <robert.erven.brown@azbar.org>

Have you subscribed to USNA-Sports yet?
Visit our website at www.navy-usna.org



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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA21404
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:47:22 -0600 (CST)
From: "Gregg Steinhilpert" <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>
To: "USNA-Net" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Cc: "Harrison, Pat" <patharr@usairways.com>
Subject: usna-net: Any Ticketsd left?
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:48:30 -0500
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A good friend of mine is in need of two tix if anyone has any left. She is a
USNA Mom-in-Law. Her Grad is a Marine, looking for two tix. Please let me
know if you have nay tix extra or contact her: Pat Harrison
<patharr@usairways.com>.

Thanks in advance,

Gregg

Beat Army!


*** USNA-NET post by: STEINHILPERT Gregg and Carrie <steinhilpert@74.usafa.org>

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA23917
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:33:18 -0600 (CST)
From: TMiller091@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:34:45 EST
Subject: usna-net: Vet. Stadium seating chart
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org


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Parents:

Here is a Vet. Stadium seating section chart FYI.

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*** USNA-NET post by: MILLER Matthew C 03-28 MILLER Thomas <TMiller091@aol.com>

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA27218
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:50:38 -0600 (CST)
From: EFi3346410@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:52:05 EST
Subject: usna-net: A-N activities continue
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Pushups - one room in 25th co. (plebes) reported they had done 8012.  My 
daughter said this was   wayyyyyy more than she and roomies could do.

She named the plebes and said "you probably know their parents, you parents 
seem to know everyone!"   (Was that indicating that we know too much about 
the goings on?   Tough!)

She said that she was trying to decide what to do for a recon with her plebes 
(something that won't break the rules, but would make them enjoy their plebe 
year A-N week!)   They all plan on hanging sheets with inspirational 
messages.  

Spirits are high, but in control.   And in the middle of this "Gulliver's 
Travels" will be written about, and pro knowledge will be handled.

Last year my mid memorized one of the normal respones to something in 
Spanish-that caught a few off guard!.

Anyone on the Yard tomorrow night for the activities, if you see my plebe out 
there giving her all for Navy,  give her a Mom hug,   she hasn't been home 
since Aug. and  we miss her.

Lynn Fisher 

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA29248
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:21:51 -0600 (CST)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:20:41 -0600
Subject: Re: usna-net: Here we go again!!!  Siblings at USNA
From: "LeRoy" <eleroy@socket.net>
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

Dear Bayers , Congratulations in Matt's good news! What a great early 
Christmas gift for your family!  We also are from Missouri and we have two
sons at the Naval Academy right now. We have had this occur twice.  Once
with the oldest, Monty, and the middle, Adam and now with Adam and the
youngest, David.  We know how proud and happy your family is right now. It
was very special to have an older brother present his presentation at the
High School Graduation Award Ceremony.  It made all the headlines in Ann
Arbor, Michigan, where Adam attended high school.
I guess our sons David and Brett are in the same company.  Its a samll world
huh?  Congratulations again!

Go Navy beat Army... on Saturday !!!!
Leroy and Conchita Gravseth
Poplar Bluff, MO
Monty 98
Adam  00/ 1
David 02/29

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>From: "Sherrie Bayer" <slbayer@hotmail.com>
>To: usna-net@navy-usna.org
>Subject: usna-net: Here we go again!!!  Siblings at USNA
>Date: Mon, Nov 29, 1999, 2:36 PM
>

> Dear Friends,
>
> It looks like we will be doing this all over again!!!  Our second son, Matt,
> has qualified through DODMERB, received a letter of assurance from the
> Academy, and got a call on Friday from our Congressman telling Matt he was
> his principal nominee.  We are thrilled and excited and so proud of him.  We
> also know the challenges that lie before him--we've heard a lot of sea
> stories!  Any advice, comments, or hints from parents out there who have
> siblings at the Academy would be much appreciated.  Next year I look forward
> to picking up 2 mids at the airport!
>
> Go Navy!!!
>
> Sherrie Bayer
> Bolivar, MO
> Brett 02/29, Matt 04
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
> *** USNA-NET post by: BAYER Brett 02-29 BAYER Bing & Sherrie
<slbayer@hotmail.com>
>
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>
> 

*** USNA-NET post by: GRAVSETH Monty 98 Adam 00-1 David 02 GRAVSETH LeRoy <eleroy@socket.net>

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA03982
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:37:29 -0600 (CST)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 21:41:23 -0500
From: "David C. Day" <dcday@ibm.net>
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To: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>,
        usna-plebe <usna-plebe@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: One Ticket Needed

Okay, we purchased early and thought we had everyone covered for the
Army/Navy game until we received a call a few minutes ago. So, if anyone
has one ticket available please e-mail us directly.  Thanks!

Beat Army!

David & Diane Day 
Jennifer 03/03

*** USNA-NET post by: DAY Jennifer L 03-B DAY Diane and David<dcday@ibm.net>

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA08947
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:56:27 -0600 (CST)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 21:58:31 -0500
From: Mark Schweikert <judgems@fuse.net>
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To: "usna-net@navy-usna.org" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: 2 Army/Navy Tix

Just found out I have two extra Army/Navy Tickets. Will sell for face
value to any mid parents or friends and family who will use them (not
sell them).  Gate D, section 250, lower level.  Looks like 10-15 yard
line from the stadium map I have.

GO NAVY!
Mark Schweikert
Grant 03/19


*** USNA-NET post by: SCHWEIKERT Grant B. 03-19 SCHWEIKERT Patti and Mark <judgems@fuse.net>

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA11289
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 21:05:28 -0600 (CST)
From: LiliaMayer@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:06:57 EST
Subject: usna-net: (no subject)
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

To those attending the Army/Navy Game:

Since I have a wonderful cousin who lives in the outskirts of Phila., we are 
planning a post-game party at her house.  The Mids can relax, eat, nap, chat, 
watch TV, play music (whatever) until it's time to go back to the bus -- 
something they can't do as well in a restaurant or hotel room.  If you, your 
family and your  Mid would like to join us, you are most welcomed. 
   Interested?  Please email me privately.
    Lilia Mayer
    Richmond, VA
     Justin 03/07

*** USNA-NET post by: MAYER Justin J 03-7 MAYER Lilia W <LiliaMayer@aol.com>

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA02610
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:16:02 -0600 (CST)
From: ERConklin@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:16:59 EST
Subject: usna-net: Tickets???
To: usna-net@navy-usna.org

DON'T LAUGH.....I am looking for 4 tickets to the Army/Navy game. Go ahead, 
call me a dreamer. My e-mail address is ERConklin@aol.com
                        Home phone # is  (615)  758-2311

*** USNA-NET post by: CONKLIN James Patrick 01-15 CONKLIN Jim and Eileen <ERConklin@aol.com>

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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA03839
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:20:42 -0600 (CST)
From: "Norton Smiley" <nsmiley@ibm.net>
To: <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: Tickets
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:28:19 -0500
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We could use two tickets for friends of my mid

Please contact me if any are available.

TX,
Norton Smiley
Devin, '00/22nd


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	by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA12611
	for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:55:19 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Zets" <mzets@mail.com>
To: "<USNA-Net>" <usna-net@navy-usna.org>
Subject: usna-net: TECH NOTE
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:51:24 -0500
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To all...

Since some of you are less comfortable with computers than others, I will be
sending these TECH NOTES to help.  DO NOT respond to these TECH NOTES on the
Listservers.  Address ALL responses or questions to me personally at
mzets@mail.com.  Computer whizzes delete this message  - Newbies read on...

=============================================
TECH NOTE - EMAIL ADDRESS and URLs

Enough of you are new to this stuff that I thought an explanation of some
basics was necessary about email and web sites.

An email address is a personal address of one individual under which that
person sends and receives email.  It consists of two parts separated by the
@ sign.  Like so...

username@somewhere.com

The first part (username) is a unique name for the individual.
The second part (somewhere.com) is the name of the Internet Service Provider
(ISP) that the individual uses at the other end of the modem connection to
process email.

A lot of you are members of AOL and your email addresses end in" @aol.com"
since AOL is your ISP.  It's all very simple when you think of it as "You @
Some Company"  Since there can be a Bill or Jane at a number of different
companies, you can have Bill@xyz.com and Bill@abc.net.  They are different
people and the email addresses are totally different when taken as a whole.
With so many Bills at AOL.com, you will find that you get Bill03@aol.com and
Bill2306@aol.com and so on.

The first part of the second part as in "@aol" is actually the entire
company name and the ".com" part is a classification of what kind of company
it is.  It is assigned by the people that keep track of that sort of thing
(Network Solutions) and is assigned as any of several DOTsomethings.  DOTcom
is for most commercial enterprises.  DOTnet is reserved for those ISPs that
deal mainly in communications or networks.  DOT org is reserved for
non-commercial organizations like navy-usna.org (that's us).  There are also
DOTmil for military use only and DOTedu for educational institutions.

This all leads me to my next point of discussion...  WORLD WIDE WEB
addresses.

The World Wide Web (www) is a part of the Internet that most of us are at
least somewhat familiar.  We see www. this and www. that almost everywhere.
It seems that you can't swing a dead cat without hitting on a www address
somewhere today.  While it is becoming more popular to refer to these as
addresses, they are actually called Universal Resource Locators (URLs).
You will find companies saying to visit their website at www.nike.com and
www.sony.com and so on.  They are actually asking you to use your Web
Browser software in your computer to look at their website which has a URL
of www.something.com

If you spotted the similarity of the last part of the URL with the last part
of an email address, you win the prize for the evening.  You see, Internet
Service Providers (ISPs) are actually companies and they have a URL the same
as any other company that is on the Internet.  So you see, there is a
personal email address like Bill03@aol.com and a company (America Online)
with a URL that is www.aol.com   The URL is the browser address of AOL's
website and as it happens, AOL also provides email services to millions of
subscribers who have email addresses that end in @aol.com.

If you want to send Bill03@aol.com an email, you must use your Email Program
and type his address into the "To:" when sending new mail. Email Programs in
common use are Microsoft Outlook Express and Netscape Communicator.

If you want to visit a website, you must use your Web Browser Program
(that's different from your email program) and type the URL into the address
box at the top of the page.  When you hit the "Enter" key or click on "Go"
next to the URL, your browser accesses the Internet and puts up a view of
the website on your screen to view.  Web Browsers in common use are
Microsoft Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator.

I said they were different programs and they are.  AOL subscribers usually
use the software that was provided by AOL and it looks like only one program
that does both but it is actually two separate programs running side by side
under a sort of master umbrella program.  Trust me on this one.

You can't use your email program to browse websites and you can't use your
browser to send email.  They are as different as writing a letter and taking
a ride on a train.

One final tip for the day...

When using your Browser software to view a website, you will see some of the
text that is displayed on a page is a different color and is underlined.
This is usually a "Link."  A "Link" is a jumping off point to go to another
place on the Web.  When you move your mouse over a "Link," the mouse pointer
will change from an arrow to a little hand with one finger pointing upward.
[No.  Not that finger! :>) ]  Anyway, if you click your left mouse button
when the little hand is showing, you will jump to the page of the site that
this "Link" targets as a jump-to spot.  To get back to where you were before
the jump, you can use your"Back" button at the top of your browser's menu
bar at the top of your screen.  The "Back" button points to the left and the
"Forward" button points to the right.

Some sites get a little fancy with "Links" and incorporate them into
graphical images and pictures.  We do this on our website when we use little
picture in the Photo Gallery to act as "Links" to larger copies of the same
photo.  When you move your mouse over a little photo (thumbnail), the arrow
changes to a pointing hand and if you left click on the image you will be
shown a larger version of the same picture.

Likewise, on our main page there is a little picture of a movie camera in
the upper right of the page.  If you move your mouse over it, the pointer
will change into a little hand and if you left click you mouse, you will
jump to the BayCam page that shows a live image of the City Docks in
Annapolis at that time plus the local weather forecast and current
conditions.  The moral of this part of the story is to move your mouse
around when visiting a website and watch for it to switch between an arrow
and a little hand.  Click and go wild.  If you go from "Link" to "Link" you
will finally be doing what is called Surfing the Net.

If you have questions, drop me an email at mzets@mail.com or visit our
website at
www.navy-usna.org  We have loads of information on the site and everyone
should spend a few hours surfing our site.  Look at the Pictures, Read the
Rules of Operation, check out our Parents' Handbook and read our Frequently
Asked Questions (FAQs).  But most of all - Have Fun.

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Please note that I know "I" am violating the rule that "ALL messages must
relate to Navy Parenting" but I feel there is good reason.  As Moderator,
I'm allowed to be the exception that proves the rule.  If you do not need a
little computer advice from time to time, simply hit the delete key when you
see the Subject: TECH NOTE.

If you have a specific question that you need help with, write to me at
mzets@mail.com.  I will answer as many as possible directly and those that
seem to be of general interest, I will post in a TECH NOTE.

Mike Zets
List Moderator



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