~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Mon Jul 9 11:29:54 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA17544 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:29:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <034301c10894$980aa120$a019bfa8@sandi> From: "Sandi Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: A warning From your Moderator Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:31:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk The listing of COMMERCIAL websites on any of our Lists is forbidden. Failure to adhere to this rule will result in your removal from the lists. Sandi Zets Westlake, OH (jsandi@mail.com) Moderator: USNA-Net Webmaster: www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: Sandi Zets ============================================================ This Message is PRIVATE it is intended for our MEMBERS ONLY! It may not be forwarded to, read by or shared with ANY non-member under any circumstances - ESPECIALLY MIDSHIPMEN. Violators will be banned from all of our Listservers ! ============================================================= USNA-Net is a private non-profit organization supporting Parents of Midshipmen at the United States Naval Acacemy. Share the experience with other parents. Have them visit our web site at www.USNA-Net.org and subscribe today! It's FREE! ============================================================= ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Wed Jul 11 18:18:30 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA10109 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:18:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000701c10a60$45b34800$651abfa8@sandi> From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: USNA-Net Newsletter - 7/11/01 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:21:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Precedence: bulk ================================================================ USNA-Net Newsletter 7/11/01 ================================================================ In this issue... 1. What's New - Big Changes in the Wind. 2. "Are you out there" messages are a No-No 3. Phone Schedule for the FIRST CALL. 4. We Remove Privacy Violators without Warning. 5. Message traffic to slow down soon. ================================================================ This Newsletter is sent to all members of our USNA-Net Listservers. It is published approximately three times each month and is intended to provide insight into our service, answers to Frequently Asked Questions, and Technical Assistance and Information to our membership. ================================================================ 1. What's New - Big Changes in the Wind. For those of you who have been having problems with Rich Text Format, we have GREAT NEWS. In about two months, we will have a fix for the problem that will make it possible for any of our members to send email to our lists in ANY format without having to set anything or use any special program or an old version of AOL. Now don't start just yet! I said in about two months. We should have everything set and tested by the middle of September. Please be patient until then and continue to send in PLAIN TEXT to our lists. We'll let you know when it is possible to forget about RTF constraints. Along with this change, we are planning to make other minor changes from your point of view as a member but huge from our point of view as Moderators. We'll fill in the blanks and let you know all about it before we turn the switch. 2. Are you out there messages are a No-No There are a whole lot of new members out there who want to meet others in their Plebe's same Company , the families of your Mid's roommates or others in your own home town or area, etc. There are right ways and wrong ways to do that. The wrong way is to write a note that says something like... WRONG - "Are there any other 10th Company Parents out there?" WRONG - "Does anyone else live near Cedar Rapids?" The correct way to do this is to properly sign your email. DON'T make other members guess about who you are. Sign every email like this... Joan Smith Jack - 05 10th Cedar Rapids, IA This way everyone will know that you are Joan and that your Mid, named Jack, is in the 10th Company and is a member of the Class of '05. See how easy that is? Besides a whole lot of you are subscribed as Joan and Bill Smith. You know - Mr. & Mrs. as one subscription. So if YOU don't write "Joan Smith" at the bottom of YOUR email, the system will only add your standard signature line as "Joan and Bill Smith" and no one will be able to tell if it was Joan OR Bill who sent the message. A whole lot of Fathers write to these lists, so never assume it is always the Mom. Remember that we're signing up new members EVERY day at this time of year. At the rate of about 50 per day it seems. So even if you send that "Are you out there" message today, the parents right down the street may sign up tomorrow and you'll never know it. By signing your email as shown above ,anyone who wants to contact you can AND we won't have literally hundreds of these messages clogging up our inboxes every day. Please be considerate of all of the other members who don't live down the street or are not your Mid's roommate' parents. Most of us aren't 3. Phone Schedule for the FIRST CALL. For those of you who missed it or misplaced it, here is yet another copy of the phone call schedule taken from the USNA web site. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DATE=======DAY=======TIME===COMPANY 07/14/2001 SATURDAY 0900-0945 H, I 07/14/2001 SATURDAY 1000-1045 E, P 07/14/2001 SATURDAY 1100-1145 B, D 07/14/2001 SATURDAY 1300-1345 F 07/14/2001 SATURDAY 1500-1545 A 07/15/2001 SUNDAY 1300-1345 C, G, K 07/15/2001 SUNDAY 1400-1445 L, M, N, O ALL TIMES ARE EASTERN DAYLIGHT TIME (EDT) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Remember that your Plebe may call before the specified time or later OR even the next day if he has something else which conflicts with making the call at the prescribed time. Do not panic if the phone does not ring at exactly the correct time and DO remember to remain UPBEAT during the call. If you plan on recording your Mid's call, PRACTICE the procedure on another incoming BEFORE the actual call. Too many nervous fingers have flubbed up and disconnected the call before it even started. Don't "think" you know how to do this. Practice it until you can do it in the dark. Don't forget that collect calls are automated and there is no real operator asking if you will accept the charges. A recording machine might just send an error message or inappropriate pre-recorded message to the automated inquiry and "refuse" the charges before you can say yes to them. This actually happened to a parent last summer. Can you imagine the Plebe's reaction when his home phone said NO when asked if the charges would be accepted. PRACTICE the exact method you will use BEFORE the call comes from your Mid. 4. We Remove Privacy Violators. No Warnings. Well, it happened again and I thought I'd let the rest of the list in on what happened. No names of course but we were forced to remove another member for allowing a non-member to have direct access to our lists. He allowed his daughter (the Mid's sister) to read all of our messages and to even send a message to one of our lists. The daughter was NOT a member of the lists. Despite the fact that every email in our system for months has a footer on it which warns members not to distribute ANY email to non-members especially NOT to Midshipmen, this member had allowed the Mid's sister (who was not eligible for membership because of her age) to read all of our messages and to even send in a question to our lists. OUR LISTS ARE FOR MEMBERS ONLY ! Period. The offending member was removed from our lists within five minutes of us finding out about the violation and will never be allowed to return. Sandi and I shoot first and ask questions later. Your Privacy and the privacy of the communications on all of our lists is paramount to the ability of our service to provide the advice and support needed so much by our membership. If any non-member is allowed to access these lists or read any of our email, it is a MAJOR violation of everyone's privacy. These email messages contain sensitive information about ourselves, our email addresses and our Mid's activities. None of this is anyone's business but ours. Non-members are not governed by our Rules and cannot be punished for irresponsible actions or careless gossip. It is the responsibility of every member to keep our message traffic private. When it comes to Privacy, there are no warnings and no second chances. Note: This does not apply to our web site. Everyone is allowed to visit and to read everything there EXCEPT for the Members Only areas - Our Archives, Our Classifieds and Our Chat Room. These areas are also protected by passwords and our Privacy Policy. Otherwise everything on the site may be shared with anyone who wants to see what's there including the Parents Handbook, all of the photos, wallpapers and books for recommended reading, etc. 5. Message traffic to slow down soon. I took a long look at the archives with an eye toward determining the exact volume of message traffic for the past three years. Historically, JULY is our busiest month for messages on all lists. The cycle begins in either December or January with the fewest number of messages and then builds through the spring and into Plebe Summer. We will hit a new record this month and probably exceed 3.2Mb of messages for July on all lists combined. Last year we had 2.7Mb of messages in July but we had a whole lot fewer Plebe parents signed up. August is the next busiest month but then traffic falls off sharply in September and October especially on the Plebe list with a little increased activity on the Family list in anticipation of the Army Navy game and because of Football discussions in general on the Sports list. So be patient with the message volume, it will slow down in the coming months. We're only this talkative during the dog days of summer. Thanks for listening. If you have any questions please write directly to me at Mike Zets Westlake, OH Ensign Michael Stoker - USS Russell DDG 59 - Class of '00 10th mzets@mail.com Moderator - USNA-Net Listservers Webmaster - www.USNA-Net.org *** USNA-NET post by: Mike Zets ============================================================ This Message is PRIVATE it is intended for our MEMBERS ONLY! It may not be forwarded to, read by or shared with ANY non-member under any circumstances - ESPECIALLY MIDSHIPMEN. Violators will be banned from all of our Listservers ! ============================================================= USNA-Net is a private non-profit organization supporting Parents of Midshipmen at the United States Naval Acacemy. Share the experience with other parents. Have them visit our web site at www.USNA-Net.org and subscribe today! It's FREE! ============================================================= ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Thu Jul 12 11:07:17 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA19277 for usna-net-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:07:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <010001c10aec$ef1b7c00$cc5cb23f@sandi> From: "Sandi Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Clarification...PLEASE read!! Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:08:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk We received this note from a member: <<>> Now, here's the deal. You CANNOT FORWARD messages to non-members, and this includes your Mid. By forwarding, any private information contained in the email stays with the email. The sender's name, email address, Mid's name...etc are ALL included in every post. We have no problem with you cutting and pasting (or completely re-writing) a few lines of information received from a post and sending it to Aunt Mary, like YP movements, the special dinner that the Mids were served, pranks during Army/Navy week...that sort of thing. AND, we have no problem with you sending along information that might be of interest to your Mid - like instructions on how to spit shine his shoes, or going to the USO in New York, or how to get to DC or Baltimore. The general information passed on by members of our lists are NOT secrets. BUT - and this is a big one... If a member writes in about a Mid having problems, or about something personal about themselves or their Mid (Mom has been sleeping in their Plebe's bed since he left for I-Day, for example) DO NOT, under any circumstances - pass this information along to ANYONE - and ESPECIALLY to your Mid!!! Personal information shared with our list members IS PRIVATE, and unless you have THAT member's permission to forward their post - YOU CAN"T DO IT!!! It is an inexcusable invasion of their privacy. Period. Too much harm can come from passing along sensitive information. Would YOU want your Plebe's Detailers, or his Squad Leader to know that YOUR son always slept with a stuffed bear? This is PERSONAL, PRIVATE information. While it may be necessary to share some of this information when seeking advice and support, the membership must remember that sensitive information can never be shared with non-members. You see, there is a "duality" of missions with USNA-Net. Support and Information. The "Information" aspect is just that - roommates sharing a printer, advice on cleaning their brass, links of interest, information concerning buying tickets... These things are GENERAL information that you or your Mid could find someplace else, if you looked for it. This sort of information is perfectly okay to pass along, to anyone - as long as our member's personal information (their name, email address, etc.) is not FORWARDED with the information. The "Support" aspect includes personal, private, and possibly embarrassing or damaging information that should NEVER be shared or passed on to a non-member We all owe it to each other to protect our sons/daughters and our fellow members from any kind of harassment or embarrassment. Sharing THIS kind of information can easily cause both. Sharing THIS kind of information will get you removed from out lists. So, as with all things - there is a definite black and white on this - but there are also shades of gray. AND, it is the job of your Moderators to see that no one gets hurt by the unthinking, careless, callous and/or irresponsible forwarding of posts to others. We have the final word on this. I hope this clears up the confusion. None of this is meant to discourage you from using our lists, or sharing with us, every day. It's meant to explain our rule on privacy. Sandi Zets Westlake, OH (jsandi@mail.com) Moderator: USNA-Net Webmaster: www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: Sandi Zets ============================================================ This Message is PRIVATE it is intended for our MEMBERS ONLY! It may not be forwarded to, read by or shared with ANY non-member under any circumstances - ESPECIALLY MIDSHIPMEN. Violators will be banned from all of our Listservers ! ============================================================= USNA-Net is a private non-profit organization supporting Parents of Midshipmen at the United States Naval Acacemy. Share the experience with other parents. Have them visit our web site at www.USNA-Net.org and subscribe today! It's FREE! ============================================================= ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Mon Jul 16 20:43:41 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA13662 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:43:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <008101c10e62$1af60840$b119bfa8@sandi> From: "Sandi Zets" To: Subject: usna-net: More Plebe Photos Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 21:45:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk It's taken awhile for me to get it done...but - if you are interested - there are nearly 70 NEW photos of I-Day and Plebe Summer. There are photos from four different photographers: if you see your plebe and would be interested in a copy, you will need to contact the photographer directly. Just click on the names after their photos to open an email addressed to them. First, Jerry Cook took some terrific shots on I-Day, with lots of close-up shots of plenty of faces. Don't pass up any of these...you may just see your Plebe! Thanks Jerry, for sending me these!! Next, Jackie and Pete DiFranco shared some of their personal I-Day shots with me. I have chosen four that not only show them with their son and his sister, but a couple of others that also show other plebes. Thanks for sharing these with us! Next, Mike is not the only one with a camera. Although I did not get into Alumni Hall, like he did...I managed to take a few shots that I think show the flavor of the morning. My shots start with families gathering outside Alumni Hall saying their farewells (is that the Commandant I see there?) - go to the rear of Alumni Hall where parents were waiting to catch a glimpse of their Mid - you see one tossing his gear in the bed of one of the big stake-body trucks - you can see the Academy busses lined up to take the plebes from Alumni Hall to Bancroft - and finally, a shot through the window of a bus of two plebes - eyes forward - as they leave Alumni Hall and proceed to Bancroft. Not award winners, and not many faces...but a different perspective. Next, Joyce Hoffer supplied thirty photos with tons of plebes and lots of faces!! These are panoramic sized photos so you will see more plebes in every one. She has plenty of faces before, during and after the Induction Ceremony. I always enjoy Joyce's photos and she even sent some photos taken last year that I thought I would add at the end of this page. All these plebe photos!! I decided that all you plebe parents should have something to look forward to. One is a terrific photo of the fireworks from last year's Ring Dance, the second is a shot of an incredibly beautiful USNA Class Ring - you should not miss this - and the third is the traditional photo taken on the steps of Preble Hall each year after Herndon of the Women's Novice (Plebe '04) Crew Team. Thanks, Joyce, for sharing these great shots! And, Finally, Dev Mahadevan was on the Yard on July 1st to see her '02 daughter. While she was there, she caught several groups of plebes doing what plebes do during the summer - mostly going from one place to another!! Lots of plebes, lots of faces, lots of chances to see your Plebe! Thanks Dev for sharing with us!! Go to the USNA-Net Website www.usna-net.org and click onto "Photo Gallery" in the menu items. On the Photo Gallery page, look directly under the "Roller coaster" quote for "I-Day (pt.2)/Plebe Summer Photos" Enjoy!! Sandi *** USNA-NET post by: Sandi Zets ============================================================ This Message is PRIVATE it is intended for our MEMBERS ONLY! It may not be forwarded to, read by or shared with ANY non-member under any circumstances - ESPECIALLY MIDSHIPMEN. Violators will be banned from all of our Listservers ! ============================================================= USNA-Net is a private non-profit organization supporting Parents of Midshipmen at the United States Naval Acacemy. Share the experience with other parents. Have them visit our web site at www.USNA-Net.org and subscribe today! It's FREE! ============================================================= ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Wed Jul 18 19:38:36 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA06262 for usna-net-outgoing; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:38:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <08e201c10fea$c02b1f60$a11abfa8@sandi> From: "Sandi Zets" To: Subject: usna-net: Countdown Clocks... Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:35:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk TWO THINGS... FIRST: We got a note from a Plebe Parent today that suggested an idea that we liked. She said that it would be kinda nice to be able to see not only how long it is to PPW, but to also see how long it has been since I-Day. Soooo, if you take a look at the Main page of the USNA-Net site: www.usna-net.org you will see TWO countdown clocks - one that shows (in minus days, hours and minutes) the time since I-Day, and the other that shows the time until PPW. SECOND: I have added new countdown clocks to the "Countdown Clocks" page on the website - accessed from the menu items. ALL classes, from Plebe to Firstie, can see how long it will be until their Commissioning. From 309 days for the Class of 2002 to 1408 days for the Class of 2005. Something more to look forward to!! :>) Sandi Zets Westlake, OH (jsandi@mail.com) Moderator: USNA-Net Webmaster: www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: Sandi Zets ============================================================ This Message is PRIVATE it is intended for our MEMBERS ONLY! It may not be forwarded to, read by or shared with ANY non-member under any circumstances - ESPECIALLY MIDSHIPMEN. Violators will be banned from all of our Listservers ! ============================================================= USNA-Net is a private non-profit organization supporting Parents of Midshipmen at the United States Naval Acacemy. Share the experience with other parents. Have them visit our web site at www.USNA-Net.org and subscribe today! It's FREE! ============================================================= ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Fri Jul 20 21:05:19 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA04088 for usna-net-outgoing; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:05:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <0cea01c11187$f3deb300$5e5cb23f@sandi> From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: STOP ! Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:53:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk To all Members of USNA-Net... These lists are NOT a mechanism for change at the Academy. Calls to Action are Forbidden. WE DO NOT SANCTION ANY MEMBER ATTEMPTING TO INTERFER WITH ACADEMY POLICY. There will be no discussions of Liberty Policy on these lists. Members who do not observe this Rule will be removed from this Network. Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator for USNA-Net Listservers Webmaster - www.USNA-Net.org *** USNA-NET post by: Mike Zets ============================================================ This Message is PRIVATE it is intended for our MEMBERS ONLY! It may not be forwarded to, read by or shared with ANY non-member under any circumstances - ESPECIALLY MIDSHIPMEN. Violators will be banned from all of our Listservers ! ============================================================= USNA-Net is a private non-profit organization supporting Parents of Midshipmen at the United States Naval Acacemy. Share the experience with other parents. Have them visit our web site at www.USNA-Net.org and subscribe today! It's FREE! ============================================================= ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Sat Jul 21 10:43:43 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA12022 for usna-net-outgoing; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 10:43:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <075101c111fc$0a371f60$301abfa8@sandi> From: "Sandi Zets" To: Subject: usna-net: Addition to the Family Interests page... Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 11:44:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk To all, Yesterday I received two notes from two different parents (among all the other email...). One asked me if it would be okay to send a lengthy inspirational quote to the lists. Because of the nature of these quotes - one may be appropriate and another not - there is a rule against posting such things. I explained that she could not send her quote to the list. The second was from a Plebe father, Keith Thurston, who shared with me a poem that he had written about I-Day. He knew that our List Rules prohibit sending poetry to the lists. Even good poetry is NOT allowed on our Lists, and we all know that all poetry is not "good" poetry. He sent it to me after reading, on Mike's and my personal website, some of the poetry that Mike has written. He thought I might like his work. I DID !! So I got his permission to create a webpage of his poem which I have loaded to the USNA-Net Website. It is called "Last Gaze" and I think it is a wonderful addition to our "Family Interests" page. Take a minute to read this, and if you like it, you can send Keith a note by clicking onto his name at the end of the poem. Talent should always be encouraged, whether in our Mids or in ourselves!! :>) You can access his poem by going to the USNA-Net website: www.usna-net.org and clicking onto "Family Interests" from the menu items. His poem is the first one in the list of items on this page. After you have read the poem, you might want to explore the other 19 items on this page. There are other poems, there are essays - by Mids, by parents, by one who left the Academy, even a page called "The Fourth Class System," written by a West Point grad who explains just how important the Plebe training is and why something that made NO sense at the time, made perfect sense once he was involved in conflict. You will also find Inspirational quotes - I sent one a day to my son during his plebe summer - I don't know if it helped him, but it helped me! And don't miss the Plebe Humor page! There's a lot of good "stuff" there, and I am glad to add this emotional, well written poem. Thanks, Keith! Sandi Zets Westlake, OH (jsandi@mail.com) Moderator: USNA-Net Webmaster: www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: Sandi Zets ============================================================ This Message is PRIVATE it is intended for our MEMBERS ONLY! It may not be forwarded to, read by or shared with ANY non-member under any circumstances - ESPECIALLY MIDSHIPMEN. Violators will be banned from all of our Listservers ! ============================================================= USNA-Net is a private non-profit organization supporting Parents of Midshipmen at the United States Naval Acacemy. Share the experience with other parents. Have them visit our web site at www.USNA-Net.org and subscribe today! It's FREE! ============================================================= ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Mon Jul 23 12:09:25 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA03794 for usna-net-outgoing; Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:09:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <0b9801c1139a$3d667260$4e1abfa8@sandi> From: "Sandi Zets" To: Subject: usna-net: Chat Room... Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:09:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk For those of you who have been asking about the Chat Room and why there is never anyone there when you enter... Mike has put up some suggested times for you to go to there. He has placed them on the Chat Room page - the first page you go to when you click on the Chat Room Link from the Menu items on the main page of the USNA-Net site. These are suggestions only - you can go in any time and discuss anything. You know, all those things you CAN'T mention on the lists are fair game in the Chatroom - only rule is, you have to be civil. We do not moderate, nor do we save, in any fashion, what is posted there. Once it is off the screen it is gone forever. You can't even print what is on the screen for further reference, like you can with IMing. So, if you are interested, take a look. Go anytime you wish, and if no one is there, just try another time. Mike and I set up this room as a service, and we WANT you to feel free use it. Sandi Zets Westlake, OH (jsandi@mail.com) Moderator: USNA-Net Webmaster: www.navy-usna.org *** USNA-NET post by: Sandi Zets ============================================================ This Message is PRIVATE it is intended for our MEMBERS ONLY! It may not be forwarded to, read by or shared with ANY non-member under any circumstances - ESPECIALLY MIDSHIPMEN. Violators will be banned from all of our Listservers ! ============================================================= USNA-Net is a private non-profit organization supporting Parents of Midshipmen at the United States Naval Acacemy. Share the experience with other parents. Have them visit our web site at www.USNA-Net.org and subscribe today! It's FREE! ============================================================= ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Tue Jul 24 16:51:26 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA21202 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:51:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <118c01c1148a$989db800$8f5cb23f@sandi> From: "Sandi Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: Offer of help for injured plebes/midshipmen Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:50:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk I have been asked to forward this to you all. What wonderful and caring parents we have on our Lists!!! Thank you, Barbara, for your most generous offer!! Sandi ------------Original Message ------------------------- I am an active duty Navy pediatrician stationed at the National Naval Medical Center (NNMC) in Bethesda, MD. I have read on the usna-network lists, parent's concerns about their seriously injured or ill plebes/midshipmen. My daughter is in the Class of 2005. While I do not have the time to go out to the Medical Clinic on the grounds of USNA and see patients there (or check on the status of x-rays and lab studies), if any plebes or midshipmen are hospitalized here at the National Naval Medical Center (where they are referred for surgery, serious illness, or subspecialty evaluations), I would be happy to offer my support services. I would not usurp the role of their primary physician or medical consultant, but rather, I can visit your daughter or son and let them know that there is someone here who cares about them when their families are too far away to visit, relay messages to and from them, bring them essential items they might need while in the hospital, mail their letters to you, etc. I do travel a great deal in my present job, but when in town, I would be happy to help out and be a surrogate mom when real mom and sponsor mom can't be there. I can only imagine how difficult it would be to have a child hospitalized hundreds or thousands of miles away and not be able to be there in person. I also want to reassure you that NNMC is the "Flagship of Navy Medicine". Both this hospital and the clinic at Annapolis are staffed with outstanding health care providers who will provide excellent medical care to your mids. I have been in Navy medicine for 28 years and have found military medical personnel to be professional, caring, bright, and compassionate. Your kids are in good hands. If a hospitalization here at NNMC arises, I can be reached via my office phone or through my office email address, listed below. Additionally, I have had the pleasure of meeting some of the firsties who are here at NNMC on summer rotations learning about medical careers. They have been wonderful -- polite, enthusiastic, bright, and full of thoughtful questions. The future of Navy medicine looks bright! Barbara Craig, MD Fellow, American Academy of Pediatrics CAPT, MC, USN Director, Armed Forces Center for Child Protection National Naval Medical Center 8901 Wisconsin Avenue Bethesda, MD 20889-5600 1-(301)-295-5648 BRCraig@bethesda.med.navy.mil Samantha 05 C/5 Germantown, MD *** USNA-NET post by: Sandi Zets ============================================================ This Message is PRIVATE it is intended for our MEMBERS ONLY! It may not be forwarded to, read by or shared with ANY non-member under any circumstances - ESPECIALLY MIDSHIPMEN. Violators will be banned from all of our Listservers ! ============================================================= USNA-Net is a private non-profit organization supporting Parents of Midshipmen at the United States Naval Acacemy. Share the experience with other parents. Have them visit our web site at www.USNA-Net.org and subscribe today! It's FREE! ============================================================= ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. From usna-net-owner@westpoint.west-point.org Tue Jul 31 20:54:34 2001 Received: (from root@localhost) by westpoint.west-point.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA17512 for usna-net-outgoing; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:54:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00dc01c11a2d$745a25c0$f51abfa8@sandi> From: "Mike Zets" To: "" Subject: usna-net: PLEASE PRINT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE... Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:58:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Precedence: bulk To All... Effective immediately the User Name and Password have changed... User Name: brigade Password: bancroft (all lowercase) PLEASE PRINT THIS OUT AND KEEP IT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. These are necessary to access the Chat Room, the Archives and the Classified Ads. Mike Zets Westlake, OH mzets@mail.com Moderator - USNA-Net Listservers Webmaster - www.USNA-Net.org *** USNA-NET post by: Mike Zets ============================================================ This Message is PRIVATE it is intended for our MEMBERS ONLY! It may not be forwarded to, read by or shared with ANY non-member under any circumstances - ESPECIALLY MIDSHIPMEN. Violators will be banned from all of our Listservers ! ============================================================= USNA-Net is a private non-profit organization supporting Parents of Midshipmen at the United States Naval Acacemy. Share the experience with other parents. Have them visit our web site at www.USNA-Net.org and subscribe today! It's FREE! =============================================================