~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Sat Jun 2 10:11:13 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA14990 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:11:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00b701c0eb76$2c0b9a00$fd1abfa8@sandi> From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: USNA-Net Newsletter - June 2, 2001 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:10:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk ================================================================ USNA-Net Newsletter June 2, 2001 ================================================================ In this issue... 1. Where are all of the '05 Parents? 2. You got your Moderator in Trouble... 3. Chat Room Hours 4. That "Other" Sports List 5. What we are all about... 6. Rule Reasons - Midshipman Privacy ================================================================ This Newsletter is sent to all members of our USNA-Net Listservers. It's published approximately three times each month and is intended to provide insight into our service, answers to Frequently Asked Questions, and Technical Assistance and Information to our membership. ================================================================ 1. Where are all of the '05 Parents? As I-Day approaches, I'm beginning to wonder if you are all doing your jobs as good members out there in CyberSpace. You're supposed to be finding and recruiting the Parents of the Class of 2005 BEFORE their Plebes-to-be go off to Plebe Summer. You all know that our USNA-Plebe list does the most good for those Parents who get in early. June is the month when most Parents' Clubs have some sort of Plebe send off event. Whether it's a Picnic or a Brunch or whatever, the club gets together to pass on whatever advice they have to the new Parents and the Plebes-to-be. This is the perfect time to make sure that all of the Parents know about USNA-Net and have our Web Site address for when they get home to their computers. We can't make it any easier. Our web address is our name... www.USNA-Net.org. Just remember the dash in the middle. Or if you want, go to our site and scroll to the bottom of the main page to where it says "Please help us to help other parents... Click here to find out how." There you will find several options to print out our USNA-Net Business Card to pass out to those new parents you will meet this month or at I-Day itself. WE NEED YOU TO TELL OTHERS ABOUT US! 2. You got your Moderator in Trouble... With a Capital "T" and that rhymes with "C" and that stands for Care Packages. It seems that our members know "too much" according to a few staff members at the Academy... at least with regard to care packages during Plebe Summer! Last year, the Bancroft Post Office was deluged with more care packages than could be processed in a timely fashion and we, the humble USNA-Net members that we are, were blamed. Of course, this could never have been because Parents' Clubs across the country routinely tell their members to send Care Packages. :>) I have to admit that before USNA-Net started telling everyone about Care Packages, parents didn't know nearly as much about WHAT to send or WHEN to send it but we knew it was important to send extras via Care Packages during the summer. So let's review... If you accompany your Plebe to I-Day, you're to leave one small package at the Main Office in Bancroft before you leave that day. Then you should US Mail another one in Annapolis before you leave the city so that it arrives a few days later. Then you might want to send a few more over the next six week so that your Mid will eventually have everything he/she needs to make it through the summer. For more advice on "what" to send, see our Parents Handbook on the Web Site at www.USNA-Net.org. And don't forget to LISTEN when your Plebe tells you what they need in that first or second phone call to home. 3. Chat Room Hours I keep getting asked why there is never anyone in the Chat Room by members who log in and find the Room empty. Well, we're all a little too busy to hang around waiting on the chance that others will log in while we're there. It's understandable. In order to help I thought that we'd try using the Room again with some sort of UNOFFICIAL schedule in mind. Now understand that this is just a suggestion and if you happen to want to chat and it's not the suggested time, you can still use it whenever and for whatever you want. Remember, there are no rules inside the Chat Room except to be civil to each other. Perhaps we could establish the following times for members who want to chat... Plebe Related Chat Monday - Wednesday - Friday 10:00 PM Eastern Upper Class Parents Tuesday - Thursday 10:00 PM Eastern General "Open" Chat Saturday & Sunday 3:00 PM 7:00PM 10:00 PM Eastern The above is meant to be suggested times as to WHO should show up NOT WHAT should be talked about. The Chat room is NOT monitored and members may use it to discuss anything, Navy Related or not. It's up to those who participate. A couple of reminders on how the Chat Room operates. Use of the Chat Room is restricted to USNA-Net Members Only. So when you are inside the Chat Room , you are among friends. Once you provide the Password and sign in, you will enter the group discussion that is in progress at that time. You cannot go back to before the moment you entered to read what others said before you arrived. Others will know you arrived because your name will appear in the list on the right of the screen. Say hello if you want or wait and read a few minutes of conversation first before you jump into the fray. Remember that the Chat Room isn't instantaneous. It takes a moment to send the text to the other participants and then for them to type a response. Please be patient. You can type very long lines of text and THEN hit the Enter key to send your response. The space in the Chat Room where you type your messages is only a modest length. If you keep on typing without hitting the Enter Key, your message will automatically "wrap" to the next line on the screen when it is sent. Hit the ENTER Key ONLY to send your complete response If the room is too full, you may not be able to enter. Try again in a few minutes. If you get inside and there is someone you wish to speak to privately, you can initiate a Private Chat. Just follow the directions on the Help screen at the top of the Room. You'll get the hang of it. It's a lot like IM-ing. Enjoy. Just remember to say "Goodbye" when you leave. 4. That "Other" Sports List For all of the newcomers, I'd like to remind you that the Academy's Athletic Department operates a broadcast only Listserver for the dissemination of all sorts of information about USNA Sports News. It sends out at least three or four announcements each week during the "off" season and several each day during the peak season during the AC year. This is NOT to be confused with our USNA-Sports listserver which is open to member participation just like all of our other lists and provides our members with the ability to write back and forth about Sports stuff. To subscribe to this "Other" sports list, just send an email IN PLAIN TEXT FORMAT to subscribe-navysports-mids@maillist.usna.edu from the email address at which you wish to receive the postings. This "other" list is a great source of information and often contains in-depth interviews with the coaches and team members. It covers all sorts of sports information for those members whose Mids participate in everything from archery to wrestling. It's not just for Navy Football Fans. 5. What we are all about... I wanted to revisit a discussion I had a few months back. USNA-Net is an Advice and Support Network of Parents. That's all. Nothing more and nothing less. We're here to help other Parents with their problems and concerns. We're not here to share jokes or recipes. We're not here to find Roommates or fellow Company Parents. We're not here to discuss Academy Policy. And most of all, we're not here to Chat back and forth on the Lists. Before we take to the keyboard, we need to ask ourselves if what we are about to write is really something that should be addressed to the whole membership or is it just so much chatter or fluff. Now, I'm not talking about members who post their adventures or observations about their visits to the Yard or activities that most members would want to hear about. This part of our lists is valued by all of us who can't get to the yard often or ever. I AM talking about messages that should have been sent to only one member. I AM talking about "Are you out there" messages. I AM talking about messages that don't relate to USNA. Just remember that Chat belongs in the Chat room and we don't want to bother all 1,700+ members with too many "chatty" messages each day. If we do, too many members will tune us out and won't be there when the topics get heavy and we need all the help and advice we can get. (If you want to locate a specific member, write to either Sandi or me and we can look them up and pass your email address along to the person you want to contact. Chances are the parent you're looking for is not a member since we only have about 1 in 3 of all of the Parents out there as members. remember, we will never give out your membership information under any circumstances.) 6. Rule Reasons - Midshipman Privacy In every Newsletter we try to explain a little more about one of our Rules of Operation so that our members feel more comfortable using our services. Today I want to review what is probably our Most Important Rule - our Privacy Rule. It's fairly long and so I'll take it one section at a time. Please notice the use of quotes to signify the text of the actual rule. "Rule #5. Rights to Privacy - Information and/or the contents of email posted on any of our lists is private and must not be distributed to non-members under any circumstances. This is especially important regarding email address and other personal information about list members." While this part is pretty straight forward, it is probably the most violated of our Rules and the one that is the hardest to detect and prevent. A few members routinely forward messages, either in whole or in part, to non-members. This is ABSOLUTELY against our Rules. If someone wants to read our messages, let them join our Listservers. That way your Moderators can control those who have access to our correspondence. If you know of anyone who is routinely forwarding postings to non-members, I urge you to let us know so that we can put a stop to it. "- User Names and Passwords may not be shared with any non-member." Again, membership has it's privileges and only members should have access to our Archives, our Chat Room and our Classified Ads which are all password protected. "- Personal information regarding Midshipmen should not be broadcast without the permission of the individual Midshipman concerned. Midshipmen are adults and they have a right to privacy. - A Midshipman's and his/her family's right to privacy are paramount and should be considered prior to ANY reference in a message, especially, in the case of a death, serious medical or personal situation involving a Midshipman or his/her family." We can never discuss any Midshipman by name or otherwise give out information about a Mid on our lists without that Mid's permission - even your OWN Mid. Their Privacy is Paramount. - All parents should be aware that Listserver messages and information might inadvertently be shared with Midshipmen via email or telephone conversations to the Yard. While passing any Listserver messages back to Midshipmen is prohibited, each parent has the responsibility to not broadcast items IN THE FIRST PLACE that might have a negative impact on their (or any other) Midshipman." Just in case you forgot... YOUR MID IS NOT A MEMBER! Mids are NOT allowed to join our Listservers. They are NOT permitted to read or participate in our Listservers in ANY way. We discuss too many things which might prove to be embarrassing to a Mid or might influence how he/she is treated by other Midshipmen. Do you really want your Plebe's Detailer to know that he has a fear of spiders or used to run around in the buff when she was two. Assume that everything written to our lists WILL be passed to other Mids and you'll never have a problem with your Mid complaining about what YOU write to the lists. To those that feel that this is not an important Rule, I have this to say. In the two plus years that Sandi and I have been the Moderators for these lists, we have removed only a few members for Rules Violations. The largest percentage of those sent packing, however, were removed for violating THIS rule. When we do find a member in violation of this rule, there are NO WARNINGS, NO SECOND CHANCES, NO TEMPORARY SUSPENSIONS. You are removed immediately and permanently. We will not abide any member passing personal information about Mids or members to anyone outside our membership. Period. Now this is where common sense comes in. We don't want to prevent you from sharing information you gained from our lists with your Mid about "how to spit shine his shoes" or the address of a great link on the Internet that you know she would love to visit or when tickets go on sale, etc. This sort of thing is harmless and you should feel free to share it with your Mid. Just DON'T FORWARD ENTIRE MESSAGES with email addresses and everything else attached. "Cut and Paste" the information portion of the message ONLY so that you maintain the Privacy of our members and their Mids. Just remember... NEVER share private information about our Members or our Mids with ANYONE! Until next time... Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net Listservers Webmaster - www.USNA-Net.org *** USNA-NET post by: Mike Zets USNA-Net's services are funded by its members' generosity. Your support is needed now to fund operations for the next 6 months. =================================================================== https://www-secure.west-point.org/wporg/donate or mail donation to: WP-ORG, P.O. Box 2108, Abingdon, VA 24212-2108 =================================================================== Please specify NAVY on the donation form or your Check's Memo Line. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Thu Jun 7 07:35:01 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA12073 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 07:35:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <023401c0ef4e$a2f18a40$9219bfa8@sandi> From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: One Last Time... Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:37:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk To our dear Navy Parents... I hope that this will be the last plea which I have to make. We are at 91% of our goal with 295 Navy Donors having given something to this Fund Drive. We only ask that you give if you can and we certainly don't want to be a burden to anyone's personal finances but if you meant to send in something and have been putting it off, PLEASE send it in today. Stop what you're doing and write out that check or visit our on-line donation site before you forget to do it again. We need YOUR support. If you won't help, this service may not be here when you need us in the future. If we've helped you over the past six months... If we've been here when you needed support or encouragement... Or if we've just been here to remind you that you're not alone with your concerns and problems, then please repay some of that help and support with a donation of a few dollars to offset our operating costs for the next six months. I look at the numbers - 1,694 members total - and I know that there are at least another 100 or so families out there who can spare $10 or $20. It's not like that will break the bank. (By the way... If all of the AOL members out there would just follow my advice and dump AOL ($21.95 per month) for a local Internet Service Provider ($9.95 per month), you'd save at least $12 EACH MONTH! We could run this whole shee-bang for that. There are over 640 AOL members on our lists - times $12 per month comes out to over $92,000 per year. From what I can tell, you must really like spending those big bucks and reading all of those advertisements every time you log on.) Pardon me for getting carried away. Anyway... If you meant to send in a donation but have put it off, please don't wait any longer. You may donate on-line using our SECURE SERVER at https://www-secure.west-point.org/wporg/donate When using the On-Line Donation web site, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU SELECT "NAVY" AS THE AFFILIATION so that USNA-Net is properly credited for your donation. OR If you prefer to make your donation using a check, make it out to WP-ORG and mail via Regular US Mail to: WP-ORG (Designate NAVY on the memo line) PO Box 2108 Abingdon, VA 24212-2108 (All donations are 100% tax deductible and subject to matching funds from some employers.) ONE LAST THING... NAVY PARENTS have donated $11,460 to date. ARMY PARENTS have donated $10,735 !!! We're ahead of Army for the first time in any fund drive and you have to remember that they have about 300 more member families than we do. I'd love to KEEP the lead with a last minute surge of final donations from YOU to aid our NAVY family. Thanks for doing what you can... Go NAVY - Beat Army !!! Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net Listservers Webmaster - www.USNA-Net.org _____________________________________________________ WP-ORG gratefully recognizes Armed Forces Insurance (http://www.afi.org) for its continuing sponsorship. FD9 is the fourth consecutive fundraising drive receiving AFI support. *** USNA-NET post by: Mike Zets USNA-Net's services are funded by its members' generosity. Your support is needed now to fund operations for the next 6 months. =================================================================== https://www-secure.west-point.org/wporg/donate or mail donation to: WP-ORG, P.O. Box 2108, Abingdon, VA 24212-2108 =================================================================== Please specify NAVY on the donation form or your Check's Memo Line. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Fri Jun 8 11:33:41 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA18971 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:33:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <019201c0f039$1bc6f640$d019bfa8@sandi> From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: USNA-Net Newsletter - June 8, 2001 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:36:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk ================================================================ USNA-Net Newsletter June 8, 2001 ================================================================ In this issue... 1. USNA-Net Business Cards for Recruiting. 2. Navy is stomping Army ! 3. Finding a Local ISP 4. We're not the Naval Academy... 5. Leaving USNA-Plebe? Here's how. 6. Rule Reasons - No Religious References ================================================================ This Newsletter is sent to all members of our USNA-Net Listservers. It's published approximately three times each month and is intended to provide insight into our service, answers to Frequently Asked Questions, and Technical Assistance and Information to our membership. ================================================================ 1. USNA-Net Business Cards for Recruiting. As most of the Parents' Clubs around the country are having a local event (either a picnic or brunch or something) to meet and greet the incoming new '05 members, I'd like to remind everyone that you can find a "Printable" USNA-Net Business Card on our web site for your use in telling new members about us. Just print out a few cards, and pass them out to whoever you tell about USNA-Net. Go to our main web page on our site at www.USNA-Net.org and scroll down to the bottom of the main page. You'll find a link there entitled "Help us to help other parents. Click here to find out how." Click on that link and you'll be taken to a page with our Business Card on it. Either print out that page and cut out the card OR scroll down to the bottom of that page for links to a printable web page with four cards on it OR a Word Document that you can print out using your word processor. Just remember to tell EVERYONE you meet about USNA-Net including Upper Class Parents. It's FREE and you don't have to be a member of a local Parents' Club to join our lists. We've even adopted new, easier to remember Web Addresses .. www.USNA-Net.org OR www.USNANet.org to make it even easier to tell potential members about where to find us. Just remember the name of our Organization and you've remembered our web address... USNA-Net.Org 2. Navy is stomping Army ! Navy - $13,177.04 from 350 Donors Way to go NAVY! Army - $11,400.00 from 284 Donors As of this morning, our Navy Parents have pushed a little further ahead of the Army Parents in the fund raiser. Actually, we're stomping the heck out of them. Thanks to all for sending in those donations. It seems that the Army Parent Moderator is becoming rather embarrassed by the fact that Navy is ahead and pulling away. We've always given more than our share but this drive we're out donating the Army Parents and they have over 300 more parents on their lists from which to draw donations. Despite her challenge to her members to kick Navy booty they are taking a back seat to our Parents. To view the NAVY donations to date, click on http://lazarus.west-point.org/wporg/donate/report/1,2107,6,00.html Then to see the Army Parent Donations to date, click on the link in the middle of the page that says "Parent" - that's the Army Parents NOT Navy Parents. Our Navy Parents are all combined under the NAVY listings. To donate on-line visit https://www-secure.west-point.org/wporg/donate and be sure to specify NAVY under Affiliation. It's safe, SECURE and very easy to use. 3. Finding a Local ISP A number of you have asked for a little help in finding a local Internet Service Provider (ISP) in your area. Okay. Here's how... a. Local Newspapers usually feature some sort of Internet or Computer news and/or column once a week or so. Look for ISP's to advertise in that section of the paper on the day the paper runs the computer column. If not your local daily, then perhaps your Regional Weekly will feature something. b. Supermarket Tabloids are available in some areas around the county aimed at Computer Types and will be a storehouse of advertisements from the local ISPs. These tabloids are of the free variety usually located where the real estate people have their listings near the exit. c. Local YELLOW PAGES will have ISP's listed under "Internet." In Cleveland, we have three pages of display ads for local ISP's in our Yellow Pages with several display ads claiming $9.95 per month service. d. The really large book stores will usually have a copy of a soft bound book called "A Guide to Internet Service Providers" (or something like that). It's an inch thick and printed on recycled paper but it lists all of the ISP's across the country by telephone area code and gives tips on how to select between ISP's in your area. e. There is a web page (isn't there one for everything these days?) that discusses all of the do's and don't's of finding a local ISP. You'll find it at http://net.gurus.com/isp/. This site includes a link to http://thelist.internet.com/ which will list the local ISP's in your telephone area code and also help you find a host for your web site if you wish. 4. We're not the Naval Academy... Just a quick word to those of you who have grown really accustomed to the high level of support that you can get from USNA-Net. Sure we know a lot about the Naval Academy and what it means to be a parent of a Midshipman BUT please remember that we are NOT the Naval Academy. We can't answer specific questions about things that are specifically related to the Administration or Operations of the Academy. We can tell you what to expect at PPW but we can't tell you why your Mid has to stand watch at a particular time. We can help you understand Plebe Summer but we don't know if your Mid will have to have extra vaccinations upon arrival. We don't have a pipeline to Admissions so asking us why you haven't gotten this or that form is a hopeless cause. We don't know or set policy at the Academy. The Academy does. We're here to help and support as many parents in as many ways as possible but when it comes to Administrative Policy or technicalities, we just don't know. Your best bet is to HAVE YOUR MID DEAL WITH THE SITUATION! As a parent, you are very peripheral to all of the happenings at the Yard. As a Midshipmen, it is their responsibility to deal with everything related to their particular situation. You have to stop trying to do stuff for them. 5. Leaving USNA-Plebe? Here's how. For all of our Upper Class parents who have been a member of USNA-Plebe and now wish to be removed from THAT list, please send a PLAIN TEXT message to . No Subject. In the body of the message type "unsubscribe usna-plebe" (without the quotes). DO NOT TYPE ANYTHING ELSE! That's all that is needed. Anything more messes it up. This message must come from the exact email address under which you are subscribed. That's all there is to it and you'll save Sandi and me a whole lot time and trouble if you do this yourself. We hope that lots of '04 Parents will stick around in the same way the '03 Parents did for you at this time last year. Mentoring '05's is a great morale booster for those Plebes-No-More '04 Parents out there. Without Upper Class Parents on the Plebe list, it will be the blind leading the blind and that's NOT what USNA-Net is all about. 6. Rule Reasons - No Religious References For some of our members making Religious References in their postings to the lists is as second nature as breathing. We have to remember, however, that our membership crosses over lots of ethnic and religious boundaries. We are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and many others. What is certain and natural to some is foreign and offensive to others. Where do we draw the line? What is Okay? We've found over the years that we have the best success with a hard and fast rule that NO religious references are permitted, not even in the most casual manner. Can you mention attending a service at the Chapel? Yes but you shouldn't go into detail about the sermon or how inspired you were to put your faith in "-----" after the service. Was the Choir inspiring? Tell everyone but don't quote scripture to our lists. We ask that you use sound judgment and think about your postings before you send them. Basically, Sandi and I try very hard to maintain a SECULAR Listservice where members of any faith (or none at all) may find help and support through the friendship of other parents. A zero tolerance policy has been adopted on religious references as well as profanity, discriminatory and sexual references. I hope this helps all of us to understand the Reason behind the Rule. Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net Listservers Webmaster - www.USNA-Net.org *** USNA-NET post by: Mike Zets USNA-Net's services are funded by its members' generosity. Your support is needed now to fund operations for the next 6 months. =================================================================== https://www-secure.west-point.org/wporg/donate or mail donation to: WP-ORG, P.O. Box 2108, Abingdon, VA 24212-2108 =================================================================== Please specify NAVY on the donation form or your Check's Memo Line. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Mon Jun 11 19:17:02 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA24319 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:17:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <02bf01c0f2d5$57a71f20$8e19bfa8@sandi> From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Last Chance to BEAT ARMY! Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:19:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk To all, NAVY PARENTS have donated $14, 797.04 to date. ARMY PARENTS have donated $14,710 !!! Okay! I vowed that I wouldn't get sucked into a competition between Navy Parents and Army Parents during this fund drive but I've been heckled and even taunted into getting you to donate more than the 2,000+ Army Families that also belong to WP-ORG. The last straw came from Dian Welle who was the former Army Parents Moderator until recently. She said that she would play Navy Blue and Gold on her Army web site if Navy parents donated more than her Army Parents and THEN proceeded to have the auditors go through and find every dollar that even might have been donated by an Army Parent and put it into the Army pile. We were leading the race a week ago (before the Manipulation) by over $2,000. After the manipulation, the lead actually went to Army Parents by a big slug. But lo and behold, your checks have just kept coming in. We now lead Army AGAIN but by a scant $87.00 as of this moment. The drive is nearly over since we are at 97.77% of our goal and I just wouldn't want that slim lead to evaporate in the last day or two. Please!!! Help me hang on to NAVY PRIDE. Go to the web site and donate a few bucks on-line if you haven't sent anything in this time. We are ahead but I don't ever want to loose anything to ARMY if I can help it. I don't just want to win. I want to win BIG!!! Anyway... If you meant to send in a donation but have put it off, please don't wait any longer. You may donate on-line using our SECURE SERVER at https://www-secure.west-point.org/wporg/donate When using the On-Line Donation web site, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU SELECT "NAVY" AS THE AFFILIATION so that USNA-Net is properly credited for your donation. OR If you prefer to make your donation using a check, make it out to WP-ORG and mail via Regular US Mail to: WP-ORG (Designate NAVY on the memo line) PO Box 2108 Abingdon, VA 24212-2108 Go NAVY - Beat Army !!! Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net Listservers Webmaster - www.USNA-Net.org _____________________________________________________ WP-ORG gratefully recognizes Armed Forces Insurance (http://www.afi.org) for its continuing sponsorship. FD9 is the fourth consecutive fundraising drive receiving AFI support. *** USNA-NET post by: Mike Zets USNA-Net's services are funded by its members' generosity. Your support is needed now to fund operations for the next 6 months. =================================================================== https://www-secure.west-point.org/wporg/donate or mail donation to: WP-ORG, P.O. Box 2108, Abingdon, VA 24212-2108 =================================================================== Please specify NAVY on the donation form or your Check's Memo Line. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Mon Jun 11 22:39:33 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA21334 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:39:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <046d01c0f2f1$8e78dea0$8e19bfa8@sandi> From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: It's over. Navy Parents WIN! Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:41:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk As a matter of fact... We all win. Army Parents - Navy Parents - all of us. FD9 is over. WP-ORG has reached its goal and the tally of donations as the finish line came and went this evening was... ARMY Parents $14,805.00 NAVY Parents $15,317.04 Thanks to all who made this Fund Drive such a huge success. Each and every one of you should feel very proud to have participated. We couldn't have done it without you. It's times like this when Sandi and I are only too glad to be part of this fine group of Navy Parents. I'm am truly proud of you all for your help. This is what being a Navy Parent is all about.... Helping each other when help is needed. You've all earned an extra Weekend this coming semester for a job well done in this gentle victory over our friends at Army. :>) Go NAVY!! PARENTS RULE !! Mike and Sandi *** USNA-NET post by: Mike Zets USNA-Net's services are funded by its members' generosity. Your support is needed now to fund operations for the next 6 months. =================================================================== https://www-secure.west-point.org/wporg/donate or mail donation to: WP-ORG, P.O. Box 2108, Abingdon, VA 24212-2108 =================================================================== Please specify NAVY on the donation form or your Check's Memo Line. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Tue Jun 12 04:18:53 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA27815 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:18:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00df01c0f321$0cee7b80$a719bfa8@sandi> From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Fw: Good Game! Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:21:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk Ladies and Gentlemen, Please rise while the Army Parents of WP-ORG play Navy Blue and Gold on THEIR web site... Below is their short but oh so sweet letter of acknowledgment of their defeat. Thanks again to all who contributed. We couldn't have done it without every single one of you. Go Navy! Mike and Sandi Zets ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dian Welle" To: "parent-forum@west-point.org" Cc: "FD9 Committee" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:50 AM Subject: fd9: Good Game! > > Well, we gave it our all, and in the last quarter the Navy Parents > pulled off a Touchdown in the Army/Navy Parent WP-ORG fundraiser. > > ARMY Parents $14,805.00 > NAVY Parents $15,317.04 > > In the spirit of good sportsmanship, I offer the following.. > http://www.west-point.org/parent/wpp-net/navywins.html > > GO ARMY! > Dian > > > *** FD9 post by: WELLE Dian *** USNA-NET post by: Mike Zets USNA-Net's services are funded by its members' generosity. Your support is needed now to fund operations for the next 6 months. =================================================================== https://www-secure.west-point.org/wporg/donate or mail donation to: WP-ORG, P.O. Box 2108, Abingdon, VA 24212-2108 =================================================================== Please specify NAVY on the donation form or your Check's Memo Line. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Fri Jun 22 17:17:18 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA18137 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:17:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000701c0fb69$876bca20$aa19bfa8@sandi> From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Saturday OUTAGE Announcement Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:19:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Precedence: bulk To All, Just so you don't panic, we will be doing some hardware and software upgrades to our Host Computers which will interrupt our service tomorrow. ================================================== Expect protracted Outages on Saturday, June 23rd, 2001 ================================================== beginning at 1300 Hrs CST and continuing into early AM Sunday. ================================================== These outages will affect our www.USNA-Net.org Web Site AND all email to and from our Listservers at USNA-Family, USNA-Plebe and USNA-Sports. Please be patient and don't panic if your email is returned or you temporarily find our web site is not available. Try back later or wait until Sunday. Go Navy - Beat Army !!! Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator - USNA-Net Listservers Webmaster - www.USNA-Net.org *** USNA-NET post by: Mike Zets ============================================================ This Message is PRIVATE it is intended for our MEMBERS ONLY! It may not be forwarded to, read by or shared with ANY non-member under any circumstances - ESPECIALLY MIDSHIPMEN. Violators will be banned from all of our Listservers ! ============================================================= USNA-Net is a private non-profit organization supporting Parents of Midshipmen at the United States Naval Acacemy. Share the experience with other parents. Have them visit our web site at www.USNA-Net.org and subscribe today! It's FREE! =============================================================